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ihadcabinfever
02-27-2007, 07:53 PM
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/157dfny.html
Cindy Loretta Rowles
Missing since August 16, 1986 from Kingston, Ulster County, New York.
Classification: Endangered Missing


Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: December 18, 1968
Age at Time of Disappearance: 17 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5; 130 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Sandy hair; hazel eyes.
Marks, Scars, Tattoos: Rowles wears eyeglasses and has a tattoo on her left arm.
Dentals: Available.

vs.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/335ufoh.html

Reconstruction of Victim by S. Anderson

Unidentified White Female


The victim was discovered on June 16, 1987 in Toledo, Ohio


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Vital Statistics


Estimated age: 16 - 21 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'4" - 5'8"; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Light brown/dark blonde hair of fine texture, 6-7 inches long. Slender build.
Dentals: Near perfect alignment of front teeth. Lower first molars and upper right first molar extracted in late childhood. Third molars not present (upper left impacted). No fillings or restorations.
Clothing: Jordache jeans. 5 pearl earrings in each ear.
DNA: in CODIS

ihadcabinfever
06-23-2007, 12:26 AM
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/minish_becky.html

Becky Annette Minish

http://www.charleyproject.org/images/m/minish_becky.jpg http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q697/Carlkopp90245/Facial%20Reconstructions%20002/2499276970045078242S200x200Q851_zps5f2aa94a.jpg
http://www.charleyproject.org/banners/bar.jpg Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance


Missing Since: March 17, 1987 from Richmond County, Georgia





Classification: Endangered Missing
Age: 19 years old
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Blonde hair.
http://www.charleyproject.org/banners/bar.jpg
Details of Disappearance


Minish was last seen leaving her job at a fast food restaurant on Wrightsboro Road in Richmond County, Georgia on March 17, 1987. She has never been heard from again. Her car was found a few days later at the Wrightsboro Road exit of Bobby Jones Expressway. One of its tires was flat, the door had been pried open, and the steering column was smashed. There was no sign of Minish at the scene. She resided in Evans, Georgia in 1987. Her case remains unsolved and foul play is suspected.



and


http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/335ufoh.html

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q697/Carlkopp90245/Facial%20Reconstructions%20002/2499276970045078242S200x200Q851_zps5f2aa94a.jpg
Reconstruction of Victim by S. Anderson
Unidentified White Female






The victim was discovered on June 16, 1987 in Toledo, Ohio

Vital Statistics






Estimated age: 16 - 21 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'4" - 5'8"; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Light brown/dark blonde hair of fine texture, 6-7 inches long. Slender build.
Dentals: Near perfect alignment of front teeth. Lower first molars and upper right first molar extracted in late childhood. Third molars not present (upper left impacted). No fillings or restorations.
Clothing: Jordache jeans. 5 pearl earrings in each ear.
DNA: in CODIS
Case History
The victim was located on June 16, 1987 in Toledo, Ohio, near Interstate
75.


This is a scary story. A flat tire and the door pried open?
Steering column smashed.

Pried open with a tire iron? Good God.

Taximom
06-23-2007, 12:30 AM
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/m/minish_becky.jpg

WOW. I'd say that's pretty close.

Toledo seems so far from Georgia, but maybe a trucker was involved?

Taximom
06-23-2007, 12:32 AM
When they say "five pearl earrings in ear" do they mean 5 separate holes? Or an earring with 5 pearls in it? That might help if you could match that up.

ihadcabinfever
06-23-2007, 12:49 AM
It is far . I am starting to think these people end up far away. Like it is purposly done that way so it puts distance between the crime and the person responsible so that way searchers never find these people for a very long time.

Then they get away with it and they can do it again and again to someone else the next time these animals loose their temper or whatever it is that drives them to kill innocent young unassuming naive girls,tossing them to the side of the road in a ditch or the woods like garbage because they need to feel powerful . Then they think they are smarter than everyone.

Oh , I am not sure about the earrings.Minish was 19 years old at the time she dissapeared so it could be possible that she had her ears peirced that many times. I think my younger sister had alot of earrings around that time too but I could not guess how many.

Taximom
06-23-2007, 12:54 AM
Well, Toledo is off the Ohio turnpike and another major highway-the number I can't remember right now! I-90?

They look enough alike to me. I'm sure others will comment this weekend. That would be cool if you matched another one! :blowkiss:

ihadcabinfever
06-23-2007, 01:10 AM
I didn't know I matched anything , I just put it up to see what happens.
I bet someone put this together before along the line here. I couldn't find it . It could be in the archives.

laini
06-23-2007, 10:23 PM
Looks a lot alike! I would hope this has been ruled out years ago. Only because - they look SO similar that I would hope LE already checked it out years ago, and not just overlooked by LE. (Know what I mean?) I am curious if it has been ruled out. Definatley looks like the same person!

MaryLiz
06-23-2007, 10:32 PM
Well, Toledo is off the Ohio turnpike and another major highway-the number I can't remember right now! I-90?

They look enough alike to me. I'm sure others will comment this weekend. That would be cool if you matched another one! :blowkiss:

Interstate 75 runs from Hialeah, Florida to Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan and both Georgia and Toledo, OH are directly off I-75

They do look very much alike.

MaryLiz
06-23-2007, 10:36 PM
Oops! Sorry, I missed where it said the unidentified victim was found along I-75 in the first place!

InterestedNHelping
06-25-2007, 11:15 AM
If you think you have a match, no matter how sure or unsure you are, you can send it to doenetwork, and they are really good about getting back to you on whether it has been explored already, or not, Rocky is very kind and helpful with that. Then you can have an idea, what is already checked, just email them, it's really easy and they are very kind, whether or not it is a match.

Ms Suzanne
06-28-2007, 06:39 PM
Hi
Have you heard anything back as a possible match to Becky Minish yet?I asked about Becky as a match awhile ago and never heard anything back.I was looking into this Jane Doe as a possible match to my sister.She also fits this girl a little bit too.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/748dffl.html

suzanne

ihadcabinfever
06-28-2007, 08:04 PM
Suzanne , I didn't ask yet. I was waiting to see what anyone thought. I thought it could be a match . I couldn't find much about Minish. Even if you submit it they can't tell you anything or won't because they have to look into it further.1987 is a long time ago. It could be anyone's guess.

Ms Suzanne
06-28-2007, 09:23 PM
Hi
You probably need to just call the law enforcement directly.It does look like a good match.DNA comparison takes awhile.But they can always check dental if they have them on both.

suzanne

ihadcabinfever
06-28-2007, 11:19 PM
Suzanne , I asked and will wait to hear back.

ihadcabinfever
06-28-2007, 11:22 PM
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/m/minish_becky.jpg

WOW. I'd say that's pretty close.

Toledo seems so far from Georgia, but maybe a trucker was involved?

Maybe...could be a trucker or a salesman. Anyone travelling long distance. I don't know.

Spazkat9696
06-29-2007, 01:05 AM
She may have left the car when it got the flat and someone came after her and broke in with a tire iron. I know it sounds dumb why not just brake the window but my hubby's truck was broken into a week after my car (Very MAD) but the use a crowbar or something to pry the door open rather than break the glass. Talk about a repair bill. I could see her hitching a ride after she got the flat leaving the car and like ihadcabinfever said if she was picked up by a trucker held and dumped is could be her. I know they have caught a few truckers who have kidnapped, raped and murdered. They are harder to catch and link to crimes because the LE don't see the link between the crimes like they would if all the victims were in the same city.

Zanko
07-07-2007, 05:32 PM
I often wonder why more information is not available, such as with height and weight for Becky? Did I miss the information? If it is 5 piercings in one ear, this would be a good detail to have for making a match. With so many people missing and unidentified, I wonder why there isn't more info listed to help make a match?

Ms Suzanne
10-13-2007, 10:27 AM
Hi
I have a very strong and special interest in this Unidentified Jane Doe.I know there was a discussion awhile back.If this could be Becky Minish.Did anyone find out more about this?I don't think there was dental on becky.I am not sure though.In this article it says she could be a street person?This bothers me.She appeared too well groomed to me to be a street person.Do they know where the rug she was wrapped in or the pool cover could have came from?Does anyone know or can find out the name of the Auto body shop it use to be?What else was near there or any more on this Jane Doe found?





Plain Dealer,
The Cleveland, OH
June 30, 1997
Edition: FINAL / LAKE
Section: METRO
Page: 5B



IDENTITY OF WOMAN FOUND DEAD A LONGTIME MYSTERY IN TOLEDO
Author: ROBIN ERB THE BLADE
Dateline: TOLEDO





Do I remind you of someone?
The reconstruction of her smiling face has prompted that same question for years, but no one has been able to offer answers to Jane Doe, officially known as Lucas County coroner's case No. A270-87.
She is the county's only unidentified female death case and has become one of the area's longest-running mysteries. Today, exactly 10 years since her burning body was found in an alley near Detroit Ave. and Collingwood Blvd., investigators have more questions than answers.
The woman, estimated to be 16 to 21 years old, was wrapped in a tan tweed carpet and a pool cover, thrown into a bunch of weeds behind an abandoned auto body shop, and doused with gasoline. A passing motorist found her body, which was charred and decomposed beyond recognition.
She probably died of a cocaine overdose several days earlier, the coroner's office said. The body showed no signs of trauma or injury besides those caused by the fire.
Authorities believe those who were with her panicked and dumped her body, but investigators haven't ruled out homicide.
"We just didn't have any answers to those questions," Coroner James Patrick said.
Jane Doe was Caucasian, possibly having some American Indian in her ancestry. She was 5 feet 4 to 5 feet 8, of slender build, with blond or light brown hair. She had several pearl earrings in each ear, bright pink polish on her toenails and finger nails, and wore Jordache jeans.
Her dental work was unusual in that her front teeth were straight, but her lower first molars and upper right molar had been extracted when she was young.
Most likely, forensic anthropologist Julie Saul said, Jane Doe had a beautiful smile.
In the basement of the county coroner's office, Jane Doe's skull sits on a laboratory shelf where Julie Saul and her husband, Frank, see her every day.
The couple, forensic anthropologists who work for the coroner's office, might be the only possible link to Jane Doe's identity.
The Sauls have taken their search for her name far beyond their Arlington Ave. lab. When they travel on lectures, they carry a picture of Jane Doe with them and study the faces on all the missing-persons posters they can find.
They watch shows like "America's Most Wanted" and "Unsolved Mysteries" for clues.
Inquiries have come from as far away as New Jersey, Tennessee, Texas, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
But time and time again, dental records and other identifiers have become dead ends, leading the Sauls back to the same questions.
Where was she from? Why did she die? Why would someone set her on fire and dump her body?
In 1991, frustrated by dead-end computer searches, the Sauls turned Jane Doe's skull over to Amy Sanderson, a forensic scientist at the Michigan State Police crime lab in East Lansing, Mich.
Anderson used clay, complicated anthropological formulas, and a bit of artistic guesswork to reconstruct Jane Doe's face.
Investigators put posters of the reconstructed face in police stations across the region.
A cartoon-like speech bubble connected to her face asks: "Do I remind you of someone?"
Today, thistles, tall grass, and flowers grow behind a former auto-body shop where a North Toledo man found the smoking body on June 16, 1987.
Detective Tom Ross, the lead investigator on the case, returned to the site recently - on a muggy, partly overcast morning much like the one 10 years ago when the body was found.
Investigators had searched the area extensively, including the weeds and roof of the body shop. They interviewed neighbors. They tried to match their Jane Doe with women missing from other states.
In the end, they came up with nothing. Her file was long ago shelved in the dusty basement of the Safety Building downtown.
The case gnaws at Ross, who has spent more than two decades solving Toledo homicides, meticulously recording each one in a three-ring binder.
He theorizes that the woman might have been institutionalized for years in an orphanage or a similar facility. Perhaps she was released, turned to drugs, and was forever lost to the streets. Under those circumstances, he said, she probably would have no relatives and no one to miss her.
"I still think of her every once in a while," he said. "I still wonder. I don't know if we'll ever find answers. There's always a chance."
The Sauls have not given up hope either. Anthropologists, Frank Saul said, must steel themselves against becoming personally involved with their subjects.
But as Julie Saul handles Jane Doe's skull, her fingers tracing the eye sockets and teeth, it is with more than clinical curiosity.
"The last thing we can do for anybody is to identify them and understand why they died," she said, shaking her head.
How sad it must be to die without loved ones, she ponders aloud. How sad it is not to know where loved ones have gone.
The Sauls would not say where Jane Doe's remains were buried. Frank Saul said he prefers to think of her grave not as Jane Doe's final destination, but as a temporary resting place until she can be buried with family.
"We want to offer something to her next of kin, give them some resolution," Frank Saul said.
"It's a matter of respect. You have to keep trying - you must."



http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases.yuku.com/topic/816

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/335ufoh.html

Ms Suzanne
10-17-2007, 12:38 PM
Hi
If anyone knows more on her or what happened please let me know.

suzanne

SieSie
10-20-2007, 08:52 PM
Good luck with your search, suzanne. Been thinking about you a lot lately. :blowkiss:

Ms Suzanne
09-25-2008, 09:39 PM
http://www.myspace.com/jd87toledoohio

Kat
08-16-2010, 12:47 PM
Was this info submitted and ruled out? TIA.

Cindy has been missing 24 years today. Should I start a thread for her in the missing but not forgotten 1980's subforum? TIA.

Remembering Cindy's family and prayers for them.

CarlK90245
08-16-2010, 01:24 PM
She is not listed in the UID's NamUs page.

https://identifyus.org/cases/4778

There's a pretty good match-up on physical descriptors. Her weight is slightly high to be described as "slender build", but not that far off.

The resemblance is not too bad, although Jane Doe appears to have more prominent cheekbones.

The circumstances seem a little off. Sure, she could have traveled from New York to Toledo to engage in a cocaine binge. And the 2006 suspect who confessed to her murder (along with the murder of another woman) could have been lying. LE considered his info to be credible, but false confessions do occur.

And the tattoo on her arm may have been destroyed when the body was set afire.

Nothing here to rule-her out, but enough minor-inconsistencies to say it's probably not her. If I was in charge of the case, I would check it out, but I don't think there's enough there to call it in.

Donjeta
02-12-2011, 03:17 PM
The UID has a long list of ruleouts but Becky Minish is not one of them.
https://identifyus.org/cases/4778

I imagine it is very hard to rule her out or in on the basis of the available information since there is very little that is known about her unless they have lots that is not available publicly.
Namus does not even have the eye color or height, let alone dentals or DNA.
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/703/0/

Donjeta
03-01-2011, 06:40 PM
https://identifyus.org/cases/4778

There is a long list of ruleouts

reasypeasy
03-02-2011, 06:58 AM
Doenetwork says 5 pearl earrings in each ear? That's a lot of pearl earrings. People with that many ear piercings tend to end up wearing earrings made of tougher material than pearls, so they can shower/use hair products/apply makeup with them in and not have to worry about them becoming dull/stained/worn out/suffering deterioration of a glued setting.

So she was wearing a high maintenance jewellery choice. For a one off event? A personal style committment? Or was she a whimsical young girl down the lower end of that age range and had just not worked out yet what a hassle 5 pearl earrings in each ear could be?

carbuff
03-02-2011, 12:45 PM
Doenetwork says 5 pearl earrings in each ear? That's a lot of pearl earrings. People with that many ear piercings tend to end up wearing earrings made of tougher material than pearls, so they can shower/use hair products/apply makeup with them in and not have to worry about them becoming dull/stained/worn out/suffering deterioration of a glued setting.

So she was wearing a high maintenance jewellery choice. For a one off event? A personal style committment? Or was she a whimsical young girl down the lower end of that age range and had just not worked out yet what a hassle 5 pearl earrings in each ear could be?

The reconstruction in NAMUS shows 6, I think. Five in the lobe and one through the cartilige.

I'd be inclined to the latter explanation. At her age, a person's often willing to put up with a lot of hassle for a personal or fashion statement. Pearl studs are also commonly used as starter earrings, so it could be that the piercings were fairly recent.

rcoope23
03-02-2011, 11:48 PM
One possible that isn't mentioned in the rule out list.

Alexis Christina Owens
Missing since April 15, 1987 from Port Orchard, Kitsap County, Washington
Classification: Endangered Missing



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Vital Statistics
•Date Of Birth: March 9, 1971
•Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 years old
•Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2" (157 cm); 120-150 lbs (68 kg).
•Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Dark blonde hair; blue/green eyes.
•Marks, Scars: She has a mole on her right cheek
•AKA: Kris, Chris, Chrissy Owens, Amy Owens, Sherry Ann Mc Gallion
•Dentals: Not available
•DNA: in CODIS



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Circumstances of Disappearance
Owens was last seen in Port Orchard, Washington on April 15, 1987.
At time of her disappearance she has been arrested in California under the names of Alexis Christina Owens, Amy Owens and Sherry Ann Mc Gallion.
Alexis was last seen in 1987 by her sister.

www.doenetwork.org/cases/2389dfwa.html

sls314
04-04-2011, 11:30 PM
The UID has a long list of ruleouts but Becky Minish is not one of them.
https://identifyus.org/cases/4778

I imagine it is very hard to rule her out or in on the basis of the available information since there is very little that is known about her unless they have lots that is not available publicly.
Namus does not even have the eye color or height, let alone dentals or DNA.
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/703/0/


I live in the Toledo area. There are several Google news archive articles from the Toledo Blade about the deceased. I'll try to retrieve some of them and post links here.

The location where she was found is close to I-75, but its not really close or convenient to an exit and entrance ramp. Its also in the middle of an urban area. I don't believe its a likely spot for someone traveling along I-75 to exit the highway, dump a body, and then hop back on the highway again.

sls314
04-04-2011, 11:33 PM
According to the Toledo Blade article dated 6/19/87, the autopsy revealed acute cocaine intoxication as the actual cause of death. Its possible that the UID was dead for as long as 2 days before her body was burned.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ZVBPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6wIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2692,359281&dq=collingwood+body&hl=en

sls314
04-04-2011, 11:59 PM
Just wanted to update this case with links from some Toledo Blade news archive stories:

6/17/1987 article from the Toledo Blade - cocaine intoxication was likely cause of death, UID could have been dead for 2 days before her body was set on fire

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ZVBPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6wIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2692,359281&dq=collingwood+body&hl=en

another 6/17/1987 article from Toledo Blade - discusses in more detail the location where body was found

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=pUBPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5gIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3753,6511859&dq=collingwood+body&hl=en


6/20/1987 article from the Toledo Blade - info about the search to identify the deceased

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ZlBPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6wIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5098,568537&dq=collingwood+body&hl=en

sls314
04-05-2011, 12:07 AM
Does anyone know or can find out the name of the Auto body shop it use to be?

According to Lucas County real estate records, the property at 3434 Collingwood has been owned by The Muffler King since 1970.

From a Google search of the address, it appears they are currently doing business as The Tire Doctor. (I work near that area, so I can easily take a drive by sometime to confirm.)

I do not know what name they were doing business under in 1987, but one way or the other the property has been continuously owned by The Muffler King since 1970.

webrocket
04-05-2011, 07:15 AM
I just don't see this as a match between this UID and Becky Minish notwithstanding the resemblance of the faces.

I cannot envision a scenario where someone basically violently forces a young woman out of her car in Georgia in March 1987 (Becky) is kept not only alive but given cocaine in sufficient quantities to cause her death in June (UID) in Toledo Ohio.

reasypeasy
11-24-2011, 03:24 AM
Kimberly Ann Moreau, missing since May 86 ?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/374dfme.html


Age good, height good, timing OK, resemblance not great but acceptable, not on the list of Namus ruleouts. Scar and fractures could have been missed due to charring, depending on where the fractures and charirng happened. Bit of a distance, but given the time involved not a problem if she had run away, possibly to be with someone who offered a life of partying.

Ms Suzanne
11-24-2011, 09:56 AM
Kimberly Ann Moreau, missing since May 86 ?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/374dfme.html


Age good, height good, timing OK, resemblance not great but acceptable, not on the list of Namus ruleouts. Scar and fractures could have been missed due to charring, depending on where the fractures and charirng happened. Bit of a distance, but given the time involved not a problem if she had run away, possibly to be with someone who offered a life of partying.
I think you have a very good match there.

Kimster
11-24-2011, 12:11 PM
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/50014/2499276970045078242S200x200Q85.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/KMoreau4.jpg
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/374dfme.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/335ufoh.html

CarlK90245
11-24-2011, 01:51 PM
She does look amazingly similar to Kim Moreau. But if you look very closely at their teeth, you can see some differences:

Their upper-left-canines (#11) have different position and shape.

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q697/Carlkopp90245/Side-By-Side%20Comparisons/2582829300045078242S600x600Q851_zps55ab5a56.jpg

Cymro
11-24-2011, 06:29 PM
Vicki Sundgaard crossed my mind. She's a little outside the age range and quite a distance away, but the timing is good and there's a reasonable resemblance on the physicals and the extensive dental work is promising. What seems to clinch it as a non-match is Vicki's avoidance of earrings due to metal sensitivity, whereas this Doe had multiple earrings.

traacker13
11-24-2011, 07:06 PM
How about Amanda Lee Fravel?

She's not listed as a rule-out and her front teeth seem to have a similar shape as the UID's

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2491dfnv.html

Her stats are also in line with the UID's.

q64ceo
11-24-2011, 11:21 PM
She does look amazingly similar to Kim Moreau. But if you look very closely at their teeth, you can see some differences:

Their upper-left-canines (#11) have different position and shape.

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q697/Carlkopp90245/Side-By-Side%20Comparisons/2582829300045078242S600x600Q851_zps55ab5a56.jpg

I am 100% sure that it is not her.

From what I have read on other sites they have a pretty good idea that she was killed the same day she disappeared. They already have suspects and possible motive.

I won't share the possible motive on this site as it is mostly based upon rumor.

Ms Suzanne
11-25-2011, 11:29 AM
When I was looking into this Jane Doe a few years back as a possible match to my sister.I think I emailed them with this match with Tavia Elizebeth Bailey.But they say her DNA is in CODIS.So I don't know.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bailey_tavia.html

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/748dffl.html

Sleuthnewbie
11-25-2011, 02:33 PM
Given a few cases we have seen in the past month or so, ruling out Kim on dentals may be hasty (Peggy Sue Houser comes to mind immediately). Both Kim & the UID have DNA available. Kim had a lot of piercings as well.

At the very least, she'd be rule out #35 for the UID.

reasypeasy
11-26-2011, 05:10 AM
I see what you mean about the tooth being pointed. From the way the curve that forms the point looks it is almost as if the tooth has been rotated and we are getting a side on view of the incisor... of course this couldn't be the case unless it happened some time after whoever did the dental description described her as having a perfectly aligned set of front teeth. It would have to be an artefact of the reconstruction process, very unlikely but not impossible.

CarlK90245
02-26-2012, 04:55 PM
How 'bout this one! - Just added today to Charley Project

Tammy Daniel
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/daniel_tammy.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/daniel_tammy2.jpghttp://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/48171/2300144530045078242S200x200Q85.jpg

Missing two weeks before Jane Doe was found.

She is a little older than the age estimate, and she has no listed height.

But the teeth look very similar, and the facial shape is spot-on.

CarlK90245
02-26-2012, 05:43 PM
Here's an article detailing the circumstances of Tammy's disappearance:

http://www.wvnstv.com/story/16986335/authorities-look-for-new-leads-decades-after-disappearance-of-raleigh-county-woman

ETA: I left a message with the Raleigh County (WV) Sheriff's Department.

distracted 1976
02-26-2012, 06:30 PM
How 'bout this one! - Just added today to Charley Project

Tammy Daniel
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/daniel_tammy.html

http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/48326/2065485330045078242S600x600Q85.jpghttp://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/42152/2499276970045078242S600x600Q85.jpg

Missing two weeks before Jane Doe was found.

She is a little older than the age estimate, and she has no listed height.

But the teeth look very similar, and the facial shape is spot-on.

Looks about right to my untrained eye!

CarlK90245
02-27-2012, 02:13 PM
I spoke on the telephone this morning with Sgt. Lary Lilly of the Raleigh County WV Sheriff's Office, and James Patrick of the Lucas County OH Coroner.

Sgt. Lilly was quite interested in the info and said that he would look into it. He says that he as looked into quite a few UID cases, but doesn't specifically recall this one.

During my discussion with James Patrick he made a comment that he recalls that they had a "putative match" on this Jane Doe, but the girl's family was uncooperative and they couldn't verify whether or not the girl was a match to this Jane Doe. He didn't recall the specifics, but said that if he could find the details, he would let me know.

chaddylex
02-28-2012, 11:48 AM
Wonder if Tammy's family would remember if she had her ears pierced 5 times in each ear? The UID was found to be wearing 5 pearl studs in each ear. (just another way maybe if they have a problem getting dentals) maybe a quick rule out?

CarlK90245
02-28-2012, 12:40 PM
I did mention to Sgt. Lilly that the victim had five piercings in each ear, and that may lead him one way or the other in determining whether the Jane Doe is Tammy.

Deeds
02-28-2012, 06:45 PM
Darla Harper
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/harper_darla.html

Kimberley Moreau
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moreau_kimberly.html

Madeline Teresa Ponds
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/ponds_madeline.html

Tavia Elizabeth Bailey
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bailey_tavia.html

Tavia Elizabeth Bailey seems to be in the right range and it mentions that her ears are pierced several times

CarlK90245
02-28-2012, 07:16 PM
Tavia Bailey is in CODIS, as is the UID. So with Tavia, you have a rule-out by default.

Kimberly Moreau's NamUs DNA page says "Sample Submitted Tests Complete", which usually (but not always) means it's in CODIS. But as I illustrated on page 2, her teeth look different from what is depicted in the facial reconstruction.

Madeline Ponds also indicates "Sample Submitted Tests Complete"

traacker13
06-06-2012, 12:08 PM
I know the circumstances would seem to suggest that this is not Diana but something about her eyebrow ridge and bridge of her nose seem consistant with Diana's. Also she fits all the physical stats.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/braungardt_diana.html

carbuff
09-15-2012, 10:38 AM
I know the circumstances would seem to suggest that this is not Diana but something about her eyebrow ridge and bridge of her nose seem consistant with Diana's. Also she fits all the physical stats.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/braungardt_diana.html

The stats are spot on and her disappearance is only a short time before the body was found. The circumstances are not prohibitive -- if she met a boyfriend her family didn't know about, for instance, she might have wound up in a drug scene in another city a few months later.

Roselvr
02-05-2013, 02:25 PM
I was working on Becky Minish's post; ended up here.
Someone should follow up to get the gals on the other page added to the exclusions.

Lucas County, Ohio UP #4778 (https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4778)

35 exclusions -

The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Ellen Akers 1966 Florida
Maria Anjiras 1961 Connecticut
Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
Phyllis Berry 1954 Texas
Debra Cole 1969 Indiana
Cynthia Coon 1956 Michigan
Carol Donn 1963 Florida
Wendy Felton 1971 Indiana
Debra Frost 1967 Utah
Shannon Green 1969 Kentucky
Jamie Grissim 1955 Washington
Clara Grunst 1963 Missouri
Joan Hall 1966 Oregon
Teresa HAMMON 1963 California
Margaret Holst 1958 Nebraska
Rochelle Ihm 1966 Arizona
Rebecca Kellison 1954 Colorado
Kimberly King 1966 Michigan
Lori Lloyd 1961 Ohio
Tammie McCormick 1972 New York
Deborah Meyer 1958 Wyoming
Nancy O'Sullivan 1959 Illinois
Jeanne Overstreet 1963 Arizona
Dean Pyle Peters 1966 Michigan
Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida
Julia Salucka 1967 Missouri
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
Lisa Sexton 1966 Ohio
Lisa Sexton 1966 Ohio
Catherine Sjoberg 1957 Wisconsin
Tracy Snow 1964 Missouri
Belinda VanLith 1957 Minnesota
Emma Vaughn 1967 Florida
Tammie Wilkinson 1965 Missouri
April Zane 1960 Illinois

Angie4b1g
05-29-2013, 07:29 AM
How about this girl: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/ludwig_annabelle.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/images/l/ludwig_annabelle6.jpg

It's a few years (both age and DLC) and pounds off, and a different part of Ohio (eta: 90 minutes straight up I-75), but she was fairly transient. The broken wrist seems like it would have been mentioned, though.