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Jeana (DP)
10-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Continue here please.

KansasCutie
10-09-2007, 03:17 PM
Ok i seriously woke up this morning and thought he was found because i couldnt get on here for 20 minutes so i was so excited thinking he had been found and thats why the site was so busy....i cant believe hes not!!

angarella
10-09-2007, 03:22 PM
I really am trying desperately to remain hopeful and positive that this POS will be caught and justice served.

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 03:37 PM
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[]Now if the Allen's and friends would have contacted the LE since that time about their contact with him directly, or indirectly, it would have made a huge difference. They knew of the Criminal Complaint filed against him, and other acts like an assault against Stephani, and yet they continued to have contact with him.[/SIZE]

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 03:38 PM
Continue here please.
Thank you Jeana............

Taximom
10-09-2007, 04:25 PM
I think most cities have a lot of RSO's and alleged SO's slipping through the cracks. I know my city does not have the manpower to do all it needs to keep up with the ones that are registered, let alone the ones that are being sought for cases where they've run off or don't appear in court.

Sadly it usually takes something like this to light a fire back in that area of the system....

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 04:33 PM
I think most cities have a lot of RSO's and alleged SO's slipping through the cracks. I know my city does not have the manpower to do all it needs to keep up with the ones that are registered, let alone the ones that are being sought for cases where they've run off or don't appear in court.

Sadly it usually takes something like this to light a fire back in that area of the system....

I agree Taximom, RSO's here are not tracked due to same problem of man power. I by chance recognized one in my area by a 'fluke' and went to the LE with the info. He had been in the area the entire time, living with his mother in a 55+ apt. complex, but again, so many cases to follow.

Like you said, "it usually takes something like this to light a fire back in that area of the system" is exactly right.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 04:38 PM
I would like to light a fire underneath Clark County to release the information they need to release to help find Stiles!!

angarella
10-09-2007, 04:59 PM
I would like to light a fire underneath Clark County to release the information they need to release to help find Stiles!!


I'd be glad to lend you a match.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 05:08 PM
I'd be glad to lend you a match.I have one of those really long lighters!! LOL But thanks!!!

Dryad
10-09-2007, 05:22 PM
Does anyone find it strange that Tina, Todd, and ex-husband Tony all have October 4th as the last time they logged in to their MySpace account? :confused: Just a coincidence?

And Stephanie's currently on everyday as of October 9th...

dhchick04
10-09-2007, 05:27 PM
Does anyone know the website offhand where you can see if there are SO's near your home or in your community? I also heard there is one that will email you when one moves close. Thanks and as everyone I hope hs is caught TODAY!

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 05:34 PM
Does anyone know the website offhand where you can see if there are SO's near your home or in your community? I also heard there is one that will email you when one moves close. Thanks and as everyone I hope hs is caught TODAY!Most are listed on your local law enforcement website. : )

Dryad
10-09-2007, 05:41 PM
This one shows you a map of sex offenders in your area...

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

dhchick04
10-09-2007, 05:54 PM
Thank you both so much!

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 05:56 PM
Does anyone find it strange that Tina, Todd, and ex-husband Tony all have October 4th as the last time they logged in to their MySpace account? :confused: Just a coincidence?

And Stephanie's currently on everyday as of October 9th...

Uh huh, very strange............maybe started a new account????

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 06:09 PM
Uh huh, very strange............maybe started a new account????That would be my guess.

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 06:24 PM
That would be my guess.

And no activity at the Family MS since 9/25/2007, at yet they could set it to Private, hmmm

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 06:37 PM
Maybe they decided not to be all over myspace anymore and go to another site which is more private. I don't see people who are addicted to online as much as they seem to be...just stopping their online activities!

It would be like US when WS goes down and having withdrawal. LMAO

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 06:47 PM
Maybe they decided not to be all over myspace anymore and go to another site which is more private. I don't see people who are addicted to online as much as they seem to be...just stopping their online activities!

It would be like US when WS goes down and having withdrawal. LMAO

I know they are truely addicted to the Internet, and especially MySpace, the gals even all wear the tackie MySpace Tee's :D

CaliKid
10-09-2007, 07:05 PM
Does it seem as if Todd is protecting his mother?

DeltaDawn
10-09-2007, 08:31 PM
I don't think Todd is trying to protect his Mom.. I f so, he would be doing Mother/ Son interviews with Tina and helping her to edit what comes out of her mouth. I think he made it pretty clear that he is not his mother's biggest fan by things he has written in his journals and said on TV. He is trying to protect Stephanie, M and M'sMom I think ..that is why he went on TV to make statements to begin with. But I don't think he harbors any kind feelings toward Tina in this situation.
I sincerely hope Vegas LE does not drop the ball on this one..but it's pretty high profile now and I don't think they will. Obviously they didn't look to hard for him in the 2003 case, but I agree with Tom's Girl this was a manpower issue. The FBI is also involved, so I think the bases are covered. I think that CAS is no where near Vegas, I don't think the dog is with him any longer either. I do think he has friends in So Cal, Florida, Texas and Arizonia..they need to be watching the friends in those areas...I think FBI will probably know just who those friends are due to his drug dealing trade as well as other things that have surfaced. I think that it is only a matter of time until someone turns him in...he may owe people in low places money or have po'd someone enough to turn him over to LE.

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 08:43 PM
LOL, had to delete a post, didn't see this one.

I agree, Todd isn't protecting his mom, but he is trying to cover his butt and his story has changed from knowing nothing of violence, to knowing.

SewingDeb
10-09-2007, 09:07 PM
I had to be away from the computer for a few days and didn't hear much news. Has Tina done any interviews lately?

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 09:28 PM
I had to be away from the computer for a few days and didn't hear much news. Has Tina done any interviews lately?

No, no new interviews, just hope that means they are being questioned by the LE.

SewingDeb
10-09-2007, 09:52 PM
No, no new interviews, just hope that means they are being questioned by the LE.

I hope so. Thanks Tom's Girl.

DeltaDawn
10-09-2007, 10:05 PM
Oh I think LE has definitely questioned Todd, Stephani, and Tina. From news reports we know that M'SMom spent the Monday after all this surfaced talking to LE. She didn't know CAS personally, but she sure knew the rest of the clan. Which was probably Tina's whole purpose to going on Nat'l TV.. to cover her butt and seem like she was cooperating..knowing that LE was going to get some very important facts of their own about the clan from M'sMom.
So Tina knew M'sMom really didn't know CAS so she could go on TV and say whatever came into her head..which she pretty much did...some of her comments are not only bizarre but meant to go off topic and cover her own butt..remember the Talking Tina Show.

DeltaDawn
10-09-2007, 10:15 PM
Tony was also involved in some illegal behavior which tells me Tina likes bad boys and she never really knew where to draw the line between acceptable and illegal behavior..hence her kids having a hard time on their own doing the same things. Meaning drugs, etc..not anything to do with the porn and sex with small children deal that CAS was into. I am still praying this is the ultimate wake up call for Tina's children that they need to rethink their priorities as far as partying and who they leave their children with. The next door 13 year old would have been more responsible then Tina.

dee10134
10-09-2007, 11:23 PM
Tony was also involved in some illegal behavior which tells me Tina likes bad boys and she never really knew where to draw the line between acceptable and illegal behavior..hence her kids having a hard time on their own doing the same things. Meaning drugs, etc..not anything to do with the porn and sex with small children deal that CAS was into. I am still praying this is the ultimate wake up call for Tina's children that they need to rethink their priorities as far as partying and who they leave their children with. The next door 13 year old would have been more responsible then Tina.

Boy, maybe it's just my interpretation of what you just said but you sure do sound "holier than thou." Pretty much every 20-something parties. I don't know many that don't. I think arguing over M's mom's "priorities" is pretty much moot considering the fact that this woman purportedly was working 2 jobs in an effort to get ahead. M's mom believed she was leaving her child with someone she could TRUST, since M's mom and Stephani were BEST FRIENDS. I would most definitely trust my best friend's mom too.

Like the old adage goes, "HINDSIGHT IS 20/20!" :truce:

dee10134
10-09-2007, 11:26 PM
Tony was also involved in some illegal behavior which tells me Tina likes bad boys and she never really knew where to draw the line between acceptable and illegal behavior..hence her kids having a hard time on their own doing the same things. Meaning drugs, etc..not anything to do with the porn and sex with small children deal that CAS was into. I am still praying this is the ultimate wake up call for Tina's children that they need to rethink their priorities as far as partying and who they leave their children with. The next door 13 year old would have been more responsible then Tina.

Where's the source on Tony's illicit behavior? I didn't read anything about that.

Also, maybe Tina DID like "bad boys" but when her and Tony divorced, she met Chester and believe all of the hype that he was this great "family man." Maybe he played onto her wants and presented himself to her as a "good guy" in an effort to get into her life. I don't know if Tina wanted yet another "bad boy" situation, but you never know...

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 11:41 PM
Boy, maybe it's just my interpretation of what you just said but you sure do sound "holier than thou." Pretty much every 20-something parties. I don't know many that don't. I think arguing over M's mom's "priorities" is pretty much moot considering the fact that this woman purportedly was working 2 jobs in an effort to get ahead. M's mom believed she was leaving her child with someone she could TRUST, since M's mom and Stephani were BEST FRIENDS. I would most definitely trust my best friend's mom too.

Like the old adage goes, "HINDSIGHT IS 20/20!"


I no more took DeltaDawn's words to be as you termed "holier than thou", but rather factual and on the money.

dkitty
10-09-2007, 11:43 PM
Gotta go to bed..See you good people tomorrow..Maybe we will hear some good news tomorrow!
Good night! :)

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 11:43 PM
Where's the source on Tony's illicit behavior? I didn't read anything about that.

Many of us have learned a lot about the 'cast of characters' surrounding this case that you obviously are unaware of...........we are after all, Sleuthers, and not new to case investigation.

Tom'sGirl
10-09-2007, 11:44 PM
Gotta go to bed..See you good people tomorrow..Maybe we will hear some good news tomorrow!
Good night! :)
Nite dkitty!

Reannan
10-10-2007, 12:02 AM
Do you guys think we should email the pictures that have been created by the many talented people here at WS's to LE and perhaps offer them.....or ask them what the status of the case is? I don't mind doing that, if you guys think it would help get the case moving again.....or at least let LE know that a LOT of people have NOT forgotten this case. I had truly hoped for more information by now, but it seems to be slowing down. :mad: I worry that the case has bogged down because it moved from one jurisdiction to another and the momentum has gotten lost in the shuffle. I also worry that because someone wasn't killed, and because "M" looks happy on the outside now, LE has bumped it to the back burner. This is very dangerous. CAS is a dangerous predator, and he cannot be provided the illusion that he is invisible and immune from the laws that govern a civilized society. He will act again, and it will escalate in depravity and violence. He needs to be brought to justice ASAP.

Reannan
10-10-2007, 12:10 AM
"...Also, maybe Tina DID like "bad boys" but when her and Tony divorced, she met Chester and believe all of the hype that he was this great "family man." Maybe he played onto her wants and presented himself to her as a "good guy" in an effort to get into her life. I don't know if Tina wanted yet another "bad boy" situation, but you never know...

I don't really think Tina was looking for a great "family man" because she wasn't into being a really great "family woman". I think she knew exactly what was going down at the time, and she knows exactly what is going down now.....she just thinks she can beat the system.

Tom'sGirl
10-10-2007, 12:10 AM
Do you guys think we should email the pictures that have been created by the many talented people here at WS's to LE and perhaps offer them.....or ask them what the status of the case is? I don't mind doing that, if you guys think it would help get the case moving again.....or at least let LE know that a LOT of people have NOT forgotten this case. I had truly hoped for more information by now, but it seems to be slowing down. :mad: I worry that the case has bogged down because it moved from one jurisdiction to another and the momentum has gotten lost in the shuffle. I also worry that because someone wasn't killed, and because "M" looks happy on the outside now, LE has bumped it to the back burner. This is very dangerous. CAS is a dangerous predator, and he cannot be provided the illusion that he is invisible and immune from the laws that govern a civilized society. He will act again, and it will escalate in depravity and violence. He needs to be brought to justice ASAP.

I'm sure they have professionals working on this as they mentioned yesterday in the LV press:Investigators said the pictures being used to identify Stiles -- which are being broadcast on television and on billboards across the Valley and U.S. -- could be very different from what he looks like now. Officials from America's Most Wanted are working on generating new information as the investigation continues.

"From what we've learned since the beginning of September, he's gained weight, shaved his mustache," Michelle Sigona, with AMW, said," and changed other physical characteristics about him."

Reannan
10-10-2007, 12:19 AM
Thanks for that information Tom's Girl. :blowkiss: I have been just swamped with work and family issues, but have done "hit and run" checks on this site for updates as frequently as possible. Like all of you, I am also following a couple of other cases, and there are only so many hours in the day! :boohoo: Anyway, I think if we really seem to come to the conclusion that this case is being ignored or abandoned by LE, we really do have some power to move it forward. We are in the middle of a revolution with information technology, and WS's and Huff's site are at the forefront of the foot soldiers in my opinion. The world has access to information that didn't exist before. While there is arguably an increased level of evil in the world, I believe it is being counter balanced by "the good guys", and they are using new technology as weapons in the war. I consider everyone here a "foot soldier" in the battle. As in any revolution, however, there are many situations that are not outlined in the training manual. We will watch, and wait, and pray, that CAS is brought to justice. We will not, however, forget or go away.

Tom'sGirl
10-10-2007, 12:19 AM
Stiles May Have Changed His Look, Nationwide Search Continues


The nationwide search for suspected child molester Chester Stiles continues.

Police now say Stiles may have a brand new look.

They think he now has long hair and it could be dyed gray.

Stiles is wanted for sexually abusing a young Las Vegas girl on videotape.
If you know anything that could help police, call Crime Stoppers at 385-5555.

Keep it tuned to Channel 13 Action News for the latest on this search.
http://www.ktnv.com/global/story.asp?s=7189977

Hopefully this is accurate and not based solely on what Tina has told the LE, but rather what Todd also said the change was when he saw him recently.

itsreenw
10-10-2007, 12:50 AM
Boy, maybe it's just my interpretation of what you just said but you sure do sound "holier than thou." Pretty much every 20-something parties. I don't know many that don't. I think arguing over M's mom's "priorities" is pretty much moot considering the fact that this woman purportedly was working 2 jobs in an effort to get ahead. M's mom believed she was leaving her child with someone she could TRUST, since M's mom and Stephani were BEST FRIENDS. I would most definitely trust my best friend's mom too.

Like the old adage goes, "HINDSIGHT IS 20/20!" :truce:

I hope we can agree to disagree. I believe no matter what age you are, when you become a parent your priorities MUST change. You have to think about how your actions are going to affect your child. With all the "Caught on Tape" reality shows about babysitters beating kids, etc... Ignorance isnt an excuse these days. You really have to check the background of who is caring for your children. Being young and hardworking is not an excuse. Tina's own kid didnt speak highly of her in the online journal entries I read. To me that would be a red flag. Since I got ripped for speaking negatively about M's mom on here, I will only add that we don't know enough about her to condemn her or feel sorry for her yet.

Since Stefani and M's mom were best friends seems to me that Stefani or even Todd, would have mentioned to M's mom that they disliked Tina's boyfriend and given her the reasons why.

Best friends talk about that stuff. I don't know if it was trust or convenience that prompted M's mom to leave little M in Tina's care but Tina's kids both knew of the previous charges against CAS. What kind of friends are they if they didnt warn M's mom?

Does anyone know...

Is it child endangerment to fall asleep while caring for a toddler? Tina said she was taking a nap when the assault(s) happened. As we know, LE thinks M was assaulted numerous times prior to the tape because of her lack of emotion. How many times did Tina take a nap and leave M unattended?? She was responsible for M whether another adult was in the house or not. She should be charged with multiple counts of child endangerment IMO.

SeriouslySearching
10-10-2007, 01:42 AM
Well, for starters...Tina said she was not with CAS during the time of the assault because she had "back problems and her dad died" as I recall. She never said she was down for a nap when this took place.

I understand NOW how important it is to check out who watches your children, but back in my day...we didn't have internet access to check on sex offenders n such. We had to rely on family and friends...or we had to go by what our local Department of Human Services concluded were OK places to put our children. So I am NOT going to lay blame for this on Patience' mom. She WAS doing the best she knew how, imo.

You say ignorance is no excuse...but what if her mom wasn't as 'savy' on a computer as we think she should be in this day and age? Sure..she knew Myspace and other things...but most young people don't frequent sites for sex offenders and such. They are learning, but they don't think like we do.

Of course, if Stephani withheld the information...if she even knew (noone has clarified that)...about CAS and his wretched past...from the mother it would be considered almost criminal. The fact that TINA knew about his past and still brought him around those children IS criminal.

I do not hold Patience' mom responsible for what happened and I will not until they can prove to me she had any idea of his background or she was neglect in any way to this child. She trusted people she should not have who had worked their way into her life for such a horrid purpose. TINA subjected her whole family and friends to CAS for ten years...and learned what he was...and STILL brought him around!

Do not get me started on people enjoying themselves partying because you are going to lose! I enjoy seeing families and friends spending time together and bonding...whatever their choice is. I don't see having a few beers or drinks is a bad thing when you are surrounding yourself with people you love. This is or should I say...should be...a safe time for your families. You know them and you do not expect the devil to be present at the gathering.

itsreenw
10-10-2007, 06:17 AM
Well, for starters...Tina said she was not with CAS during the time of the assault because she had "back problems and her dad died" as I recall. She never said she was down for a nap when this took place.

I understand NOW how important it is to check out who watches your children, but back in my day...we didn't have internet access to check on sex offenders n such. We had to rely on family and friends...or we had to go by what our local Department of Human Services concluded were OK places to put our children. So I am NOT going to lay blame for this on Patience' mom. She WAS doing the best she knew how, imo.

You say ignorance is no excuse...but what if her mom wasn't as 'savy' on a computer as we think she should be in this day and age? Sure..she knew Myspace and other things...but most young people don't frequent sites for sex offenders and such. They are learning, but they don't think like we do.

Of course, if Stephani withheld the information...if she even knew (noone has clarified that)...about CAS and his wretched past...from the mother it would be considered almost criminal. The fact that TINA knew about his past and still brought him around those children IS criminal.

I do not hold Patience' mom responsible for what happened and I will not until they can prove to me she had any idea of his background or she was neglect in any way to this child. She trusted people she should not have who had worked their way into her life for such a horrid purpose. TINA subjected her whole family and friends to CAS for ten years...and learned what he was...and STILL brought him around!

Do not get me started on people enjoying themselves partying because you are going to lose! I enjoy seeing families and friends spending time together and bonding...whatever their choice is. I don't see having a few beers or drinks is a bad thing when you are surrounding yourself with people you love. This is or should I say...should be...a safe time for your families. You know them and you do not expect the devil to be present at the gathering.

Whoa SS,
no need to get confrontational about partying. It's not a win or lose situation.

I'm not blaming anybody but CAS. I do feel other adults failed to protect this child.

In the 2004 case Tina said she was at the home but taking a nap when that assault occured. It was suggested the same scenario may have happened with M. If Tina was not with CAS when it happened as you said she stated (I didnt see that interview), that means someone else left her with Stiles. So who else would've given him access to that apt and left him alone to babysit M? M's mom is claiming not to know him at all. I dont believe that.

Here's another of Tina's quotes:
Tina Allen, Stiles' former girlfriend, said, "Somebody trusted him enough to leave him there with her. He cultivated being Mr. Trustworthy, you know you can trust me with kids."

Donohue says the victim's mother worked two jobs six days a week to make enough to live on. "She was trying to make ends meet on her own. She thought she was leaving her daughter in the care of a responsible adult," he explained.

Sounds to me that Tina is insinuating someone else asked Stiles to babysit. Now I dont believe a word Tina says but if Tina didn't leave her with CAS, who did?

And as far as your comment on being computer saavy, the whole point of the previous comments were about priorities. MySpace is very complicated to setup. Much easier to google "sex offenders (insert city)" than it is to set up a myspace page. It's where your priorities stand in what you choose to look up on a pc and actually, computers have nothing to do with checking on a babysitter. Like you said back in your day there was no internet. Ask questions like..."who is the jerk your mom is dating? What's his story?", etc...

About the partying thing...take it easy. I don't want to battle over whether or not partying is a good thing. It all depends on how you define partying. To me, a family gathering doesn't mean 'partying'. Family gatherings in my family dont include bongs and hookah pipes. I dont care how much people drink, smoke weed or whatever they choose to do. To each his own...until it comes to kids. Then the whole priority thing comes into play.

I come in peace. Let's all get along here.

Mygirlsadie
10-10-2007, 07:32 AM
I was sitting here watching some of Tina's interviews (again) and something struck me as really odd..why does she talk about her sex life so much? What does CAS being wanted by LE for child rape/molestation have to to with Talking Tina's sex life?...:confused:

Indiana at Heart
10-10-2007, 07:39 AM
It's time to find this POS and bring him in!!!!

SewingDeb
10-10-2007, 07:43 AM
Amen Indiana!

To MyGirlSadie, I'm not sure why Tina's sex life should ever come up in an interview but the thought did cross my mind that she was using the interviews as a way to get a message to the other girlfriends about her relationship with Chet.

Mygirlsadie
10-10-2007, 08:02 AM
Blechhhh if that is what she was doing then she is just as sick as I think she is. News flash to Tina..NOBODY CARES! And nobody wants him...:loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:




Amen Indiana!

To MyGirlSadie, I'm not sure why Tina's sex life should ever come up in an interview but the thought did cross my mind that she was using the interviews as a way to get a message to the other girlfriends about her relationship with Chet.

blaize
10-10-2007, 08:12 AM
I'm copying Wrinkles post from the Erin Stanley thread in the Crimes in the News forum to let posters know that Seriously Searching needs good vibes today so please keep her in your thoughts and prayers.

[Source (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1728165&postcount=289)]

TO ALL:

We have all watched this case together. Tonight I was in chat with SeriouslySearching getting to know her and vice versa, discussing the case. In the midst of our chat, she became very troubled with some physical symptoms. She left her desk and came back, I checked, "Are you okay?" She was not. I urged her to call 911 and asked her to stay with me until they arrived.

My last note was that 911 had arrived and they had her.

Please keep her in your prayers.

W

Taximom
10-10-2007, 08:36 AM
Thanks for this update, blaize.

My prayers go out to her and hope she's back here sleuthing soon.

Thanks to Wrinkles for staying with her and encouraging her to call 911. :blowkiss:

SewingDeb
10-10-2007, 08:38 AM
My prayers for Seriously Searching. I hope she has a quick recovery and is back here in no time.

dkitty
10-10-2007, 08:55 AM
Praying all is well with SS...

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 09:06 AM
I hope SS is feeling better soon:blowkiss:

Indiana at Heart
10-10-2007, 09:15 AM
Prayers for SS hope all is well!!!

Ok we need to find Chester!!!
Where is all is known hang outs??
Look at all people who knew him friends and family????
Look in all place he might feel safe (Tina is one of them)

Where does the rest of his family live!!

Maybe we can't find him cause he done did him self in:bang:

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 09:56 AM
I came across the below linked article this morning and PM'd Taximom regarding making a thread for this. Then rereading the article, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. A stretch maybe, but I thought I would post it here anyways. In the presser, it was stating the man is english speaking. Watch the presser, it reveals alot of info. This poor poor girl is so lucky.

The suspect is described as a white or Hispanic male between the ages of 30 and 40, 6-feet tall with a thin build, long black hair and a distinctive goatee. He was driving a large white older two-door or four-door sedan, possibly American made, police said.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/14297647/detail.html

ETA: I don't think the sketch looks like CAS. But two traumitized little girls gave the info.

DeltaDawn
10-10-2007, 10:06 AM
[quote=dee10134;1727721]Boy, maybe it's just my interpretation of what you just said but you sure do sound "holier than thou." Pretty much every 20-something parties. I don't know many that don't. I think arguing over M's mom's "priorities" is pretty much moot considering the fact that this woman purportedly was working 2 jobs in an effort to get ahead. M's mom believed she was leaving her child with someone she could TRUST, since M's mom and Stephani were BEST FRIENDS. I would most definitely trust my best friend's mom too.

Dee, That statement was not meant as holier than thou or anything close to slamming Tina's kids or their crowd..it was meant to say how would they know better having had her as a role model.
And yes, I do beleive after this they will probably never leave their kids with Tina.
As far as Tony goes I won't post a link but you can go to the court records division for the counties involved and view his past history.

MsPooh
10-10-2007, 10:10 AM
oh my goodness! Bless her little heart! I'm with ya on this one, the hair on the back of my neck stood up too! I don't think it's too far of a stretch San Jose is 7 hours from El Cajon (which I think I read somewhere here that he has ties to)..and 8 hours from Las Vegas..hmmm...plenty of time to get there...El Cajon is about 6 hours from Las Vegas..POS has got to be somewhere and him and his narcissistic (sp?) personality would do something such as this ..

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:13 AM
oh my goodness! Bless her little heart! I'm with ya on this one, the hair on the back of my neck stood up too! I don't think it's too far of a stretch San Jose is 7 hours from El Cajon (which I think I read somewhere here that he has ties to)..and 8 hours from Las Vegas..hmmm...plenty of time to get there...El Cajon is about 6 hours from Las Vegas..POS has got to be somewhere and him and his narcissistic (sp?) personality would do something such as this ..

The car description, the age of the suspect, the physical description, the type of crime...if it's not CAS, it must be his brother!

TGIRecovered
10-10-2007, 10:13 AM
SuziQ, what strikes me about the sketch of the perp is the way his hair is combed to hide his ears. Looks like he may even have some sideburns and a week or two of growth on the goatee.

CAS has such distinctive ears that stick out, and this dude's hairsytle looks contrived. It doesn't seem natural to have no ears showing at all.

Could be him.

Susan

lviola
10-10-2007, 10:15 AM
SuziQ, what strikes me about the sketch of the perp is the way his hair is combed to hide his ears. Looks like he may even have some sideburns and a week or two of growth on the goatee.

CAS has such distinctive ears that stick out, and this dude's hairsytle looks contrived. It doesn't seem natural to have no ears showing at all.

Could be him.

Susan

Wow, you never know. It could very well be CAS. Didn't Tina say CAS had a white car?

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:16 AM
SuziQ, what strikes me about the sketch of the perp is the way his hair is combed to hide his ears. Looks like he may even have some sideburns and a week or two of growth on the goatee.

CAS has such distinctive ears that stick out, and this dude's hairsytle looks contrived. It doesn't seem natural to have no ears showing at all.

Could be him.

Susan

The ears would be something he would have to hide. And everyone states he is heavier now. In the presser, they went into detail about how busy the street was and how bold this crime was. A last hoorah perhaps? Scary thought.

MsPooh
10-10-2007, 10:17 AM
Also the description was given by a very scared 9 year old who had watched all this happen to her sister....very brave girls :)

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:19 AM
It's only 6am pacific time. But I will call the number in the article and point them towards CAS, and let LE sort it out.

TGIRecovered
10-10-2007, 10:20 AM
Wow, you never know. It could very well be CAS. Didn't Tina say CAS had a white car?

Yes, I believe she did, for whatever that's worth.

I also believe that the age diff of the victims doesn't matter that much to CAS...he isn't picky about who he rapes, IMO. Whatever is convenient.

Susan

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:23 AM
http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_282011415.html

Great videos on this site.

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:34 AM
Ok, I called and explained to the person who answered how CAS may be connected to this crime. And she said, Really! Then said you know what? I'm going to put you directly through to the detectives voicemail. So I left a detailed message with a call back number.

SewingDeb
10-10-2007, 10:34 AM
Thanks for the link SuziQ. I'm so glad she knocked on the right door. Kudos to the man who helped her.

DeltaDawn
10-10-2007, 10:35 AM
I hope S.S. is doing much better this morning. Prayers to her and her family.

SewingDeb
10-10-2007, 10:36 AM
Good for you! It may not be him but who knows...these girls were scared so the sketch may not be that close to the guy's actual looks. The white car makes me think of CAS.

lviola
10-10-2007, 10:37 AM
Good for you! It may not be him but who knows...these girls were scared so the sketch may not be that close to the guy's actual looks. The white car makes me think of CAS.

Me too

DeltaDawn
10-10-2007, 10:41 AM
Ok, I called and explained to the person who answered how CAS may be connected to this crime. And she said, Really! Then said you know what? I'm going to put you directly through to the detectives voicemail. So I left a detailed message with a call back number.

SuzieQ,
I appreciate the fact that you took the time to call this in to the San Jose police. Hopefully they will get this man soon..that poor, dear little girl.

Beffie
10-10-2007, 10:44 AM
Ok, I called and explained to the person who answered how CAS may be connected to this crime. And she said, Really! Then said you know what? I'm going to put you directly through to the detectives voicemail. So I left a detailed message with a call back number.

just popping in to see if there was any arrests, but signed in to say Thank you. Wouldn't that be something if that was him. Let us know if you hear anything back.

MsPooh
10-10-2007, 10:47 AM
Ok, I called and explained to the person who answered how CAS may be connected to this crime. And she said, Really! Then said you know what? I'm going to put you directly through to the detectives voicemail. So I left a detailed message with a call back number.

You go girl! Great job! Just watched the video of the guy that helped her, he is awesome..but like he said "hopefully anyone would do this in this situation"...
BTW..is there a thread for this? I don't know if it is ok to disuss this new case on this thread, however it could possibly be related to our Patience case in a round-a bout way...mods?

SewingDeb
10-10-2007, 10:50 AM
We probably need a thread just for this new case since it may not be related.

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:50 AM
You go girl! Great job! Just watched the video of the guy that helped her, he is awesome..but like he said "hopefully anyone would do this in this situation"...
BTW..is there a thread for this? I don't know if it is ok to disuss this new case on this thread, however it could possibly be related to our Patience case in a round-a bout way...mods?

It should probably have it's own thread. That was my original intention until I realized the possible connection.

dee10134
10-10-2007, 10:54 AM
[quote=dee10134;1727721]Boy, maybe it's just my interpretation of what you just said but you sure do sound "holier than thou." Pretty much every 20-something parties. I don't know many that don't. I think arguing over M's mom's "priorities" is pretty much moot considering the fact that this woman purportedly was working 2 jobs in an effort to get ahead. M's mom believed she was leaving her child with someone she could TRUST, since M's mom and Stephani were BEST FRIENDS. I would most definitely trust my best friend's mom too.

Dee, That statement was not meant as holier than thou or anything close to slamming Tina's kids or their crowd..it was meant to say how would they know better having had her as a role model.
And yes, I do beleive after this they will probably never leave their kids with Tina.
As far as Tony goes I won't post a link but you can go to the court records division for the counties involved and view his past history.

Yes, I am aware that scum often perpetuates scum, BUT I'm giving these kids the benefit of the doubt here. Just because Tina isn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree doesn't mean that her children do things exactly her way. :truce:

By the way, I was raised in a very dysfunctional family lacking solid role models (besides my teachers in school) but I made it out okay, know right from wrong, and am a damn good wife and parent. By having parents like mine (and I'm sure Todd, Stephani, and their siblings can relate), you actually learn to be the OPPOSITE of your dysfunctional parents and know what NOT to do... That's all I'm going to say about that... :twocents:

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:56 AM
I just sent a PM to admin requesting a thread for the San Jose case.

dee10134
10-10-2007, 10:57 AM
Prayers for SS! I hope she's feeling better this morning!

dee10134
10-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Good for you! It may not be him but who knows...these girls were scared so the sketch may not be that close to the guy's actual looks. The white car makes me think of CAS.

And the fact that he is purportedly 6 feet tall, when CAS is 6'3 (6'2 in some reports).

SewingDeb
10-10-2007, 11:03 AM
New thread for the San Jose kidnapper is up.

DeltaDawn
10-10-2007, 11:11 AM
New thread for the San Jose kidnapper is up.

Thank you SewingDeb

DeltaDawn
10-10-2007, 11:25 AM
Dee,
If I remember you and I both posted about the hookah pipe pictures and you were aware they were not in a hookah bar, but someone's backyard. Then another poster mentioned that there were more pictures of the hookah on the myspaces with young children in those pics. Too me that says they are doing more then drinking at these parties. I don't want to go over this but I do think that 20 somethings are not kids and are adults who should be held responsible for their behavior. I am not bashing
them I am just stating facts. I am sure they are in shock that this happened on Tina's watch. The journal entries prove both drugs and alcohol were frequently used. So I still hope this is a wake up call for this crowd. Not holier than thou..just hoping they get their acts together for all of their children's sake.

dee10134
10-10-2007, 11:28 AM
Dee,
If I remember you and I both posted about the hookah pipe pictures and you were aware they were not in a hookah bar, but someone's backyard. Then another poster mentioned that there were more pictures of the hookah on the myspaces with young children in those pics. Too me that says they are doing more then drinking at these parties. I don't want to go over this but I do think that 20 somethings are not kids and are adults who should be held responsible for their behavior. I am not bashing
them I am just stating facts. I am sure they are in shock that this happened on Tina's watch. The journal entries prove both drugs and alcohol were frequently used. So I still hope this is a wake up call for this crowd. Not holier than thou..just hoping they get their acts together for all of their children's sake.

Agreed.

Indy Gal
10-10-2007, 11:37 AM
I was asked to do this so here ya go.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/2i0rzuu.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/14304349_240X180.jpg

Indy Gal
10-10-2007, 11:38 AM
I just sent a PM to admin requesting a thread for the San Jose case.
You can start it on your own. At the top of the crimes in the news just click new thread...

Indiana at Heart
10-10-2007, 11:42 AM
I was asked to do this so here ya go.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/2i0rzuu.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/14304349_240X180.jpg



Thanks Indy!! I tried on the new tread but I'm still to new

DeltaDawn
10-10-2007, 12:38 PM
The eyes and the nose are similiar, but the ears would stick out of the hair more I think. Can't compare chins due to beard. I hope that they show the little girls CAS picture to clarify if it is him.

lviola
10-10-2007, 12:48 PM
The eyes and the nose are similiar, but the ears would stick out of the hair more I think. Can't compare chins due to beard. I hope that they show the little girls CAS picture to clarify if it is him.

eyes and nose are very similar.

Beffie
10-10-2007, 12:50 PM
eyes and nose are very similar.

That is what I thought, too. The face shape, too. This and the white car really having me wondering if this could be CAS.

lviola
10-10-2007, 12:53 PM
That is what I thought, too. The face shape, too. This and the white car really having me wondering if this could be CAS.

Wouldn't put it past him. he's been in hiding for more then a week. He could have easily made it there hoping nobody would recognize him. I thought I also read that CAS has changed his appearance with long hair ...

Beffie
10-10-2007, 12:57 PM
Wouldn't put it past him. he's been in hiding for more then a week. He could have easily made it there hoping nobody would recognize him. I thought I also read that CAS has changed his appearance with long hair ...


Yes, Tina said he was growing his hair out and his bangs were pushed back (she used the example of GQ, I won't:sick: ). This is just such a coincidence.

believe09
10-10-2007, 01:01 PM
You guys are great!!! I just signed on here to post this very same story, and already find the pictures side by side-my 2 cents, the way the hair is described would cover his ears being taped back, which we all know is CAS's most outstanding feature.

lviola
10-10-2007, 01:03 PM
Yes, Tina said he was growing his hair out and his bangs were pushed back (she used the example of GQ, I won't:sick: ). This is just such a coincidence.

I hope they're showing his picture to the girls.

We know CAS is violent, likes to punch. Now another thing that's bothering me is the fact, and please don't anybody take this the wrong way, but ... he hasn't had sex either since being on the run. (at least that we know of) could very well be him. I hope LE calls and takes this seriously.

believe09
10-10-2007, 01:06 PM
I think what terrifies me is if this is him, then he is very, very angry-his next target is in much worse trouble. He will choose someone who is truly defenseless and make extra sure that they are unable to speak about it later I suspect.

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 01:11 PM
Whoever it is, is very brazen. Broad daylight, busy area, in front of the other sister. Scary stuff.

DeltaDawn
10-10-2007, 01:29 PM
This doesn't seem like CAS MO though. He seems to have known the other kids he molested.

Mysticchic
10-10-2007, 01:34 PM
Awe sweet SS I hope you feel better! Hugs

dkitty
10-10-2007, 01:36 PM
I've got a feeling this is not CAS...I wish it were, maybe he could be caught, but I don't think this was him..

Squishified
10-10-2007, 01:39 PM
I've got a feeling this is not CAS...I wish it were, maybe he could be caught, but I don't think this was him..
I have a feeling it's not CAS either. But I hope they catch this guy (and CAS).

dee10134
10-10-2007, 02:18 PM
I think what terrifies me is if this is him, then he is very, very angry-his next target is in much worse trouble. He will choose someone who is truly defenseless and make extra sure that they are unable to speak about it later I suspect.

I agree. Whomever this suspect is had the balls to HIT the girl after waving her to cross the street, DRAG her into his car, and repeatedly PUNCH her. The next step for this perp will be murder. Hopefully they catch him before he does this again.

I agree the sketch is similar to CAS, especially in the nose and eye areas.

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 05:44 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have not gotten a call back from LE. I did however get a call from my daughter asking me if I wanted to buy some Vietnamese dongs...:waitasec:

I was happy to hear it's money!

ETA: I will cross post this on the other thread.

philamena
10-10-2007, 08:04 PM
I don't think it's CAS. Stiles has high, protruding cheekbones and big ears.

richandfamous
10-10-2007, 09:50 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have not gotten a call back from LE. I did however get a call from my daughter asking me if I wanted to buy some Vietnamese dongs...:waitasec:

I was happy to hear it's money!

ETA: I will cross post this on the other thread.

LMAO...:D

TGIRecovered
10-10-2007, 10:21 PM
This doesn't seem like CAS MO though. He seems to have known the other kids he molested.


Just want to point out that he has known the ones that we know about.

It is very unlikely that there have not been at least several others that we do not know about. He does not seem to be new to his perversion IMO.

I just don't think he is that particular about who he rapes, as long as they are defensless and innocent. JMO

Susan

itsreenw
10-10-2007, 10:27 PM
Any word on SS, yet?? Sending prayers.

Does anyone recognize the name "Morler" from any type of tv show, anime characters, video games??? Don't know if the quote below came from an actual transcript of another source or if there is a message in this.

Was just reading Todd's journal and this was the oddest comment for one of his friend's to post, especially now:


Sunday, October 7th, 2007

http://userpic.livejournal.com/52583266/3145661 (http://www.livejournal.com/users/imnotfurry)
imnotfurry Subject:HeheTime:5:38 pm. Mood:http://stat.livejournal.com/img/mood/purplelemon/sassips/giggly.gif amused.Quote of the day:

Eldest - MUM! Russell stole my cherry!

Us- *giggling quietly while she turned red*

Morier - So, Russell steals her cherry and we're just sitting here watching and drinking tea
http://strykarian.livejournal.com/friends

I really hope this is NOT in any way a subliminal message about this case.

SuziQ
10-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Ack, that anime stuff is so out there, I can't understand it at all.

TGIRecovered
10-10-2007, 11:12 PM
EEWwwwwww!

itsreenw
10-10-2007, 11:14 PM
Just want to point out that he has known the ones that we know about.

It is very unlikely that there have not been at least several others that we do not know about. He does not seem to be new to his perversion IMO.

I just don't think he is that particular about who he rapes, as long as they are defensless and innocent. JMO

I agree. It was easy for him to manipulate his way into people's lives before and have access to kids in familiar settings but he is PE #1 now. Whatever little girl he can get his hands on is prey. We MUST keep our babies safe. My neighbor could've met the same fate today.

I live in an complex of 800+ apts. Today I was opening my windows in my bedroom and saw a little girl (maybe 2 or 3 yrs old), standing across the main road, by herself, clutching a Coke can. No adults in sight. About the same time I noticed her, a car came speeding past and almost hit her. The car screeched to a stop. The passenger, a female, got out the car and approached her. I was panicking for her. I didn't want to take my eyes off her but I wanted to get outside to help. My vision isnt good enough to see license plates that far. I just ran from the bedroom thru my apt and out the front door, pajamas, bare feet and all. Just that quick, the car was gone but the girl was still there. One of our maintenance men was kneeling down talking to the girl who was now crying.

He said 'Oh someone from the office is coming'. This is going to sound awful but I said "well that's good but I'll wait here because i dont want to leave you alone with her'. It just flew out of my mouth but I meant for his protection against accusations and her protection because we dont know who our maintenance men really are.

I tried to talk to her in both English and Spanish. She didnt respond but she stopped crying. I started banging on doors that were in the area we were but nobody answered. About 15 min. later the passenger in the car that almost hit her came from around the corner with 2 other kids who were able to tell us that they'd seen the little girl before come from the area behind my building.

I started back across to my side of the road which is more like a residential street and here comes her dad looking at her with a look on his face like "what are you doing across the street?" I started to give him a piece of my mind but the apt manager pulled up. I informed her that this is the SECOND time, I have seen toddlers outside alone. Hopefully they will put something in our Newsletter. Next time I'm calling CPS and the parents can deal with them.

We live less than 100 yrds from the Interstate. Thank God that girl walked toward the center of the complex instead of toward the street.
That's how little kids end up listed with NCMEC.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Reannan
10-11-2007, 02:05 AM
.....I just ran from the bedroom thru my apt and out the front door, pajamas, bare feet and all. Just that quick, the car was gone but the girl was still there. One of our maintenance men was kneeling down talking to the girl who was now crying.

Itsreenw....you did the right thing. If the entire world were as savy and paranoid as US here at WS's the world would be a better place. Take a bow for your decision to take a stand! :woohoo:

itsreenw
10-11-2007, 02:42 AM
Itsreenw....you did the right thing. If the entire world were as savy and paranoid as US here at WS's the world would be a better place. Take a bow for your decision to take a stand! :woohoo:TY Reannan, I just wonder if half the population doesn't watch the news.

Mygirlsadie
10-11-2007, 03:07 AM
I don't think they do. Seriously... as paranoid about everything as I am just the other day my kids wanted to go ride their bikes and I said ok well check in in 30 mins. because you know there could be a bunch of Chester Stiles lurking around..my husband said 'who?'..I was like oh God you don't know? I explained the case to him and he was like where do you hear this stuff?? Like as if I am lying or making this junk up?!..ugh.. off topic here but I just wanted to say that the little guy in your picture is just too adorable I want to just eat him up hehehe!!





TY Reannan, I just wonder if half the population doesn't watch the news.

dimples37398
10-11-2007, 04:55 AM
I agree. It was easy for him to manipulate his way into people's lives before and have access to kids in familiar settings but he is PE #1 now. Whatever little girl he can get his hands on is prey. We MUST keep our babies safe. My neighbor could've met the same fate today.

I live in an complex of 800+ apts. Today I was opening my windows in my bedroom and saw a little girl (maybe 2 or 3 yrs old), standing across the main road, by herself, clutching a Coke can. No adults in sight. About the same time I noticed her, a car came speeding past and almost hit her. The car screeched to a stop. The passenger, a female, got out the car and approached her. I was panicking for her. I didn't want to take my eyes off her but I wanted to get outside to help. My vision isnt good enough to see license plates that far. I just ran from the bedroom thru my apt and out the front door, pajamas, bare feet and all. Just that quick, the car was gone but the girl was still there. One of our maintenance men was kneeling down talking to the girl who was now crying.

He said 'Oh someone from the office is coming'. This is going to sound awful but I said "well that's good but I'll wait here because i dont want to leave you alone with her'. It just flew out of my mouth but I meant for his protection against accusations and her protection because we dont know who our maintenance men really are.

I tried to talk to her in both English and Spanish. She didnt respond but she stopped crying. I started banging on doors that were in the area we were but nobody answered. About 15 min. later the passenger in the car that almost hit her came from around the corner with 2 other kids who were able to tell us that they'd seen the little girl before come from the area behind my building.

I started back across to my side of the road which is more like a residential street and here comes her dad looking at her with a look on his face like "what are you doing across the street?" I started to give him a piece of my mind but the apt manager pulled up. I informed her that this is the SECOND time, I have seen toddlers outside alone. Hopefully they will put something in our Newsletter. Next time I'm calling CPS and the parents can deal with them.

We live less than 100 yrds from the Interstate. Thank God that girl walked toward the center of the complex instead of toward the street.
That's how little kids end up listed with NCMEC.

Thanks for letting me vent.
__________________________________________________ ________________________________


Great Job watching out for that little girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it weren't for you who knows what might have happened to her, I hope that she is safe now.


You know what, I have had conversations with neighbors and friends before, and they pretty much told me they didn't want to hear about the cases, or news I was talking about. Alot of people for some reason, don't want to watch the news or hear about the bad things that happen, because if they don't know about it then to them this world is still a perfect place.

I on the other hand, would rather know and protect myself and my children the best I can from stuff that other people have went through. There are things that you read that you would have no idea how common or that they even happen if you didn't stay up to date on the news. There are things I have read and seen around the web and news, call my dad and tell him so he can watch out for these things with my little brother who is 14 and is in high school now.

I prefer to be informed rather than ignorant about the world and the evil in it.

GREAT JOB on watching out for that little girl!!!!!!!!! If we all do this we can atleast do our little part, to make the world a safer place..........

Kel

angarella
10-11-2007, 09:54 AM
Kudos to all that are making a difference in the lives of innocent young ones.

I want so bad for this POS (CAS) to be caught. I pray for it daily......

Hugs and prayers and well wishes to SS.

blaize
10-11-2007, 01:06 PM
SS is home & hopefully in bed by now.


Thanks to Wrinkles for updating us.

[Source (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1730706&postcount=65)]
QUICK NOTE, I HAVE HEARD FROM SERIOUSLYSEARCHING!

She is now home, she is okay, she is exhausted after a day of "poking and prodding," as well as testing.

She wrote me a quick PM, told me what she has learned (she can share that if she wishes), AND that she would try to be on later tonight. Right now, she is exhausted and hoping to get the sleep that she didn't get during the events of yesterday.

If I hear more, I will let you all know, but for the moment we can be relieved that she is home, with a good sense of humor, but tired and needing rest.

I know she will respond to all of us as soon as she is strengthened.

W

MsPooh
10-11-2007, 02:01 PM
__________________________________________________ ________________________________
You know what, I have had conversations with neighbors and friends before, and they pretty much told me they didn't want to hear about the cases, or news I was talking about. Alot of people for some reason, don't want to watch the news or hear about the bad things that happen, because if they don't know about it then to them this world is still a perfect place.
Kel

I am so glad I am not the only one that faces this! Even my hubby says "why do want to have added stress"? It isn't that he doesn't care, he really does alot to help people..

DeltaDawn
10-11-2007, 02:12 PM
Just checking to see if there was any more sightings of CAS in Vegas, or anywhere for that matter.

Taximom
10-11-2007, 02:15 PM
I've seen that glassy-eyed look when I start talking about (what I think is) a big case! I just cut it short because they don't get it.

I guess if they started telling me all about what the girls did on The Bachelor show last night...I'd glaze over.

Sadly, to me, it's two different issues!

Tom'sGirl
10-11-2007, 02:37 PM
Just checking to see if there was any more sightings of CAS in Vegas, or anywhere for that matter.

Nothing new Delta............

Tom'sGirl
10-11-2007, 02:40 PM
I've seen that glassy-eyed look when I start talking about (what I think is) a big case! I just cut it short because they don't get it.

Yeah, either a glassy or blank look appears. Frequent thing told to me is "who/what are you talking about" ? :)

philamena
10-11-2007, 03:56 PM
Nothing new Delta............

:(
I was hoping CAS would be arrested by now. This guy just can't slip through the cracks. I feel certain he's abused/raped other children.
Wonder where Tina is? No talk show circuits this week?

DeltaDawn
10-11-2007, 04:18 PM
I think CAS has raped/molested/ and photographed/ videotaped himself with other children..and possibly has done the same for others. I think we will find that if any other vics come forward that they will also be known to him.. This was his MO..befriending and enchanting little ones to then rape/molest them with the confidence they would say nothing....I don't think he will pick his prey off the street so to speak because that would involve kidnapping..which is far as we know he has never engaged in. For him these have been crimes of opportunity and I don't she him changing that now. For all we know he may vics in the areas of the country he is known to haunt. They may be too young or to frightened to tell..which is what he has always counted on. And he may be hiding out with these friends in other areas...so he may still have access to children that he knows.
The 6 year old child in 2003 told her parents and the police, which resulted in the lewedness charges, but according to Todd's journal at the time Tina told everyone that the child was making this up. And it looks like Tina well may have been the person that clued CAS in on those charges. This was one of Tina's friend's child. Tina has said that she had no knowledge of this charge..but that just isn't the truth.
So how many other Tina's are there out there that will be more then willing to hide CAS and also have friends with small children that they beleive this will never happen to?

And if Tina knows names and addresses she better be talking to LE and not reporters.

itsreenw
10-11-2007, 05:42 PM
I think CAS has raped/molested/ and photographed/ videotaped himself with other children..and possibly has done the same for others. I think we will find that if any other vics come forward that they will also be known to him.. This was his MO..befriending and enchanting little ones to then rape/molest them with the confidence they would say nothing....I don't think he will pick his prey off the street so to speak because that would involve kidnapping..which is far as we know he has never engaged in. For him these have been crimes of opportunity and I don't she him changing that now. For all we know he may vics in the areas of the country he is known to haunt. They may be too young or to frightened to tell..which is what he has always counted on. And he may be hiding out with these friends in other areas...so he may still have access to children that he knows.
The 6 year old child in 2003 told her parents and the police, which resulted in the lewedness charges, but according to Todd's journal at the time Tina told everyone that the child was making this up. And it looks like Tina well may have been the person that clued CAS in on those charges. This was one of Tina's friend's child. Tina has said that she had no knowledge of this charge..but that just isn't the truth.
So how many other Tina's are there out there that will be more then willing to hide CAS and also have friends with small children that they beleive this will never happen to?

And if Tina knows names and addresses she better be talking to LE and not reporters.

I think that is because up until now, he has had the opportunity. His face wasn't all over the news before so he could move from one vic to the next by getting close to the family (via Tina) IMO.

He isn't going to be able to manipulate his way into people's lives now because people know about him. But that won't make his perverted urges go away. I think at this point, he won't care where his victims come from. He has a violent nature so I wouldn't doubt if he kills the next poor little girl he gets his paws on. He's gone for life once he's caught. He has nothing to lose. What a scary thought.

DeltaDawn
10-11-2007, 06:04 PM
I agree CAS has nothing to lose at this point..because we know he will get life in prison. And that is a very scary thought that he will fight till the bitter end. I am sure that he will go down fighting and guns blazing when he is found. I just hope he isn't killed so they can get him to talk. Tina sure didn't shut up and once caught I think he will brag about his conquests the same way Tina did..they are both such a peice of work .

itsreenw
10-11-2007, 06:23 PM
I agree CAS has nothing to lose at this point..because we know he will get life in prison. And that is a very scary thought that he will fight till the bitter end. I am sure that he will go down fighting and guns blazing when he is found. I just hope he isn't killed so they can get him to talk. Tina sure didn't shut up and once caught I think he will brag about his conquests the same way Tina did..they are both such a peice of work . I have the feeling IF he is caught alive, he will implicate Tina. She knows more than she is saying. I wish Tuck would tell where that video REALLY came from. I'm sure there are more where that came from.

We need to find out if Chet has a screen name. He reminds me of that piece of sh&t in the Groene case.

DeltaDawn
10-11-2007, 07:01 PM
I think Tuck knows alot more..but also think some of Tucks associates that are now in jail know even more. The timeline of the burglary ring starting to be arrested this summer, then also in July suddenly the warrant from the 6 year old who he molested becomes a federal warrant, then Tuck turns up at the police station with this particular tape in September leads me to beleive that a friend of Tucks, maybe in jail, knew something about Stiles, and then the warrant went to federal because this indidvidual lead them to beleive he was out of state. Something is really hinky with all these arrests..too many coincidences for me.

I quess my thought is that someone like CAS is hiding him, either willingly or under duress..but someone is hiding him now. And if they are friends and pedo's he may still have access to small children.

As far as Tina goes...her goose is cooked once they bring him in alive.
I think we are going to find Tina has always known about CAS liking little girls..great lover that he was...and I don't beleive she found anything to horrible in that, until this story blew wide open.

Sorry I've worked in social services for years..so I know that people like Tina cannot be taken at face value..no matter how many different faces they try to show on Nat'l TV, none of those faces is even close to accurate. Tina wants to appear as if she was bowled over by this charming guy..nobody's buying it Tina. Tina knew just what she was getting herself into from day one.

dottierainbow
10-11-2007, 07:28 PM
Why is the story be put on the backburner? Where is Tina at? Does anyone know?

itsreenw
10-11-2007, 09:37 PM
Why is the story be put on the backburner? Where is Tina at? Does anyone know?
I hope LE is asking media to downplay the search for CAS right now, hoping it will draw him out of hiding. Tina is probably searching for a book deal or trying to get 15 more minutes of fame OR sneaking off to meet her Superlover, CAS. She's as sick as he is.

KatK
10-11-2007, 10:36 PM
I came across the below linked article this morning and PM'd Taximom regarding making a thread for this. Then rereading the article, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. A stretch maybe, but I thought I would post it here anyways. In the presser, it was stating the man is english speaking. Watch the presser, it reveals alot of info. This poor poor girl is so lucky.

The suspect is described as a white or Hispanic male between the ages of 30 and 40, 6-feet tall with a thin build, long black hair and a distinctive goatee. He was driving a large white older two-door or four-door sedan, possibly American made, police said.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/14297647/detail.html

ETA: I don't think the sketch looks like CAS. But two traumitized little girls gave the info.


It isn't CAS, apparently. They arrested a Donald Charles Bochmann Thursday afternoon. See this (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54640) topic for links. This particular "Boogey Man" is still out there. :( :sick: (ETA: I mean Chester Stiles when I say "this particular boogey man")

justche
10-11-2007, 10:42 PM
I hope LE is asking media to downplay the search for CAS right now, hoping it will draw him out of hiding. Tina is probably searching for a book deal or trying to get 15 more minutes of fame OR sneaking off to meet her Superlover, CAS. She's as sick as he is.

I'm more jaded than you guys seem to be - I think it's purposely fallen off the radar -
I don't know that it is a priority with the LV Metro - I hope it is, but I think it will be another agency that actually finds him - or a private citizen.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 11:27 AM
I'm more jaded than you guys seem to be - I think it's purposely fallen off the radar -
I don't know that it is a priority with the LV Metro - I hope it is, but I think it will be another agency that actually finds him - or a private citizen.

I tend to agree with you about LV Metro. They have not appeared on any of the shows that the Sheriff and cutie dectective did..like LKL. Not much in the way of public pleas from them on TV.

I hope Pahrump is still on the case because they said they still want to talk with him in reference to Tuck and the tape and the little girl on the tape that was from Pahrump. I think that if it had stayed in their jurisdiction there would be alot more in the news to keep this in front of the public eye.

I am still hoping that the feds and FBI are hot on his trail because the warrant concerning the 6 year old child is a federal warrant as of this July. It appears he fell off the LV LE radar back in 2004 until now..why is my question if he has been seeing Tina and her kids since then..how hard would have he been to find?

SieSie
10-12-2007, 11:43 AM
:furious: I just can't believe he hasn't been caught yet. :furious:

christine2448
10-12-2007, 11:57 AM
:furious: I just can't believe he hasn't been caught yet. :furious:

No kidding! Where the hell is he?

What's going on?


Been really busy with a couple of local cases...can y'all give me an update? Or nothing to update?

SieSie
10-12-2007, 12:02 PM
No kidding! Where the hell is he?

What's going on?


Been really busy with a couple of local cases...can y'all give me an update? Or nothing to update?
As far as I'm aware, there's nothing to update. :furious:

I am curious why LV Metro hasn't done any press conferences or something more with the media to keep the heat on CAS. Also, I thought Dog was supposed to go after him, what's up with that? Argh, so frustrating that this scumbag is still walking around, possibly victimizing more people.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 12:03 PM
Not much to update here Christine.
No recent sightings and no new press releases..just nothing.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 12:04 PM
I haven't been able to find any info online concerning the most recent warrants from Vegas..has anyone found any info on those?

christine2448
10-12-2007, 12:29 PM
Did you all ever get contact info on the new det in charge when the case moved from Det B? Did you contact them and let them know that we could assist with keeping the story alive, see about reward $$, yada yada? I posted my initial emaill offering help to Det B...wish I had more time! He said he passed it on, I never heard from anyone.

I wonder what is going on?

believe09
10-12-2007, 12:39 PM
For what it is worth, I just emailed Duane, "The Dog" Bounty Hunter and told him that I was a sometimes member of Websleuths who was very concerned with how this story has slipped off the media's radar. I also mentioned that it seemed likely that a person with CAS's tastes would be re-offending so wouldn't Dog be a hero and catch him ASAP? I will let you know if I get a response.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 03:45 PM
I checked the LV METRO website. Stiles pic is there but they are listing him as 34 years old and just the lewedness charges from before. Nothing about the new charges or any updated images.. I don't understand that.

gitana1
10-12-2007, 04:00 PM
There are two comments about this case on a myspace forum. One is from Todd Allen asking the Dog to get a hold of him asap. The other is from a woman named Christy who said CAS brought a lot of pain to her life but that she has been having trouble getting the message out. Take a look: http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=506595&type=friendForum
&friendID=97621058&MyToken=c3fbc39b-4283-4030-92ff-4e2974c85cf9
On another note, based on the comments from LE that I have seen in the news, I think they are rabid to catch this demon and will never stop until they do. I also think they are confident that they will catch "it" soon and may have more leads than we know about that for whatever reason, they cannot let the public know about, perhaps because it would tip it off. Thus, even though this case is not getting the news coverage we would like, I have faith.

gitana1
10-12-2007, 04:02 PM
Let me try that link again!! http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=506595&type=friendForum&friendID=97621058&MyToken=c3fbc39b-4283-4030-92ff-4e2974c85cf9

dee10134
10-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Let me try that link again!! http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=506595&type=friendForum&friendID=97621058&MyToken=c3fbc39b-4283-4030-92ff-4e2974c85cf9

I've been in contact with the Christy on Myspace. She is the best friend of the mother of the 6 year old girl who was molested by Stiles in 2003.

CrimeSolver
10-12-2007, 05:48 PM
The piece of trash needs to be put away posthaste.

Taximom
10-12-2007, 05:51 PM
I hope this is still all over the media locally. This drives me crazy that he's still loose. I hope DOG stays on it. I just love him and his crew.

CaliKid
10-12-2007, 06:03 PM
It's fallen off the radar in southern California, and Stiles was supposedly seen here soon after the story broke.

Tom'sGirl
10-12-2007, 06:09 PM
It's fallen off the radar in southern California, and Stiles was supposedly seen here soon after the story broke.

Where was he supposedly seen out here?

blaize
10-12-2007, 06:27 PM
Where was he supposedly seen out here?

El Cajon wasn't it?

Taximom
10-12-2007, 06:32 PM
Many days I ago I ran across a Susan Stiles in El Cajon...but don't remember how I ended up finding her in a search. She might not even be related, but thought I'd put it out here anyway.

I hope Todd Allen is trying to help Dog and not Stiles.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 06:55 PM
snip/

From Todd's Journal:
Date:2003-12-24 12:43Subject:WEEEEEHAAAAAA

Now my mother... well lets see.. lost her job.. her fiannce is being charged with Sexual assault on a lil kid, lil kid being 6 year old girl.(i swear i'll kill him if i ever see him), and yet she is still with him.. i dont understand her sometiems but then again love is blind to all actions that are not your own... do you understand?
snip/

Dee that is very interesting..so this little girl's Mom is a best friend to Christy....wonder if her bestfriend knows CAS and can give LE any info on him..and I wonder if she knows Tina, too then? Dee maybe if you ask she will come here and post with us and we can help her get the message out.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 07:03 PM
I never saw any info put out by LE in SO CAL that they had any sightings at all of him. They said to be on the lookout for him, but I don't remember any sightings of him. If someone has a link I would really appreciate if you could post it so we can share that info too.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 07:37 PM
Also concerning the title of Todd's Journal..Hell's Doorway..he probably didn't know how apt a title that was until recently...I'm sure now he and his sister and M's Mom feel they really have been in the presence of evil in the form of CAS for a long time.

DeltaDawn
10-12-2007, 07:43 PM
And another question I have..since from Todd's journal we know they knew about these charges involving the little 6 year girl, why didn't they turn him in? Todd sounds pretty upset that CAS would do such a thing to a child...so did they forget about it with time or Tina convinced them it was false or were they afraid of him because of his violent side that they had witnessed?
Ideas on that phase of this?

Tom'sGirl
10-12-2007, 07:50 PM
El Cajon wasn't it?

Nope, only said way back in '04 Documents when he went missing that he had ties out here, but no sightings out here have ever been in the press.

He was supposedly seen in Vegas however, but that may have been a mis-lead.

Tom'sGirl
10-12-2007, 07:52 PM
And another question I have..since from Todd's journal we know they knew about these charges involving the little 6 year girl, why didn't they turn him in? Todd sounds pretty upset that CAS would do such a thing to a child...so did they forget about it with time or Tina convinced them it was false or were they afraid of him because of his violent side that they had witnessed?
Ideas on that phase of this?

I said that a long way back Delta, they all knew of Stiles charges............if Todd knew, they all knew!

Linda7NJ
10-12-2007, 08:07 PM
:furious: I just can't believe he hasn't been caught yet. :furious:


I can't believe it either.

Hoping they find his dead body somewhere, and soon.:behindbar Prison is too good for em

STEADFAST
10-12-2007, 08:09 PM
I said that a long way back Delta, they all knew of Stiles charges............if Todd knew, they all knew!

I think they all knew, too. Maybe they were in denial about whether he had actually done anything, but I believe they all must have known about the charges and his general criminality.

WhiteWolf
10-12-2007, 08:18 PM
Many days I ago I ran across a Susan Stiles in El Cajon...but don't remember how I ended up finding her in a search. She might not even be related, but thought I'd put it out here anyway.

I hope Todd Allen is trying to help Dog and not Stiles.


Taximom, I thought you found an address for Tina in El Cajone, and then Susan was listed as a possible relative or roommate?

SeriouslySearching
10-12-2007, 08:32 PM
Hmmmm...I just wonder if someone else got to him before the cops did and he is somewhere in the desert feeding the wild animals?! Didn't I hear somewhere that the Hell's Angels were looking for him or was that just wishful thinking?

Tom'sGirl
10-12-2007, 08:59 PM
Hmmmm...I just wonder if someone else got to him before the cops did and he is somewhere in the desert feeding the wild animals?! Didn't I hear somewhere that the Hell's Angels were looking for him or was that just wishful thinking?

That was a post on a Biker Site from a guy out here in my area about Stiles...........I think Stiles is listed on several MySpace pages which is a good thing..........bad thing, old photos!

My hope is that someone who knew what he used to look like a few years ago recognizes the old photos.

CaliKid
10-12-2007, 08:59 PM
I live near San Diego, west of El Cajon, and Tina does have property there.

SeriouslySearching
10-12-2007, 09:11 PM
Well, hopefully...they will recognize his freaky ears, the eyes, and those high cheekbones beyond whatever he could look like now.

I am severely dissappointed in Clark County. They obviously haven't done much to lead the charge in this case. If it could have stayed in Nye County...I have no doubt this would be resolved because the media would have been included and all over it!! People in the area would have worked with LE to solve it.

SeriouslySearching
10-12-2007, 09:12 PM
I live near San Diego, west of El Cajon, and Tina does have property there.Great! Go stake it out eh?! LOL

Tom'sGirl
10-12-2007, 09:17 PM
Tuck Faces Felony Porn Charges
POSTED: 4:04 pm PDT October 12, 2007
UPDATED: 4:38 pm PDT October 12, 2007

LAS VEGAS -- Nye County District Attorney Robert Beckett said he's filed a felony pornography possession charge against Darrin Tuck, the man who turned in a homemade videotape showing a man raping a 3-year-old girl.

Tuck's lawyer said he'll fight the charge and ask a jury whether a man should be punished for turning the tape in.

Tuck, 26, has been in the county jail in Pahrump since Sept. 30 on a probation violation for failure to pay child support. He's due in court on Monday.

Meanwhile, the search continues for 37-year-old Chester Arthur Stiles. He's been identified as the man on the tape and police consider him the prime suspect in the tape.

http://tinyurl.com/yqljxe

Note: Still spelling Tuck's first name wrong!

dkitty
10-13-2007, 02:31 PM
It's time someone finds this scum!! :mad:

DeltaDawn
10-13-2007, 02:37 PM
Maybe now Tuck will start talking to cut a deal. And maybe some of his past friends in the burglary ring will start singing too. If they did they might provide more clues to how this tape came into Tucks possession and where it was before that. Which burglary it came from? Or was this part of Tucks personal collection? Thoughts?
Personally I think this came from one of the robberies, not the desert or Tucks collection. So I hope someone starts talking so they can find the owner and find where he got the tape and keep backtracking from there.
Because for this to be copied, and we don't know how many copies are out there, that means eventually we should get to the person bought it or copied off from CAS.

Tom'sGirl
10-13-2007, 02:51 PM
Maybe now Tuck will start talking to cut a deal. And maybe some of his past friends in the burglary ring will start singing too. If they did they might provide more clues to how this tape came into Tucks possession and where it was before that. Which burglary it came from? Or was this part of Tucks personal collection? Thoughts?
Personally I think this came from one of the robberies, not the desert or Tucks collection. So I hope someone starts talking so they can find the owner and find where he got the tape and keep backtracking from there.
Because for this to be copied, and we don't know how many copies are out there, that means eventually we should get to the person bought it or copied off from CAS.

I think it came from one of the robberies also Delta. Druggies/Tweekers are know for ripping off one another, anything they can steal to make a few bucks.

You're right about tracking it down to the original source, and if Stiles were in custody I think some would sing like a bird. At this point they may be in fear of Stiles as he's still on the the loose.

I feel the Allen family has much more info. to offer, and may have done so by now as the video was filmed where they were living.

dee10134
10-13-2007, 04:03 PM
snip/

From Todd's Journal:
Date:2003-12-24 12:43Subject:WEEEEEHAAAAAA

Now my mother... well lets see.. lost her job.. her fiannce is being charged with Sexual assault on a lil kid, lil kid being 6 year old girl.(i swear i'll kill him if i ever see him), and yet she is still with him.. i dont understand her sometiems but then again love is blind to all actions that are not your own... do you understand?
snip/

Dee that is very interesting..so this little girl's Mom is a best friend to Christy....wonder if her bestfriend knows CAS and can give LE any info on him..and I wonder if she knows Tina, too then? Dee maybe if you ask she will come here and post with us and we can help her get the message out.

From what Christy said, the little girl's mother is terrified and extremely upset about his latest crime, understandably.

DeltaDawn
10-13-2007, 04:56 PM
From what Christy said, the little girl's mother is terrified and extremely upset about his latest crime, understandably.

I would be terrified too if my daughter had been used by CAS in this awful way. Now that this tape has come to light she must feel even more concern, and thankful that her daughter told her about what was happening back in 2003 before her little one ended up on a video with CAS doing unspeakable things to her.

Do you think Christy would be willing to come here and post with us..maybe that would add some reaasurance that people are concerned and trying to help in the only way they know how to...finding this perverted pedophile.

DeltaDawn
10-13-2007, 05:23 PM
Another thought is I hope the police have spoken with every pedphile they have in custody in Neveda..big job I know..but pedo's seem to befriend each other, to sell their tapes, exchange stories, etc. Someone already incarcerated knows CAS and may be able to give police a better idea of locations he frequents, both in state and out of state..

Tom'sGirl
10-13-2007, 05:54 PM
I am severely dissappointed in Clark County. They obviously haven't done much to lead the charge in this case. If it could have stayed in Nye County...I have no doubt this would be resolved because the media would have been included and all over it!! People in the area would have worked with LE to solve it.

It's unfair to expect Town Hall type Press Interviews/Conferences from LV/Clark County like the ones from Pahrump/Nye County, or expect frequent Press Interview reports from them on cases they are working on.

Unlike the small city of Pahrump large cities don't hold daily PI on cases they're working on, there are far too many. Often too much information released sometimes hampers an investigation. As with other cases, after a suspect is apprehended we learn more.

justche
10-13-2007, 06:11 PM
It's unfair to expect Town Hall type Press Interviews/Conferences from LV/Clark County like the ones from Pahrump/Nye County, or expect frequent Press Interview reports from them on cases they are working on.

Unlike the small city of Pahrump large cities don't hold daily PI on cases they're working on, there are far too many. Often too much information released sometimes hampers an investigation. As with other cases, after a suspect is apprehended we learn more.



It may not be realistic to expect it - I don't think it's unreasonable for them to keep it in the news a little more than it is.
We already know of two victims - he's 37 - you have to figure there are many many more victims, I find it hard to believe the quietness. It would seem that people would be poppin' out of the word work - especially people that Tina has babysat for over the years.
:twocents:

DeltaDawn
10-13-2007, 06:18 PM
I agree large cities can't take the time to update every case they have on TV..even the big ones. Vegas LE has alot to contend with not only being a large city but also a tourist and transient magnet. I think the FBI are probably more involved in this case then we know. Since CAS' old warrant went federal in 7/2007 and now with this new incident they are probably in the drivers seat so to speak..because they said they were looking for him in 30 locations nationwide. I think he will be found, and I am counting on people already incarerated to or about to sing. If I was a tweeker and I knew that LE had me in custody I would plea bargain with them in an instant to roll over on old CAS. And I am sure all CAS tweeker and pedo buddies are getting alittle nervous now. It just takes one to start the ball rolling.
And maybe LE wants it quiet, so if they arrest a tweeker or pedo the uproar has died down and the person is more apt to talk.

Buzzm1
10-13-2007, 06:22 PM
They certainly are being closed mouthed about where they think Chester Stiles may be. As far as we know, he has done a masterful job of disappearing. Conversely to the way much of LE feels, I always think they will do better if they feed a lot of the information they have to the public. Better to have millions of sets of eyes keyed into keeping an eye open for him, rather than just a few.

DeltaDawn
10-13-2007, 06:32 PM
I think they are counting on the cooperation of AMW in that dept...it seems like LE and AMW have been hooked up together on this since the LKL show...or was that the Talking Tina LKL show...

Tom'sGirl
10-13-2007, 06:35 PM
They certainly are being closed mouthed about where they think Chester Stiles may be. As far as we know, he has done a masterful job of disappearing. Conversely to the way much of LE feels, I always think they will do better if they feed a lot of the information they have to the public. Better to have millions of sets of eyes keyed into keeping an eye open for him, rather than just a few.

Millions have seen his old photo Buzz, on T.V. and the Internet, certainly not just a few.

DeltaDawn
10-13-2007, 06:44 PM
I said that a long way back Delta, they all knew of Stiles charges............if Todd knew, they all knew!

Tom's Girl..you did say that a long way back. I can't fathom why they didn't turn him in. According to Todd's journal he wanted to hurt CAS bad the next time he saw him..so he even believed he was capable of this. Do you not turn in a pedophile out of respect for your Mom? And did they tell their friends about this warrant..to insure that no child would be hurt in this way again? What were they thinking?

Tom'sGirl
10-13-2007, 06:52 PM
Tom's Girl..you did say that a long way back. I can't fathom why they didn't turn him in. According to Todd's journal he wanted to hurt CAS bad the next time he saw him..so he even believed he was capable of this. Do you not turn in a pedophile out of respect for your Mom? And did they tell their friends about this warrant..to insure that no child would be hurt in this way again? What were they thinking?

They obviously weren't, due to the convenience for all of them to live together and have someone there at one point or another to watch the kid/s.

Unfortunately it probably was Tina most of the time, but they all knew she saw Stiles during this time.

Buzzm1
10-13-2007, 06:57 PM
Millions have seen his old photo Buzz, on T.V. and the Internet, certainly not just a few.TG, but LE is not keeping us aware of any tips they have as to his whereabouts; that is what I am referring to.

I.e., if they said he was in Northern CA, I'd be watching for him, and so forth.

Tom'sGirl
10-13-2007, 06:59 PM
TG, but LE is not keeping us aware of any tips they have as to his whereabouts; that is what I am referring to.

LOL, I know Buzz, but many cases being investigated don't.

Buzzm1
10-13-2007, 07:05 PM
LOL, I know Buzz, but many cases being investigated don't.That's the point I was originally trying to make TG; I think the public is one of the very best LE tools, and need to be given more of an opportunity to help.

Tom'sGirl
10-13-2007, 07:07 PM
TG, but LE is not keeping us aware of any tips they have as to his whereabouts; that is what I am referring to.

I.e., if they said he was in Northern CA, I'd be watching for him, and so forth.
They have said he could be down my way, and those down here are watching for him.

angarella
10-13-2007, 08:49 PM
Someone, anyone, just please catch him..... :(

dee10134
10-13-2007, 10:08 PM
I would be terrified too if my daughter had been used by CAS in this awful way. Now that this tape has come to light she must feel even more concern, and thankful that her daughter told her about what was happening back in 2003 before her little one ended up on a video with CAS doing unspeakable things to her.

Do you think Christy would be willing to come here and post with us..maybe that would add some reaasurance that people are concerned and trying to help in the only way they know how to...finding this perverted pedophile.

I messaged her on myspace and told her about the site. Hopefully she'll stop by and check us out and will join us in the search to find this maggot.

SeriouslySearching
10-14-2007, 06:58 AM
They certainly are being closed mouthed about where they think Chester Stiles may be. As far as we know, he has done a masterful job of disappearing. Conversely to the way much of LE feels, I always think they will do better if they feed a lot of the information they have to the public. Better to have millions of sets of eyes keyed into keeping an eye open for him, rather than just a few.
I am going to have to agree with you on this one. LE NEEDS to let the public know where he has been sighted and make them well aware to be on the lookout for him. The public is one of the best tools that LE has to find a person on the run. As a matter of fact, it is the ONLY tool they have!! Stiles isn't going to call them and let them know his whereabouts!

miss_vegemite
10-14-2007, 08:03 AM
Stiles isn't going to call them and let them know his whereabouts!

:dance: I just had this silly image of CAS calling 911..if only!! Where the hell is this CREEP, someone has to know.

SeriouslySearching
10-14-2007, 08:04 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :dance: I just had this silly image of CAS calling 911..if only!!

miss_vegemite
10-14-2007, 08:17 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
It's great to have you back SS...all of WS was worried bout you:blowkiss:

Taximom
10-14-2007, 11:56 AM
Taximom, I thought you found an address for Tina in El Cajone, and then Susan was listed as a possible relative or roommate?

That wasn't me, but I'll try another search to see what I can come up with. I stopped at the time because the focus seemed to be on Vegas.

I'm sure LE knows if there's relations in CA. Least I hope so! :eek:

So no sign of any of his vehicles yet? This is ridiculous.

Taximom
10-14-2007, 11:57 AM
Is it true there's a $20,000 reward out for him now? That's what I saw at AMW.com I wasn't sure if that was old news or new, but it's the first I had heard of it.

That will surely help if any of his old crowd knows where he's at.

Indy Gal
10-14-2007, 12:10 PM
I keep coming here hoping he is in Jail! I mean come on, someone has seen him. It would be very hard with as much press this has got.

SieSie
10-14-2007, 01:18 PM
That's the point I was originally trying to make TG; I think the public is one of the very best LE tools, and need to be given more of an opportunity to help.
I agree, Buzz! The one case that I think of first is where a waitress & some diners at Denny's recognized Shasta Groene and called it in.
:clap: :clap:
The more people aware of who to be on the lookout for, the better the chances of that person being found. JMO.


I am going to have to agree with you on this one. LE NEEDS to let the public know where he has been sighted and make them well aware to be on the lookout for him. The public is one of the best tools that LE has to find a person on the run. As a matter of fact, it is the ONLY tool they have!! Stiles isn't going to call them and let them know his whereabouts!
:clap: :clap: Exactly!!! :clap: :clap:


I messaged her on myspace and told her about the site. Hopefully she'll stop by and check us out and will join us in the search to find this maggot.
Thank you, dee!!

Tom'sGirl
10-14-2007, 03:52 PM
Is it true there's a $20,000 reward out for him now? That's what I saw at AMW.com I wasn't sure if that was old news or new, but it's the first I had heard of it.

That will surely help if any of his old crowd knows where he's at.

The Reward was announced last week.

Here' a link with PHOTO in the video as to what Stiles may look like with long hair.

http://tinyurl.com/3yo22h

Another article about the Reward

Massi, Dietl & Rivera Offer $20,000 For Stiles
Oct 10, 2007 03:23 PM PDT

Some power players, familiar with the spotlight, are shedding light on the manhunt for Chester Stiles.
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A powerhouse trio, all known for their aggressive pursuit, has combined efforts to bring down accused child rapist, 37 year old Chester Stiles.

Despite the desperate nationwide manhunt, there is a new motivator.

There is a $20,000 reward being offered for Stiles' arrest and conviction.
Attorney Robert Massi, former New York detective and top cop legend Bo Dietl and Geraldo
vera are digging into their own pocketbooks.

The New York natives and prominent local hope others in the community will step up.
They want this dollar amount to reach $100,000.

http://ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7195917 (http://ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7195917)

MsRusty
10-14-2007, 03:55 PM
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7195917&nav=menu498_1_1

That was from last week's news regarding the 20,000 reward.

And Tuck has been officially charged:
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7207611&nav=menu498_1_1
He's due in court tomorrow.

One day last week, Monday I think, hubby gave a ride to a hitchhiker. When I asked why he would possibly do that he said because the man was traveling with a dog. The dog matched the description (well it was big and white) but the man had a full grown beard so I didn't bother to show hubby picture to compare. This was Nashville--and the hitchhiker was headed to Mobile, AL.

SeriouslySearching
10-14-2007, 04:36 PM
One day last week, Monday I think, hubby gave a ride to a hitchhiker. When I asked why he would possibly do that he said because the man was traveling with a dog. The dog matched the description (well it was big and white) but the man had a full grown beard so I didn't bother to show hubby picture to compare. This was Nashville--and the hitchhiker was headed to Mobile, AL.Was he not aware that Stiles was out there?!?! This is very troubling to me. Stiles could very well have a full grown beard since we don't know how fast or slow this man can grow one. We only have the Allens' versions of his last appearance. I think hubby should contact the authorities and give them all the information he has on that hitchhiker!!!! GRRRRRR!

Show him the pictures!!!!

dottierainbow
10-14-2007, 04:40 PM
He could even apply a fake beard.

Indiana at Heart
10-14-2007, 09:40 PM
Ok Sat. Night I sit down to watch AMW and what was on BASEBALL!! I'm sorry to all sports people but AMW needs to be before baseball.

Ok We need to find him and we need to find him now before he hurts another little girl.

Jaded
10-14-2007, 10:22 PM
I'm lost - who is Christy?

SLY
10-14-2007, 10:24 PM
I tend to agree with you about LV Metro. They have not appeared on any of the shows that the Sheriff and cutie dectective did..like LKL. Not much in the way of public pleas from them on TV.

I hope Pahrump is still on the case because they said they still want to talk with him in reference to Tuck and the tape and the little girl on the tape that was from Pahrump. I think that if it had stayed in their jurisdiction there would be alot more in the news to keep this in front of the public eye.

I am still hoping that the feds