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reb
10-16-2007, 03:19 AM
For all those who gave up checking the latest link days ago... guess what,, THEY GOT HIM!!!

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14347969/detail.html

BREAKING NEWS: Stiles Caught By Henderson Police

Man Apprehended During Routine Traffic Stop

SadieMae
10-16-2007, 03:26 AM
OMG!!!! That POS is in custody!!! There's gonna be some REAL happy folks here in the a.m.!

dkitty
10-16-2007, 03:30 AM
He should be very popular in jail..:clap: :clap: :clap:

Al_B
10-16-2007, 03:35 AM
except he is in isolation

KatK
10-16-2007, 03:47 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Now, LOCK HIM UP FOR GOOD!!! :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar :behindbar

CaliKid
10-16-2007, 03:54 AM
And he confessed!

Not that they needed him to. The evidence is on tape.

Praise God!

KatK
10-16-2007, 03:59 AM
And he confessed!

Not that they needed him to. The evidence is on tape.

Praise God!


Got a link to an article that says that? The article in the first post of this topic just says he admitted he was CAS. C'mon, give me more reason to celebrate! (Course, he could recant and make them try him anyway. *crosses fingers*)

Al_B
10-16-2007, 04:04 AM
http://www.fox5vegas.com/index.html

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 04:04 AM
Got a link to an article that says that? The article in the first post of this topic just says he admitted he was CAS. C'mon, give me more reason to celebrate! (Course, he could recant and make them try him anyway. *crosses fingers*)
http://www.fox5vegas.com/index.html Watch the video! He does confess according to the reporter.

Al_B
10-16-2007, 04:06 AM
anyone know how to fund out what cars Tina owns?

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 04:15 AM
anyone know how to fund out what cars Tina owns?The information is private and only accessible to the Department of Motor Vehicles in Nevada and LE.

Al_B
10-16-2007, 04:18 AM
darn.

KatK
10-16-2007, 04:19 AM
Any link to the presser? Did I miss it? They said the were going to have a "live" presser on the video?

Cubby
10-16-2007, 04:32 AM
He should be very popular in jail..:clap: :clap: :clap:


about as popular as Dhamer was back in the day, and day'em.... I still saw those ears sticking out of that long hair.

:woohoo:

Good job LE....

Though some good old back alley head busting would be a nice new meaning to a red October..... though who knows what Sunday might bring....

Just Jules
10-16-2007, 04:41 AM
This is FANTASTIC news. :woohoo:

Going to read the links... Thanks guys :blowkiss:

Gina_M
10-16-2007, 05:44 AM
Yes!!! It's about time :dance: :clap: :woohoo:

strach304
10-16-2007, 05:56 AM
Just saw it on the AOL front page! :woohoo:

DebC
10-16-2007, 05:56 AM
Fantastic! Well done LE

blaize
10-16-2007, 06:01 AM
Thank you God.

DawnTCB
10-16-2007, 06:48 AM
This is the best news I could have heard this morning! I am saying a prayer of thankfulness this morning!

Indiana at Heart
10-16-2007, 06:52 AM
YEAH I'm SO HAPPY!!!! MADE MY DAY!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

KatK
10-16-2007, 06:54 AM
This (http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/14347969/detail.html) story has a more recent news video.

believe09
10-16-2007, 07:29 AM
Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap:

LMax
10-16-2007, 07:37 AM
I just saw it on CNN with his longer hair!

Indiana at Heart
10-16-2007, 07:44 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

366



YEAH You can run but your can not hide!

MagicRose99
10-16-2007, 07:50 AM
It was only a matter of time... I'm glad they picked up this POS and that little girl can have her justice now.

angelmom
10-16-2007, 07:55 AM
Wahoo!!!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Thank God! Thank you to all the LE who have been working night and day to find him! Thank you to everyone who sleuthed to figure out who he is!

Prayers for that little girl and any other victims of his who might be out there somewhere.

CarpeDiem
10-16-2007, 08:09 AM
So relieved for the victims he will never be out again.

Another girlfriend was just on GMA, "Elaine", she said she was surprised at the charges because Stiles "was into older, heavy-set women", like herself. His truck has been parked at her house all this time, the city finally towed it away last week. She's been in touch with LE and the FBI since day one but didn't come forward to the media until now.

swanniee11
10-16-2007, 08:26 AM
:behindbar ENJOY POS!

Beffie
10-16-2007, 08:28 AM
This is the greatest news. :D

LMBO how he just surrendered, I thought he would never be taken alive. Big bad navy seal survivalist was tired of running. :dance:

I have a feeling this is going to get interesting and he is going to sing like a canary. I hope Tina learned some of Chets survival skills she might need them. :crazy:

angarella
10-16-2007, 08:28 AM
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Taximom
10-16-2007, 08:34 AM
He had to cover those ears with all that hair!

Let's see you smile for the camera now, Chet.

:woohoo: :woohoo:

Thanks for the thread, reb. :blowkiss:

CarpeDiem
10-16-2007, 08:36 AM
I have a feeling this is going to get interesting and he is going to sing like a canary. I hope Tina learned some of Chets survival skills she might need them. :crazy:

I hope he keeps talking, but things will look a lot different to him today, especially after the attorney's get involved. I'm interested in what he has to say about Tuck whom said he "found the tape".

STEADFAST
10-16-2007, 08:46 AM
Oh, happy day! What wonderful news to wake up to!

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 09:03 AM
I heard it on the news this morning when I was getting ready for work. If I hadn't been so sleepy I would have done back flips (and I don't even know how to do back flips).

Happy happy, joy, joy.

:woohoo:

Beffie
10-16-2007, 09:12 AM
I am an animal lover and I am worried about the dog he was with. Could it of been a lie from Tina? I looked at his booking photo and I think it looks exactly like the other pictures, just looks like there is a mop on his head..real GQish Tina......:liar:

I know the dog shouldn't be the focus, but if she is indeed pregnant..where is she? :(

teonspaleprincess
10-16-2007, 09:20 AM
What glorious news to wake up to!!!!!! Thank you Lord for letting him get caught!! Yessss!!!:dance:

Mysticchic
10-16-2007, 09:21 AM
Great news..now let him fry!

Indy Gal
10-16-2007, 09:28 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 09:29 AM
I am an animal lover and I am worried about the dog he was with. Could it of been a lie from Tina? I looked at his booking photo and I think it looks exactly like the other pictures, just looks like there is a mop on his head..real GQish Tina......:liar:

I know the dog shouldn't be the focus, but if she is indeed pregnant..where is she? :(

Beffie, I'm an animal lover too so I'm hoping he left the dog with the same ex-gf he left his truck with. Someone was helping him. He had to have a place to stay, somewhere to eat so hopefully that same person is taking care of the dog.

mom3dd
10-16-2007, 09:30 AM
PBG Now lets just hope it goes smoothly and no loop holes found I am praying for a Public Defender. No disrespect just they are sterotyped as younger less experienced. It will truly be my last straw if this POS does not get life.

cheko1
10-16-2007, 09:34 AM
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you, Thank You, Thank You!!!!!

I almost choked to death on my coffee, when I heard it on TV!!!!

blue_the_puppy
10-16-2007, 09:37 AM
:dance::woohoo::dance::woohoo::dance::woohoo::danc e::woohoo::dance::woohoo::dance::woohoo::dance::wo ohoo::dance::woohoo::dance::woohoo::dance::woohoo:

Jeana (DP)
10-16-2007, 09:38 AM
The first thing they showed on the Today Show was his mugshot and I jumped off the couch so fast I almost knocked my O.J. over!!! I knew ya'll would be thrilled, as am I!!!:woohoo:

ceeaura
10-16-2007, 09:38 AM
Yes!yes!yes!:woohoo: :woohoo: I am so happy that he is in custody and now justice can be served!

:laugh: Bahahaha said he was tired of running....yea hes a big bad survivor man.

dee10134
10-16-2007, 09:44 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they put his ass away for LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

catsmeow
10-16-2007, 09:46 AM
THIS NEWS HAS MADE MY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK THE LORD!
May justice be served and I pray that this little girl that suffered such attrocious and disgusting acts at the hands of this man be able to heal with time. She has a long road ahead of her and I hope that she is surrounded by kind and loving people that will nurture her and love her so that she is able to do so.

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 09:46 AM
I almost wish he had resisted a little. Then maybe this mugshot would have a nice scrape on his face like the other one did.

:angel:

Gina_M
10-16-2007, 09:48 AM
Yes!yes!yes!:woohoo: :woohoo: I am so happy that he is in custody and now justice can be served!

:laugh: Bahahaha said he was tired of running....yea hes a big bad survivor man.

Yeah, so much for roughing it out in the wilderness and all that crap...he was probably sleeping in his car ;)

Indy Gal
10-16-2007, 09:50 AM
Fry chet fry!!!!!! Sorry this really just made my day! Lets hope for G pop so hopefully there wont even be a trial! Let the people in the prison handle his sorry ass!!!!!!!! i dont condone death of another person in any way, although I am thinking of making an exception today......

Samiya
10-16-2007, 09:50 AM
YIPPPPEEEEE :)

Sami

Reannan
10-16-2007, 09:53 AM
Can we get an Amen and a He!! Yea!!!! I am SO happy! Isn't it wonderful? Sometimes, the good guys really do win. Now, let's just see him put away for ever. I also want to see anyone who has helped this creep brought to justice. Where is Tina by the way? A bit surprised she hasn't surfaced yet. When was the last time we heard from her???

cheko1
10-16-2007, 09:54 AM
Fry chet fry!!!!!! Sorry this really just made my day! Lets hope for G pop so hopefully there wont even be a trial! Let the people in the prison handle his sorry ass!!!!!!!! i dont condone death of another person in any way, although I am thinking of making an exception today......

Indy your being to kind......he deserves everything he gets in whatever fashion anyone wants to dose out to him.

I wonder how long it'll be before Tina is back on TV condemning the new girlfriend.

concernedperson
10-16-2007, 09:55 AM
Just adding another link for those just logging in. So, glad he was caught.


http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/10/16/SexTape_Suspect.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

christine2448
10-16-2007, 10:00 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

christine2448
10-16-2007, 10:04 AM
The information is private and only accessible to the Department of Motor Vehicles in Nevada and LE.

Not really ;)

What is her full name again?

LMax
10-16-2007, 10:05 AM
Finally, they changed it to captured... so nice to see those words.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/alert/stiles_ca.htm

dee10134
10-16-2007, 10:05 AM
Chester Stiles told police he was "tired of running."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_re_us/sex_tape_suspect

dee10134
10-16-2007, 10:06 AM
Not really ;)

What is her full name again?

Tina Lee Allen, I believe.

Check into Elaine Thomas too. She's another girlfriend that claims Chester left his truck at her house. Maybe it's HER vehicle...

christine2448
10-16-2007, 10:10 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

366



YEAH You can run but your can not hide!

Did SieSie do one like this LMAO???

Let's do a side by side.

I am just giddy y'all. Seriously. I am on vacation. Son has testing (he's homeschooled)...I have not been 'working' for a few days and I heard this knews..I can't get rid of the goosebumps. Thank God in heaven he can not hurt another child right now...they need to kill him. I hate it, but it's true. DP for child molesters! 1 strike yer oooooooouuuuuuuuutttt! He confessed, he did it...kill him.

christine2448
10-16-2007, 10:17 AM
Are they both in Nevada?

FormerRichmondRes
10-16-2007, 10:17 AM
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Vegas Bride
10-16-2007, 10:17 AM
So relieved for the victims he will never be out again.

Another girlfriend was just on GMA, "Elaine", she said she was surprised at the charges because Stiles "was into older, heavy-set women", like herself. His truck has been parked at her house all this time, the city finally towed it away last week. She's been in touch with LE and the FBI since day one but didn't come forward to the media until now.

My thought on this is that he would be into the older women because they had little children! Just like so many other pedo, they have to go after the women first before they can have access to their real prey.

It would be wonderful if they did not have him in isolation but I don't think that will happen :( there really is a strong code with inmates for crimes like this, I work at a jail and the pervs are hated by the others.

VB

Tranaice
10-16-2007, 10:18 AM
Thank God! Now they need to put him in General Population and let the others have at him!!!!

christine2448
10-16-2007, 10:24 AM
Georgia’s law sets the standard for death row rapists of children under 10. The Texas legislature passed a law earlier this year that would allow death for criminal convicted of multiple rapes of children under 14.

What other states have this? I did not know about this!

The federal government and 16 states allowed death for rape prior to the U.S. Supreme Court suspending the death penalty in 1972. Since 1930, 455 men were executed for rape in the United States, all but two in the South.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/10291622.html


ETA...another interesting article
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,280413,00.html

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 10:24 AM
Just getting online now, so I'm not caught up, but I wanted to say http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Shamrock333/appl.gif!!!!!!!!!!!! This made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woohoo: :woohoo:

Rot in jail, you POS! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Shamrock333/char039.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Shamrock333/happy075.gif

cheko1
10-16-2007, 10:26 AM
I hope the officer that pulled him over gets a good promotion!

Mygirlsadie
10-16-2007, 10:31 AM
lmao..I thought the same thing. I bet Tina is boiling inside due to the other girlfriend. She will probably make a statement how he might of been with this other but he always came back to her! Ok back to the topic! Websleuths Most Wanted has been caught! YESSSS!!




Indy your being to kind......he deserves everything he gets in whatever fashion anyone wants to dose out to him.

I wonder how long it'll be before Tina is back on TV condemning the new girlfriend.

Al_B
10-16-2007, 10:39 AM
does Nevada have a 3 strikes law by any chance just to be on the all the way around side
(shouldn't he have more facial hair for living in his car for so long I figured he would have more growth then just the peach fuzz on his upper lip)

cheko1
10-16-2007, 10:43 AM
I think your right Sadie!!!! :sick: :sick: :sick:

lmao..I thought the same thing. I bet Tina is boiling inside due to the other girlfriend. She will probably make a statement how he might of been with this other but he always came back to her! Ok back to the topic! Websleuths Most Wanted has been caught! YESSSS!!

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 10:45 AM
I heard on our local news cast that during the arrest (or the ride to the jail, not sure which), Stiles was so nervous that he threw up. But I haven't read that in any of the articles I've seen. I hope it's true - it makes me laugh.

Al_B
10-16-2007, 10:46 AM
I heard on our local news cast that during the arrest (or the ride to the jail, not sure which), Stiles was so nervous that he threw up. But I haven't read that in any of the articles I've seen. I hope it's true - it makes me laugh.
it was both I thought they said

j2mirish
10-16-2007, 10:55 AM
Amen--
At first I was disappointed he wasnt just shot and killed while resisting-but now I am excited he might just be scared $hitless , out of his mind and that is a good feeling too--- I hope & pray he is about to go nuts, just out of fear-then has years to deal with prison while awaitng a dp sentence-

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 11:01 AM
OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!

I didn't hear that CAS confessed though, just that he admitted he was the person they were looking for..does someone have a link that includes the confession info?

Also the very lastest pic SieSie did looks remarkedly like him..great job SieSie.

I am not surprised he went meekly with the cops..he's only a big brave man when he's hurting innocent children and women. Survivialist my butt...he's been living somewhere.

My biggest hope is that he sings like a canary and rolls over on everyone involved..and from the way he was arrested I think that he will be more then willing to name names!

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 11:04 AM
I heard on our local news cast that during the arrest (or the ride to the jail, not sure which), Stiles was so nervous that he threw up. But I haven't read that in any of the articles I've seen. I hope it's true - it makes me laugh.

:clap:

Good, now I want video of him crying.

MagicRose99
10-16-2007, 11:08 AM
Chester Stiles told police he was "tired of running."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_re_us/sex_tape_suspect

Probably because there was no place to run to! :laugh:

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 11:41 AM
I give Elaine Thomas alot of credit for coming forward so early, Set 26th her attorney said. She had her attorney talk to FEDs at that time and she id'd him from the second set of pics. Kinda makes The Talking Tina Show look even worse. Wonder what info will be relaesed on Tina's involvement?

Also what about Tuck and the burlagry ring..I don't think we've heard the last on that either.

So he's tired of running... he is really gonna be tried after Vega LE, the Feds and Nye County Sheriffs office get through with him! He's gonna crack wide open and spill everything he knows...he's not one to go down alone. And all 3 of these have questions and charges for him. Tuck, Tina get ready to spill your guts before he does. Tina..how do you look in orange and white stripes?

Jaded
10-16-2007, 11:47 AM
Remember the dominatrix we found that was a friend of Tina's *bellespleasure.com*? I looked up Elaine Thomas on myspace who is CAS ex-girlfriend.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=47904297

Look like this Elaine is "belle" the dominatrix.

Search query for Elaine Thomas within 50 miles of Las Vegas
http://searchresults.myspace.com/index.cfm?Mytoken=0523B442-CA65-40D1-9A38F518753A51D661158323&fuseaction=find&circuitaction=search&searchType=ALL&f_first_name=Elaine&f_display_name=&f_Last_name=Thomas&InterestType=&f_email=&f_search_criteria=Elaine+Thomas&page=0&GradYear=0&StartYear=0&EndYear=0&Country=US&distance=50&Postal=89110&first=No

arielilane
10-16-2007, 11:50 AM
Kick his azz!!!:woohoo:

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 11:51 AM
Remember the dominatrix we found that was a friend of Tina's *bellespleasure.com*? I looked up Elaine Thomas on myspace who is CAS ex-girlfriend.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=47904297

Look like this Elaine is "belle" the dominatrix.

Search query for Elaine Thomas within 50 miles of Las Vegas
http://searchresults.myspace.com/index.cfm?Mytoken=0523B442-CA65-40D1-9A38F518753A51D661158323&fuseaction=find&circuitaction=search&searchType=ALL&f_first_name=Elaine&f_display_name=&f_Last_name=Thomas&InterestType=&f_email=&f_search_criteria=Elaine+Thomas&page=0&GradYear=0&StartYear=0&EndYear=0&Country=US&distance=50&Postal=89110&first=No


JADED,
WHEN I SAW HER TODAY ON GMA I KEPT THINKING SHE LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE BELLE. SO THAT IS WHERE HE LEFT HIS TRUCK..I THOUGHT FROM THE BEGINNING THAT IS WHERE HE WOULD LEAVE THE DOG TOO. SHE HAS PICS OF HER DOGS ON HER MYSPACE. SO I BET SHE IS TAKING CARE OF THE DOG FOR HIM OR HE SOLD IT TO HER.

MelInTN
10-16-2007, 11:53 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: Thank God they caught him. I can't wait to see what comes of this..what information comes out.

arielilane
10-16-2007, 11:54 AM
Chester Stiles told police he was "tired of running."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_re_us/sex_tape_suspect
Yeah am sure his ears weighed him down quite a bit. lol

Good job LE!

cheko1
10-16-2007, 11:54 AM
I heard on our local news cast that during the arrest (or the ride to the jail, not sure which), Stiles was so nervous that he threw up. But I haven't read that in any of the articles I've seen. I hope it's true - it makes me laugh.


Fox News reported it / they said he hadn't showered or shaved either. Geez he must of been a real winner to take to jail, the sleeze ball.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 11:57 AM
Can Anyone Provide More Updated Links On The Local News, Please ?

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 12:00 PM
Yeah am sure his ears weighed him down quite a bit. lol

Good job LE!

HA!! He must be exhausted having to drag those things around!!

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 12:05 PM
We have Fox news on our local radio station (WNIS) and I thought I heard them say that Stiles car was full of boxes and the word "sorry" was written on the glass...from the inside. Has anyone else heard anything like this?

Beffie
10-16-2007, 12:11 PM
We have Fox news on our local radio station (WNIS) and I thought I heard them say that Stiles car was full of boxes and the word "sorry" was written on the glass...from the inside. Has anyone else heard anything like this?


Goodness I am still waiting for that tough navy seal to surface the big tough family man that Tina kept raving about. He sounds like the only way he was a big tough man was with helpless little babies. Oh Chet....you are not going to like prison too much. :behindbar

The thought he isn't going to be caught without a struggle. He was a navy seal so he can survive in the wilderness for as long as he has to. Either Tina is the stupidest woman to ever walk the Earth or is lying through her teeth....maybe both. :mad:

Edited to add the only reason he is sorry is because he was caught, and he knows it is time to pay the piper....or Bubba. ;)

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 12:12 PM
Can Anyone Provide More Updated Links On The Local News, Please ?

Delta, We all started discussing this last night http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54535&page=9
and the best sources for news are found in our postings.

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 12:13 PM
I haven't been able to find anything online to confirm it's true but I'm still looking and waiting for the update on the radio to make sure that's what I heard.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 12:24 PM
I haven't been able to find anything online to confirm it's true but I'm still looking and waiting for the update on the radio to make sure that's what I heard.

lizzy, go back and read the thread that was closed. He indeed was caught last night around 7:00 pm as per the video news. Here is the link that has a couple of the videos

http://www.fox5vegas.com/index.html

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 12:27 PM
Thanks Tom'sGirl but I meant that I hadn't found anything to confirm that the car was full of boxes and sorry was written on the window from the inside.

Is that in thread you were talking about?

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 12:29 PM
Thanks Tom'sGirl but I meant that I hadn't found anything to confirm that the car was full of boxes and sorry was written on the window from the inside.

Is that in thread you were talking about?

It shows the mess inside the vehicle, but didn't see, or did they mention what you heard about anaything written on the window.

MissieMt
10-16-2007, 12:31 PM
Praise God!! I have been so involved with personal issues that I stopped reading the Stiles thread. I am so happy for every angel he has ever victimized, and I hope that they can soon get some type of closure.

phenolred
10-16-2007, 12:31 PM
http://i20.tinypic.com/34r9ieh.jpghttp://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/10/16/rape.tape/art.stiles.mug.ap.jpg

phenolred
10-16-2007, 12:33 PM
Great job on the long hair, it looks just like his actual new mug shot!!!! Ding Dong Chester the Molester is caught.... There was one sombody did with spiked hair and he looked like Kato Kalin to me LOL!!!

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 12:35 PM
THAT'S WHO IT WAS! I kept thinking his face looked familiar (not from my personal life but one I had seen before). He does look like Kato Kalin around the mouth and nose.

phenolred
10-16-2007, 12:35 PM
Have they said WHERE he was hiding? In the car? This whole time? He was just asking to be caught driving around with no plate on the car. hE WAS just too much of a coward to turn himself in by going to the police himself. So he drove around just hoping to be pulled over

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 12:37 PM
Great job on the long hair, it looks just like his actual new mug shot!!!! Ding Dong Chester the Molester is caught.... There was one sombody did with spiked hair and he looked like Kato Kalin to me LOL!!!

That's a photo of what the LE put out, not ours phenolred.

christine2448
10-16-2007, 12:39 PM
-------- Original Message --------From: "David Boruchowitz" <dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us>Date: Tue, October 16, 2007 9:10 amTo: <christine@lightingthewayhome.org>

No DP for child rape, but hopefully he will spend the rest of his life in jail for the protection of society.

Thanks.David

Detective David E. BoruchowitzNye County Sheriff's Office1520 E. Basin AvePahrump, Nevada 89060dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us-----Original Message-----


From: christine@lightingthewayhome.org [mailto:christine@lightingthewayhome.org]Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:34 AMTo: Detective BoruchowitzSubject: Singing Praises that Chester is CAUGHT!


Thank God he is caught!

Does your state have the DP for child rape?? I hope they keep him locked up forever if not!

Thank you and yours for all you do to try and protect us from these kind of people.

Kindest regards,Christine

phenolred
10-16-2007, 12:40 PM
http://www.fsu.edu/~crimdo/images/kato.jpg

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 12:42 PM
HAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! He does look like Kato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

phenolred
10-16-2007, 12:48 PM
Here is the one I thought looked like Kato...I thought that the first time I saw this

http://i22.tinypic.com/350v241.jpghttp://www.fsu.edu/~crimdo/images/kato.jpg

dee10134
10-16-2007, 12:54 PM
Remember the dominatrix we found that was a friend of Tina's *bellespleasure.com*? I looked up Elaine Thomas on myspace who is CAS ex-girlfriend.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=47904297

Look like this Elaine is "belle" the dominatrix.

Search query for Elaine Thomas within 50 miles of Las Vegas
http://searchresults.myspace.com/index.cfm?Mytoken=0523B442-CA65-40D1-9A38F518753A51D661158323&fuseaction=find&circuitaction=search&searchType=ALL&f_first_name=Elaine&f_display_name=&f_Last_name=Thomas&InterestType=&f_email=&f_search_criteria=Elaine+Thomas&page=0&GradYear=0&StartYear=0&EndYear=0&Country=US&distance=50&Postal=89110&first=No


DAMN GREAT JOB!!! I wonder why she was on Tina's friends list if she's supposedly Chet's EX-girlfriend?!?

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 12:58 PM
[quote=phenolred;1742159]Here is the one I thought looked like Kato...I thought that the first time I saw this

Could you start posting the photos on the Photo thread?

We don't want this thread to go into overload on size.

christine2448
10-16-2007, 01:04 PM
Stiles-1974 Olds


Tina-1987 Dodge Ram Van B250-Sport Van

Elaine-2004 Hyundai Elantra & 2005 Hyundai Sonata. (not 100% sure this is her)

What kinda car was he picked up in again??

IrishMist
10-16-2007, 01:06 PM
Thank God! Now they need to put him in General Population and let the others have at him!!!!

This would be my vote as to what they should do with him! :cool:

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 01:09 PM
http://www.fox5vegas.com/index.html

Mentions the players in the case.....i.e.
Tina Allen
Todd Allen
Stephani Allen

SieSie
10-16-2007, 01:11 PM
Wow, do I ever have a lot of catching up to do, but since I know that he's been caught and is now off the streets, it will have to wait until later, I have to get off the computer.

Just wanted to say (even though I'm way late in finding this out) that I was soooooooo glad to hear the news - thank you, SS, for sending me a PM!!! Figures, the one night I go to bed early (before 11:30 p.m.), he gets caught. :doh:

Congratulations to LE for catching this scumbag! :clap:
Good luck to the prosecution, may they find a judge and jury who will sentence him to death, and may all of his victims and their families find peace.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 01:12 PM
Delta, We all started discussing this last night http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54535&page=9
and the best sources for news are found in our postings.


Thank you Tom's Girl...when I got up I just saw the new thread started and started reading there. Thank you for the link.

ISPTRAX
10-16-2007, 01:13 PM
You mean that ISN'T Kato????? :confused:

CarpeDiem
10-16-2007, 01:20 PM
Wow, do I ever have a lot of catching up to do, but since I know that he's been caught and is now off the streets, it will have to wait until later, I have to get off the computer.

Just wanted to say (even though I'm way late in finding this out) that I was soooooooo glad to hear the news - thank you, SS, for sending me a PM!!! Figures, the one night I go to bed early (before 11:30 p.m.), he gets caught. :doh:

Congratulations to LE for catching this scumbag! :clap:
Good luck to the prosecution, may they find a judge and jury who will sentence him to death, and may all of his victims and their families find peace.

Can he be sentenced to death?

I'm glad you had rest.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 01:21 PM
Stiles-1974 Olds


Tina-1987 Dodge Ram Van B250-Sport Van

Elaine-2004 Hyundai Elantra & 2005 Hyundai Sonata. (not 100% sure this is her)


What kinda car was he picked up in again??


White Buick Century

philamena
10-16-2007, 01:21 PM
This news was posted last night on the CAS thread.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 01:23 PM
This news was posted last night on the CAS thread.
Yes it sure was philamena at 9:26 p.m. Then this thread was started at 11:19 p.m.

philamena
10-16-2007, 01:24 PM
Yes it sure was philamena!

Isn't the most wonderful news?!! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 01:25 PM
Can he be sentenced to death?

I'm glad you had rest.

NO, please see Christines post at
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1742140&postcount=99

Lauren
10-16-2007, 01:28 PM
He needs to burn in hell

CarpeDiem
10-16-2007, 01:28 PM
This would be my vote as to what they should do with him! :cool:

It would have been great to be in the room when the chief investigators, those whom have hunted this guy, had to watch this video of the horrible abuse of this three year old, were finally face to face with the scum. :cool:

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 01:29 PM
He needs to burn in hell

He will. I have no doubt about that.

justche
10-16-2007, 01:29 PM
I heard on our local news cast that during the arrest (or the ride to the jail, not sure which), Stiles was so nervous that he threw up. But I haven't read that in any of the articles I've seen. I hope it's true - it makes me laugh.

I'm still catching up - but that he threw up - pretty much cracked me up too - along with the comment along the lines of "if it's a 3 year old on tape you have to run" Ya think?

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 01:33 PM
Are there any details out yet about where Stiles got the car, who was helping him, where he was staying, etc. etc.?

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 01:37 PM
You mean this ISN'T Kato????? :confused:

You're blowing the margins............please remember Jena's request;


keep it short and sweet and do NOT reply to HUGE posts simply to reply to them. Cut them down to a reasonable length.

Thanks.

TGIRecovered
10-16-2007, 02:05 PM
Elaine is on the phone on FOX right now!

TGIRecovered
10-16-2007, 02:07 PM
says he treated her very nicely at fisrt.

Says she contacted FBI thru a friend. She's shocked had no idea...

anchor asked another question but lost phone connection.

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 02:08 PM
Can you give us a synopsis of what she's saying?

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 02:10 PM
Did you hear what Elaine Thompson had to say? Most of the women he dated were older and heavier. LOL

Seriously, the thing that disturbed me about what she said was that some of those he dated had adult children (which means they could be grandmothers).

Cases are going to start coming out of the woodwork now that he is in custody. At least, now we know the old girlfriends are wanting to talk.

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 02:32 PM
I have a feeling Stiles is going to implicate Tina and she should be next on their list of people to arrest in this case. She is being very quiet which tells me she hired a lawyer after she did the LK show. I really don't expect her to be in the media spotlight again...until they arrest her.

It is great that you guys figured out who Elaine really is! Tina's friend, huh?! Either Tina knew or she truly is really stupid!

So Elaine was the person who IDed him. Interesting! Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 02:36 PM
I have a feeling Stiles is going to implicate

The LE stated here on video about who some of the 'players' are

Mentions the players in the case.....i.e.
Tina Allen
Todd Allen
Stephani Allen

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1742187&postcount=107

philamena
10-16-2007, 02:36 PM
I've thought about that too, SS. Tina was the one who wanted to be in front of the cameras from the beginning until something or someone made her stop.(imo)

I have a feeling she's going to be implicated in this case.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 02:45 PM
It makes me question why Elaine came forward tho. If she had nothing to add to the investigation, what was in it for her to do this?

Elaine came forward through her lawyer as the first person to Identify Stiles on the tape. She then spoke with FBI. So besides ID'ing him for LE she may also have given them info that LE didn't release to not compromise the case. And she may have been the one to tell them where they could find Stephani living.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 02:49 PM
Elaine came forward through her lawyer as the first person to Identify Stiles on the tape. She then spoke with FBI. So besides ID'ing him for LE she may also have given them info that LE didn't release to not compromise the case. And she may have been the one to tell them where they could find Stephani living.

If we get a Forum on this case I will post more about where Stephani lives. They have known since the first 'Pressers' in Pahrump where she was.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 02:54 PM
Right Tom's Girl,
When Elaine's lawyer said she came forward ( Sept 26) that was when Pahrump was still handling the case. After speaking with Elaine is when I think they put a name to Stiles and got the info on Stephanie. Is that what you think or did something else go on behind the scenes? Or am I mistaken on that?

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 03:04 PM
The LE stated here on video about who some of the 'players' are

Mentions the players in the case.....i.e.
Tina Allen
Todd Allen
Stephani Allen

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1742187&postcount=107 I went to that site before and again this time...still finding NO mention of "players" in the case.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 03:08 PM
I went to that site before and again this time...still finding NO mention of "players" in the case.


SS,
It is a little further down on the page on the left. It is an interview with news legal consultant .

arielilane
10-16-2007, 03:17 PM
Not that it matters, but I thought he looks a lot like Tommy Lee... a dead ringer ....

SuziQ
10-16-2007, 03:19 PM
SS,
It is a little further down on the page on the left. It is an interview with news legal consultant .

I'm only seeing a site menu?

laura2007
10-16-2007, 03:36 PM
I'm only seeing a site menu?Here is the video link: What's Next for Stiles. (http://www.fox5vegas.com/video/14350967/index.html)
They mention players- the victim's mother, Tina Allen, Todd Allen, Stephani Allen and Darin Tuck will "interplay in this case" if it goes to trial.

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 03:43 PM
Thanks! Found it. I didn't read the title line of your post, Tom'sGirl. LOL Sorry!

If he gives a full confession (which he did confess, imo, when they picked him up), this will hopefully mean it won't go to trial. However, if Tina is charged with accessory or whatever they can get her for...I have no doubt she will fight it and go to trial. This is a double-edged sword for our little Patience.

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 03:48 PM
Patience wouldn't have to testify would she? She was only three and according to LE and her mother she doesn't remember anything about the abuse.

Is that what you meant or are you talking about that more details would come out if it went to trial?

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 03:49 PM
Thanks Delta and Laura, I did post that http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1742187&postcount=107
but I guess some have not read all the posts.

Thanks again!

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 03:52 PM
Patience wouldn't have to testify would she? She was only three and according to LE and her mother she doesn't remember anything about the abuse.

Is that what you meant or are you talking about that more details would come out if it went to trial?No, she wouldn't have to testify...but her story will still be kept in the spotlight and more detailed information would come out during a trial.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 03:55 PM
Right Tom's Girl,
When Elaine's lawyer said she came forward ( Sept 26) that was when Pahrump was still handling the case. After speaking with Elaine is when I think they put a name to Stiles and got the info on Stephanie. Is that what you think or did something else go on behind the scenes? Or am I mistaken on that?
Yes, I think that, and also that address was known as a place of residence for some of the Allen family.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 04:03 PM
To bad Tina probably has an attorney and LE probably put a muzzle on her weeks ago...I'd love to hear her reply to all this new inf. Well Tina, your manly-man threw up twice, gave himself up and looks to be a dirty scuzzball, doesn't bathe or shave and probably has been singing about you in jail. Your phone sex dominatrix friend ID'd him right away, but you never saw his pic on TV. Funny, neither did anyone in your family. And Tina, by the way, if Elaine ID'd ole Chester on the 26th of Sept, she probably gave you as his best gal, is that why you just had to mention on National TV that he knew a domanatrix in Pahrump..too get the heat off you...........what do you have to say for yourself now Miss Tina? If this all looks pretty silly to us right now..think what LE must think about Tina and clan.

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 04:06 PM
hehehe I guess ole' Tina is so relieved that he can't "get to her" anymore. Hahahahah! What garbage! (She probably needs to watch her back for any other mothers and fathers she led Stiles to over the years.)

swa
10-16-2007, 04:06 PM
Is this what they consider "not going down without a fight?"

I'm assuming we will learn later today what white trash girlfriend he was "holding up" with. Hopefully if that's the case -- they will throw her in jail also.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 04:10 PM
You know other then the longer hair, I think CAS looks exactly the same. Tina said he gained weight. But I don't think he gained much because it didn't change the appearance of his face. And if that's a GQ hairdo I'd like to know what GQ Tina's been reading or what she was on when she read it.

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 04:14 PM
You know other then the longer hair, I think CAS looks exactly the same. Tina said he gained weight. But I don't think he gained much because it didn't change the appearance of his face. And if that's a GQ hairdo I'd like to know what GQ Tina's been reading or what she was on when she read it.LOL I agree. I guess she forgot to mention it was the White Trash GQ hairstyle to go along with the molester's mustache he still has. :loser:

Buzzm1
10-16-2007, 04:23 PM
Being that other prisoners are said to hate child molesters the most, let alone a pedophile who sexually abused a little 3 year old girl, I would say, without equivocation, that Chester Stiles may be in for a rough time of it, in prison. One of the arguments against that is that they will place him protective custody, however, even then, I am betting on him being offed in less than two years. Any takers??

ISPTRAX
10-16-2007, 04:25 PM
You know other then the longer hair, I think CAS looks exactly the same. Tina said he gained weight. But I don't think he gained much because it didn't change the appearance of his face. And if that's a GQ hairdo I'd like to know what GQ Tina's been reading or what she was on when she read it.

DD -- what link best sums up what this Tina chick has been saying? I'm at work and can't read all the links! :o

cheko1
10-16-2007, 04:27 PM
Tina is a low rent piece of chit & wonder what hole she will crawl out of? To get her face on the news again.

CAS will be lucky if he makes it a year Buzzm1.....

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 04:30 PM
Tina is a low rent piece of chit & wonder what hole she will crawl out of? To get her face on the news again.

CAS will be lucky if he makes it a year Buzzm1.....
For now he is in isolation as reported in one of the interviews with the LE. If this case goes to trial he will remain guarded unfortunately.

dee10134
10-16-2007, 04:30 PM
VERY interesting article with an interview with Elaine and photos of Chet with the tiger that attacked Roy.

http://sarcasticcrime.com/?p=56

Jaded
10-16-2007, 04:34 PM
DAMN GREAT JOB!!! I wonder why she was on Tina's friends list if she's supposedly Chet's EX-girlfriend?!?

I'm thinking that they have all been intimate, since Chet is said to be into the BDSM lifestyle and Elaine's website and myspace discuss her sexual preferences. It's possible that they were all intimately involved.

Tina has more than likely lawyered up. Where is she rejoicing to the ceiling that the scary ex-boyfriend who still loves her has been apprehended?

SuziQ
10-16-2007, 04:56 PM
VERY interesting article with an interview with Elaine and photos of Chet with the tiger that attacked Roy.

http://sarcasticcrime.com/?p=56

What is it with the yackity yaks Chester hooks up with? Ack, discussing their sex lives? Elaine doesn't like drama, but her profession is a bit dramatic isn't it? And what's with the commune style living? Roomates moving in and out? And someone with a criminal background wants to leave a wrecked truck at YOUR place? It didn't occur to her it could have been involved in a hit and run or something? This whole group is either very stupid, or great at playing stupid when it benefits them. :rolleyes:

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 05:00 PM
VERY interesting article with an interview with Elaine and photos of Chet with the tiger that attacked Roy.

http://sarcasticcrime.com/?p=56

When I read the part about 'M's' mom I wasn't shocked. In fact I have photos of a gathering where 'bull mastiffs' were in the photos. I didn't want to mention it until we had a Forum.

dee10134
10-16-2007, 05:02 PM
When I read the part about 'M's' mom I wasn't shocked. In fact I have photos of a gathering where 'bull mastiffs' were in the photos. I didn't want to mention it until we had a Forum.

Well, it's all out in the open now. With Elaine blabbing her mouth now... At least SHE turned his ass in. Now we know where Tina stands. I bet she helped send him off on the run.

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:03 PM
VERY interesting article with an interview with Elaine and photos of Chet with the tiger that attacked Roy.

http://sarcasticcrime.com/?p=56

Fascinating article, dee. Thanks!

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 05:04 PM
Well, it's all out in the open now. With Elaine blabbing her mouth now... At least SHE turned his ass in. Now we know where Tina stands. I bet she helped send him off on the run.

Yes, and the others all kept their mouth closed also when they could have turned him in.

"Friends in Low Places" is very fitting for their family MySpace page mucic.

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:05 PM
And if that's a GQ hairdo I'd like to know what GQ Tina's been reading or what she was on when she read it.

HAHAHAHAAA!! Maybe it was GQ from 1976????

dee10134
10-16-2007, 05:06 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh:

HAHAHAHAAA!! Maybe it was GQ from 1976????

justche
10-16-2007, 05:09 PM
VERY interesting article with an interview with Elaine and photos of Chet with the tiger that attacked Roy.

http://sarcasticcrime.com/?p=56


From the article - I think there's a typo and say should be saw
..She was calling to tell me that they released Chet’s name that afternoon and she wanted to know if the police had talked to me about him. Tina also said that what kills her the most is that the little girl in the video just say Chet last week and was fine with him. Chet had gone over there to adopt a dog from them. A pregnant Bull Mastiff/Pit Bull mix.

Jaded
10-16-2007, 05:10 PM
Yes, and the others all kept their mouth closed also when they could have turned him in.

"Friends in Low Places" is very fitting for their family MySpace page mucic.

You're not kidding that's an appropriate song.

believe09
10-16-2007, 05:14 PM
Hi, folks-for what it is worth, I did a little checking on the statues surrounding the penalties for sexual assault on a minor in the state of Nevada and here is a brief cut and paste with the link:
"a person who commits a sexual assault against a child under the age of 16 years is guilty of a category A felony and shall be punished: (a) If the crime results in substantial bodily harm to the child, by imprisonment in the state prison for life without the possibility of parole.
(b) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (c), if the crime does not result in substantial bodily harm to the child, by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 20 years has been served.
(c) If the crime is committed against a child under the age of 14 years and does not result in substantial bodily harm to the child, by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 20 years has been served.
4. A person who commits a sexual assault against a child under the age of 16 years and who has been previously convicted of:
(a) A sexual assault pursuant to this section or any other sexual offense against a child; or
(b) An offense committed in another jurisdiction that, if committed in this State, would constitute a sexual assault pursuant to this section or any other sexual offense against a child,
Ê is guilty of a category A felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life without the possibility of parole."



here is the link to the statutes: http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-200.html#NRS200Sec366
:D

KOOL LOOK
10-16-2007, 05:16 PM
When I read the part about 'M's' mom I wasn't shocked. In fact I have photos of a gathering where 'bull mastiffs' were in the photos. I didn't want to mention it until we had a Forum.

Hey Toms'sgirl, been away for two weeks. What about M's mom? I finally just learned her name on the sarcasticcrime article I just read posted by Dee, which was awesome writing and full of information. This case is bigger than we originally thought. I always felt Tina's family, them living all together and no one knowing anything about little M's abuse? I just never could buy it, never.

What's up with the bull mastiffs? Are we allowed to say the mom's name, or are we not doing that either? Been away, so I don't know how far we've progressed in the case and forum. I think this case needs it's own forum for sure, it's going to be big. I also believe it will go to trial real quick, so we won't have a lot of waiting around for justice.

Short and sweet. Thanks in advance, you too Dee, great article.

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 05:18 PM
What is it with the yackity yaks Chester hooks up with? Ack, discussing their sex lives? Elaine doesn't like drama, but her profession is a bit dramatic isn't it? And what's with the commune style living? Roomates moving in and out? And someone with a criminal background wants to leave a wrecked truck at YOUR place? It didn't occur to her it could have been involved in a hit and run or something? This whole group is either very stupid, or great at playing stupid when it benefits them. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, and they're not the only ones, some people live like this. They have friends/family that are criminals. It's not that big a deal to them.

I live in a city that has a lot of areas that is what most people would call white trash. I couldn't believe some of the stories my daughter came home from school with. How so and so's uncle brought a stripper home last night and they were doing drugs in the same house this child lived. I'll never forget the time my daughter and I were driving to the store with a school friend and the little girl looks to the left and says "see that jail, my cousin is in there." Like it was nothing.

dee10134
10-16-2007, 05:18 PM
Hey Toms'sgirl, been away for two weeks. What about M's mom? I finally just learned her name on the sarcasticcrime article I just read posted by Dee, which was awesome writing and full of information. This case is bigger than we originally thought. I always felt Tina's family, them living all together and no one knowing anything about little M's abuse? I just never could buy it, never.

What's up with the bull mastiffs? Are we allowed to say the mom's name, or are we not doing that either? Been away, so I don't know how far we've progressed in the case and forum. I think this case needs it's own forum for sure, it's going to be big. I also believe it will go to trial real quick, so we won't have a lot of waiting around for justice.

Short and sweet. Thanks in advance, you too Dee, great article.

No problem. I actually found it while googling Chester Stiles vomit LOL because i wanted to find the article that said he vomited twice after he was apprehended... LOL

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 05:18 PM
When I read the part about 'M's' mom I wasn't shocked. In fact I have photos of a gathering where 'bull mastiffs' were in the photos. I didn't want to mention it until we had a Forum.Why wouldn't you mention it? I guess I don't understand what difference that would have made? Just curious. Were those photos from their myspace pages?

justche
10-16-2007, 05:24 PM
Hi, folks-for what it is worth, I did a little checking on the statues surrounding the penalties for sexual assault on a minor in the state of Nevada and here is a brief cut and paste with the link:
"a person who commits a sexual assault against a child under the age of 16 years is guilty of a category A felony and shall be punished: (a) If the crime results in substantial bodily harm to the child, by imprisonment in the state prison for life without the possibility of parole.
(b) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (c), if the crime does not result in substantial bodily harm to the child, by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 20 years has been served.
(c) If the crime is committed against a child under the age of 14 years and does not result in substantial bodily harm to the child, by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 20 years has been served.
4. A person who commits a sexual assault against a child under the age of 16 years and who has been previously convicted of:
(a) A sexual assault pursuant to this section or any other sexual offense against a child; or
(b) An offense committed in another jurisdiction that, if committed in this State, would constitute a sexual assault pursuant to this section or any other sexual offense against a child,
Ê is guilty of a category A felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life without the possibility of parole."



here is the link to the statutes: http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-200.html#NRS200Sec366
:D
Rape is rape - and I know it's evil no matter who it's done to - in my perspective - especially because we are hearing about it more and more - I think there ought to be new categories. Lewdness to a minor under 14 - sure "sounds" different than "rape of a 3 year old"

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 05:27 PM
I'd like to see them add "substantial emotional harm" to the statutes. That would include every child that's ever been molested/raped.

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:34 PM
No problem. I actually found it while googling Chester Stiles vomit LOL because i wanted to find the article that said he vomited twice after he was apprehended... LOL

:laugh: :D

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 05:35 PM
I would like to see a phase of punishment which places them in the general population. Why do we protect the most evil of our criminals?! Who cares about their lives after what they have done?! Let them smell and feel the fear like the babies they have raped and ripped apart for eternity. I think it is BS for LE to keep them safe from harm in prison!! How is this serving any form of justice?!

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:35 PM
Why wouldn't you mention it? I guess I don't understand what difference that would have made? Just curious. Were those photos from their myspace pages?

I was wondering that too. I don't understand why having a forum would matter what we talk about and what we don't?? :confused:

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 05:36 PM
From the article - I think there's a typo and say should be saw
Yes, that was a typo!

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:38 PM
I would like to see a phase of punishment which places them in the general population. Why do we protect the most evil of our criminals?! Who cares about their lives after what they have done?! Let them smell and feel the fear like the babies they have raped and ripped apart for eternity. I think it is BS for LE to keep them safe from harm in prison!! How is this serving any form of justice?!

EXACTLY!! There is a poster on here whose signature line says, "Humans are the only species that protect their stupid." How true is that????? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Shamrock333/angry022.gif

believe09
10-16-2007, 05:42 PM
I think sexual assault of a minor child/toddler/infant should qualify you for DP. Not a whole lot of rationalization going to get you out of this kind of crime-the idea that there are people in Patience's life claiming she has no apparent effects are going to go a long way in Chester's defense...can't you hear his public defender now? "OK folks I know this is hard to hear, but what we have is a victim less crime...allegedly no recollection, allegedly no physical wounds-lets call it child abuse, slap him on the wrist and call it a day, hmm???"

THIS is what I fear.

So the people in her life, like her mother, Tina, Todd,etc.. are going to have to own their responsibility that they failed her. And she may have to remember. A lose, lose for Patience maybe. I don't know what the answer is.:banghead:

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 05:43 PM
Hey Toms'sgirl, been away for two weeks. What about M's mom? I finally just learned her name on the sarcasticcrime article I just read posted by Dee,

Many of us have known of her name, where she works, and other info. about her for some time. However, since her name has not come up in the LE Media I have refrained from mentioning any of it. To date the only names in the media have been:

Tina Allen
Todd Allen
Stephani Allen
Lola A. Krause

Maybe if, and when we get a forum we can all discuss the Allen family and the other 'Cast Players' and the information we know of.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 05:45 PM
DD -- what link best sums up what this Tina chick has been saying? I'm at work and can't read all the links! :o


Tina hasn't talked at all in the past week and a half...I'm just going by what Tina said in all her earlier interviews. Probably the best is LKL and AMW , both of those sites still have her video links I beleive.

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 05:45 PM
EXACTLY!! There is a poster on here whose signature line says, "Humans are the only species that protect their stupid." How true is that????? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Shamrock333/angry022.gifIt is so very true! The problem is we have allowed their "kind" to have defense lawyers who by design have set up this existence for them in prison to keep them from being killed by other inmates. What about the inmates killed for lesser reasons? If this is the reasoning...then all prisoners should be in solitary and there should be no general population. They ALL deserve what they get. They are in prison because a jury of their peers put them there or they confessed to a crime they did commit. Protecting them from just punishment is a crime in itself...and we need to change the laws which allow it.

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:46 PM
I think sexual assault of a minor child/toddler/infant should qualify you for DP.

While I don't agree with the DP (I don't see the point of killing someone to prove killing someone is wrong - but that's a whole 'nother' thread), I agree that they should be treated just as harshly as murderers. In fact, I believe they should be locked up forever. The recidivism rate is astronomical. These guys just don't get better.

And maybe M isn't showing signs of being sexually abused now, but who's to say it won't surface in a year or five years or when she's 30??? My dad was molested as a child and didn't remember it until his adulthood.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 05:48 PM
I was wondering that too. I don't understand why having a forum would matter what we talk about and what we don't?? :confused:

If you recall we were asked to not bring up 'M's' name, which we haven't. Including info. about her mother would include 'M'.

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 05:50 PM
Oh, sorry. I was thinking that the dogs were in photos with Tina's family instead. I don't know WHERE in the hell my head is today!

phenolred
10-16-2007, 05:51 PM
And maybe M isn't showing signs of being sexually abused now, but who's to say it won't surface in a year or five years or when she's 30??? My dad was molested as a child and didn't remember it until his adulthood.

Or maybe she will remember it suddenly when she becomes sexually active

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:52 PM
If you recall we were asked to not bring up 'M's' name, which we haven't. Including info. about her mother would include 'M'.

I know but I don't see why having a forum makes it okay to bring it up?? What's the difference? Not being snippy here, I'm just truly curious.

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 05:53 PM
Or maybe she will remember it suddenly when she becomes sexually active

Exactly!! Either way it is going to affect her. This jerk should pay for that.

believe09
10-16-2007, 05:53 PM
While I don't agree with the DP (I don't see the point of killing someone to prove killing someone is wrong - but that's a whole 'nother' thread), I agree that they should be treated just as harshly as murderers. In fact, I believe they should be locked up forever. The recidivism rate is astronomical. These guys just don't get better.

And maybe M isn't showing signs of being sexually abused now, but who's to say it won't surface in a year or five years or when she's 30??? My dad was molested as a child and didn't remember it until his adulthood.

I don't agree with the DP as a deterrent, Shamrock, but what shall we do in a society when we have a aberrant individual who cannot be cured stalking our most vulnerable and we do not have the appetite to house them? Agreed it's for another thread.

Our judicial process gives all the power to the accused-I hope they can keep P off the stand-so I hope our lame-sorry Chester will cut a quick deal and cop to his other victims that we are so sure exist.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 06:21 PM
Thanks Dee for finding that article..that confirmed many of my suspisions.

I don't feel comfortable using M's Mom name because that then would lead to people figuring out M's full name. And little M is truly the vic here. So that's my reason for not outing her Mom at this point..because that would out M.

philamena
10-16-2007, 06:29 PM
If you recall we were asked to not bring up 'M's' name, which we haven't. Including info. about her mother would include 'M'.
Bears repeating.

KOOL LOOK
10-16-2007, 06:30 PM
Thanks Dee for finding that article..that confirmed many of my suspisions.

I don't feel comfortable using M's Mom name because that then would lead to people figuring out M's full name. And little M is truly the vic here. So that's my reason for not outing her Mom at this point..because that would out M.

I'm with you on this fully. I'm confused about one thing, I don't know that it has anything to do with the mom, but the bull mastiff thing, where does that come into play in this case? I'm dumb dumb concerning some terms used in certain sexual situations.

philamena
10-16-2007, 06:31 PM
I'm with you on this fully. I'm confused about one thing, I don't know that it has anything to do with the mom, but the bull mastiff thing, where does that come into play in this case? I'm dumb dumb concerning some terms used in certain sexual situations.

CAS owns a pregnant bull mastiff. Has nothing to do with the case except that he supposedly took the dog when he left town.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 06:38 PM
CAS owns a pregnant bull mastiff. Has nothing to do with the case except that he supposedly took the dog when he left town.

But interestingly enough according to Elaine he bought that dog from M's Mom the weekend before this story broke in the news. Meaning he also saw M, Tina and Todd that weekend and I would imagine Stephanie too.

philamena
10-16-2007, 06:46 PM
But interestingly enough according to Elaine he bought that dog from M's Mom the weekend before this story broke in the news. Meaning he also saw M, Tina and Todd that weekend and I would imagine Stephanie too.

DD,
Yes you're right. I read that part and that points to another interesting lie Tina told....didn't she go on national tv and say that she hadn't seen CAS in months or was it weeks?

I hope and pray I'm wrong but I have a feeling Tina is involved in Precious's rape maybe indirectly but who knows:banghead:. Tina's admitted she introduced the pos to the child---someone left the child alone with CAS.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 07:00 PM
But interestingly enough according to Elaine he bought that dog from M's Mom the weekend before this story broke in the news. Meaning he also saw M, Tina and Todd that weekend and I would imagine Stephanie too.

Bingo DD!

capps
10-16-2007, 07:15 PM
Actually,I'm surprised the police that stopped CAS,didn't recognize him immediately.Looking at his mug shot,he looks exactly the same with longer hair,the police didn't realize it was him,until CAS told them it was him.Just a little disappointed that the police didn't study his original picture close enough during the weeks searching,to not be able to ID him while looking straight at his face.

Anyway .... don't want to burst the bubble of CAS being caught!!!! Another sick person off the streets ....yahooo!!

Dr. Doogie
10-16-2007, 07:23 PM
CAS owns a pregnant bull mastiff. Has nothing to do with the case except that he supposedly took the dog when he left town.

Was CAS the father?

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 07:26 PM
Was CAS the father?

Sorry, don't understand the question, father of whom?

Dr. Doogie
10-16-2007, 07:32 PM
Sorry, don't understand the question, father of whom?

Of the pregnant mastiff. Never mind...:innocent:

mysteriew
10-16-2007, 07:47 PM
Was CAS the father?

ROFL!!!:woohoo: Probably!!!:clap::clap::clap:

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 07:56 PM
DD,
Yes you're right. I read that part and that points to another interesting lie Tina told....didn't she go on national tv and say that she hadn't seen CAS in months or was it weeks?

I hope and pray I'm wrong but I have a feeling Tina is involved in Precious's rape maybe indirectly but who knows:banghead:. Tina's admitted she introduced the pos to the child---someone left the child alone with CAS.

Well yes indeed , Miss Tina did say that on national tv , then in subsequent interviews she said the last she saw him was the begining of September....that's when we knew she was lying.

Also she did say his hair was longer and she did say he was driving an older model white Buick.
But other then those two things her story is complete BS.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 07:58 PM
You know, with Elaine entering the picture (and what she says in her interviews) I can just see the claws coming out and the fur flying...cat fight anyone?

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 08:05 PM
This one shows some shots not shown on the other links. Someone has asked about the "sorry" on the window, and it can be see here. As to who wrote that on there, no idea.

http://www.cbs8.com/stories/story.105986.html

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 08:19 PM
Thanks Tom's Girl..I couldn't see the sorry before...that was clearly visable on this tape.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 08:21 PM
Please admin gives us a forum to discuss this case.
Thank you
DD

philamena
10-16-2007, 08:25 PM
You know, with Elaine entering the picture (and what she says in her interviews) I can just see the claws coming out and the fur flying...cat fight anyone?


We just discussed this at dinner....those 2 women probably hate each other. Hope Elaine spills the beans about Tina.:blushing:

philamena
10-16-2007, 08:26 PM
Was CAS the father?

:doh::D I wouldn't put it past CAS.

justche
10-16-2007, 08:32 PM
We just discussed this at dinner....those 2 women probably hate each other. Hope Elaine spills the beans about Tina.:blushing:

I don't know that Elaine does hate Tina - Tina and Chester stayed "as a couple" with Elaine, I think for a month, according to that other blog.

I think Elaine has a live and let live attitude UNTIL it crosses a legality. (although only if it impacts her, she wouldn't move in with him with his pot growing scheme, but didn't mind that it existed.) I think there may be more behind her story as well....she however comes across as more truthful at this point.

The revulsion she must feel at what a monster he was and that she didn't catch is what is prompting this. (IMO)

I find it odd there have been no family interviews, I haven't even seen any "no comment" quotes from family members.

Buzzm1
10-16-2007, 08:38 PM
Hopefully Chester will fess up about his lfe as a perverted pedophile, plead guilty, and receive LWOP.

philamena
10-16-2007, 08:41 PM
http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7223056

Mother would kill CAS----

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 08:49 PM
http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7223056

Mother would kill CAS----

Thanks for the link philamena

lizzybeth
10-16-2007, 08:50 PM
Thank you for posting that link Tom'sgirl with the picture of "sorry" written on the car. I was beginning to think I had imagined it.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 08:53 PM
Thank you for posting that link Tom'sgirl with the picture of "sorry" written on the car. I was beginning to think I had imagined it.
YW lizzy :)

Littledeer
10-16-2007, 09:10 PM
Haven't posted anything before here, but have been reading. Just wanted to say as I was driving to work this morning, heard on then news that Chester Stiles had been arrested.......

PUMPED MY FIST UP IN THE AIR AND YELLED YEA!!!!!!!

Thought of all you loyal posters agonizing day after day after day, on where the he** this pedophile was and why wasn't he caught yet!

One less asshol* to hurt young innocent children!!!!!!!!!!!

Indiana at Heart
10-16-2007, 09:19 PM
http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7223056

Mother would kill CAS----



"But he says she knows with all the medical and police interviews she's undergone that something's going on around her."

That poor little girl life is being turned inside out!! Prayers for Precious!! Thats what I call her as saying her name would let other people know who she is and friends might find out who she is and some kids can be right down CRUDE!!!

mahmoo
10-16-2007, 09:25 PM
I'm not a psychiatrist......just a woman and a mom....and something tells me that little girl's memories and emotions are not far below the surface. I imagine just seeing a picture of that maniac would put that baby's mind into a tailspin.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 09:25 PM
http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7223056

Mother would kill CAS----

Thank you for that link. If someone I personally knew and trusted did this to my child I'd feel the same way.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 09:30 PM
I am sure she does remember this..to protect her, up until this point, I think that is why they said she doesn't remember. And to keep protecting her I think they will tell the press that she doesn't remember..but I think she does. The Monday after she was ID' she spent with counselors supplied by the state. Poor, poor little one....

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 09:34 PM
It was an interesting interview with Elaine on NG a few minutes ago. I could tell by the way Nancy addressed her that she has no clue this woman is a registered Dom. LOL I can't wait until we get that transcript. Nancy said something about her being a hardworking professional or something to that effect. Does Elaine have a day job we don't know about?

WSers never cease to amaze me. You found this woman long before anyone else knew she existed in this case and her background! Good job!

Littledeer
10-16-2007, 09:41 PM
As I said earlier................read some. But am I missing something here?
The "mother" has an attorney that says " Precious (as Indiana at Heart) is calling her) is aware that something is/has happened to her??

NO SHI*.....................any 7 year old with attention being pointed at him/her will figure that one out.

But if no one knows who she is...................then why is there any attention?? Unfortunately, she is known.

I am SO FREAKING HAPPY THAT HE IS CAUGHT to protect any other kids he might have gone after, but it's a catch twenty-two...........
now the young 3 year old who is now 7, will have to suffer for him getting caught.

(only for the media attention and anything else). Will need to read more!!!)

If I said anything wrong, it is only due to ignorance in not reading everything on this case.

capps
10-16-2007, 09:45 PM
I also saw Elaine on Nancy Grace,and I truly don't get it. According to Elaine,CAS told her he did grow and sell pot,there was a situation with a stolen car,he did own illegal guns,he did MOLEST A GIRL (I'm surprised Nancy didn't delve more into this one)... and yet they say,he was so nice and can't believe he would do such an awful thing to this little girl.I...just...do...not...get...it!

mahmoo
10-16-2007, 09:48 PM
And let us not forget...............he also has an accusation pending against him that he behaved inappropriately with a six year old.

Still wondering why the officer/detective on that case apparently handled it in a rather non-chalant manner if Elaine is telling the truth.

SeriouslySearching
10-16-2007, 09:53 PM
I wondered about that, too. If the detective DID take such a nonchalant approach to the first charge...he bears a lot of responsibility for what transpired in this case. He should have to answer for it.

Indiana at Heart
10-16-2007, 09:56 PM
I wondered about that, too. If the detective DID take such a nonchalant approach to the first charge...he bears a lot of responsibility for what transpired in this case. He should have to answer for it.


I agree SS!

Shamrock
10-16-2007, 09:57 PM
As I said earlier................read some. But am I missing something here?
The "mother" has an attorney that says " Precious (as Indiana at Heart) is calling her) is aware that something is/has happened to her??

NO SHI*.....................any 7 year old with attention being pointed at him/her will figure that one out.

But if no one knows who she is...................then why is there any attention?? Unfortunately, she is known.



I think by 'attention' they mean what is going on around her. They have had her in contact with a psychologist, so I have a feeling that has something to do with the 'attention'.

Al_B
10-16-2007, 09:58 PM
I don't want to speculate about the other abuse case we don't know if it happened before or after M in 2003.
The 2001 allegations do however concern me. Have they ever confirmed those?

FormerRichmondRes
10-16-2007, 09:59 PM
I'm not a psychiatrist......just a woman and a mom....and something tells me that little girl's memories and emotions are not far below the surface. I imagine just seeing a picture of that maniac would put that baby's mind into a tailspin.

Of course, according to Tina (I think) in a post not long ago, it was mentioned that CAS had been at the house and the girl saw him and was 'fine.'

It will be interesting to find out the truth in all of this.

Indy Gal
10-16-2007, 10:06 PM
Damn guys, just caught up...LOL

I couldve sworn they said Tina was the one who told them of CAS?
I just can believe she was trying to get Info out of this woman after she knew. How dare she not call the police?? Am I right to assume that The police contacted Tina?

mahmoo
10-16-2007, 10:10 PM
Of course, according to Tina (I think) in a post not long ago, it was mentioned that CAS had been at the house and the girl saw him and was 'fine.'

It will be interesting to find out the truth in all of this.

That's right..........to pick up a puppy I think. Thanks for jogging my alzheimer memory for me.....LOL.

On a serious note though......I wonder what goes through that little girl's mind when she sees him. Makes me wonder even more.....has she been around him on a somewhat regular basis since this attrocity took place????? Sounds to me like he's been in some kind of contact with her family since he knew of a puppy they were wanting to sell/give away.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 10:13 PM
Indy,
I don't think LE ever contacted TINA..they knew about Tina through Elaine. I think they just let Tina do her thing (interviews and all) hoping Tina would either lead them to CAS or come to them for protection. Since they knew about her they wee watching her.

mahmoo
10-16-2007, 10:16 PM
Damn guys, just caught up...LOL

I couldve sworn they said Tina was the one who told them of CAS?
I just can believe she was trying to get Info out of this woman after she knew. How dare she not call the police?? Am I right to assume that The police contacted Tina?

Good question. If Elaine's interview was truthful....sounds like she was the initial person to identify CAS.......then from there gave LE info she knew about him which would include Tina I'm sure.....purely speculation on my part but I assume LE headed straight to Tina after talking with Elaine.

Another thing I took away from Elaine's interview......not only did it sound like Elaine was extremely concerned about her identity being revealed prior to his capture.........sounded like the writer was scared silly too..........wonder why?

SuziQ
10-16-2007, 10:21 PM
I also saw Elaine on Nancy Grace,and I truly don't get it. According to Elaine,CAS told her he did grow and sell pot,there was a situation with a stolen car,he did own illegal guns,he did MOLEST A GIRL (I'm surprised Nancy didn't delve more into this one)... and yet they say,he was so nice and can't believe he would do such an awful thing to this little girl.I...just...do...not...get...it!

And Tina said the same d*mned thing. These people are the worst judges of character I have ever seen! I still think they are all playing stupid to CTA.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 10:21 PM
I think that when Elaine says that CAS was only into pot, no other drugs, that is to cover herself with LE. He has been named by other Family Members as a supplier of pot to big entertainers and bands performing in Vegas. Now imagine yourself as this Vegas promoter who needs to supply the entertainers coming into Vegas with whatever they need. Would you make 3 or 4 calls for drugs per the bands taste in that area..or would you call on one person who could supply whatever you needed? Sorry, but CAS, Tina and Elaine are not naive babes in the woods. Of course Elaine commented about the pot because others before her had mentioned him growing and selling it....but harder drugs..yes indeed they were there and available whatever your vice. She needs to keep as much illegal stuff out of her presentation because she is a madam, via phone or internet, living in Pahrump..where the tape itself was found.

richandfamous
10-16-2007, 10:22 PM
Damn great news that they caught him. But, I missed all the cable news about it. Which comes on first, the dead guy (LKL) or nancy grace?

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 10:27 PM
Damn great news that they caught him. But, I missed all the cable news about it. Which comes on first, the dead guy (LKL) or nancy grace?

In my area NG, but you need to look at your own TV lineup for your area.

richandfamous
10-16-2007, 10:30 PM
thanks but I guess I just missed it. I just hate it when real life and work gets in the way of my passion for following crimes in the news and hunting down criminals.

mahmoo
10-16-2007, 10:31 PM
I think that when Elaine says that CAS was only into pot, no other drugs, that is to cover herself with LE.

Informative post but i'll respectfully snip it a little........if what you're saying is true.....good grief.....these people are weaving a seriously tangled web.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 10:32 PM
Good question. If Elaine's interview was truthful....sounds like she was the initial person to identify CAS

Lets just say she was the only one who contacted the LE, not the first to identify Stiles.

No one will ever convice me that out of the entire crew, 'M's mom; Tina; Stephani; Todd; grandma Nola; other siblings and their associates that none of them saw his face on television.....what a crock!

They all, as a group chose to keep quiet to cover their own butts and their lack of responsibility in the care and of little 'M'.

Tina continued her on again, off again thing with Stiles, so in all probability the poor child has seen him several times during the past four years.

CaliKid
10-16-2007, 10:34 PM
At least with him caught M and other little girls won't have to worry about Stiles anymore. Catching this POS was the first step in M's recovery. I pray that she can somehow find a way to get over the trauma of what was done to her.

I don't blame her mother for wanting to kill him. I sincerely hope the Nevada penal system takes care of that problem too.

MsPooh
10-16-2007, 10:36 PM
From Elaines Interview.....
Fri morning: The day after I talked to the FBI office, I was on the phone with the FBI Agent, and saw call waiting and it was Tina.
She was calling to tell me that they released Chet’s name that afternoon and she wanted to know if the police had talked to me about him. Tina also said that what kills her the most is that the little girl in the video just say Chet last week and was fine with him. Chet had gone over there to adopt a dog from them. A pregnant Bull Mastiff/Pit Bull mix.
He picked up a dog from her that’s why they saw *******, the little gir’s mother.

http://sarcasticcrime.com/?p=56

capps
10-16-2007, 10:39 PM
And Tina said the same d*mned thing. These people are the worst judges of character I have ever seen! I still think they are all playing stupid to CTA.

I don't know what it is SuziQ. No matter how gullible or desperate I was...when a guy I'm seeing admits to my face that he molested a girl,if nothing else,I would start worrying about my own safety.But what does Elaine say? He was nice,he would open doors for me.There is a missing link here somewhere ... something just doesn't hold true.There's more to this story than meets the eye.

mahmoo
10-16-2007, 10:47 PM
I don't blame her mother for wanting to kill him. I sincerely hope the Nevada penal system takes care of that problem too.

I can only imagine that the devil's spawns that are already incarcerated in Nevada prison's are licking their chops and foaming at the mouth hoping CAS gets sentenced to their facility. He better hope that the prison guards are 100% successful at keeping him segregated because one slip up and we'll be reading CAS's obit.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 10:48 PM
thanks but I guess I just missed it. I just hate it when real life and work gets in the way of my passion for following crimes in the news and hunting down criminals.

Since late last night it has been on every T.V. channel you turn to, not just cable. It's been on all the radio stations also.

Also the Internet news alerts have been coming rapidly since he was arrested last night.

DawnTCB
10-16-2007, 11:00 PM
I wondered about that, too. If the detective DID take such a nonchalant approach to the first charge...he bears a lot of responsibility for what transpired in this case. He should have to answer for it.

My take on this from Elaine's story was that the detective was trying to reach him and she now knows CAS didn't really try to get back in touch with them, although he pretended to. After she explains that he set the alarm to get up early and start calling the detective again she says:
Even looking back now I can see how I was fooled. It seems to me like she just believed he was trying to "do the right thing" by following up with this detective, when really he was avoiding the detective. Essentially from her story he avoids the first polygraph, the day they are meeting with the detective, and skips the next two polygraphs from what she knows. But then uses as an excuse that he is afraid of the polygraph or that somehow, even though he is "innocent", that polygraph could be used against him.

Now the part where no one checked back with Elaine on CAS' whereabouts from apparently March of 2004 to the present - that may be the detective's fault. I guess it would depend on how she presented the status of their relationship. If LE called me about someone I used to date, and I said "sorry, he is living with his new girlfriend now, I don't know how to reach them...", I would be pretty upset if they kept calling me to check and see if he had been around. :) On the other hand, since he HAD been around, it was probably her responsibility to let LE know, and she apparently did not until she saw his face on the news. :(

I have to say, the part of Elaine's story that kept sticking out to me was how many women put a roof over his head... she herself, both in her own home and in hotels... this Susan, in HER own home and then she rented something for him in Parhump, and of course Tina... :doh: it is amazing to me that he was able to convince people to pay his rent! What is the deal with that!??!??!

Busylady
10-16-2007, 11:01 PM
I just don't get it, this man was abusive (at least to the mother of his son 3 arrest for domestic violence), they knew he had criminal charges, growing pot, jumping from women to women, and they continued to stay "friends" and in the case of the mother she let her son stay with him at a known dominatrix house, the Allens let him around their children. What the hell is wrong with these people? Someone needs to really check into these peoples homes that have small children and see what enviornment they are being raised in. This just makes me so angry, they are adults if they wanna screw up their own life fine, but there are children involved!!!!!!!!

justche
10-16-2007, 11:06 PM
Lets just say she was the only one who contacted the LE, not the first to identify Stiles.

No one will ever convice me that out of the entire crew, 'M's mom; Tina; Stephani; Todd; grandma Nola; other siblings and their associates that none of them saw his face on television.....what a crock!

They all, as a group chose to keep quiet to cover their own butts and their lack of responsibility in the care and of little 'M'.

Tina continued her on again, off again thing with Stiles, so in all probability the poor child has seen him several times during the past four years.

agreed completely.
I think there will eventually be much finger pointing and telling tales to protect themselves.

I don't believe Elaine's version of how the police handled it. Child molest cases don't get put off "until the new year" or however it was phrased. There is definitely pieces that haven't been told yet.

laura2007
10-16-2007, 11:15 PM
I have to say, the part of Elaine's story that kept sticking out to me was how many women put a roof over his head... she herself, both in her own home and in hotels... this Susan, in HER own home and then she rented something for him in Parhump, and of course Tina... :doh: it is amazing to me that he was able to convince people to pay his rent! What is the deal with that!??!??!The word gigolo comes to mind.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 11:18 PM
[quote=justche;1743238]agreed completely.
I think there will eventually be much finger pointing and telling tales to protect themselves.

100% agreed on that...they've already started the finger pointing and CAS hasn't even started to talk. Which is why I posted earlier the claws are coming out and the fur is about to fly.

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 11:32 PM
Still, there has to be some responsiblity on the part of not only Tina and Elaine..but "THE FAMILY" members, as they like to call themselves.

From Stephani's reaction at the very beginning with the reporter at her door, you know they knew Stiles was not a good guy. So, why would you associate with and leave your kids with this type of guy? I know they have said through Todd that they didn't know how this happened other then on Tina's watch....but if your Mom is babysitting your kids and friends kids, and dating this guy..you had to know that he would be stopping by at some point. Also if you thought the guy was a bad guy from the physical abuse,etc and your Mom still stayed with him..why would you think your Mom was a good choice to babysit...she couldn't and didn't make good choices in other areas? Because you didn't make good choices either and really didn't think twice about Tina watching the kids. You partied with her and CAS, you smoked his dope, he bought your pregnant dog...but now you say you didn't know him and that just doesn't jive with the truth.

Another fallacy: In Elaines story..CAS doesn't drink...right..that's why he had a bottle of whiskey in his car last night. The throwing up..well she did say he gets migraines.. evidently he also gets scared. I realized this interview with Elaine was done prior to last night..but boy she was already covering her sweet madam butt.

No one in this little group seems to be able to tell 100% the whole truth..they weave little tales in and out of it to please themselves and cover their past .

DeltaDawn
10-16-2007, 11:40 PM
I can't wait until they catch up with the elusive Susan in El Cajon...which I am sure they will. She will be another interesting character in this episode before it is all done. In her case, it will be a matter of following the money trail.

Tom'sGirl
10-16-2007, 11:57 PM
I can't wait until they catch up with the elusive Susan in El Cajon...which I am sure they will. She will be another interesting character in this episode before it is all done.

Yes she will, and it will interesting to learn if she has children, grown or other.

Busylady
10-17-2007, 12:03 AM
Well Belles site has been shut down, concidence? I am thinking no lol.

lululove1996
10-17-2007, 12:04 AM
I definitely think someone (Tina) was helping CAS this entire time. If he was driving around the Nevada area then where did he get gas money and liquor money?? I think I saw the LE (at the time of arrest) holding up a bottle of liquor (Crown Royal, if I saw it correctly) which is pretty expensive! I was also thinking that CAS must have known that he was gonna get in trouble soon because he started growing out his hair. It had to be a substantial amount of time to grow it that long. I mean his facial hair was three weeks worth of growth and there wasnt that much present...so his hair on his head had to be months and months worth of growth. Perhaps Tina knew the video was missing and told CAS and he knew it would be just a matter time before it surfacing again, so he started growing it knowing he was going to have to run soon. Maybe Tuck was one of his drug customers and stole it from the drug house while he was there?? Or perhaps Tuck was a participant in their orgies and knew it existed and wanted it for whatever sick reasons. Just some thoughts.