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Taximom
10-09-2007, 07:55 PM
http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=7190621

Late this afternoon, detectives arrested 23-year-old James McFarland, Jr., the boyfriend of 19-year-old Erin Stanley. McFarland is charged with murdering the young woman, who police say was strangled in her bedroom September 1.
(more at link)

Taximom
10-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Continuing from here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54358

readr60
10-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Dad as in Dale . The le had heard that he possible could have fathered erins baby. they did rule that out though

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Continuing from here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54358




I cried too!!!! One down one to go!!!

I knew it.

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

IndyXgirl
10-09-2007, 08:02 PM
I do feel sorry for Alexis. So young and have lost her mommy, hopefully the grandparents will love and honor and tell her of about how much her mommy loved her.

I am also in tears.

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:02 PM
Where is Indygal we need her

Indy come out where ever you are

readr60
10-09-2007, 08:03 PM
Its a relief that justice seems to be taking a turn for the better. My prayers r with the family

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:04 PM
I am glad to see that I am not the only crybaby here!!

So LE had a suspicion that Dale could have fathered Alexis or were they just making sure in case James Attorney could have brought that question up during a trial?

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:04 PM
I sincerely hope LE has all their ducks in a row. If his grandfather is really a retired federal investigator, he's going to be really looking at everything possible to defend his grandson. I hope he's a straight-up guy and is honest with LE if James really killed Erin...and Kelly.

There are so many posters absent here right now that have been studying this case since it started!!! They will be happy to hear of an arrest.

Now if LE could only catch Chester Stiles, I'd be real happy!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Indiana:

INDY IS GOING TO GO NUTS WHEN SHE FINDS OUT!!!

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:06 PM
I am glad to see that I am not the only crybaby here!!

So LE had a suspicion that Dale could have fathered Alexis or were they just making sure in case James Attorney could have brought that question up during a trial?


I'm a crybaby too:dance: :dance:

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:06 PM
I am glad to see that I am not the only crybaby here!!

So LE had a suspicion that Dale could have fathered Alexis or were they just making sure in case James Attorney could have brought that question up during a trial?

I think they had to do a DNA test to rule ANYONE else out as the father. I'm glad they did it though. I'm sorry that the family members had to go through such suspicion, but it is quite normal in this type of crime.

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:07 PM
I sincerely hope LE has all their ducks in a row. If his grandfather is really a retired federal investigator, he's going to be really looking at everything possible to defend his grandson. I hope he's a straight-up guy and is honest with LE if James really killed Erin...and Kelly.

There are so many posters absent here right now that have been studying this case since it started!!! They will be happy to hear of an arrest.

Now if LE could only catch Chester Stiles, I'd be real happy!


Chester Stiles will be caught!!

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:08 PM
Indiana:

INDY IS GOING TO GO NUTS WHEN SHE FINDS OUT!!!


Yes she is!!!!!!!:slap:

concernedperson
10-09-2007, 08:08 PM
I am so glad to hear there is an arrest. I haven't posted much but have been following. He must have thought because he said he didn't do it that everyone would believe him.Justice for the two sisters!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:08 PM
Taxi:

I was so happy when I heard that Robert had been arrested for Naomi's murder over on the CourtTV forum. Was that case followed here somewhere?

So two arrests within that many days makes me HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we could only get THEM ALL and hang them up. I mean put them in jail in case there is a law here that I shouldn't say those things.

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:11 PM
I PM'd a few that aren't here right now but can't remember them all! Hopefully they see the new thread right away. The mods will discuss if we get our own forum or not. I don't know what the rules are for that, but it would be helpful with two different cases/1 (probable) killer and keeping track of all the associated info. We'll see!

This is quite emotional. I can't imagine what the Stanley's are feeling right now.

readr60
10-09-2007, 08:11 PM
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. They must have went through #%^#$#. But Im sure Taximom is correct. There had been so much light on the fact that the mother was so calm in the 911 call and the period before James said he woke and the call was made and etc,etc Im sure they just were covering all bases.

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:12 PM
Can anyone repost their arrest info and links from the old thread over here?

Busylady
10-09-2007, 08:12 PM
It will be interesting to see what evidence they have. If LE had heard that Dale might be the father of the baby that seems strange to me. I have never heard of a case before where they test DNA automatically like that to prove that the grandfather isnt really the father? Maybe they do and it just isnt publicized. I truly hope that if he did do this they have enough evidence to prove that, it seems to have taken a long time to get all their ducks in a row.

Al_B
10-09-2007, 08:12 PM
thank God hopefully they will be able to connect him to Kelly's too.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:12 PM
Wow! Well, they finally DID something!!! About time!!!

CaliKid
10-09-2007, 08:13 PM
So where is LE as far as Kelly is concerned. Many seem to feel so strongly that she died because she knew too much.

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Justice for Erin!!!! Now we need Justice for Kelly!!!!!

Busylady
10-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Kelly may be harder to prove because it will be difficult to place him in the house at the time of her death? Maybe there is some phone records of threats or something on the computer from James that will tie him to Kelly?

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Kelly may be harder to prove because it will be difficult to place him in the house at the time of her death? Maybe there is some phone records of threats or something on the computer from James that will tie him to Kelly?



Lets hope so Busylady!!!

IndyXgirl
10-09-2007, 08:18 PM
So where is LE as far as Kelly is concerned. Many seem to feel so strongly that she died because she knew too much.

I bet they are waiting for pathologist’s analysis of the autopsy of Kelly to charge him that murder also.

IndyXgirl
10-09-2007, 08:20 PM
It will be interesting to see what evidence they have. If LE had heard that Dale might be the father of the baby that seems strange to me. I have never heard of a case before where they test DNA automatically like that to prove that the grandfather isnt really the father? Maybe they do and it just isnt publicized. I truly hope that if he did do this they have enough evidence to prove that, it seems to have taken a long time to get all their ducks in a row.

I heard rumors that Dale had molested the girls. But like I said rumors. So that could possibly be why and also possibly due to placing Alexis in the grandparents care.

CaliKid
10-09-2007, 08:22 PM
Go Centerville LE!

SuziQ
10-09-2007, 08:24 PM
This is fantastic!

:woohoo:

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Can anyone repost their arrest info and links from the old thread over here?


Yeah I want to see it too

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:24 PM
There is no way I can catch up at the moment. Please bear with me.

1. What evidence was shown to arrest James?
2. Where in the heck did this Dale fathered his Grandbaby?
3. Is he charged in both murders or just Erins.

I am so happy we finally have a guy behind bars in this case. Ladies I told you I WILL be coming there for trial if I can get the time off and Jen lets me have her car for the day. So like I have told you guys from the beginning I will be there for you guys, you do not have to go through this alone!!!

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:25 PM
If James had a cell phone and it was on, they might be able to track the pings around the time Kelly was found dead.

CaliKid
10-09-2007, 08:25 PM
http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=7190621
As you wish.

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:26 PM
INDY
1. We don't know the evidence yet
2. RUMOR. That possibility was even discussed here, but not much, thank GOD.
3. Just Erin's death right now.

SewingDeb
10-09-2007, 08:26 PM
Indy,

1. The article does not say what evidence they have but there will be more news at 11 their time.

2. Beats me. LE is said to have ruled it out.

3. Just Erin's death.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:27 PM
I can't wait to hear LE's theory and evidence! This is going to be very good.

Then again, I think I should consider becoming a defense Atty. LMAO I was beginning to like my theory on the allergic reaction. hehehe

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:28 PM
There is no way I can catch up at the moment. Please bear with me.

1. What evidence was shown to arrest James?
2. Where in the heck did this Dale fathered his Grandbaby? (talk that people have said)
3. Is he charged in both murders or just Erins.( just Erins)

I am so happy we finally have a guy behind bars in this case. Ladies I told you I WILL be coming there for trial if I can get the time off and Jen lets me have her car for the day. So like I have told you guys from the beginning I will be there for you guys, you do not have to go through this alone!!!


Yeah Indy your here I was asking about you girl:dance: :dance:

IndyXgirl
10-09-2007, 08:28 PM
There is no way I can catch up at the moment. Please bear with me.

1. What evidence was shown to arrest James?
2. Where in the heck did this Dale fathered his Grandbaby?
3. Is he charged in both murders or just Erins.

I am so happy we finally have a guy behind bars in this case. Ladies I told you I WILL be coming there for trial if I can get the time off and Jen lets me have her car for the day. So like I have told you guys from the beginning I will be there for you guys, you do not have to go through this alone!!!
That is so sweet and kind of you.

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:28 PM
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7190808&nav=0Ra7

Story with picture here

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:29 PM
I'm here in South GA so I wont get to see the news boohoo

SuziQ
10-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Here is a picture of James.

http://wishtv.images.worldnow.com/images/7190808_BG1.jpg

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7190808

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:29 PM
I guess he can't use this anymore: Last week, McFarland told a Richmond newspaper that he wasn't involved in either sister's death. ~snip~

"I didn't have anything to do with either death or I would be in jail by now."

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=7190621

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:30 PM
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7190808&nav=0Ra7

Story with picture here

Hot Damn I'm so happy

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:30 PM
He looks a lot more threatening than his myspace pic lets on. Is that the right picture? He looks a lot older than 23 or 24. His receding hairline makes him look older.... Hmmm
http://wishtv.images.worldnow.com/images/7190808_BG1.jpg

concernedperson
10-09-2007, 08:31 PM
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7190808&nav=0Ra7

Story with picture here

That article indicates an arrest for both sisters. Is that correct?

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:32 PM
Better watch out, Indy's on your ass now buddy!

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/7190808_BG1.jpg

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:32 PM
I think WISH got ahead of themselves on their story since he was only arrested for Erin's death.

This photo does look older than 23 and he doesn't look anything like I thought he would actually. Strange.

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:32 PM
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/14304498/detail.html

McFarland was taken into custody at about 4 p.m. and was being held Tuesday night at the Wayne County Jail, according to Centerville Police Chief Larry Hart.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:34 PM
I think WISH got ahead of themselves on their story since he was only arrested for Erin's death.Just so yall know I hate wish tv most of what they say is wrong. The most reliable news channel here is wthr.com, channel 13. JMO.

Thanks for e1 quick response to my questions. And BTW Mon, tues, and Thurs i work 11 hour shifts at the clinic, so on those days expect me late.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Didn't he have a cap or hat on in his myspace pic? He does look alot older in this pic!!!

However, I thought he looked more menacing in his myspace pic than this one. IMO It could have been because it was taken from a down angle going up as opposed to this one straight forward.

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Just so yall know I hate wish tv most of what they say is wrong. The most reliable news channel here is wthr.com, channel 13. JMO.

Thanks for e1 quick response to my questions. And BTW Mon, tues, and Thurs i work 11 hour shifts at the clinic, so on those days expect me late.


Late oh no Indy :silenced:

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Anyone know, I dont see it, if A preeser is going to happen?

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:36 PM
I will post a side by side of myspace and mugshot. I see we all posted MS at same time...LOL

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:36 PM
INDY!!!

From reading all your posts, I knew you would go nuts on this latest development. Hope it makes all your boo boos from the ATV rollover feel good now! :)

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:38 PM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/m_3e8b4b7ab077e9b3f54354f0f1994836.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/7190808_BG1.jpg

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:38 PM
Anyone know, I dont see it, if A preeser is going to happen?


Said they was sending crew to Centerville would have an update at 11 pm:woohoo:

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:39 PM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/m_3e8b4b7ab077e9b3f54354f0f1994836.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/7190808_BG1.jpg


Looks to me like he lost some weight. He looks fuller on the left

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:39 PM
INDY!!!

From reading all your posts, I knew you would go nuts on this latest development. Hope it makes all your boo boos from the ATV rollover feel good now! :)Ya know I dont feel any pain right now. I feel anger. Anger at myself for even giving this POS the benifit of the doubt. Not again, I am all over this non human being!

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:41 PM
Said they was sending crew to Centerville would have an update at 11 pm:woohoo:I dont know what channels you get there but if you get ours I highly suggest 13, they are the most accurate IMO

I also thought the same looks as though he lost a good amount of weight although we dont know how long ago the myspace was taken.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:42 PM
Now, Indy...he hasn't been convicted YET! Wait until all the evidence comes out. They may not have as much as they think they have...Hmmmm.

It sure does look like he has lost alot of weight. He also has hardly any hair (which I guess is why he wears the cap all the time). Note the darkness and bags under his eyes...seems he hasn't been sleeping too well, huh?!

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:43 PM
Now, Indy...he hasn't been convicted YET! Wait until all the evidence comes out. They may not have as much as they think they have...Hmmmm.
Funny you said that as soon as I hit post I thought the same to myself. You and I almost always think the same. Although as I have said many times I could see it if it was just erin. Here is my question of the day. Do we have a COD for kelly yet. Where in the freck are CC and dancer??

Taximom
10-09-2007, 08:44 PM
I guess I assumed he had hair under that cap, making him appear younger to me! Gosh, he just looks so much older than 23.

THANKS for the info about WISH news. I'll stay away from that site! They haven't corrected that article yet.

I'm thinking he killed both girls the exact same way, thinking he got away with Erin's. I bet there will be fibers in both of their throats from being suffocated with a pillow or perhaps some clothing. :( :(

Now, will he get out on bond? Will they give that chance? Can he raise the money if he is given the chance? :( I'D LEAVE TOWN IF he was free and he knew me and didn't care for me! He killed two women within a one week period! OK, so far we just are being told one, but he's dangerous.

Can anyone access any online records regarding this arrest? I can't find a link to that info anywhere. Wayne County courts?

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:45 PM
All right guys. I'm only seeing James pic from his myspace. Where is the other pic that Indy said she was going to post side by side????? Is it my computer acting up??

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:46 PM
No COD for Kelly yet and they just redid the tox screen...so it will be another few days or weeks. Ugh! Maybe they will hurry those along.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:47 PM
I am attempting to find record of arrest, but you know how I am at searching so I may be a while...>LOL

IMO he will NOT be offered bond. And if he is it will be so high he wont be able to afford it!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:48 PM
OH HE**'S BELLS............

I got it now.

Have to click the other side. NO ACTUAL SIDE BY SIDE. Can anyone do that????

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:48 PM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/m_3e8b4b7ab077e9b3f54354f0f1994836.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z319/nathanmiki/7190808_BG1.jpgHere you go!

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 08:49 PM
I dont know what channels you get there but if you get ours I highly suggest 13, they are the most accurate IMO

I also thought the same looks as though he lost a good amount of weight although we dont know how long ago the myspace was taken.



I'm in South Georgia:boohoo:

IndyXgirl
10-09-2007, 08:50 PM
THis was stated on pal-item from bumblebug

bumblebug



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http://forums.pal-item.com/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://forums.pal-item.com/viewtopic.php?p=64022#64022)Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: the arrest
For those of us who knew James we are of course saddened by today's event. Nonetheless, I believe I would rather his future be handled in the courts than in the minds of those who had already decided his guilt. I also hope this puts an end to all the wild speculations and to all the finger pointing. In all, over the past few weeks, I have read more speculation about this case than I ever wanted to. I can only hope that common sense will prevail and that a fair and just resolution to this case will follow. I ask all to pray for the families of those effected by this tragedy and especially for Alexis.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 08:51 PM
I just KNEW if I went to take my bubblebath all hell would break loose on one of these cases!! LOL Now I am sitting here with wet hair and I can't leave to dry it. (Oh, well...it will dry. hehehe)

Gosh, Bumble acts as if he died! She/he is talking about him the past tense!! For Shame! He is still innocent until proven guilty by the preponderance of the evidence against him.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:51 PM
INDY:

Just remember that all are innocent UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY! I would rather err on giving a doubt than sending an innocent person to prison.

What if it were you.........I know you would want us to look at all the facts and then go from there!!!

DON'T EVEN THINK OF CHANGING HOW YOU TACKLE CASES!!!!!!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:52 PM
Forget the hair!!! That's what air dry is for! LOL

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:55 PM
here is wayne county court website. I cant find an arrest record though. I need help please....LOL
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/wayne/

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 08:55 PM
The first one has to do with the estate that someone brought up earlier about.

The second one is about guardianship of Alexis.

Hoosier Buckeye
10-09-2007, 08:56 PM
WHOO HOO!! Now let's hope that the ball doesn't get dropped. We can all agree that LE has taken some time with this. Hopefully that time has afforded them the luxury of having all the i's dotted and t's crossed. I will catch it on the Dayton news tonight. I have heard that they are here to cover it. My phone has been ringing off the hook with updates.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 08:58 PM
The first one has to do with the estate that someone brought up earlier about.

The second one is about guardianship of Alexis.Just so you know I am the skim queen...LOL i deleted it after I read what it was. Was he arrest in wayne county??

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 08:59 PM
I can't wait to hear LE's theory and evidence! This is going to be very good.

Then again, I think I should consider becoming a defense Atty. LMAO I was beginning to like my theory on the allergic reaction. hehehe

I think you'd be good at it, you like playing devil's advocate!!!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 09:00 PM
Are you looking for today's arrest record?????

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 09:00 PM
I haven't heard one word on national news yet...except on their websites.

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 09:01 PM
Yes CC is in Wayne County

IndyXgirl
10-09-2007, 09:01 PM
He was arrested in cambridge city but is being held at the wayne county jail.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 09:03 PM
WHOO HOO!! Now let's hope that the ball doesn't get dropped. We can all agree that LE has taken some time with this. Hopefully that time has afforded them the luxury of having all the i's dotted and t's crossed. I will catch it on the Dayton news tonight. I have heard that they are here to cover it. My phone has been ringing off the hook with updates.Forget the news!! Hoosier is getting updates!!!! (:dance: POINTS AT HOOSIER!!) SPILL IT!! :clap:

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:03 PM
Are you looking for today's arrest record?????
YES! Do you have it, I cant find it anywhere

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 09:05 PM
I think you'd be good at it, you like playing devil's advocate!!!LOL You know I do!! :D I just can't outright lie to people like defense Atty's have to do.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 09:06 PM
INDY:

I used to work at a courthouse. Most leave @ 4:30 p.m. So it will probably not be officially entered into a docket until tomorrow morning when the Clerk arrives.

IMO

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 09:07 PM
However, I will keep looking for you. But I do not expect to find anything official.

readr60
10-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Just called wayne county NO BOND!!!! WOHOOOOOOOOO

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:08 PM
LD can you please post a link to where we will be able to find it tomorrow. Thanks A lot!

Taximom
10-09-2007, 09:08 PM
Just called wayne county NO BOND!!!! WOHOOOOOOOOO

WOW, awesome job, readr60!!!

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 09:08 PM
I went out for an hour to grab dinner...and now i have FOUR pages to read :doh:

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:09 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Just called wayne county NO BOND!!!! WOHOOOOOOOOO

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 09:09 PM
Just called wayne county NO BOND!!!! WOHOOOOOOOOO

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Taximom
10-09-2007, 09:09 PM
Don't forget to come to chat if WS goes down.

LOL, goonie. No showers, no eating, no sleeping for the next few days, ok?

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:10 PM
I went out for an hour to grab dinner...and now i have FOUR pages to read :doh:Dont even bother catching up honey just jump in. I did and think it will be allowed today...LOL

ucka
10-09-2007, 09:10 PM
Wow what incredible news today. (even though 98% of us already thought he was the prime suspect)

:woohoo:

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:11 PM
Don't forget to come to chat if WS goes down.

LOL, goonie. No showers, no eating, no sleeping for the next few days, ok?
your turn to post a link with instuctions....LOL

readr60
10-09-2007, 09:12 PM
He was still in a holding cell and they said no info on arrest will be available until tomorrow!!! Does w/s have a chat?

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 09:12 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet - but here is the Indy Star story . . .

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/LOCAL/71009096/-1/RSS

dkitty
10-09-2007, 09:12 PM
Just called wayne county NO BOND!!!! WOHOOOOOOOOO

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 09:18 PM
NO EMOTICONS!!!

CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't skip with NO BOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:18 PM
Since TM didnt get my hint here is our chat link

http://www.stormdancing.net/network/java/chat1.html

first line is your WS name
second line type websleuths
then hit the green button at bottom to connect.

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 09:18 PM
Just called wayne county NO BOND!!!! WOHOOOOOOOOOhttp://www.asylumcam.com/forum/smileys1/court.gif

ME>>>http://www.asylumcam.com/forum/smileys/party15.gif<<<INDY

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 09:18 PM
I dont know what channels you get there but if you get ours I highly suggest 13, they are the most accurate IMO

I also thought the same looks as though he lost a good amount of weight although we dont know how long ago the myspace was taken.

perhaps after killing 2 people he lost his appetite.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 09:19 PM
As the Stanleys neighbor I hope they are able to BEGIN to find some peace now.
I am haunted by images of these two young women as very small girls...its all I can see when I think of them.

They loved to play basketball in thier driveway when they got older (Dale would play with them).

They used to play kickball in the street with my sons.

The main thing I will remember them for is they were ALWAYS smiling.

It was rare to see one without the other.....they were very close sisters....always laughing.

Two little girls gone forever from thier parents.

The only children they had.

My heart hurts for them.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 09:19 PM
Hey guys, I know I'm a newbie. So what's this about WS going down????

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 09:19 PM
Wow what incredible news today. (even though 98% of us already thought he was the prime suspect)

:woohoo:


Raise Hand I sure did from the start!!!!!!!!!:dance: No more :banghead: well maybe I still will untill Kelly is ruled

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:20 PM
And please tell me why I am in chat alone???

ucka
10-09-2007, 09:20 PM
James' myspace is really telling now.

james's Blurbs
About me:
im on a search to findout who killed erin and kelly stanley and i will find out who did it and i know that it was not me like everybody believes..

Seeing as how Kelly hasn't even been ruled a homicide yet, the fact that he said he was going to find out who killed Erin AND Kelly. Leads me to believe that he probably killed her too and will be charged with that one as well. It's only a matter of time.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:21 PM
http://www.asylumcam.com/forum/smileys1/court.gif

ME>>>http://www.asylumcam.com/forum/smileys/party15.gif<<<INDYAWWWW Maybe if you come into chat later I will throw you your drink of choice!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Need To Know:

I am so sorry for your loss also. You have memories of two vibrant young females/sisters who were taken long long before their time.

I for one am going to call all my kids when I log off and tell them I love them!!! (and keep praying they will be safe every day)

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 09:22 PM
http://www.asylumcam.com/forum/smileys1/court.gif

ME>>>http://www.asylumcam.com/forum/smileys/party15.gif<<<INDY



OMG too funny I'm ROFLMAO

Taximom
10-09-2007, 09:23 PM
CHAT LINK
http://www.stormdancing.net/network/java/chat1.html

You might have to install the Java applet (JPilot software) if you don't have it already. Your pc will automatically do this if you click yes to install that.

When you get to the chat screen, type in your WS nick in the Nick Name field. Type in Websleuths in the "channel" field. There are many other chat rooms so you have to specify our group!

Then click on the little yellow ball with the green arrow at the bottom. That should do it!

Need to know
10-09-2007, 09:24 PM
Littledear thank you for that sentiment...I can't even begin to feel the parents tragic loss.

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 09:26 PM
And please tell me why I am in chat alone???



I'm there indy:doh:

Taximom
10-09-2007, 09:28 PM
LOL, at INDY. I got the hint, but it took me forever to find my Chat link!!!

Please everyone try chat now, then save that page as a FAVORITE so you can just click on that if WS goes down. If WS is down, you won't be able to come back here to find the link/info.

Sometimes WS goes down without notice, especially it seems, when something happens in a case like this. That's not always why, but we just like to prepare everyone in case! So go save that link as a favorite now!

It's open all day so pop in whenever you want to chat. There aren't always people there though. I'm sure there are now! lol I have to run, but hope to come back and not catch up later. I know it will be impossible to do! hee hee

SOMEONE should save that myspace blurb he made because that indicates knowledge that Kelly was killed. Hmm. Wonder how he knew that? VERY GOOD CATCH.

:blowkiss: to everyone.

Taximom
10-09-2007, 09:32 PM
NO EMOTICONS!!!

CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't skip with NO BOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Little deer, do you know how to use the emoticons? When you reply there should be some to the right of your reply as you type. If you don't see the one you like, click on "more" and another whole page of emoticons will appear. Click on whichever one(s) you like. You can also move them around on your reply if needed. Then again, maybe you just didn't want to use emoticons! lol :blushing:

concernedperson
10-09-2007, 09:32 PM
As the Stanleys neighbor I hope they are able to BEGIN to find some peace now.
I am haunted by images of these two young women as very small girls...its all I can see when I think of them.

They loved to play basketball in thier driveway when they got older (Dale would play with them).

They used to play kickball in the street with my sons.

The main thing I will remember them for is they were ALWAYS smiling.

It was rare to see one without the other.....they were very close sisters....always laughing.

Two little girls gone forever from thier parents.

The only children they had.

My heart hurts for them.This is the most pain I have heard of from a parents viewpoint. I couldn't imagine and won't. To think that they lost both of their girls to this killer is most unimaginable and horrific. I am glad you have some good memories and maybe when the time is better you should share that with their parents. My prayers go out to you with your pain, too.

No parent should ever know this pain. This is beyond imaginable.

Taximom
10-09-2007, 09:34 PM
Need to know, I hope James does the right thing if he's guilty and doesn't take this to trial. Just plead guilty and get it overwith for the Stanley family and his daughter, Alexis.

The Stanleys sound like great people. I'm glad Alexis has them, and I think having her around will be of some comfort even though it will also be a reminder of what happened.

I'm keeping them all in my prayers.

ucka
10-09-2007, 09:35 PM
LOL, at INDY. I got the hint, but it took me forever to find my Chat link!!!

Please everyone try chat now, then save that page as a FAVORITE so you can just click on that if WS goes down. If WS is down, you won't be able to come back here to find the link/info.

Sometimes WS goes down without notice, especially it seems, when something happens in a case like this. That's not always why, but we just like to prepare everyone in case! So go save that link as a favorite now!

It's open all day so pop in whenever you want to chat. There aren't always people there though. I'm sure there are now! lol I have to run, but hope to come back and not catch up later. I know it will be impossible to do! hee hee

SOMEONE should save that myspace blurb he made because that indicates knowledge that Kelly was killed. Hmm. Wonder how he knew that? VERY GOOD CATCH.

:blowkiss: to everyone.

I have his page screen capped and saved to my hard drive for future reference. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q30/ucka11/smilies/emot-dance.gif

Taximom
10-09-2007, 09:36 PM
Well, is this a death penalty case? Does IN have the death penalty?

It sort of makes me sad that he chose this route at his young age...and now his life is ruined as well. What was he thinking???

RIP Erin and Kelly.

Indiana at Heart
10-09-2007, 09:39 PM
Well, is this a death penalty case? Does IN have the death penalty?

It sort of makes me sad that he chose this route at his young age...and now his life is ruined as well. What was he thinking???

RIP Erin and Kelly.


Yeah RIP Erin and Kelly, may you be at some peace now!!

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 09:39 PM
Taxi where are you we are all there...lol

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 09:40 PM
Need To Know:

I cannot even for a second imagine how Lonny and Dale are feeling right now. May God give them the strength and love to carry on and take care of now what going to be the most important thought every day, ALEXIS.

Again, I am so sorry for all of you that are going through this tragic time.

IndyLaw
10-09-2007, 09:40 PM
Well, is this a death penalty case? Does IN have the death penalty?

Yes, we do. I would guess the prosecutor would go for the death penalty, but they don't have to decide right away.

Laurapalmer
10-09-2007, 09:44 PM
Finally, some good news in this case!

greeneyz
10-09-2007, 10:04 PM
Finally, some good news in this case!

I hear ya Laura....I am very curious to find out HOW he did it I keep going back to "poisoning" in my mind due to the lack of any obvious means. Maybe Kelly was helping LE get into various computer sites that had to do with death by poisoning? James would have had access to thier computer...In the Scott Peterson case it was websites he had visited that added to other evidence that led LE to the conclusion that he was in fact guilty. And that might also explain the further toxicology testing that is being done on Kelly.

:behindbar JUSTICE FOR ERIN AND KELLY!!!! :behindbar

Samiya
10-09-2007, 10:09 PM
WOO HOOOO
Sorry, got kinda excited there

Sami

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:09 PM
I hear ya Laura....I am very curious to find out HOW he did it I keep going back to "poisoning" in my mind due to the lack of any obvious means. Maybe Kelly was helping LE get into various computer sites that had to do with death by poisoning? James would have had access to thier computer...In the Scott Peterson case it was websites he had visited that added to other evidence that led LE to the conclusion that he was in fact guilty. And that might also explain the further toxicology testing that is being done on Kelly.

:behindbar JUSTICE FOR ERIN AND KELLY!!!! :behindbar

I think it was simply his bare hands. I do not think he intended to kill Erin, I think it was a fit of rage therefore he was not looking up ways to poison people. Now poor Kelly that's another story, I think he broke into her window and strangled her as well as she slept.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:10 PM
gooniequeen your thoughts exactly mirror my own.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:11 PM
Afterall 6 days had lapsed and he had been exenstively "questioned" the day AFTER Erins death.

greeneyz
10-09-2007, 10:12 PM
I was wrong!!!!

http://pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/UPDATES/71009022/1008/NEWS01



A final report on the autopsy on Erin Stanley confirmed that she was strangled.

Wayne County Prosecutor Mike Shipman said he received the final report Tuesday, a pathologist’s analysis of the autopsy that revealed that the death was a homicide and that Erin Stanley died Sept. 1 of “asphyxia due to strangulation.”

That was not a surprise, he said.

“It is not new, but it is finalized in a report,” Shipman said. “Having the pathologist’s report is very critical to this investigation.”

Erin Stanley, 19, died at her home in Centerville six days before her 18-year-old sister, Kelly Stanley, was found dead in the same residence.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:13 PM
Reports have said.."the two died in the same manner".......what does that lead one to think?

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:13 PM
gooniequeen your thoughts exactly mirror my own.

:( i know, horrible no matter how it happened.

I really felt your anguish in your earlier post. must be so sureal to be there. Hopefully atleast with this arrest Lonny and Dale can move to the next phase of justice, though nothing will bring those girls back.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Kelly was telling people a mere 2 days later that her sister had been strangled.

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:14 PM
So I suppose this totally rules out suffocation right?

I was wrong!!!!

http://pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/UPDATES/71009022/1008/NEWS01



A final report on the autopsy on Erin Stanley confirmed that she was strangled.

Wayne County Prosecutor Mike Shipman said he received the final report Tuesday, a pathologist’s analysis of the autopsy that revealed that the death was a homicide and that Erin Stanley died Sept. 1 of “asphyxia due to strangulation.”

That was not a surprise, he said.

“It is not new, but it is finalized in a report,” Shipman said. “Having the pathologist’s report is very critical to this investigation.”

Erin Stanley, 19, died at her home in Centerville six days before her 18-year-old sister, Kelly Stanley, was found dead in the same residence.

greeneyz
10-09-2007, 10:16 PM
I think so Goonie they are two different things?

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:17 PM
OK answering my own questions now...

http://www.amjforensicmedicine.com/pt/re/ajfmp/abstract.00000433-200003000-00001.htm;jsessionid=HMnVQymvMTN2nLLyylpTdkcWZyzCv yflpQk13xJgwcQt30VQQn2W!-656639706!181195629!8091!-1

and

http://www.answers.com/topic/asphyxia?cat=health

So I suppose this totally rules out suffocation right?

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:18 PM
I have informaton that I know to be true that says Erins trachea was crushed.

I have known this and other things but feared jeopardizing the case.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:19 PM
As a local some of the info I have been privy too felt wrong to share.

greeneyz
10-09-2007, 10:20 PM
Now I am REALLY curious to see what the cause of death is going to be for Kelly!

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 10:20 PM
I have informaton that I know to be true that says Erins trachea was crushed.

I have known this and other things but feared jeopardizing the case.Well, that would sure clinch it that it was a strangulation!

greeneyz
10-09-2007, 10:21 PM
As a local some of the info I have been privy too felt wrong to share.

Yeh that would definately kind of put you between a rock and hard spot but now that there has been an arrest I think it's safe to talk if you want to.

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:23 PM
Well, that would sure clinch it that it was a strangulation!

well all this makes me wonder even MORE why the EFF they didnt arrest James if they knew Erin was strangled! If I were the Stanley's I would be beside myself with rage at the LE after Kelly was also murdered (because lets face it - she was)

philamena
10-09-2007, 10:24 PM
Great news. Justice for Erin....and hopefully justice soon for Kelly!
Those of you who questioned James from the beginning were spot on.:clap:

concernedperson
10-09-2007, 10:24 PM
So I suppose this totally rules out suffocation right?o/t But I just saw Kayla's myspace on your sig.That was a beautiful tribute to this baby. Her eyes said everything to me.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:26 PM
Now I am REALLY curious to see what the cause of death is going to be for Kelly!

Because they removed all the stuffed animals and bedding from Kellys death leads me to believe she was perhaps suffocated. This is just speculation on my part though. Initially I had wanted to believe that because the girls were so close that Kelly had taken her life. It appeared though that she was coping and was not headed in that direction.

In my own mind I wanted to believe that she took her own life.....her choice.....not someone taking it from her.

But the longer this has gone on I am more led to think the evidence they have is circumstantial.

greeneyz
10-09-2007, 10:27 PM
Good point Goonie...if her trachea was in fact crushed then they KNEW it was murder...I am wondering though if they had to wait for DNA testing to come back that would point the finger to James though before they could actually arrest him? They should have kept an eye on the house and provided some kind of security for Kelly though in the meantime!!!!

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:38 PM
Good point Goonie...if her trachea was in fact crushed then they KNEW it was murder...I am wondering though if they had to wait for DNA testing to come back that would point the finger to James though before they could actually arrest him? They should have kept an eye on the house and provided some kind of security for Kelly though in the meantime!!!!

I still do not understand all this DNA talk. Even IF Dale had fathered his own grandchild does not make a difference. I also STILL do not understand how they know it was James other than all 3 of them (Lonny, Dale & James) confirming that James was sleeping in bed with her. But even then and as insane as it sounds does not prove it was James. I mean I know he did in my soul - but i hope they have some more evidence - i just have the sneaky suspicion the case is flimsy.

imnotheonlyone
10-09-2007, 10:40 PM
Won't the charging papers become public record?

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:40 PM
o/t But I just saw Kayla's myspace on your sig.That was a beautiful tribute to this baby. Her eyes said everything to me.

Kayla is my hero! she is a very special girl. I created and run the page for her family. Thank you for visiting. Please read her mommy's daily blogs - they are quite inspiring.... just have a tissue ready.

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:41 PM
Won't the charging papers become public record?

ha with this case...who knows.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 10:43 PM
Please not intended for any one persone, but please stop saying that the dad was the father of the baby. NO ONE in any media or LE has said this and if it is a rumor it is very unkind in many ways. The family, mom and dad, are considered victims now.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 10:44 PM
Won't the charging papers become public record?Yes they will and we looked earlier and they have not been posted yet. Some one here said they probably would be by morning.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:49 PM
Please not intended for any one person, but please stop saying that the dad was the father of the baby. NO ONE in any media or LE has said this and if it is a rumor it is very unkind in many ways. The family, mom and dad, are considered victims now.
__________________

I agree and thank you. In all fairness noone knows what happens behind our neighbors doors and that is why it was even drawn in.....however this is not the case in this situation and this family will eventualy be allowed to grieve and move on. However, how on earth can they really ever move on. Every day they will look into to the face of thier granddaughter and see thier own child. As well as the face of the monster wo took thier childrens lives.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 10:52 PM
I wonder that myself. What I come to is they will have to go on for baby A. While I dont think it is good to have children so young, in this case I feel it was a good thing. They will always be able to see Erins face in A.

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 10:52 PM
I agree and thank you. In all fairness noone knows what happens behind our neighbors doors and that is why it was even drawn in.....however this is not the case in this situation and this family will eventualy be allowed to grieve and move on. However, how on earth can they really ever move on. Every day they will look into to the face of thier granddaughter and see thier own child. As well as the face of the monster wo took thier childrens lives.

This is exactly what I have been thinking about since news of his arrest.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 10:58 PM
One thing I would like to add.....just because.....I think Bumblebug from the Pal-Items forums was Jame's grandfather.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:00 PM
One thing I would like to add.....just because.....I think Bumblebug from the Pal-Items forums was Jame's grandfather.
Just as everything in this case.....interesting

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:02 PM
One thing I would like to add.....just because.....I think Bumblebug from the Pal-Items forums was Jame's grandfather.

I was just thinking that as well or his companion Linda Melton. For some reason it had a female ring to it for me. But whomever it was seemed mature and wise and knew a thing or two about the system.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:02 PM
goonie and Need to Know:

It sounds like both of you had inside knowledge that you could not share. How you were both able to get up day knowing what you did and also knowing you could NOT SHARE IT with anyone must have been so hard on you both. Physically and mentally!!!!!

At least we have a start here with James arrest for Erin's death. I believe very soon we will also have James announced for Kelly's death.

If there is anything any one of us here at WS can do for you both and for Lonny, Dale and baby Alexis who might live close by, let us know.

We will all be watching this case as it move forward.

God Bless and everyone give your kids a extra hug and make sure you tell them "I Love You" before they walk out the door.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:05 PM
Very well said littledeer

Shamrock
10-09-2007, 11:06 PM
OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am just now seeing this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:07 PM
Need to Know & Goonie:

If you think bumblebug could have possibly been a memeber of James family:

I am so sorry...........I sorta helped out in giving an email address that he/she could use to log in here at ws to someone else who was asking for help here. However, there was nothing wrong with that as far as I am concerned.

We are ALL HERE to help find JUSTICE FOR ONE AND ALL!!!!!!

Need to know
10-09-2007, 11:08 PM
goonie and Need to Know:

It sounds like both of you had inside knowledge that you could not share. How you were both able to get up day knowing what you did and also knowing you could NOT SHARE IT with anyone must have been so hard on you both. Physically and mentally!!!!!

At least we have a start here with James arrest for Erin's death. I believe very soon we will also have James announced for Kelly's death.

If there is anything any one of us here at WS can do for you both and for Lonny, Dale and baby Alexis who might live close by, let us know.

We will all be watching this case as it move forward.

God Bless and everyone give your kids a extra hug and make sure you tell them "I Love You" before they walk out the door.


You are truly a dear (no pun intended) I am off to bed now. I think I will rest better this night than I have in many. Goonie thank you.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:09 PM
Shamrock:

Rejoice!!

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:10 PM
Need to Know & Goonie:

If you think bumblebug could have possibly been a memeber of James family:

I am so sorry...........I sorta helped out in giving an email address that he/she could use to log in here at ws to someone else who was asking for help here. However, there was nothing wrong with that as far as I am concerned.

We are ALL HERE to help find JUSTICE FOR ONE AND ALL!!!!!!Just remeber you never know who you are helping. You also by doing this leave the mods no way to track them.

notfaraway
10-09-2007, 11:11 PM
On Bumblebug on their profile on PI she/he from Indianapolis and occupation is teacher. But I guess that can be false info.

Shamrock
10-09-2007, 11:12 PM
Shamrock:

Rejoice!!

I know!!!!! I'm happy!!

So, what all did I miss?? Obviously James was arrested. Do we know anything else? Evidence? Anything? I will try my best to catch up but I've missed 17 pages what with dealing with my real life and all...

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:12 PM
I would have welcomed Bumblebug (and still would) even James is allowed support here IMO.

Night NTK sleep well my dear :blowkiss:


Need to Know & Goonie:

If you think bumblebug could have possibly been a memeber of James family:

I am so sorry...........I sorta helped out in giving an email address that he/she could use to log in here at ws to someone else who was asking for help here. However, there was nothing wrong with that as far as I am concerned.

We are ALL HERE to help find JUSTICE FOR ONE AND ALL!!!!!!

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:13 PM
I will be posting what is on the news. Starts in 45 minutes.

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:13 PM
I know!!!!! I'm happy!!

So, what all did I miss?? Obviously James was arrested. Do we know anything else? Evidence? Anything? I will try my best to catch up but I've missed 17 pages what with dealing with my real life and all...

he was arrested and the autopsy for Erin came back death do to asphyxia caused by strangulation. Still not COD or charges for Kelly.

Shamrock
10-09-2007, 11:17 PM
he was arrested and the autopsy for Erin came back death do to asphyxia caused by strangulation. Still not COD or charges for Kelly.

Gracias, goonie!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Shamrock333/happy073.gif

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:19 PM
I'm going to be spending many a night going back to see who was asking for bumblebug to come here.

It was someone who posts here. So I can't feel bad for just saying what email I used that was acceptable. If so.........I will go to Jeana right now and have her ban me.

At that time...........everyone wanted a perspective from someone that was proclaiming to know James. Obviously they did. (knowing James based on what Need to Now and Goonie thinks bunglebug was)

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
LD - I dont think you did anything wrong. I know I myself said I wanted bublebug here....as did a few people.

I'm going to be spending many a night going back to see who was asking for bumblebug to come here.

It was someone who posts here. So I can't feel bad for just saying what email I used that was acceptable. If so.........I will go to Jeana right now and have her ban me.

At that time...........everyone wanted a perspective from someone that was proclaiming to know James. Obviously they did. (knowing James based on what Need to Now and Goonie thinks bunglebug was)

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:26 PM
Indy and anyone else:

KEEP US POSTED ON THE NEWS AT 11:00!!!!! please???

thanks!

lucimhome
10-09-2007, 11:27 PM
I'm going to be spending many a night going back to see who was asking for bumblebug to come here.

It was someone who posts here. So I can't feel bad for just saying what email I used that was acceptable. If so.........I will go to Jeana right now and have her ban me.

At that time...........everyone wanted a perspective from someone that was proclaiming to know James. Obviously they did. (knowing James based on what Need to Now and Goonie thinks bunglebug was)
You didn't do anything wrong.....why would you want to be ban? What has been done is over, it doesn't matter who that bungleburg is justice will be serve..... Stop being so hard on your self littledeer!

dellemma
10-09-2007, 11:28 PM
Greta had a blurb that she will be talking about this case tonight on her show. It's on right now but she hasn't covered the case yet.

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:29 PM
Greta had a blurb that she will be talking about this case tonight on her show. It's on right now but she hasn't covered the case yet.

Thanks for the tip - just turned it on.

Need to know
10-09-2007, 11:30 PM
Littledeer please read the PM I sent you. EVERYONE wanted to hear Bumblebugs insight.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:30 PM
Goonie:

Thanks. Guess I took it too hard that I might have done something wrong.

But I don't believe I did.

Man..............these highs and lows you go through from a case like this.
Exhausting!!

I have also been over on a CourtTV forum where the actual perpetuator who committed the crime had the audicity to post and was just arrested for the murder. So I guess, I should be cautious.

Lesson Learned.

Shamrock
10-09-2007, 11:32 PM
Who the heck is bumblebug and what did I miss?????

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:32 PM
I'm sure we would have welcomed James himself :)
Goonie:

Thanks. Guess I took it too hard that I might have done something wrong.

But I don't believe I did.

Man..............these highs and lows you go through from a case like this.
Exhausting!!

I have also been over on a CourtTV forum where the actual perpetuator who committed the crime had the audicity to post and was just arrested for the murder. So I guess, I should be cautious.

Lesson Learned.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:33 PM
Is Greta on CourtTV?????

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:34 PM
Thanks for the tip - just turned it on.

watching....

(my husband says he's "worried for my sanity") :waitasec:

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:34 PM
Can anyone send me the link to James' myspace? I can't seem to find it anymore.

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:35 PM
watching....

(my husband says he's "worried for my sanity") :waitasec:

My husband and a friend of mine said the same thing about me tonight!!! :crazy:

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:36 PM
Nancy On Cnn????

Greta On Court Tv??

Help!!

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:37 PM
Nancy On Cnn????

Greta On Court Tv??

Help!!

Greta on Fox News.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:37 PM
I'm going to be spending many a night going back to see who was asking for bumblebug to come here.

It was someone who posts here. So I can't feel bad for just saying what email I used that was acceptable. If so.........I will go to Jeana right now and have her ban me.

At that time...........everyone wanted a perspective from someone that was proclaiming to know James. Obviously they did. (knowing James based on what Need to Now and Goonie thinks bunglebug was)All i was saying is that the reasons you shouldnt do it. I am not telling you. I am really only looking out for you LD! Really. You have to be very careful when you do things like this. you really dont know who this person is and what if LE has to ask this person something? The mods would have no way to provide that info to LE. Thats all I am saying, believe me I am all for helping people but I just dont do it in a way to risk anything to myself. I really hope you dont take offense to what I said, but I just dont feel it is right to do it in that way for the reasons I have posted. Sorry again if I made you mad.

BTW A new poster will be joining us very soon. MODS are in the process of getting her in.... THANKS Chico and Animal!!

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:38 PM
fox tv

court tv

cnn

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:38 PM
Can anyone send me the link to James' myspace? I can't seem to find it anymore.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=170796798

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:39 PM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=170796798

Gracias, mi amiga! :D

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:39 PM
Richmond

I love you!

Thanks!

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Richmond

I love you!

Thanks!

Wow . . . thanks . . .:blushing:

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:42 PM
LD - I dont think you did anything wrong. I know I myself said I wanted bublebug here....as did a few people.I really think you guys should ask the mods about this. I really dont think they will be mad at cha but I really dont see this as being allowed. I could be wrong but I really dont think it is. Sorry again guys I really do hate it when others "get on" others but in this case I feel it is veryimportant for my resons posted above. Again please do ask the mods. And I really hope you are not mad. Like for instace just tonight I contacted the mods to help a person get in on their own. I am sure they ask them some things and verify as that is the reason you cant sign up with free accounts. They cant track you if LE wants to speak with you. And yes THAT is stated in the TOS at the top of every forum. How crazy would it be to recieve a phone call from LE about a post on WS.....Again hope you guys are not mad

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:44 PM
I'm new and I must have missed something...why would we not want bumblebug on here? Why would that not be allowed?

I really think you guys should ask the mods about this. I really dont think they will be mad at cha but I really dont see this as being allowed. I could be wrong but I really dont think it is. Sorry again guys I really do hate it when others "get on" others but in this case I feel it is veryimportant for my resons posted above. Again please do ask the mods. And I really hope you are not mad. Like for instace just tonight I contacted the mods to help a person get in on their own. I am sure they ask them some things and verify as that is the reason you cant sign up with free accounts. They cant track you if LE wants to speak with you. And yes THAT is stated in the TOS at the top of every forum. How crazy would it be to recieve a phone call from LE about a post on WS.....Again hope you guys are not mad

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 11:44 PM
Hmmmmm...OK WTH?! Now I have to go back and read up on what happened since I have been gone!

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:45 PM
I really think you guys should ask the mods about this. I really dont think they will be mad at cha but I really dont see this as being allowed. I could be wrong but I really dont think it is. Sorry again guys I really do hate it when others "get on" others but in this case I feel it is veryimportant for my resons posted above. Again please do ask the mods. And I really hope you are not mad. Like for instace just tonight I contacted the mods to help a person get in on their own. I am sure they ask them some things and verify as that is the reason you cant sign up with free accounts. They cant track you if LE wants to speak with you. And yes THAT is stated in the TOS at the top of every forum. How crazy would it be to recieve a phone call from LE about a post on WS.....Again hope you guys are not mad

LD - did you tell bumblebug HOW to get an email that would work - or did you let that person 'borrow' an email of yours? If you let the other person borrow your email, then that is not a good idea - but if you told them what email they could use (gmail, sbc, etc.) then that is a different story - I'm confused.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:48 PM
I'm new and I must have missed something...why would we not want bumblebug on here? Why would that not be allowed?Please understand I want him or her here, but they have to do it the correct way. The way posted was not the correct way I dont think And I am really only looking out for LD. I do just love that little dear~ I hope you guys understand this. Not that I dont want them here, they need to get here the correct way. Please SS, TAXI, Or Busy lady or DS Correct me if I am wrong here.

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:49 PM
LD - did you tell bumblebug HOW to get an email that would work - or did you let that person 'borrow' an email of yours? If you let the other person borrow your email, then that is not a good idea - but if you told them what email they could use (gmail, sbc, etc.) then that is a different story - I'm confused.Correct, did I misunderstand> If you gave him the info to do it with his own email, that is okay and I am so sorry for this mess.

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:50 PM
Coming Up On Greta Next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:51 PM
LD - did you tell bumblebug HOW to get an email that would work - or did you let that person 'borrow' an email of yours? If you let the other person borrow your email, then that is not a good idea - but if you told them what email they could use (gmail, sbc, etc.) then that is a different story - I'm confused.


ahhhh ok I see. Still I'm sure it was an innocent boo boo - but you might want to just lets the mods know you didnt know and they can be aware. (this is if you lent BB your email address to use)

Indy Gal
10-09-2007, 11:51 PM
Coming up next on news....LOL LD If I misunderstood you I am so sorry! I hope you know that!

Shamrock
10-09-2007, 11:52 PM
Okay, the whole bumblebug/bubblebutt/bumblescum (whatever) thing... again... WTF happened?? I missed something in between here and dealing w/ my real life. Someone?? Anyone?? Please??

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 11:52 PM
watching....

(my husband says he's "worried for my sanity") :waitasec:Funny! People only worry about INSANITY! :crazy:

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:52 PM
....eyes peeled on TV....

Littledeer
10-09-2007, 11:53 PM
brb

with info on what you are all asking

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:53 PM
Eds on TV!!!

gooniequeen
10-09-2007, 11:55 PM
no info.....drats

Busylady
10-09-2007, 11:56 PM
I agree with everything you said Indy, its not a case of not wanting that person here, its a case of them getting here through the proper channels.

FormerRichmondRes
10-09-2007, 11:58 PM
I agree - no new news on Greta, but at least we got to hear our pal Ed on TV. (isn't that who you talked to Indy?)

SeriouslySearching
10-09-2007, 11:58 PM
Littledeer, it is fine to tell people what email accounts are acceptable to get on here...so stop fretting! You did nothing wrong.

I certainly would have welcomed Bumble on here! I was doing my best to play Devil's Advocate for James and could have used a little help!

I also want to tell his grandfather and family how sorry I am that it has come to this and I wish they weren't having to deal with such a tragedy in their family, too. I know it must be such a horrible shock and disappointment.

gooniequeen
10-10-2007, 12:01 AM
yes perhaps a bit OT - but the McFarland family seems to have faced a tremendous amount of tragedy and now this. not using it as an excuse (as there is never an excuse for voilence IMO) but it just amazes me the human wreckage that some people have to endure while others skip through life with none.


Littledeer, it is fine to tell people what email accounts are acceptable to get on here...so stop fretting! You did nothing wrong.

I certainly would have welcomed Bumble on here! I was doing my best to play Devil's Advocate for James and could have used a little help!

I also want to tell his grandfather and family how sorry I am that it has come to this and I wish they weren't having to deal with such a tragedy in their family, too. I know it must be such a horrible shock and disappointment.

gooniequeen
10-10-2007, 12:04 AM
is it 11pm in Indy?

Littledeer
10-10-2007, 12:05 AM
Whoever wanted bumblebug here (and I honestly can't remember who said he/she couldn't get on.)

All I said, was that I was able to get on using a lycos.com account and that maybe he/she could pass that info on. NO WAY DID I GIVE ANYONE MY ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, if a mod says I did something wrong I will take the consequences. What I teach my children I certainly expect me to take the same.

In the meantime...........I will help as much as I can.

ucka
10-10-2007, 12:06 AM
PI has updated their original story on this with a lot of information from LE.

I found this interesting...

The report has been delayed because the pathologist is reviewing the circumstances of Kelly Stanley’s death with other pathologists, Shipman said. The pathologist also has ordered another toxicology test and asked for photographs of the teen’s bedroom, the prosecutor said.

http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/NEWS01/71009023

I wonder what the pictures of the bedroom are for? Signs of struggle or a break in possibly?

It also says James was staying with a friend at the time of his arrest, I thought he was staying with his grandparents?

gooniequeen
10-10-2007, 12:06 AM
nope you did nothing wrong. Indy misunderstood - we'er all good we can move on now :truce:

Whoever wanted bumblebug here (and I honestly can't remember who said he/she couldn't get on.)

All I said, was that I was able to get on using a lycos.com account and that maybe he/she could pass that info on. NO WAY DID I GIVE ANYONE MY ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, if a mod says I did something wrong I will take the consequences. What I teach my children I certainly expect me to take the same.

In the meantime...........I will help as much as I can.

Indy Gal
10-10-2007, 12:07 AM
News report 10-9-07 Arrest of james Mcfarland

1. Le not saying much
2. James was a POI from start per ED
3. Erin was strangled
4. Only published reports says the deaths are in the same fasion, LE has not said this
5. wayne county Jail No bond!

Littledeer
10-10-2007, 12:07 AM
Indy Had Better Be In Front Of A Tv Right Now!!!

:)

gooniequeen
10-10-2007, 12:08 AM
PI has updated their original story on this with a lot of information from LE.

I found this interesting...



http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/NEWS01/71009023

I wonder what the pictures of the bedroom are for? Signs of struggle or a break in possibly?

It also says James was staying with a friend at the time of his arrest, I thought he was staying with his grandparents?

We clarified that in an earlier post that his Grandfather lives in Indy and that he was not staying with his Grandfather.

No idea why they want pictures...interesting

Indy Gal
10-10-2007, 12:08 AM
Whoever wanted bumblebug here (and I honestly can't remember who said he/she couldn't get on.)

All I said, was that I was able to get on using a lycos.com account and that maybe he/she could pass that info on. NO WAY DID I GIVE ANYONE MY ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, if a mod says I did something wrong I will take the consequences. What I teach my children I certainly expect me to take the same.

In the meantime...........I will help as much as I can.
I am so sorry i misunderstood. I thought you lent them your email to use. Thats all....hope you hold no grudge! And again I do want everyone here who wants to say something!

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:10 AM
"In the days leading up to the arrest, Buchholz said he interviewed McFarland once and a second interview was halted when McFarland invoked his right to an attorney."

I found this part particularly interesting . . .

Indy Gal
10-10-2007, 12:11 AM
"In the days leading up to the arrest, Buchholz said he interviewed McFarland once and a second interview was halted when McFarland invoked his right to an attorney."

I found this part particularly interesting . . .
you dont need a lwyer if you did nothing, at least at that point in the investigation

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:13 AM
Another story in the P-I has been updated . . .

http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/UPDATES/71009029

"
Shipman said he has been told that the pathologist in Fort Wayne has asked for additional toxicology analysis and is consulting other pathologists around the state.

The pathologist also has requested to examine photographs of the bedroom in which Kelly Stanley died.

“Requesting the photographs is very common,” Shipman said. “The additional testing means that he is testing for something different than what was originally tested for.”

The toxicology report initially showed that Kelly Stanley had no drugs or alcohol in her system when she died.
Shipman said he was still unsure as to when he would receive the final report on Kelly Stanley’s death. Officials initially said that a preliminary analysis of her autopsy indicated Kelly died in the same fashion as her sister.

Later they said that further analysis of the autopsy did not confirm that claim."

notfaraway
10-10-2007, 12:15 AM
goonie, the grandfather --James Arnold lives in Richmond with companion Linda Melton. Bumblebug gives her/he in PI form profille as Indianapolis and occupation as teacher

SeriouslySearching
10-10-2007, 12:15 AM
This is a site which is supposed to look at every possible motive and every possible scenario in order to bring justice to the ones who can no longer speak for themselves. Erin and Kelly are among those.

I thought about writing a letter of apology to Mr. & Mrs. Stanley, but the more I thought about it...the more I realized I shouldn't. We shouldn't apologize for what we do here in trying to figure out what happened to any child, person, or persons. We spend countless hours trying to help in any way we can to bring peace to the not only the families, but to the ones like Erin and Kelly who can't tell us what happened to cut their lives so short.

I am sorry they lost their beloved daughters. I am so very sorry for Alexis losing her mother and now possibly her father to this senseless act or acts. She also lost another important part of her life in her Aunt Kelly. Her life has begun before her first birthday with so much sorrow and pain. I pray she will have much love and happiness as she grows away from this tragedy and into a loving, safe, and secure home with the Stanley family. I will keep them all in my thoughts and prayers.

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:18 AM
We spend countless hours trying to help in any way we can to bring peace to the not only the families, but to the ones like Erin and Kelly who can't tell us what happened to cut their lives so short.

I am sorry they lost their beloved daughters. I am so very sorry for Alexis losing her mother and now possibly her father to this senseless act or acts. She also lost another important part of her life in her Aunt Kelly. Her life has begun before her first birthday with so much sorrow and pain. I pray she will have much love and happiness as she grows away from this tragedy and into a loving, safe, and secure home with the Stanley family. I will keep them all in my thoughts and prayers.

Well said, SS. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:19 AM
One more . . .

http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/UPDATES/71009031/1008/NEWS01

Littledeer
10-10-2007, 12:21 AM
rr:

Me too!! Wrote it down!!! Because in a post James said "they have interviewed me MANY TIMES".......

here it is only 1 and then a 2nd time which was halted for him to invoke his right to an attorney. He needs an attorney now?? hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Cicada
10-10-2007, 12:21 AM
I recommend that anyone talking to LE as a suspect speak with a lawyer first.
Whether you are innocent or guilty. (IMO)

Littledeer
10-10-2007, 12:23 AM
SS:

Crying. VERY WELL SAID.

Cicada
10-10-2007, 12:23 AM
:clap:quote=SeriouslySearching;1727884]This is a site which is supposed to look at every possible motive and every possible scenario in order to bring justice to the ones who can no longer speak for themselves. Erin and Kelly are among those.

I thought about writing a letter of apology to Mr. & Mrs. Stanley, but the more I thought about it...the more I realized I shouldn't. We shouldn't apologize for what we do here in trying to figure out what happened to any child, person, or persons. We spend countless hours trying to help in any way we can to bring peace to the not only the families, but to the ones like Erin and Kelly who can't tell us what happened to cut their lives so short.

I am sorry they lost their beloved daughters. I am so very sorry for Alexis losing her mother and now possibly her father to this senseless act or acts. She also lost another important part of her life in her Aunt Kelly. Her life has begun before her first birthday with so much sorrow and pain. I pray she will have much love and happiness as she grows away from this tragedy and into a loving, safe, and secure home with the Stanley family. I will keep them all in my thoughts and prayers.[/quote]


:clap::clap:[ Very well said!

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:24 AM
I recommend that anyone talking to LE as a suspect speak with a lawyer first.
Whether you are innocent or guilty. (IMO)

I agree. But he was never a suspect, just a POI . . . until he was arrested.

So that gets kind of confusing . . . should you always assume you're a suspect if you're being interviewed by LE?:confused:

Littledeer
10-10-2007, 12:24 AM
Indy:

No harm done. You just went down a notch or two. LOL

ok.........I lied. It hurt but I understand.

Cicada
10-10-2007, 12:25 AM
I agree. But he was never a suspect, just a POI . . . until he was arrested.

So that gets kind of confusing . . . should you always assume you're a suspect if you're being interviewed by LE?:confused:

Very good question. Personally, if I knew I was one of three there at the time, I would speak with a lawyer before talking to anyone else.

(also, it seems like anymore, POI is just another way of saying suspect with no evidence yet...)

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:26 AM
Indy:

No harm done. You just went down a notch or two. LOL

ok.........I lied. It hurt but I understand.

Littledeer -

Please do not be upset with Indy or anyone else. We were all confused. I think sometimes we get so caught up in our emotions and wanting to type our comments and questions that we don't take the time to re-read our own post to see if it is going to make sense to everyone else.

Maybe this is a lesson for all of us to try to communicate more clearly. :)

All is well now . . .

FRR

joyfulmorning
10-10-2007, 12:27 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Wow!!! An arrest! I am soooo happy that this case is moving forward. I havent kept up with the threads on this case for a couple of days and now. I am not sure if I can ever get caught up, so bear with me. In my trying to catch up, I think I read somewhere about James' grandfather being a retired federal something. Can anyone help me with this?

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:27 AM
if I knew I was one of three there at the time, I would speak with a lawyer before talking to anyone else.

Good point. :doh:

Cicada
10-10-2007, 12:28 AM
Federal investigator

ucka
10-10-2007, 12:28 AM
Very good question. Personally, if I knew I was one of three there at the time, I would speak with a lawyer before talking to anyone else.

I agree. Even if he was 100% innocent, when being scrutinized for a homicide I would strongly recommend legal counseling. There have been too many cases of false confessions, and wrongful convictions in the past. LE does the best they can, but in the end they are still human and make mistakes.

Cicada
10-10-2007, 12:29 AM
Good point. :doh:

:p :slap:

Indy Gal
10-10-2007, 12:29 AM
Yeah my lesson learned is stop skimming....LOL

Cicada
10-10-2007, 12:30 AM
I agree. Even if he was 100% innocent, when being scrutinized for a homicide I would strongly recommend legal counseling. There have been too many cases of false confessions, and wrongful convictions in the past. LE does the best they can, but in the end they are still human and make mistakes.


Or they get so caught up with the pressure from the media and/or public that they jump the gun.

SeriouslySearching
10-10-2007, 12:30 AM
I recommend that anyone talking to LE as a suspect speak with a lawyer first.
Whether you are innocent or guilty. (IMO)I could not agree more!! My family has always been instructed to ALWAYS request a lawyer immediately if ever they are speaking to LE for any reason where they feel they could be a suspect! (I taught them this as one of the lessons in life they should file away for a just in case someday scenario...like safe sex!)

I am well aware of tactics used by LE which I feel should be legally changed (being able to lie, cheat, and doctor evidence for a confession or a statement). This is one of my pet peeves! Why should LE be able to do these things when we, as citizens, are not allowed by LAW?! :furious:

FormerRichmondRes
10-10-2007, 12:31 AM
Yeah my lesson learned is stop skimming....LOL

Indy - you are hereby stripped of your skimming crown until further notice. For you to be able to regain your crown, you must attend 2 WS Anonymous meetings per week.

LOL :blowkiss:

joyfulmorning
10-10-2007, 12:31 AM
This is a site which is supposed to look at every possible motive and every possible scenario in order to bring justice to the ones who can no longer speak for themselves. Erin and Kelly are among those.

I thought about writing a letter of apology to Mr. & Mrs. Stanley, but the more I thought about it...the more I realized I shouldn't. We shouldn't apologize for what we do here in trying to figure out what happened to any child, person, or persons. We spend countless hours trying to help in any way we can to bring peace to the not only the families, but to the ones like Erin and Kelly who can't tell us what happened to cut their lives so short.

I am sorry they lost their beloved daughters. I am so very sorry for Alexis losing her mother and now possibly her father to this senseless act or acts. She also lost another important part of her life in her Aunt Kelly. Her life has begun before her first birthday with so much sorrow and pain. I pray she will have much love and happiness as she grows away from this tragedy and into a loving, safe, and secure home with the Stanley family. I will keep them all in my thoughts and prayers.

I am sure that this ordeal has not been easy for Mr. and Mrs. Stanley, however, we wouldn't be doing Erin and Kelly justice by not asking the hard questions. I am sure that in time the Stanley's will begin to heal and understand that what we post here isn't anything personal against them.

Cicada
10-10-2007, 12:32 AM
Gotta go! 5:00am comes WAY too early!

Littledeer
10-10-2007, 12:32 AM
If your innocent, then you wouldn't consider yourself a suspect.

But if your not innocent, then you would consider yourself a suspect.

And maybe because of how your feeling, it gets transcended to the interview of you during your questioning.

Did that make sense guys?

joyfulmorning
10-10-2007, 12:34 AM
Federal investigator
That is interesting. I am going to have to do a better job of keeping up. LOL. Perhaps he assisted James with the decision to lawyer up.