View Full Version : Wanted-Chester Stiles-Video Taped rape of 3 yr old child! NV
christine2448
09-29-2007, 01:51 AM
Chester Arthur Stiles was named a suspect in the case involving the videotaped sexual assault of a girl now known as Madison.
Currently seven-years-old, cops say Madison was only three-years-old when the video was made.
Websleuthers worked on this case from day 1, see here
Police Look for Girl/man in sex tape:
Thread 1 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53845)
Thread 2 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53919)
Thread 3 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53948)
Thread 4 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53989)
Thread 5 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54016)
In the last press conf. Det B said
WHEREVER HE IS, HE NEEDS TO BE FOUND.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/STILES2.jpghttp://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/STILES.jpg
LTUlegal
09-29-2007, 01:54 AM
wow, thank you, Christine, for compiling all five other threads into this one!
Bravo!
I'm still thinking of Madison and truly hoping that she is REALLY okay.
SuziQ
09-29-2007, 01:55 AM
Reannan, I don't know if you missed the answer to your question on the SO registry. But Stiles had not yet been convicted of a sex crime.
Thanks Christine for the new thread!
Ok folks, I'm gonna meander over to Crimeblog and see what's up, then go to bed. I think we'll all sleep better tonight.
JanetElaine
09-29-2007, 01:57 AM
Thanks Christine! Let's bring this POS' face all over creation so he will be caught shortly.
Hope you don't mind me adding that he is considered armed and dangerous.
Someone give Dog a dollar so he can go get this s.o.b.!
christine2448
09-29-2007, 02:03 AM
----- Original Message ----- From: "Detective David Boruchowitz" <dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000168/!x-usc:mailto:dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us)>
To: <christine@lightingthewayhome.orgSent (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000168/!x-usc:mailto:christine@lightingthewayhome.orgSent): Friday, September 28, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: SUCCESS
> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COVERAGE.
>
> THE VICTIM GIRL HAS BEEN FOUND SAFE AND WELL.
>
> CHESTER A. STILES IS STILL A FUGITIVE AND STILL ON THE RUN.
>
> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EXTENSIVE COVERAGE AND SUPPORT OF THIS CASE.
>
> BEST REGARDS,
>
> Detective David Boruchowitz
> Nye County Sheriff's Office
> 1520 E. Basin Ave
> Pahrump, Nevada 89060
> Office: 775-751-7008
> Cell: 775-294-6005
> Fax: 775-751-4232
> dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000168/!x-usc:mailto:dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us)
>
>
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 02:06 AM
Since these photos all give a little different image of Chester 'Chet' Stiles I'll post them here also.
Chester Arthur Stiles
D.O.B. 09/14/1970
http://i24.tinypic.com/20tqdmd.jpg
http://i20.tinypic.com/2n9gnkx.jpg
http://i23.tinypic.com/2i0rzuu.jpg
And the kicker that looks just like profile in video
http://i21.tinypic.com/2akeiqu.jpg
christine2448
09-29-2007, 02:07 AM
Since these photos all give a little different image of Chester 'Chet' Stiles I'll post them here also.
Chester Arthur Stiles
D.O.B. 09/14/1970
And the kicker that looks just like profile in video
Thanks I was looking for these to post, awesome!
Jaded
09-29-2007, 02:08 AM
*gags* Just the sight of him makes me want to spew.
christine2448
09-29-2007, 02:10 AM
Lesson for everyone, look how different he looks in every pic. Just enough difference to maybe make you miss it. Good lesson for all these different cases and pic we look at. The slightest variation can make the biggest difference. The same face is there if you knew him, if not, fooled.
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 02:13 AM
Good point, Christine. And he doesn't look anything like Anders now that we see the other pictures of him.
docwho3
09-29-2007, 02:15 AM
What else is known about this guy? So far I have only found a couple of things that have that name associated and they might not be the same person. There are others with the same name in the world.
The name is Chester Arthur Stiles:
So I tried using the middle name of Arthur and shortened it to Art Stiles.
I used a free search engine.
I looked up Art Stiles
The age shown is wrong so can't say anything about that.
http://www.darkimages.com/tattoos.asp?AID=22
I also looked up
Chester Stiles:
Found this entry:
Posted by: Angela Fehringer (angel_hot692000)
Date Posted: 2002-04-06 08:48:09
Message: Looking for an old friend...Chet(Chester)Stiles. I last heard many years ago that he was stationed at Camp Legune, NC. Any one with information please contact me. Angela Fries angel_hot692000@yahoo.com
http://www.gisearch.com/lostfound/ldM.24.0.9572/
christine2448
09-29-2007, 02:15 AM
Good point, Christine. And he doesn't look anything like Anders now that we see the other pictures of him.
Right, and still, the 1st pics of the video and Anders, I'd swear it was him.
tiredblondy
09-29-2007, 02:19 AM
Right, and still, the 1st pics of the video and Anders, I'd swear it was him.
Me two!
philamena
09-29-2007, 02:20 AM
He says hes a Navy Seal...whatever!:rolleyes:
BUT since he told someone that, his name will be looked up in every single US military data base in the country.
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 02:26 AM
He claims to be a Navy Seal, a martial artist, doesn't gamble or drink. Has told an aquaintance he would never be taken alive.
Bob Beckett, Dist. Attorney said that Stiles at one time had worked with the Zigfried & Roy show in Las Vegas as an animal trainer.
Fermi
09-29-2007, 02:30 AM
He claims to be a Navy Seal, a martial artist, doesn't gamble or drink. Has told an aquaintance he would never be taken alive.
Dead is okay with me :silenced:
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 02:32 AM
Dead is okay with me :silenced:
Definately wouldn't hurt my feelings any ;)
SadieMae
09-29-2007, 03:08 AM
Would save a lot of taxpayer money not having a trial...yep, dead is fine with me too.
CaliKid
09-29-2007, 03:42 AM
Yes, POS, if you feel that strongly about being captured, be my guest. Please save everyone the time and trouble.
froggierintexas
09-29-2007, 08:10 AM
Ya, I don't believe in police brutality, but if they accidentally run him over because of bad brakes or shoot him when they are trying to put their guns away, or accidentally slam his head into the cruiser when trying to help him gently to his seat, accidents happen.
JanetElaine
09-29-2007, 08:28 AM
Guess I'm about the only one who doesn't want him dead.
He needs to be taken alive. Someone who said he won't be taken alive should NOT get his way. Plus, someone needs to make this bastard talk. Who knows what all else he did in his sorry life.
If if if someone happens upon this guy, please remember he is considered armed and dangerous. Don't try to play hero, because your Oscar might be awarded posthumously.
LovingTheChaos
09-29-2007, 08:54 AM
The mom recognized the furniture, so she obviously knew this man. I am guessing this was a boyfriend she left her baby with.
When will these moms learn???? That poor baby. I have a 3 year old. I cannot even imagine someone doing this to a 3 year old. My prayer for her is that, being so young, she will forget most if not all of the assault (if she hasn't already, God willing).
angarella
09-29-2007, 08:57 AM
The mom recognized the furniture, so she obviously knew this man. I am guessing this was a boyfriend she left her baby with.
When will these moms learn???? That poor baby. I have a 3 year old. I cannot even imagine someone doing this to a 3 year old. My prayer for her is that, being so young, she will forget most if not all of the assault (if she hasn't already, God willing).
They said on the PC that this man was not a "caregiver". He was a several tiered friend. ie: friend of a friend of a friend......
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 09:03 AM
I've been thinking about this all night; how did he have access to this little girl without her mother knowing. It's just a theory. Here goes. If he's going around saying he's a SEAL then he might have been in the San Diego area. Maybe Madison's mother was too. I was wondering if maybe she was in the military and had to go on a deployment. If so she would need someone to take care of her child if no family were living nearby. Maybe she had what she thought was a good friend that Madison stayed with (deployments in the Navy are usually six mos.). Plenty of time for him to think he had carte blanche with this little girl without getting caught. I'm sure if he had been staying with this caregiver there were times when she was left alone with him.
I know the peeping tom video was in Las Vegas but it was taken at a different time. I'm sure a creep like this has to move around a lot.
Go easy on me. I'm not as good at this as the rest of you guys. I'm just trying to think of a way the mom wouldn't know what was happening.
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 09:04 AM
Did I just hear that the police are looking for Darren Tuck? Or did I misunderstand that? I thought he was in custody?
LovingTheChaos
09-29-2007, 09:06 AM
They said on Greta last night that the tape was made in Vegas, & the family of the girl lives in Vegas. If it was a friend of a friend of a friend, how did the mom recognize the furniture. The most prominate piece of furniture in that room was the unmade bed. I am thinking that is what she recognized.
Amraann
09-29-2007, 09:06 AM
OH Chris Honey, he does NOT need to be found ..... he needs a one way trip to Alligator Ally.....
And never to be found or seen again...
"here gator gator gator!!! Look its lunch!!"
angarella
09-29-2007, 09:09 AM
Did I just hear that the police are looking for Darren Tuck? Or did I misunderstand that? I thought he was in custody?
I think he was released originally and now they are looking for him for different charges. Child support I think.
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 09:11 AM
I've been searching "Chet Stiles". I came across his name on a site that list rankings for what I think is motocross. Look under Street Stocks. The only thing is it says Chet Stiles, Jr. LE didn't say anything about a junior.
http://www.whowon.com/Points.asp?TrackID=1080
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 09:14 AM
Sorry. There's another Chet Stiles and he lives in New Hampshire. This is the one mentioned on the motocross site. Weird coincidence since Tuck is involved in motocross too.
swanniee11
09-29-2007, 09:17 AM
I heard he was arrested for breaking his parole?????? I think it had something to do with child support as well???? I also heard the name on the PC of "Voyer" who is that? I couldnt get in last night, gave up. Boy what a PC and i'm so happy to hear she is ok.
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 09:33 AM
Right, and still, the 1st pics of the video and Anders, I'd swear it was him.
I would have too. The front view is so different but the profile is very much like him...I was sure it was him.
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 09:38 AM
I heard he was arrested for breaking his parole?????? I think it had something to do with child support as well???? I also heard the name on the PC of "Voyer" who is that? I couldnt get in last night, gave up. Boy what a PC and i'm so happy to hear she is ok.
I'm glad you could get in this morning. I hate it when that happens!
I'm curious about who that is too. I don't think I caught that part.
It did have something to do with child support. Non-compliance with the terms and conditions?
There could be a Chester Stiles, Jr. but we don't know his child/children's names.
I agree with those who said dead is alright. It would save the taxpayers money. I just hope he doesn't take any LE or innocent bystanders with him if it comes to that.
JanetElaine
09-29-2007, 09:48 AM
I heard he was arrested for breaking his parole?????? I think it had something to do with child support as well???? I also heard the name on the PC of "Voyer" who is that? I couldnt get in last night, gave up. Boy what a PC and i'm so happy to hear she is ok.
It's voyeur, which means peeping tom.
OH Chris Honey, he does NOT need to be found ..... he needs a one way trip to Alligator Ally.....
And never to be found or seen again...
"here gator gator gator!!! Look its lunch!!"
Sorry, this is one meal not even fit for a gator.
mjak
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 09:57 AM
It's voyeur, which means peeping tom.
Of course! Thanks for clearing that up. I'm sleep deprived and still drinking coffee trying to clear the cobwebs.
Was the child support thing for Tuck for for Chester? TIA. I'm confused on that one too.
And, one more question, who recognized the furniture in the video?
Samiya
09-29-2007, 10:26 AM
Associated Press..
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD8RV3RL82
Sami
JanetElaine
09-29-2007, 10:32 AM
Of course! Thanks for clearing that up. I'm sleep deprived and still drinking coffee trying to clear the cobwebs.
Was the child support thing for Tuck for for Chester? TIA. I'm confused on that one too.
And, one more question, who recognized the furniture in the video?
No problem.
Child support = Tuck.
Furniture don't know. That was when my husband decided to talk to me. :doh:
colomom
09-29-2007, 10:42 AM
No problem.
Child support = Tuck.
Furniture don't know. That was when my husband decided to talk to me. :doh:
I think it was Madison's mother that recognized the furniture.
believe09
09-29-2007, 10:47 AM
From all of the coverage I have been reading, it seems that :
-Chester A Stiles was in Pahrump at one time.
-Darren Tuck is from Pahrump and found the tape there.
Also:
-The child being attacked was 3 at the time but showed no reaction to being attacked so clearly had been abused many times before.
-The mother had no idea of the abuse, yet her 3 year old was being raped by an adult male repeatedly at a location she recognized on the tape, and some how there were no signs? No blood, bruising, vaginal/anal tearing, no fear of going to that location, NOTHING?
-Stiles is wanted on a warrant for 2007 for sexually assaulting a 6 year-old
Please correct any information that I have that is incorrect, WS'ers...I still can't shake this case.
Some criminal codes explicitly consider all kinds of forced sexual activity to be rape - Does anyone know what is classified as rape in Nevada...just that there may not have been any physical signs of the abuse, believe09.
Just a thought
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 10:58 AM
I would think a child of that age/size (sorry not meaning to be graphic) would have tearing and bruising. That's why I'm thinking this little girl was left in the care of someone that knew about it or didn't care to further investigate any signs of abuse for a while. I don't think this person was the mother.
Socks
09-29-2007, 11:02 AM
http://i20.tinypic.com/2n9gnkx.jpg
I like this one. Only a taste of what's coming to the POS!
alpharee
09-29-2007, 11:12 AM
Actually he's wanted on a warrant from 2004 for engaging in a lewd act with a minor under 14 and he's wanted on a warrant in 2007 for traveling interstate to avoid prosecution from that charge.
JinxieJada
09-29-2007, 11:15 AM
could he be working with/for one of these type of places?
thoughts which lead me to this-
always on the move...
place to live
income
usually off the books
sickening but...easy access to more of what he likes
he could use his skills as an animal trainer
that would give him the spotlight that he seems to enjoy
if something fell through employment wise, it's easy to pick up another job
anyone else see the possibility??
believe09
09-29-2007, 11:15 AM
I thought I saw a needle mark in her arm or at least bruising as if there had been, so I am praying (in a strange way) that something was given to her and perhaps that is why her eyes seemed so dead, and the Det. stated she showed no reaction to the abuse.
What monsterous individuals are these people who delight in stealing innocence like this? I cannot wrap my mind around it....he should be left alone in a room full of mothers.
believe09
09-29-2007, 11:18 AM
could he be working with/for one of these type of places?
thoughts which lead me to this-
always on the move...
place to live
income
usually off the books
sickening but...easy access to more of what he likes
he could use his skills as an animal trainer
that would give him the spotlight that he seems to enjoy
if something fell through employment wise, it's easy to pick up another job
anyone else see the possibility??
I did a simple background check on him and he definitely has lived some of the places in FL where circuses might "winter...!!!!!
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 11:19 AM
No problem.
Child support = Tuck.
Furniture don't know. That was when my husband decided to talk to me. :doh:
Thanks JE!
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 11:22 AM
Some criminal codes explicitly consider all kinds of forced sexual activity to be rape - Does anyone know what is classified as rape in Nevada...just that there may not have been any physical signs of the abuse, believe09.
Just a thought
Since LE said he did everything imaginable (paraphrased) to this child and said it was the worst they had ever seen, I'm thinking there would be definite physical signs of the abuse. It didn't sound like just fondling, etc.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 11:24 AM
I think the mother recognized the furniture and the little girl once they showed her the tape. They did not say she didn't have a TV, just that she hadn't watched the news in the past few days. They she she was unaware of this going on, but did know the location and her connection to Stiles was distant as a friend of a friend of a friend..not that she personally knew him. Which leads me to beleive that Stiles took this video at the house of the friend of a friend. Since they say this occurred in 2003 and 2003 was when he was also charged with the warrant for sexual misconduct with a minor under 14, because that child told a relative, this means in 2003 he was quite the sexual predator of young girls. So there are probably other vics out there.
I imagine this 3 year old in the video was told not to tell or something harmful would happen to her or her family. That maybe the family wouldn't believe her so they would send her away. A 3 year old could be cohersed with that type of threat. Also if he was an animal trainer he knew something about how to manipulate behavior to his advantage.
I think that the Stephanie Allen they refer to in the presser came up twice..1 time where the detective looked shocked they said this name was when he was asked if police were at her home that night and again asked what she had to do with this case..how is she involved? Both times he did not say no involvement..he said he couldn't verify that due to ongoing investigation. Also, I don't think the 23 year old Stephanie Allen would be known to reporters or where she lived..I think they might know where a high profile female attorney lived. I think that being an attorney maybe she had a nanny for this little girl and maybe the nanny took care of the child's bathing, clothing, etc. Usually that is part of the nanny's job description. I think it would be very possible then that this mom would not know about this at all. And I am sure the child would not have said anything if asomeone was hurting her like this and she was told not to.
He told the other little girl not to say anything..and as far as we know she was not on a video. The little girl that told her family and that resulted in his going on the run) Therefore we can figure he really used something horrible to a 3 year olds mind to threaten her.
I also thought the detective said that they showed the perv's picture to the little girl and she reconized him, but I couldn't tell exactly because he had also just spoken about the mom.
Not sure who the older couple was at the presser, I thought Grandparents, too, then when the conference started and the sherrif was thanking everyone I thought maybe they were the crew thatcame in to help man the tips and phones..just don't know.
I am glad she is okay and prayers to little one and her family for the therapy and healing that will be able to take place now.
JinxieJada
09-29-2007, 11:27 AM
I did a simple background check on him and he definitely has lived some of the places in FL where circuses might "winter...!!!!!
Believe -
I'm wondering if even right there in/around Vegas...A side show type thing...(think of all the articles we read/hear about ...the dirty cruel conditions of "roadside" circuses and zoos")
Or...working for one of the brothels in the area...thinking the whole exotic animal thing..if he's trained them, he probably knows how to maintain their environment, and care for them..(hence the roadside zoo aspect)
Even Cali in one of the touristy towns??
sorry for the typos running thoughts..brain is going faster than i can type LOL
believe09
09-29-2007, 11:32 AM
Perhaps the friend of a friend connection was through the caregiver for the child then, if in fact she is from a more affluent family or a family of dual incomes etc...any way you look at it, it was quite a set up for a non intimate family member to get access to a 3 year old for more than 30 minutes for this tape alone, not to mention any previous assaults that may have occurred.
AmandaBrown23
09-29-2007, 11:38 AM
I am also wondering how your child could be assaulted like this and you dont know. I am not accusing the mom, but that doesnt sound right.
believe09
09-29-2007, 11:38 AM
Jinxie-
I agree-and where is he now? If we follow through with the idea of him being a carnie and on the run, (if he is stupid enough to have stayed in the US), where would he likely be? I am hoping the key is Mr. Tuck and when he really received the tape-if Mr. Stiles was indeed a resident of Pahrump, which is what, 60 miles from Vegas? Maybe Mr. Tuck can enlighten the police as to where Mr. Stiles is....
IdahoMom
09-29-2007, 11:42 AM
From all of the coverage I have been reading, it seems that :
-Chester A Stiles was in Pahrump at one time.
-Darren Tuck is from Pahrump and found the tape there.
Also:
-The child being attacked was 3 at the time but showed no reaction to being attacked so clearly had been abused many times before.
-The mother had no idea of the abuse, yet her 3 year old was being raped by an adult male repeatedly at a location she recognized on the tape, and some how there were no signs? No blood, bruising, vaginal/anal tearing, no fear of going to that location, NOTHING?
-Stiles is wanted on a warrant for 2007 for sexually assaulting a 6 year-old
Please correct any information that I have that is incorrect, WS'ers...I still can't shake this case.
My thoughts exactly! The police said it was apparent this had happened to this little girl before. So, I'm thinking this guy (let's hope more than one person hasn't molested her) did these horrible things...that tells me he's had access to her more than once and for some period of time on each occassion. Did someone deliver her to him for this purpose? I know that sounds sick, but it does happen. People do that to kids in exchange for money and/or drugs.
Does anyone know if they're saying the camera was on a tripod or was someone else filming this sickness?
natasha-cupcake
09-29-2007, 11:42 AM
Regarding the comment that the mom recognized the furniture in the video--I heard them state that it was the mom of the OLDER girl in the tape who recognized her daughter's furniture (when Stiles was peep filming through the window) NOT Madison's mom recognizing the furniture in the room where he abused the little girl. This is a big distinction and needs to be clarified I think.
Did anyone else hear this? Does anyone have a link to the transcript of the press conference? I am pretty darn sure that's what I heard.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 11:48 AM
Does anyone have a link to show all the different jobs he had. Smeone mentioned he was a Navy Seal, and now an animal trainer, and some other jobs or talents?
ceeaura
09-29-2007, 11:52 AM
Regarding the comment that the mom recognized the furniture in the video--I heard them state that it was the mom of the OLDER girl in the tape who recognized her daughter's furniture (when Stiles was peep filming through the window) NOT Madison's mom recognizing the furniture in the room where he abused the little girl. This is a big distinction and needs to be clarified I think.
Did anyone else hear this? Does anyone have a link to the transcript of the press conference? I am pretty darn sure that's what I heard.
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21034065/&fg=&from=00&vid=26410552-50d3-4aa6-8497-fd3c242d7ab6&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:News_Editors%20 Picks:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A
link to the video press confrence on msnbc
STEADFAST
09-29-2007, 11:54 AM
DeMeo says the girl was found safe today with her mother. He says authorities believe the mother had no knowledge of the abuse her daughter had endured. DeMeo says the mother recognized furniture in the video. . . .
The girl's now 7 years old. DeMeo says she seems like a happy, healthy child. Investigators determined that the video of the attack was recorded over the video of an 11-year-old girl taped in October 2005 through a window of a Pahrump home, DeMeo said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/28/national/main3310890.shtml
Two things:
First, it IS the mother of Patience who recognized the furniture.
Second: If the rape took place in 2003 and was taped OVER a tape made in 2005, this must be a copy of the rape tape.
IdahoMom
09-29-2007, 11:56 AM
Second: If the rape took place in 2003 and was taped OVER a tape made in 2005, this must be a copy of the rape tape.
Good catch.
Anuniaq
09-29-2007, 12:04 PM
Regarding the comment that the mom recognized the furniture in the video--I heard them state that it was the mom of the OLDER girl in the tape who recognized her daughter's furniture (when Stiles was peep filming through the window) NOT Madison's mom recognizing the furniture in the room where he abused the little girl. This is a big distinction and needs to be clarified I think.
Did anyone else hear this? Does anyone have a link to the transcript of the press conference? I am pretty darn sure that's what I heard.
Assaulted Young Girl Found Safe in Las Vegas
Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.
"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.
Detective Boruchowitz says the man on the tape is Chester Stiles and that he was a family friend.
Detectives also pinpointed the tape was made in 2003 when the victim was just three years old. Boruchowitz says she does not show any signs of a girl who has been sexually abused.
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733&nav=menu102_2
I think it is Madison's mom they are talking about.
jilly
09-29-2007, 12:10 PM
I think it was Madison's mother that recognized the furniture.
Yes it was. They also mentioned her identifying the TV so they must have shown her more stills of the video.
Greywing
09-29-2007, 12:15 PM
[quote=Anuniaq;1707197]Assaulted Young Girl Found Safe in Las Vegas
Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.
"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.
Detective Boruchowitz says the man on the tape is Chester Stiles and that he was a family friend.
Detectives also pinpointed the tape was made in 2003 when the victim was just three years old. Boruchowitz says she does not show any signs of a girl who has been sexually abused.
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733&nav=menu102_2
I think it is Madison's mom they are talking about.
[quote]
Already things are getting skewed by the media. The det and sheriff both emphasized that Chester Stiles was not a family friend but "several tiered". Other news reports are correctly reporting this.
Also the mother had not seen the video on tv news reports - she had not watched news in several days. Please keep in mind that many people don't watch the news. The implication was more that she recognized the furniture when she was shown the video at the sheriff's dept.
I hope everyone keeps in mind that there is probably alot more furniture shown on the actual video than the snippet issued to the media.
Taximom
09-29-2007, 12:20 PM
I was trying to figure out what was meant by "recognized the furniture" and thought maybe it was furniture that had been given (or sold) to friends by Madison's family.
Was it said if M's mom recognized only the furniture or did she recognize the home this was filmed in?
natasha-cupcake
09-29-2007, 12:20 PM
Thanks, everybody. I listened to the press conference again, and I was wrong! Sorry!
cheko1
09-29-2007, 12:24 PM
I sincerely hope the taxpaers are spared the expense of a trial in this case. The sorry azz puke don't deserve to get a free meal or free room & board i:loser:
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 12:28 PM
Dog The Bounty Hunter is going after him. Last night he was just waiting for the warrants to arrive while he was on Larry King. He said he thought he was in California..the police thought that too earlier from remarks they made.
I hope Dog gets him..and then there is an accidental punch or two to the head and a knife slip to the balls of this predator.
I know that isn't very nice...but what he did is unthinkable and maybe a few hours alone in a room full of Madison's family wouldn't be a stretch either.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 12:34 PM
Does anyone have a link to his past jobs and his past locations?
I'm thinking that might help pinpoint his location now.
If he did this type of thing in Vegas I'm sure he did this other places. He must've left a trail of vics, but many too terrorized and too young to speak up.
We need to help find this PREDATOR fast before he victimizes anyone else!
blaize
09-29-2007, 12:35 PM
[Source (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/28/acd.02.html)]
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
SHERIFF TONY DEMEO, NYE COUNTY, NEVADA: And like I said before, on behalf of the Nye County community, the Nye County Sheriff's Office and I can't speak for Dave, but I know the D.A.'s office as well -- on behalf of the Nye County D.A.'s Office, we do appreciate the investment that the media has had in our community and in this case in order for us to bring -- to identify this young girl, to make sure that she's safe, she is alive and well because that's one of the concerns people had. They were making that -- once they found out what her name was that she would somehow be discarded, that she's alive and well, that the family members, the family is very supportive of this young girl. We believe that with the family support and as much as less intrusion in their life as possible, unless they decide to disclose any type of information, that we respect their privacy and we respect anonymity.
And it's tough for me to say (UNINTELLIGIBLE) from -- from Brooklyn. But let me just say that we -- we -- we're looking now. The person that should be up on that screen is not this young victim, but should be Chester Arthur Stiles.
This individual which we believe at this time may not be -- that does not -- may not be in this jurisdiction and that that's the person that this nation should be looking for. And any information that you have, contact your local law enforcement agency, contact the Nye County Sheriff's Office.
Because basically or not, believe it or not, we -- we will get this individual. Nye County Sheriff's Office, any law enforcement entity will be relentless in -- in tracking this person down and bringing him to the criminal justice system.UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. What happened when you realized you had the girl?
DETECTIVE DAVID BORUCHOWITZ, NYE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE: We went and found her.
Basically, first of all, just real quick, I'd remark off the sheriff, I take absolutely no credit for this investigation. Full credit falls upon your viewers. And like we've said all along, thank you. Thank you for the coverage and your continued patience with us.
Basically this evening we received numerous tips once we aired the suspect's photo, as well as the victim's name.
And using several of those tips from the media, we were able to coordinate our efforts and actually verify a lot of the information that was coming in very quickly to actually identify exactly where this victim was and exactly who she was.
I'm going to remind you, obviously, before you ask any questions because I know what's coming, this is an ongoing police investigation. This is a victim of a sexual assault. And, thus, the information we can release to you is extremely limited, reference information.
I understand that because of this investigation and the way it's gone that the media has been thoroughly involved and information has been forthcoming and I assure you, I will tell you anything I can and anything else I can't. On behalf...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is Stiles in fact her dad?
BORUCHOWITZ: Hang on. Stiles is definitely not her father.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How is she connected to the family? How is Stiles connected to the family?
BORUCHOWITZ: Stiles is connected to the family on a several- tier-friend connection. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This happened in the Allen household in Las Vegas. Talked to Stephanie Allen's friend. She said that she recognized the sheets.
BORUCHOWITZ: I can't discuss that. Obviously, that's going to be directly correlated to the ongoing police investigation.BORUCHOWITZ: The final tip was approximately two hours before we notified you of the press conference. To be honest with you, I didn't have a watch. I couldn't tell you what time it was.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was it due to the press or the family last name?
BORUCHOWITZ: The tip was -- it's not one tip. OK, we got numerous tips and these tips allowed us to identify exactly where she was, who she was and exactly the situation that was going on.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could you give us a little narrative then of how this kind of unfolded? BORUCHOWITZ: Tips were coming in by the hundreds. Immediately after the last press conference, they were being screened for obviously specific things we wanted in reference to this investigation. Those specific leads were handed directly to the detective's division for immediate follow-up.
In a matter of approximately a half hour period of time enough tips came into our office that we were immediately able to link together.
A phone call was made to the victim's family and immediately identified where we could go.
We responded immediately, located the victim and notified you guys.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was the family aware of all this? Was the family watching their daughter?
BORUCHOWITZ: Absolutely not.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How is the girl?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They had no clue any of this was happening?
BORUCHOWITZ: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did the girl react when you found her?
BORUCHOWITZ: How did the girl react when we found her?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When she was found.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We all saw what she looks like from the photos. We all saw her eyes, her face, we talked about that. What did she look like when you met her? What were her eyes and her face?
BORUCHOWITZ: She looks like a very happy 7-year-old girl.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How does the mother not know this is going on?
(CROSSTALK)
BORUCHOWITZ: The mother has not watched the news. She received a phone call.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did she not know that this was happening to her daughter?
BORUCHOWITZ: That -- that's obviously going to be investigated. And during the investigation that obviously will come forth. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did she tell you about this, the attack?
BORUCHOWITZ: Absolutely nothing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does she remember it?
BORUCHOWITZ: We can't discuss that. That's the ongoing investigation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is the family still related to Stiles or friends with him at all?
(CROSSTALK)
BORUCHOWITZ: I would highly doubt that after this.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is the last time she saw Stiles, the little girl, when is the last time she saw him?
BORUCHOWITZ: I can't discuss that either.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did he have access to her? Because the -- the suggestion was made that there must have been a familiarity and obviously she must have been left in his care because he did not seem on the tape as if he was hurried or as if he was unfamiliar with her. How did he have access to her? And what kind of access? Was he a care giver in essence?
BORUCHOWITZ: As far as we can tell, he was not a caregiver.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So how did he -- how was he -- how did he have access to her?
DEMEO: May I answer that question?
Understand this is that this investigation -- this part of the investigation dealing with the victim and dealing with the -- the case, that's now being turned over -- that is metro's investigation. And those are questions that metro will probably be investigating.
You know, we're going to give you as much information on this, but remember one thing is that now this investigation belongs to another jurisdiction.
This case, this crime occurred in Clark County. And those detectives there will be looking -- will be looking at -- at how this occurred and the situation involved in it.
We ascertain right now from the information we got is that the mother -- and correct me if I'm wrong on this, detective, the mother was not aware of this.
BORUCHOWITZ: Correct. DEMEO: And -- and what had brought this to -- to her attention was the name, was the name of the victim. And I think the name of the suspect...
BORUCHOWITZ: Correct.UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... relationship between Stiles and Tuck?
(CROSSTALK)
BORUCHOWITZ: At this point that has not been identified. I assure you that will be part of the investigation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you believe he's still in Las Vegas?
BORUCHOWITZ: Mr. Stiles?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
BORUCHOWITZ: I have no way to believe that. All I can tell you is wherever he is, he needs to be found.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Darren Tuck failed the polygraph test. So he's obviously a liar. Did he film this? Did he have anything to do with this?
BORUCHOWITZ: As far as we know right now, he has -- we have no direct correlation to say that he filmed it. I also have no direct correlation to say he did not.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How do you know who...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does the mother know who Stiles is?
BORUCHOWITZ: I -- that's part of the ongoing investigation. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How do you know the other incident on the tape occurred in Nye County?
BORUCHOWITZ: Because it was reported to us in Nye County.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does the mother know who Stiles is?
BORUCHOWITZ: Yes.UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Or first, how did the tape get to Nye County?
BORUCHOWITZ: That's still undetermined and still under investigation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The little girl lives with the father too or just with the mother?
BORUCHOWITZ: We're not going to discuss her family, OK? What I can tell you is this -- this little girl's family has asked us to let you as the press and to let the nation that's been watching know that they are extremely grateful that this was brought to their attention through these means.
I know that at some point she may consider speaking to the press. OK? She's asked, obviously, that people not hunt her down and assures you that she's appreciative.
And in reality, much of the investigation is still under investigation. And, thus, we really cannot release a lot of that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) How old was the girl when the tape was made?
BORUCHOWITZ: She's seven now and it was four years ago.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was three?
BORUCHOWITZ: Correct. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detective, I -- maybe I'm a little dense, but I have trouble understanding how it is that this could have been going on with a 3-year-old and the parents wouldn't know it, they wouldn't see any signs of the sexual assault or anything of that.
BORUCHOWITZ: Those are obvious questions that will come forth during the investigation and that will be metro's responsibility to follow up on that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Has the family been cleared totally of this?
BORUCHOWITZ: That -- that's going to be up to metro to handle that in terms of that investigation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's still not clear on how the mom knows Stiles. What did she say -- what was the relationship?
(CROSSTALK)
BORUCHOWITZ: I understand it's not clear to you guys and I wish I could help you with that. Unfortunately, that is a direct part of the investigation that's going to be crucial to metro. We can't release anything about that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What is the best way to describe his relationship with the family?
BORUCHOWITZ: Like -- like I said in the beginning, he's a several tier-away family friend. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he know the girl through Stephanie Allen?
BORUCHOWITZ: I'm not going to comment on that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me make sure -- what do you mean several tiers away? So he didn't have a direct relationship with anyone in the family?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A friend of a friend? Is that what you're trying to say?
BORUCHOWITZ: In all honesty, we can't comment on the direct relationship between him and the girl. This is an ongoing investigation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Simply a family friend.
BORUCHOWITZ: That would be simply put.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: About how long did the abuse -- I mean, how long did it last? I mean, months?
BORUCHOWITZ: That is obviously still undetermined and that obviously is the focus of the ongoing investigation to determine how long this went on.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And she was three years old at the time?
BORUCHOWITZ: Correct.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The mother was completely unaware that this abuse was going on. Are we to assume then that the child has not received any psychological and physical care for this abuse? Is she going to...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Prior to this?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
BORUCHOWITZ: I would have no -- no knowledge of any care she's received. But the assumption would be if the mother didn't know, she couldn't obviously provide care.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you put her in contact with people now?
BORUCHOWITZ: She's been put in contact with the necessary people. Continued at [Source (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/28/acd.02.html)]
Taximom
09-29-2007, 12:41 PM
Thanks, Blaize!
jilly
09-29-2007, 12:43 PM
I'm just curious....if this happened to this poor little girl 4 yrs ago and not since, how would a therapist deal with this? If she's suppressed all this horror, would you awaken this nightmare?
blaize
09-29-2007, 12:44 PM
Thanks, Blaize!
Welcome Taximom, it should be noted that the Anderson Cooper show did not broadcast the full Press Conference so keep looking for a full transcript on other sites.
christine2448
09-29-2007, 12:44 PM
Ya, I don't believe in police brutality, but if they accidentally run him over because of bad brakes or shoot him when they are trying to put their guns away, or accidentally slam his head into the cruiser when trying to help him gently to his seat, accidents happen.
I hope LE is still reading here :silenced:
I just don't understand how this keeps happening. Who is in control here? Ray Gricar had one shot at my step dad, who BTW, did not molest me, he went after my sisters. LOL Ray said he didn't molest me because he thought I would tell, Ray was seeing me at 18, my scumbag grandpa got me, at age 12, I didn't tell, until yearssss later, didn't even tell Ray when my step dad was being prosecuted, anywho, he put him away a long time, why don't the rest of them get this?????? How do some of these POS get caught and get let out over and over and over again to hurt our children!?!
Do you think more children/people will come forward, maybe feel safe now that what he has done 'is out'?
Taximom
09-29-2007, 12:47 PM
Welcome Taximom, it should be noted that the Anderson Cooper show did not broadcast the full Press Conference so keep looking for a full transcript on other sites.
Yeah, I noticed that. They always seem to cut away when the reporters start asking questions I'd like to ask!
jilly
09-29-2007, 12:48 PM
Was the DA at the presser too?
englishleigh
09-29-2007, 12:49 PM
I've just started following this and I'm just sick. All I can think of is "Chester the Molester" but I know it's not funny at ALL...it's sickening. I pray they get this guy and he does a "suicide by cop" b/c that is exactly what he deserves!!!!!!! :furious: :furious:
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{CHRISTINE}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} for all you've been through, Sweetie. :blowkiss: And for everyone here who has had something sick perpetrated upon them...:blowkiss:
Taximom
09-29-2007, 12:50 PM
I'm just curious....if this happened to this poor little girl 4 yrs ago and not since, how would a therapist deal with this? If she's suppressed all this horror, would you awaken this nightmare?
jilly, that's exactly what I was thinking last night. If she has suppressed this (which I'm not sure is a good thing in the end), how do you help her? If she sees his picture (at 7 yrs, she might on TV or the paper), will she regress suddenly?
I still think she has to be developmentally delayed or maybe even non-verbal or mute?
She will be in our prayers as long as we live.
blaize
09-29-2007, 12:51 PM
I hope LE is still reading here :silenced:
[snipped
Do you think more children/people will come forward, maybe feel safe now that what he has done 'is out'?
Absolutely. I think his victims will be reassured by the way LE handled this issue and the sensitivity they displayed towards the little one will go a long way to showing that most LE officers are not uncaring brutes.
therese
09-29-2007, 12:53 PM
He claims to be a Navy Seal, a martial artist, doesn't gamble or drink. Has told an aquaintance he would never be taken alive.
Bob Beckett, Dist. Attorney said that Stiles at one time had worked with the Zigfried & Roy show in Las Vegas as an animal trainer.
Van Zandt also pointed out that he worked with Zifried and Roy. I could have sworn i saw somewhere that this stephanie Allen was an attorny for Zigreid and Roy.Im looking now.
Scratch this I Found out I was confusing 2 post .Im sorry
Taximom
09-29-2007, 12:53 PM
I hope LE is still reading here :silenced:
I just don't understand how this keeps happening. Who is in control here? Ray Gricar had one shot at my step dad, who BTW, did not molest me, he went after my sisters. LOL Ray said he didn't molest me because he thought I would tell, Ray was seeing me at 18, my scumbag grandpa got me, at age 12, I didn't tell, until yearssss later, didn't even tell Ray when my step dad was being prosecuted, anywho, he put him away a long time, why don't the rest of them get this?????? How do some of these POS get caught and get let out over and over and over again to hurt our children!?!
Do you think more children/people will come forward, maybe feel safe now that what he has done 'is out'?
(((Christine))) I'm sorry for what you went through.
I'm really hoping that this case helps change laws to better protect our children. Sadly, that seems to be the only way our government gets the message.
How many other victims of Stiles alone might come forth now? Especially knowing the huge coverage this case has gotten? :(
jilly
09-29-2007, 12:55 PM
jilly, that's exactly what I was thinking last night. If she has suppressed this (which I'm not sure is a good thing in the end), how do you help her? If she sees his picture (at 7 yrs, she might on TV or the paper), will she regress suddenly?
I still think she has to be developmentally delayed or maybe even non-verbal or mute?
She will be in our prayers as long as we live.
Yeah! That makes sense. Developmental issues. Now that you've mentioned this I suppose she could have a lot of anxiety and many other disorders. So very sad.
blaize
09-29-2007, 12:55 PM
For anyone who wants to watch the full unedited Press Conference go to http://lasvegasnow.com/, click WEB EXTRA: Unedited News Conference of Assaulted Girl Located by Nevada Police.
christine2448
09-29-2007, 01:00 PM
WS'ers...I still can't shake this case.
Me either, I thought I would once she was found.
Now I know he, I don't even know what to call him, is out there among us, our children.
I am not sure what we can do here via WS right now besides continue to ban together and make sure this stays in the news.
The way to find him is to get/Keep is picture out there.
Maybe a reward? Has that been discussed, anyone know. $$ talks.
I think they may find him quick. Right now it's all over the news, and will be on AMW tonight. So the next few days I am going to take some breaths and watch LE/Media do their thing and hopefully bring this sorry SOB in.
My thoughts are if they don't find him, the story will start to fade, that is what we have to be sure doesn't happen. We can start emailing news stations/papers, publications, whatever we need to do, in whatever areas we think we should concentrate on...just don't let this story fade until he is found.
JMO, FWIW.
Taximom
09-29-2007, 01:02 PM
Yeah! That makes sense. Developmental issues. Now that you've mentioned this I suppose she could have a lot of anxiety and many other disorders. So very sad.
This is the only way I can explain to myself how a mom wouldn't know something was wrong.
If she does have some type of developmental disorder, it would probably explain nobody thinking much of M "acting out" after this abuse happened.
Just IMO.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 01:05 PM
Do you think more children/people will come forward, maybe feel safe now that what he has done 'is out'?
I think that would be great, but it seems his vics are very young, so they may not be aware that Stiles is even persued for these charges.
I would hope that anyone out there that knows this scumbag would question their young children in a gentle way, not explicit, to see if there was anything possibly going on with their child.
And since this is a friend of a friend situation it would be far reaching in his ability to come up with vics.
hotmomma35
09-29-2007, 01:11 PM
hey did I read here that stiles is madisons father? I must have missed that part of the update cause i never heard them say that. That is so disgusting!we were talking about it last night and my husband was so sickened by the thought of this situation. He said this man must have had a sick childhood or something cause you just cant be born that way.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 01:12 PM
In the presser last night the sheriff or det can't remember which said that they even got tips from prisoners....so maybe he was into porn production on a small scale and involved in this robbery ring also. But he has been hanging with some low life if people in prison started calling in tips.
christine2448
09-29-2007, 01:13 PM
hey did I read here that stiles is madisons father? I must have missed that part of the update cause i never heard them say that. That is so disgusting!we were talking about it last night and my husband was so sickened by the thought of this situation. He said this man must have had a sick childhood or something cause you just cant be born that way.
Initial reports were that he was. Now they are saying not.
Taximom
09-29-2007, 01:13 PM
hey did I read here that stiles is madisons father? I must have missed that part of the update cause i never heard them say that. That is so disgusting!we were talking about it last night and my husband was so sickened by the thought of this situation. He said this man must have had a sick childhood or something cause you just cant be born that way.
LE definitely stated Stiles is NOT this girl's father.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 01:14 PM
hey did I read here that stiles is madisons father? I must have missed that part of the update cause i never heard them say that. That is so disgusting!we were talking about it last night and my husband was so sickened by the thought of this situation. He said this man must have had a sick childhood or something cause you just cant be born that way.
Not her dad a friend of a friend of a friend type of thing.
christine2448
09-29-2007, 01:15 PM
echo echo echo
STEADFAST
09-29-2007, 01:16 PM
I think that would be great, but it seems his vics are very young, so they may not be aware that Stiles is even persued for these charges.
I would hope that anyone out there that knows this scumbag would question their young children in a gentle way, not explicit, to see if there was anything possibly going on with their child.
And since this is a friend of a friend situation it would be far reaching in his ability to come up with vics.
I bet this happened in a day care situation, where Stiles was friends with the caregiver. Think of all the victims there probably are.
The tape was made during the day.
The nightgown looked too big -- possibly it was used for various-sized toddlers.
The stack of other tapes seen on the video.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 01:17 PM
So, does anyone live in SO Cal that could talk to the press there to keep this in the news and his face on the tv? The last thing Dog said was SO Cal and the police were thinking San Deigo County too.
JinxieJada
09-29-2007, 01:19 PM
Jinxie-
I agree-and where is he now? If we follow through with the idea of him being a carnie and on the run, (if he is stupid enough to have stayed in the US), where would he likely be? I am hoping the key is Mr. Tuck and when he really received the tape-if Mr. Stiles was indeed a resident of Pahrump, which is what, 60 miles from Vegas? Maybe Mr. Tuck can enlighten the police as to where Mr. Stiles is....
I may have missed it in a previous thread and/or post but - does he have ties anywhere else but the LV area?
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 01:24 PM
On a previous thread there was a list..can't find it now.
But Texas, Florida, some other places were listed as past addresses.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 01:33 PM
Let's see State fairs take place this time of year in some areas, as do many Fall type events. He might be traveling with the carny to something like that. Or he might work for a zoo of some sort. San Diego has a marvelous zoo ....
JinxieJada
09-29-2007, 01:40 PM
maybe texas area if looking at the animal employment scenarios -
hunt farms
exotic roadside "stands"
cattle farms?
horse farms?
(i know we have posters here in Texas - what else is down there?)
If he is into the survivalist lifestyle mode...he could easily be at campgrounds, on the road in an rv somewhere, damn it's like we're in a giant game of "where's waldo" right now. BUT w/o the help of the striped shirt!
docwho3
09-29-2007, 02:14 PM
If L.E. thinks he is in CA they are probably right and will likely catch him. Having said that: For myself, just looking at long shots, I am thinking perhaps north and east part of the country instead, perhaps MN. All just thoughts of course. Maybe backtracking tuck's movements for about 6 months to a year will tell them something and I bet they are doing that little thing.
Looking at some possibilities of other countries as well, just not much yet to indicate that, a sliver but not much.
Actually if I was hiding from L.E. right now I might head to New Orleans where it seems its pretty much like the wild west of the old days but I just haven't heard any indications at all of him heading in that direction so for now MN is still my longshot thought.
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 02:21 PM
I would check into where he has family members. They warned him before so he could get away. That leads me to think they would take him in to protect him.
docwho3
09-29-2007, 02:25 PM
I would check into where he has family members. They warned him before so he could get away. That leads me to think they would take him in to protect him. It is certainly worth looking at but I think the level of heat is much higher now than before and so they must know L.E., probably including some feds, are going to be all over this one and he is not going to be allowed to hide under the family bed, but that's just my opinion. I hope they get him soon wherever he is.
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 02:28 PM
This article has a lot of information:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/10126486.html
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 02:30 PM
It is certainly worth looking at but I think the level of heat is much higher now than before and so they must know L.E., probably including some feds, are going to be all over this one and he is not going to be allowed to hide under the family bed, but that's just my opinion. I hope they get him soon wherever he is.
That's true but they still might have him put up in a motel nearby, maybe not. I have a strong feeling they know exactly where he is and they are sending him money.
angelmom
09-29-2007, 02:34 PM
I bet this happened in a day care situation, where Stiles was friends with the caregiver. Think of all the victims there probably are.
The tape was made during the day.
The nightgown looked too big -- possibly it was used for various-sized toddlers.
The stack of other tapes seen on the video.
I was thinking that maybe Stephanie Allen was the babysitter also, and watched the little girl at her home. Stiles could have been anyone from a live in boyfriend to a relative of Allen's who was crashing at her house for awhile.
The mom would have been familiar with the house if that's where her daughter stayed while she worked. She might have gone into the bedroom area to use the bathroom or change a diaper or if M was napping there.
I got the impression that the mom recognized the TV and the furniture it was on, and SOMEONE ELSE recognized the sheets (maybe Stephanie Allen - can you imagine the horror???).
ErraticMuse
09-29-2007, 02:54 PM
Hello, I'm a long time lurker and finally decided to register. First I want to say how impressed I am with all the posters and how they worked so hard to do what they could to help find this little girl.
As for the whereabouts of Chester Stiles, someone posted that he was born in Jefferson county Kentucky, which is Louisville Kentucky, about an hour and a half away from Cincinnati. Chances are he may still have family ties to the Louisville area and may be headed in that direction as it's a fairly large metropolitan area where he could blend in and hope to fade in to the background for a while.
Regardless, I do think he'll be caught in short time since this little girl has captured the heart of everyone and has made the capture of Chester Stiles a very personal matter.
Shamrock
09-29-2007, 03:09 PM
Okay, I've been reading and reading, trying to get caught up. Here are my questions:
1. Do we know who Stephanie Allen is at all or why her name was brought up at the presser?
2. Well okay, I had another question but I forgot it already. :)
docwho3
09-29-2007, 03:13 PM
I just watched the news and I thought I heard them say that authorities are also looking for tuck again. Seems he was released somehow or other. Please tell me they didn't mess up and let him out to be on the lam again. . . . .unless they tied a string to him to see if he leads them to stiles.
mysteriew
09-29-2007, 03:18 PM
LOL Shamrock, you sound like me.
I think it is important to remember. Stiles has bragged about being a survivalist. Which means that if he feels he is in a 'safe' situation he might stay. In other words if he is with family and friends who he feels will keep his secret, he will try to go on without letting on about what is happening in his life. Though he may start watching the news more or seem nervous about strangers.
If Stiles is not among friends that he thinks will hide him however, he may go underground. He may think he can live on the land. But most survivalists soon find that at some point they do need money. And living in the wilds soon gets old.
In Kentucky and surrounding areas, there are many 'survivalist camps'. There are others in different parts of the country and sometimes they maintain contact with each other. Think Terry McNichols and McVey. If he takes refuge in something like that it could take a long time to find him.
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 03:19 PM
This article has a lot of information:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/10126486.html
From your link, Thanks.
Stiles has lived in Pahrump, but his most recent address was in Las Vegas and he was last seen in Las Vegas two weeks ago, Boruchowitz said.
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 03:22 PM
I got the impression that the mom recognized the TV and the furniture it was on, and SOMEONE ELSE recognized the sheets (maybe Stephanie Allen - can you imagine the horror???).
I got a different impression. I thought they were speaking of the 13 year old girls mom. The one where he videotaped her through her window. It is my understanding that "m's" mom had no clue until she was called by the tipster and LE.
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 03:23 PM
[quote=ErraticMuse;1707405]Hello, I'm a long time lurker and finally decided to register. quote]
Welcome to WS!!!:blowkiss:
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 03:26 PM
now i am confused.
Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.
"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.
http://lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733
Thanks for that transcript. So ole Darren Tuck failed his poly - now there's a big surprise.
Jaded
09-29-2007, 03:33 PM
now i am confused.
Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.
"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.
http://lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733
I'm wondering if this didn't possibly happen at a friend's home or a sitter, and that's how she recognized the furniture.
angelmom
09-29-2007, 03:38 PM
I got a different impression. I thought they were speaking of the 13 year old girls mom. The one where he videotaped her through her window. It is my understanding that "m's" mom had no clue until she was called by the tipster and LE.
now i am confused.
Detective Dave Boruchowitz said both the girl and mother cried as they talked. He says the sexual assault happened in Las Vegas.
"In fact, the mother actually recognized the furniture, recognized the TV," Sheriff DeMeo continued.
http://lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7141733
Indy, I think it means the mom recognized the furniture AFTER she was found and shown the tape.
Can you imagine the horror? She had to be sitting there praying that they had the wrong family, that this was just a terrible mistake. She must have been so sure that she would have known, that the police must be overreacting to what they saw. I cannot imagine having to sit there and identify your child on that type of tape...and watch the things that happened to her. How do you get those images out of your mind?
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 03:44 PM
Angel, I didnt think of that. Thank you so much. Makes a lot of sense now. I couldnt imagine either. Here is what seems a happy family and then bam their whole world comes down. I hope the media respects their wishes to be private at this time. Although I believe in time that mom will speak out. In a way I hope he is not found/taken in alive. I only say this so our little girl wont have to relive what happened to her in a court.
SeriouslySearching
09-29-2007, 03:51 PM
According to the Sheriff, the mother did not watch the tape so I would have to assume she was shown the still photos in order to verify those things. Thank goodness.
We need to concentrate on putting Stiles behind bars. Let's research every single person in HIS life to find him. We already know his family tipped him off before and as far as I am concerned, this means his family is open to our intensive scrutiny now...along with any and all of his friends. Someone knows where this POS is and isn't turning him in to LE. Let's turn over every slimey stone to bring this slug to justice for what he has done and could continue to be doing to someone else's child! Until he is behind bars, he is still a real danger.
angelmom
09-29-2007, 03:54 PM
This link is by the same Anglea trying to find Stiles in 2003...she seemed to think he had been in Okinawa.
http://www.gisearch.com/lostfound/ldM.16.0.11557/
I would like to know if he really ever was a GI. They need to find this Angela and figure out what she knows.
mrs.kravitz
09-29-2007, 04:07 PM
I am so sick of looking at his stupid face. I figure he'll kill himself (which is fine by me) rather than face up to what he did. Can you imagine how many Madison's he has hurt in the last 4 years. Someone that sick & sadistic has surely left a trail of misery. Man, I hope he's caught soon.
dee10134
09-29-2007, 04:12 PM
It is certainly worth looking at but I think the level of heat is much higher now than before and so they must know L.E., probably including some feds, are going to be all over this one and he is not going to be allowed to hide under the family bed, but that's just my opinion. I hope they get him soon wherever he is.
He was born 9/14/70 in Kentucky. He has to have family somewhere in KY. He may be in KY or on the way there... Maybe in one of the Mississippi River states? IDK...
Reannan
09-29-2007, 04:22 PM
I think LE needs to look up his old military buddies. He may stay away from family for a while because the knows they are in the hot seat. Do we know where he was stationed, and any details about his military career? Where is Nurse Becky these days - she would be tremendously helpful.
dee10134
09-29-2007, 04:37 PM
Kentucky Birth Index:
Chester Arthur Stiles
DOB 9/14/1970 Jefferson County, Kentucky
Mother: Sandra L Cooke
Register Date: 9/18/1970
Volume No.: 080
Certificate No.: 39695
Volume Year: 1970
Marriage record for father...
Kentucky Marriage Index:
Groom: Chester Stiles
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: 1951
Marriage Date: 3/9/1990
Marital Status: Last marriage ended by divorce
Previous Marital Status: Never married
Residence County: Jefferson
Residence County after married: Jefferson
State: Kentucky
Spouse: Diane Young
Spouse Age: 35
Spouce residence county: Jefferson
Spouse Marital Status: Never Married
Volume Number: 011
Certificate Number: 05068
Marriage License County: Franklin
Volume Year: 1990
Death record for father...
Kentucky Death Index:
Chester A Stiles
Death Date: 12/29/1995
Death Place: LOUISVILLE
Age: 45
Residence: Oldham
Volume : 74
Certificate: 36701
This information leads me to believe our perp is a JR. I'm leaning towards Chester Stiles SR. and Sandra L. Cooke as being his parents. They divorced, then Chester SR marries Diane Young in 1990.
U.S. Public Records Index (1984-present):
Chester Stiles <<<---------------I THINK THIS IS HIM!
4550 Karen Ave
Las Vegas, NV 89121
County: Clark
Phone: 702 (the rest is not there)
Record No: 202680961
Chester Stiles <--Lived there from 1994-2002
37509 New Inn Ln
Zephyrhills, FL 33541
County: Pasco
Phone: 813-788-1191
Record No: 80906016
Household Members: Chester E Stiles, Est Age 96, Birth Year 1910 (Possible Grandfather???)
Chester Stiles
Haskell, OK 74436
County: Muskogee
Phone: 918-482-3627
Record No: 149776600
U.S. Phone and Addres Directories, 1993-2002:
Chester Stiles
6956 Appleton Dr
Las Vegas, NV 89115-6124
Phone: 702-452-8602
Residence Years: 1995 1996 1997
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 04:40 PM
I posted earlier that I had found a Chester Stiles, Jr. on a website for motocross (thinking about Tuck connection) but it says the motocross was in New Hampshire and I also found an obituary for a Chester Stiles in NH. I'm confused. Could this be the same guy?
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 04:41 PM
http://www.whowon.com/Points.asp?TrackID=1080
Here's the link to it. Wouldn't LE say "Chester Stiles, JR" if he were a junior?
dee10134
09-29-2007, 04:44 PM
Info on possible father...
Kentucky Birth Index:
Chester A Stiles
DOB 4/7/1950 in Jefferson County, Kentucky
Mother's Name: Doris Hartlage
Vol No: 046
Certificate No: 22720
Volume Year: 1950
dee10134
09-29-2007, 04:45 PM
http://www.whowon.com/Points.asp?TrackID=1080
Here's the link to it. Wouldn't LE say "Chester Stiles, JR" if he were a junior?
Maybe LE's not aware of it??? Maybe he didn't use JR on any identifying information...
My brother is the third Joseph, but he doesn't go by Joseph III on legal documents... My dad didn't use JR on his documents either... Just a thought...
dee10134
09-29-2007, 04:53 PM
I posted earlier that I had found a Chester Stiles, Jr. on a website for motocross (thinking about Tuck connection) but it says the motocross was in New Hampshire and I also found an obituary for a Chester Stiles in NH. I'm confused. Could this be the same guy?
Chet Stiles, Jr. in NH is 67 years old: Showing his experience in style, 67 year young Chet Stiles, Jr. won the Beacon Motel Strictly Street feature, his third of the season. Stiles battled early race leader Bernie Langtange on the outside for ten laps, finally taking the lead for good on lap 14 of the 20 lap show, never looking back. Points leader Randy Dockham finished in third while Doug Laleme, who had nearly destroyed his car in practice laps, made a hard charge from the rear of the field for the fourth spot, keeping him in the points hunt. Bryan Langtagne rounded out the top five with a solid run.
Cached Version: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:fXrd9M2TX4sJ:www.whowon.com/RF_Results.asp%3FTrackID%3D1080%26StoryID%3D10714+ %22chet+stiles%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us&client=firefox-a
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 04:54 PM
Did you look at the link Dee? I'm not in to racing so I went back and Chet Stiles Sr. was involved in stock car racing. So I'm thinking this was stock car and not motocross. I could be wrong. LE didn't say he was involved in stock car racing. I don't think this is the guy.
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 04:55 PM
http://www.whowon.com/Points.asp?TrackID=1080
Here's the link to it. Wouldn't LE say "Chester Stiles, JR" if he were a junior?
Please see link for photos of the Chester Stiles Jr. I found which is a much older man than the 'perp'.
http://www.geocities.com/thejobo2002/photospg4.html
lizzybeth
09-29-2007, 05:00 PM
You're right Tom'sGirl it isn't him. Even if it was that site wouldn't help us know where he is now.
jilly
09-29-2007, 05:18 PM
Hello, I'm a long time lurker and finally decided to register. First I want to say how impressed I am with all the posters and how they worked so hard to do what they could to help find this little girl.
As for the whereabouts of Chester Stiles, someone posted that he was born in Jefferson county Kentucky, which is Louisville Kentucky, about an hour and a half away from Cincinnati. Chances are he may still have family ties to the Louisville area and may be headed in that direction as it's a fairly large metropolitan area where he could blend in and hope to fade in to the background for a while.
Regardless, I do think he'll be caught in short time since this little girl has captured the heart of everyone and has made the capture of Chester Stiles a very personal matter.
Welcome ErraticMuse! Good post and I agree - I think he'll be caught very soon.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 05:26 PM
He was last seen in Las Vegas 2 weeks ago and then took off again. Police I beleive got that info from a friend. The police also beleive he is possibly in So Cal...maybe this friend heard him speak of that.
Stephanie Allen is a Las Vegas attorney..I think she very well may be Little "M"'s mother. Or the attorney for the family. She is the one reporters remarked that police had spoken with and been to her house Friday. I would certainlly call a lawyer if something like this happened.
But I just can't help but think she may be the child's mother.
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 05:27 PM
Toms Girl
Do you have anything on a Stiles out there in Cali that you can find?
Maybe a service record or the naval bases in SO Cal
Greywing
09-29-2007, 05:45 PM
Hello, I'm a long time lurker and finally decided to register. First I want to say how impressed I am with all the posters and how they worked so hard to do what they could to help find this little girl.
As for the whereabouts of Chester Stiles, someone posted that he was born in Jefferson county Kentucky, which is Louisville Kentucky, about an hour and a half away from Cincinnati. Chances are he may still have family ties to the Louisville area and may be headed in that direction as it's a fairly large metropolitan area where he could blend in and hope to fade in to the background for a while.
Regardless, I do think he'll be caught in short time since this little girl has captured the heart of everyone and has made the capture of Chester Stiles a very personal matter.
Welcome to the forum ErraticMuse :blowkiss: . As a very long time lurker I can tell you sometimes things get moving fast and furious around here and everyone scurries to catch up with the news ....
Reannan
09-29-2007, 05:47 PM
I think Stephanie Allen is the attorney who first implicated CAS to LE.
The snip below is from the excellent link which was posted by SewingDeb
http://www.lvrj.com/news/10126486.html (http://www.lvrj.com/news/10126486.html)
"LE became aware of CAS when a Las Vegas attorney notified them that a client had told the attorney that he was “110 percent positive Stiles was the man on the videotape.”
I am have put together a summary of information we currently, KNOW about the case, and will post it next. If we are not sure about something, I have labeled it as "rumor".
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 05:49 PM
If he went to SO Cal or even into suvivialist mode I'm thinking he may have shaved the mustache or grown a full beard and possibly either shaved or buzzed his hair. With no facial hair and a buzzed head he might not stand out too much in places around naval bases.
Does anyone here know how to do composites from his pictures with his head buzzed no mustache and then full beard and head shaved? We need to try to picture him differently incase he has tried to change his looks.
Reannan
09-29-2007, 05:50 PM
Chester “Chet” Arthur Stiles (37 years old)
Background
B/D 9/14/1970 – Born in Kentucky
Mother: Sandra L. Cooke
Father: Chester Stiles – born April 7, 1950 (39 at time of marriage to the mother)
Father appears to have divorced CAS’s mother, and remarried in 1990.
Stepmom: Diane Young
Father died 12/15/1995 at age of 45
Parents were residents of Jefferson County Kentucky at time of marriage.
Has lived in Pahrump, Nevada
Most recent address was in Las Vegas
Last seen in Las Vegas two weeks ago.
Former animal trainer for illusionist Siegfried & Roy
RUMOR: Past experience as Navy Seal
RUMOR: martial artist
RUMOR: doesn’t gamble or drink
RUMOR: always carries a knife with him
RUMOR: has told people he would never be taken alive.
RUMOR: May currently be in Southern California due to recent warrant
Left Las Vegas to avoid apprehension after being warned by family.
RUMOR: Stiles is paranoid.
Current Crime Facts
Victim (“Madison”) was 3 years old when assault occurred.
Assault occurred in Las Vegas in 2003.
CAS does not appear to be related to the family of the assault, but is a friend of the family “several tier’s away”.
Assault was recorded on videotape OVER a segment of peeping tom footage of another 11 year old girl.
The peeping tom incident with the older girl was in October, 2005.
LE became aware of CAS when a Las Vegas attorney notified them that a client had told the attorney that HE was “110 percent positive Stiles was the man on the videotape.” This tip occurred within 30 minutes of the name of the victim being aired.
Tips have also come in from prison inmates.
Pending charges upon arrest include:
Sexual assault of a minor
Lewd behavior with a minor
Possibly kidnapping
Victim’s mother was unaware of her child having been abused.
Victim’s mother was unaware of the media attention and had not seen the news.
Victim’s mother became aware of situation when the mother of one of “M”’s playmates called and told her “your daughter is on TV.”
Victim’s mother was attempting to contact Nye County LE while they were trying to contact her.
Det. Boruchowitz traveled to the Las Vegas home and spoke with both the girl and her mother.
Mother recognized the TV on the video.
Additional Criminal History
Outstanding warrant for lewdness with a child (wanted in Las Vegas)
The other crime victim was a 6 year old girl who told authorities about the assault that occurred on or about 12/13/2003.
4/26/2004 - Arrest warrant issued for the 12/13/03 assault. CAS fled when he learned of his arrest warrant.
CAS has been arrested by Las Vegas police at least five times between 2001 and 2003.o 04/2003 - Conspiracy to Commit Grand Larceny Auto
o 06/1999 - Possession of an Unregistered Firearm, Resisting a Police Officer, Obstructing a Police Officer, Assault with a Deadly Weapon and Battery Domestic Violence.
o 06/1999 - Aiming a firearm
o 02/2001 - Probation Violation - C.C.W., Battery-Domestic Violence, False Information to a Police Officer, Resisting a Public Officer, Battery by a Prisoner (2 CTS)
o 02/2001 - Contempt of Court
o 04/2001 - Grand Larceny and Auto Burglary
o 05/2001 - Leaving the Scene of an Accident
Additional Characters Involved
Darren Tuck
26 years old
Resident of Pahrump, also parents (dad & step-mother) live in Pahrump.
Turned video over to NyeCounty officials on Sept. 8, 2007 after another man reported seeing it.
Arrested on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child porn.
Released without bail pending an appearance Nov. 26 in Pahrump Justice Court.
LE plans to arrest Tuck for violating probation relating to unpaid child support case.
Told LE he found the tape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago.
He said he waited to show LE the video because he was “scared”.
Tuck’s lawyer is Tom Gibson
Tuck failed a lie detector test on Friday, September 28, 2007.
Stephanie Allen
Name mentioned by two reporters during 9/28/07 press conference
RUMOR: Attorney in Las Vegas
Reannan
09-29-2007, 05:55 PM
If anyone has any other facts that they feel are significant, send them this way. I am saving all of this in a MS Word document that I can refer back to, and post occasionally as we need the information. This sort of case gets so complicated with rumors, names, places, etc. that it gets hard to keep straight who is who, and when what happened! :crazy:
Reannan
09-29-2007, 05:56 PM
Oh, yea....a big SHOUT OUT to Dee10134. All of that background from over at post #121 will be very helpful. Nice job!!!
Cherlee
09-29-2007, 05:57 PM
Wow!! Thank you! Awesome work Reannon!!
:blowkiss:
DeltaDawn
09-29-2007, 05:58 PM
Great job Reannan. Thank you so much for putting this info all in one spot.
One correction though. If his father was born in 1951 he would have been 44 when he died if I did the math right.
Reannan
09-29-2007, 06:09 PM
Great job Reannan. Thank you so much for putting this info all in one spot.
One correction though. If his father was born in 1951 he would have been 44 when he died if I did the math right.
You're right!! I wonder if the 1995 death was actually the grandfather, who was 74??? Dee10134, any ideas??? I will wait a bit to see if we can get this cleared up, and then I will go back and edit the posting of the information summary.
Busylady
09-29-2007, 06:36 PM
I am not convinced that Stephanie Allen is the attorney from Nevada, there appears to be several Stephanie Allen's one with recent criminal history. If I am remembering correctly why would the detectives go to Stephanie Allen's house twice to speak with her if she was just an attorney that provided a tip, something tells me she fits into this picture some other way. The other thing is, I can understand Sr and Jr not being used on certain things, but the birth index, marriage index, and social security index do not indicate Jr. or Sr. at all? I wish Kentucky had marriage records for the 1970 time period so we could see who the mom Sandra Cooke did marry which would help confirm who his father is.
You did a great job listing all the details in one post that makes it so much easier to follow!!!!
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 06:36 PM
Wow!! Thank you! Awesome work Reannon!!
:blowkiss:
I agree. Very organized and a great reference!
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 06:38 PM
If he went to SO Cal or even into suvivialist mode I'm thinking he may have shaved the mustache or grown a full beard and possibly either shaved or buzzed his hair. With no facial hair and a buzzed head he might not stand out too much in places around naval bases.
Does anyone here know how to do composites from his pictures with his head buzzed no mustache and then full beard and head shaved? We need to try to picture him differently incase he has tried to change his looks.
Siesie has done this before, maybe she will help us out again. I bugged her last time so who wants to do it this time.;)
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 06:39 PM
Reannan, Great job honey!!!!!!
snarkymalarkey
09-29-2007, 06:43 PM
This link is by the same Anglea trying to find Stiles in 2003...she seemed to think he had been in Okinawa.
http://www.gisearch.com/lostfound/ldM.16.0.11557/
I would like to know if he really ever was a GI. They need to find this Angela and figure out what she knows.
I googled the email she gave and was lead to this... it seems to be from 2002, and she's referenced as Paige... an escort service? Is this site for real??
http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3831
Busylady
09-29-2007, 06:45 PM
SS death index list - C.A. Stiles as follows
C. A. Stiles
SSN -403-72-0411
Born - April 7, 1950
Died - December 15, 1995
SSN Issued Kentucky 1966
Birth Index
Chester A. Stiles
Born - April 7, 1950
County - Jefferson, Kentucky
Mother - Doris Hartlage
So if this is Chester Stiles father he did die at the age of 45
teedie2
09-29-2007, 06:46 PM
They said on the PC that this man was not a "caregiver". He was a several tiered friend. ie: friend of a friend of a friend......
They said that the friend of a friend of a friend was a male? I missed that. Well, I mean, the male perp was a friend of a male who was a friend, and not a friend of a female?
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 06:51 PM
Chester “Chet” Arthur Stiles (34 years old) 37 years old
Additional Criminal History
Outstanding warrant for lewdness with a child (wanted in Las Vegas)
The other crime victim was a 6 year old girl who told authorities about the assault that occurred on or about 12/13/2003.
The other assault occurred on April 26, 2004. (not another assault)
On April 26, 2004 an arrest warrant was issued for those charges, i.e. 12/13/03/however he fled when he learned of his arrest warrant.Darren Tuck
26 years old
Resident of Pahrump, also parents (dad & step-mother) live in Pahrump
Turned video over to NyeCounty officials on Sept. 8, 2007 after another man reported seeing it.
Arrested on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child porn.
Released without bail pending an appearance Nov. 26 in Pahrump Justice Court.
LE plans to arrest Tuck for violating probation relating to unpaid child support case.
Told LE he found the tape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago.
He said he waited to show LE the video because he was “scared”.
Tuck’s lawyer is Tom Gibson
Tuck failed a lie detector test on Friday, September 28, 2007.
SewingDeb
09-29-2007, 06:51 PM
They said that the friend of a friend of a friend was a male? I missed that. Well, I mean, the male perp was a friend of a male who was a friend, and not a friend of a female?
Teedie,
I don't think they identified the gender of the people Chester was friends with. Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 06:52 PM
Teedie,
I don't think they identified the gender of the people Chester was friends with. Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
You're correct SD
CaliKid
09-29-2007, 06:56 PM
Chester “Chet” Arthur Stiles (34 years old) 37 years old
Additional Criminal History
Outstanding warrant for lewdness with a child (wanted in Las Vegas)
The other crime victim was a 6 year old girl who told authorities about the assault that occurred on or about 12/13/2003.
The other assault occurred on April 26, 2004. (not another assault)
On April 26, 2004 an arrest warrant was issued for those charges, i.e. 12/13/03/however he fled when he learned of his arrest warrant.Darren Tuck
26 years old
Resident of Pahrump, also parents (dad & step-mother) live in Pahrump
Turned video over to NyeCounty officials on Sept. 8, 2007 after another man reported seeing it.
Arrested on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child porn.
Released without bail pending an appearance Nov. 26 in Pahrump Justice Court.
LE plans to arrest Tuck for violating probation relating to unpaid child support case.
Told LE he found the tape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago.
He said he waited to show LE the video because he was “scared”.
Tuck’s lawyer is Tom Gibson
Tuck failed a lie detector test on Friday, September 28, 2007.
Does anyone else get the feeling that Darren Tuck was a pedophile-in-training? As in, maybe he hadn't victimized any children yet but was heading in that direction?
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 06:57 PM
Toms Girl
Do you have anything on a Stiles out there in Cali that you can find?
Maybe a service record or the naval bases in SO Cal
Oh believe me, I'm checking on it DD ;)
Reannan
09-29-2007, 07:01 PM
SS death index list - C.A. Stiles as follows
C. A. Stiles
SSN -403-72-0411
Born - April 7, 1950
Died - December 15, 1995
SSN Issued Kentucky 1966
So if this is Chester Stiles father he did die at the age of 45
I have edited the post so that it reflects what you have found, and seems to be fact! I wonder if he had a grandfather that died at the age of 74? That information came from a news article. Just goes to show, you can't believe everything you read! :banghead: That is why I need a list of what IS known.
adnoid
09-29-2007, 07:07 PM
He claims to be a Navy Seal, a martial artist, doesn't gamble or drink. Has told an aquaintance he would never be taken alive...
I'm armed as well. I'd just give him a severe case of lead poisoning in his groin area and let him bleed out a little before I called 911. Assuming I could remember the number.
SieSie
09-29-2007, 07:13 PM
Snipped...I am so sick of looking at his stupid face.
You and me both!! :furious: I deleted all my pictures of Madison that I put on my MySpace, and I also deleted her pictures from my computer, but now I'm working on this p.o.s's pics to keep his face out there. ICK.
I will admit that I'm not good with faces - I can't believe how wrong I was about his appearance from the video - you could've shown me his picture and I'd have said, "no way, next perp..." - and, I was 99% sure it was Anders, too! :doh: Guess that's why I'm not in LE. LOL.
I think he will be able to change his appearance easily with dying his hair to blonde, and adding a full beard & moustache to hide his gaunt cheeks.
I also wonder about the one pic where his face is messed up - is that like the meth users or is that from a fist-fight??
adnoid
09-29-2007, 07:22 PM
http://www.whowon.com/Points.asp?TrackID=1080
Here's the link to it. Wouldn't LE say "Chester Stiles, JR" if he were a junior?
I'm a "Jr" but seldom use it, and not all my public records show it.
That SOB LOOKS like a child molester.
SieSie
09-29-2007, 07:35 PM
[B]Chester “Chet” Arthur Stiles (34 years old)
[FONT=Verdana]Background
[LIST]
B/D 9/14/1970 – Born in Kentucky
I'm no math wizard, but if he was born 9/14/70 and this is 2007 - wouldn't he just have turned 37, not 34??
Excellent info, Reannan - thanks so much!! :blowkiss:
SieSie
09-29-2007, 07:37 PM
Siesie has done this before, maybe she will help us out again. I bugged her last time so who wants to do it this time.;)
Still catching up on this thread, but will try to find that site I did the hairstyle changes for Madeleine and will work on this p.o.s. :furious: :mad: :razz: :behindbar: :sick:
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 08:08 PM
IF, in fact CAS was in the military, specifically the Navy, it could be related to him having connections out here in El Cajon which is near the Naval Facilities.
IF, in fact he was ever in ANY military branch of the services the Data Base would have him listed by SS#, name & date of birth.
IF, military records are now being researched since there is a Federal Warrant for CAS, they would have access/privy to this information.
Now we wait I guess for more info. to come forth on that part of it, to be confirmed, or not.
Cherlee
09-29-2007, 08:23 PM
I found this...
Sandra Stiles (MacNeilly)
Immaculate Heart of Mary School.. Chester, PA 1952-54
Chester High School, Chester PA, 1956-61
Could this be Chester's mom?
Cherlee
09-29-2007, 08:29 PM
Son maybe?? Got his name from Chester's family member names..
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=157177592
Taximom
09-29-2007, 08:34 PM
I can't wait till America's Most Wanted comes on. This should be the lead story.
Chet, your hours are NUMBERED.
Reannan
09-29-2007, 08:42 PM
Is Dog really going after him?
Tom'sGirl
09-29-2007, 08:48 PM
I found this...
Sandra Stiles (MacNeilly)
Immaculate Heart of Mary School.. Chester, PA 1952-54
Chester High School, Chester PA, 1956-61
Could this be Chester's mom?
LOL, and I found a Chester Stiles Jr. (Stiles) at Dalton Elementary School, Whitefield, NH, 1944-1948
Now I'm feeling sorry for anyone with the last name of Stiles.
Reannan
09-29-2007, 08:56 PM
Interesting:
"Cops say that Tuck has absconded from parole and is currently on the run. This information comes to AMW the day after Tuck's defense attorney told AMW that his client failed a polygraph test."
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=49286
These guys are nuts if they think they can avoid their fate.
ErraticMuse
09-29-2007, 09:01 PM
Since the claim of being a Navy Seal is often used by wannabes who want to impress or intimidate others, there is actually a site that will verify if someone really is or has been a Navy Seal. Of course, being at war, they have to be very cautious in what information they give out or to whom but I'd love to have them verify or deny Chester Arthur Styles claims of being a Navy Seal. The best part is that they have a section of all the impostors they've exposed as well.
According to a message board there is someone looking for a Chet Stiles who was stationed in Okinawa which is a huge Marine Corp base. There are Seals stationed there but my gut feeling is that Chet Stiles is a Seal wannabe because with all the psych evaluations and such that Seals are put through, I don't think he would have ever been chosen to be a Seal in the first place. I could be wrong but I would think there would be signs of a deviant personality that they would have picked up on before he made a lot of headway with the Seals.
http://veriseal.org/about.html
Jaded
09-29-2007, 09:03 PM
Did anyone watch the interview with Darrin Tuck on AMW's site?
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=49286
ErraticMuse
09-29-2007, 09:19 PM
Forgot to add in previous post, thanks for the 'Welcomes!'
Shamrock
09-29-2007, 09:23 PM
Interesting:
"Cops say that Tuck has absconded from parole and is currently on the run. This information comes to AMW the day after Tuck's defense attorney told AMW that his client failed a polygraph test."
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=49286
These guys are nuts if they think they can avoid their fate.
What a complete idiot!!! With all the press this is getting, do they really think they can get away?????
Cherlee
09-29-2007, 09:23 PM
Since the claim of being a Navy Seal is often used by wannabes who want to impress or intimidate others, there is actually a site that will verify if someone really is or has been a Navy Seal. Of course, being at war, they have to be very cautious in what information they give out or to whom but I'd love to have them verify or deny Chester Arthur Styles claims of being a Navy Seal. The best part is that they have a section of all the impostors they've exposed as well.
According to a message board there is someone looking for a Chet Stiles who was stationed in Okinawa which is a huge Marine Corp base. There are Seals stationed there but my gut feeling is that Chet Stiles is a Seal wannabe because with all the psych evaluations and such that Seals are put through, I don't think he would have ever been chosen to be a Seal in the first place. I could be wrong but I would think there would be signs of a deviant personality that they would have picked up on before he made a lot of headway with the Seals.
One of the Myspace pages I found with a possible family members name is ALL about Marines...but he hasn't logged on since July..
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 09:24 PM
Did anyone watch the interview with Darrin Tuck on AMW's site?
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=49286
Dont hate me but I think he may be telling the truth. He was angry, and I NEVER say that about a suspect. Maybe he failed polly as he came across it in burgerly??
ETA But I will still watch AMW and make sure I still feel the same!
Reannan
09-29-2007, 09:34 PM
Welcome, ErraticMuse! I hope AMW can verify CAS's military status for us tonight. Jaded, I watched that video, and thought it was a great piece to study a liar in action. Indy Gal, you think he isn't lying?? I guess the part that sort of proved it for me, was when he was asked about if he had watched the tape, and he said something to the effect of "only a few minutes of it". Yea, right. And monkey's might fly out my butt!!
P.S. Indy Gal, we would NEVER hate you!!!
Indy Gal
09-29-2007, 09:36 PM
Welcome, ErraticMuse! I hope AMW can verify CAS's military status for us tonight. Jaded, I watched that video, and thought it was a great piece to study a liar in action. Indy Gal, you think he isn't lying?? I guess the part that sort of proved it for me, was when he was asked about if he had watched the tape, and he said something to the effect of "only a few minutes of it". Yea, right. And monkey's might fly out my butt!!
P.S. Indy Gal, we would NEVER hate you!!!
Maybe i am trying this whole open to new ideas thing....LOL I dont know I will watch AMW and see if I feel the same.:blowkiss:
Cherlee
09-29-2007, 09:37 PM
yea, the only thing I think he's angry with is getting caught!
SieSie
09-29-2007, 09:39 PM
Okay, I found the site where you can change your hairstyles - it's Ladies Home Journal (http://www.lhj.com) - Try-a-Hairstyle. Problem is, I had paid for a 3 month subscription when I did Madeleine McCann's image and it ran out on 9/16. :doh:
You can register free and upload ONE photo, so I did that for Stiles, but there aren't many hairstyles to choose from (for the free trial thing) for men and there aren't any facial hair adjustments to choose from. I'm not going to pay again, especially without the beard & moustache options.
So, does anyone else have experience with photo programs and good enough at it to be able to "draw in" beards and goatees and stuff? If so, it would be helpful!! I'm not good at that kind of graphic work.
Anyway, here's one sample I've finished already (in between cooking dinner and doing laundry, etc...):
http://i23.tinypic.com/nldc9t.jpg
Shamrock
09-29-2007, 09:40 PM
Cherlee - I love your signature quote!!! HAHAHHAHAAA!!!
I'm trying to catch up on reading, I apologize if this has already been posted... I found a few Chester Stiles listed on military.com. Two with the middle name A. One was the marine corps and the other the navy.
Name : CHESTER A STILES Service : Navy S