Stacy Ann Peterson, Bolingbrook IL Part 3

[mssheila]

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[Littledeer]

Thank you msshelia

That was the word I couldn't come up with! Man hole cover or sewer cover. Probably not where they found something, but it was a thought.

reen brought up about companies that are/were owned by DP and/or other family members. Hopefully, those places are being searched/investigated by either the LE or Tim's team!

[calidreamin]

Brit Stacy didn't work she stayed home to take care of her 2 kids and the 2 kids from wife #3. Her aunt said that is why her running off with another man is such a joke. With the kids and the house and a husband who followed her 24/7 there was no way she could have had a boyfriend.

[mssheila]

In case anyone hasn't seen this on thread #2, Greta Van Susteren's blog is up to the minute coverage on what's going on at DP's house.

Greta Wire:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/otr-producer-steph-watts-on-the-phone-right-now/

[Littledeer]

Stacy appears to have been a hands on Mom every second and a devoted wife until she was capable of understanding that the marriage was not a normal marriage.

From the email she sent to her friend Cesare, she had realized that being in a controlling manipulative relationship was not healthy, not only for her, but also for the children.

Unfortunately, we know what the end result was.

[BritDees]

Thanks, Cali, then I'm thinking he knew she what she said to her friend Cesare! I wouldn't put it past him to be able to have some sort of program to find out what she was saying on the net!

I won't get Greta here until 10 est.. any news?

[Littledeer]

shelia

THANKS!!!!! going there now.

[mssheila]

Someone on thread #2 asked when she wrote the email to Cesare. I found a link, and it says it was sent from SP to Cesare on October 17th (of this year). Just over a week before she went missing.


http://www.nowpublic.com/crime/stacey-peterson-victim-divorce-substitute
On Oct. 17, she e-mailed a family friend, expressing concern over her deteriorating relationship with her husband. The e-mail was provided by the friend, Steve Cesare, to the Naperville Sun.

[Littledeer]

shelia:

hmmmmmmmm..........

Went to the link but it was last updated at 5:50 p.m. (EST).

Is there another one that is more updated?? Or is she on right now??

[BritDees]

Someone on thread #2 asked when she wrote the email to Cesare. I found a link, and it says it was sent from SP to Cesare on October 17th (of this year). Just over a week before she went missing.


http://www.nowpublic.com/crime/stacey-peterson-victim-divorce-substitute
On Oct. 17, she e-mailed a family friend, expressing concern over her deteriorating relationship with her husband. The e-mail was provided by the friend, Steve Cesare, to the Naperville Sun.


Thank you, Mssheila! Now why doesn't it surprise me that she went missing a week later???

[mssheila]

Stacy appears to have been a hands on Mom every second and a devoted wife until she was capable of understanding that the marriage was not a normal marriage.

From the email she sent to her friend Cesare, she had realized that being in a controlling manipulative relationship was not healthy, not only for her, but also for the children.

Unfortunately, we know what the end result was.

Was anyone here a young mother at age 23? I was at the exact same stage in my life as Stacy is now when I was 23. We both were newly married to an older man (my hubby is only 10 years older)... She just had 2 kids and has stepchildren- I did too. I remember how overwhelmed I was and how quickly I grew up.

When you get married and have children so young, and there is no time for just the husband and wife to enjoy alone.. you learn things about your spouse very quickly. I think our poor Stacy learned that she had made a very bad choice in marrying DP. I feel so badly for her. I wish she had gotten out. She was very smart, however, for telling everyone who would listen that if anything happened to her, it was DREW who did it. It seems that there is no question in anyone's mind.

She also kept a log/journal of all their arguments (I cannot remember where I read that)... I sure hope to God the police have that journal. That information in her own words will speak volumes at trial.

[i.b.nora]

from GretaWire by Greta Van Susteren

BREAKING NEWS: OTR Producer Steph Watts just called me and said “cops are swirling all over Sgt. Peterson’s house…something is happening…I will get right back to you.”

I’m standing outside the peterson house cops surrounding house…. Back and front… Steph is inside sharrons

They are going in w/ garage code…

They are screaming police… They are closing garage door but they are still inside garage

I can see them using flashlights inside his house

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[BritDees]

I so agree with you, Mssheila! I also hope they found that journal!

PS...I had my first child when I was 23 but no stepchildren. I had a full-time job and was totally overwhelmed. (But then I look back and realize I was quite naive at that age compared to 23 year old's now! lol)

[SuziQ]

Nora, thank you! WTH is going on?

No live feeds yet, btw.

[calidreamin]

from GretaWire by Greta Van Susteren

BREAKING NEWS: OTR Producer Steph Watts just called me and said “cops are swirling all over Sgt. Peterson’s house…something is happening…I will get right back to you.”

I’m standing outside the peterson house cops surrounding house…. Back and front… Steph is inside sharrons

They are going in w/ garage code…

They are screaming police… They are closing garage door but they are still inside garage

I can see them using flashlights inside his house

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

Gosh I hope they update soon!

[mssheila]

Her blog is hard to navigate. It sounds like they went in using the garage code, were looking for him, but could not find him at home. They walked out the front door, and the door is hanging wide open.

This coverage is fantastic!

[Spazkat9696]

I hope the kids aren't there

[SuziQ]

another email from OTR Producer Cory Howard
From: Howard, Cory
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:21 PM
To: Cooper, Meade; Van Susteren, Greta; Watts, Stephen
Subject: Re:
A police officer just came out the front door of petersons house… Door is wide open

[SuziQ]

I can't find that??? About flashlights in the house, etc...

It's here http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

Sorry the fonts defaulted to that website

[mssheila]

Comment by Greta Van Susteren[/URL]
[URL="http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/breaking-news-3/#comment-55780"]November 6th, 2007 at 9:24 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/breaking-news-3/#comment-55780) so much seems to be happening…Greta

[Littledeer]

Just Bring Dp Out With No Kids Hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[mssheila]

I hope the kids aren't there

Sounds like no one is there. Man, I hope they didn't lose him!

[SuziQ]

A couple of commenters speculate, I repeat, speculate suicide.

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
WFLD says it is a search warrant being executed right now at Sgt. Peterson’s house….we have not confirmed that it is a search warrant and not an arrest warrant…but right now one news organization says it is a search warrant.

[calidreamin]

A couple of commenters speculate, I repeat, speculate suicide.

That ran thru my mind too. Purely speculation but who knows.

[mssheila]

I pray there is no suicide. He needs to wait for the state to kill him! :furious: :furious:

[Littledeer]

SNIP,

I was reading on Greta's blog site where someone was commenting that they thought perhaps Stacey might have been involved with #3's death. I don't believe that for a NY second. I think Drew manipulated Stacey with every word he spoke.

Pure rubbish!!!

[SuziQ]

Hmmm, not sure le would bust in for a search warrant. I'm thinking/hoping arrest warrant.

[calidreamin]

SNIP,

I was reading on Greta's blog site where someone was commenting that they thought perhaps Stacey might have been involved with #3's death. I don't believe that for a NY second. I think Drew manipulated Stacey with every word he spoke.

Pure rubbish!!!




Rubbish is right Littledeer, I think she was just taken in by him.

[mssheila]

I'm thinking that they were there earlier trying to get him to let them in the house. He refused their entry. 2 cops stay in the driveway, and then the others come back and enter through the garage. Sounds like they had to go get a warrant.

[i.b.nora]

He is not in the house.

[SuziQ]

From: Watts, Stephen
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:36 PM
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade; Howard, Cory
Subject: Drew ius not in the house
Rick said he just called him to go close up the house after the cops were done. Please twell furhman cory. I’m on my way to ric

[Littledeer]

Aw...........no suicide please!! I want him in jail..................that will be one kind of he** for a cop to be at.

What goes around comes around double fold.

[englishleigh]

A couple of commenters speculate, I repeat, speculate suicide.

I'm thinking that, too, and praying those babies are not there.

[calidreamin]

Hmmm, not sure le would bust in for a search warrant. I'm thinking/hoping arrest warrant.
I know don't they ring the bell at a search warrent and then tell the person who answers police we have a search warrent? That's how they do it on tv anyway LOL.

[englishleigh]

He is not in the house.


He has gone on the run, IMO.

[Spazkat9696]

He is not in the house.


You'd figure they were watching him and would have know he wasn't home. :doh:

[Littledeer]

of course he's not in the house. He got tipped off earlier when the cops first showed up with papers in their hands. For pete's sake people, he is a COP himself. He knows how it works.

I think that was not a smart move on the LE's part. IMHO

[calidreamin]

He has gone on the run, IMO.

Oh I hope not! I thought if the police have a murder suspect they follow him. I have seen them do that in other cases.

[mssheila]

SuziQ- why can't I see that on her page? Could you post links to where you're updating? I am having a heckuva time getting the updates.

[SuziQ]

NOTE: AT 9:45PM, ON OUR INTERNET SHOW, WE WILL TALK DIRECTLY TO OUR PRODUCER ON THE SCENE IN FRONT OF SGT. DREW PETERSON’S HOUSE…GO TO YOUR LAPTOP AND WATCH..
From: Watts, StephenSent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:36 PMTo: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade; Howard, Cory Subject: Drew ius not in the houseRick said he just called him to go close up the house after the cops were done. Please twell furhman cory. I’m on my way to ric
****
From: Howard, CorySent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:38 PMTo: Cooper, Meade; Van Susteren, Greta; Watts, StephenSubject:
Another police just walked out of the house from front door he’s going in his trunk… He went back in w/ something in his bag… Police has camera in his hand…

[mssheila]

NOTE: AT 9:45PM, ON OUR INTERNET SHOW, WE WILL TALK DIRECTLY TO OUR PRODUCER ON THE SCENE IN FRONT OF SGT. DREW PETERSON’S HOUSE…GO TO YOUR LAPTOP AND WATCH..
From: Watts, StephenSent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:36 PMTo: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade; Howard, Cory Subject: Drew ius not in the houseRick said he just called him to go close up the house after the cops were done. Please twell furhman cory. I’m on my way to ric
****
From: Howard, CorySent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:38 PMTo: Cooper, Meade; Van Susteren, Greta; Watts, StephenSubject:
Another police just walked out of the house from front door he’s going in his trunk… He went back in w/ something in his bag… Police has camera in his hand…

Please link~!

[SuziQ]

SuziQ- why can't I see that on her page? Could you post links to where you're updating? I am having a heckuva time getting the updates.


And I didn't see the one you posted either. Here:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

I keep hitting refresh

[BritDees]

If you click on this link, http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html click where it says click here.. you can get the online 15 minute show

[mssheila]

I keep hitting refresh, but it won't work. Grrr! LOL!

This is incredible, almost like being there. Furman is on speaker phone talking to Greta, Bernie and Ted- and he's saying that Drew has dressed people up to look like him in order to throw people off as to his comings and goings.

He's talking about how her DNA should be in the house, and how the police would look for "cleaned up" blood. Bernie says they would have been looking for that first time around. No forensics group with them this time. They had gloves on, but that's SOP. This is a search warrant. Smacks of something very specific. They didn't expect him to be there. This is not nearly as dramatic as it sounded to be before.

Ted talking to Mark now:

[Littledeer]

okay, I keep hitting refresh and getting nothing.

Any one here to help out on what is going on now???

[Littledeer]

What a sleaze.............dressing up people to look like him. Who the heck were those people?? Did he buy off people by not booking them if they would pay him back later?? That smacks of PREMEDITATION!!!!!

[mssheila]

Greta: Sounds like police went to neighbors and got the code for the door.

Mark: Sounds like they're looking for something small and specific to "complete the puzzle".

Greta: Sounds like they're fishing. Keep going back until they find something.

Mark: Maybe there are fresh eyes looking this time. Maybe they understand what occured in that room. I've been going over that 2004 incident, and it's surely a homicide.

Greta: You're going to talk about that on the air tonight shortly, so I'm going to let you go now.

Bernie: Judge will say this is the last time you're going to get into that house.

Greta: Female voice on speaker phone, and greta says "Oh you have the maid?"... We're going to shut off the internet, and we'll see you at 10 Eastern, On The Record.

[SuziQ]

nothing new.

[Littledeer]

Wife #3's death had darn well BE REINVESTIGATED!!!!!!

[BritDees]

and why didn't they take the freaking computer with a search warrent??

It's off air now..go to your tv's...

[Littledeer]

What is on the record as Greta said for 10:00 p.m.?

[SuziQ]

Greta is going to interview Drew's maid? That ought to be very interesting! Unless she's scared of him too. Who are the yahoos dressing up in disquise?

[mssheila]

Greta's Show:

Breaking News Alert.

Fuhrman going over events. "Entered home, very low key".... Declared who they were, went in, a couple officers outside, on all 4 corners, and a couple detectives inside. One detective had a camera. Had an evidence envelope, came out and got a box to collect evidence. Mark thinks this is the 5th, 6th, 7th search warrant they've served. DP called his buddy, Rick, and told him to secure the house when the police were done. No Forensics van today. Just SOP with the gloves, etc..

Taking something out right now. Large black bag, can't tell what it is. Also 16X20" envelope. 2 detectives going to the neighbors house (probably to return door opener)... Winding down right now. Not re-entering the house, not going to.

[SuziQ]

Fox Chicago WFLD won't open for me right now. Are they getting slammed?

[mssheila]

.....On The Record..... Continued.

Later, Mark talks about speaking to coroner about wife #3.

Greta talks to Ric Mims: DP talks to Ric at 1PM this afternoon, and DP was there at the time. RM says he was calling so that he could go to get the 'rest of my stuff out'.. He said that DP said he wanted him to secure house when police left. Ric doesn't know where DP is now. He just asked him whether he was safe.

**Interesting** Ric says that he can't comment on whether he has any suspicions.

He sort of makes a short laugh... says it's a tough situation to be in, DP is a good friend of his, but as time goes by everyone has their suspicions.

Greta: Do you have any suspicions? MIMS: I can't comment on that right now.

[mssheila]

Greta: Has he given you any reason to think he's waiting on a phone call or waiting to hear from her.

MIms: I have my own opinion, but he's not given me a reason to think anything other than 'she ran off'. He hasn't seen DP physically since Saturday. Pleads to search nationwide.

Greta to Tim, TES: No clues that really mean anything were found. Ran out of daylight. Weather and conditions were hard on them today. More air support, horses and people tomorrow. A lot of sonar equipment in the water. Wants to hold onto hope that she's alive, but we also know that if something did happen, the quicker she's found, the more evidence there will be.

[itsreenw]

On Greta right now...
Police got garage remote from the neighbor and just entered home with a camera w/telescopic lens. Hands on guns. They are taking a large black bag, large envelope- looks thick. Took a collapsible cardboard box in.

DP called the neighbor and said when the cops leave his house to go secure it.

They mentioned DP just called a neighbor and told them when the police get out of his house to go secure it.

Greta asked the neighbor, Rick, when he last heard from DP and he said 1pm.

Greta told Rick they knew he'd just called one of the neighbors to tell them to lock up. She asked if it was Rick that DP called. He said "yes, it was me". She said "so then when is the last time you talked to him?" He said "uh,uh (stuttering) 20 minutes ago"

The neighbor, Rick seems like he's covering up. Or he's scared of DP, too.

[itsreenw]

Thanks MsSheila for the thorough update. Was trying to watch, type and answer the phone at the same time. LOL

[mssheila]

On Greta right now...
Police got garage remote from the neighbor and just entered home with a camera w/telescopic lens. Hands on guns. They are taking a large black bag, large envelope- looks thick. Took a collapsible cardboard box in.

DP called the neighbor and said when the cops leave his house to go secure it.

They mentioned DP just called a neighbor and told them when the police get out of his house to go secure it.

Greta asked the neighbor, Rick, when he last heard from DP and he said 1pm.

Greta told Rick they knew he'd just called one of the neighbors to tell them to lock up. She asked if it was Rick that DP called. He said "yes, it was me". She said "so then when is the last time you talked to him?" He said "uh,uh (stuttering) 20 minutes ago"

The neighbor, Rick seems like he's covering up. Or he's scared of DP, too.


It seems to me that Ric has learned something today that has shaken him up. Bigtime. He's very hesitant in his support, but it sounds like he feels like he HAS to support him until he can't anymore. Definitely my impression, but I'm pretty good at reading people. His words of support were hollow, and his "suspicions" sounded more guarded, yet against Drew each time he was asked.

[BarnGoddess]

What is on the record as Greta said for 10:00 p.m.?

Help me out here, the BarnGod insists on watching wrestling, so I can't get Great until it's repeated at 11:00 MT. Is her show over or will she have an updated version on the repeat?

We get at Mountain Time: O'Reilley at 6, Hannity & Colmes at 7, Greta at 8. Greta's rerun at 11.

[mssheila]

Help me out here, the BarnGod insists on watching wrestling, so I can't get Great until it's repeated at 11:00 MT. Is her show over or will she have an updated version on the repeat?

We get at Mountain Time: O'Reilley at 6, Hannity & Colmes at 7, Greta at 8. Greta's rerun at 11.

Greta's repeat will be the exact same show as the one that is on now.

[Littledeer]

I just saw "Headlines" here on the East Coast and they had the Stacey Peterson case on. Showed police going in and out............the moderator (I don't know the female's name) was taking calls and had someone on who said how they could find exterminating evidence on Wife #3's body once exhumed. Another reporter said that DP was not in the house at any time. Also, the original reason for the police showing up was to interview the kids.

Please keep up on any other information.

[mssheila]

Police Chief conversation part 2. Talking about Wife # 3:

Have you seen the autopsy report?

PC: yes. I was the first Bolingbrook Police OFficer to see this report. STATE POLICE handled her investigation.

[mysteriew]

so is it thought he has the kids with him?

[BarnGoddess]

Greta's repeat will be the exact same show as the one that is on now.
Thanks, Mssheila. I appreciate your help. I will watch the repeat as I do most nights.

[mssheila]

The report has piqued his interest, and there are questions that need to be answered. He agrees with Greta and Dr Baden. He's somewhat concerned and he wants to get some answers.

I'm going to go watch now- I want to see people's faces while they talk. I can transcribe later.

[SuziQ]

Thank you Sheila!

[mysteriew]

Thank you MsSheila!

[Littledeer]

shelia said:

It seems to me that Ric has learned something today that has shaken him up. Bigtime

I noticed that too!!!! Wonder what it was??? Did DP say something that made Ric go hmmmmmmmmmmmm. That wasn't what you said before. Maybe Ric is now just realizing how DP controls and lies???

[mysteriew]

Ok, they said they were looking for something small.

A weapon they didn't find?
Previously I read that they were looking for her journal, and have never heard if they found it. Did they go back for that?

[Littledeer]

thanks msshelia. We will be waiting.

[itsreenw]

OH, now they are talking about Kathleen's autopsy.

I see how Kathleen's death was determined to be an accident. It wasn't a coroner, it was a coroner's inquest (like a jury) that determined it to be an accident. Everyday citizens listening to evidence.

Well, all the citizens would have come from the town DP lived in. We've heard tales of corruption from the mayor on down, so they may have been scared to say otherwise.

[Littledeer]

Unfortunately by now DP would have destroyed any journal that Stacey might have had. I am sure for the last 9 days he has thoroughly cleaned the house. :(:(

[mssheila]

RIC says he called DP to arrange to "Get the rest of my stuff out" ... as in- I'm moving out of your house Drew. I don't trust you anymore.:woohoo:

[itsreenw]

shelia said:

It seems to me that Ric has learned something today that has shaken him up. Bigtime

I noticed that too!!!! Wonder what it was??? Did DP say something that made Ric go hmmmmmmmmmmmm. That wasn't what you said before. Maybe Ric is now just realizing how DP controls and lies???

I thought the same thing!! His voice was almost going out, like he was forcing the words out. I think Ric is DP's eyes and ears right now.
Ric said he was under the impression that DP was at home at 1pm when they talked. I'm sure he's been peeking out the window all day. He knows where DP is. And if he is the one that helped carry the big container out, I think he's in over his head. He's probably terrified.

[Littledeer]

reen:

Does an inquest jury get to see any autopsy photo's do you know?

[SuziQ]

So what kind of container was it? Where was it moved to? And who helped?

[Spazkat9696]

Why would they storm the house to talk to the kids? If I was a kid that would freak me out heck that would freak me out now.

[SuziQ]

Why would they storm the house to talk to the kids? If I was a kid that would freak me out heck that would freak me out now.

I can't remember the exact words Mark used. But he said it was low key? It doesn't sound low key. It even freaked out Greta's people.

ETA: WFLD's website is still down.

[mysteriew]

Unfortunately by now DP would have destroyed any journal that Stacey might have had. I am sure for the last 9 days he has thoroughly cleaned the house. :(:(

I thought I read he hadn't been back in the house.

[mysteriew]

Police have been saying they knew where Drew was. And he hasn't been staying at the home. So why go there to interview kids? Unless he had appt to meet with them and didn't show maybe?

[Littledeer]

Which brings up more questions if DP has not been at the home. Are we to believe that LE shows up to deliver a search warrant and yet DP is not there, but we see police going in and out of the house.

Does that mean..........DP knew and he called his friend Ric to unlock the door so LE's can get into the house??

Which would make sense for DP t

[Littledeer]

Which brings up more questions if DP has not been at the home. Are we to believe that LE shows up to deliver a search warrant and yet DP is not there, but we see police going in and out of the house.

Does that mean..........DP knew and he called his friend Ric to unlock the door so LE's can get into the house??

Which would make sense for DP telling Ric to secure the house afterwards.

Really strange here!!!!

[Littledeer]

Sorry! Fingers moving too fast and accidently hit enter before I was done with the first post...........

[Littledeer]

reen:

I posted the link for Mr. Murray on the other site for him to come here if he wants.

[mysteriew]

From what I understand they came and didn't go in. Left uniforms there and left. Came back with warrant and did search
Neighbor gave them code to enter through the garage

[Trino]

Why were LE going into the house with hands on their guns? DP called and gave his neighbor the code. Obviously, he wasn't home. And, it doesn't appear they were trying to arrest him.

[Littledeer]

myster:

but here is what I was responding to:

snip from msshelia:

He said that DP said he wanted him to secure house when police left.

He, meaning Ric the next door neighbor. Which IMO meant DP knew that the police were going to be there and from what you posted, this neighbor gave code to enter the house. (I bet DP told him to do so because he believed that they would not find anything). Does anyone know the last time that DP was in the house??

I did say previoulsy that as a cop, he would know how to clean up evidence. But I am hoping he missed something!

(Trust me, I had other words, but edited so that the moderators wouldn't kick me out) :)

[SuziQ]

Dzdork @11:11PM posted an interesting comment here from another site I won't name ;)

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/more-emails-from-outside-sgt-petersons-home-from-otr-producers/#comments

somebody wrote;
Mike on November 6th, 2007 5:40 pm
I have lived in Bolingbrook many years ago. Back then in the 70s drew molested my sister. So I know he has a problem.

[mysteriew]

Oh, ok.

I just want to know if the kids are safe.

[SuziQ]

In response to dzdorks post at gretawire:

Comment by LJT[/URL]
[URL="http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/more-emails-from-outside-sgt-petersons-home-from-otr-producers/#comment-56148"]November 6th, 2007 at 11:24 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/more-emails-from-outside-sgt-petersons-home-from-otr-producers/#comment-56148) Wow dzdork.. Thats powerful.. I wonder if it was reported and how he obviously got out of that? The guy is a sexual predator and Pedofile to boot.. it is haping up that way,, if what is being reported is true, I wonder if the Stae Police have taken to that poster? I have been waiting for alot of victims to come out and sumized that is why he wore that Bandana..

[SuziQ]

Did one of Drew's wives die of natural causes?!!! If true, bet me!

Again posted at gretawire:

Comment by Lisa S.
November 6th, 2007 at 11:36 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/more-emails-from-outside-sgt-petersons-home-from-otr-producers/#comment-56169) To Dzork (comment 11:11) I’m sorry that happened to your sister, I’m wondering if it was ever reported. He is certainly a womanizer, and I question the police for keeping him on 29 years. Four wives, one missing and 1 found dead, one died of natural causes, I guess wife #2 was lucky..I hope. One out of four…she must feel lucky.

[itsreenw]

Why were LE going into the house with hands on their guns? DP called and gave his neighbor the code. Obviously, he wasn't home. And, it doesn't appear they were trying to arrest him.
They got the garage remote, went in through the garage. They didn't storm the house but they did go in prepared (hands on guns, flashlights out). They got what they needed, and took the remote back to the neighbor. I think Ric is calling DP whenever something is happening at the house to give him a heads-up.

I don't think they went there to talk to the kids at that point. Seems they returned with a warrant.

[philamena]

thanks everyone for the great updates.

[mysteriew]

Irregardless of what is going on with Drew and with LE, the fact remains that Stacy is still missing. Which means that volunteers and equipment are still needed. Only 40 searchers showed up yesterday. Many more are desperately needed! The search can also use water and food for the volunteers. Boats, horses and ATV's are needed. It takes a little of your time, but it means a lot for a desperate family.

If you are close and if you can help please volunteer for this search!

Search headquarters

Westbrook Christian Church
1175 Lilly Cashe Lane
Bollingbrook, IL

8 am

Thank you!

[mysteriew]

Describes the search and a brief mention of sites they want to take a closer look at, including a construction site. Disappointment in the number of volunteers who showed up. This article says 50 showed up, but the number is less than yesterday. Tim compared a recent Ohio search where he said 1,800 volunteered.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_web1nov07,0,2282497.story?coll=chi_home_u til

The search warrant, but doesn't give any details
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/638155,bolingupdate110607.article

[dottierainbow]

His friend got caught in a lie. Greta 1st asked Rick when was the last time you talked to Drew? He said 1 p.m. Then later Greta said we know Drew just talked with a neighbor to secure the house when police are done. Rick says that it was him he talked to. So it looks like Rick will lie to cover up for Drew. I also wonder what else he has done for Drew.
On Greta right now...
Police got garage remote from the neighbor and just entered home with a camera w/telescopic lens. Hands on guns. They are taking a large black bag, large envelope- looks thick. Took a collapsible cardboard box in.

DP called the neighbor and said when the cops leave his house to go secure it.

They mentioned DP just called a neighbor and told them when the police get out of his house to go secure it.

Greta asked the neighbor, Rick, when he last heard from DP and he said 1pm.

Greta told Rick they knew he'd just called one of the neighbors to tell them to lock up. She asked if it was Rick that DP called. He said "yes, it was me". She said "so then when is the last time you talked to him?" He said "uh,uh (stuttering) 20 minutes ago"

The neighbor, Rick seems like he's covering up. Or he's scared of DP, too.

[Mygirlsadie]

Hmm I never heard about that before either..very interesting if true. As for the comment about the police keeping DP on the force I have been asking myself the same question.





Did one of Drew's wives die of natural causes?!!! If true, bet me!

Again posted at gretawire:

Comment by Lisa S.
November 6th, 2007 at 11:36 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/06/more-emails-from-outside-sgt-petersons-home-from-otr-producers/#comment-56169) To Dzork (comment 11:11) I’m sorry that happened to your sister, I’m wondering if it was ever reported. He is certainly a womanizer, and I question the police for keeping him on 29 years. Four wives, one missing and 1 found dead, one died of natural causes, I guess wife #2 was lucky..I hope. One out of four…she must feel lucky.

[Littledeer]

Reiterating myster's pleas for more volunteers today in the search. If you can spare even one hour, that would be great!!

Mr. Murray will also be at the search site today according to his post on the other forum he started.

[mssheila]

Why were LE going into the house with hands on their guns? DP called and gave his neighbor the code. Obviously, he wasn't home. And, it doesn't appear they were trying to arrest him.

They had their hand on their guns out of habit- AND on the off chance there was someone unwanted there. That's my best guess :confused:

[mssheila]

We need to get one thing clear. I didn't think that Ric Mims was a neighbor- I thought he was just a friend of Drew's. Otherwise, why would he need to stay at his house? Does anyone know?

[Littledeer]

Jim Murray gave me permission to bring his posts over here for everyone to read that don't know about his forum site. (If this is breaking any rules here, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!)

"Good Morning all .

As searchers we really do not know where we are going until we arrive and get briefed.
It is possible that we may search a construction site today.

Please pray for the family and especially Stacy's children.

Pray that Drew Peterson be man enough to fess up to what he knows or if in fact he in not a suspect like the media claims, He should be helping with the search.

If he is not a suspect why would they be searching his house ?

If law enforcement agency's want respect they need to stop murdering people and covering it up.

I'll be back after the search .

Later ,

Jim"

His next post said he was leaving now to go to the church and will give us any news when he gets back today.

[Littledeer]

msshelia:

I need to go to work, but I beleive it was said in Thread 1 that Ric was a neighbor of DP. Hopefully, someone will find it before I get back this evening. If not, I'll do a search.

HOPEFULLY, when I get back tonight DP is in custody and Stacy will have been found and all the kids will be safe!!!!

Have a good day everyone!!!

[SuziQ]

msshelia:

I need to go to work, but I beleive it was said in Thread 1 that Ric was a neighbor of DP. Hopefully, someone will find it before I get back this evening. If not, I'll do a search.

HOPEFULLY, when I get back tonight DP is in custody and Stacy will have been found and all the kids will be safe!!!!

Have a good day everyone!!!

I thought Ric was just a friend as well. But it would make sense that he is a neighbor. That overshot of him going in and out of the next door house makes sense now. You know the shot of him talking over the backyard fence to LE?

I wish there was a way to confirm the natural cause death of one of Drews wives.

ETA: Maybe Jim can find out for us? And specifically what the COD is.

[SuziQ]

Remember how Drew made such a point to mention that he met Stacey at the motel she worked at? In the Cnn.com video linked below, John Roberts discusses and Stacey's aunt nods in agreement. That Drew dated Stacey's older sister. So how well did Drew know their mother?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/06/intv.missing.woman.aunt.cnn

ETA: And how old was Stacey really when Drew met her?

[dee10134]

so is it thought he has the kids with him?

In one of the prior threads, someone said his 26 year old son has the children.

[dee10134]

reen:

Does an inquest jury get to see any autopsy photo's do you know?

From what I understand, a coroner's jury gets to see EVERYTHING, ALL details big and small of the death. They are the ones that make the determination (murder or not) when the death is deemed "suspicious."

[dee10134]

I was listening to the radio (WLUP 97.9 FM Chicago) this morning. There's a morning show, Brandmeier in the Mornings, that comes on that station.

Apparently yesterday he had a Native American clairvoyant, Owen Strong Bear (I think he's from Nevada), who claimed to know where Stacey was. That she never left the Chicagoland area and that she had an urgent need to get away from a "maniac." He mentioned something about her being strangled 3 times. He also said he saw the word "Jewel." There's a bunch of Jewel grocery stores in Bolingbrook, but there's one on the northern side of Clow, about 2 miles from the house. I don't know if there's one closer or not. He also said she was 15 feet into the woods and near a pond......

Now, I am not really a believer in psychics or clairvoyants, but it would be very interesting to see how all of this pans out. Considering all of the information already given out in this case, it would be pretty easy to "fake" a clairvoyant reading, BUT he would not give any details over the radio until he spoke to Stacey's sister. Apparently after he spoke with her, he called Johnny B back and left him a voice mail last night with the details I described above.

[kinsey milhoune]

I was listening to the radio (WLUP 97.9 FM Chicago) this morning. There's a morning show, Brandmeier in the Mornings, that comes on that station.

Apparently yesterday he had a Native American clairvoyant, Owen Strong Bear (I think he's from Nevada), who claimed to know where Stacey was. That she never left the Chicagoland area and that she had an urgent need to get away from a "maniac." He mentioned something about her being strangled 3 times. He also said he saw the word "Jewel." There's a bunch of Jewel grocery stores in Bolingbrook, but there's one on the northern side of Clow, about 2 miles from the house. I don't know if there's one closer or not. He also said she was 15 feet into the woods and near a pond......

Now, I am not really a believer in psychics or clairvoyants, but it would be very interesting to see how all of this pans out. Considering all of the information already given out in this case, it would be pretty easy to "fake" a clairvoyant reading, BUT he would not give any details over the radio until he spoke to Stacey's sister. Apparently after he spoke with her, he called Johnny B back and left him a voice mail last night with the details I described above.

I do believe some people get "messages" and I don't think it's all fake. There are true psychics, I've had it happen to me. Some people are more open to recieve them than others.

That is a HUGE clue the "jewel". Could be Jewel Grocery stores or even something about the diamond DP had supposedly given SP for their anniversary. The ponds is a given, there are so many by all the subdivisions in the area, but the 'jewel' clue may help police.

[calidreamin]

Remember how Drew made such a point to mention that he met Stacey at the motel she worked at? In the Cnn.com video linked below, John Roberts discusses and Stacey's aunt nods in agreement. That Drew dated Stacey's older sister. So how well did Drew know their mother?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/06/intv.missing.woman.aunt.cnn

ETA: And how old was Stacey really when Drew met her?

I remember that as well Suzi. I think Stacey was much younger when he met her but was so insistant on it being 17 so he wouldn't get in trouble. Also with everything coming out about this creep I wouldn't be at all surprised if he helped the mom dissapear. JMO of course.

[dee10134]

I do believe some people get "messages" and I don't think it's all fake. There are true psychics, I've had it happen to me. Some people are more open to recieve them than others.

That is a HUGE clue the "jewel". Could be Jewel Grocery stores or even something about the diamond DP had supposedly given SP for their anniversary. The ponds is a given, there are so many by all the subdivisions in the area, but the 'jewel' clue may help police.

According to the radio, "Strong Bear" was in touch with Stacey's sister BEFORE the info was released on the radio, so we'll see where the searchers go today.....

[kinsey milhoune]

According to the radio, "Strong Bear" was in touch with Stacey's sister BEFORE the info was released on the radio, so we'll see where the searchers go today.....


There was a psychic on the Scott Peterson case, she had a website & actually had voice recordings of talking to the dead. Can't remember her name, lost all of that when my computer crashed, but anyway, she was right on as to where Laci was.

I was hoping they'd enlist the help of psychics, time is of the essence if they want fresh evidence.

[calidreamin]

There was a psychic on the Scott Peterson case, she had a website & actually had voice recordings of talking to the dead. Can't remember her name, lost all of that when my computer crashed, but anyway, she was right on as to where Laci was.

I was hoping they'd enlist the help of psychics, time is of the essence if they want fresh evidence.

I remember this well, she was completely right as to where Lacey was. I hope they find her today, time is of the essence.

[dee10134]

There is a Jewel at 1200 W Boughton in Bolingbrook. This is the Jewel is on the northern edge of Clow Airport. There's a large wooded area and park with a waterway going thought it. The park is called Indian Boundary Park.

I Google Mapped the area and it appears that there's an access road to enter the park from N Weber Road/N Naperville Road, just north of the Jewel store. There's a clearing at the end of the "road" and a wooded area there.

[curiositycat]

What a BIG RED FLAG that he is hidden somewhere and not helping in the investigation.

My second point this morning is that it was interesting on Greta to see the best friend goof up(LIE) on Greta. First he said that Drew was in the home and he was going over to get some of "his things". He said Drew told him that there were media everywhere and to come over later. Then he said that Drew told him to lock up the police ater the police left last night. Then he said "I don't know where he is" Possibly but.....he did say at first that Drew was in the house.

[nanandjim]

MsSheila - Will you please have the mods lock the old thread before starting a new one? It gets very confusing. Thanks. :blowkiss:

[calidreamin]

There is a Jewel at 1200 W Boughton in Bolingbrook. This is the Jewel is on the northern edge of Clow Airport. There's a large wooded area and park with a waterway going thought it. The park is called Indian Boundary Park.

I Google Mapped the area and it appears that there's an access road to enter the park from N Weber Road/N Naperville Road, just north of the Jewel store. There's a clearing at the end of the "road" and a wooded area there.

I hope they check there today Dee, the sooner Stacey is found the better.

[calidreamin]

What a BIG RED FLAG that he is hidden somewhere and not helping in the investigation.

My second point this morning is that it was interesting on Greta to see the best friend goof up(LIE) on Greta. First he said that Drew was in the home and he was going over to get some of "his things". He said Drew told him that there were media everywhere and to come over later. Then he said that Drew told him to lock up the police ater the police left last night. Then he said "I don't know where he is" Possibly but.....he did say at first that Drew was in the house.I noticed him choke up too curiositycat! I was watching and you could tell he was flustered. First, he can't keep his facts straight and I also noticed that he didn't sound at all like he believed that drew hasn't done something to Stacy.

[Taximom]

What a BIG RED FLAG that he is hidden somewhere and not helping in the investigation.

My second point this morning is that it was interesting on Greta to see the best friend goof up(LIE) on Greta. First he said that Drew was in the home and he was going over to get some of "his things". He said Drew told him that there were media everywhere and to come over later. Then he said that Drew told him to lock up the police ater the police left last night. Then he said "I don't know where he is" Possibly but.....he did say at first that Drew was in the house.

OMG, I caught that too! Whoops on the part of Drew's close buddy! :loser: Drew was probably throwing a fit somewhere. :doh: Hopefully Drew is as intelligent as this guy. :silenced:

When did you last talk to him? Oh, uh, 1:00. (5 minutes later.) When did last hear from him? Oh, uh, about 20 minutes ago. ROFL ROFL Sorry. I know this is serious, but that made my night.

With friends like that, someone needs a good defense attorney.

By the way, Greta, YOU ROCK. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Taximom]

In one of the prior threads, someone said his 26 year old son has the children.

Just to clarify, I think I read that his oldest son has the children from the Savio marriage. I haven't heard where Stacy's babies are. It sounded like they were with him.

Can you imagine meeting the needs of two very young children while trying to deflect attention from himself? Someone has to be helping him. I hope they are ok. :(

[fundiva]

SNIP,

I was reading on Greta's blog site where someone was commenting that they thought perhaps Stacey might have been involved with #3's death. I don't believe that for a NY second. I think Drew manipulated Stacey with every word he spoke.

Pure rubbish!!!



I don't think Stacey was involved in #3's death, but I think somewhere along the line she realized DP was. Maybe he threatened her saying she would end up just like the ex. If SP decided to leave and had it out with her husband she might have threatened to spill the beans at which point DP decided to just get rid of the entire situation.

[curiositycat]

Yes, at one point he said something like "it's harder to believe as days go by".....turned red and then changed his tune quickly. At the end of the interview he really picked up steam, like "Oh, yeah I remember, this is what I am supposed to be saying":liar:




I noticed him choke up too curiositycat! I was watching and you could tell he was flustered. First, he can't keep his facts straight and I also noticed that he didn't sound at all like he believed that drew hasn't done something to Stacy.

[SuziQ]

Stacey's sisters speak to NBC5 this morning:

http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=180200

[SuziQ]

I remember that as well Suzi. I think Stacey was much younger when he met her but was so insistant on it being 17 so he wouldn't get in trouble. Also with everything coming out about this creep I wouldn't be at all surprised if he helped the mom dissapear. JMO of course.

This is also JMO of course, but, how easy it would be to make someone with a past of dissapearing, dissapear for good, and not have anyone question it. The thing that bugs me about Stacey's mom is she had always come back before.

I still want to find out whether three out of four wives are dead or missing.

[Class-z]

Just to clarify, I think I read that his oldest son has the children from the Savio marriage. I haven't heard where Stacy's babies are. It sounded like they were with him.

Can you imagine meeting the needs of two very young children while trying to deflect attention from himself? Someone has to be helping him. I hope they are ok. :(

My understanding from the aunt last night, she thinks all the children are with the older son, who is also a COP.

[Taximom]

Thanks, Class-z. How is a 26 yr old handling all those children during this traumatic time? Wow.

[nanandjim]

Thanks, Class-z. How is a 26 yr old handling all those children during this traumatic time? Wow. Who's taking the children to school? Wonder if he lives close by? Did Stacey know that her husband had EIGHT kids, some older than she...

[therese]

I remember this well, she was completely right as to where Lacey was. I hope they find her today, time is of the essence.

it was Sandra Belanger and EVP(electronic voice phenomenon ).
I wonder if she has done more of these?

[BritDees]

it was Sandra Belanger and EVP(electronic voice phenomenon ).
I wonder if she has done more of these?

At one time she was supposed to be making her own site but I don't know if that ever happened. When she first spoke of Laci it was on Rense.com

[i.b.nora]

Greta's producer says:

OTR producer just reported that a grand jury has been convened to investigate the March 04 bathtub death of Sgt Drew Peterson’s wife.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[chicoliving]

Volunteers on foot and horseback, in boats and airplanes, resumed their search Wednesday morning for Stacy Peterson, 23, the Bolingbrook mother who has been missing for 11 days.

Close to 60 volunteers turned out, including a team of eight women and their horses from the Fox Valley Trail Riders. The women--carrying machetes, pliers and fence cutters--are experienced in clearing brush, said Marni McClennan, owner of Newark-based Saddle Up Stables and organizer of the equestrian search group.

video at link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_web1nov07,0,2282497.story?coll=chi_tab01_ layout

[chicoliving]

Fox News Channel just had an update and the person reporting said that Texas Equusearch has been up in the air today with one of Drew's friends going over where Drew would normally fly, etc.

[SuziQ]

Alot of new updates coming from http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

Steph (produder) calling regarding strange new developement, getting a second source to confirm before reporting. Article about Stacey's childhood. Drew left his house with two people dressed in a suit. He went to grand jury hearing regarding Savio's death. Men not in uniform had keys, went in house after Drew left.

[SuziQ]

Not a funny situation at all, but I love reading the comments at Greta wire. This one made me giggle:

Holy Cow, the wheels of justice do grind slowly. At least this is progress — No thanks to the Coroner…I hear the first draft of the autopsy on wife #3 concluded that she wasn’t even dead, just very tired.

[MagicRose99]

From what I understand, a coroner's jury gets to see EVERYTHING, ALL details big and small of the death. They are the ones that make the determination (murder or not) when the death is deemed "suspicious."

The thing about that tho, is that these people have no qualifications to be making such a determination. They are everyday "Joes" that get picked from a jury pool...

[i.b.nora]

Have been looking through articles and while this one is dated today, it references last a search last Friday November 7th.

MISSION TOWNSHIP: Police check airfield for missing mother (http://mywebtimes.com/ottnews/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=347784)

MISSION TOWNSHIP: Police check airfield for missing mother
11/07/2007, 10:04 am

DAN CHURNEY, danc@mywebtimes.com, 815-431-4050

State police searched Cushing Field in northeast La Salle County Friday in hopes of finding a 23-year-old Bolingbrook mother who's been missing more than a week.

Stacy Peterson has been missing since Oct. 28. Her husband is 53-year-old Bolingbrook Police Sgt. Drew Peterson, who kept an aircraft at Cushing Field near Newark. He said he found her abandoned car Oct. 29 at an airport in Bolingbrook.

I didn't realize that he kept his little plane at another airfield. Did anyone else know that?

[SuziQ]

I didn't realize that he kept his little plane at another airfield. Did anyone else know that?

I had seen a poster at Gretawire state that, but didn't know it as fact. Also another poster claims that the oldest son that is a cop has a wife that's FBI. Can anyone confirm that?

[golfmom]

http://cbs2chicago.com/national/stacy.peterson.missing.2.537691.html

WBBM-TV also contacted one of Drew Peterson's sons from his first marriage. He didn't want to go on camera, in part he said, out of fear of his dad.

[mysteriew]

The potential clue found yesterday turned out to be nothing
http://www.wbbm780.com/Search-For-Peterson-Resumes--No-Clues-Found-Yester/1184025

[calidreamin]

On Gretawire Greta just posted that Jamie Colby emailed he that wife#3 was not creamated, they might be exhuming the body.

[i.b.nora]

On Gretawire Greta just posted that Jamie Colby emailed he that wife#3 was not creamated, they might be exhuming the body.

Yes, I just read that on Jamie's blog

Why is Drew Peterson in a Suit? (http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/tag/drew-peterson/)

She says: "The States Attorneys office tells me their “review” into the death of Peterson’s third wife Kathleen Savio is ongoing. The spokesperson is calling it a “review” not re-opening or re-investigation. My sense is that terminology may not be critical. Either way the case is getting another look. I asked if Kathleen Savio’s body is available for examination or has it been cremated. I’m told she was not cremated."

[i.b.nora]

I had seen a poster at Gretawire state that, but didn't know it as fact. Also another poster claims that the oldest son that is a cop has a wife that's FBI. Can anyone confirm that?

I saw that post too, but since you mentioned it, I have been searching for confirmation and have not had any success.

What I did find is Jamie Colby blog said: "A neighbor told me by phone this weekend three of the kids are with Drew Peterson’s older son, who is a police officer in Oakbrook, Illinois. He and his wife are caring for the three youngest children. Two of them are Stacy’s … one is the son of wife #3 Kathleen Savio with Drew."

We know now, that the fourth son is supposedly staying 'down the street' with the school principle's family.

[mysteriew]

They are saying that "dozens" of volunteers showed up for the search today. But they do have boats, horses, and ATV's. Interesting tidbit in the article about a small fishing/hunting club they have been searching:

Watters did not identify the private club in Plainfield, but said an official of the club told EquuSearch team members Drew Peterson had made inquiries into using the club “to go shooting,” Watters said.
http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/romeoville/homepage/x1375677846

[englishleigh]

Did Equusearch also search for Lisa Stebic?

Wouldn't it be something if they found Lisa while looking for Stacy?

I'd love to see BOTH Craig Stebic :liar: and Drew Peterson :liar: ------>:behindbar

[mysteriew]

I agree. I wonder if these searches are making Stebic nervous?

[englishleigh]

I agree. I wonder if these searches are making Stebic nervous?

Did you see where he said he felt sorry for Drew, b/c he could totally relate to what was happening to him? I thought, yeah, I'll just bet you can. :slap: :sick:

[chicoliving]

The police sergeant husband of missing Bolingbrook mother Stacy Peterson visited the Will County courthouse complex in Joliet for about two hours this afternoon.

A grand jury is meeting in the building he entered, which also houses the Will County State's Attorney's offices.

But neither Sgt. Drew Peterson nor the two lawyers who accompanied him would say what they were doing there.

"This is an on-going investigation," said attorney Fred Morelli. "We have nothing to say."

Drew Peterson -- clean shaven and dressed in a dark suit and tie -- would not respond to repeated questions from reporters. Moments later -- about 3:30 p.m. -- the sergeant and his lawyers left the courthouse complex in a gray Volkswagen.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/639607,peterson110707.article

[calidreamin]

The police sergeant husband of missing Bolingbrook mother Stacy Peterson visited the Will County courthouse complex in Joliet for about two hours this afternoon.

A grand jury is meeting in the building he entered, which also houses the Will County State's Attorney's offices.

But neither Sgt. Drew Peterson nor the two lawyers who accompanied him would say what they were doing there.

"This is an on-going investigation," said attorney Fred Morelli. "We have nothing to say."

Drew Peterson -- clean shaven and dressed in a dark suit and tie -- would not respond to repeated questions from reporters. Moments later -- about 3:30 p.m. -- the sergeant and his lawyers left the courthouse complex in a gray Volkswagen.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/639607,peterson110707.article

Hmm I wonder if that has to do with wife #3's demise.

[Taximom]

calidreamin, I think so. i.b.nora posted this earlier:
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Greta's producer says:

OTR producer just reported that a grand jury has been convened to investigate the March 04 bathtub death of Sgt Drew Peterson’s wife.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[Taximom]

I hope media and LE followed that volkswagon.

[mysteriew]

In the article Chicoliving posted it said:
Moments later -- about 3:30 p.m. -- the sergeant and his lawyers left the courthouse complex in a gray Volkswagen.

When Greta posted about a possible GJ investigation, she said as an attorney if she was representing Drew she would advise that he not talk to the GJ.

It sounds like that is just what happened- he must have pulled the 5th.

[mysteriew]

I was just thinking. As of last week LE were investigating the disappearance of Stacy and a DA was 'reviewing' the death of Kathleen.

And in only a week, they are taking the case to GJ, without even exhuming the body. That is real quick for an old case. There had to have been something very definitive in that file, because usually it takes months for investigation on an old case.

[itsreenw]

Well this case is full oif surprises. Now that I am hearing Drew dated Stacey's older sister, I believe he very well could have killed their mother. I wonder why that wasn't publicized immediately. Maybe this will generate some attention to Stacey's mom's disappearance too. He speaks so negatively of her as if he knew her and didn't like her. He seems to have no compassion for the fact that it is/was his wife's missing mother.
.
He supposedly met Stacey at her job at the motel. I have been curious to know what DP was doing at a local motel in the first place.

I don't believe he first met her there. I think he knew where Stacey worked and went to her job to start courting her.

[Taximom]

In the article Chicoliving posted it said:
Moments later -- about 3:30 p.m. -- the sergeant and his lawyers left the courthouse complex in a gray Volkswagen.

When Greta posted about a possible GJ investigation, she said as an attorney if she was representing Drew she would advise that he not talk to the GJ.

It sounds like that is just what happened- he must have pulled the 5th.

Good catch, mysteriew, as usual!

[mssheila]

Stacy Peterson's family has been asked to go to the Police Dept- no link yet- per Fox News

[mysteriew]

Stacy Peterson's family has been asked to go to the Police Dept- no link yet- per Fox News

With no news of a body being found, I wonder what this is about? I first thought an impending arrest, but I doubt they would even tell the family until they had him in custody. So maybe he is is custody?

LOL, this is just like last night, I am on pins and needles again!

[Taximom]

Maybe Drew "manned up" and gave LE the info they need. I doubt it, but there's a small chance, eh?

ETA: Well, on second thought I guess they wouldn't have let him go if this happened. :doh:

[i.b.nora]

"How in the world could anyone say it was an accident?" Anna Doman said.
"The cut was on the back of her head, and she was on her face in a waterless
bathtub. Give me a break."

- Anna Doman, sister of Kathleen Savio

Family Of Bolingbrook Cop's Deceased Wife Speaks (http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburbanbureau/drew.stacy.peterson.2.538116.html)

[TGIRecovered]

Maybe Drew "manned up" and gave LE the info they need. I doubt it, but there's a small chance, eh?

ETA: Well, on second thought I guess they wouldn't have let him go if this happened. :doh:


Why on earth wouldn't they? After all, they let him slide on everything else he's done so far.

I'm feeling a bit pessimistic considering what's gone on with the ex-cheif in South Dakota who shot his wife in front of their little girl in addition to DP and Stebic...then there's Young down south. It's an epidemic...getting away with offing the wife.

I'll try to be a bit more cheery next time I post.

Susan

[SuziQ]

Stacy Peterson's family has been asked to go to the Police Dept- no link yet- per Fox News

Anything on this yet?

[TGIRecovered]

I have Fox news on now and I've heard nothing.

[SuziQ]

"How in the world could anyone say it was an accident?" Anna Doman said.
"The cut was on the back of her head, and she was on her face in a waterless
bathtub. Give me a break."

- Anna Doman, sister of Kathleen Savio

Family Of Bolingbrook Cop's Deceased Wife Speaks (http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburbanbureau/drew.stacy.peterson.2.538116.html)

I keep expecting to hear SOMETHING that will explain why Savio's case was handled the way it was. Instead I keep hearing things that make me go WTF? Seriously, WTF?!!!

[Taximom]

Why on earth wouldn't they? After all, they let him slide on everything else he's done so far.

I'm feeling a bit pessimistic considering what's gone on with the ex-cheif in South Dakota who shot his wife in front of their little girl in addition to DP and Stebic...then there's Young down south. It's an epidemic...getting away with offing the wife.

I'll try to be a bit more cheery next time I post.

Susan

((Susan)) It's unbelievable, isn't it? Nothing would surprise me in this case.

Is anyone watching Nancy Grace's show? I wonder what they are covering.

[SuziQ]

Just listened to a Gretacast audio titled • 11/07/2007: Producers Report on Hunt for Stacy

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

IIRC, The Grand Jury is convening on both Stacey and Kathy's cases. Possibly because of the similar MO's. The family is meeting with LE because they want the FBI brought in. Ric's demeanor has changed. He pointed out to Tim areas that Drew and Stacey frequented and went up in a plane with searchers. Searchers are specifically looking for a blue barrel. Ric had food delivered to the searchers.

ETA: The coroner on Kathy's case will think about doing Greta's show.

[SuziQ]

"How in the world could anyone say it was an accident?" Anna Doman said.
"The cut was on the back of her head, and she was on her face in a waterless
bathtub. Give me a break."

- Anna Doman, sister of Kathleen Savio

Family Of Bolingbrook Cop's Deceased Wife Speaks (http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburbanbureau/drew.stacy.peterson.2.538116.html)

Omg, did you watch the video on the right? It shows the bathtub...no way she accidentally died in there!

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=37075@wbbm.dayport.com

[Elphaba]

Thanks, Cali, then I'm thinking he knew she what she said to her friend Cesare! I wouldn't put it past him to be able to have some sort of program to find out what she was saying on the net!

I won't get Greta here until 10 est.. any news?

I know this is a little late reply to this certain subject over the email... but I would like to point out that keylogger progams exist that can be hidden on a pc to record keystroke and internet activity. It's a program that can be used to keep a jealous or controlling person apprised of the pc/online activities of the person they are trying to keep under their control.

[dee10134]

According to Fox News Chicago at 9 p.m., they found the one thing in the garage that they were looking for, but have not yet elaborated yet.

Also, the Coroner has retracted that Savio's death was an accident! They have reopened the investigation into the death of Kathleen Savio!!!

[nanandjim]

I just saw Wife #3's sister on GVS. She said that her sister's engagement ring went missing during her separation from DP. She said that it was large. Drew just gave Stacey a large ring for their anniversary, which people found strange because they had not been getting along. I wonder if Drew gave Stacey the ring that he probably stole from Kathleen ? (Wife #3). I bet that it is now missing again...

[nanandjim]

According to Fox News Chicago at 9 p.m., they found the one thing in the garage that they were looking for, but have not yet elaborated yet.

Also, the Coroner has retracted that Savio's death was an accident! They have reopened the investigation into the death of Kathleen Savio!!!
I hope that they can nail him. Of course, it won't bring Kathleen or Stacey back, but maybe justice will be served.

It really scares me that Kathleen wrote a very detailed letter to the Attorney General (?) stating all of the abuse that she suffered along with fear for her life. Yet, nothing was done.

[SuziQ]

According to Fox News Chicago at 9 p.m., they found the one thing in the garage that they were looking for, but have not yet elaborated yet.

Also, the Coroner has retracted that Savio's death was an accident! They have reopened the investigation into the death of Kathleen Savio!!!

That kinda makes me wonder if that's not the the real reason Ric was supposed to go to Drews house and "get his things". Could be the thing that finally woke Ric up to the truth.

[SuziQ]

I hope that they can nail him. Of course, it won't bring Kathleen or Stacey back, but maybe justice will be served.

It really scares me that Kathleen wrote a very detailed letter to the Attorney General (?) stating all of the abuse that she suffered along with fear for her life. Yet, nothing was done.

She was flat out ignored....why?

[dee10134]

I'm still waiting on the news to say WHAT THAT ONE THING WAS!

[dee10134]

I also read somewhere today that they told searchers to focus on looking for a blue barrel.......... :(

I think that was on Fox's website or Topix. I will have to find the exact link if anyone wants it.

[nanandjim]

She was flat out ignored....why?
Maybe, because he was a policeman. Maybe, because most pleas are ignored. That's my fear. If you or I wrote the letter, we would be ignored, too. If I were in fear of my life, as these women were, I would buy a gun and learn how to use it. Then, I would shoot to kill if I had the opportunity. Unfortunately, this guy is so diabolical, I don't think that they had a chance. He reminds me of my ex-husband...scary! :eek:

[nanandjim]

I also read somewhere today that they told searchers to focus on looking for a blue barrel.......... :(

I think that was on Fox's website or Topix. I will have to find the exact link if anyone wants it.
I have read the "blue barrel" rumor several times, but I don't know if it's a fact or not.

[SuziQ]

I also read somewhere today that they told searchers to focus on looking for a blue barrel.......... :(

I think that was on Fox's website or Topix. I will have to find the exact link if anyone wants it.

I know that one of Greta's people said the same thing.

[SuziQ]

I'm still waiting on the news to say WHAT THAT ONE THING WAS!

You know, Greta said she got wind of a "strange developement" and was working on verifying with a second source for revealing it. Then nothing further was said.

Did Greta mention anything on her show tonight?

[nanandjim]

That kinda makes me wonder if that's not the the real reason Ric was supposed to go to Drews house and "get his things". Could be the thing that finally woke Ric up to the truth.
Maybe, he asked Ric to do him a favor and retrieve something incriminating from the garage. Ric was smart enough not to do it and notified police. Ric was pretty hesitant on his interview last night. He really seemed like he was holding back and not singing the praises for Drew like he had been in the beginning.

[SuziQ]

Just listened to a Gretacast audio titled • 11/07/2007: Producers Report on Hunt for Stacy

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

IIRC, The Grand Jury is convening on both Stacey and Kathy's cases. Possibly because of the similar MO's. The family is meeting with LE because they want the FBI brought in. Ric's demeanor has changed. He pointed out to Tim areas that Drew and Stacey frequented and went up in a plane with searchers. Searchers are specifically looking for a blue barrel. Ric had food delivered to the searchers.

ETA: The coroner on Kathy's case will think about doing Greta's show.

Bumping up this post. In the above link is an audio. In it they discuss the blue barrel among other things...

[SuziQ]

A comment at Gretawire:http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/07/tonights-show-comments/#comments

Dan - wife 1 - alleged massive coronary, wife 2 - escaped with her life (and a divorce) and was afraid he’d kill her - she is still terrified of him.

***
How likely is it that his first wife, who was probably young, died of a naturally caused massive coronary?

ETA: So we have...
Wife #1 Deceased, massive coronary ETA: Not true, alive and well in California
Wife #2 Alive but terrified
Wife #3 Drowned in a bathtub
Wife #4 Missing
Wife #4 Mother missing

This is the stuff nightmares are made of!

[nanandjim]

A comment at Gretawire:http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/07/tonights-show-comments/#comments

Dan - wife 1 - alleged massive coronary, wife 2 - escaped with her life (and a divorce) and was afraid he’d kill her - she is still terrified of him.

***
How likely is it that his first wife, who was probably young, died of a naturally caused massive coronary?

ETA: So we have...
Wife #1 Deceased, massive coronary
Wife #2 Alive but terrified
Wife #3 Drowned in a bathtub
Wife #4 Missing
Wife #4 Mother missing

This is the stuff nightmares are made of!
I agree. I wonder if Drew is connected to the disappearance of Stacy's mother.

[mysteriew]

Remember the large plastic container that was talked about earlier? Remember the talk earlier that police were interested in a barrel that used to be at the Peterson home? From what I have heard, that large plastic container was a blue barrel. Drew and a friend (not Rick) were seen moving the barrel on Sun.

[chicoliving]

The Will County coroner says the cause of the 2004 death of a Bolingbrook police sergeant's former wife should have been ruled "undetermined."

Forty-year-old Kathleen Savio drown in her bathtub in March 2004.
A coroner's jury ruled the death accidental and no charges were filed.

But Coroner Patrick O'Neil tells WGN-TV that certain aspects of Savio's death have raised concerns.

Her death is being re-examined in light of recent events.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=state&id=5749482

[chicoliving]

The search continues for missing Bolingbrook mother Stacy Peterson. Meanwhile, after not being seen for days, her husband, Drew Peterson, made an appearance in Joliet.

CBS 2 news partner the Naperville Sun saw Drew Peterson leaving the courthouse annex at 3:30 p.m. Wednesday. It was rumored that he would be there for grand jury proceedings but officials would not confirm that.

CBS 2 West Suburban Bureau Chief Mike Puccinelli made a trip to the coroner's office on the fourth floor of that building where Drew Peterson was spotted. An official asked that he leave. When asked if the building was a public building, the official responded, "Not today."

Officials would not confirm anything regarding that grand jury Drew Peterson reportedly attended Wednesday.

http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburbanbureau/drew.stacy.peterson.2.538116.html

[SuziQ]

I am googling for info on Drews first wife and the container. Nothing on the first wife yet, but the below linked video states IIRC, that Drew called a friend over to his house to help him remove from a bedroom, a heavy rubbermaid container. Cadaver dogs hit on the scent of death in an upstairs bedroom and and one of the cars. This vid is from Nov 2nd and was probably already linked here. Just wanted to make sure we had it. Back to searching...

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4821566&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[mysteriew]

The Will County coroner says the cause of the 2004 death of a Bolingbrook police sergeant's former wife should have been ruled "undetermined."

Forty-year-old Kathleen Savio drown in her bathtub in March 2004.
A coroner's jury ruled the death accidental and no charges were filed.

But Coroner Patrick O'Neil tells WGN-TV that certain aspects of Savio's death have raised concerns.

Her death is being re-examined in light of recent events.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=state&id=5749482

So now the coroner is backing off on the accidental death determination?

[Elphaba]

With 4th wife missing, 3rd wife's death being rechecked, 2nd wife scared of him, it sounds like LE may have a serial wife killer on their hands... perhaps it is time to recheck how wife #1 died, as well. :(

[Chi Town Legal Freak]

AMW now involved.

http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=50297

[i.b.nora]

"November 7, 2007 - The Will County coroner says the cause of the 2004 death of a Bolingbrook police sergeant's former wife should have been ruled "undetermined.""

Actually, it probably should have been ruled a homicide. I don't like this dude. Way too interested in covering his own behind. I wonder how many of the deaths he oversees are guided to his funeral home?

If I recall correctly, the system was changed early this year. I think all jurisdictions should require a Coroner with a medical license and background.

[SuziQ]

From Chi Town's AMW link:

Kathleens emergency room report:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonemergency.pdf

Her protection order:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/peter001.PDF

Letter to Prosecutor:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonletter.pdf

Thanks Chi Town! Ok, isn't it policy or illegal, in most states, for a police officer to be on the force and own a gun if they have a protection order against them?

ETA: It was an emergency order of protection and the normal rules don't apply. It was withdrawn in agreement of both parties, in April 2002.

[philamena]

A comment at Gretawire:http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/07/tonights-show-comments/#comments

Dan - wife 1 - alleged massive coronary, wife 2 - escaped with her life (and a divorce) and was afraid he’d kill her - she is still terrified of him.

***
How likely is it that his first wife, who was probably young, died of a naturally caused massive coronary?

ETA: So we have...
Wife #1 Deceased, massive coronary
Wife #2 Alive but terrified
Wife #3 Drowned in a bathtub
Wife #4 Missing
Wife #4 Mother missing

This is the stuff nightmares are made of!

He's a serial killer. A cop who's a serial killer.:furious:

[SuziQ]

So far, all I can determine about wife #1 is that it was originally stated by someone on topix that she died of natural causes. Supposedly a news channel somewhere said it was from a massive coronary. So there is no official confirmation and as of now it's still a rumor. Is there anyone here that is really good at finding public records?

[Chi Town Legal Freak]

From Chi Town's AMW link:

Kathleens emergency room report:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonemergency.pdf

Her protection order:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/peter001.PDF

Letter to Prosecutor:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonletter.pdf

Thanks Chi Town! Ok, isn't it policy or illegal, in most states, for a police officer to be on the force and own a gun if they have a protection order against them?

ETA: It was an emergency order of protection and the normal rules don't apply. It was withdrawn in agreement of both parties, in April 2002.

Suzi,

You're welcome. That letter to the prosecutor was awful.

[mysteriew]

A copy of the autopsy was given to the Trib. They are giving some details.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_08nov08,1,2672187.story

[SuziQ]

Ok, found the name of the first wife. Her name is XXXXXX. Obtained from property records. Two sons. One of these sons is watching the kids. No children with second wife, Victoria. Funny how the only former wife with no kids is the only one left living. If XXXXXX is deceased that is.

I can't link the source here as it would break WS policy and I've been pushing that with Gretawire. So the mods may want to delete this post.

ETA: I redacted wife #1 name as she is alive and well in California.

[Mysticchic]

Son Steven is watching the kids..Eric is the other son..they need searchers today!!!!! They also need help picking up tshirts for the searchers and the vinyal for the billboards

[i.b.nora]

Ok, found the name of the first wife.

Great work!!! To my knowledge no one else has found it.
Are the property records available online?

ETA: Ah, I see now that someone at CourtTV has the name as well. That's okay. We need to know if she is alive or dead.

[Mygirlsadie]

We are dealing with a very horrible sick man. I feel that he is responsible for all the death's and the missing. Every single one of them including Stacy's mother.

[SuziQ]

Great work!!! To my knowledge no one else has found it.
Are the property records available online?

ETA: Ah, I see now that someone at CourtTV has the name as well. That's okay. We need to know if she is alive or dead.

I love Google:blowkiss:

[mysteriew]

I tried googling for an obituary but didn't find one. I didn't find her in the ssdi either

[chicoliving]

I have read the "blue barrel" rumor several times, but I don't know if it's a fact or not.


Illinois State Police have expressed interest in a barrel once at the Peterson home. Searchers focused on that but came up empty Saturday.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/634898,CST-NWS-boling04s1.article

Investigators also asked Hudetz if there were any "barrels" at the airfield.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/633460,CST-NWS-boling03.article

Those are the main mentions in the online media. There's been mention of a barrel on Fox News several times this past week which is what got our attention.

[mysteriew]

Son Steven is watching the kids..Eric is the other son..they need searchers today!!!!! They also need help picking up tshirts for the searchers and the vinyal for the billboards
If you are close and if you can help please volunteer for this search!

Search headquarters

Westbrook Christian Church
1175 Lilly Cashe Lane
Bollingbrook, IL

8 am

If you have already searched before, thank you! Your assistance is still needed. If you have not been able to search before, please do so tomorrow!

[chicoliving]

~snip~
State's Atty. James Glasgow said last week that his office was reviewing the investigation of Savio's death. Savio's family members said they welcome reopening the investigation, even if it includes exhuming her body. The state's attorney's office has discussed that possibility, officials said.

"Are we open to it? Are you kidding?" asked her sister, Anna Marie Doman. "She'd be having a party up there. I know [exhumation] is kind of creepy, but if that's what it takes, that's what it takes."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_08nov08,0,638225.story?coll=chi_tab01_lay out

[englishleigh]

With 4th wife missing, 3rd wife's death being rechecked, 2nd wife scared of him, it sounds like LE may have a serial wife killer on their hands... perhaps it is time to recheck how wife #1 died, as well. :(

A massive coronary caused by poisoning, maybe?? :behindbar

[richandfamous]

With 4th wife missing, 3rd wife's death being rechecked, 2nd wife scared of him, it sounds like LE may have a serial wife killer on their hands... perhaps it is time to recheck how wife #1 died, as well. :(

omg, is the first wife dead???

[Elphaba]

omg, is the first wife dead???

Sadly, yes... :(

[PrayersForMaura]

I have a terrible feeling she's in the water. :( I hope somehow more bodies of water are being checked.

Prayers for Stacey and her family.

[calidreamin]

A massive coronary caused by poisoning, maybe?? :behindbar

This just gets worse and worse. I think he is a serial murderer who has gotten away with it for years. Unbelivable!

[concernedperson]

Sadly, yes... :(

Really? What happened or do you know? This is unbelievable. 1st wife, 3rd wife, 4th wife and possibly the 4th wife's mother.

[Elphaba]

I think Suzie Q got the info on the first wife off of the Greta site... she is thought to have died of a massive coronary.

[Littledeer]

To clear up the confusion surrounding wife #1. This was an unsubstianted rumor which was clarified after extensive research by Greta's people that she is still alive and living in California.

I don't know how to link it, but if you go to gretawire you will see what she wrote on this matter. She posted it at 7:58 am this morning.

[lymom3]

Do we know when the first wife died? Did she die of the coronary before he married the 2nd wife or were they divorced and she died at a later time? A lot of drugs can bring on a massive coronary (Yes, I watch too much Forensic Files).

[concernedperson]

Do we know when the first wife died? Did she die of the coronary before he married the 2nd wife or were they divorced and she died at a later time? A lot of drugs can bring on a massive coronary (Yes, I watch too much Forensic Files).
She isn't dead. I just read the correction from Greta. It was a rumor...I have linked it below.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[SuziQ]

To clear up the confusion surrounding wife #1. This was an unsubstianted rumor which was clarified after extensive research by Greta's people that she is still alive and living in California.

I don't know how to link it, but if you go to gretawire you will see what she wrote on this matter. She posted it at 7:58 am this morning.

Thank you Littledeer! It was driving me crazy. I couldn't find a thing on her.

[calidreamin]

Thank you LittleDeer! One mystery solved and it is good to know the 1st wife was able to get out alive.

[SuziQ]

Ah, Greta's rumor was different than the one I was chasing. The one I was chasing indicated that wife #1 had passed away before Drew married wife #2. The one Greta was chasing was wife #1 had passed away day before yesterday. That was the "strange developement" Greta and her people were trying to confirm yesterday.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/08/thursday-how-crazy-can-this-business-get-dont-answer/

(snip)
Incidentally, to answer the question, “how crazy can this business get?” - I need to give you some behind the scenes from yesterday. Early yesterday morning I got acall (which turned out to be FALSE FALSE FALSE information) that Sgt. Drew Peterson’s first wife had coinicidentally died the night before of natural causes. Steph and Cory (OTR Producer Cory Howard) began that investigation (meanwhile they had a ton of other things to do in Illinois.) Their investigation was hampered by the fact that wife # 1 lives (yes, LIVES) in another state. As the day passed, a SECOND person said the wife #1 died the night before. Now we had two sources, but it just did not seem right (so we did not, of course, report it) and we were also fearful that our 2 sources were really one source — that they had both learned the information (false) from the same person.
Well….it was not until about 7pm that we confirmed that wife #1 is ALIVE AND WELL (and that it was just a crazy - and lousy - rumor floating around Bolingbrook, Illinois.)

[dee10134]

So now the coroner is backing off on the accidental death determination?

According to the news last night, the coroner did not agree with the findings of the coroner's jury, BUT was powerless to overturn it.

A law was recently passed that now allows the coroner to overrule the findings of the coroner's jury, and he is now using that power.

They said last night on the news that the coroner does not believe the death is accidental and they have reopened the investigation into Kathleen Savio's death.

[dee10134]

"November 7, 2007 - The Will County coroner says the cause of the 2004 death of a Bolingbrook police sergeant's former wife should have been ruled "undetermined.""

Actually, it probably should have been ruled a homicide. I don't like this dude. Way too interested in covering his own behind. I wonder how many of the deaths he oversees are guided to his funeral home?

If I recall correctly, the system was changed early this year. I think all jurisdictions should require a Coroner with a medical license and background.

Illinois law PREVENTED the coroner from overruling the determination of "accidental death" by the jury back in 2004.

The law has since CHANGED and now allows him to overrule the jury's ruling, which he has. There is no covering of HIS behind. HE was powerless to overrule the jury's determination at the time! Maybe the jury was paid off to rule "accidental death"....

[Elphaba]

Thank you for clearing up the 1st wife issue!

[nanandjim]

From Chi Town's AMW link:

Kathleens emergency room report:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonemergency.pdf

Her protection order:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/peter001.PDF

Letter to Prosecutor:
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonletter.pdf

Thanks Chi Town! Ok, isn't it policy or illegal, in most states, for a police officer to be on the force and own a gun if they have a protection order against them?

ETA: It was an emergency order of protection and the normal rules don't apply. It was withdrawn in agreement of both parties, in April 2002.
I don't know what to say about this poor woman's detailed letter being ignored. I hate to say it, but it is very apparent that Stacy was involved in the harassment. She had to know that Drew murdered her. Of course, Stacy was a teenager and not fully mature.

I feel so bad for the children, especially the children by Kathleen. I have to believe that they know or suspect that Dad murdered Mom. How very sad.

This story reminds me of the day trader in Atlanta who murdered several people as well as his second wife and two children by his first marriage. I remember the wife's name being Leanne. This guy, David ?, most probably murdered his first wife and her mother, but police could never prove it. He got a large settlement from his first wife's death and promptly invested and lost it day trading. Leanne had to suspect David of the first wife's murder. How couldn't you? He was having an affair with her and told her that his situation would be cleared up shortly or something like that.

I don't understand how these women can be in such denial. Don't they understand that their days are numbered, too?

[dee10134]

Wow, after reading Kathleen's letter to the SA, I'm shocked. It seems that Stacy was a big part of antagonizing this woman.

From Kathleen's letter, we see that Stacy apparently had a clue as to how Drew was BEFORE she married him. Maybe being so young at the time, she really was naive and thought that he wasn't going to treat her like how Drew treated Kathleen.

But just from reading this letter alone, it appears that Drew had a habit of abusing his power, both in the police department and in his marital affairs. Kathleen said it best when she said he acts as if he is "above the law."

Now, it's time for the law to catch up with his sorry ass.

[dee10134]

Another thought I just had. I don't want to smear Stacy's name in any way, BUT considering Kathleen's letter, the though I had was that maybe it's possible that Stacy knew about DP's involvement in the death of Kathleen Savio.

When Stacy began threatening divorce to Drew, Drew probably got scared that Stacy would tell LE or the divorce courts about the murder of Kathleen and he would be imprisoned. So the only way around this was to make Stacy disappear before she ever got her day in divorce court........ and leaked any info about Kathleen Savio.

He had to kill Kathleen because she was getting in his way and now Stacy has disappeared because she was about to get in his way!

It's just a theory based off of what I've read.

[dee10134]

Also, anyone else find it completely coincidental that both Kathleen and Stacy were enrolled in nursing programs at Joliet Junior College?

I wonder if wives 1 and 2 were also going to school for nursin