Wanted-Chester Stiles-Video Taped rape of 3 yr old child! NV Thread 3

[Jeana (DP)]

Continue here please.

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Thanks.

[SewingDeb]

I don't have sound on my computer today for some reason, so I have not been able to hear the videos with his ex girlfriend. Seeing the home movies of him is creepy, especially the one with Stiles, ex and another girl in bed together. I assume that was a bed.

[Indiana at Heart]

I don't have sound on my computer today for some reason, so I have not been able to hear the videos with his ex girlfriend. Seeing the home movies of him is creepy, especially the one with Stiles, ex and another girl in bed together. I assume that was a bed.


Where did you see that one at!!!:mad:

[SewingDeb]

This one on CNN videos:
Suspect's girlfriend feels guilty 2:30

http://www.cnn.com/video/

It's right at the end.
ETA: I just watched it again, with no sound, and it's just past the middle.

[Indiana at Heart]

This one on CNN videos:
Suspect's girlfriend feels guilty 2:30

http://www.cnn.com/video/

It's right at the end.


Thanks Deb

[Taximom]

I don't have sound on my computer today for some reason, so I have not been able to hear the videos with his ex girlfriend. Seeing the home movies of him is creepy, especially the one with Stiles, ex and another girl in bed together. I assume that was a bed.

There's one shot there that looks like him from the nasty videotape, only he's got his sunglasses on. (I know it's not, it's just the same over the shoulder dark glare.)

Anyway, I was taking a look at that shot too, and thought maybe it was a blanket or the floor? It was hard to tell what they were laying on, but there were 3 people laying down. Him, Tina in the middle and someone on Tina's side. All I could think was thank goodness that other person (don't know who) wasn't next to him.

[Indiana at Heart]

I just watched it. To show him and two women in bed for the whole world too see. This just shows you what kind a guy this Chester is!:waitasec:

[SewingDeb]

YW Indiana.

Taximom, that's what I thought too. It looked like the other woman/teen was wearing a bra.

The over the shoulder glare creeped me out too. There's no doubt it's him!

[Liz]

Right after the commercial break (which is now), Fox news channel is supposed to have a segment on Stiles.

[LMax]

CNN is covering it now again.

[alpharee]

I just watched it. To show him and two women in bed for the whole world too see. This just shows you what kind a guy this Chester is!:waitasec:

it appeared to me they were on a blanket looking at the sky? Maybe it was a firework show or something? That's the first thing that popped in my head.

[alpharee]

YW Indiana.

Taximom, that's what I thought too. It looked like the other woman/teen was wearing a bra.

The over the shoulder glare creeped me out too. There's no doubt it's him!

I think she had on a swimsuit

[MsRusty]

Just caught the tail end of a report on MSNBC and they said they are canvassing the neighborhood door to door in areas where they've known Stiles to frequent.

I must admit although I've seen the videos posted of Tina's interviews, I wish they'd stay out of the limelight. They aren't really offering anything of value (at least not the ones I've seen so far) and I think the less they say and appear on tv the better for the little girl.

[Dryad]

Did anyone catch the end of the interview when the reporter stated that Tina said CAS had also "put on alot of weight...or muscle"....

I think that is something that needs to be noted. In all of his photos he is very thin. With the added weight and the longer hair she mentioned, he could look so different right now.

[SewingDeb]

Very good point Dryad.

Alpharee, I think you're right that it might be a swimsuit.

[angarella]

I don't have sound on my computer today for some reason, so I have not been able to hear the videos with his ex girlfriend. Seeing the home movies of him is creepy, especially the one with Stiles, ex and another girl in bed together. I assume that was a bed.

I saw it on CNN and I first thought they were in a bed together. But after looking at it again, it looks like they are all outside lying on a blanket???? Maybe a fireworks display or something. No pun intended. :D

ETA: Sorry alpharee. I posted my comment before I read yours. Great minds and all. LOL!

[angarella]

Did anyone catch the end of the interview when the reporter stated that Tina said CAS had also "put on alot of weight...or muscle"....

I think that is something that needs to be noted. In all of his photos he is very thin. With the added weight and the longer hair she mentioned, he could look so different right now.

Yeah, I heard that on CNN. She said that when she saw him last week that his hair was longer and he had put on wait and "bulked up" since the last time that she saw him.

[SuziQ]

Quotes by Todd Allen from the below linked article:

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7151278

(In reference to the April 2004 Charge)
I know of one other time that he (Stiles) was involved with something like that, and it was actually a friend of my mother's child," said Allen. "At that point in time, I didn't know whether to believe my mother or what was happening, but according to my mother it was a false report made that he was left alone with the child."

"I took to what she said to me that it was false and it never happened and that he was never left alone with the kids. However at the time they were together over at the house watching the children and according to my mother, they took a nap, and that's when it happened to another child. As far as it goes with this little girl, I believe something similar may have happened," said Allen.

(In reference to the April 2004 Charge and "M")
Allen says Stiles got into the home because he would come over and visit with Allen's mother. He says he can't be too sure how or when the abuse occurred. He also says Darrin Tuck looks familiar, but he can't be sure if he has seen him with Stiles. Tuck is the man who claims to have found the tape in the desert.

******
Tina is full of crap.

[alpharee]

I saw it on CNN and I first thought they were in a bed together. But after looking at it again, it looks like they are all outside lying on a blanket???? Maybe a fireworks display or something. No pun intended. :D

ETA: Sorry alpharee. I posted my comment before I read yours. Great minds and all. LOL!

yup you're right, great minds think alike :)

[SuziQ]

Just caught the tail end of a report on MSNBC and they said they are canvassing the neighborhood door to door in areas where they've known Stiles to frequent.

I must admit although I've seen the videos posted of Tina's interviews, I wish they'd stay out of the limelight. They aren't really offering anything of value (at least not the ones I've seen so far) and I think the less they say and appear on tv the better for the little girl.

But the good side is, is that Tina is recording her own contradictions. She's hanging herself on National TV. She's another Wanda Barzee.

[Shamrock]

I also agree that Tina and Todd should stay out of the media. What do they have to add that could be of help?? Okay, so Stiles hair is longer and he's bulked up. She can tell the police that and they can relay this information to the public.

[angarella]

I have my own doubts about Tina and her "decisions" in life. Does anyone perhaps thinks that the creep could have drugged Tina and "got her out of the way" to make the video.

Just a random though.

[TGIRecovered]

Considering the abuse this guy got awat with while Tina was with him, I would be surprized if Tina's now grown children were not sexually abused as children.
I believe that a woman who continues to be involved with a man who lives this type of lifestye has probably lived this way in the past. You don't spend 15-20 years being an aware, responsible parent and then suddenly turn stupid. It is much easier to go from foolish to wise if you learn from your mistakes, but the way she is making excuses for him now, I doubt she was ever protective of her children, or anyone else's.

Sorry, but this is what I see, based upon what we know so far. I think she knew he was messing with kids and helped him get close enough to his victim's families to have access to the children. Imagine how much harder it would be for him to have that kind of access to young children without a "girlfriend" to make him appear harmless. She was willing to let him use her to get to the little girls, as long as he would continue to be her boyfriend.
JMO

Susan

[Reannan]

I think the teenager in the video on the blanket is probably Stephanie. She was too old for CAS's taste. :sick: I would like to make a quick comment to those who are concerned with investigating the Allen family, and with posting "M"'s name. First, I think "M"'s name (I can't bring myself to post it.....:() is really fair game for posting.....at least her first name. Definitely NOT her last name. I am not going to post it yet, because the wound is still raw. The fact is, her first name is now part of history. It is documented in too many sources to ever be erased from the public domain. It is like trying to put the nuclear genie back in the bottle. You can't. As time begins to smooth the raw edges of this case, it will become part of the public record. I hope her last name remains sacred and hidden forever. God bless that little girl. Secondly, regarding the Allen family: They are key to finding CAS, and therefore, they are fair game. In fact, I think Christine should send the links we have found to LE. I am sure they know a lot of this stuff, but they may not have had time or the resources to look into the past journal entires of the innocent people caught in the crossfire of this case. If you overlay what was posted in journal entries back in 2004 with what is being said today.....someone is not telling the truth....namely, Tina. She may be one of those people who is capable of hiding the truth even from themselves, and is in such denial about the true nature of CAS that he can do no wrong in her eyes. This is a dangerous combination. You have a woman who has "stuck by her man" through his past evil deeds, and a man who is "capable of violence", and "will never be taken alive". The 30,000 foot view of this case looks very ominous as to the final conclusion. Bonnie and Clyde comes to my mind. I am going to post an updated summary of what we know about the case. I have been modifying, adding, and deleting information as it becomes available and clear (thanks to many of you here). If anyone has anything to add, change, or delete, "SNIP" that part and repost, or PM me (don't quote the entire thing). If the mod's think the post of the summary is too long, let me know and I will delete it. I find it helpful to view everything in it's entirety and there are so many facts and people it is just confusing.

[Jaded]

I agree - she's full of it. And if she saw him just a few weeks ago to chat, why didn't she call LE on him? Didn't he have a warrant in force at that time?

[Indiana at Heart]

I agree - she's full of it. And if she saw him just a few weeks ago to chat, why didn't she call LE on him? Didn't he have a warrant in force at that time?


Yes he did since Dec 13, 2006 and I'm sure they talked to her back then too

[MsPooh]

I do not believe for a minute that Chet just happened to show up, this woman has a way of getting in touch with him...I mean they have known each other for at least 3 years now. I hardly believe she just sits around and waits until he blows through town to see him. But the LE on this case are some of the best that I have seen in a very long time..I feel that they are giving her whatever rope she needs to move a bit, but yet keeping a very tight leash on her.

[Jaded]

I have my own doubts about Tina and her "decisions" in life. Does anyone perhaps thinks that the creep could have drugged Tina and "got her out of the way" to make the video.

Just a random though.

...or she was in the home. Maybe he went to take a "nap" as he did with the first child. IMO, Tina didn't believe CAS was capable of these acts because she continued to stay with him even after the allegations.

Yes he did since Dec 13, 2006 and I'm sure they talked to her back then too

IMO, she should be charged with aiding and abetting a felon. She knew he had a warrant and yet chatted it up with him. Haul her in. She knows where he's at.

[SuziQ]

Reannan, I love your synopsis. It really helps keep track of information. I've referred to it quite often.

[SuziQ]

It's obvious to me that Stiles was comfortable with the "situation" enough to commit sex abuse on at least two occasions and take the time to set up a tripod. Why did he feel so confident? I do not buy that grandma was taking a nap when the first incident happened or the second one. Otherwise Stiles would not have felt he would have had enough time to set up the scene without being walked in on.

[Lola]

So, Stephanie Allen must be her daughter.

She last saw him in August before this came to public attention.

[DeltaDawn]

I agree that Tina is definitely lying ...and with no shame, right on national tv. She told the GMC reporter she hadn't seen CAS since August. Then she tells CNN she saw him last week.
The federal arrest warrant for the 2003 incident with the 6 year old was signed in July. Is she trying to get out of that deal too. We know from Todd's journal that she was aware of that incident. Then she says that she never suspected anything....common on..she's in this up to her eyebrows and is now trying to lie her way out of...unfortunately for her she can't keep her lies straight.....and the nice famliy man that's violent..give me a frigging break!!

[Reannan]

Chester “Chet” Arthur Stiles (37 years old)
Background

B/D 9/14/1970 – Born in Kentucky
Mother: Sandra L. Cooke
Father: Chester Stiles – born April 7, 1950 (39 at time of marriage to the mother)
Father appears to have divorced CAS’s mother, remarried in 1990.
Stepmom: Diane Young
Father died 12/15/1995 at age of 45
Parents; residents of Jefferson County Kentucky at time of marriage.
Has lived in Pahrump, Nevada
Most recent address was in Las Vegas
Last seen in Las Vegas two weeks ago (as of 9/29/07). RUMOR: 1 week ago per Todd Allen; In August, 07 AND 1 week ago per Tina Allen (two difference Tina Allen interviews).
Former animal trainer for illusionist Siegfried & Roy
RUMOR: Past Navy Seal
RUMOR: martial artist
RUMOR: doesn’t gamble or drink
RUMOR: always carries a knife with him
RUMOR: has told people he would never be taken alive.
RUMOR: May currently be in Southern California due to recent warrant
Left Las Vegas to avoid apprehension from unrelated warrant involving assault on 6 year old girl after being warned by family.
RUMOR: Stiles is paranoid.
RUMOR: Has a 16 year old son living in Clark County, Nevada. Child was born in Texas, where there are three other relatives living. Wishes this son had “been a girl” per 10/1/07 interview with Tina Allen.
RUMOR: Drives a truck
Also has addresses in Pact, FL; Darrouzett, TX,; Panama City, FL
IN 1993 and 1995, RESIDED AT: 9475 Roark Rd, #120
Houston, HarrisCounty, TX, USA, 77099
License number is 7689024
Also listed as residing at the 9475 Roark Rd. residence: Ayodeji, Grace J - She WAS BORN ON 01/08/1962
Address in Las Vegas, is also a daycare: Pearl's Daycare
702-431-3455 • 4550 Karen Ave, Las Vegas, NV89121
Current Crime Facts

Victim (“Madison”) was 3 years old when assault occurred.
Assault occurred in Las Vegas in 2003 in the apartment of Todd Allen. UPDATE: 9/30/07 – Tape created 2004 (possible erroneous news report).
CAS is not related to the family of the assault, but dated the mother (Tina Allen) of the best friend (Stephani Allen) of “M”’s mother. Stephani, “M”’s mother, and Todd Allen (brother of Stephani), lived together in the apartment where assault occurred.
Sheets on bed were recognized by Stephani Allen as belonging to “M”’s mother who lived at the apartment were the assault occurred. (per GMA interview with Tina Allen).
Assault was recorded on videotape OVER a segment of peeping tom footage of another 11 year old girl. (“M”’s assault = late 2003, early 2004; 11 year old footage = 2005)
The peeping tom incident with the older girl was in October, 2005.
LE became aware of CAS when a Las Vegas attorney notified them that a client had told the attorney that HE (Todd Allen???) was “110 percent positive Stiles was the man on the videotape.” This tip occurred within 30 minutes of the name of the victim being aired.
Tips have also come in from prison inmates.
Pending charges upon arrest include: - Sexual assault of a minor
- Lewd behavior with a minor
- Possibly kidnapping

Victim’s mother was unaware of her child having been abused.
Victim’s mother was unaware of the media attention and had not seen the news.
Victim’s mother became aware of situation when the mother of one of “M”’s playmates (Stephani Allen??) called and told her “your daughter is on TV.”
Victim’s mother was attempting to contact Nye County LE while they were trying to contact her.
Det. Boruchowitz traveled to the Las Vegas home and spoke with both the girl and her mother.
Mother recognized the TV on the video. Additional Criminal History

Outstanding warrant for lewdness with a child (wanted in Las Vegas)
The other crime victim was a 6 year old girl who told authorities about the assault that occurred on or about 12/13/2003.
4/26/2004 - Arrest warrant issued for the 12/13/03 assault. CAS fled when he learned of his arrest warrant. (Tina Allen also “vanished” during this time per greatestjournal.com entry by her son, Todd Allen).
The 2004 assault involved the 6 year old daughter of a friend of Tina Allen. Tina told Todd Allen, that it was false report. Tina was at the home when this assault occurred, and they had all “taken a nap”.
CAS has been arrested by Las Vegas police at least five times between 2001 and 2003.- 04/2003 - Conspiracy to Commit Grand Larceny Auto
- 06/1999 - Possession of an Unregistered Firearm, Resisting a Police Officer, Obstructing a Police Officer, Assault with a Deadly Weapon and Battery Domestic Violence.
- 06/1999 - Aiming a firearm
- 02/2001 - Probation Violation - C.C.W., Battery-Domestic Violence, False Information to a Police Officer, Resisting a Public Officer, Battery by a Prisoner (2 CTS)
- 02/2001 - Contempt of Court
- 04/2001 - Grand Larceny and Auto Burglary
- 05/2001 - Leaving the Scene of an Accident


Additional Characters Involved
Darren Tuck

26 years old
Resident of Pahrump, also parents (dad & step-mother) live in Pahrump. Turned video over to NyeCounty officials on Sept. 8, 2007 after another man reported seeing it.
Arrested on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child porn.
Released without bail pending an appearance Nov. 26 in Pahrump Justice Court.
LE plans to arrest Tuck for violating probation relating to unpaid child support case.
Told LE he found the tape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago.
He said he waited to show LE the video because he was “scared”.
Tuck’s lawyer is Tom Gibson
Tuck failed a lie detector test on Friday, September 28, 2007.
Listed on America’s Most Wanted as being a fugitive; September 29, 2007
Tuck was last seen Friday night 9/28/07) around 7:30 p.m. having dinner with his family at the Saddle West, a Pahrump restaurant and casino. He is believed to have fled the area, DeMeo said.
Tuck turns himself in to LE after two days on the run. Negotiated surrender through a family friend who is a bailiff. He was arrested immediately on probation violation for previous parole violation related to failure to pay child support. Currently held in NyeCounty jail on no-bail warrant. Sentencing will begin on 10/1/2007.
Stephani Lyn Allen

24 years old
Sister of Todd Allen, and daughter of Tina Allen. Tina dated CAS for 10 years. Best friends with “M”’s mother.
Lived in apartment with brother Todd, “M” and “M”’s mother. Todd and Stephani’s Mom would come over and babysit “M” and some other kids on occasion.
Recognized sheets on bed as hers, or possibly her friends – both statements were made in the same interview. Per 10/1/07 GMA interview with Tina Allen, the sheets belonged to “M”’s mother.
Was “shattered” in March 2004 because her mother had “vanished”. (per greatestjournal.com entry of Todd)
Todd Allen

Reported on CNN as having lived for a while with “M” and her mother.
RUMOR: Possible aka Nelson Johns, with Stephani Allen who have extensive criminal records in ClarkCounty.
Lived in the apartment where assault occurred. Mother dated CAS for 10 years.
Was aware of still open charges against CAS in 2004 regarding assault of 6 year old. Was unhappy with CAS, and said in a greatestjournal.com entry “i swear i’ll kill him if i ever see him”.
Was frustrated in March 2004 because his mother had “vanished”. His aunt and sister were “shattered” over this. (greatestjournal.com entry from March 2004.)
RUMOR: Dated the mother of “M”.
Tina L. Allen

Mother of Todd and Stephani Allen
Dated CAS for 10 years and were engaged to get married to CAS as of 2004. (greatestjournal.com entry from March 2004.)
Also has address listings for El Cajon, CA; Las Vegas, NV; Spring Valley, CA
Remained with CAS after charges were brought against him in 2004 for the alleged assault of 6 year old girl. (per greatestjournal.com posting by Todd)
Vanished as of March, 2004 and her family did not know where she was. Per greatestjournal.com entry of Todd from March 2004.
Last saw CAS in August, 2007 per interview with GMA. Stated he had longer hair in August than in pictures being shown. Also stated he was known to be “very violent”.
Ended relationship with CAS only a few months ago.
Claims CAS once hit her, but she did not file charges
Ayodeji, Grace J

Birthday: 1/08/1962
Listed as having resided at same residence as CAS during 1995 in Houston, TX
9475 Roark Rd, #120
Houston, Harris County, TX, USA,

[TGIRecovered]

So, Stephanie Allen must be her daughter.

She last saw him in August before this came to public attention.


How old is Stephanie Allen and how old would she have been when Tina first started seeing her boyfriend? I wonder aslo about any friends of Tina's children. Did they have sleepovers back then which would have given him access to more young girls?

Susan

[Al_B]

I believe Stephani's name has no e. Makes it a unique spelling as opposed to the other. Not starting anything either just pointing it out

[Reannan]

I believe Stephani's name has no e. Makes it a unique spelling as opposed to the other. Not starting anything either just pointing it out

Al, is this verified? I had 'Stephanie Lyn Allen' from a previous post. This is the sort of information that is critical for investigation because records and postings depend on correct information. Thanks in advance if you can clarify this.

[Lola]

Reannan...great synopsis!!

[TGIRecovered]

Thanks, Reannan!

I wonder if CAS may have started out molesting older girls and progressed to younger children because of their inability to coherently explain to their parents what he had done to them, and because it harder to prove what a younger child says is true. Pedos learn from their mistakes...problem is, they learn better ways to get away with it instead of growing a concience!

[DeltaDawn]

[quote=Reannan;1710887]Chester “Chet” Arthur Stiles (37 years old)
Background

Tina L. Allen

Last saw CAS in August, 2007 per interview with GMA. Reannan:
Tina stated in the CNN interview she just saw CAS last week.
Todd had also stated that in his first interview.

I think she is lying....

[momtoseven]

This may have already been mentioned so if it's old news please disregard:

LAS VEGAS -- As the search for Chester "Chet" Arthur Stiles, 37, continues, a man who knows Stiles and -- the toddler featured in a sexual assault tape -- is speaking out. Todd Allen said that while he was dating the victim's mother, Stiles was dating his mother. He said Stiles took off some time last week, just after the case surfaced in the media.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14241686/detail.html?rss=vegas&psp=news

[Busylady]

On court records her name has no e on it.

[DeltaDawn]

Reannan

Super super job on the timeline....thank lyou, thank you, thank you!

SIESIE HAS POSTED A THREAD FOR LINKS AND OTHER INFO..MAYBE THE TIMELINE SHOULD GO THERE.

[angarella]

My question is, what day last week did Tina see him? Was this possibly right before this story broke. Definitely not taking up for her. I don't know what to think about her at this point. Definitely guilty of staying with a creep even after she was aware of another case of sexual abuse against a child.

[TGIRecovered]

I'll bet Tina would spill all that she knows if LE would throw her in jail and charge her with aiding and abbeting.
Of course if they leave her out, she will probably end up re-connecting with CAS and they can follow her to him.

[Al_B]

Al, is this verified? I had 'Stephanie Lyn Allen' from a previous post. This is the sort of information that is critical for investigation because records and postings depend on correct information. Thanks in advance if you can clarify this.
Well, when you type it with the e on it you come up with several pages on myspace and none of them are on Todd or Tina's page without the e there are 3 and one is on their page

[Lola]

I'll bet Tina would spill all that she knows if LE would throw her in jail and charge her with aiding and abbeting.
Of course if they leave her out, she will probably end up re-connecting with CAS and they can follow her to him.

What the heck...is she that stupid? To lie on tape on two different stations on the same day??
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/rape.tape.girl/index.html


snip....Allen said Stiles stopped by her house last week for a friendly visit before his name was linked to the videotape. She said his appearance had changed. She said his hair was longer and he had put on weight.

[richandfamous]

Hey, I missed this link for greatestjournal.com entry by Todd...can someone repost it? thx

[Dryad]

Do we know if CAS was previously married? A young woman posted on another forum that her she had a childhood friend from Texas whose mother was married to CAS at one time when they were younger and he was this girl's step-father. The friend said CAS was "creepy as the day is long"..or something like that.

[Jaded]

I'll bet Tina would spill all that she knows if LE would throw her in jail and charge her with aiding and abbeting.
Of course if they leave her out, she will probably end up re-connecting with CAS and they can follow her to him.

If she didn't turn him in and he has a felony warrant from US Court for him - wouldn't they be able to charge her? I also want to know why no vehicle information has been released. I think it's imperative that people see the pictures plastered everywhere and a vehicle description.

[dee10134]

Quotes by Todd Allen from the below linked article:

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7151278

(In reference to the April 2004 Charge)
I know of one other time that he (Stiles) was involved with something like that, and it was actually a friend of my mother's child," said Allen. "At that point in time, I didn't know whether to believe my mother or what was happening, but according to my mother it was a false report made that he was left alone with the child."

"I took to what she said to me that it was false and it never happened and that he was never left alone with the kids. However at the time they were together over at the house watching the children and according to my mother, they took a nap, and that's when it happened to another child. As far as it goes with this little girl, I believe something similar may have happened," said Allen.

(In reference to the April 2004 Charge and "M")
Allen says Stiles got into the home because he would come over and visit with Allen's mother. He says he can't be too sure how or when the abuse occurred. He also says Darrin Tuck looks familiar, but he can't be sure if he has seen him with Stiles. Tuck is the man who claims to have found the tape in the desert.

******
Tina is full of crap.

I don't know... maybe Stiles drugged Tina to make sure she wouldn't wake up from her nap? I wouldn't put it past him...

[TGIRecovered]

Tina says CAS was heavier and had longer hair when she last saw him. Why should anyone believe her without some proof? LE should check convenience store security tapes in the area from the time he was last seen to see if she is lying about his appearance. I wouldn't be surprized if he shaved his head and bleached the stubble blonde or red. Especially if he had a woman to help him do it.

Susan

[DeltaDawn]

I don't consider Tina Allen a victim...everyone else is, including her children, but she choose to stay with this man knowing he was violent, knowing he was accused of lewd acts with a minor. And she saw him last week...so to say she hasn't seen him since August is a lie. She needs to picked up on aiding and abbetting and making false statements that could hinder an investigation..
Also I think she knows right were he would go to ground..since she seems to have dissappeared with him in 2004 .....and if he is violent and afraid of him why is she on national tv talking at all...because she knows right where he is and knows he is far enough away to not hurt her.
I belive the description of longer hair because Todd said that too..but he did not say anything about putting on weight or muscle...that may be another one of her lies to throw off everyone.
I just don't trust Tina as far as I can throw her. I think she does not want this little girl talking to police because she will remember Tina's involvement. If the little girl has no memory of this incident then how come she and her mom recognized Stiles and both started to cry when they saw the pictures. In those pictures did not contain any of the lewd behavior..so she had to remember something or why the tears at just seeing this man's face and herself in the pics? The police said they did not view the tape with the mom or the daughter.

[dee10134]

There is DEFINITELY something fishy with her story. Why would she tell GMA she last saw him in August 2007 then tell CNN it was last week before they released his name.

I think he may have stopped in for their 'friendly conversation' to pick up some money and say his good byes before going on the run. He probably saw himself on TV (before he was identified and named as a POI), stopped by his ex-fiance's house, picked up some cash and took off.

It was reported on one of these threads that she has a home in her name in El Cajon. CA; the same place the arrest warrant references. I think police should look there ASAP!

LE needs to haul Tina Allen in ASAP for further questioning. If she can't keep her story straight for the media, she will definitely be caught up by the police. :liar:

[tnajk@cox.net]

After looking through the "family" myspace pages (and seeing slideshows of the lake trip on nearly all of them ties them to each other, so I'm not just grasping at straws) I dont' buy for one minute that ~one~ of these people didn't recognize "m" on the news when they first released the pictures. There are far to many of them and it seems they're all really close. So why did no one come forward sooner??? They cannot all claim to not be watching the news. I dont' watch the news much and even I saw the pictures, they were all over the place!!!!

Things that make you go hmmmmm....

[Reannan]

I have placed the summary over at SieSie's "Police Look For Girl, Man In Sex Tape - PHOTO and LINK Thread". It is post number 19 on page 1, and can be linked here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53996

I will make updates as needed to that single posting, and notify people periodically over here.

[breeze]

[QUOTE=dee10134;1710990]There is DEFINITELY something fishy with her story. Why would she tell GMA she last saw him in August 2007 then tell CNN it was last week before they released his name.


I watched the GMA video & I did not hear Tina say when she last saw GAS??

It is highly possible that I missed it--LOL. Approximately where in the video does she make this statement? TIA!

[Al_B]

Well, not watching the would work if they didn't live and watch any of their local channels. Which the local stations made sure there was plenty of air time. If they lived out of state then I might believe it as my local station I don't recall them giving it any air time. But it should have been everywhere you looked in the Vegas area on t.v. in the paper,people at work discussing it .
I thought I lived in a vacuum! But they must really have a good one

[Al_B]

[quote=dee10134;1710990]There is DEFINITELY something fishy with her story. Why would she tell GMA she last saw him in August 2007 then tell CNN it was last week before they released his name.


I watched the GMA video & I did not hear Tina say when she last saw GAS??

It is highly possible that I missed it--LOL. Approximately where in the video does she make this statement? TIA!
I missed the one with Todd saying stiles could be living in his truck yesterday but found it today wondering why they don't have truck info aired.
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14241686/detail.html

and it's even on the video too.

[Reannan]

Hey, I missed this link for greatestjournal.com entry by Todd...can someone repost it? thx

Here ya' go:
http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/2225.html

[dee10134]

[quote=dee10134;1710990]There is DEFINITELY something fishy with her story. Why would she tell GMA she last saw him in August 2007 then tell CNN it was last week before they released his name.


I watched the GMA video & I did not hear Tina say when she last saw GAS??

It is highly possible that I missed it--LOL. Approximately where in the video does she make this statement? TIA!

It was posted here, I believe in thread 2 of the Chester Stiles wanted thread and on Reannan's synopsis. I saw the video with no sound, so I'm just going off of the information that Reannan provided in her synopsis/timeline.

[Reannan]

Well, Todd has finally set his Myspace to private.

[dee10134]

From the article on the smoking gun... "Chester Arthur Stiles, 34, has been a fugitive since early-2004, when a Las Vegas judge issued an arrest warrant charging him with engaging in a lewd act with a minor."

If he's been a fugitive and Tina fesses up to him stopping by, why the hell aren't they hauling her ass in for aiding and abetting a fugitive?! They need to turn up the heat on her!!!

He's had this warrant for over 3 years... she's known about it... she said herself she broke up with him a few months ago... She's probably been on the run with him for the past 3 years. As far as I'm concerned, she has no credibility and I think she's lying for him.

[tnajk@cox.net]

Stephanie uses the "e" on her name as do all of her friends on Myspace.

[lizzybeth]

Well, Todd has finally set his Myspace to private.


FINALLY! I sent him an e-mail yesterday (like so many of you probably did) and checked this morning and it was still public with the same pictures posted. Maybe he hadn't checked his e-mail yet. Anyway, I'm glad those pics aren't public anymore.

[Al_B]

Stephanie uses the "e" on her name as do all of her friends on Myspace.
her page is private.
if you type it in with the e you'll get 95 pages of Stephanie Allen's
with no e there are just 4 and she is the first one

[richandfamous]

Here ya' go:
http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/2225.html

thx reannan!

[Reannan]

I think many in the Allen family, and their close circle of friends are going to be hurt by what CAS has done, and most of them are victims. I think someone, somewhere is involved at a level that needs to be investigated. I hope LE has any information they need before everything shuts down. Surely, they do......don't you think?? Does anyone know, can LE suponea Myspace accounts if someone is under investigation? Wonder how long before Tina's goes private? Of course, I think she has her space adjusted to hide comments from family and friends. For instance, one of her pictures has "two" comments, but you only see one of them....from a total stranger that appears to be spamming her for some product or service.

[lviola]

I think many in the Allen family, and their close circle of friends are going to be hurt by what CAS has done, and most of them are victims. I think someone, somewhere is involved at a level that needs to be investigated. I hope LE has any information they need before everything shuts down. Surely, they do......don't you think?? Does anyone know, can LE suponea Myspace accounts if someone is under investigation? Wonder how long before Tina's goes private? Of course, I think she has her space adjusted to hide comments from family and friends. For instance, one of her pictures has "two" comments, but you only see one of them....from a total stranger that appears to be spamming her for some product or service.

Can someone please PM me Tina's myspace?

TIA

[Reannan]

In fact, it is VERY interesting to me, that Tuck turned in that video to LE on 9/8/07, and there have been absolutely NO comments posted to Tina's site since 9/17/07. That gave them approximately one week to get a heads up that something was going down. That is also about the same time that CAS went underground this time.....i.e. "one week ago". Hmmmm....

[SeriouslySearching]

I love that Tina is coming forward for her 15 minutes and is giving LE great information in the process. I think they will give her enough rope to hang herself in the media with no problem! Allowing her to speak freely and lie to interviewers is playing right into their hands. Of course, she isn't aware we already know she had prior knowledge...because Taximom and others are so good at sleuthing!

Yes, LE does need to be made aware of those journal entries because they directly point to her lies. The Allens don't realize the journals have already been tied to this case. (Todd has probably long forgotten his words which are going to come back to haunt his mother.)

Has someone already asked Christine to send them into LE? By the way, since Clark County has taken over the case...are we now dealing with them instead of Nye? These need to be sent to the right place! They are great leads. (WTG, WSers!)

[dee10134]

It's obvious they have a computer. They should look at Tina Allen's computer to see if there's other child porn on it...

They never said if Tina and CAS were living together... 10 years is a very long time not to have shacked up at one point or another...

[Dryad]

According to the date on Tina's MySpace, she hasn't logged in since 6/11/2007.

There are some pictures, although none of CAS. I noticed this will all the family photos on various sites. I found hundreds of family photos, (birthdays, holidays, vacations) yet not one single photo had CAS in them. He was dating her for 10 years and no photos with the family. Did the kids not want him around for these family occassions? Or was he in and out of their lives running around that he just "popped in" from time to time. Seemed to be that way. Yet, she claims he was a good role model for her children. Another odd fact?

[dee10134]

According to the date on Tina's MySpace, she hasn't logged in since 6/11/2007.

There are some pictures, although none of CAS. I noticed this will all the family photos on various sites. I found hundreds of family photos, (birthdays, holidays, vacations) yet not one single photo had CAS in them. Another odd fact?

I do find that a little odd. Maybe she removed all reference to him when they "broke up" a few months ago...

[SeriouslySearching]

It's obvious they have a computer. They should look at Tina Allen's computer to see if there's other child porn on it...

They never said if Tina and CAS were living together... 10 years is a very long time not to have shacked up at one point or another... Great point!! They should also obtain search warrants to include searches for other tapes, video equipment, and all computers of the Allen's which could have been in the home during the time CAS had access. He could have used Todd's, Steph's, or Tina's.

[Reannan]

Does anyone know the quickest way to get intouch with Christine? She has been our point of contact with LE. Of course, this will be a new point of contact, since we are now dealing with Las Vegas, right?? Nye County is only involved with Tuck at this point.

[Al_B]

He has to have stuff somewhere. Have they checked for storage units? He can't have all his stuff with him. surely some of it would have been left behind at not only the Allen's but elsewhere

[dee10134]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/rape.tape.girl/

"Allen said she and Stiles had been in an on-again, off-again relationship for 10 years and that he was good with her children."

I think they're temporarily "off-again" while the heat is on... and if things simmer down and he's not found, as sick as this sounds, they'll be back "on-again."

Somehow I get the vibe that Tina has been manipulated by CAS to do what he wants, including lie for him. Todd did say he is an expert manipulator... Maybe he played some mind games with her to make her think that no one but him would want her, a single mom with 3 kids... Maybe he has her brainwashed. If that's the case, she is another victim of this sick perverted maggot.

[DeltaDawn]

I think DOG and his wife Beth(?) need to have a long heart to haert talk with Tina..she is trying to cover her butt and seem all innocent of this, but we know she knew.
I hope LE got a list of all children that would have come into contact with CAS through the Allens because heseemed to be having a hayday back in 2003 with very young little girls. Now there are two we know of..I am sure there are more, but like "M" they probably were brainwashed into not telling anyone.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't have her phone number, but I know she reads the board every chance she gets. : )

[SeriouslySearching]

I think DOG and his wife Beth(?) need to have a long heart to haert talk with Tina..she is trying to cover her butt and seem all innocent of this, but we know she knew.
I hope LE got a list of all children that would have come into contact with CAS through the Allens because he seemed to be having a hayday back in 2003 with very young little girls. Now there are two we know of..I am sure there are more, but like "M" they probably were brainwashed into not telling anyone.
hehehe I like the way you think! Yes, Dog and Beth would be excellent for this task.

However, I am sure LE is conducting the interviews of the people they suspect could be involved and will do an indepth investigation of Tina and the background with CAS.

[DeltaDawn]

Does anyone know the quickest way to get intouch with Christine? She has been our point of contact with LE. Of course, this will be a new point of contact, since we are now dealing with Las Vegas, right?? Nye County is only involved with Tuck at this point.
Reannan try emailimg or pm'ing Christine..she would have to make contact and find a point person in the Las Vegas police dept..I'm surprised they haven't given a point person in Vegas LE yet..or maybe I just missed it. Nye Co was quick to set up hotlines and detectives for the case. I am sure someone in Vegas is now heading this up.

[tnajk@cox.net]

Originally Posted by
Well, here is the main "Family" site. You'll see Todd, Stephanie and more and all of thier sites are linked through this one... I have my theory as to who is "m"s mother. Her site is private as many of them are now.

I can say one thing, these people all liked to party and have a good time. There aren't many pictures of children anywhere. :waitasec: Without passing judgement, I sure hope DHS makes sure the living situation is appropriate for "M".

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=81794141

[DeltaDawn]

In one of the interviews Tina or Todd said that CAS was her fiance at one point. And in some of Todd's journal entries he describes things that way too...so I don't think this was on again off again..esspecially if she took off with him and disappeared in 4/2004 right when the initial warrant was issued. No way that she didn't know what was going down with him...she just didn't want to face it and admit it to herself.

[dee10134]

In one of the interviews Tina or Todd said that CAS was her fiance at one point. And in some of Todd's journal entries he describes things that way too...so I don't think this was on again off again..esspecially if she took off with him and disappeared in 4/2004 right when the initial warrant was issued. No way that she didn't know what was going down with him...she just didn't want to face it and admit it to herself.

Exactly. So she lied to the media too by describing their relationship as on/off. So we pretty much caught her in two lies already. Lets see how many more we can catch her on...

[Reannan]

Why can't I find a cached page of Tina's Myspace? I think pretty much everything that is on there right now is new. Or am I missing something about the way cacheing works? I can even find cached blogs of some of the other people, but nothing on Tina. Interesting that they have a family Myspace! I am not sure what to make of it, however. They all look to be of age, and they are in Vegas......so I don't find it odd at all that they would like to party. Heck, I might even have attended a few if I were there, and knew them! :p Todd, actually seems like a straight up guy. He just got back from basic training in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma. From the cached blog, he moved back "home" on 4/11/07. Gosh, what a mess to come back home to, huh?

[SadieMae]

I'm barely keeping up here! Still trying to catch up on thread #2. Y'all are ON IT!!!

[Tom'sGirl]

Why can't I find a cached page of Tina's Myspace? I think pretty much everything that is on there right now is new. Or am I missing something about the way cacheing works? I can even find cached blogs of some of the other people, but nothing on Tina. Interesting that they have a family Myspace! I am not sure what to make of it, however. They all look to be of age, and they are in Vegas......so I don't find it odd at all that they would like to party. Heck, I might even have attended a few if I were there, and knew them! :p Todd, actually seems like a straight up guy. He just got back from basic training in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma. From the cached blog, he moved back "home" on 4/11/07. Gosh, what a mess to come back home to, huh?

From what I read last night from his blogs, it appears he did not complete his Basic Training for some reason not mentioned and a friend posted for him that he would be returning and explain why.

I also read a blog of his regarding Madison's mother (will not post her name) and he was upset with her. He mentions also where she worked, at least at the point in time.

[itsreenw]

Courtesy of Court TV Crime Library Message Boards:

Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997

Name: D####n M#####l Iwanicki
Date of Birth: 11 Apr 1991
Gender: Male
Birth County: Bell
Father's name: Chester Arthur Stiles
Mother's name: Claudia Sylvia Iwanicki
Roll Number: 1991_0010




STILES, CHESTER ARTHUR (Age 37)
Available LAS VEGAS, NV
PACT, FL
DARROUZETT, TX
PANAMA CITY, FL
View Details
2. STILES, CHESTER
Available(1) Available LAS VEGAS, NV
View Details
3. STILES, CHESTERARTHUR

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

DIAMOND WATER TECHNOLOGIES Lighting Maintenance Services



IWANICKI, CLAUDIA SYLVIA (Age 38)

Associated names:

IWANCKI, CLAUDIA S
IWANICKI, C
Available(4) Available HENDERSON, NV
KILLEEN, TX
LAS VEGAS, NV
EL PASO, TX
ODESSA, TX
COLUMBUS, OH Possible Relatives:

IWANICKI, JOLANDA G (Age 67)
IWANICKI, EDMOND VINCENT (Age 61)
IWANICKI, IWANICKI EDMUND

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FOWLER, BRUCE LYNN (Age 54)
COLEMAN, KEVIN D (Age 32)
FOWLER, PATRICIA ANN (Age 54)
COLEMAN, JENNIFER MARIE (Age 32)
View Details
2. IWANICKI, CLAUDIA SYLVIA (Age 38)
Available LAS VEGAS, NV
View Details
3. IWANICKI, CLAUDIA (Age 38)
Available HOUSTON, TX

[Indiana at Heart]

Can someone send me a PM to the myspaces please. Thanks

[SeriouslySearching]

The family page does give a bit of insight to the fact they like to party, but for many families...it is their norm. The photos I saw were pretty innocent of people getting together to celebrate Halloween, probably birthdays, etc. Last I heard, drinking in Las Vegas was still legal.

So Todd is in the military? Strange as he didn't strike me as a guy that was just returning from basic training. Hmm...so maybe he didn't finish...I see now. Well...some people just aren't cut out for it. Then again, I know a kid sent home for having "flat feet" and he was devastated.

[Reannan]

Look back up at Tom's Girl post #87, she has read more of the blogs than I have. Appears he didn't actually finish basic training.

[Shari_Gal]

Thanks, Reannan!

I wonder if CAS may have started out molesting older girls and progressed to younger children because of their inability to coherently explain to their parents what he had done to them, and because it harder to prove what a younger child says is true. Pedos learn from their mistakes...problem is, they learn better ways to get away with it instead of growing a concience!

against CAS, the 6 year old girl, was able to tell detectives the details of the assault perpetrated upon her by CAS.So he may have decided change his predatory habits to seek out children under 5 since many 3 or 4 year old children don't possess the verbal skills to articulate what was being done to them.


When I googled the 4550 E Karen Avenue Las Vegas NV 89121 address for Chester Stiles, I found a daycare business listed for that address:

Pearl's Daycare
4550 E Karen Avenue
Las Vegas NV 89121
702-431-3455

The 4550 E Karen address is apartments, so there must have been a private daycare business in one the apartments at the same address listed for Chester Stiles, perhaps CAS was attracted to the Karen Avenue address as a predator, because there was a daycare business there (there is a 2nd address for the daycare I found, so I think it's no longer at the Karen Ave address)

[Tom'sGirl]

The family page does give a bit of insight to the fact they like to party, but for many families...it is their norm. The photos I saw were pretty innocent of people getting together to celebrate Halloween, probably birthdays, etc. Last I heard, drinking in Las Vegas was still legal.

So Todd is in the military? Strange as he didn't strike me as a guy just returning from basic training at all. Well..good for him!

Todd is not in the Regular Military from what I read. He posted for a very long time of going for training and how long he will be gone even leaves his military address. Then all of a sudden, he is back so didn't complete his training for some reason.

[philamena]

Did I miss when CAS moved to Las Vegas or the Vegas area in general?

Looks like he went to Vegas, FLA, Vegas and Texas somewhere in between.

[Tom'sGirl]

against CAS, the 6 year old girl, was able to tell detectives the details of the assault perpetrated upon her by CAS.So he may have decided change his predatory habits to seek out children under 5 since many 3 or 4 year
old children don't have the verbal skills, wouldn't understand what was being done to them

When I googled the 4550 E Karen Avenue Las Vegas NV 89121 address for Chester Stiles, I found a daycare business listed for that address:

Pearl's Daycare
4550 E Karen Avenue
Las Vegas NV 89121
702-431-3455

The 4550 E Karen address is apartments, so there must have been a private daycare business in one the apartments at the same address listed for Chester Stiles, perhaps CAS was attracted to the Karen Avenue address as a predator because there was a daycare business there (there is a 2nd address for the daycare I found, so I think it's no longer at the Karen Ave address)

This was discussed on another thread and a local went to that address and it is only apts.

However the local did find where Pearl's Daycare is now located and not at the Karen addy.

[SeriouslySearching]

Sheesh! Shep and Fox just messed up a bit. I think the media is getting confused about Tina and Steph...and who knew what and where. He did say CAS' GF was definitely aware of his past etc. which I was thinking, "Oh, so they know about the journal or something!" then they flash to Steph's interview at the front door. They need Reannan's synopsis. LOL (Good job, by the way!)

[itsreenw]

A woman named Angela Fries was searching for Chester in 2003 on a military-based search site. She listed her email address as angel_hot692000@yahoo.com (angel_hot692000@yahoo.com) and asked that anyone with info contact her. I wonder if she ever heard from him??

She said she thought he was last in Okinawa, Japan. I know Okinawa has an Air Force base but I was not aware there was a Naval Base too.

[Indy Gal]

Sorry if this has been posted.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/rape.tape.girl/index.html

[Shari_Gal]

This was discussed on another thread and a local went to that address and it is only apts.

However the local did find where Pearl's Daycare is now located and not at the Karen addy.

Yes, I am the local that went to the address, it is apartments or condos, lots of families live there, so a daycare ,possibly an unlicensed daycare, could easily have been being run at one of the units there.

[SuziQ]

I have placed the summary over at SieSie's "Police Look For Girl, Man In Sex Tape - PHOTO and LINK Thread". It is post number 19 on page 1, and can be linked here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53996

I will make updates as needed to that single posting, and notify people periodically over here.

Thank you Reannan, that will be a great help!

[itsreenw]

Ok, I emailed her. This is what I said:

Hello Angela,

You don't know me but I am an amateur online true-crime sleuth. I saw your post from 2003 when you were looking for Chester Stiles. I don't know what your relationship was with him but I assume by now you have heard there is a manhunt for him for raping a 3 year old girl and a fugitive warrant for child molestation of another girl.

Whatever your relationship is/was with Mr. Stiles, please be cautious, especially if you have children.

I am a member of a website called www.websleuths.com (http://www.websleuths.com/) . We are trying to find any information that may give insight on Chester Stiles. Please consider joining the site and sharing your input.

[Taximom]

A woman named Angela Fries was searching for Chester in 2003 on a military-based search site. She listed her email address as angel_hot692000@yahoo.com (angel_hot692000@yahoo.com) and asked that anyone with info contact her. I wonder if she ever heard from him??

She said she thought he was last in Okinawa, Japan. I know Okinawa has an Air Force base but I was not aware there was a Naval Base too.

Maybe CAS told her he was in Okinawa because he didn't want to be found by her! lol

[SeriouslySearching]

Sorry if this has been posted.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/rape.tape.girl/index.html Thanks, Indy! It made me sick to read the part where she said this:

"He said he'd been in the Navy and, you know, I was looking for a strong guy to represent to my sons what I thought they needed to be," Allen said.

[Taximom]

Here's a link w/that person's email addy.... ( angel_hot692000 @ yahoo.com (angel_hot692000@ yahoo.com) )
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ZG_iYZPJgWEJ:www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D3831+angel_hot692000&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ZG_iYZPJgWEJ:www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D3831+angel_hot692000&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us)
And here's the main page of that site! lol
http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/index.php

[DeltaDawn]

List of Inconsistences in Tina's Media Interviews

1. Tina says that she was not aware of CAS other warrants for the six year old girl.
According to Todd's journal entries she was aware.

2. Tina says to GMA she has not seen Cas since sometime in August.
Tina tells CNN she saw him last week.
Todd's interview stated he had seen CAS last week.

3. Tina says she knew him to be family man type.
Tina later says that he was violent with her once.
Todd says that he was a person who was highly manipulative,
verbally and mentallly abusive.

4. Tina says their relationship was on again off again.
Tina was CAS fiance at the time of the first lewdness warrant, per Todd's journal.

Anyone else pick up any other inconsistances with Tina's story.

[philamena]

helloooo guys,
Can someone tell me when Stiles first moved to Las Vegas?
I'm trying to reread and find the information myself but the threads are moving quickly. lol

[Taximom]

I don't have a membership there (lol) but I'd sure like to know who "littleguy" is that asked about her on that same page. Could it be?

[SeriouslySearching]

Itreenw~ I wonder if she was looking for him because something happened with one of her children and she wanted it to sound innocent so people would help her find him? The request was from 2003...if memory serves me right. I also wonder how many people have written to her since her request was found?! I bet she is getting deluged with responses now.

Instead of her contacting us...she should be contacting LE in Clark County if she has any information on Stiles.

[Reannan]

I have emailed Christine to see if she has a contact with Las Vegas LE. They probably already know all of this, but then again, look how much time all of US have put into finding this stuff. They may not have had time or even thought to check out old journal postings, etc. At the very least, they are probably aware of the contradictions Tina is making in her interviews. I just bet she has a darn good idea where CAS is hiding. I will update the summary to include Angela Fries, aka Angela Fehringer, aka angel_hot692000. I am suprised I had forgotten about this connection!! :doh: If I recall, someone earlier had followed that email and it lead to an escort service of some kind. IIRC, the lead was connected with Pennsylvania??? Anyway, I am at home today because I had a migraine this morning, and now I have to go for a dentist appointment. Isn't my day complete!!??? :behindbar It will probably be latter this evening before I get to update the summary, but I will try to add anything new that has come about. If any of you know anything that should be included, pm me or email me at reannan1462@comcast.net. You guys are absolutely, the best in the world. I never cease to be amazed at what you find, and the connections you make. :blowkiss:

[Taximom]

itsreenw, I hope you didn't use your real email or name when you emailed that person.

All right. You guys have changed my feelings about Tina. Originally I was thinking she was a partial victim herself, but your comments have made me see the light. Thank you.

Who the heck is Wanda Barzee?

[philamena]

Hate to be negative but seeing that Tina was with Stiles when the first charges were brought against him, she knew 'something' was wrong. She knew what charges were brought against him.

[SeriouslySearching]

I think covering for Stiles is an understatement. I think Tina is in this up to her eyeballs. There is a distinct possibility she ran with him when he took off to avoid the first charges in 2004.

Also...just in my humble opinion...there is no way I believe Tina was taking a "nap" during the abuse. CAS was alone for that period of time knowing for a fact no one would disturb him...so either Tina MUST have left the child with him OR she was aware it was taking place. He would not have risked someone walking in while making that video and he could not have taken the risk she could have screamed waking someone else in the small apt.

[Lurker]

itsreenw, I hope you didn't use your real email or name when you emailed that person.

All right. You guys have changed my feelings about Tina. Originally I was thinking she was a partial victim herself, but your comments have made me see the light. Thank you.

Who the heck is Wanda Barzee?


She is the wife of the man that kidnapped Elizabeth Smart.

[Taximom]

She is the wife of the man that kidnapped Elizabeth Smart.

OHhhh, that's right. Thank you. Now I get all those comments. :doh:

[Lurker]

OHhhh, that's right. Thank you. Now I get all those comments. :doh:

I googled it, I couldn't remember either. LOL

[itsreenw]

Itreenw~ I wonder if she was looking for him because something happened with one of her children and she wanted it to sound innocent so people would help her find him? The request was from 2003...if memory serves me right. I also wonder how many people have written to her since her request was found?! I bet she is getting deluged with responses now.

Instead of her contacting us...she should be contacting LE in Clark County if she has any information on Stiles. I just assumed she would contact LE without it being suggested to her or that they would have contacted her already but I guess I can't assume anything in this case.

I was trying to sound 'innocent' too, so she would join us. LOL

[philamena]

I think covering for Stiles is an understatement. I think Tina is in this up to her eyeballs. There is a distinct possibility she ran with him when he took off to avoid the first charges in 2004.

SS,
You're saying what I'm thinking. I think Tina is wayyyyyyy into this. She's been with Stiles for over 10 years. She knows his interest so to speak.

[dee10134]

List of Inconsistences in Tina's Media Interviews

1. Tina says that she was not aware of CAS other warrants for the six year old girl.
According to Todd's journal entries she was aware.

2. Tina says to GMA she has not seen Cas since sometime in August.
Tina tells CNN she saw him last week.
Todd's interview stated he had seen CAS last week.

3. Tina says she knew him to be family man type.
Tina later says that he was violent with her once.
Todd says that he was a person who was highly manipulative,
verbally and mentallly abusive.

Anyone else pick up any other inconsistances with Tina's story.

I picked up on it right away. Has someone taken screen shots of Todd's journal where he says his mom is aware of the outstanding warrants??

[SuziQ]

itsreenw, I hope you didn't use your real email or name when you emailed that person.

All right. You guys have changed my feelings about Tina. Originally I was thinking she was a partial victim herself, but your comments have made me see the light. Thank you.

Who the heck is Wanda Barzee?

She is the wife of the yahoo that kidnapped Elizabeth Smart. One of her daughters spoke out about growing up with him. He was very cruel. At dinner one night he informed her that she was eating her pet rabbit.

[philamena]

Sure hope NV LE is talking with all of Tina and Stephanie's friends who have children. Posstiles is the worst kind of predator and I don't think for a minute that Precious was his first child rape...
grrrrrrr makes me furious.

[Beffie]

Ex-girlfriend of Stiles speak out on Larry King tonight.

Lets see how many more lies she says.

[SeriouslySearching]

Did you see the footage of Stiles and her on the CNN video? There are 3 people in that bed on that portion of the video. I haven't had any desire to see it, but it sounds to me like people here have pretty much determined they were probably outside on a blanket somewhere. Sounded pretty innocent to me. It is what normal American families do at lake parties, fireworks shows, or the like. We shouldn't read too much into things like that.

[lizzybeth]

Does anyone know if Tina Allen is being paid for any of these interviews?

[Jaded]

Hate to be negative but seeing that Tina was with Stiles when the first charges were brought against him, she knew 'something' was wrong. She knew what charges were brought against him. After watching her interview with CNN, I can't help but believe she's covering for Stiles.
I think she's covering for him, too. A man that her sons could look up to yet she stayed with him even after he violated a young girl? Tina, imo is yet another of those women who are willing to forsake their children just to have a penis in their lives.

[cheko1]

SS I agree with you Tina is in this all the way......
She was well aware Stiles was a lowlife looser & even today as we all know here she is COA.

[SeriouslySearching]

Ex-girlfriend of Stiles speak out on Larry King tonight.

Lets see how many more lies she says.Wow! One bad decision after another!! :bang:There is no end to her stupidity, is there?! LE has got to be loving this!

[DeltaDawn]

I think this family needs to stop with the interviews and lawyer up...Tina is looking more and more sounding and appearing to be aiding and abetting with every interview she gives.

[philamena]

I haven't had any desire to see it, but it sounds to me like people here have pretty much determined they were probably outside on a blanket somewhere. Sounded pretty innocent to me. It is what normal American families do at lake parties, fireworks shows, or the like. We shouldn't read too much into things like that.

Seriously Searching,
The footage I'm talking about is on the latest video played on CNN.
I can't tell if the video is shot inside or outside so I'm going to take back my comment. :)

[Beffie]

Does anyone know if Tina Allen is being paid for any of these interviews?

Gosh, I hope not. Knowing someone in a relationship like her and Stiles, I do feel sorry for her, but she really needs to pull her head out of her rear and own up to things. She made a comment earlier in one of the interviews about someone keep throwing this back in her families face (not the exact words). I am just throwing it in her face, for being so stupid to put her family and others in danger because she is so desperate to be loved. For helping him and allowing him access to children. If he had a temper and hit her, I am sure he hit her kids, since they were younger when they started dating. Who knows what else he did. I pity anyone that Tina put in danger. Now Tina go on tv and act like a victim. I am sure you are loving all the attention. Please talk about how you didn't know and what a wonderful person you are. Liar.:liar:

Here is some more rope Tina....

[dee10134]

I think this family needs to stop with the interviews and lawyer up...Tina is looking more and more sounding and appearing to be aiding and abetting with every interview she gives.

She's BEEN aiding and abetting for the past 3 years! Why isn't LE hauling her ass in for that?!

She was with him for 10 years. She had to be WELL AWARE of the 2004 warrant, yet she ran off with him and apparently continued the relationship after the accusations and never turned him in on the warrant...

How can LE let her get away with that?

[SeriouslySearching]

Does anyone know if Tina Allen is being paid for any of these interviews?I would normally say, "Of course, she is!"...but the more I hear and see her capacity for reasonable thought...she might not be!

[believe09]

Does anyone actually know that CAS is the survivalist type or is that one of the webs he has woven around these people? It seems like Todd and Tina are obediently repeating it and I am sure that he carries a weapon, but I was curious as to whether or not either of them had actually witnessed his ability to survive in the wild, or even hunt for that matter. It is a nice way to throw the police off balance however....just wondering.

[Beffie]

Does anyone actually know that CAS is the survivalist type or is that one of the webs he has woven around these people? It seems like Todd and Tina are obediently repeating it and I am sure that he carries a weapon, but I was curious as to whether or not either of them had actually witnessed his ability to survive in the wild, or even hunt for that matter. It is a nice way to throw the police off balance however....just wondering.


I wouldn't doubt it is all lies that Chet told them. He is the all mighty Chet, big strong powerful Chet. Likes to abuse little girls....oh big man.

He probably couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. LOSER!!!

[cheko1]

I wish it wasn't so hard to get a phone call into LKL we should all call in & ask why she is lieing? See what she has to say then.

[SeriouslySearching]

She's BEEN aiding and abetting for the past 3 years! Why isn't LE hauling her ass in for that?!

She was with him for 10 years. She had to be WELL AWARE of the 2004 warrant, yet she ran off with him and apparently continued the relationship after the accusations and never turned him in on the warrant...

How can LE let her get away with that?LE isn't letting her get away with anything. They know all of the above. They also know they can allow her to make statements to the press all day long and use them against her and Stiles later. :liar:

If they arrest her...she will lawyer up and they won't get anything out of her! This is SO much better. :D

[lizzybeth]

Maybe he should just let her continue to lie.

[SuziQ]

Can someone do a rough transcript of the Larry King Show tonight? It's times like this I wish I had cable. I just don't watch much TV.

[philamena]

Ex-girlfriend of Stiles speak out on Larry King tonight.

Lets see how many more lies she says.

Good lord, how many tv interviews is this chic doing today?
I bet she's getting paid for them. I also bet she's going to dig a big hole for herself where CAS is concerned.


Suzie!Q,
I'll post the transcript.

[SuziQ]

Does anyone actually know that CAS is the survivalist type or is that one of the webs he has woven around these people? It seems like Todd and Tina are obediently repeating it and I am sure that he carries a weapon, but I was curious as to whether or not either of them had actually witnessed his ability to survive in the wild, or even hunt for that matter. It is a nice way to throw the police off balance however....just wondering.

I have wondered about this as well.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, he is a survivalist like I am the Queen of England! I am sure they are repeating stories he has told them thru the years of his "almighty" skills of endurance, military prowess, and intelligence to be a "warrior". He is a scumsucking bottom feeder who could not survive one cold night out in the desert.

[believe09]

Is it me or has Larry King sunk to that kind of low? He is interviewing the honey's of predators on the run who rape babies? I am genuinely shocked.

[DeltaDawn]

Maybe we email LKL and ask them to ask her about these inconsistances in the interviews?

[lizzybeth]

It would be nice if he did but I don't think LK ever asks any difficult questions. Maybe she should be on Glenn Beck or O'Reilly.

[lizzybeth]

It would be nice if he did but I don't think LK ever asks any difficult questions. Maybe she should be on Glenn Beck or O'Reilly.


Or Nancy Grace

[SeriouslySearching]

Is it me or has Larry King sunk to that kind of low? He is interviewing the honey's of predators on the run who rape babies? I am genuinely shocked.I don't think it is a low if he is trying to track down these pervs. Larry is so experienced as an interviewer, he can ask the right questions for LE to read between the lines. LE will be watching this very, very closely.

Larry doesn't take the same road of NG, GB, or others because he would rather kill them with kindness. He draws them out while making them feel welcome and at ease. He does ask the right questions, but they aren't put in a way they will feel automatically defensive. He catches more flies with honey.

Welcome to WS!

[dee10134]

LE isn't letting her get away with anything. They know all of the above. They also know they can allow her to make statements to the press all day long and use them against her and Stiles later. :liar:

If they arrest her...she will lawyer up and they won't get anything out of her! This is SO much better. :D

SO VERY VERY TRUE!!!!! :D

[Tom'sGirl]

Maybe we email LKL and ask them to ask her about these inconsistances in the interviews?

The interview that will be shown has probably already been taped.

These people who go on national TV do several intervies with different media outlets almost one right after another.

[believe09]

I don't think it is a low if he is trying to track down these pervs. Larry is so experienced as an interviewer, he can ask the right questions for LE to read between the lines. LE will be watching this very, very closely.

Welcome to WS!
Thank you for the welcome!! You are right of course...it is definitely another way of doing journalism. It just caught me by surprise, but I am firmly in the camp of anyone who can help these folks tangle themselves up in their stories. It was clear from the beginning that the individual who put CAS and M together was going to have a lot of heat and Tina is doing her best dance to explain why it is and isn't her fault. Especially if this was the second time he attacked a child on her watch. (I am referring to the allegation in the 4/2004 warrant.)

[dee10134]

From Todd's blog, entry dated 12/24/2003: "file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/HEIDIH%7E1.ALC/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpgNow my mother... well lets see.. lost her job.. her fiannce is being charged with Sexual assault on a lil kid, lil kid being 6 year old girl.(i swear i'll kill him if i ever see him), and yet she is still with him.. i dont understand her sometiems but then again love is blind to all actions that are not your own... do you understand?"

You bet your ass she's covering for him.

[Taximom]

Or Nancy Grace

I don't know why, but I thought of Melinda Duckett when you wrote that.

:crazy:

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think she is on a press junket, Tomsgirl. Maybe it is taped already...but it had to be live somewhere while being taped for the call in segment. Is this done only in the NYC area?

[DeltaDawn]

TomsGirl
Check your pm's please.

I did email LKL and asked 4 questions for Tina..if it hasn't taped yet let's hope his staff reads that and he puts her on the hotseat.

Maybe if a few more email the same types of questions about her inconsistancies in earlier interviews, etc they will ask her about them.

That is if it hasn't been taped yet.

[dee10134]

http://strykarian.greatestjournal.com/2004/01/09/

"well in other news i may be on the road for a few months.. uncle is a truker and i need a break so i figure i'll go se the country & ride with him.. it should prove to be most interestign considering i will earn money the whole time."

[christine2448]

> Dear sir...I have been out of the loop the last couple of days working on
> 2 cases here in GA. I hadn't heard from you and thought I'd check in with
> you to see if there is anything we can do.

I have been recouperating and resting! :)

Have you caught Stiles yet???
No.

> If not.... Can we help?? Things we could do are get his picture out
> EVERYWHERE if you tell us the best places to concentrate... we could
> possibly start a reward...... $$ talks :) If you give us info on the
> local bank we can see about setting up a reward fund (morning show's love
> this kind of thing, we could get them to talk about story and raise
> money)..any way..there are lots of little things we can do that you all
> just don't have time to. Please let us know if you would like us to help
> in these ways and if so the concentration areas (NV, Canada, ANYWHERE, we
> can reach any where with the internet!).

This portion of the case has been turned over to the Las Vegas
Metropolitan Police Department due to the fact that the crime occurred in
their jurisidction. You should check with them to see what they would
desire in reference to thiscase.

Thanks for all your help at our end.
Thanks best regards,

Det. Boruchowitz
You are all in our prayers!
> Kindest regards, Christine



Detective David E. Boruchowitz
Nye County Sheriff's Office
1520 E. Basin Ave
Pahrump, Nevada 89060
Office Phone 775-751-7008
Fax 775-751-4671
Cell 775-294-6005
dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us (http://email.secureserver.net/webmail.php?folder=INBOX&firstMessage=1#Compose)

[dee10134]

http://strykarian.greatestjournal.com/2004/01/16/

"wow... an ex of mine i jsut got back in touch with called me today... I really dont want to post want happened cause its really personall and i dont waht her business out.. just her thinking to call me instead of anyone else and its long distance [<<perhaps someone from Vegas??>>] blew my mind.. thats true frriendship.. i wish i could be there with her to comforher and help her through this but all i can do is sit here adn talk to her, which maks me feel like an A-hole.. i mean wow.. what do you say to this... i so just want to say it and holding it in is gunna kill me cause i need to get it off my chest... I need someone to talk to .. someone i can trust more then anythign in the world.. i need tiffany to understnad if you read this tiff... I am here and always will be.. just call on me and i will eb there.."

HMMMM... this is from 2004 and the subject was "major shocker." I wonder what's up with that...

[lizzybeth]

I did too (ssshhhh) :blushing:

[Taximom]

Rest well, Detective B and everyone else that worked on this.

Christine, thanks for posting that.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, Christine...this is what I figured. Now you have to "endear" yourself to Clark County which I am certain you will have no trouble doing.

How about we make a list of things to send them starting with the links to all of the Journal entries? (How did we ascertain they were written by Todd, by the way, as I have forgotten? LE will need to know this.)

[MsRusty]

I guess I'm in the minority here because I still believe that Tina is also a victim of Stiles. A victim by her own choosing, but a victim nonetheless. This is strictly my opinion, but I'm thinking Tina is one of those women who HAS to have a man in her life and will believe whatever crap he says. I also think that their 10 year relationship was an off & on thing, don't know why I think that though. The 2004 molestation charge he probably tried to explain away by telling her something like the 6 yr old's mother is making it up to get back at him for something or other. And Tina because she is so in love (and blinded) believes him. (Let's face it, false accusations do happen.) Her going on the "run" with him could also be him telling her they needed to leave town so he could work (or whatever) until the charges are cleared.
I really don't think Tina knew of his pedo tendancies. Maybe looking back something might seem different now that this is out, but I don't think she knew or suspected him of such behavior.
Her children were also in their early teens when she hooked up with him so I doubt that he abused them (physically or sexually), I think Todd would have mentioned that (maybe) by now since they seem to be on a media tour.
Again, all this is strictly my opinion.

[dee10134]

Yes, Christine...this is what I figured. Now you have to "endear" yourself to Clark County which I am certain you will have no trouble doing.

How about we make a list of things to send them starting with the links to all of the Journal entries? (How did we ascertain they were written by Todd, by the way, as I have forgotten? LE will need to know this.)

I'm compiling a Word document with screen shots of journal entries right now... Should I just email it to Christine when I'm finished?

[DeltaDawn]

Well Tina sure knows now and she knew a week ago that there was still an outstanding warrant for the incident with the 6 year old, and she did not turn him in then. Let's face it she never would have turned him in.

Stupid is as stupid does...Forrest Gump

[Jaded]

http://strykarian.greatestjournal.com/2004/01/16/

"wow... an ex of mine i jsut got back in touch with called me today... I really dont want to post want happened cause its really personall and i dont waht her business out.. just her thinking to call me instead of anyone else and its long distance [<<perhaps someone from Vegas??>>] blew my mind.. thats true frriendship.. i wish i could be there with her to comforher and help her through this but all i can do is sit here adn talk to her, which maks me feel like an A-hole.. i mean wow.. what do you say to this... i so just want to say it and holding it in is gunna kill me cause i need to get it off my chest... I need someone to talk to .. someone i can trust more then anythign in the world.. i need tiffany to understnad if you read this tiff... I am here and always will be.. just call on me and i will eb there.."

HMMMM... this is from 2004 and the subject was "major shocker." I wonder what's up with that...

My first thought when I read this is maybe the family DID know about inappropriate behavior with the little girl. Anything is possible at this stage.

[SeriouslySearching]

MsRusty~ There is a difference in being a victim and being an enabler. When she heard about the first incident, she became the latter. If you read the warrant, it was very specific as to what he had allegedly done. Tina can't use her "victim" status to cover herself since she was aware such charges existed.

[dee10134]

They have a younger brother, Paul, who was 15 in Feb 2004. That would make him a small child when Stiles and Tina got together. Maybe they should question him...

"WEll just thought i would post a morning hello to everyone all though it is 3 in the afternoon. lol. Anyways i dont have much time i have to get off to work.. today is gunna be fun. I found out that i will be in vegas around the 15th of march... not along time away.. I have alot to prepare for.. I will definetly be posting about that.. i really diont have much to post about right now other then the vegas thing cause i cant wait to go see my nephew who talks to me on the phone and is only 2 years old. i cant believe how much he talks and last night he was carrying around a gallon of chocolate milk at the store. can you believe that.. its amazing.

also i have talked to my youngest brother Paul and he is not only playing the Grand Piano but he is learning to play the drums now to.. plus he is an artist... the only difference between he and i is he can draw.. i just sing dance act model and play instruments. and the fact that he is only 15 years old. anyways here i go running off at the mouth again when i need to be gettting ready for work. Anyways i will talk to you all laters."

http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/8170.html

[sillygoose]

It doesn't really matter to me if Tina is a victim or not. What matters to me is that she is telling lies on tv saying that she had no indication whatsoever that he was a child molester until now. That's a lie according to Todd's journal written in 2003. Even if she didn't believe it, she had an indication.

[Jaded]

I think (and this is opinion only) that Chester the Molester is attracted to young girls. Most pedophiles have an age of attraction and a look. This is info garnered from doing a lot of reading up on them.

[SeriouslySearching]

I am more concerned with the nephew he mentioned being 2 years old. Should I assume this is one of Steph's children then?

[Indiana at Heart]

It doesn't really matter to me if Tina is a victim or not. What matters to me is that she is telling lies on tv saying that she had no indication whatsoever that he was a child molester until now. That's a lie according to Todd's journal written in 2003. Even if she didn't believe it, she had an indication.


AMEN sillygoose!!!
Tina is :liar:

[angarella]

Does anyone know right off hand what time LKL comes on?

TIA

[SuziQ]

I am more concerned with the nephew he mentioned being 2 years old. Should I assume this is one of Steph's children then?

Yes, in one of the interviews, GMA I think, Tina talks about how Stiles and her grandson were playmates, IIRC. Gave me the creeps when she said that.

ETA: however I don't know if it's Steph's son.

[dee10134]

3/20/2004

"Loss of Life
Well today has just been marked as the worst day i have had in a log time.My grandfather has been given two weeks to a month to live.. What kind of BS is that.. and i cant even get to Vegas to talk to him or see him.. I am not happy. I need a break to get out kill someone or something i dont know i just need to release some agressions. Someone ****ing help me over here. I know how to Cope with this but i just odnt friggin want to I mean come on The man taught me how to live my life to the fullest even though i never really should him i cared and that i learned. I did and now i wont even be able to seehim again before he dies. It friggin sux and i dont want to deal with it.. Plus on top of all this friggin BS i find outmy youngest brother has bcome very Suicidal and i have to be the one to tell him about our grandfather.. I can only imagine what his reaction will be to this.. I know my aunt and my sister are shattered i dont know about my mother she has vanished again but what the hell can i do.. not a dam thng.. I dont know Im done."

http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/8958.html

[Al_B]

I believe Nye County said he was a preferential molester, meaning he preferred little girls pre puberty is what I thought but I could be wrong

[dee10134]

3/20/2004

".[snip]..I know my aunt and my sister are shattered i dont know about my mother she has vanished again but what the hell can i do.. not a dam thng.. I dont know Im done."

http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/8958.html

Seems she had a tendency to "vanish" often....

[Jaded]

3/20/2004

"Loss of Life
Well today has just been marked as the worst day i have had in a log time.My grandfather has been given two weeks to a month to live.. What kind of BS is that.. and i cant even get to Vegas to talk to him or see him.. I am not happy. I need a break to get out kill someone or something i dont know i just need to release some agressions. Someone ****ing help me over here. I know how to Cope with this but i just odnt friggin want to I mean come on The man taught me how to live my life to the fullest even though i never really should him i cared and that i learned. I did and now i wont even be able to seehim again before he dies. It friggin sux and i dont want to deal with it.. Plus on top of all this friggin BS i find outmy youngest brother has bcome very Suicidal and i have to be the one to tell him about our grandfather.. I can only imagine what his reaction will be to this.. I know my aunt and my sister are shattered i dont know about my mother she has vanished again but what the hell can i do.. not a dam thng.. I dont know Im done."

http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/8958.html

Is there any way that we can email these entries to the LKL show? I would LOVE to hear him read these to her and watch her reaction. I wonder what other shows she'll be on. Think there's any way we can sic Nancy Grace on her with this stuff?

[dee10134]

Is there any way that we can email these entries to the LKL show? I would LOVE to hear him read these to her and watch her reaction. I wonder what other shows she'll be on. Think there's any way we can sic Nancy Grace on her with this stuff?

I will have a Word document with all of the screen shots within the hour. Who should I email it to...

[Al_B]

Is there any way that we can email these entries to the LKL show? I would LOVE to hear him read these to her and watch her reaction. I wonder what other shows she'll be on. Think there's any way we can sic Nancy Grace on her with this stuff?
It'd be great to leak all of this , but copies should be made so he doesn't go and delete them all

[MsRusty]

Maybe somebody can email Nancy Grace and have NG invite Tina on. If anybody can grill a liar, it would be her.

LK never asks hardball questions, this should be no different. I'm still wondering why the media has latched on to her, because really she isn't offering anything of value as far as things that might help the public in finding him.

[Jaded]

I agree. I'm going to go back and start doing screen grabs. I'll host them over at my site. And I emailed this to the contact form at NG.

Is there any way to get Tina Allen, former girlfriend of Chester Stiles on Nancy's show? We have found a SLEW of evidence online in the form of journal entries, etc., that seem to implicate Ms. Allen's knowledge of Chester's previous allegation of sexual abuse which she stated to the media today that she DID NOT know about. Thanks in advance.

We are discussing this at websleuths.com
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1711370&posted=1#post1711370

[Jaded]

Maybe somebody can email Nancy Grace and have NG invite Tina on. If anybody can grill a liar, it would be her.

LK never asks hardball questions, this should be no different. I'm still wondering why the media has latched on to her, because really she isn't offering anything of value as far as things that might help the public in finding him.

Let's pound the producers with emails. Here's the link to email them.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24

[dee10134]

"today is a good day.. i didnt end up in jail but i ended up with 352$ in court fines which really sux but its better then ten days in jail huh? anyways just thought i would let every know i had court today what for i am not saying but i did an i am not in jail... till later on. bye"

http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/14771.html

[MsRusty]

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?12

This is all I found on LKL page. Not sure if this would be a correct address for the info we want sent.

The whole hour isn't going to be spent on her though, Brittney's bodyguard and the people from TMZ will be on too.

[DeltaDawn]

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?12

This is all I found on LKL page. Not sure if this would be a correct address for the info we want sent.

The whole hour isn't going to be spent on her though, Brittney's bodyguard and the people from TMZ will be on too.

That's where I sent my questions for Tina, just go to LKL's main page and you will see Stiles pretty face there. Right under that is a place to click to email questions for that particular show tonight.

[dee10134]

It'd be great to leak all of this , but copies should be made so he doesn't go and delete them all

I'm creating screen shots as I type this...

[dee10134]

" WEll tonight was just the topper i needed for my weekend...the girl i have been seeing the past couple of weeks(patricia) and i got into a big ****in fight.. everyone who is around her on a dailybasis just started some ****.. and one of them is sposed to be a really good friend which in turn is getting the house with me. But what happened i giuess is supposedly this girl angel which we both just met and likes me told tricia that i was saying sdhe is just a **** buddy .. which i never said.. and her stepdad and uncle walle are "confirming" it by saying they heard it..which i also know is a crock of **** causde i wouldnt EVEWR say some **** likew that.. she made me ****in happy and that is one thing i havent been in a long ****ing time.. and this is also the reason i stopped dating people... and another reason i am not planning on ever getting married. but yeah back to the point.. we argued for about 30 minutes.. mostly it was me trying to get her to understand im not that type of person.. also she is going to get tested tomorrow cause "somethings wrong" and if she comes bacxk with something its automatically my fault, which is also BS, But thats the way it works huh.. its always the guys fault if something goes wrong, well **** THAT! I am not one of those guys... not anymore at least.. i had a bad past yeah but i am not that person anymore no matter what anyone says.. I am so ****ing sick of peopel i wish i could just die ... but that wont solve **** and plus i have died three times already and i just cant seem to stay dead ...

Im thinking about saying **** it all and vanishing again.. something i am VERY good at.. just paking up my **** and moving.. where i dont know and dont care right now.. I just really need someoen to talk to ... in person.. i hate talkin about this type of **** online.. i cant express the feelings i want to and all i ever get in reply is sorry which i hate pity.. i need my boys back in vegas .. we used to just go out get drunk and spill EVERYTHING... those times were great.. but i cant go back to vegas.. i cant return to the life i had.. not what i want.. i want a new life... a better one... but it just doesnt seem like the world wants me to have one.. i dunno.. im just in a bad mood.. laters"

http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/strykarian/21165.html

WOW! He had a very bad childhood in Vegas. I wonder what happened to him that made him hate his past life...

[Al_B]

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