Interactive Interview with Elaine Thomas about Chester Stiles!

[allybeemer]

On Saturday, October 20th, at 6PM EST/3PM PST we invite you to join us at Sarcastic Crime Talk Radio for a two hour live and interactive interview with Elaine Thomas, former girlfriend of Chester Arthur Stiles, and Conrad Claus, her attorney.

http:/www.blogtalkradio.com/crime

Guests to blogtalkradio.com should arrive about 20 minutes early to register for a listener account so that your name will show up in the chat room. If you choose to do that early and need help, please email shannondingee at blogtalkradio.com and I'll be happy to help you.

Phone lines will open at 6pm EST, and the chat room should open about 5 minutes prior to the show beginning.

You can call in and ask the questions that you want to know about Chester Stiles, Elaine's relationship with Chester Stiles and the events leading up to Elaine identifying him to Nye County.

We ask that you please remember that Elaine is the person who identified him to law enforcement, and is not the criminal here. With that in mind, you may ask your questions, but please do so nicely.

We look forward to speaking with you and clearing up the questions you have about what Elaine Thomas knows about Chester Arthur Stiles.

If you get a chance, stop by www.sarcasticcrime.com for an indepth interview that I did last week with Elaine and you might find that more questions pop up from reading that!

~Shannon
www.sarcasticcrime.com
www.blogtalkradio.com/crime

[philamena]

THANK you for the invitation. This should be an insightful interview.;)

[dkitty]

Shucks...I hate to miss this, but we have to go out to eat with some relatives tomorrow evening...
Poop! :mad:

[DeltaDawn]

What questions would we have for Elaine?
Maybe we could get some questions together here and if someone is lucky enough to get in the chat room they could ask some of them.

I for one would like to know more about "Susan", CAS friend from SO CAL that both Tina and Elaine seem to know.

Also Elaine says she wouldn't visit a house CAS shared with Tina because of all the pot and stuff he did..what other stuff was she referring to?

Does she or anyone she knows know Tuck? If so is there any info she can share about
him ?

Does she know Tina's children?

[Jaded]

What is her relationship with Tina and did she remove Tina from her myspace recently because of the publicity?

Did she know about the previous warrant out for CAS?

[DeltaDawn]

Does Elaine know C, M's Mom and M? If so, how does she know them...through CAS and Tina?

[Tom'sGirl]

I'm listening now and on the Blog board as Guest

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh! I am glad someone posted this!!! Thanks~

[Tom'sGirl]

Oh! I am glad someone posted this!!! Thanks~
okay, I'm now listed as onmydell

[philamena]

Tom'sGirl,
Please keep us posted. I have company and am trying to discreetly run back and forth to the computer.

[Tom'sGirl]

Tom'sGirl,
Please keep us posted. I have company and am trying to discreetly run back and forth to the computer.

LOL, it's all over now, ended about 8 minutes ago. I had a hell of a time getting my name registered on the chat board, had to keep using Guest. I posted onmydell after my posts until I received an email from them telling me I was registered but would have to clear my cookies and try logging in again. I did so, and my name finally appeared. They were great to me and I received an invite to others sites, but as of yet have not decided whether I want to go that route or not :angel:

Then I couln't get logged in here after clearing Cookies, damn, typed in my usename wrong so was on lock out for 15 minutes as a safe guard, which is really a good feature.

I lost some of the logs from the chat when I deleted my Cookies, but did copy the questions asked when I was reconnected and have them. None of the answers are there, just the postings in chat.

Whew, now have to go set up all my links again!

If anyone wants I can post the questions that I have logged, if the MOD/Admin. thinks it okay.

[J. Brannagh]

Yes! Please Tom's Girl...

I didn't get to listen and I would love to hear how it went and what was said...

What was your general opinion??

Did you hear anything interesting...

I would love to read a transcript!

[itsreenw]

LOL, it's all over now, ended about 8 minutes ago. I had a hell of a time getting my name registered on the chat board, had to keep using Guest. I posted onmydell after my posts until I received an email from them telling me I was registered but would have to clear my cookies and try logging in again. I did so, and my name finally appeared. They were great to me and I received an invite to others sites, but as of yet have not decided whether I want to go that route or not :angel:

Then I couln't get logged in here after clearing Cookies, damn, typed in my usename wrong so was on lock out for 15 minutes as a safe guard, which is really a good feature.

I lost some of the logs from the chat when I deleted my Cookies, but did copy the questions asked when I was reconnected and have them. None of the answers are there, just the postings in chat.

Whew, now have to go set up all my links again!

If anyone wants I can post the questions that I have logged, if the MOD/Admin. thinks it okay. Please share with us whatever you can when you get approval.

[cheko1]

TomsGirl,
You are the best!!!
TY so much!!!!

[Tom'sGirl]

TomsGirl,
You are the best!!!
TY so much!!!!
Don't thank me yet LOL, it was a mess with four windows open trying to get set up on their site, then having to dump everything kinda upset me, but, oh well.

Let me check again to see how much and I have on my log, it isn't much and really nothing I think Jeana would object to, but won't post it until I feel it okay to do so.

[Tom'sGirl]

Unfortunately I have very litte of the chat board log, but did ask Shannon on the Board there if she was going to post a transcript of the two hour interview, she unfortunately did not answer.

Basically Elaine went over about the same thing she had said in the interview that was posted, with a few exceptions when asked by someone.

She kept mentioning her poor health, and about getting well, but never mentioned what her health issue/s are.

She answered "no" when I asked if she knew Darren Tuck.

Since or her atty. mentioned her business, I asked what her business was adding (if her atty. lets her answer) she went silent for a moment, then her atty. stepped in saying something to the effect of not going into it...............Shannon inserted a :) to me as I didn't think he would let her answer.

I asked if either of them thought someone else may have been helping with the taping of video, or present during the taping. Elaine's atty. Claus said he didn't know if Stiles acted on his own, but does not believe 'M's mother was, however it could involve someone else possibility, male or female.

They were very careful not to mention 'M's mother's name.

I asked Elaine if Tina was living with her daughter Stephani, and Elaine said "now"? The she went on to say she didn't know for sure but that is where she always stayed before.
(I refrained from asking what I think, and that being that they live in grandma Krause's house as that's where Stephani was when interviewed)

A question was asked about Elaine's relationship with Tina. Elaine replied they were friends, and hoped they still were.

Elaine said she knew both Stephani and Todd, but not 'M's mother.

[Tom'sGirl]

Elaine confirmed the dates with her atty. She will be on AMW November 3rd, and on Nancy Grace November 19th (I'm guessing she has already done a tape for AMW, and that will be the date it's aired)

Elaine said she hoped for a fair trial for Stiles, but really hoped he would plead guilty so the families involved would not have to go through a trial.

When asked if Stiles would be protected/isolated in Prison if convicted was told "Yes" but they also mentioned he could go to a NV facility called of all things "Love Lock" where they house only Sex Offenders. Other options could be Lompoc, or facility in So. Carolina depending on Federal charges, etc.

If I think of anymore will post them as they pop into my head guys :)

[laura2007]

The radio show is still accessible as an archive.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/crime/2007/10/20/Chester-Stiles-Ex-Elaine-Thomas-Join-us-for-a-2-hour-Show

[Tom'sGirl]

The radio show is still accessible as an archive.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/crime/2007/10/20/Chester-Stiles-Ex-Elaine-Thomas-Join-us-for-a-2-hour-Show

Yes, the Audio will remain, as all her interviews are there, however the logs from the Chat aren't there.

[philamena]

LOL, it's all over now, ended about 8 minutes ago. I had a hell of a time getting my name registered on the chat board, had to keep using Guest. .....an invite to others sites, but as of yet have not decided whether I want to go that route or not :angel: .

Sorry you had to go through so much. I want to say thanks Tom'sGirl:blowkiss:, for everything you did.

[allybeemer]

Thank you all so much for tuning in tonight. Your questions were excellent, and your interraction was much appreciated. For those who missed it, you are able to go to www.blogtalkradio.com/crime and listen to the podcast or you can go to www.sarcasticcrime.com and this week there until the next show is broadcast, it will play on the player there too.

Again, you guys were awesome, and had really excellent questions. If you have more, you are always welcome to call into the show, or get ahold of me through my blogtalkradio.com/crime show and I'll be happy to accomodate and get the answers you want not only on this case but any other cases we cover as well.

Thanks and best!

Shannon
Sarcastic Crime Talk Radio
www.blogtalkradio.com/crime
www.sarcasticcrime.com

[alpharee]

it's called, Love Lock? Ugh that's just sick!

thanks for all you did! It's nice to get a hands on report :)

[Tom'sGirl]

Thank you all so much for tuning in tonight. Your questions were excellent, and your interraction was much appreciated.
Shannon
Sarcastic Crime Talk Radio
www.blogtalkradio.com/crime (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/crime)
www.sarcasticcrime.com (http://www.sarcasticcrime.com)
Shannon, thank you and the others yesterday for finally getting my name registered on your Chat Board, I was frustrated at first wanting to make sure some of the questions that were of concern here were asked (okay, so I threw in a few others ;))

Some of the questions asked in Chat you of course could not ask, understandably. I thought it cute when you delicately tried to re-word the question about the video one guest asked, you are a doll!

Thank you from all of us here at Websleuths!

[DeltaDawn]

Thanks Tom's Girl. The answers she gave were verry interesting. Sorry yuo had trouble getting logged in there, but thank yuo for hanging in and getting our questions asked/answered. You're the best.

[Tom'sGirl]

Sorry you had to go through so much. I want to say thanks Tom'sGirl:blowkiss:, for everything you did.

YW philamena, I sure didn't do it for a "thanks", but I appreciate you saying it.

In the end it was worth losing my "Cookies" ;)

[Tom'sGirl]

it's called, Love Lock? Ugh that's just sick!

thanks for all you did! It's nice to get a hands on report :)

Yes alpharee, what a name for the facility, wonder who thought that up when naming it? :rolleyes:

I'm so glad you all are able to hear the audio of the Interview, Shannon asked almost all questions posters were asking.

[Tom'sGirl]

Please share with us whatever you can when you get approval.
I sure will itsreenw, If I get the approval I will post some of the questions being asked in the Chat Room. Shannon had to be selective in asking questions asked, but did ask Elaine or her Attorney 99.9% of them.

[Tom'sGirl]

Thanks Tom's Girl. The answers she gave were verry interesting. Sorry yuo had trouble getting logged in there, but thank yuo for hanging in and getting our questions asked/answered. You're the best.
I too found some of Elaine's answers interesting. I don't think she made anything up, but I do think she 'White-washed' some of the answers.

Somehow in her statements about CAS it came across to me at least that she truly thinks of him as 'all that' and that she has/had an infatuation for him even.

[DeltaDawn]

[quote=Tom'sGirl;1751365]I too found some of Elaine's answers interesting. I don't think she made anything up, but I do think she 'White-washed' some of the answers.

I thought the answers she gave were truthful, but I also felt she is holding some info back, but that is probably because of LE involvement and certain things she just cannot discuss due to the case. I also thought some things she had more info on, but for her own reasons just said enough to answer the question. Example when she was asked if she knew Tuck, her answer was just no..nothing more..and on many other things she would elaborate. So I got the sense she didn't know Tuck, but that there was more to it then that..as in but I know people that do know him. But she never said that, so that's just my speculation/opinion.

I got the feeling she and Claus were about as honest in answering the questions as they could be under the circumstances.

[Jaded]

Okay, here's something that's in my brain - if these women and CAS are into BDSM - maybe he is their master. It's possible and would explain why such a hold and their "lurve" for him.

[alpharee]

Okay, here's something that's in my brain - if these women and CAS are into BDSM - maybe he is their master. It's possible and would explain why such a hold and their "lurve" for him.
that is a big possibility!

[itsreenw]

I just emailed Shannon and asked if she could find out what usernames CAS used online. You know pedos love interacting with one another on the internet. Might lead us to some of his associates.

Elaine said she taught him to use the computer and he showed her the pics of the dojo in TX to prove he was a blackbelt.

I'm sure if she searched her pc she'd find some undesirable sites if he ever had the chance to hop online while he was alone.

[allybeemer]

I asked Elaine, and she said she's not aware of any screen names that he used. But, that's not to say that he hasn't used any. I am certain (100%) that LE is tracking down this lead.

I don't know if other than at Elaines he had much access to the pc. But, I'm thinking that will be one of those facts that will make its way to the surface over a period of time.

I don't think that he's as technologically sophisticated as say Jack McClellan, but there could be something there, you're right!


Shannon

[dee10134]

Okay, here's something that's in my brain - if these women and CAS are into BDSM - maybe he is their master. It's possible and would explain why such a hold and their "lurve" for him.

If Elaine's a dominatrix, then 9 times out of 10, SHE would be the "master" or "dom" in the situation.

[Jaded]

Her now defunct website stated that she enjoyed doing both. She may have provided a dom service but I think these women were somehow sexually and emotionally controlled by CAS.

[Tom'sGirl]

I asked Elaine, and she said she's not aware of any screen names that he used. But, that's not to say that he hasn't used any. I am certain (100%) that LE is tracking down this lead.

I don't know if other than at Elaines he had much access to the pc. But, I'm thinking that will be one of those facts that will make its way to the surface over a period of time.

I don't think that he's as technologically sophisticated as say Jack McClellan, but there could be something there, you're right!

Shannon

Shannon,

I have gotten approval from Jeana/Administrator to post the questions presented to you in 'Chat' the day of the interview.

If it's okay with you I will post some of the questions............please inform me if it's okay on your end.

[allybeemer]

It's ok with me if they're copied word for word, and there's no editing, so that everything can be used in the context it was said in. If that sounds fair, I'm game!

Shannon

[Tom'sGirl]

It's ok with me if they're copied word for word, and there's no editing, so that everything can be used in the context it was said in. If that sounds fair, I'm game!

Shannon

Thank you Shannon, unfortunately I only have partial logs (nothing edited) in two parts due to getting set up correctly with your station.
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3:34 PM: Guest: sorry forgot to end that post as onmydell
3:35 PM: Guest: Elaine is just repeating what she has already told you
Shannon3:36 PM: Shannon: If you have particular questions, then you should ask
them...
3:36 PM: christiemarie: copy and paste your pw
3:37 PM: Guest: I did chris, received two different one...........onmydell
3:38 PM: christiemarie: deltet the ones you have, all of them, and
request a new one
3:38 PM: christiemarie: then, copy and paste it
3:38 PM: Guest: okay chris.............onmydell
3:38 PM: christiemarie:
3:40 PM: WSN Radio: guest
3:41 PM: WSN Radio: i just emailed you your new password
3:41 PM: olivebean: Question for Elaine: he also told me in the gulf war--
was that true?
3:42 PM: Project Love Shield: Question for Elaine: If Chet gets the life
sentence, will you put money on his books,visit, and write him?
3:46 PM: olivebean: he was 22 at the time. I met him here in seattle.
Again he was really scary. He actually stole my car too back in 94. Again--
can u ask her if he is really souix indian? thx
3:47 PM: Shannon: I will ask.
3:47 PM: olivebean: thanks.
3:47 PM: Texas Bulldog: With Elaine knowing Chester as well as she
does does she believe that Chester would run if let out on bail? Does he
have enough contacts to stay hidden for any amount of time?
3:49 PM: christiemarie: the can
3:49 PM: christiemarie: big huge logs
********** at 3:49 PM OnMyDell joined the room
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********** To send a private message, type: <nameOfUser> your
message here
OnMyDell: whew, lets see if I'm finally here
OnMyDell: yeah!
WSN Radio: yea!
christiemarie:
Amber Wheatley: Yay!
OnMyDell: will load a photo later
christiemarie:
christiemarie: i like the
Amber Wheatley: so do I
olivebean: he said he was from south dakota
OnMyDell: not where his birth certificate says
olivebean: where did u find his BC?
********** at 3:55 PM somewhereinvegas left the room
OnMyDell: olive, Name:Chester Arthur StilesGender:Male Date of Birth:14
Sep 1970County:Jefferson Mother's name:Sandra L CookeRegister
Date:18 Sep 1970 Volume Number:080 Certificate Number:39695
Volume Year:1970
olivebean: Thanks
OnMyDell: I lost my my log when I had to clear cookies. Did Elaine ever
answer if she knew Darren Tuck?
olivebean: no--not yet.
Shannon: She hasn't but I'll ask.
OnMyDell: Thank you Shannon

[Tom'sGirl]

OnMyDell: a PD, Jeff banks I thought
OnMyDell: Told ya
Texas Bulldog: Aint you just the smart on OnMyDell. lol
Texas Bulldog: one
OnMyDell:
OnMyDell: Question for Atty. Claus: Do you believe anyone else was
helping with the filming or vido, or spectators?
olivebean: Also-- detective DeMeo said in his initial press conference
that it was the worst video he had ever seen in his 25+ yrs. Then on Larry
King DeMeo said that he hadn't even watched the video.
OnMyDell: That's Sheriff DeMeo, not Det
OnMyDell: the Det was David Boruchowitz
olivebean: so would that mean that he could unfortunatley get off on a
technicality?
Texas Bulldog: Question for Atty: if or WHEN Stiles is convicted, what will
happen to Stiles when he is put in prison? Solitary conf., general pop. or
what?
********** at 4:26 PM Mel-Mrs. New Orleans joined the room
OnMyDell: Question for Elaine/or Atty. Clause: Does Tina live where her
daughter Steph lives?
OnMyDell: oops, meant Atty. Claus
Guest: I applaud Elaine
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Guest: got knocked out
OnMyDell: Question for Atty. Claus: Does he, in his opinion think it was
wise for Pahrump to have held all the media interviews they did following
the arrest of Darren Tuck
********** at 4:37 PM greeneyz joined the room
OnMyDell: because at the Presser Stephani Allen's name was brought up
OnMyDell: You're doing so good Shannon
Shannon:
********** at 4:40 PM Mel-Mrs. New Orleans left the room
Guest: Hi theres terrible feedback we here out here, can u do something
about that?
Guest: I have perfect sound here
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OnMyDell: my sound also is perfect
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Guest: On the other side of victim....has there been any empowering
moments throughout this?
Guest: sorry I came in late and this may have already been addressed.
Did Elaine meet Chester through her dominatrix business, and does she
know who Darrin Tuck is?
OnMyDell: She ansered "No" to knowing Tuck
Guest: she doesnt know Tuck and no to the other answer
Guest: ok ty
OnMyDell: She said met Stiles through a friend
Guest: Has this incident forced you to shut down your business? And
also you have been deleted from Tina's myspace page, are you in
connect with Tina?
olivebean: will she communicate with him in ever again...or has she
since he's been in jail?
olivebean: whats the link to tinas myspace page?
OnMyDell: Elaines attorney did not let Elaine answer my question about
her business type
Guest:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendI (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendI)
D=42768470
Guest: k ty omydell
********** at 4:50 PM Dr. Blogstein joined the room
olivebean: Thanks!
Guest: yw
Guest: Ty Shannon for the greta show
Guest: great
Shannon:
olivebean: the link didnt work.
Guest: Through this difficult time did a lot of your friends support and
comfort you, or has it been pretty much just Mr. Klaus?
Guest: hmmm i click on it and it pulls right up olive
OnMyDell: right click on link
OnMyDell: open in new browser
Guest: wondering what Elaines relationship is with Tina?
********** at 4:54 PM PLS Training joined the room
Guest: Has there been friends that kept you company in ur time of need
Guest: when chester stayed in your home where there small children
living in the home?
OnMyDell: Question for the record: Correct spelling for Darren
Tuck.............some media is spelling it Darrin
Guest: Elaine has no children
Guest: do you think that if there is any probation given for Chester Stiles
that he will come looking for you? What are your feelings on that?
********** at 4:57 PM Dr. Blogstein left the room
OnMyDell: Question for Shannon: Will you have a transcript of this
conversation on your page?
olivebean: no--thx it does work now.
OnMyDell: THANK YOU SO MUCH SHANNON FOR THE INTERVIEW
Guest: olive go to myspace - hit search - type in tina allen she is on the
fourth page
Guest: oh ok you got it
olivebean: it works now.
olivebean: thanks shannon
Shannon: Thank you all so much for coming!
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[DeltaDawn]

That's interesting reading Elaine's blog. I read the comment from a friend of hers after that and that gave me pause as to who that person is in connection to CAS, Elaine and this case. Anyone have any ideas on that one?

[allybeemer]

Elaine said she is an old roommate/friend of Elaine's that was living in the house when CAS was there.

[DeltaDawn]

Thanks Ally, I quess with all the girlfriends he had and all the various friends they had that there are many people out there that know CAS other then just Tina, and her family and Elaine and her friends.

[DeltaDawn]

Allybeamer,
I think that Elaine must read here after reading her blog entries. Please let her know that I have revised my opinion on her somewhat. I did say previous to this that I felt she was vey brave and should be commended for coming forward..I still very much feel that way..without her help being so forthcoming, they may have still been trying to ID stiles./ And she put herself at great physical and emotional risk in doing so. I think it was very much a case of her knowing how to and when to draw the line between loving a person as a friend and knowing that without her help he would not be caught. That also showed she knows how to draw the line in what is acceptable behavior to her and unacceptable..which, I have to admit at first I was leary of..but she has shown that she absolutely has boundaries within a relationship that cannot be crossed, and obviously one of those is harming children in anyway.
In her blog she wrote also about whomever did this to Stiles in the past should also be held accountable, but how and to what extent was also on her mind..since she doesn't know these people from his childhood. I totally agree, for every child molester that is out there, there is one or more of those people lurking in that molester's background that did this to them...which is why the cycle continues.
Ally, please feel free to pass this message onto Elaine if you feel it is appropriate.

[DeltaDawn]

Elaine said she is an old roommate/friend of Elaine's that was living in the house when CAS was there.

That's interesting because when you go to her Myspace she is only 22 years old..if she is an old roommate.. then she must have been in her teens when she was living with Elaine.. a few years ago atleast, to me, means old roommate. And 3 years ago whe would have only been 19.

[allybeemer]

That's interesting because when you go to her Myspace she is only 22 years old..if she is an old roommate.. then she must have been in her teens when she was living with Elaine.. a few years ago atleast, to me, means old roommate. And 3 years ago whe would have only been 19.

She was 18 when she started living with Elaine. She was more or less a street urchin Elaine took in and is her "semi-adopted daughter", to coin Elaine's phrase. Over the last 4 years she has lived at Elaine's house on and off.

Elaine speaks highly of her as she helped Elaine care for a friend with end stage pancreatic cancer - which is difficult for anyone to do, especially at that young age.

[Tom'sGirl]

That's interesting because when you go to her Myspace she is only 22 years old..if she is an old roommate.. then she must have been in her teens when she was living with Elaine.. a few years ago atleast, to me, means old roommate. And 3 years ago whe would have only been 19.
Even more interesting is that she supposedly went to School (not the Continuation HS) with some of my shirt-tail relatives in Riverside. Small world, yes?

She gives grad. year of 2001, add 6+ years and she would be around 24 or so now. She says she moved to Vegas in Jan. 03 for a short visit.

[allybeemer]

Even more interesting is that she supposedly went to School (not the Continuation HS) with some of my shirt-tail relatives in Riverside. Small world, yes?

She gives grad. year of 2001, add 6+ years and she would be around 24 or so now. She says she moved to Vegas in Jan. 03 for a short visit.

Elaine believes that is correct, as far as the graduation year and when she met her. The girl in question graduated very young (confirmed by Elaine through the girls parents) and had actually had some college under her belt when she came to Vegas in Jan. of 03'. She had lived with Elaine for approximately 6 months when Elaine met/started dating CAS.

[Tom'sGirl]

Elaine believes that is correct, as far as the graduation year and when she met her. The girl in question graduated very young (confirmed by Elaine through the girls parents) and had actually had some college under her belt when she came to Vegas in Jan. of 03'. She had lived with Elaine for approximately 6 months when Elaine met/started dating CAS.

Yes Shannon, she listed PCC (Pacific City College) which one of my family members attended. She was the average age for graduating, 17-18 years old when she graduated in 2001. A couple of years at PCC would put the year to '03.

[DeltaDawn]

One of the things in the discussion with Elaine that stood out to me is her thinking that CAS dating older women wasn't part of his MO. I still beleive it was because it gave him access then to grandchildren and children of friends of the family. And so far that is how he gained access to his vics, through his girlfriends friends and family. I would guess she is in denial about that because she describes him as helpful, charming, manipulative..which describes about every pedo out there who uses family connections in this way. I kind of think she is still in denial , not over rather he did this or not, because she turned him in, but rather the possiblity that he may have been doing this with other young children while she knew him. Certainly Tina's stupidity helped him but I still feel he used these women as a gateway to other children. I don't think these two incidents are the only incidents in his whole life.

[dee10134]

One of the things in the discussion with Elaine that stood out to me is her thinking that CAS dating older women wasn't part of his MO. I still beleive it was because it gave him access then to grandchildren and children of friends of the family. And so far that is how he gained access to his vics, through his girlfriends friends and family. I would guess she is in denial about that because she describes him as helpful, charming, manipulative..which describes about every pedo out there who uses family connections in this way. I kind of think she is still in denial , not over rather he did this or not, because she turned him in, but rather the possiblity that he may have been doing this with other young children while she knew him. Certainly Tina's stupidity helped him but I still feel he used these women as a gateway to other children. I don't think these two incidents are the only incidents in his whole life.

If this was the case, then why didn't he date 20- and 30-somethings who already had young children. Wouldn't that also have put him right in the mix with access to his girlfriends' children and their children's friends and cousins, etc.?

I think he dated older women because they are more likely to be "broken" from previous relationships, desperate to settle down with a man, or just lacking in self-esteem, which seems to be the case in most, if not all, of CAS' girlfriends. Their neediness would make him feel wanted and needed, quite possibly something psychological from his childhood (maybe he felt his mother never wanted him)... Just a thought...

[Tom'sGirl]

I've seen many men & women of questionable backgrounds or lifestyles attach themselves to someone older who may have some form of security such as a home, steady job or other steady source of income.

It all boils down to me at least, that if the opportunity is there for refuge, or free place to stay, the ones of little or no substance will use that opportunity.

On the other hand, those being used often don't realize that the relationship is nothing more than one of convenience only, and the ones using them don't have the mutual feeling for them that they have for them, but somehow feel they do.

[DeltaDawn]

Dee and Tom's Girl,
I see where both of you are in relationship to my theory. But Dee, twenty somethings would not appeal to him because they would not care for him the way an older women would. Meaning probaly not have their own house and income to also support him. An older women would have those things or connections to those things.
An older women who did want a relationship, say mostly on a physical/emotional level, because she could provide for herself and already had done the family thing would appeal to him. They would have no need for him other then his physical and emotionsl company..and could provide through their family and friends endless amounts of small children, not that they would realize that was part of what they were providing him. A younger women would have demanded more emotionally and financially..they would have wanted a roomate/ lover that helped pay the bills. Older women who are self supportive are less inclined to go that route. Attention and seemingly a nice guy would have sufficed for Tina and Elaine I think..both of them had figured out there own financial and emotional relationships by then...basically the guy was a gigolo, looking for access to his needs and and also a peodphile. Which only an older women could provide. Younger women would have expected too much stabilty wise, emotionally and financially from him. More then he was willing to provide.

[Tom'sGirl]

I personally don't have anthing further to add to the discussion of Elaine. She and her Attorney, Conrad Claus, answered in their interview with Shannon most questions we wanted to know the answers to.

Of course not all questions have been answered, but we do know answers to the most important ones as far as her involvement, which was no involvement other than her being a former lover, friend, and an occasional shelter provider for CAS.

I will continue to follow any further interviews Shannon may have with Elaine, in the event she does.

[DeltaDawn]

Agreed Tom's Girl.. their are bigger fish here to fry then Elaine. She did her part in ID'ing him. AND does not need to be futher scrutinzed because she did.

[itsreenw]

I personally don't have anthing further to add to the discussion of Elaine. She and her Attorney, Conrad Claus, answered in their interview with Shannon most questions we wanted to know the answers to.

I don't think the present conversation was about Elaine. It was just mentioned that she thought he had an interest in older women, from what she saw.

Actually. it should be noted that we are taking her word as factual. If you are reading Elaine, it's a compliment to you. We believe you are trustworthy and intelligent. I don't think any of us would take Tina's word if she told us Christmas is in December.

[Tom'sGirl]

I don't think any of us would take Tina's word if she told us Christmas is in December.

We aren't discussing an Interactive Interview with Tina Allen, but rather an Interactive Interview with Elaine Thomas about Chester Stiles.

[allybeemer]

Posted for Elaine, her exact words...

I want to thank you all for your open minds and change of heart in this horrid situation. I tried to create an account on here to post directly to you on a few different occassions, but for some reason, I can't seem to ever get the final administrative approval (yes, I received the email, and clicked the link, but then it says I have to wait to be approved, and that never happend).

I have been as forthcoming as possible with you and everyone that had called in to the radio show. Please let me say, my website and business had absolutely nothing to do with this case. Also, when CAS's son was in the house, I did not "work". Nor would I ever work that line when any child is in the house.

I am a woman who desparately wanted children her entire life. Due to medical problems, I was unable to have them; due to 2 divorces, health and financial hurdles, adoption was also not a viable option. When I see or hear of children being abused in any way, it hurts me to the core.

The saying is, "there is a reason for everything", and maybe my reason for not being able to have children was because of this very incident - I think this was honestly the first time in my life that I was happy I didn't have children of my own and that I didn't expose CAS to mine or anyone else's small children. And maybe the reason I was involved with CAS was because of this incident as well... to be aware of him enough to ID him. I can't honestly say I understand the workings of the universe, so who knows.

I don't know anyone elses involvement in this case for sure, and due to legal ramifications, I cannot discuss my thoughts on the matter. I can answer a few questions a little more fully than I did on the radio show and that have been kicking around here. I know its been speculated here that maybe I have a "several tiered" (to coin a phrase) connection with Darren Tuck - I do not. I do not know him at all, and to my knowledge, neither does anyone else I know. I didn't elaborate on the radio show because there was nothing to elaborate on - I have wracked my brain to try and remember if I had ever met him or heard the name, and I have not.

Just for the record ;) I do not live in Pahrump or in Henderson. I do live in Las Vegas proper. I did live in Pahrump a few years before I met CAS but moved out in 2001. I believe it was stated on one of Tina's interviews that he dated a dominatrix in Pahrump.

Thank you for listening.

Elaine Thomas

[Tom'sGirl]

Posted for Elaine, her exact words...

Thank you ally/Shannon for posting this for Elaine.

ETA: Perhaps ally if you send a PM to our MOD/Administrator she may have some insight as to why Elaine has not received approval as of yet Send a private message to Jeana (DP) (http://websleuths.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=365)

[DeltaDawn]

Yes that is a good idea, because it can take a few days to be given approval to post here. I know it did for me. I hope Elaine will post with us, because her insight into CAS is helpful in understanding this whole chain of events. I am glad to hear that she does' nt know Tuck or anyone in contact with him.

[itsreenw]

Thank you ally/Shannon for posting this for Elaine.

ETA: Perhaps ally if you send a PM to our MOD/Administrator she may have some insight as to why Elaine has not received approval as of yet Send a private message to Jeana (DP) (http://websleuths.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=365)
I second that. And thank you Elaine for opening up and speaking so candidly on such personal subjects. You did not have to be so forthcoming so hats off to you for being here. My heart goes out to you. I cannot have children either, so I know your pain.

I too believe everything happens for a reason. Instead of being the mother to a child you have become the protector of many. Please, realize you have undoubtedly saved children that you don't even know about, from crossing paths with Chester.

[philamena]

Elaine,
If you're reading here a heart felt thank you for doing the right think and alerting LE to the man in the video. For that thousands if not millions are grateful to you.

[DeltaDawn]

Elaine we are tying to get a handle on this whole situation with CAS. Your imput would be extremely helpful. It sounds from the young women's post on your blog that while he was with you that he was trying to better himself in relation to how he treated others. That I am sure is due to your influence in seeing the caring and giving person you are. Why would he give up such a giving peaceful home to grow pot and sell it is beyond me...can you enlighten us on that? As a horrible a childhood as he had, I would think he was still looking for love and acceptance. I know money would be involved in his decision, but it seems like he would never feel comfortable in a normal day to day relationship with a woman. And that may well have been from the abuse her went through as a child.
Elaine, everyone out there, what are your thoughts?

[allybeemer]

Elaine is still trying to get an account activated.. something about being able to trace the IP address and aol not allowing it, nor the other email accounts she has. She tried a new service tonight and hopefully she can get that one going.

[Tom'sGirl]

Elaine is still trying to get an account activated.. something about being able to trace the IP address and aol not allowing it, nor the other email accounts she has. She tried a new service tonight and hopefully she can get that one going.

In the meantime could you ask her if this old case/charge pertain to the same Elaine Thomas being discussed here?

CASE NUMBER 96-C-134953-C

http://courtgate.coca.co.clark.nv.us:8490/DistrictCourt/asp/Charges.asp (http://courtgate.coca.co.clark.nv.us:8490/DistrictCourt/asp/Charges.asp)

[allybeemer]

That case was in 1998, Elaine did not move to Nevada until July of 1999, so no, that is not her.

[Tom'sGirl]

That case was in 1998, Elaine did not move to Nevada until July of 1999, so no, that is not her.

Thank you ally.

[allybeemer]

TomsGirl, I understand your necessity to dig, but why are you trying so hard to villify Elaine? I have it on good authority that she continues to hand over evidence as it comes in to FBI/Clark County. And, if her non-existant criminal past doesn't concern Clark County, I guess I'm trying to understand why you seem to want to drag her down to Tina's level?

Also, if you google the name "Elaine Thomas" you pull up over 47,000 entries. Very few of which are the Elaine we are discussing here. Though the name isn't as common as "John Smith", it is a fairly common name. It stands to reason that there is more than one Elaine Thomas in a city as large as Las Vegas.

[Tom'sGirl]

TomsGirl, I understand your necessity to dig, but why are you trying so hard to villify Elaine? I have it on good authority that she continues to hand over evidence as it comes in to FBI/Clark County. And, if her non-existant criminal past doesn't concern Clark County, I guess I'm trying to understand why you seem to want to drag her down to Tina's level?

Also, if you google the name "Elaine Thomas" you pull up over 47,000 entries. Very few of which are the Elaine we are discussing here. Though the name isn't as common as "John Smith", it is a fairly common name. It stands to reason that there is more than one Elaine Thomas in a city as large as Las Vegas.

I have not Googled Elaine's name, that would be senseless, too many with the same name as you've said.

I have however as most Sleuthers do have run all names mentioned in the Media through the Clark County Records, and elsewhere.

This is not the only case here at WebSleuths where this has been done, not by a long shot.

[allybeemer]

Ok. As you have already surmised, Elaine has become a friend of mine, and I know in my heart of hearts, not only by the things she has told me, but what I've researched and verified on my own, that Elaine is not a criminal, and while she may have a personal life (like the rest of us, I might add) that has nothing whatsoever to do with this case or Chet Stiles, she's entitled to it. Elaine is not, has not and will not be a criminal. Instead, I think you'll find that she is going to be the nail that seals the coffin for Chet Stile's freedom. So, forgive me for being protective, but that's just the way it is. She is the reason he's going away for life.

[Busylady]

Allybeemer, I would say a good percent of us have ran her name through various different sites checking things out thats what we do. It is wonderful that you have had the opportunity to get to know Elaine personally, but we have not. Yes she is entitled to her personal life, but she put herself out in the media therefore she put herself out there to be scrutinized. The industry Elaine has chosen to do for a career does draw questions, because of the type of crime that was committed and because the person who committed that crime and those surrounding him were also involved in that industry, the natural question is do they all tie together that way. She took steps to hide what she does for a career such as shutting down her website, refusing to answer questions regarding it etc, does that make her a bad person or a criminal no but it does raise more questions.

I am thankful Elaine is helping LE with regards to Chet Stiles, and I am sure it has turned her life upside down. But as I said early she chose to do interview after interview just like alot of the Allen family which puts her in the spotlight and under a microscope. As you yourself said why try and put her down on Tina's level, well if we took everything Tina said in her interviews at face value and didnt dig and check things out, we would all be sitting saying poor Tina. I don't think anyone is trying to bring her down to Tina's level just trying to fit all the missing pieces together.

[allybeemer]

To correct a few misconceptions...

1. Elaine did not do the interview circuit willingly at all. Good Morning America had been calling her for an interview for weeks. Someone, most likely Tina, since the day they called the first time, she was interviewing with them, leaked Elaine's name to them. After CAS was caught, they started calling her again almost immediately (within 10 minutes of the news flash). She and Conrad decided to do the interviews in a controlled environment versus having the media knocking on her door.

2. The website is not and was not her career. Elaine is professionally employed in a "regular" day job (which she is currently on medical leave from). She started the website years ago to help cover some medical insurance bills when she was between jobs (many of you may have had to deal with cobra payments before, hers were over 400 a month). Because of Elaine's health issues, it is important for her to have continued health coverage so any pre-existing condition clauses will be addressed.

If you had bothered to look further than her website, to the service that she used (that many use btw.. psychics, accountants, etc...) you would have seen from the feedback she received (by the dates on them - but they are down now), it was never a career, but something she did when she needed extra money. She would take calls for a few weeks, then not take any calls for several months. Her last calls were in early 2007 (I dont know for sure, but maybe paying off some of those charge cards from Christmas).

3. As far as "everyone else" being involved in that business - to her knowledge, none of them had a phone site (if they had, you would have most likely found it by now), most of them, last Elaine knew, are unemployed entirely and living off the taxpayers of Nevada.

4. She does not answer questions about her site or her career because it has NOTHING to do with the case. Her employers know about the site, her parents and grandmother know about the site (all of the above always have, not just since this case). She does not hide that she does it. She maintained the site in case she chooses to do it again and mostly because it costs her almost nothing to keep it up.

However, being scrutinized accross the country because she has the site bothers her when it holds no bearing on the case of CAS. Remember, just because an actor plays a murderer on TV or in a movie, does not mean that they really are a murderer. There is a reason people who work in that line are called "Phone Actresses". What you read on her site is fiction, created to enhance her character, nothing more.

[DeltaDawn]

Allybeamer,
You make good points about Elaine, because as you say, you have personally come to know her. We have not, so just like you do in your investigations, we here have to dig for the information that gives us clues and personal background to figure out where each player fits into the scheme of things. Elaine is not exempt form that scurtiny, nor is anyone else, including M's Mom. We try our best to find out who the true person is..sometimes that requires asking some questions that are personal in nature...but usually we do get to the truth.
I think Elaine has been very truthful here, and she obviously knows we know her profession. I take what she says at face value, and applaud her coming forward to LE and FBI. But I only know that because I have been digging into who she is and what she has done in the past. She has been truthful in this interview, but she did hold things back. That's her choice. I would too in her situation.
Please realize we mean no harm, we're just doing what we need in order to get the facts straight. I still hope Elaine will join us, knowing that we are a curious bunch, but that we do value her truthfulness in the interviews with you. And hope that you and she both can understand the perspective from which we are looking at this.

[CarpeDiem]

Ok. As you have already surmised, Elaine has become a friend of mine, and I know in my heart of hearts, not only by the things she has told me, but what I've researched and verified on my own, that Elaine is not a criminal, and while she may have a personal life (like the rest of us, I might add) that has nothing whatsoever to do with this case or Chet Stiles, she's entitled to it. Elaine is not, has not and will not be a criminal. Instead, I think you'll find that she is going to be the nail that seals the coffin for Chet Stile's freedom. So, forgive me for being protective, but that's just the way it is. She is the reason he's going away for life.

:clap: I agree with much of your post. However, I don't think she "is the reason he's going away for life". I believe the crimes he committed against this precious child are the reason. His actions put him in jail, his actions will be the reason he is never free to harm another. His pride in his accomplishment in victimizing this child, by videotaping it, will put him away without Elaine. But, I applaud her courage and her willingness to work with the prosecution. What she faces in the courtroom from the defense, should it go that far, will not be easy. What she is facing on message boards is barely practice for that. She should be prepared. It's good to know she has friends that will support her.

[dee10134]

Dee and Tom's Girl,
I see where both of you are in relationship to my theory. But Dee, twenty somethings would not appeal to him because they would not care for him the way an older women would. Meaning probaly not have their own house and income to also support him. An older women would have those things or connections to those things.
An older women who did want a relationship, say mostly on a physical/emotional level, because she could provide for herself and already had done the family thing would appeal to him. They would have no need for him other then his physical and emotionsl company..and could provide through their family and friends endless amounts of small children, not that they would realize that was part of what they were providing him. A younger women would have demanded more emotionally and financially..they would have wanted a roomate/ lover that helped pay the bills. Older women who are self supportive are less inclined to go that route. Attention and seemingly a nice guy would have sufficed for Tina and Elaine I think..both of them had figured out there own financial and emotional relationships by then...basically the guy was a gigolo, looking for access to his needs and and also a peodphile. Which only an older women could provide. Younger women would have expected too much stabilty wise, emotionally and financially from him. More then he was willing to provide.

Yeah, but Tina Allen was not the most stable person, emotionally or financially. In a previous post, I believe it was found they were living in subsidized housing at the time of M's attack.

[dee10134]

Elaine is still trying to get an account activated.. something about being able to trace the IP address and aol not allowing it, nor the other email accounts she has. She tried a new service tonight and hopefully she can get that one going.

I had the same problem but emailed the admin and they created the account for me.

[Tom'sGirl]

I had the same problem but emailed the admin and they created the account for me.

I mentioned that to her last Thursday, with the live link to Jeana.
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1760295&postcount=59
Maybe Elaine has decided not to join after all???

[DeltaDawn]

I used Comcast.net email addie and had no problems getting reg..it just took a few hours.

[CarpeDiem]

Frankly, it isn't such a good idea anyway with the case still pending, not even close to trial. It would be one thing if we didn't know whom she was, but I bet everyone will once she does arrive. Perhaps her problems signing up are a little divine intervention, in that she needs to not talk anymore until this case is in front of a judge. If she wants to do the right thing by this child victim and society as a whole, perhaps she should preserve her future testimony about the events she is aware of.

[Tom'sGirl]

Frankly, it isn't such a good idea anyway with the case still pending, not even close to trial. It would be one thing if we didn't know whom she was, but I bet everyone will once she does arrive.

Elaine had another choice when she saw Chet Stiles on the news, she could have called in an anonymous tip, but she contacted her lawyer instead which leads to suspicion in many minds as to why she found need to do so.

Granted she may have been the first to come forward, but I personally don't think she was the only one that did, or would have. If her friend Tina Allen called her, I'm sure others were calling and emailing her also after seeing Stiles face on the news.

The fact that she also chose to do National Media show interviews, she also accepted the offer to do two interviews with Shannon. You don't give interviews because you don't want to be bothered at your residence, that's ridiculous. Now she wants to join in the conversation about the case here at WS, this is definitely not someone who wants to maintain their privacy IMO.

I'm perplexed as to the comment made by Shannon that Elaine "continues to hand over evidence as it comes in to FBI/Clark County" Which leads to the question, what evidence if her relationship with Stiles was nothing more than an affair of the heart on her part, and the generosity she extended to him?

[DeltaDawn]

Agreed, what evidence after she spoke with them and they hauled off his truck, and the neighbor said that he'd been around asking questions prior to his arrest, the FBI checked her computer..what more evidence would there be? More tapes or some other physical evidence..because he is in jail now..so what would there be?

[JWG]

Elaine identified CAS, but is not a material witness to any of the attacks. She may have a lot of insight into his psyche, but that will only help the defense in outlining the case. At the end of the day, unless she is a material witness to the crime or an expert witness, her testimony has little value to either the prosecution or defense. That is not to say her tip did not have value to the police in their investigation, but investigation and prosecution (or defense) are entirely different matters.

[Tom'sGirl]

Elaine identified CAS, but is not a material witness to any of the attacks. She may have a lot of insight into his psyche, but that will only help the defense in outlining the case. At the end of the day, unless she is a material witness to the crime or an expert witness, her testimony has little value to either the prosecution or defense. That is not to say her tip did not have value to the police in their investigation, but investigation and prosecution (or defense) are entirely different matters.

Completely agree JWG!

[itsreenw]

I think it's her inquisitive nature. as it is with many of us. That's what fuels these threads. That's what makes us good sleuths. Thanks for participating in our discussions.

[Indy Gal]

For those who may have misplaced it this is her myspace. Wow how it has changed.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=47904297

[Indy Gal]

. My MYSPACE page has not changed at all..
.
Everything has changed IIRC. Photos, links, blogs, etc... Looking for the cashed(?) version now.

ETA I couldnt get the one I wanted but do know what i saw.

[Indy Gal]

And so do I, wow welcome again Pjay!!

[DeltaDawn]

PJay,
I just know you are going to add so much to our discussions..welcome !
DD

[Jaded]

Welcome, PJay!

[DeltaDawn]

Good night PJay..rest well.

[Jeana (DP)]

Thanks again, all. I know I jumped in here on all 4's, but couldn't help myself. Since this horrible crime took place I've had steam coming out my ears, head, eyes and well, places I never knew steam would escape. Too, the people in this case have had me vomiting all over the place. Elaine is one of those.

I feel in need of a long cold shower.

Good night

Check your messages

[PJay]

Check your messages

Don't wait for the next one. Do it now.

Good bye everyone.

[alpharee]

shortened for space:

To correct a few misconceptions...

However, being scrutinized accross the country because she has the site bothers her when it holds no bearing on the case of CAS. Remember, just because an actor plays a murderer on TV or in a movie, does not mean that they really are a murderer. There is a reason people who work in that line are called "Phone Actresses". What you read on her site is fiction, created to enhance her character, nothing more.
I totally agree with you! Elaine's personal life is just that, PERSONAL. It has absolutely NO bearing on this case. I am so thankful she came forward. And sorry that she's having to defend herself. She shouldn't have to at all.
Some seem to forget, she's NOT on trial here. She's one of the good guys. Kudos to Elaine!!

[Busylady]

Alpharee, Elaine chose to do the media circuit thing, therefore it puts her personal life out there for all to look at. She avoided answering some questions in her interviews which it totally her right but that doesnt mean the questions in our minds stop. You have to remember this case involves a sex crime, we have heard CAS was heavily into sex parties, we have read in Todds journals that he is a dom, we know that Tina and CAS lived with Elaine for a period of time. There is alot of speculation on how Tuck got this tape in the first place. Most of us all saw Elaines website before she went public and alot of us have seen other sites with connection to Elaine as well. So yes her lifestyle will be questioned as people are trying to see how the pieces all fit. I don't feel like anyone was attacking Elaine, but when someone avoids questions, takes down sites, etc it creates more questions of what are you trying to hide so yes questions get asked. The fact that she involved an attorney from the get go also generates questions. Elaine did a great thing in calling the authorities after she recognized him on the television, is she the only one who did so no I don't believe so, but she is the one that has chosen to be very public about it. You can't have it both ways IMO you wanna go public get pats on the back for turning him in, but you don't want anyone to question your connections or the lifestyle which from the surface seems questionable to alot of people.

[alpharee]

going public about a crime/criminal has NOTHING to do with her personal life! and it does not make it alright for everyone to rip her a new one just because she went public! and again ppl were ripping into her BEFORE the interview. I just don't get how some ppl think!

[dee10134]

going public about a crime/criminal has NOTHING to do with her personal life! and it does not make it alright for everyone to rip her a new one just because she went public! and again ppl were ripping into her BEFORE the interview. I just don't get how some ppl think!

I'm with you alpharee!! Some people twist investigating someone's background into a full blown assault on their character.

Some sleuths here are crucifying Elaine only on the basis of coulda, woulda, shoulda's. Like they say, hindsight is 20/20.

Just because she was in a relationship with this man and operated a dominatrix/sex phone line, some of you feel the need to overly analyze her and rip her a new one. I don't believe that Elaine should be crucified because she was in love with CAS at one point in her life or because she ran a sex phone line to supplement her income.

Elaine didn't do ANYTHING wrong. This is NOT her fault. Stop acting as if she's just as guilty in this as CAS.

[dee10134]

Alpharee, Elaine chose to do the media circuit thing, therefore it puts her personal life out there for all to look at. She avoided answering some questions in her interviews which it totally her right but that doesnt mean the questions in our minds stop. You have to remember this case involves a sex crime, we have heard CAS was heavily into sex parties, we have read in Todds journals that he is a dom, we know that Tina and CAS lived with Elaine for a period of time. There is alot of speculation on how Tuck got this tape in the first place. Most of us all saw Elaines website before she went public and alot of us have seen other sites with connection to Elaine as well. So yes her lifestyle will be questioned as people are trying to see how the pieces all fit. I don't feel like anyone was attacking Elaine, but when someone avoids questions, takes down sites, etc it creates more questions of what are you trying to hide so yes questions get asked. The fact that she involved an attorney from the get go also generates questions. Elaine did a great thing in calling the authorities after she recognized him on the television, is she the only one who did so no I don't believe so, but she is the one that has chosen to be very public about it. You can't have it both ways IMO you wanna go public get pats on the back for turning him in, but you don't want anyone to question your connections or the lifestyle which from the surface seems questionable to alot of people.


She has said more than once that the attorney is a very close friend of hers. I confide in my close friends too. So what's your point?

I think she handled everything to the best of her ability.

[Jeana (DP)]

Don't wait for the next one. Do it now.

Good bye everyone.

Done.

Anyone else want to be banned?

[SeriouslySearching]

Done.

Anyone else want to be banned?No...so I deleted my comments. :innocent:

[Indy Gal]

No...so I deleted my comments. :innocent:
I cant:eek: With the 24 hour rule and all. Although I think most were deleted for me, sorry for the extra work Jeana!!

[SeriouslySearching]

OT There are plenty of other boards which are set up to allow you to edit or delete a post ANYTIME. I would recommend this if Tricia ever decides to leave this *cough* lovely server and get something better. : ) The 24 hour thing is so ridiculous.

[Tom'sGirl]

Well from reading elsewhere Ms.Thomas is in shock over this revelation and read it here at WS.

I guess the LE didn't keep her attorney friend informed :)

[DeltaDawn]

Well, well well. Are we surprised at that revelation...I think not.
Also she doesn't know that end of town so to speak, but beleives it is weekly rentals? And theN in the post Susan's name comes up again..things that make you go hm...
Why do Tina and Elaine keep trying to throw all accusations of when things happened with CAS off on Susan...because she isn't there or because they know more and always have?

[itsreenw]

Done.

Anyone else want to be banned? Did I miss something???

[DeltaDawn]

itsreenw, I think PJay asked to be banned by her last comment... because of her comment prior to that which was deleted.

[SeriouslySearching]

Well from reading elsewhere Ms.Thomas is in shock over this revelation and read it here at WS.

I guess the LE didn't keep her attorney friend informed :)What are you referring to? What revelation? :confused:

[dee10134]

Done.

Anyone else want to be banned?

What? Did I miss something here?

[DeltaDawn]

What? Did I miss something here?


Dee see my post a few up from this one, 104 I beleive.

[Jeana (DP)]

OT There are plenty of other boards which are set up to allow you to edit or delete a post ANYTIME. I would recommend this if Tricia ever decides to leave this *cough* lovely server and get something better. : ) The 24 hour thing is so ridiculous.

If you think something needs to be deleted, just PM me the link and I'll take care of it! Thanks.

[itsreenw]

Did Elaine ever share the name of the person she met Stiles through? She said he was a friend of her roommate's boyfriend.

I'd be curious to know this guy's name and what his background contains.

[Tom'sGirl]

Did Elaine ever share the name of the person she met Stiles through? She said he was a friend of her roommate's boyfriend.
I'd be curious to know this guy's name and what his background contains.

No she didn't, maybe because they may still be her friends.

In all, she offered no real insight into the real CAS, but rather the reflection of a woman who was 'smitten' with him back in 2003. It's almost pathetic that she considered him to be some kind of survivalist because he could skin a rabbit :doh:

[Filly]

No she didn't, maybe because they may still be her friends.

In all, she offered no real insight into the real CAS, but rather the reflection of a woman who was 'smitten' with him back in 2003. It's almost pathetic that she considered him to be some kind of survivalist because he could skin a rabbit :doh:

Wait! A Dominatrix considered this guy to be a survivalist because he skinned a rabbit? O.K. then. A smitten Dominatrix? How's that work?

[itsreenw]

LMAO:laugh: No she didn't, maybe because they may still be her friends.

In all, she offered no real insight into the real CAS, but rather the reflection of a woman who was 'smitten' with him back in 2003. It's almost pathetic that she considered him to be some kind of survivalist because he could skin a rabbit :doh:

[SeriouslySearching]

If you think something needs to be deleted, just PM me the link and I'll take care of it! Thanks.Will you go back and change my spelling mistakes, too?! LOL

[DeltaDawn]

This is getting so crazy with everyone who knew him not seeming to really know him..or be willing to admit they did. Tina and Elaine painted a rediculous story for the LE.

The only people who I am interested in hearing from now are Susan, who probably is never coming forward on any talk circuit and the person who rented his rooms for him ...I say person, because all the police said was that the person did not look like him..I don't know that they ever said male or female..and Billy can be a man or women's name..I know a girl would usually use an IE at the end instead of y...but all the police said was the individual did not resemble Stiles. Just a thought to consider.

[Filly]

This is getting so crazy with everyone who knew him not seeming to really know him..or be willing to admit they did. Tina and Elaine painted a rediculous story for the LE.

The only people who I am interested in hearing from now are Susan, who probably is never coming forward on any talk circuit and the person who rented his rooms for him ...I say person, because all the police said was that the person did not look like him..I don't know that they ever said male or female..and Billy can be a man or women's name..I know a girl would usually use an IE at the end instead of y...but all the police said was the individual did not resemble Stiles. Just a thought to consider.

Curses on those unisex names. BillieK, and Billie J who live in Vegas I think are women. One in the same people. However I don't know if they are related to this Billy. The one in Pahrump is Billie, but was born in 1932??????? Actually I like traditional guys names for females. I know O/T had to say that.