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MartiTalbott
03-08-2004, 10:50 PM
I read part of the website - the part that counts, and I certainly understand why the parents are so upset with the police. The thing is, while the cops may believe one thing, they will sometimes say another for two reasons: not to get hopes up and not to tip their hand.

It seems to me that people into drugs and brutality games probably like to brag about their crimes. If that is so, someone somewhere knows more than they are saying. Perhaps they don't know who to tell or are afraid to tell.

At any rate, my advice would be to find someone willing to infiltrate and find out. Otherwise, there is simply not enough evidence for the cops to do the job right.

Marti
www.casewatchers.com

Trino
03-09-2004, 05:26 PM
Reference the recent Cuevas case in Philadelphia where a house was set on fire and a 10 day old girl as kidnapped and raised by the arsonist. The police declared the baby dead. Her mother, however, had never given up hope. The police were wrong. If I were the mother in the Dyer case, I would continue to pursue my ideas vs. the police report.

smile22
03-11-2004, 09:10 AM
always some times i think police are hiding info, and dont want to say anything but someitmes that info can be like the one missing clue police dont think its relvent and the person close to the case family friends of the person missing, dea alive and such, get this clue and solve it before the cops do, im working on the missing case of janice pockett an 8 yr old girl missing from tolland ct in 1973 and im hiting dead ends and my only next step is to talk to cops and such but i duno its my first case ever im doing so

True Crime Fanatic
04-29-2004, 03:01 PM
Here's a new page for Ricky:
http://community-2.webtv.net/Ydyer/WHATHAPPENTOOURSON/

I realize that the parents are distraught and emotional, but many people, including a famous profiler and a police officer, have admitted the police did a slopply job of investigating. I don't think it was lack of evidence, I think it was lack of motivation for some odd reason. The police could have pushed the "players" in the crime a bit harder, I think.

The roommate's last name is big in Western Nevada, though I am unsure if he is related to the big-named Shaw, and this small place has the "good ol' boy" values in many of the police force and the justice system. Not everyone falls into the trap... but too many.

Anyway, this is a new page. I am going to try to sort through all the information and make it easier to read, but I'm not sure how long it will take.

Anyone live out this way, near Sparks, Nevada?

Teraisa

WasBlind
05-26-2004, 09:15 PM
Not sure how, but my original post is gone.

Here it is, from my file on Ricky.

Ricky Lenn Dyer, Jr.

Ricky's parents have written me and asked for my help. Although my field of expertise is missing persons, the Lord has shown me I always have room for one more.

Please visit their web site for their son, and you decide.

Was this murder?

http://community-2.webtv.net/Ydyer/RICKYLENNDYERSPAGE/

If anyone needs contact information, please send me a note at MissingProfiles@yahoo.com and in the title put Ricky Dyer, and thanks

Many prayers for this family and for justice, Lanie
Help For The Missing

WasBlind
05-26-2004, 09:38 PM
This new article by S. C. Lomax is REALLY good.

http://truecrimefanatic.com/Ricky_Lenn_Dyer_Death_in_Summer.htm

True Crime Fanatic
06-17-2004, 06:18 PM
Thanks for checking out the story by Scott Lomax, he's such a caring writer, I hope he makes it far... but even more so, I hope something comes about for Ricky and his family. It's so tough.

Teraisa

S. C. Lomax
06-18-2004, 06:21 AM
Thank you for your comments about my article and about me :)

I always like to hear from people who have read my articles. I was just doing a search the other day for 'S. C. Lomax' to see if there were any references to my book and I came across this comment, which was really good to see.

I'm hoping to write something else about the Ricky Dyer Jr case soon.

All the best,
Scott

WasBlind
06-19-2004, 07:56 PM
Glad you found us, Scott. I have e-mailed you about Marti's new program aimed specifically at writers. Please consider sponsoring a missing person, after all it is free and you can link back to your pages.

Thanks again for what you have done for Josie and Rick.
May God richly bless you and yours, Lanie
Help For The Missing
HelpForTheMissing@yahoo.com

Please join us in the missing forums, you may be the one who recognizes someone and can bring them home again, and thanks!!
http://websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16

WasBlind
07-28-2004, 09:26 AM
S. C. Lomax has now sponsored missing Shania Supanich's web site

http://www.casewatchers.com/missing/FindShania.html

Thank you Scott for what you have done for Josie and Rick, and now for sponsoring beautiful Shania.

Shania is featured on Project Jason's adopt program. You can get her button for free, with a SASE. See Kelly's link for details
http://www.projectjason.org/adopt.html

May God richly bless you for all you have done to help the missing, and those seeking justice, Scott.
With love and HOPE, Lanie
Help For The Missing

WasBlind
08-21-2004, 03:35 AM
For Ricky, prayers for justice.

S. C. Lomax
12-23-2004, 04:18 PM
I am hoping to have another article published about Ricky's case. When i have more time I hope to write a longer piece, maybe a book.

By the way, I noticed that your casewatchers site has disappeared. Have you got a new site? I wanted to add the link for Shania to my new site (www.sclomax.co.uk) and visited the page and it was no longer there.

All the best,
Scott

WasBlind
12-25-2004, 04:05 AM
I am hoping to have another article published about Ricky's case. When i have more time I hope to write a longer piece, maybe a book.

By the way, I noticed that your casewatchers site has disappeared. Have you got a new site? I wanted to add the link for Shania to my new site (www.sclomax.co.uk) and visited the page and it was no longer there.

All the best,
Scott

Hi, Scott! It's wonderful to see you posting here. I am excited about the prospect of another article (or possible book) about Ricky. Thanks for sharing that, and for caring about his folks. They're incredible people.

Casewatchers does not belong to me, it belongs to Marti Talbott, and I e-mailed you about her taking down the missing pages, but I guess you did not received my mail. I've just e-mailed you with a link to Shania's home page in hopes you will continue to spread the word about Shania. Here is Shania's thread (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11057) at WS, should you care to read it.

Thanks for caring about the missing, Scott, and those left behind.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Blessed Christmas, Lanie

MyJessieAngel
12-11-2005, 12:40 PM
Hi everyone. I have been reading this board for a few days before finally becoming a member. I saw the thread that someone started about Ricky and became interested. His mom and I have become friends. She is a very sweet lady who just wants justice for her son. There is a petition up to the State of Nevada's attorney general to have his case reopened. We are trying to get as many people as possible to read and sign it. So far 12 people (including me) have signed.
here is the link for those interested:
http://www.petitiononline.com/rldj1972/petition.html

You must open it using Windows Internet Explorer or it won't accept your signature. Everyone who has opened the page using the AOL browser has been able to read the petition, but when they attempted to sign it, found that they could not.

This is an awesome board. I have learned alot about cases I didn't even know were out there. I hope to be here for a long long time. :)

shadowangel
12-11-2005, 12:47 PM
Welcome!!! We hope you stay a long time too! Please let Ricky's mom know she is welcome to join us also.

MyJessieAngel
12-11-2005, 12:59 PM
Welcome!!! We hope you stay a long time too! Please let Ricky's mom know she is welcome to join us also.
I sure will. I will be talking to her later today. We are collaborating on a new web site for Ricky. So far I got the background (angels) and stuff, but none of the content as of yet. I really would like to see justice for this family. I cannot imagine what it has been like living with this. She told me she was so disheartened, she was ready to give up until she found that there were still people who cared about what had happened to her son. That made me so sad to hear that she almost gave up. I am glad she didn't! I hope we can help get the word out, and that there are enough people out there who will care enough to make their voices heard. I believe Ricky was murdered. I believe the Ricky's murderers believe they got away with it. Who is to say they won't do it again and destroy another family by taking the life of a loved one? A friend of mine who is a retired police officer, opened the links to the pages I sent him and emailed me back saying after reading all that, he did not believe for a second that Ricky killed himself. He went on to say it looked to him like that investigation was severely botched.
:(

MyJessieAngel
12-11-2005, 10:26 PM
Sorry all, but this is a really important case to me ( I know everyone has a case that is most important to them, their pet case. Well, this is my pet case. I really want to see Justice done for Ricky and his family. Please don't get upset with me for posting on this thread daily to keep it visible.
Thanks everyone!
:blowkiss:



Hi everyone. I have been reading this board for a few days before finally becoming a member. I saw the thread that someone started about Ricky and became interested. His mom and I have become friends. She is a very sweet lady who just wants justice for her son. There is a petition up to the State of Nevada's attorney general to have his case reopened. We are trying to get as many people as possible to read and sign it. So far 12 people (including me) have signed.
here is the link for those interested:
http://www.petitiononline.com/rldj1972/petition.html

You must open it using Windows Internet Explorer or it won't accept your signature. Everyone who has opened the page using the AOL browser has been able to read the petition, but when they attempted to sign it, found that they could not.

This is an awesome board. I have learned alot about cases I didn't even know were out there. I hope to be here for a long long time. :)

MyJessieAngel
12-12-2005, 02:10 PM
Has lots of the same stuff on there, but his mom has the link to the petition on it too.

http://www.freewebs.com/forourricky/index.htm

It's a nice little page. She had me help her. She gave me the material and I put it on the page. Between the two of us, I think it turned out pretty good.
On another note:
So far we have over 30 signatures on the petition!! yay!!!
Thanks to everyone who signed, and please continue to pass it on.
I told Josie to come on over and register. She said to tell you all thanks for the invite. Don't know if she's gonna take up the invite, but I hope so. She's a really sweet lady.

:)

shadowangel
12-12-2005, 02:41 PM
Just a couple of quick points...

I totally agree that it is very difficult to visualize Ricky firing the shotgun with his left hand from the position shown. The gun would have had to have been in a position fairly close to that shown, and I'm not sure he could have reached the trigger with his left hand.

Are the shotgun and other evidence still in police custody?

Was Ricky known to store the shotgun loaded? As responsible as he sounds, I highly doubt it. Were any other shells found in the vehicle? What about in the apartment? If someone else loaded the shotgun, the shell(s) may have prints or other forensic evidence.

Were Ricky's hands tested for gun shot residue?

While I'm thinking...

Any prints in the area? The dry, dusty earth should have shown the presence of others.
Tire tracks? This appears to be some distance from the nearest town, the person would have had to have a way home (or whereever)...They would need either a second vehicle, a prearranged ride, or have had to have "hitched" a ride. Advertising for anyone on the road that evening that observed either a speeding vehicle or someone hitchhiking may yield interesting results.

Is it possible that Ricky was pursued, and fired the first shot in self-defense?

What were the roommate's actions after Ricky's death? Did he, or anyone related to the case, suddenly leave the area?

MyJessieAngel
12-12-2005, 03:03 PM
Just a couple of quick points...

I totally agree that it is very difficult to visualize Ricky firing the shotgun with his left hand from the position shown. The gun would have had to have been in a position fairly close to that shown, and I'm not sure he could have reached the trigger with his left hand.

Are the shotgun and other evidence still in police custody?

Was Ricky known to store the shotgun loaded? As responsible as he sounds, I highly doubt it. Were any other shells found in the vehicle? What about in the apartment? If someone else loaded the shotgun, the shell(s) may have prints or other forensic evidence.

Were Ricky's hands tested for gun shot residue?

While I'm thinking...

Any prints in the area? The dry, dusty earth should have shown the presence of others.
Tire tracks? This appears to be some distance from the nearest town, the person would have had to have a way home (or whereever)...They would need either a second vehicle, a prearranged ride, or have had to have "hitched" a ride. Advertising for anyone on the road that evening that observed either a speeding vehicle or someone hitchhiking may yield interesting results.

Is it possible that Ricky was pursued, and fired the first shot in self-defense?

What were the roommate's actions after Ricky's death? Did he, or anyone related to the case, suddenly leave the area?
Here are links where I believe all the infomation you asked can be found. It's alot of reading.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Ydyer/WHATHAPPENTOOURSON/
news story link:
http://www.rgj.com/news_old/stories/reno/946870083.html (http://www.rgj.com/news_old/stories/reno/946870083.html)

unsolved crimes link:
http://www.unsolvedcrimes.com/ricky-dyer.html

petition link:
http://new.petitiononline.com/rldj1972/petition.html

(the petition has lots of the info on it too)

shadowangel
12-12-2005, 03:23 PM
Here are links where I believe all the infomation you asked can be found. It's alot of reading.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Ydyer/WHATHAPPENTOOURSON/
news story link:
http://www.rgj.com/news_old/stories/reno/946870083.html (http://www.rgj.com/news_old/stories/reno/946870083.html)

unsolved crimes link:
http://www.unsolvedcrimes.com/ricky-dyer.html

petition link:
http://new.petitiononline.com/rldj1972/petition.html

(the petition has lots of the info on it too)
The links provided answered a couple of questions....

MyJessieAngel
12-12-2005, 03:41 PM
The links provided answered a couple of questions....
His mother, Josie, has her email address on some of the sites. If you have any questions, you should ask her. She could tell you more, and she likes to hear from people. It helps her to know that people still care about what happened. I know she won't mind aswering any questions you have, especially if it might help get justice for Ricky.
Her email is Vonlenn@webtv.net and she posted it on the websites she made for Ricky, just in case anyone did have more questions.

MyJessieAngel
12-12-2005, 03:57 PM
Here's a link to another page.

Sheesh, I gotta organize stuff I save on my computer better.

http://community-2.webtv.net/Ydyer/RICKYLENNDYERSPAGE/

MyJessieAngel
12-12-2005, 04:57 PM
Lots of links are on it.
:)

MyJessieAngel
12-12-2005, 04:59 PM
Lots of links are on it.
:)Duh, it would probably help if I put the page link on here too.
(I'm am such a dork sometimes)

http://www.freewebs.com/forourricky/index.htm

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

MyJessieAngel
12-12-2005, 10:41 PM
On some of those links, when you go to the pages, there are links to pages with pictures from the scene. I didn't see those before. If anyone has gone and read all the pages the links go to , and all, I would be interested to hear your thoughts. I really believe this poor kid was murdered, and that the investigation was severely botched.
:(
Thanks all.

shadowangel
12-12-2005, 10:44 PM
I did--I still have the same list of questions I would need answered before I would decide anything on this case. Strange LE didn't think it necessary. But, as with another case some of us are deeply involved in, its much easier to say "suicide" or "accident" than to answer the hard questions.

Maybe I'm just cynical.

Yaya
12-13-2005, 11:04 AM
Hi MyJessieAngel,

I spent most of the morning reading all the information on Ricky's case. It is very sad. I know personally how this can become an obsession. I spent years trying to prove my cousin did not commit suicide. Several pieces of info I read on Ricky's case were so similar to my cousins. She cashed her paycheck and paid her rent, all her due bills, and then the remainder of her check was missing.

She was found dead in her apartment. Shot through the back of the head. No finger prints on gun. No residue on hand. No drugs in her system. There seemed to have been a struggle in her apartment. Apartment cleaned immediately after police left, by owner. Her mother had all testing done privately due to LE feeling it was an open and closed case of suicide. There were so many subtle clues that people would not understand unless they knew her. She did not commit suicide.

At the time of her death she had made statements to the effect that she was going to go public with information about a known drug dealer and his connection to local police officers (there were 3 officers that knew that he was a dealer, but they turned their heads and let him deal drugs out of his business along with other illegal activities). This dealer ruined the lives of many young girls in our area. My cousin succeeded in getting one of them out of his grip. This made the dealer mad. She told him to his face he was going down, she would see to it. He hired a hit man (a friend of his) to kill her. I cannot prove it. Years later I talked with one of the crooked cops (the only one left on the force); he had made captain and had his own office. I was at the police station getting mug shots from old cases for my book. I asked him if we could talk, he said sure. I knew he had been at the crime scene. I ask him if he remembered my cousins death and he said yes. I told him I didn't think she committed suicide and wanted to know what he thought. He said, "Excuse me, let me shut this door" He shut the door to his office and proceeded to tell me that I should not dwell on it and that the man who killed my cousin was on death row in another state... "But if you ever tell anyone I said this I will say you are lying"

This confirmed all that I suspected about each person involved. But to keep myself safe I had to just swallow my pride and keep my mouth shut. The dealer was still running his business and selling drugs at the time of my conversation with the captain. I knew there was nothing I could do to prove anything.

Justice was served when the killer was put to death in Virginia for the murder of a young man (drug dealer) in 2003. The business man who hired the killer was free and living the good life, but not for long. I made it my mission in life to take the things he cherished most... his business and his money!

He didn't know me or my connection to the young woman he had murdered. I got proof he was dealing cocain out of his business and also buying food stamps for cash (federal offence). He no longer has a business (the government owns it now), is $343,000.00 in hidden cash poorer, and spends his days in a federal prison.

Sometimes we have to get justice in a different way... just make sure it is done legally.

hoppyfrog
12-13-2005, 11:16 AM
Justice was served when the killer was put to death in Virginia for the murder of a young man (drug dealer) in 2003. The business man who hired the killer was free and living the good life, but not for long. I made it my mission in life to take the things he cherished most... his business and his money!

He didn't know me or my connection to the young woman he had murdered. I got proof he was dealing cocain out of his business and also buying food stamps for cash (federal offence). He no longer has a business (the government owns it now), is $343,000.00 in hidden cash poorer, and spends his days in a federal prison.

Sometimes we have to get justice in a different way... just make sure it is done legally.
Way to go! I admire your determination and success in pursuing justice.

Hoppy

Yaya
12-13-2005, 07:47 PM
Way to go! I admire your determination and success in pursuing justice.

Hoppy
Thank You Hoppy

MyJessieAngel
12-13-2005, 09:51 PM
Way to go! I admire your determination and success in pursuing justice.

Hoppy
Ditto here too, Yaya! :)

MyJessieAngel
12-13-2005, 10:07 PM
I did--I still have the same list of questions I would need answered before I would decide anything on this case. Strange LE didn't think it necessary. But, as with another case some of us are deeply involved in, its much easier to say "suicide" or "accident" than to answer the hard questions.

Maybe I'm just cynical.
Must be a guy thing. :silenced: LOL.....jk

Yaya
12-17-2005, 10:43 PM
Ditto here too, Yaya! :)Thanks MyJessieAngel

I hope Ricky’s family can find the answers they are looking for. I don't believe for one minute he committed suicide. :(

Just speculation, but...
I think the personal items in the trunk were there because he was leaving but didn't have enough time to collect all his things. I think he may have left (before he could get everything) to avoid an argument or to end one... and was planning on coming back later to get the rest of his things. He probably drove around awhile to chill out and parked thinking he would just wait until he could go back to his apartment. I think someone followed him. I think that person brought Ricky's gun to the scene and that is why it was not in it's case... like it would have been if Ricky had brought it there.

My heart really goes out to his entire family.

jodierenee
12-28-2006, 05:13 AM
bumping this thread. Here is a very informative link I found regarding his case.


http://www.realcrimes.com/Dyer/rickydyer.htm

Teraisa
04-02-2011, 11:40 PM
Ricky Lenn Dyer, Jr. has a Facebook page, will you please join and pass the link around for others? We need to get the word out and get a new investigation. Justice needs to be done! Thank you. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002252738017