Wanted-Chester Stiles-Video Taped rape of 3 yr old child! NV Thread 6

[Jeana (DP)]

Please continue here and LEAVE OFF ANY BASHING OF M's MOTHER. SHE IS NOT THE PERP HERE.

[dee10134]

Please continue here and LEAVE OFF ANY BASHING OF M's MOTHER. SHE IS NOT THE PERP HERE.

Agreed. :)

[Indiana at Heart]

Please continue here and LEAVE OFF ANY BASHING OF M's MOTHER. SHE IS NOT THE PERP HERE.


Again I agree!!

[dee10134]

Ok, back to finding the maggot known as CAS.

Tina mentions a woman by the name of "Susan" from the San Diego area (El Cajon, anyone?) that Chet associated with.

I'm looking for myspaces, but it's difficult. There are 14 pages of "Susan's" within 5 miles of El Cajon alone...

[Shamrock]

Let today be the day he is found!! I'm in a horrible mood and I know that would help to improve it!!

[Beffie]

Ok, back to finding the maggot known as CAS.

Tina mentions a woman by the name of "Susan" from the San Diego area (El Cajon, anyone?) that Chet associated with.

I'm looking for myspaces, but it's difficult. There are 14 pages of "Susan's" within 5 miles of El Cajon alone...

Isn't it wierd to anyone but me, but she was friends with Chesters "other" lovers? If my boyfriend/fiancee was cheating on me the last person I would want as a friend is the other person. :loser:

[Jaded]

I haven't read the AMW transcript, but did she seriously say that he was a great lover? WTH! This woman is out of her tree.

[SewingDeb]

I would be so happy to see Stile's capture on the news! It would make my day as well!

[dee10134]

I haven't read the AMW transcript, but did she seriously say that he was a great lover? WTH! This woman is out of her tree.

That seriously makes me want to puke! :sick:

[Beffie]

I haven't read the AMW transcript, but did she seriously say that he was a great lover? WTH! This woman is out of her tree.

Yeah I read that too. :doh:

Maybe she thinks the little girls are lucky that their "first" time was with such a great lover. :banghead:

[lizzybeth]

What page is the link on for the AMW transcript. I went to AMW's website and didn't see that option.

[dee10134]

Isn't it wierd to anyone but me, but she was friends with Chesters "other" lovers? If my boyfriend/fiancee was cheating on me the last person I would want as a friend is the other person. :loser:

I've been watching the AMW interview of her (without sound because I'm at work) and to me it looks like she may very well be a tweaker. Look closely at her teeth. They look all messed up to me... idk I could be wrong... Why does she always wear a turtleneck in all of her interviews? And what's up with the exaggerated body language/head movements? The exaggeration makes me think she is lying and using the movements to detract from the lies... JMO

ALSO: Watching the interview without sound. It looks EXTREMELY rehearsed. From the eye movements, to the hand movements, it all looks deliberate and planned out...

[Jaded]

I'm not sure how her sex life equates to locating this turd. Again, it sounds like she turned the interview into the Talking Tina show. I hope like heck they are checking her cell phone records. He's been in contact with her, I bet.

[dee10134]

What page is the link on for the AMW transcript. I went to AMW's website and didn't see that option.

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=49286#associatedpersons

I don't know where the transcripts are but the above is the link to the article and the videos (they're mid-page).

[dee10134]

Yeah I read that too. :doh:

Maybe she thinks the little girls are lucky that their "first" time was with such a great lover. :banghead:

:sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::loser:

[lizzybeth]

Thank you dee.

[lizzybeth]

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=49286

I think this is it.

[Beffie]

I'm not sure how her sex life equates to locating this turd. Again, it sounds like she turned the interview into the Talking Tina show. I hope like heck they are checking her cell phone records. He's been in contact with her, I bet.


I just find that to be so disrespectful with knowing what he is charged for. He taped himself raping a 3 year old baby and she is talking about what a great lover he is. :waitasec:

[MsPooh]

Yeah I read that too. :doh:

Maybe she thinks the little girls are lucky that their "first" time was with such a great lover. :banghead:

Beffie oh dear lord...please...I mean come on! I know it isn't my place but really now...:confused: :eek: :(

[SuziQ]

I just find that to be so disrespectful with knowing what he is charged for. He taped himself raping a 3 year old baby and she is talking about what a great lover he is. :waitasec:

It's very icky how much she talks about her own sex life. Notice how she had to force herself to say IIRC, that she believes as society does, that sex is wrong with a child...oh, and not to mention illegal.

[LMax]

I would be so happy to see Stile's capture on the news! It would make my day as well!
Since he may have been spotted yesterday, I am feeling excited that today may be the day he is captured... He is running out of options.

[Beffie]

It's very icky how much she talks about her own sex life. Notice how she had to force herself to say IIRC, that she believes as society does, that sex is wrong with a child...oh, and not to mention illegal.

I just watched the video and she is wearing a ring on her wedding ring finger...is it a ring from Chester?

She said he was trying to teach his bang to go back..like a GQ look??

Two years into the relationship she noticed he was violent. Broke up in 2001 and he went to live with someone else. She mentions that while he was working with Sigfried and Roy he was exploring S&M and Bondage (which I think is funny she mentions the job because he worked for them for two weeks). She explains how he was exploring his sexuality and she couldn't bash anyone for that as long as it didn't hurt anyone.

That is my summary for those of you without sound.

[dee10134]

It's very icky how much she talks about her own sex life. Notice how she had to force herself to say IIRC, that she believes as society does, that sex is wrong with a child...oh, and not to mention illegal.

Ok, please excuse my ignorance, but what does "IIRC" mean? :doh:

[dee10134]

I guess it is okay to bash the mother but not Tina????

NO, it's okay to bash TINA ALLEN "ex-" girlfriend of CAS, but NOT M's mother. M's mother is presumed an innocent victim in this.

Until LE (or she) proves otherwise, I believe we're told not to bash her.

[Beffie]

I know I think M's mom is an innocent victim in all that and you will not see me say one bad thing about her unless I am proven wrong. I feel sorry for young mothers without family who have to hold two jobs to make ends meet.

[Beffie]

Ok, please excuse my ignorance, but what does "IIRC" mean? :doh:


If I remember correctly.

[dee10134]

If I remember correctly.

OOOOOOOH... LOL :doh:

[SuziQ]

Ok, please excuse my ignorance, but what does "IIRC" mean? :doh:

If I recall correctly

[SuziQ]

If I remember correctly.

Sorry! I didn't see your post.

[Indy Gal]

Please continue here and LEAVE OFF ANY BASHING OF M's MOTHER. SHE IS NOT THE PERP HERE.
Thanks for the new thread Jeana!!!:blowkiss:

[dottierainbow]

I will not bash M's mother but I will say none of us know her or her lifestyle and what she knew or didn't know. I think it's too early to say. Yes, it's not easy being a single parent and working 2 jobs.

[Beffie]

I will not bash M's mother but I will say none of know her or her lifestyle and what she knew or didn't know. I think it's too early to say. Yes, it's not easy being a single parent and working 2 jobs.


Oh yeah that reminds me. Is there any pictures of Ms mom partying on the myspaces. I do not know which one she is and if she is seen partying my opinion will change (not alot, but a little). I just do not know if she just latched onto them because she needed someone in her life, but didn't necessary agree with their lifestyle.

No one has to describe anything just a yes or no would satisfy me. :)

[Dryad]

That interview makes me sick. Did you hear her defend him by saying he was just exploring his sexuality and finding out what he likes...he would be "dating and having sex" with 3-4 women at the same time as her and she was okay with that? Then mentions that he would look at sex sites on the "web"....gee, what do you think he was looking at? And what computer was he using? Seriously, I hope all of those computers in that house were removed and that hard drive checked out.

[Indiana at Heart]

Tina needs to be bashed!! she is making her self look like she knows all and she is telling so many lies that she is getting caught with those lie.

As for the mother I will not bash her and I will not call the child my name not even "M" as some are. People that are keeping yp in this area will put two and two together and this little girl has been threw hell and back! All she needs is for the kids around her to find out it's her and some kids can be very mean and make her life even worse. Her innocence is gone and I will not post her name

[SeriouslySearching]

We aren't really here to bash anyone, but to find the horrible animal that did this to Patience. They need to find this POS!

However, with Tina...when she leaves herself wide open to public ridicule by perpetually defending this animal...well...it is definitely hard not to! The statements she has made such as him being a great lover are her attempts to explain why she stayed with him as she has all along made this all about her. She is as narcissistic as he is. (Sickens me, but doesn't surprise me.)

Are they any closer to finding this POS? Every day that passes I hope means he has found that hole in the desert to bury himself, but I doubt it. He is such a coward.

[dee10134]

Oh yeah that reminds me. Is there any pictures of Ms mom partying on the myspaces. I do not know which one she is and if she is seen partying my opinion will change (not alot, but a little). I just do not know if she just latched onto them because she needed someone in her life, but didn't necessary agree with their lifestyle.

No one has to describe anything just a yes or no would satisfy me. :)

I don't know who M's mom is or if she's in any of the photos.

Either way, is there really something wrong with a little partying, getting together with some friends and having some drinks and adult time???

As far as I know, none of us are Nuns or Saints and we all need to let off a little steam every now and then... I know I do...

JMHO

[Gina_M]

I've been watching the AMW interview of her (without sound because I'm at work) and to me it looks like she may very well be a tweaker. Look closely at her teeth. They look all messed up to me... idk I could be wrong... Why does she always wear a turtleneck in all of her interviews? And what's up with the exaggerated body language/head movements? The exaggeration makes me think she is lying and using the movements to detract from the lies... JMO

ALSO: Watching the interview without sound. It looks EXTREMELY rehearsed. From the eye movements, to the hand movements, it all looks deliberate and planned out...

I had to look up "tweaker", LOL, never heard the word - now I realize it means meth user. I too thought Tina's movements were strange, the way she keeps playing with her hair, tilting her head, etc. It could very well be her way of distracting from the lies. It's like she craves attention, yet at the same time, she's trying to throw suspicion off of herself. (Not doing a very good job of that either!)

And what is her obsession with talking about sex in the AMW interviews? Did anyone notice when she said "I have five children...obviously I've had sex" :doh:

[Shamrock]

Oh yeah that reminds me. Is there any pictures of Ms mom partying on the myspaces. I do not know which one she is and if she is seen partying my opinion will change (not alot, but a little). I just do not know if she just latched onto them because she needed someone in her life, but didn't necessary agree with their lifestyle.

No one has to describe anything just a yes or no would satisfy me. :)

What does her partying have to do with anything? And isn't the definition of 'partying' arbitrary? Whether or not she parties doesn't necessarily have a bearing on her parenting skills.

[dee10134]

That interview makes me sick. Did you hear her defend him by saying he was just exploring his sexuality and finding out what he likes...he would be "dating and having sex" with 3-4 women at the same time as her and she was okay with that? Then mentions that he would look at sex sites on the "web"....gee, what do you think he was looking at? And what computer was he using? Seriously, I hope all of those computers in that house were removed and that hard drive checked out.

GOSH, hasn't this woman heard of AIDS?!

By the way, I'm an IT person. If the computers in the house WERE being used to view child porn, there is NO way possible to completely remove that information, even after formatting (erasing) the hard drive (UNLESS it is exposed to a VERY powerful magnet, disassembled and the platters burned, or drilled directly through the platters).

[Shamrock]

I don't know who M's mom is or if she's in any of the photos.

Either way, is there really something wrong with a little partying, getting together with some friends and having some drinks and adult time???

As far as I know, none of us are Nuns or Saints and we all need to let off a little steam every now and then... I know I do...

JMHO

Agreed. And I know which one is M's mom but I'm not answering the 'partying' question because I don't know what one person constitutes as 'partying'. If you're AT a party, are you partying?? Does that mean you have to be drinking?? I just don't see why it's even an issue.

[dee10134]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

(snip)

And what is her obsession with talking about sex in the AMW interviews? Did anyone notice when she said "I have five children...obviously I've had sex" :doh:

[Chica]

NO, it's okay to bash TINA ALLEN "ex-" girlfriend of CAS, but NOT M's mother. M's mother is presumed an innocent victim in this.

Until LE (or she) proves otherwise, I believe we're told not to bash her.

In mom's defense . . . when my daughter (who is now 29!) was just a toddler, she was very red in her diaper area . . . I brought her to the Dr. and he diagnosed her with a yeast infection, and he said it was quite common. When I saw it, I was very afraid that she was sexually abused, but the Dr. reassured me that she was not!

[cheko1]

We aren't really here to bash anyone, but to find the horrible animal that did this to Patience. They need to find this POS!

However, with Tina...when she leaves herself wide open to public ridicule by perpetually defending this animal...well...it is definitely hard not to! The statements she has made such as him being a great lover are her attempts to explain why she stayed with him as she has all along made this all about her. She is as narcissistic as he is. (Sickens me, but doesn't surprise me.)

Are they any closer to finding this POS? Every day that passes I hope means he has found that hole in the desert to bury himself, but I doubt it. He is such a coward.

I agree with you SS about Tina....
In the AMW interview I thought she was attempting to be CAS shrink.

She seriously should stay off the media band wagon. She needs as much help as he does.

[Squishified]

Jolynna,
Thank you for the post from Glorybug!
Very interesting.

[dee10134]

Agreed. And I know which one is M's mom but I'm not answering the 'partying' question because I don't know what one person constitutes as 'partying'. If you're AT a party, are you partying?? Does that mean you have to be drinking?? I just don't see why it's even an issue.

Neither do I. This woman is probably the same age as Stephani, 24. Of course she will be AT parties with her friends. Of course she needs to let off a little steam sometimes. She's been busting her ass trying to get ahead and a little R&R with friends is often necessary to maintain sanity sometimes.

For all we know, she doesn't even drink or smoke or anything.

That's all I'm saying about that topic.

[Beffie]

What does her partying have to do with anything? And isn't the definition of 'partying' arbitrary? Whether or not she parties doesn't necessarily have a bearing on her parenting skills.

I guess I didn't quite word it right. I am just trying to figure out how close Ms mom is with this family. The family does seem kinda wild (partying, sex) and I am just trying to find out if Ms mom was with them when these parties were going on. That probably still doesn't make much sense. I guess I just would like to know if they are close party buddies or close I need a friend buddy. I think that everyone is entitled to let loose every now and then, and I am no way holding Ms mom responsible for what happened to her. I have had friends that are completely opposite of me, and although I do not agree with their choices they are still my friends.

Did that make more sense. Or should I just shut up now. LOL.

[dottierainbow]

Partying could be involved if there were drugs involved. Drugs are illegal. And if this is going on around children then does everyone think it's ok? Again, I'm saying we do not know the answers. She may very well be a victim. I do not know. I do know that her child is the victim!

[dee10134]

(snipped from Glory's post)

It’s unlikely that any woman who would consider a man ‘good father’ material, who she knows to have a criminal record, has been hit by him, grows and sells drugs, is into S&M/bondage (which after 10 years she obviously accomodated him with), prostitutes, and has been accused of molesting little girls…. would have no problem sweeping a little thing like child rape under the rug. (snip)

There are plenty of people that are into the whole bondage thing and they are wonderful parents, good fathers and mothers, and have wonderful children. Just because you may be a little kinky in the bedroom doesn't mean that you're going to sexually assault a child.

When it comes to the kinky stuff, I say whatever floats your boat as long as it's legal and consensual.

[tiredblondy]

If I remember correctly.

You're not going to believe this but I've been googling IIRC to try to find the name of the organization it stands for!!!!! Oh Boy am I DUH!!:banghead: :doh: :doh: :doh: :banghead: Thanks you Biffie for clearing that up :crazy:

[dee10134]

I guess I didn't quite word it right. I am just trying to figure out how close Ms mom is with this family. The family does seem kinda wild (partying, sex) and I am just trying to find out if Ms mom was with them when these parties were going on. That probably still doesn't make much sense. I guess I just would like to know if they are close party buddies or close I need a friend buddy. I think that everyone is entitled to let loose every now and then, and I am no way holding Ms mom responsible for what happened to her. I have had friends that are completely opposite of me, and although I do not agree with their choices they are still my friends.

Did that make more sense. Or should I just shut up now. LOL.

M's mom was/is best friends with Tina's daughter Stephani. I'm assuming they have been best friends for a very LONG time, so they're like family.

[Beffie]

Partying could be involved if there were drugs involved. Drugs are illegal. And if this is going on around children then does everyone think it's ok?


I guess that was kinda my question I know there was a post about bongs and such...I am just curious, not that anyone deserved what happened to them. I still do not hold anyone responsible except Chester and Tina unless I hear from LE someone else was involved. Everyone else are just victims.

[dee10134]

You're not going to believe this but I've been googling IIRC to try to find the name of the organization it stands for!!!!! Oh Boy am I DUH!!:banghead: :doh: :doh: :doh: :banghead: Thanks you Biffie for clearing that up :crazy:

THANK GOD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! lol :dance:

[Beffie]

You're not going to believe this but I've been googling IIRC to try to find the name of the organization it stands for!!!!! Oh Boy am I DUH!!:banghead: :doh: :doh: :doh: :banghead: Thanks you Biffie for clearing that up :crazy:

Too funny. I have been there and done that. I remember trying to figure out what LE was when the Scott Peterson case was going on. LOL.

[Shamrock]

Did that make more sense. Or should I just shut up now. LOL.

I get what you're saying now. :) Sometimes our thoughts are hard to convey on this board!!

[Beffie]

Maybe it was lost in translation..but since we still seem to be discussing this..
Beffie says:
Yeah I read that too. :doh:

Maybe she thinks the little girls are lucky that their "first" time was with such a great lover. :banghead:

Maybe I misread and jumped the gun with my response..if so I am sorry..anyway I am beating a dead horse here so nevermind..:)

:blowkiss:

Sorry if I was rude to you in return. This case is just so personal to me. One of my family members reminds me so much of Tina and her boyfriend reminds me of Chester and I keep saying what if I ever left my kids with this family member, and my husband will get mad and say yeah but you never did. But, it is a thought that I cannot shake. This person in my family was so blind and her boyfriend was so evil and I know what I went through and how much this person would lie and try to protect their loser boyfriend. He even lied and said he was in the navy too...it is just so troublesome to me. :(

[MsPooh]

:blowkiss:

Sorry if I was rude to you in return. This case is just so personal to me. One of my family members reminds me so much of Tina and her boyfriend reminds me of Chester and I keep saying what if I ever left my kids with this family member, and my husband will get mad and say yeah but you never did. But, it is a thought that I cannot shake. This person in my family was so blind and her boyfriend was so evil and I know what I went through and how much this person would lie and try to protect their loser boyfriend. He even lied and said he was in the navy too...it is just so troublesome to me. :(

that's understandable, my own mother was a Tina..go figure

[bakerprune64]

:clap: Thank You for the most excellent post SS. Hey people how about this....let's take all this energy and focus it on finding this ass, and putting him behind bars. Nothing good is coming out of this recent thread...rally people...lets' find him:)

[Beffie]

"Let's go after Tina's other children while we are at it!" is what I am hearing. Sheesh! This is about CHESTER ARTHUR STILES and finding him so they can put him where he belongs.

Gosh, that is not what I think. I think we are just concerned for their welfare. Tina had this monster with her and she had young children in the house.

I have been made fun of for the longest time because I will not let anyone post pictures of myself or my kids online. Not even in shared photo albums. I am paranoid, but I do not want the pictures to end up in the wrong hands. This just makes me realize how happy I am that they cannot come back to bite me in the rear later.

[Beffie]

that's understandable, my own mother was a Tina..go figure

Sorry. :( I think that will make us better moms, right? My husband and I will joke and say what would our parents do...okay we will do the complete opposite. LMBO

[SeriouslySearching]

Gosh, that is not what I think. I think we are just concerned for their welfare. Tina had this monster with her and she had young children in the house.

I have been made fun of for the longest time because I will not let anyone post pictures of myself or my kids online. Not even in shared photo albums. I am paranoid, but I do not want the pictures to end up in the wrong hands. This just makes me realize how happy I am that they cannot come back to bite me in the rear later.While I have concern for any child who has come into contact with this POS, LE is aware of the situation and will handle it from here. If we look up every child and post them here...does it serve in the best interest of those children and show concern for their welfare? The answer is an absolute and resounding NO!

[KOOL LOOK]

Hi everyone,

There has to be a female involved in this child rape case. I believe it's Tina who aided and betted if not was a participant in one or more occassions. In the tape that law enforcement has, she may not have been in the tape, But she's the one matriarch, head person in control with authority over the children when they were abused. There's your link.

I don't think Pateience's mother was involved in any abuse concerning M, I do believe out of naivity she didn't pursue the obvious signs of sexual rape and molestation of her duaghter. I don't believe she was experienced as most aren't at her age of motherhood. I do believe her concerns were brought up around or directly to Tina and Tina covered for Chester, covering the fact of possible odd behavior, redness, swelling, bleeding, etc...

I also think Tina offered and even may have went as far as offering to keep Patience longer than originally planned so some healing could occur to help thwart any obvious abuse signs on her body. Also so Patience's mind and memory could be blurred and forget the days rape and grooming. Young children rarely even talk about the prior days events at these ages.

This case is bigger than just chester the molestor, it's got Tina the assistant. I hope LE is looking real hard at Tina too, there are legitimate reasons pointing in her direction also, not just Chester.
There was sexual activities of taping and filming going on in the apartment, by consenting adults which no one has a problem with, but that's how these abuses was so easily filmed to begin with.

Tina is the source, link and coverup for Chester, that's why he always comes back. That's why he hasn't gotten caught yet, she's always covered for his criminal behaviors. Anyone in their right mind, would know if a sexual child rape was filmed and occurred with the child you were in charge over happened in your square box of space you dwelled in.

Patience's mother was young, and believed Tina, who had raised her own kids, babysat many others and she felt Tina was much more experienced and trusted her opinions. She was right, Tina is very experienced. She has admitted to knowing Chesters deviant sexual appetites, she knew. I say keep giving her the rope, she's hanging herself.

I think her son and daughter know more too, or at least suspected but didn't have proof. I believe now that this has unfolded, they've had time to think about circumstances and events in the past and things are starting to come together and make sense to them where in the past they didn't have confirmation concerning their suspicions. I'm not at all placing or pointing any fingers at them, understand clearly. Just making observations, as they may have being in contact with Chester and Tina so closely.

There's a thread right now on this same forum, where the step daughter assisted the step dad in raping children. It's far more common than we know. Very seldom is a child perp who does it in the home is not in some way assisted by a female, if not just in the fact of supplying the child, turning the other cheek, especially if the child isn't the perps own child and has rights to be around the child during all hours of the day and night.

[dee10134]

Exactly, if it's Tina's "job" to divert attention from maggot Chester Arthur Stiles, then she's doing a great job.

We seem to have lost focus on the REAL perp here!

[Beffie]

While I have concern for any child who has come into contact with this POS, LE is aware of the situation and will handle it from here. If we look up every child and post them here...does it serve in the best interest of those children and show concern for their welfare? The answer is an absolute and resounding NO!


I completely agree with you. I just do not think anyone is trying to hurt them, just curious, which is really no one business, but the family really has opened themselves up. We wouldn't of been able to figure out who everyone was without them going on tv. I do agree we should leave the rest of the family alone, but do understand the curiousity. Thats all. :blowkiss:

[dee10134]

(snip)

Tina is the source, link and coverup for Chester, that's why he always comes back. That's why he hasn't gotten caught yet, she's always covered for his criminal behaviors. Anyone in their right mind, would know if a sexual child rape was filmed and occurred with the child you were in charge over happened in your square box of space you dwelled in. (snip)

VERY WELL SAID!

Tina is just as guilty as Chester IMO.

There's a passage in the Bible that says something like "love is patient, love is blind..." and in this case, love really is blind because Tina has been blinded by Chester's charms and has been under his utmost control for the past 10 years, probably doing EVERYTHING he has asked of her AND THEN SOME.

So why wouldn't he come back? He has his "cover girl" helping deflect attention from him and making up MORE excuses for his behavior. Of course he will come back for her. He cannot live without her. She cannot live without him. As far as I'm concerned they DESERVE each other and will rot in hell with each other.

In the mean time, once they're both caught up, they can write romantic letters to each other from their prison cells... :twocents:

[Beffie]

KOOL LOOK thank you for posting that wonderful post. This is how I feel and you word it so well. :clap:

[SieSie]

Haven't had time to catch up on Thread #5 or this new one, and I'm running late right now... just wanted to say thanks to blaize for the post (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1716773&postcount=36) with the great compilation of pics on page 2 of the Photo and Link Thread (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53996&page=2).

If he's gained weight, as some have claimed, then the picture from 1994 would be a great one to start editing hair and facial hair. When I get home later today I'll try to catch up with these threads.

If he's caught, can someone please PM me? I'm so worried I'll miss it since I won't be around the t.v. or computer.

Okay, gotta run. Catch you all later. Keep up the great work!

[Jaded]

I thought I read somewhere that LE stated there was another individual in the room during the filming. My guess - it was Tina.

With regard to some of the heated discussion regarding the child's mother. I haven't seen anyone flat out insult this child's mother. People are "wondering" why she didn't notice signs of abuse - and in every other thread involving child abuse, this question is one that is always asked. Members are opining, which IMO is the purpose of a forum - to share different viewpoints and possibilities of whodunnit. Not everyone is going to agree, and when we don't I think it's a bit unfair that others jump on those who aren't towing the party line. What happened to just respecting each others' opinions and letting it go at that?

[Beffie]

Haven't had time to catch up on Thread #5 or this new one, and I'm running late right now... just wanted to say thanks to blaize for the post (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1716773&postcount=36) with the great compilation of pics on page 2 of the Photo and Link Thread (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53996&page=2).

If he's gained weight, as some have claimed, then the picture from 1994 would be a great one to start editing hair and facial hair. When I get home later today I'll try to catch up with these threads.

If he's caught, can someone please PM me? I'm so worried I'll miss it since I won't be around the t.v. or computer.

Okay, gotta run. Catch you all later. Keep up the great work!

Thank you for all your help. If I am here I will PM you with the wonderful news. I have a few errands to run, so maybe others can offer as well and hopefully between all of us you will get the good news. :)

[SeriouslySearching]

You will know if he is caught, SieSie...because the ground will be shaking with everyone collectively clapping and jumping for joy!

[DeltaDawn]

My thoughts are that Tina knew something about this, and that is why she is on National TV, to cover her butt, instead of talking with LE, little M and her Mom. If Tina is this concerned, caring individual then why hasn't she contacted this little girl's mother? At the very least an apology is due her.

I think that the partying lifestyle of Tina and CAS is what is fundamental because they became the role models for their kids. I think that the kids party because that is uausl, the norm to them.

However I don't bash M's mother or Stephani or Todd. I belevie they really all loved this little girl and never thought this would happen..because their first reaction was how would CAS get time alone to do this? Which means they didn't have CAS around them because they didn't like him. Which means he obviously did this while Tina was Babysitting the children.
This means that even though these kids partied they didn't want CAS around them or their kids. Stephani knew he was a monster from her reaction when she first saw his face ...she literally backed away and said she didn't even want to imagine what he had done....meaning he is capable of anything.
The kids are not to blame for Tina's lifestyle or her choices. I dooubt she ever gets to even see these kids again.
She and Todd are not doing MOTHER / SON INTERVIEWS either...because the kids have their own take on this and are thoroughly discusted with her right now.
I am sure they are really sorry they ever trusted Tina's sorry butt to watch their kids. I am almost certain at this point that Tina would have been the one helping CAS, even if she was too dumb and drugged to realize this. I think M's Mom was clueless as to what was happening..and I think there are probably more young children out there that he abused.

[Squishified]

You will know if he is caught, SieSie...because the ground will be shaking with everyone collectively clapping and jumping for joy!
......and Websleuths will crash!

[Beffie]

:My thoughts are that Tina knew something about this, and that is why she is on National TV, to cover her butt, instead of talking with LE, little M and her Mom. If Tina is this concerned, caring individual then hasn't she contacted this little girl's mother? At the very least an apology is due her.

One thing that I remember (I wrote this yesterday) is on the Press conference by the sheriff on Friday he said he didn't think the mother would come forward. Why would they say that if there was not someone else either seen, heard or talked to during the tape (a female). That statement has always stuck with me and made me think they thought the mother (which is turn is Tina the babysitter) was involved.

I was just watching a interview with a mother that is serving 9 years for offering her seven year old girl for sex to a undercover officer, like someone said it happens more then we want to know. Which by the way she says was just a misunderstanding that she would of never let anything happen to her daughter even though she showed up at a motel with her daughter and a duffle bag filled with clothes for her daughter to dress up in and adult sex toys. Yep just a misunderstanding.:furious:

[DeltaDawn]

[quote=Beffie;1716944]:

One thing that I remember (I wrote this yesterday) is on the Press conference by the sheriff on Friday he said he didn't think the mother would come forward. Why would they say that if there was not someone else either seen, heard or talked to during the tape (a female). That statement has always stuck with me and made me think they thought the mother (which is turn is Tina the babysitter) was involved.

Beffie,
IIRC, Right after that he said he thought that she would come forward at some future date, but right now the family was not going to amke a statement. And they did have their attorney come forward to make a statement.

[bakerprune64]

......and Websleuths will crash!

Squish, you owe me a new monitor!!

[Beffie]

IIRC, Right after that he said he thought that she would come forward at some future date, but right now the family was not going to amke a statement. And they did have their attorney come forward to make a statement.

This was before they found her. This was when they released her name and Chesters name. It was the afternoon news conference not the later one where they annouced she was found and safe.

[Squishified]

Maybe when the sheriff made his remarks about the mom not coming forward he had thought Tina was the mom??

[blaize]

Haven't had time to catch up on Thread #5 or this new one, and I'm running late right now... just wanted to say thanks to blaize for the post (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1716773&postcount=36) with the great compilation of pics on page 2 of the Photo and Link Thread (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53996&page=2).

If he's gained weight, as some have claimed, then the picture from 1994 would be a great one to start editing hair and facial hair. When I get home later today I'll try to catch up with these threads.

If he's caught, can someone please PM me? I'm so worried I'll miss it since I won't be around the t.v. or computer.

Okay, gotta run. Catch you all later. Keep up the great work!

Welcome SieSie, thank you.

[Squishified]

Squish, you owe me a new monitor!!
Alright, I'll get my checkbook out!

[dottierainbow]

Well said Jaded! Now everyone lets just agree to disagree.:silenced: I thought I read somewhere that LE stated there was another individual in the room during the filming. My guess - it was Tina.

With regard to some of the heated discussion regarding the child's mother. I haven't seen anyone flat out insult this child's mother. People are "wondering" why she didn't notice signs of abuse - and in every other thread involving child abuse, this question is one that is always asked. Members are opining, which IMO is the purpose of a forum - to share different viewpoints and possibilities of whodunnit. Not everyone is going to agree, and when we don't I think it's a bit unfair that others jump on those who aren't towing the party line. What happened to just respecting each others' opinions and letting it go at that?

[Beffie]

Maybe when the sheriff made his remarks about the mom not coming forward he had thought Tina was the mom??

That is what I thought. Tina is on that tape show how. Whether it was Chet yelling something into the other room or her yelling something or even being on the tape. I just got the feeling someone was there (they thought it was the mother, but it was Tina).

[DeltaDawn]

Gotcha , Beffie, I am trying to keep up here but I missed that. So then they must have heard a female adult voice or saw part of an adult female's body..face , hand, etc to make that statement
I agree then that they are more then likely thinking Tina as the helper on this job..whatever her capcity was.
I think Stiles in SO CAL because he had enough of a headstart to travel there and get set up there since then. I don't think he is hanging in the sewers or a homeless shelter either. I think he is in SO CAL well protected by his friends who are porbably perverts an druggies. Since his appearance has changed so much he would just fade right in wherever he wanted to.

[KOOL LOOK]

Exactly, if it's Tina's "job" to divert attention from maggot Chester Arthur Stiles, then she's doing a great job.

That's why the first thing that came out of her mouth in her first interview was, "don't bother the child, don't question her!!!!" Absolute giveaway to her culpability and knowledge, she doesn't want this child questioned at all, or the mother, because the mother could possibly recall something unusual that didn't appear questionable until now.

We seem to have lost focus on the REAL perp here! I haven't lost focus on the perps.

I completely agree with you. I just do not think anyone is trying to hurt them, just curious, which is really no one business, but the family really has opened themselves up. We wouldn't of been able to figure out who everyone was without them going on tv. I do agree we should leave the rest of the family alone, but do understand the curiousity. Thats all. :blowkiss:

I haven't seen any bashing of the family. Sadly, I haven't seen any of little Maddy's support system, like grandparents, father, aunts and uncles. Just Tina's family, as if their the only family. Having myspace accounts, you have opened yourself up to public opinion!

VERY WELL SAID! Thank you. Someone dressed Patience and told her how to act and not cry, scream etc...

Tina is just as guilty as Chester IMO. Amen!

There's a passage in the Bible that says something like "love is patient, love is blind..." and in this case, love really is blind because Tina has been blinded by Chester's charms and has been under his utmost control for the past 10 years, probably doing EVERYTHING he has asked of her AND THEN SOME.

Te He, Love is patient, love is kind! :dance:

So why wouldn't he come back? He has his "cover girl" helping deflect attention from him and making up MORE excuses for his behavior. Of course he will come back for her. He cannot live without her. She cannot live without him. As far as I'm concerned they DESERVE each other and will rot in hell with each other.

In the mean time, once they're both caught up, they can write romantic letters to each other from their prison cells... :twocents:

Great post!

KOOL LOOK thank you for posting that wonderful post. This is how I feel and you word it so well. :clap:

Beffie, one good thing, I believe we're going to catch more and more of these predators and accomplises, it's not going to be as easy as it use to be. I just hope society doesn't get de-sensatized and not care anymore.

I thought I read somewhere that LE stated there was another individual in the room during the filming. My guess - it was Tina.

Several of our posters felt there was another image in that picture on the tv that was standing on the left hand side of Chester nude, I could see the image too. LE in my opinion are working very hard to uncover every detail, they've done a fantastic job, those persecuting them aught to be shot.

With regard to some of the heated discussion regarding the child's mother. I haven't seen anyone flat out insult this child's mother. People are "wondering" why she didn't notice signs of abuse - and in every other thread involving child abuse, this question is one that is always asked. Members are opining, which IMO is the purpose of a forum - to share different viewpoints and possibilities of whodunnit. Not everyone is going to agree, and when we don't I think it's a bit unfair that others jump on those who aren't towing the party line. What happened to just respecting each others' opinions and letting it go at that?

Unfortunately, the mother should be looked at and ruled out, that's protocol. I feel she was just young and taken advantage of in her time of need when she needed to be loved and supported.

You will know if he is caught, SieSie...because the ground will be shaking with everyone collectively clapping and jumping for joy!

Hi friend, missed you. Thanks for keeping the eye on the main thing, the perp.

......and Websleuths will crash!

You got that right, te he! :dance: :dance:

[Beffie]

I haven't seen any bashing of the family. Sadly, I haven't seen any of little M's support system, like grandparents, father, aunts and uncles. Just Tina's family, as if their the only family. Having myspace accounts, you have opened yourself up to public opinion!




Or maybe they have enough respect for M that they are supporting her in private. Which is what true friends and family should do IMO. With the Allens going public they just made it easier to find her.

[philamena]

Finished watching Tina's AMW interview......:doh:
I'm sorry but this woman has a screw loose.
Why did she even mention that the scumbag was a good lover.
I'm offended by her stupidity.

Doesn't she know that rape doesn't have anything to do with sex?!?!?:furious:
Is she using that bs to explain the brutal rape of a little girl?!?!?!?:banghead:

[philamena]

.... Not everyone is going to agree, and when we don't I think it's a bit unfair that others jump on those who aren't towing the party line. What happened to just respecting each others' opinions and letting it go at that?
Jaded,:clap:
I appreciate your post!

[angarella]

Where is this scum? Where is he? Someone knows. He needs to be found and found fast. :furious::behindbar:furious:

Sorry, had to vent a moment.

[dee10134]

Finished watching Tina's AMW interview......:doh:
I'm sorry but this woman has a screw loose.
Why did she even mention that the scumbag was a good lover.
I'm offended by her stupidity.

Doesn't she know that rape doesn't have anything to do with sex?!?!?:furious:
Is she using that bs to explain the brutal rape of a little girl?!?!?!?:banghead:

Rape has everything to do with CONTROL. CAS has a history of controlling people, especially Tina Allen.

I can see how the bondage comes in. If he's so good at controlling people in normal life, then he must have been seeing the dominatrix in Pahrump so he can lose a little control... let someone else have that control over him?

[Squishified]

Where is this scum? Where is he? Someone knows. He needs to be found and found fast. :furious::behindbar:furious:

Sorry, had to vent a moment.
We're hoping today's the day.

Off topic, but I saw your photo on the photo thread with the cigarette in your hand. I loved it! You are so cute. :)

[Shari_Gal]

I just watched the video and she is wearing a ring on her wedding ring finger...is it a ring from Chester?

She said he was trying to teach his bang to go back..like a GQ look??

Two years into the relationship she noticed he was violent. Broke up in 2001 and he went to live with someone else. She mentions that while he was working with Sigfried and Roy he was exploring S&M and Bondage (which I think is funny she mentions the job because he worked for them for two weeks). She explains how he was exploring his sexuality and she couldn't bash anyone for that as long as it didn't hurt anyone.

That is my summary for those of you without sound.

While he was working for Sigfried & Roy CAS was exploring S&M and bondage? I wish he'd explored bondage by getting tied up and having the tigers and white lions drag him around:croc:

[Squishified]

While he was working for Sigfried & Roy CAS was exploring S&M and bondage? I wish he'd explored bondage by getting tied up and having the tigers and white lions drag him around:croc:
That would've been nice.
As someone posted earlier, the tiger bit the wrong guy.

[dottierainbow]

I wonder of Chester is bald? Or could be dressed as a woman.

[philamena]

:laugh:.... Or could be dressed as a woman.

Even though I hate CAS more than anyone on earth, I have to say that made me laugh out loud. That pos will make one butt ugly woman.

[2luvmy]

Or maybe they have enough respect for M that they are supporting her in private. Which is what true friends and family should do IMO. With the Allens going public they just made it easier to find her.

I agree. If something that horrid happened to one of my children I wouldn't want family members etc. talking in public, that more of a chance that people would figure out who my child is.

[dee10134]

:laugh:

Even though I hate CAS more than anyone on earth, I have to say that made me laugh out loud. That pos will make one butt ugly woman.

A butt ugly 6'2" woman at that!!! :D

[angarella]

We're hoping today's the day.

Off topic, but I saw your photo on the photo thread with the cigarette in your hand. I loved it! You are so cute. :)


If today was the day, that would be great. Trying to keep the faith here on my end.

O/T: Thank you. :blowkiss:

[sillygoose]

VERY WELL SAID!

There's a passage in the Bible that says something like "love is patient, love is blind..." and in this case, love really is blind because Tina has been blinded by Chester's charms and has been under his utmost control for the past 10 years, probably doing EVERYTHING he has asked of her AND THEN SOME.


The Bible doesn't say love is blind. Perhaps you are talking about the "love chapter" which is 1 Corinthians 13. It says love is patient, love is kind. Not blind. Tina does not really love CAS. She loves her own selfish desires. That's why she does not care what kind of evil CAS does as long as her desires are fulfilled. I believe she's an evil person just as much as I believe CAS is evil. If they had pure, true love for anybody but themselves, neither would have done the things they had done. When you only care about yourself, you will do anything and everything to fulfill whatever addiction you are bound to. It doesn't matter who gets hurt in the process. Both Tina and CAS need to be stopped, now!

[Shamrock]

sillygoose - Very well-said!!

[SeriouslySearching]

CAS and Tina do not know what love is. It isn't in their sick, twisted world.

[dimples37398]

When I watched the sex interview of her talking about him, my thing is I know about Bondage and all that stuff, but what amazes me is that she knows how to pronounce that one thing perfectly like she knows exactly what it is. Sadomaciosm.....lol(SP?) What is that? I don't really wanna search for it, no telling what might come up online. I think Tina knows alot more than she is letting on, ALOT MORE!!!!!!!!!

I have found some things on a myspace page today, Just by looking pics of a kid on there, it might be CAS's son(EX's) myspace maybe. This kid has CAS's ears for sure.

Kel

Kel

[dee10134]

The Bible doesn't say love is blind. Perhaps you are talking about the "love chapter" which is 1 Corinthians 13. It says love is patient, love is kind. Not blind. Tina does not really love CAS. She loves her own selfish desires. That's why she does not care what kind of evil CAS does as long as her desires are fulfilled. I believe she's an evil person just as much as I believe CAS is evil. If they had pure, true love for anybody but themselves, neither would have done the things they had done. When you only care about yourself, you will do anything and everything to fulfill whatever addiction you are bound to. It doesn't matter who gets hurt in the process. Both Tina and CAS need to be stopped, now!

LOL :doh: Like I said I'm not a nun or a saint..... :innocent:

[Squishified]

When I watched the sex interview of her talking about him, my thing is I know about Bondage and all that stuff, but what amazes me is that she knows how to pronounce that one thing perfectly like she knows exactly what it is. Sadomaciosm.....lol(SP?) What is that? I don't really wanna search for it, no telling what might come up online. I think Tina knows alot more than she is letting on, ALOT MORE!!!!!!!!!

I have found some things on a myspace page today, Just by looking pics of a kid on there, it might be CAS's son(EX's) myspace maybe. This kid has CAS's ears for sure.

Kel

Kel
Sadomacichism (I KNOW I spelt it wrong!) is the proper "term" for S&M.
I think it means you like giving pain AND receiving pain.

[dimples37398]

Also I don't know if everyone knows, but if you click on the rock you slideshows on the family myspace where it says View...it will take you to the photo album and all there slideshows and pics....

kel

[dee10134]

Sadomacichism (I KNOW I spelt it wrong!) is the proper "term" for S&M.
I think it means you like giving pain AND receiving pain.

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadism_and_masochism

[dimples37398]

Thanks a bunch, I had no clue. I am definately not a nun or saint or prude, but I have heard that word and didn't know what it meant and didn't really wanna do a search for it.....hehehehehe

[TGIRecovered]

The Bible doesn't say love is blind. Perhaps you are talking about the "love chapter" which is 1 Corinthians 13. It says love is patient, love is kind. Not blind. Tina does not really love CAS. She loves her own selfish desires. That's why she does not care what kind of evil CAS does as long as her desires are fulfilled. I believe she's an evil person just as much as I believe CAS is evil. If they had pure, true love for anybody but themselves, neither would have done the things they had done. When you only care about yourself, you will do anything and everything to fulfill whatever addiction you are bound to. It doesn't matter who gets hurt in the process. Both Tina and CAS need to be stopped, now!


You are a wise goose, silly!

[Squishified]

Thanks a bunch, I had no clue. I am definately not a nun or saint or prude, but I have heard that word and didn't know what it meant and didn't really wanna do a search for it.....hehehehehe
I know. I felt awkward trying to explain it!

[dimples37398]

lol.......don't feel awkward....hehehehe....I appreciate it, imagine how awkward I would have felt asking someone what it was in person.....hehe

Thanks again,
Kel

[angarella]

When I watched the sex interview of her talking about him, my thing is I know about Bondage and all that stuff, but what amazes me is that she knows how to pronounce that one thing perfectly like she knows exactly what it is. Sadomaciosm.....lol(SP?) What is that? I don't really wanna search for it, no telling what might come up online. I think Tina knows alot more than she is letting on, ALOT MORE!!!!!!!!!

I have found some things on a myspace page today, Just by looking pics of a kid on there, it might be CAS's son(EX's) myspace maybe. This kid has CAS's ears for sure.

Kel

Kel

I noticed that too Kel, she pulled that word off without a hitch. I thought it was interesting.

[Mygirlsadie]

Yea she pulled off that word like she was some big shot smart lady..ooohhhhhh! ( now we just need the 'rolling eyes' smiley hehe)




I noticed that too Kel, she pulled that word off without a hitch. I thought it was interesting.

[cheko1]

Yea she pulled off that word like she was some big shot smart lady..ooohhhhhh! ( now we just need the 'rolling eyes' smiley hehe)

Yeah I wanted to slap her for it!

[angarella]

You know what you know. :D

[WhiteWolf]

VERY WELL SAID!

Tina is just as guilty as Chester IMO.

There's a passage in the Bible that says something like "love is patient, love is blind..." and in this case, love really is blind because Tina has been blinded by Chester's charms and has been under his utmost control for the past 10 years, probably doing EVERYTHING he has asked of her AND THEN SOME.

So why wouldn't he come back? He has his "cover girl" helping deflect attention from him and making up MORE excuses for his behavior. Of course he will come back for her. He cannot live without her. She cannot live without him. As far as I'm concerned they DESERVE each other and will rot in hell with each other.

In the mean time, once they're both caught up, they can write romantic letters to each other from their prison cells... :twocents:


excellent post!

Kudos to KoolLook, too.

Tina unwittingly gave CAS an air of normalcy because she allowed him arround her children, and bragged him up as such a good father figure. I don*t know if Tina has the mental awareness to know just how much CAS used her and is still using her. Sad case anyway you look at it.

[dee10134]

I just reviewed the AMW interview and I think that really IS an engagement ring on her left hand...

[Jaded]

I just reviewed the AMW interview and I think that really IS an engagement ring on her left hand...

It could be because Todd referred to CAS as Tina's fiance' on his journal entry.

[CityPea]

I just watched the video and she is wearing a ring on her wedding ring finger...is it a ring from Chester?

She said he was trying to teach his bang to go back..like a GQ look??

Two years into the relationship she noticed he was violent. Broke up in 2001 and he went to live with someone else. She mentions that while he was working with Sigfried and Roy he was exploring S&M and Bondage (which I think is funny she mentions the job because he worked for them for two weeks). She explains how he was exploring his sexuality and she couldn't bash anyone for that as long as it didn't hurt anyone.

That is my summary for those of you without sound.

When Tina associated CAS' "exploration" of S&M with his work for Siegfried and Roy, that set off my BS alarm big time. It is typical of people who are harboring guilt to attempt to divert suspicion from themselves by casting aspersions on someone belonging to a group that they think is hated or feared by many people. It's a boogeyman red herring, if you will.

Susan Smith played on racial bigotry by claiming that a scary looking black man abducted her sons. Tina Allen now claims that CAS' kinky behavior is the result of his association with known homosexuals. But it's pretty clear from this family's obsession with plastering their photos and the details of their personal lives all over the Internet that they regularly cross traditional sexual boundaries.

That doesn't make them all child molesters but to distance herself from a sexual lifestyle with which her family seemed very comfortable by pinning CAS' S&M preferences on Siegfried and Roy is really just detestable. Tina Allen doesn't care who she has to smear to get the dirt off of her own hands.

[dee10134]

It could be because Todd referred to CAS as Tina's fiance' on his journal entry.

Yeah but she was his fiance in 2004. You'd think you'd take it off once your fiance is accused of raping a 2 year old.

I think the ring on her hand is a symbol to HIM. The way she talks PRIMARILY with her left hand in an exaggerated fashion tells me that maybe he is watching that somewhere... maybe it's a sign to him....

Just a thought... I don't know if it's just my imagination running wild or what, but it's a theory of mine...

One more thing: I noticed she tends to look directly into the camera when she's flashing the ring. Be it, brushing her hair back, adjusting her glasses, etc. she makes sure she's looking at the camera when she's flashing that ring!!!

[richandfamous]

Also I don't know if everyone knows, but if you click on the rock you slideshows on the family myspace where it says View...it will take you to the photo album and all there slideshows and pics....

kel

link for "family myspace" please...thx

[CaliKid]

excellent post!

Kudos to KoolLook, too.

Tina unwittingly gave CAS an air of normalcy because she allowed him arround her children, and bragged him up as such a good father figure. I don*t know if Tina has the mental awareness to know just how much CAS used her and is still using her. Sad case anyway you look at it.

Yes, but Tina is allowing herself to be used and, thereby, allowing him to abuse children. I don't feel sorry for her at all.

[Tom'sGirl]

link for "family myspace" please...thx
At photo link http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1712211&postcount=22

[WhiteWolf]

Yes, but Tina is allowing herself to be used and, thereby, allowing him to abuse children. I don't feel sorry for her at all.



Oh, I don*t feel sorry for her, either. I*m just saying she is so in denial, she is too brainwashed to see just how manipulated she looks. these perverts need some sort of front to be able to slide under the pervert radar.

[Jaded]

Yeah but she was his fiance in 2004. You'd think you'd take it off once your fiance is accused of raping a 2 year old.

I think the ring on her hand is a symbol to HIM. The way she talks PRIMARILY with her left hand in an exaggerated fashion tells me that maybe he is watching that somewhere... maybe it's a sign to him....

Just a thought... I don't know if it's just my imagination running wild or what, but it's a theory of mine...

One more thing: I noticed she tends to look directly into the camera when she's flashing the ring. Be it, brushing her hair back, adjusting her glasses, etc. she makes sure she's looking at the camera when she's flashing that ring!!!

Great observation. Maybe she's showing the ring to the camera in hopes that Chester the Molester sees that she's rooting for him. The more she yaps, the more I am totally disgusted by this woman.

[WhiteWolf]

Has anyone figured out what Tina does for a living? she mentioned a back injury so maybe she is drawing disability? My guess is she probably works for her friend*s phone sex business :)

[Taximom]

If she is covering for him, then she must be guilty of something. He'll tell all if he's found. It's in her best interest if he's not found. ARGH.

[philamena]

A butt ugly 6'2" woman at that!!! :D

:pThat's even funnier.

[Dryad]

Has anyone figured out what Tina does for a living? she mentioned a back injury so maybe she is drawing disability? My guess is she probably works for her friend*s phone sex business :)

That's why the word "Sadomaschachism" rolled so easily off of her forked tongue! :loser:

[SeriouslySearching]

Did anyone stop to think that Tina being the older partner might be the master manipulater in this? For ten years, she could have gotten him into her deviant sex world and encouraged his sick, twisted side which included adult and child porn. Maybe the reason she didn't leave was because she was the one pulling the strings and making money off him.

[Dryad]

Did anyone stop to think that Tina being the older partner might be the master manipulater in this? For ten years, she could have gotten him into her deviant sex world and encouraged his sick, twisted side which included adult and child porn. Maybe the reason she didn't leave was because she was the one pulling the strings and making money off him.

These "women" he dated simultaneously could have had young children too and it was just one big pornography ring he was involved in. He could have been doing the same thing to their friend's children. Very possible.

[LMax]

Do we already know that Todd has a page at yahoo? Just noticed it and there is a blog there also...haven't read it. If you can't get to it from this link, he uses the same "name" as his myspace. http://360.yahoo.com/profile-1Lw2qHcib7SzTsbtpC49ct1r

[WhiteWolf]

Did anyone stop to think that Tina being the older partner might be the master manipulater in this? For ten years, she could have gotten him into her deviant sex world and encouraged his sick, twisted side which included adult and child porn. Maybe the reason she didn't leave was because she was the one pulling the strings and making money off him.



I don*t know if she was the major manipulator, but she obviously gave CAS a free rein (reign?) to do what ever he wanted to do since she would always take him back. CAS abused her, had other women, physically abused at least one of her sons, went from job to job, and she didn*t enforce any moral, physical, or sexual boundaries with him.

[DeltaDawn]

Saw that one too, LMAX, but thank you for posting it.

People Tina is so much involed with this guy, my belief still is, that's why she is on every Nat'l TV station that will take her interviews is because she is trying to throw searches for CAS in another direction. She has yet to discover that LE will still get CAS and that she will go down with him. ( NO PUN INTENDED)

It's not love/ hate now, it's survival tactics for her and her finance CAS. This is unreal because he is no where near Vegas..whenever they needed to disappear in the past Le Cajon was at the top of the list..and since all the kids seem to have been there, I'm sure they have a network of adults who are into the same things as Tina & CAS.

SO CAL MEMBERS...How much is CAS face on TV and posters there in your area.

[SuziQ]

Speaking of Tina. Where is she? We haven't heard from her in two days.

[Al_B]

did tina ever speak to local le and has it ever been verified that she spoke to fbi?

[DeltaDawn]

did tina ever speak to local le and has it ever been verified that she spoke to fbi?
As of yestersay evening Tina was not speaking to Vegas LE and they wanted to speak to her....come to your own conclusion on that one...she states on LKL that she thinks he will come for her , fears for her own safety, but she doesn't call Le and kept giving interviews.
Okay then

[DeltaDawn]

I really think that you need to watch Tina's interviews...and then surmise these are half truths...she has added alittle truth and a lot of fiction...you need to read between the lines. Liars always use some truth to convince others of the fiction...in this case Tina is lying her pants off...jail looks pretty bad to her right now..but life in SO CAL with Cas doesn't.

[DeltaDawn]

So Cal Members,

Are there posters and Tv spots about CAS?

[LMax]

Grasping at straws... Did Chet live anywhere near this location? http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7171296

[Al_B]

Amy,
Thank you -- no I had not seen that article. But I will be sure to include it in my follow-up stories.

Thank you very much!!!

- Jesse

from Jesse Corona
I sent him the article from the navy times
cause I got sick of hearing how he was this or that

[Al_B]

By the way, here's a newsflash: according an article that was printed in the Navy Times today, Chester Stiles was NOT, I repeat, NOT a former Navy SEAL (as he told his former girlfriend Tina Allen). Big Shocker there. The Times article says that Stiles was discharged from the Navy after spending a year (1988-1989) as an Engineman Fireman recruit. Having served almost 6 years in the Navy myself, I detest people that make false claims about their service record. Claiming to have been a SEAL is a common lie for wanna-be's with delusions of grandeur about their own abilities. Oh, and how do you only serve one year in the Navy? I can think of only 3 ways: medical discharge, administrative discharge, or the Big Chicken Dinner (bad conduct discharge) - but none of those quite have the same ring as "Navy SEAL", do they Chet?
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7121402&nav=menu107_1

well it's out now at least we can maybe stop hearing this lie

[philamena]

CAS , come out, come out where ever you are!
It's time for your arrest. Scum like you need to be off the streets.

[LMax]

I checked the San Diego news stations, but didn't find anything recent mentioned. The landslides and water main break have taken over the news. Hopefully his picture got out there enough for someone to recognize him. I'm from the opposite coast, so I'm sorry I can't help you DeltaDawn.

[KOOL LOOK]

excellent post!

Kudos to KoolLook, too.

Tina unwittingly gave CAS an air of normalcy because she allowed him arround her children, and bragged him up as such a good father figure. I don*t know if Tina has the mental awareness to know just how much CAS used her and is still using her. Sad case anyway you look at it.

Thank you, I could write more in depth about my feelings towards this situation, but I would be forever banned. When this goes to trial, maybe then we can have a thread describing how we truly deeply feel for the two known perps at this time. Hopefully, there's no more involved. I sure hope there's no more children involved.

It's only a matter of time before Chester is caught. When the computer forensics come back, I sure hope it busts Tina too, she's more involved than what meets the eye. It's not just a girlfriend situation either. This little girl stayed and was baby sat by Tina, Tina had to have some tricks up her sleeves in order for this little girl to not react out in hysterics as she would become aware of being left in the care of Tina. For we now know that's where the bogeyman lived.

Have we got any information on the father and has he spoken at all concerning this case and his daughter? Or is he a deadbeat dad who doesn't give a rip one way or the other?

Chester will be caught, turn yourself in. Tina should do the right thing and lead the police to him. They had to have had conversations prior to this tape being exposed as to what they would do if ever it was found. Some kind of conversation between them on what each would do if it was discovered. Especially since Chester was already a wanted warranted man for similar charges already.

[LMax]

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7171038 The search for accused child rapist Chester Arthur Stiles is not slowing down.

[SuziQ]

Grasping at straws... Did Chet live anywhere near this location? http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7171296

:eek:

[SeriouslySearching]

Personally, I think a lawyer caught up with Tina and advised her how stupid it was for her to be going on tv to do these interviews. This is the reason she is off the radar for now. She isn't with CAS, imo...or LE would HAVE CAS in custody! Remember...they are watching every move Tina makes right now and have since the news broke about her. LE is playing games in the media to keep her thinking she is one step ahead of them.

[Linda7NJ]

I think Tina isn't the brightest bulb in the box, I think she was in denial for a long time, ignored red flags and basically was like so many other stupid women...putting her dysfunctional need for a man ahead of all else.

I think the tape, while disturbing to her, woke her up BUT the cloud of stupidity remains and if he contacts her, I think she would STILL help him. I hope LE is keeping a close eye on her and monitoring her phones.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't believe the denial and abuse theory anymore. I don't believe she was "manipulated" by CAS. I honestly think she might be the kingpin, so to speak.

If you look at all her so-called friends in the sex industry in Las Vegas and the statements she has been making in the interviews...she seems to be wellversed in the sex trade biz.

[angarella]

I don't believe the denial and abuse theory anymore. I don't believe she was "manipulated" by CAS. I honestly think she might be the kingpin, so to speak.

If you look at all her so-called friends in the sex industry in Las Vegas and the statements she has been making in the interviews...she seems to be wellversed in the sex trade biz.

Good call SS. I agree.

[Linda7NJ]

Good call SS. I agree.


There are thousands of people in the legal sex industry, thousands more into S&M ... I personally have a a friend or two in the business. While IMO they have some "issues" , they are far from masterminds of child rape.

I think imaginations are running wild.

It wouldn't shock me to learn she was the camera operator, nothing shocks me anymore. But I highly doubt it

[Tom'sGirl]

So Cal Members,

Are there posters and Tv spots about CAS?

No posters that I'm aware of, but may be some up near Stateline......dunno. It's such an outdated photo, doubt anyone will recognize him from a billboard.

As for TV, it's mentioned, but coverage has cooled down from a few days ago.

[Indiana at Heart]

It;s time for LE to start talking again and get the media post his pictures again.

[Tom'sGirl]

By the way, here's a newsflash: according an article that was printed in the Navy Times today, Chester Stiles was NOT, I repeat, NOT a former Navy SEAL (as he told his former girlfriend Tina Allen). Big Shocker there. The Times article says that Stiles was discharged from the Navy after spending a year (1988-1989) as an Engineman Fireman recruit. Having served almost 6 years in the Navy myself, I detest people that make false claims about their service record. Claiming to have been a SEAL is a common lie for wanna-be's with delusions of grandeur about their own abilities. Oh, and how do you only serve one year in the Navy? I can think of only 3 ways: medical discharge, administrative discharge, or the Big Chicken Dinner (bad conduct discharge) - but none of those quite have the same ring as "Navy SEAL", do they Chet?
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7121402&nav=menu107_1

well it's out now at least we can maybe stop hearing this lie



The info. was in the paper out here yesterday, I posted the article in the last thread.http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1715288&postcount=93

"and was discharged as an E-1 – the lowest pay grade in the military – in 1989. McLellan couldn't release the nature of Stiles' discharge, but it's likely that it was under less-than-honorable conditions.In other words, not only was this guy not a Navy SEAL; he's not even a bona fide veteran. "We wish more news organizations would have checked on this," McLellan told me when I called. Unfortunately, once this erroneous information gets out there in the news and on the Internet, it's almost impossible to correct it

[dottierainbow]

Lol! I'm a prude a proud of it! :woohoo:
Thanks a bunch, I had no clue. I am definately not a nun or saint or prude, but I have heard that word and didn't know what it meant and didn't really wanna do a search for it.....hehehehehe

[SeriouslySearching]

This woman has stated she was doing "introductions" of Stiles to single mothers who needed a father figure for their young children.

This wasn't my imagination...but until I can find where she actually DID say it so I can show you...it might as well have been. LOL

[Al_B]

The info. was in the paper out here yesterday, I posted the article in the last thread.
wow sorry I missed it. :banghead: I can be a goof sometimes. Sorry again

[Tom'sGirl]

wow sorry I missed it. :banghead: I can be a goof sometimes. Sorry again

Hey, LOL, don't be sorry, not everyone reads back, glad you mentioned it again, thank you !

[Indiana at Heart]

This woman has stated she was doing "introductions" of Stiles to single mothers who needed a father figure for their young children.

This wasn't my imagination.


OMG this lady needs to shut up she making her self look worse and LE is watching her every move if he's not then shame on him. I think she knows where he is!!!

[Tom'sGirl]

It;s time for LE to start talking again and get the media post his pictures again.

The media is posting his old photo, but as for talking, Clark County won't having press interviews everyday on this case.

[DeltaDawn]

TINA WILL STAY WHERE SHE IS FOR THE TIME BEING TO COVER FOR HIM.

But I still beleive he is no where near Vegas. He had a huge head start and he has friends in some very low places, that will put him up, because they have too much to lose if he is caught and starts talking and naming names.

He's either in Florida or SO CAL...but my best guess is SO CAL...he and Tina both just seem to have too many connections there.

Tom sGirl Thank for the So Cal update...stay safe my friend.

[DeltaDawn]

This woman has stated she was doing "introductions" of Stiles to single mothers who needed a father figure for their young children.

This wasn't my imagination.

SS,
Sorry I missed something ..what woman was introducing Stiles to other women who needed a father figure for their children?

[Indiana at Heart]

SS,
Sorry I missed something ..what woman was introducing Stiles to other women who needed a father figure for their children?



I think Tina, not sure!

[Dryad]

This makes me sick...I don't mean to start anything with the Allen family but Tina currently has a 16-year-old girl and a 20-year-old girl.
That means that her youngest daughter was 6 years old and she also had a 10-year-old daughter living with her at the time she met CAS and he began "dating the whole family." Not to say he did anything with them (who knows?), but kids have friends coming over all the time for sleepovers, etc...

Where is the 16-year-old right now? And another thing...when she was "vanishing" and taking off in 2004 (Todd said "again" so I assume she had done this in the past) who was taking care of her young children still at home? What kind of mother does that!!! :furious:

[concernedperson]

This is a nasty case. No two ways about it but this creep needs to be found ASAP.

[Indy Gal]

I think most, if not all, here agree that Tina is a POS as well as CTM! I hope she has all underage, if any, children removed from her house. Can someone post a link to where they say they think two are in the room when the video was made? I am up to my chin in theads. I hate 12 hour work days...LOL

[Indiana at Heart]

I think most, if not all, here agree that Tina is a POS as well as CTM! I hope she has all underage, if any, children removed from her house. Can someone post a link to where they say they think two are in the room when the video was made? I am up to my chin in theads. I hate 12 hour work days...LOL



Breath Indy Breath. LOL

[concernedperson]

The info. was in the paper out here yesterday, I posted the article in the last thread.http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1715288&postcount=93

"and was discharged as an E-1 – the lowest pay grade in the military – in 1989. McLellan couldn't release the nature of Stiles' discharge, but it's likely that it was under less-than-honorable conditions.In other words, not only was this guy not a Navy SEAL; he's not even a bona fide veteran. "We wish more news organizations would have checked on this," McLellan told me when I called. Unfortunately, once this erroneous information gets out there in the news and on the Internet, it's almost impossible to correct itThanks for the info. This goes a long way in explaining his persona.

[SewingDeb]

This woman has stated she was doing "introductions" of Stiles to single mothers who needed a father figure for their young children.

This wasn't my imagination.

Where did you hear that? TIA. I must have missed something.

[richandfamous]

This woman has stated she was doing "introductions" of Stiles to single mothers who needed a father figure for their young children.

This wasn't my imagination.

oh my gawd. Sounds like she wasn't passively envolved with him at all.

[Indy Gal]

Breath Indy Breath. LOL
:laugh: :laugh:

[Shari_Gal]

Did anyone notice that talking Tina had logged into her Myspace today? There are pics on there, were they there before or are those recent?:confused:

Link to Tina's Myspace profile:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=42768470

[DeltaDawn]

I think Tina's 16 year old daughter would be Stephani.. today 26 years old?
However in the AMW interview TINA talks about in 2001 CAS pushing a gun in her 16 year old daughter's and her daughter's boyfriend's face. She said they filed charges...so why in theWORLD would you even consider seeing that man again, much less having him come over while you are babysitting during 2002-2003? Yep Tina you picked Dad Of the Year for your kids.

Yes Tina is a peice of work alright..a hedinistic, self centered b*tch at the very least.

ABOUT HIM LIVING IN VEGAS SHELTERS FOR A YEAR WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY HOMELESS...NO WAY...THOSE PEOPLE IN THE SHELTERS HAVE THEIR OWN NETWORK..THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHERE HE WAS RIGHT AWAY IF HE WAS HIDING ANY WHERE NEAR THEM NOW.

[Indy Gal]

Did anyone notice that talking Tina had logged into her Myspace today? There are pics on there, were they there before or are those recent?:confused:

Link to Tina's Myspace profile:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=42768470
They are NOT new. Also could someone else, LE, be the one logging in. I only say this as that last she had logged on was a couple months ago. Doesnt seem to me she used it a lot. Although if it is her she could be sending info to others.

[Dryad]

[quote=DeltaDawn;1717955]I think Tina's 16 year old daughter would be Stephani.. today 26 years old?

No, she has a 16-year-old girl in high school right now. And she also has a 20-year-old daughter who has a newborn baby...I found their MySpace pages. Stephanie is 24 years old. She said she had 5 children and I think that Stephanie might be the oldest, not sure. There was the other son that CAS threw into the fireplace...so there are 3 girls and 2 boys. I understand why the others are not talking...who would? 24, 23, 22, 20, 16...can you imagine?

[DeltaDawn]

They are NOT new. Also could someone else, LE, be the one logging in. I only say this as that last she had logged on was a couple months ago. Doesnt seem to me she used it a lot. Although if it is her she could be sending info to others.

Indy,
She shows logins for almost eveyday since she was outed..could be her or could be LE.

How are those 12 hour shifts doing?

DD

[DeltaDawn]

I thought there was a brother older then Stephani and Todd and an younger brother and a yunger sister. But I could be wrong. I was looking at the civil legal cases and thought that 1 son orginally went by his Dad's last name and then she petitioned to have his last name changed to Allen and then went after his Dad for child support. To the Tune of $10,000 +. Maybe I was looking at a different Tina Allen in Vegas.

[Tom'sGirl]

No, she has a 16-year-old girl in high school right now. And she also has a 20-year-old daughter who has a newborn baby...I found their MySpace pages. Stephanie is 24 years old. She said she had 5 children and I think that Stephanie might be the oldest, not sure. There was the other son that CAS threw into the fireplace...so there are 3 girls and 2 boys. I understand why the others are not talking...who would? 24, 23, 22, 20, 16...can you imagine?


Her youngest son is now 18

[DeltaDawn]

As far as how Tina supported herself I would say, worker's comp and child support from these different Dad's. Just a sumation of what I have read.

[Shari_Gal]

They are NOT new. Also could someone else, LE, be the one logging in. I only say this as that last she had logged on was a couple months ago. Doesnt seem to me she used it a lot. Although if it is her she could be sending info to others.
The recent login date 10/04/07 should usually, be the most recent date that she logged in.

[capps]

All I know is,when Larry King was asking how incomprehensible this situation was,and Tina replied:"It's so far out of my realm that it may as well be Pluto.You know,the nearest star,a billion light years away. It is every bit as real to me as trying to reach one of those."

That's all I had to hear for me to know this woman is not all there. I think she was trying to sound intelligent,but she sounds a bit "off".It also sounds rehearsed.

[Tom'sGirl]

The recent login date 10/04/07 should usually, be the most recent date that she logged in.
It was probably one of her kids that logged in to read the posts, if any.

[Shari_Gal]

It was probably one of her kids that logged in to read the posts, if any.
:twocents:One of them could've, if they know her email & password.

[Tom'sGirl]

:twocents:One of them could've, if they know her email & password.

They could sign into MySpace from any location, they know her acct. name and the password they probably know....just guessing here!

[STEADFAST]

They could sign into MySpace from any location, they know her acct. name and the password they probably know....just guessing here!

I must be missing something. Why isn't it likely to be Tina herself?

[Indy Gal]

Indy,
She shows logins for almost eveyday since she was outed..could be her or could be LE.

How are those 12 hour shifts doing?

DD
LONG!!!! Just think of how much log in time I do here on top of the day...LOL

I forgot about that, then it probably is her. Too bsd WE cant track her...LOL Hopefully LE is

[Al_B]

for myspace all you need is the e-mail they signed up with and you can get it that way I believe(will double check with my girls as they hack each others accounts)

I once heard somewhere that you can tell if a person is lying or telling the truth by which direction they look if you looked one way it was to recall and if you looked the other it was a lie maybe someone who knows about it in LE or whatever should watch Tina's interviews and call her on it.
I will see if I can't find some more info on it but I am certain I remember hearing about it(not sure if it was on a crime show or not but it's a tell)

[teedie2]

This woman has stated she was doing "introductions" of Stiles to single mothers who needed a father figure for their young children.

This wasn't my imagination.


Tina is looney.

[DeltaDawn]

Oh she is a liar and thinks she is a great actress too. She was even more demonstrative in this last AMW interview then she was before. I think she is getting to like all this me time on TV. Since no one has played hardball with Tina in her interviews, she is on a roll. She thinks that her performance is getting better so she is going to get every interview she can. Not just her 15 minutes of fame, her own vindication, but her lover boys too. For goodness sake, according to Tina he was abused when he was a child so we need to try and understand that he has no sexual inhibations about what our society considers taboos.
Give me a break...Tina you are a sorry peice of work that needs to be put in jail just like you're finance, err boyfriend, err acquaintance, CAS.

[SeriouslySearching]

Where did you hear that? TIA. I must have missed something.It was in one of her many interviews. I will have to go back and find out which one now. I am still looking...but I swear I heard her say it!

[Al_B]

http://www.dana.edu/lschreib/Students/nonverba.htm
I don't know how accurate it is but I believe they use it as a tool this I think is someone's paper

and here is another
http://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug04/detecting.html

[teedie2]

If Tina has an "engagement" ring, she probably bought it herself.

[SieSie]

Thank you for all your help. If I am here I will PM you with the wonderful news. I have a few errands to run, so maybe others can offer as well and hopefully between all of us you will get the good news. :)
It's almost 11:00 at night here and I'm just catching up with this thread (took the day & evening off the computer for a change, what a nice break). I was hoping to have had a PM that this scum was busted, but alas, he's still out there somewhere. :razz: Thanks anyway, Beffie!


You will know if he is caught, SieSie...because the ground will be shaking with everyone collectively clapping and jumping for joy!
Hiya SS! I can't even catch any info on Fox (Greta right now) or CNN earlier. I'm afraid that he'll be caught when I'm offline and I won't be able to get back onto WS because everyone will be on here talking about it, and then I'll never get caught up! LOL.

I don't have anything new to add, other than my prayers that they catch him soon. Off to bed. G'night gang. Stay safe.

[Shamrock]

It was probably one of her kids that logged in to read the posts, if any.

That's what I said about 15,000 posts ago. But, no one listens to me. <insert crying smiley here> P.S. Why don't we have a crying smiley?????

[CaliKid]

This is falling off the radar, I think. Any sightings?

[philamena]

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7171038&nav=menu107_2

Whole article can be found at link.

How did the family not know about the abuse?

COLOR=#000000]The search for accused child rapist Chester Arthur Stiles is not slowing down. From billboards around the Valley to MySpace postings, the word is getting out about the man accused of the brutal sexual assault of a three-year-old girl.
Police are also taking to the streets, posting Stiles' picture in homeless camps and shelters since his ex-girlfriend says he use to live on the streets. If you spot Stiles, police say call 311 or Crime Stoppers at 385-5555.
There have been a lot of questions regarding the family of the little girl Chester Stiles is accused of molesting. Questions like, how did the mother not know the abuse was going on? Was there not some sort of sign the abuse was taking place?
News 3's Jesse Corona (jcorona@kvbc.com) talked to a child psychologist and says the answers to those questions might not be what you expect
[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[tnajk@cox.net]

OMG Please someone tell me these are not the same person:
http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/05/introduction.html

and

z-man
("M"s mothers boyfriend)

Anyone get a bad feeling about this besides me?

[MelInTN]

:eek: I sure hope it's not the same person.

[tnajk@cox.net]

So don't look at the photos. I'm not posting this for the photos. I'm posting the myspace site to see if this is the same guy. If so, we have a lot to worry about!!

[dhchick04]

OMG is right. That is disturbing... good catch

[dhchick04]

THER ARE PHOTOS OF THE BABY ON THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why post this over and over, let this be!

Maybe tnajk(sorry if that is incorrect) can edit and just post that his name on myspace is Zman??

[tnajk@cox.net]

I could, but that would change what? It wouldn't change the fact that there are pictures in his myspace albums. Then I'll get a million PM's asking for the link which I dont' have time for. I don't know how to do this differently except to say don't look through his pictures? This could be a very important tidbit of information here.

[tnajk@cox.net]

I care more about her present safety and her future.

[tnajk@cox.net]

There it's edited. Are you happy? I sure hope those 2 people are not 1 of the same. That poor child. Geesh.

[tnajk@cox.net]

There is no photo to post Indy! There is no photo on the blog in question. How would that let people compare?

[SeriouslySearching]

I would send that to LE, Tnajk, if you have concerns over it. (I am not seeing anything that I feel is related between the two, imo.)

Thanks for not posting anything leading to photos of Patience tho.

[Indy Gal]

I for one have known of that myspace for a couple days, most others as well, I didnt post it because it had her photo. I am sorry if I am the only one that thinks that is wrong so, but IMO it is. I will delete my posts to you as you delted the site.


ETA No woe is me, but I am walking away from this. I have become too attached to this and dont feel it is good for me or the thread.

[dhchick04]

I for one have known of that myspace for a couple days, most others as well, I didnt post it because it had her photo. I am sorry if I am the only one that thinks that is wrong so, but IMO it is. I will delete my posts to you as you delted the site.


ETA No woe is me, but I am walking away from this. I have become too attached to this and dont feel it is good for me or the thread.

Not trying to get involved. I hope they are not holding it against you or anything. I'm sure the site as not posted with the intent to exploit her or anything of the sort. I think many of us have to take a step back and breathe because of this case. It's so easy to be passionate about. So, I think everyone should take that into consideration. :) Let's all just concentrate on catching the scum bucket.

[SeriouslySearching]

What are we doing in order to catch this POS by the way? People in SoCal need to be out putting up posters and handing them out to bus stations, shelters, etc. People in or near Las Vegas need to be doing the same! Where is our WS army?! We normally ta