Suspect Drew Peterson

[Indy Gal]

Lets talk about DP here

[WindChime]

I think that he is one evil man. IMO I believe that he did murder his 3rd wife and now his 4th wife Stacy. I also because that is a lot of corruption in the BPD and also the past DA and now the "good old boy blue code" is going to start crumbbling.

[nanandjim]

I also believe that he is a very crooked cop who allowed drug dealing in his bar and took kickbacks, etc. This cop--and his crooked buddies--is very scary. I am very thankful that I don't live in that area! :eek: Can you imagine being married to a guy like this? Poor Kathleen didn't have a chance. She could not have done anything more other than get a gun for protection. Then, if she managed, to kill her attacker, she would be sitting in prison for life...

[calidreamin]

I also believe that he is a very crooked cop who allowed drug dealing in his bar and took kickbacks, etc. This cop--and his crooked buddies--is very scary. I am very thankful that I don't live in that area! :eek: Can you imagine being married to a guy like this? Poor Kathleen didn't have a chance. She could not have done anything more other than get a gun for protection. Then, if she managed, to kill her attacker, she would be sitting in prison for life...

I agree with everything you wrote here nan. I would be very frightened to live in that area also. I am so disgusted that Kathleen did everything possible to seek help and no one helped her. Those people that aided that pig in the brutalizing of her should be charged as well. It is just unbelievable the way he was allowed to get away with anything. I also think if Stacey's story hadn't caught national attention it probably would have been swept under the rug too.

[cheko1]

I agree with Calidreamin!
Without the National media DP would of gotten away with murder again.I think he was counting on the code of silence & nobody for a second question anything he had to say.

After looking at pix of his home & all of his whistles & bells he is definately a dirty cop. I sincerely hope any & all who helped cover up these crimes loose there jobs & people get better living conditions in Illinois.

Nobody should be above the law......the walls are closing in on DP as they should be. Lets pray the looser don't get away with anything this time. This type of law is totally wrong & someone needs to clean up this place.

[calidreamin]

I agree with Calidreamin!
Without the National media DP would of gotten away with murder again.I think he was counting on the code of silence & nobody for a second question anything he had to say.

After looking at pix of his home & all of his whistles & bells he is definately a dirty cop. I sincerely hope any & all who helped cover up these crimes loose there jobs & people get better living conditions in Illinois.

Nobody should be above the law......the walls are closing in on DP as they should be. Lets pray the looser don't get away with anything this time. This type of law is totally wrong & someone needs to clean up this place.Well said cheko someone definately needs to clean that place up. It is inexusable that a police officer is allowed to run a complete campaign of terror and get away with it. I also think he was a dirty cop. He does have alot of bells and whistles for someone on a cops salary.

[Indy Gal]

I just wanted to post I cant believe how DP is all ME ME ME. Not once have I heard him say anything about his missing wife, other than she is where she wants to be. BAD COP DP!!! I think we may blow the lid off this PD in the next coming weeks....So sad

[calidreamin]

I just wanted to post I cant believe how DP is all ME ME ME. Not once have I heard him say anything about his missing wife, other than she is where she wants to be. BAD COP DP!!! I think we may blow the lid off this PD in the next coming weeks....So sad

That shows he is a sociopath personality. They can only focus on their needs and wants and they have no concern for anyone else. In his way of thinking whatever he did to Kathlen or Stacey was their fault ...they made him do it.

[dee10134]

I just hope that justice will be rightfully be served.

[Leila]

I think that he is one evil man. IMO I believe that he did murder his 3rd wife and now his 4th wife Stacy. I also because that is a lot of corruption in the BPD and also the past DA and now the "good old boy blue code" is going to start crumbbling.

I agree. I feel this case may very well have multiple aspects to it - the death of Stacy, the death of Kathleen, corruption among LE that led to a cover-up of a murder, and authorities further up the chain that participated in the cover-up. The resulting investigation might lead to other cases being resolved.

[mysteriew]

Things DP has said that made me question him:

He was asleep when she left- but he had details of what she was wearing.
He knew the detail that she took her bikini
He said they had a good marriage- yet family info contradicts that.
He said that she had "mood disorders" since her sisters death and is on medication for depression- yet he doesn't seem too concerned that she might be suicidal.
He says that she left her children- with the allegations of abuse, I just don't see her leaving the children there.
He says that she left for Jamaica with another man- but with 4 kids, a house to care for, a husband and nursing school- I just don't see her having a lot of time for an extra-marital relationship. And with the families allegations of stalking- he would have known about a man before this.

[JerzWhim]

Things DP has said that made me question him...

Someone posted an interesting comment of DPs when the media first picked up on Stacey's disappearance -- something along the lines of DP's response by saying "she's only missing" (i.e. why all the fuss?)

Why all the fuss indeed?

[Leila]

Things DP has said that made me question him:

He was asleep when she left- but he had details of what she was wearing.
He knew the detail that she took her bikini
He said they had a good marriage- yet family info contradicts that.
He said that she had "mood disorders" since her sisters death and is on medication for depression- yet he doesn't seem too concerned that she might be suicidal.
He says that she left her children- with the allegations of abuse, I just don't see her leaving the children there.
He says that she left for Jamaica with another man- but with 4 kids, a house to care for, a husband and nursing school- I just don't see her having a lot of time for an extra-marital relationship. And with the families allegations of stalking- he would have known about a man before this.

There's a lot of inconsistencies with what DP has said. According to the timelines, Stacy's sister, Cassandra, was out looking for her sister on that Sunday night. She called DP at about 11:00pm, and he said he was home, but Cassandra knew he wasn't because she had just driven down the street or was in the neighborhood and knew he wasn't home.

[Leila]

I think DP had help in disposing of Stacy. The fact that both vehicles were in the driveway up to about 1:30pm (according to neighbor Sharon Bychowsky) and then missing from the driveway for a long period of time after 1:30pm, leads one to think there had to be someone else driving one of the cars.

Does anyone else feel DP had help?

[mysteriew]

Someone posted an interesting comment of DPs when the media first picked up on Stacey's disappearance -- something along the lines of DP's response by saying "she's only missing" (i.e. why all the fuss?)

Why all the fuss indeed?

Oh, yeah I forgot that one. That comment just made him sound so suprised that people were even paying attention to her being missing.

[nanandjim]

I agree. I feel this case may very well have multiple aspects to it - the death of Stacy, the death of Kathleen, corruption among LE that led to a cover-up of a murder, and authorities further up the chain that participated in the cover-up. The resulting investigation might lead to other cases being resolved.
This certainly is what it sounds like. The entire echelon from bottom to top needs to be investigated.

I do think that he bought all of his "toys" using the money that he received from the murder of his third wife. Six hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money. This guy probably spent a minimal amount of money on his kids and new wife. It was all about him.

I really feel sorry for those kids, especially the two by Kathleen. I hope that her family works hard to get custody of them. I bet that they are scared to death to act up for fear that they will be murdered like their mother and stepmother was. I guarantee the older children could tell some stories. I hope that they are not too afraid to tell the truth. As an adult, I wouldn't know who to trust in that town. Can you imagine how a child would feel, knowing that their father was on the police force??

[nanandjim]

Oh, yeah I forgot that one. That comment just made him sound so suprised that people were even paying attention to her being missing.
He was thinking no one would care about Stacy because she was a nobody with a bad childhood. He probably figured if his third wife got no media attention, why should this one? This is his worst nightmare. With the media glare, this town has no choice but to now investigate this entire situation.

[mysteriew]

Those kids are what get to me. The adult children who have to have seen things, but felt helpless to change them.
The children by Kathleen- saw her abused and were harmed by it, then went through the contested divorce, then had to live through her death and make a new life with the man who they had seen abuse their mother. Then as they are making a new life with Stacy after she adopted them, they lose her too.
The children by Stacy, too young to understand why their mother isn't coming to them, why everyone around them is so tense, and they will most likely grow up without a memory of their mother.

[curiositycat]

Indy; maybe in his perverted mind she is where she wants to be "Dead"...she may of expressed to him that she would rather be "dead" then stay married to him.
Also Indy; who had that picture of a corn cob? Wish we could find that and put his face on it;)


I just wanted to post I cant believe how DP is all ME ME ME. Not once have I heard him say anything about his missing wife, other than she is where she wants to be. BAD COP DP!!! I think we may blow the lid off this PD in the next coming weeks....So sad

[Leila]

He was thinking no one would care about Stacy because she was a nobody with a bad childhood. He probably figured if his third wife got no media attention, why should this one? This is his worst nightmare. With the media glare, this town has no choice but to now investigate this entire situation.

Right now DP is holed up in his home with the two youngest children. I find myself wondering if he will continue to remain in seclusion, or will he bolt?

[JerzWhim]

This is his worst nightmare. With the media glare, this town has no choice but to now investigate this entire situation.

You bet it is his worst nightmare and I hope he is feeling that glare all the time.

If I had a sibling who was so accused under similar circumstances, I don't think I would be as supportive as Drew's brother.

[englishleigh]

Indy; maybe in his perverted mind she is where she wants to be "Dead"...she may of expressed to him that she would rather be "dead" then stay married to him.
Also Indy; who had that picture of a corn cob? Wish we could find that and put his face on it;)

I just had that thought, too. That that's what he means by "she is where she wants to be"
Sicko.

[angelmom]

Indy; maybe in his perverted mind she is where she wants to be "Dead"...she may of expressed to him that she would rather be "dead" then stay married to him.

I just had that thought, too. That that's what he means by "she is where she wants to be"
Sicko.

That was exactly my thought as well. Like she might have said in anger something along the lines of "I'd rather rot in hell than spend another minute with you."

And he's thinking, "You got your wish." He's evil.

[nanandjim]

If I had a sibling who was so accused under similar circumstances, I don't think I would be as supportive as Drew's brother.
I haven't read or seen anything where his brother is vocally supporting him. I can tell you that most people know how their siblings are. I would at the very least keep my piehole shut.

[Sedona]

Drew is a case book example of one with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Missing Mom's Husband Has 'Nothing To Hide' - News Story - WMAQ | Chicago (http://www.nbc5.com/news/14474620/detail.html)

The article is from Nov. 2 and mainly quotes her husband over and over again.

There are many sections that raise eyebrows but here is red flag statement

"This is receiving national coverage," Peterson said. "I won't be able to go anywhere and show my face anywhere, without people pointing, or coming up to me, or giving some sort of abuse over this."

His wife is missing, her whereabouts unknown and he seems not concerned at all, only in how this makes HIM look.

IF they don't find that body or break him down soon, she will remain missing, her body will never be recovered and he will deny this to his grave. That is the workings of this disorder.

Best of luck to those who have sacrificed time, sleep, mental health to be out there searching day after day for her.

[mysteriew]

You bet it is his worst nightmare and I hope he is feeling that glare all the time.

If I had a sibling who was so accused under similar circumstances, I don't think I would be as supportive as Drew's brother.

I don't blame the family so much. Siblings will often follow the parents lead- at least publicly. And how many parents will accept the child's guilt, without the physical proof right in front of them? Some families (and friends) will continue to deny right up until the trial. Denial is much easier than accepting that someone they love could do something so horrible.

Think about it like this- if it was your son, could you accept that he could kill? How much proof would it take to make you believe? Would you admit it publicaly? Or would you feel that admitting your doubts publicly that it might be possible might make it worse for him, and you? At a time when your child/sibling/parent was so worried and upset- wouldn't you feel it your duty as a parent/sibling/child to be supportive? And don't forget- this family is most likely highly aware that if convicted of this that DP (their child/sibling/parent) could be facing either a life sentence or the death penalty.

The family right now is between a rock and a hard place.

[Tom'sGirl]

I haven't read or seen anything where his brother is vocally supporting him. I can tell you that most people know how their siblings are. I would at the very least keep my piehole shut.

Either have I nan, in the video he says he's there for the kids. Now on the other hand with DP's mom being elderly and listening to her phone interview she may be supporting her son. She seemed to be uninformed about a lot of things during his years with Kathleen or Stacy.

[Sedona]

And this is just the kind of person a man like Drew Peterson would target. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/644521,CST-NWS-boling11.article

Somebody who thought he was a Knight in Shinning Armor. :twocents:

[Indy Gal]

Indy; maybe in his perverted mind she is where she wants to be "Dead"...she may of expressed to him that she would rather be "dead" then stay married to him.
Also Indy; who had that picture of a corn cob? Wish we could find that and put his face on it;)
Siesie made that photo....CLASSIC!!!

[SeriouslySearching]

Has anyone checked out the Dating websites for Drew? I would expect to see him on one like Bobby Cutts'. His need to feed his ego would be a reason. It wouldn't surprise me if he was on more than one chatting it up with other women.

[Littledeer]

What words can possibly describe this Cowardly Lion who believes/thinks that killing is the answer to anyone/anything that gets in his way of projecting his image as the all perfect macho cop who can do anything and is above the law?? NONE........

If there are any words, they are not in the Bible but in a Psychiatrist's manual.

[Indy Gal]

Has anyone checked out the Dating websites for Drew? I would expect to see him on one like Bobby Cutts'. His need to feed his ego would be a reason. It wouldn't surprise me if he was on more than one chatting it up with other women.
You have now been elected LOL

[SeriouslySearching]

You have now been elected LOLI would love to, but I am afraid I will have to take a raincheck on this! (Still taking care of my daughter and my grands...so little time to be online! Haven't ya missed me?! LOL)

[Indy Gal]

I would love to, but I am afraid I will have to take a raincheck on this! (Still taking care of my daughter and my grands...so little time to be online! Haven't ya missed me?! LOL)
I have been wonderin where you were...Come to chat!!!

[JerzWhim]

I don't blame the family so much....

The family right now is between a rock and a hard place.

I am being unkind. You are absolutely right.

In situations like this, I am always reminded of Mark Hacking's noble family who got Mark to work with authorities and basically do the right thing when Mark murdered poor Lori. I guess that is how I think I would act were my sibling to do something that terrible.

[fundiva]

I totally believe it is something like that. I had a friend who was married to a cop for years. He was a very nice guy if you just knew him casually, but every day he would drink a half case of beer starting in the morning. She finally got tired of the drinking and abusive behavior. She said it was typical of all the cops she knew (friends of hubbies). Anyway, he got drunk one day and went to her shop (she owned her own business) with weapons, handcuffs, etc and tied her, her assistant and her new boyfriend up. One of my other friends called her at the shop and her husband answered the phone (which she thought was odd since they were split). He told the caller that she was "all tied up" but he would give her the message that she called. Sick SOB

[Leila]

This is a comment from Gretawire posted by Friend of Wife#2 at 8:33am today.

Comment by Friend Of Wife#2 November 13th, 2007 at 8:33 am (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/12/post-your-monday-night-show-comments-right-here/#comment-71230)

Greta,
Just a few comments about last night’s show. I was a friend of Vicki’s (WIFE#2) while she was married to Drew in the 80’s. I lost touch with her around 1990 because I moved out of state. This is my observation of their marriage from what I actually witnessed.
Lisa (who was on your show last night) was just a little girl. Vicki also was step-mom to Drew’s 2 boys from his first marriage, They were both younger than Lisa. Both are also adults now. Vicki took good care of them on their visitation weeknds, etc.
Drew was very controlling, followed her around, she really could not have any friends that he did not approve of. I was one of the few Vicki was able to have. They had alot of arguments and she was always under pressure to explain why, when, where, and who she was with. Even as it related to her job. She was working full time. He was under investigation by the department and things were extremely tense. Drew was very strick with Lisa. It was not the happiest of homes.
I am glad Vicki is away from Drew. I know he was an abusive husband in very many ways. He treated Vicki like a possession. Lisa’s interview was difficult for me to watch because I knew people would question the authenticity of her answers. I’m not sure why she would even do an interview. I can tell you the things she said Drew did, tapping phones, verbal abuse. No doubt in my mind it was the truth. She stated facts about her life in the home with him. Vicki … You are away from him. Stay away. I wish I could contact you and tell you how glad I am that you have a life now. You always deserved more.
I do not know of Drew’s guilt or innocence. I know, having served a a jury, “Guilty Beyond a Reasonable Doubt” is a powerful statement. When faced with making a decision on a person’s quilt or innocence there must be many more facts/evidence than what we have here. I don’t know Lisa’s intent on granting the interview. Just know this…she wasn’t lying about the stuff that went on.
I also know that if I ran away to escape abuse… not matter how difficult …I would have found a way to let my family know I was safe. I pray for Stacy.

[Littledeer]

Wow, that was one poweful statement from that friend!!!

I also agree that anyone that is safe from DP now, should stay that way. But if they can safely talk or help in anyway, without jeopardizing their safety, I hope they can.

If only to ensure that this guy is behind jail SOON.

God Bless you all!

[TGIRecovered]

I am being unkind. You are absolutely right.

In situations like this, I am always reminded of Mark Hacking's noble family who got Mark to work with authorities and basically do the right thing when Mark murdered poor Lori. I guess that is how I think I would act were my sibling to do something that terrible.

Me too. I wouldn't cover for anyone abusing or murdering someone, relative or not. Family secrets perpetuate more hurt, they protect no one, IMO.
Kudos to the Hackings for stepping up to face the truth while continuing to love their son even though he did an awful thing.

Susan

[SeriouslySearching]

In regards to that poster wondering why Vicky's daughter would come forward for an interview is very simple to me and very brave.

She spent most of her formative years around his abuse and this is her way of letting him know she has power now. She made it a huge point to let him know she was no longer afraid of him even if her mother was. KUDOS TO LISA!!!

I think her coming forward helps to close the walls in tighter on DP by giving us the actual pattern of his behavior with abuse and cheating on the wivese with the soon to be new wives. This is very enlightening and I am sure something LE needs to examine further in this case.

[busybee]

I was just watching his interview on Today with Matt, what a weirdo. He does not know this and that, all his wives had emotional problems, blah, blah.......Due to him I bet!
Also he said Stacy WAS a great mother, WAS?? Hmmmmm.........Takes me back to another husband named Peterson who said WAS!

[TiaDaxxy1980]

Things DP has said that made me question him:

He was asleep when she left- but he had details of what she was wearing.
He knew the detail that she took her bikini
He said they had a good marriage- yet family info contradicts that.
He said that she had "mood disorders" since her sisters death and is on medication for depression- yet he doesn't seem too concerned that she might be suicidal.
He says that she left her children- with the allegations of abuse, I just don't see her leaving the children there.
He says that she left for Jamaica with another man- but with 4 kids, a house to care for, a husband and nursing school- I just don't see her having a lot of time for an extra-marital relationship. And with the families allegations of stalking- he would have known about a man before this.


Very well put!!!

[browneyedgirl]

I wonder if Stacy knew what happened to Kathy? (I believe that DP killed her, as I'm sure most do) if Stacy knew, and was trying to seperate from him, like her family has said, maybe he snapped and knew that she couldn't leave him with that kind of info. Maybe that was what they were arguing about?

[browneyedgirl]

I was just watching his interview on Today with Matt, what a weirdo. He does not know this and that, all his wives had emotional problems, blah, blah.......Due to him I bet!
Also he said Stacy WAS a great mother, WAS?? Hmmmmm.........Takes me back to another husband named Peterson who said WAS!

Good catch, BB. :clap: I was thinking of SP as well.

[browneyedgirl]

In regards to that poster wondering why Vicky's daughter would come forward for an interview is very simple to me and very brave.

She spent most of her formative years around his abuse and this is her way of letting him know she has power now. She made it a huge point to let him know she was no longer afraid of him even if her mother was. KUDOS TO LISA!!!

I think her coming forward helps to close the walls in tighter on DP by giving us the actual pattern of his behavior with abuse and cheating on the wivese with the soon to be new wives. This is very enlightening and I am sure something LE needs to examine further in this case.

ITA, SS :clap: Did you catch when she said that he had threatened her mother as well, saying "I could kill you and make it look like an accident" I had to pick my chin up off the floor.....
How many wives is he going to get away with killing before they lock his sorry @** up?:confused:

[snoopy]

On the Today show he was making himself out to be the victim, saying he just wanted the media to leave him alone. Poor baby! He also asked if there was anyone out there that could help him with HIS case. How about asking for help to find her!

Oh, and when asked about Stacy, he chuckled and said as if he were talking to her, "Come home. Quit hiding." What a jerk!!! Even if he was innocent and thought she took off, wouldn't he consider a remote possibility that something terrible might have happened? Instead, because of his probable guilt, he's already gearing up for his defense trial.

[SuziQ]

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=98456f87-5fda-422e-a4c2-285b8e94a648

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=ca576dfa-87a0-45e2-8542-46baa69f8c75

[SuziQ]

I was utterly disgusted when he said, IIRC, Stacy asked him for a divorce everytime she had her period.

What a PIG!!!

[SuziQ]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_14nov14,0,7393028.story?coll=chi_tab01_la yout

A source familiar with the cases said Drew Peterson, who was suspended without pay last week, turned in a resignation letter Monday to the Bolingbrook Police Department. The source would not say whether the 29-year veteran's resignation was accepted.

Police spokesman Lt. Ken Teppel would not confirm the letter was received but said "more information would be made available tomorrow." Drew Peterson is facing an internal investigation in connection with the Savio and Stacy Peterson cases, he said.

The internal affairs case is not complete, Teppel said, but once it is, a report will be turned over to the Fire and Police Commission of Bolingbrook, which will decide whether to pursue termination proceedings against Drew Peterson.

Messages left for Drew Peterson's first wife have not been returned, and family members of his second wife have declined to comment.

[Cakegirl]

I was utterly disgusted when he said, IIRC, Stacy asked him for a divorce everytime she had her period.

What a PIG!!!


I was just thinking the same thing! It's always her, her, her... she did this, she did that --> never what HE did! Nope reflect all the bad on her and the good funny, nice, good guy stuff on him.

:chicken: What a big chicken -- and then to have the nerve to try to get a lawyer during the interview.

[SuziQ]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/video/?slug=chi-petersonvideo-wn

[Taximom]

WHAT an a$$hole. She hit him and he never hit her?! The emails are fabricated ("as a lot of things are in this case")??? :rolleyes:

"I would be in her face and she hated being cornered." Uh yeah, who doesn't? :rolleyes:

"She never told me she was seeing another man...well, maybe she did." Hmm, Drew, I think that's something I would remember. :waitasec: :rolleyes:

YEAH. That's like Scott Peterson saying "Laci was ok with my affair with Amber." :rolleyes:

:mad:

"I gave a full account of the story" to police." The story, Drew? I hope you got all your stories straight.

Unbelievable.

[SuziQ]

"Stacy – I'm not trying to be funny here – but Stacy asked me for a divorce after her sister died; on a regular basis," Peterson said. "I'm not trying to be funny, but it was based on her menstrual cycle."

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.567280.html

[Taximom]

I'm listening to the 2nd half now, and I still can't believe him! Stacy asked him for a divorce everytime she menstruated?

How much of his psyche is driven by his childhood? Why can he only handle women as long as they are fun and romantic? What happens when the wives turn into mothers or go through a crisis that he can't handle it?

He just wants the sex and fun in life, no problems? Good luck with that.

[indallas2]

WHAT an a$$hole. She hit him and he never hit her?! The emails are fabricated ("as a lot of things are in this case")??? :rolleyes:

"I would be in her face and she hated being cornered." Uh yeah, who doesn't? :rolleyes:

"She never told me she was seeing another man...well, maybe she did." Hmm, Drew, I think that's something I would remember. :waitasec: :rolleyes:

YEAH. That's like Scott Peterson saying "Laci was ok with my affair with Amber." :rolleyes:

:mad:

"I gave a full account of the story" to police." The story, Drew? I hope you got all your stories straight.

Unbelievable.

WOW!!! I didn't see DP on The Today Show this morning but just reading what everyone is saying that he said is really so reminiscent of Scott Peterson. Don't these guys listen to what they are saying????

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

[Taximom]

WOW!!! I didn't see DP on The Today Show this morning but just reading what everyone is saying that he said is really so reminiscent of Scott Peterson. Don't these guys listen to what they are saying????

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

The video links are posted above. You really have to watch them to believe this. It is unbelievable, isn't it?!

I wish his cell phone had gone off during the interview so we could watch him ignore it.

[dee10134]

CROSS POST FROM MAIN STACY THREAD:

BLINK COUNT FROM THE TODAY SHOW VIDEO:

TOTAL VIDEO TIME: 6 minutes 26 seconds

0:01 - 1:00 = 0 blinks (Matt Lauer giving background info; DP not on camera)
1:01 - 2:01 = 38 blinks
2:02 - 3:02 = 30 blinks
3:03 - 4:03 = 35 blinks
4:04 - 5:04 = 46 blinks
5:05 - 6:05 = 40 blinks
6:06 - 6:26 = 15 blinks

Experts say that humans blink, on average 20 times per minute. During this video, DP blinked a total of 204 times in 6 minutes and 26 seconds (that I could count) making an average blink rate of 31.68 times per minute, well over the average human blink rate.

It is well known that rapid blinking is a sign of lying through rapid thinking. Experts say that rapid thinking causes blinking to become more rapid. It could also be a sign of being under pressure, but DP looked cool, calm, and collected, even a bit cocky.

"Eye Tells
Most people believe that gaze aversion is a sign of lying. They assume that because liars feel guilty, embarrassed and apprehensive, they find it difficult to look their victim in the eye. This is not what happens. First, patterns of gaze are quite unstable - while some liars avert their eyes, others actually increase the amount of time they spend looking at the other person.
As gaze is fairly easy to control, liars can use their eyes to project an image of honesty. Knowing that other people assume gaze aversion is a sign of lying, many liars do the exact opposite - they deliberately increase their gaze to give the impression that they're telling the truth.
Another supposed sign of lying is rapid blinking. It's true that when we become aroused or our mind is racing, there's a corresponding increase in our blinking rate. Our normal rate is about 20 blinks per minute, but it can increase to four or five times that figure when we feel under pressure. When liars are searching for an answer to an awkward question, their thought processes speed up. In this kind of situation, lying is frequently associated with blinking. But we need to remember that there are times when people have a high blinking rate, not because they're lying, but because they're under pressure. Also, there are times when liars show normal rates."

Exerpt from article entitled "Dead giveaway": http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...783343045.html (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/11/1057783343045.html)

ETA: I'd be VERY interested in knowing what DP said during those increments in the video. I don't have a sound card on my PC at work, so I cannot hear the video.

[calidreamin]

The video links are posted above. You really have to watch them to believe this. It is unbelievable, isn't it?!

I wish his cell phone had gone off during the interview so we could watch him ignore it.

I will say it is unbelievable! I really can't believe this guy has gotten away with so much for so long.

[Bigfoot]

When Matt Lauer asked DP about his relationship with Kathleen Savio he said it was great at first but after she had the kids, her hormones kicked in ... blame it on the hormones.

[Squishified]

He must be the most hated man in America right now.

[indallas2]

He must be the most hated man in America right now.

Yup, I second that!

[Bigfoot]

Ok, it's official now, his resignation has been made public.
<http://www.nbc5.com/tu/5tlHIvnZl.html (http://www.nbc5.com/tu/5tlHIvnZl.html)>

[SuziQ]

The Mayor of Bolingbrook has now enabled Drew to resign from the Bolingbrook Police Department, allowing Drew to halt any further internal investigations and allowing him to collect his pension. Against the wishes of the Chief of Police. What a crock!

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/just-in-update-in-sgt-peterson-story/

by Greta Van Susteren
Spoke to OTR Producer Steph Watts a few seconds ago….he got his hands on information about Sgt. Peterson’s resignation. Sgt. Peterson handed it in, the Chief of Police denied the request to resign because there are internal charges pending. The Chief of Police then sent a letter to the Mayor Claar and members of the Board of Fire and Police Commission - they overruled the Chief. As a result Sgt Peterson has officially resigned (his resignation accepted), he will get his full pension and the internal charges will not be further investigated (and we don’t know now - but we may be 10pm eastern for ON THE RECORD - what those internal charges are..whether they are significant charges or insignificant charges.)

[Bigfoot]

I think the pending internal charges relate to legitimate police work where he granted permission for an officer to conduct a high-speed chase and it was deemed unecessary. (Cops need to get permission from their superiors for any chases).

[SuziQ]

I think the pending internal charges relate to legitimate police work where he granted permission for an officer to conduct a high-speed chase and it was deemed unecessary. (Cops need to get permission from their superiors for any chases).

The fact is, we don't know exactly what all the internal investigation entails.

[SuziQ]

What would motivate a Mayor to use his powers to make such a quick decision to an investigation and allow someone to collect a pension when they probably shouldn't. There is no reason this shouldn't been allowed to be played out under the authority of the Chief of Police.

[ISPTRAX]

What would motivate a Mayor to use his powers to make such a quick decision to an investigation and allow someone to collect a pension when they probably shouldn't. There is no reason this shouldn't been allowed to be played out under the authority of the Chief of Police.

I'm almost sure we'd find things out about Mr. Mayor, too, in those internal investigations of Mr. Wife Killer.

[SuziQ]

I'm almost sure we'd find things out about Mr. Mayor, too, in those internal investigations of Mr. Wife Killer.

Exactly! Arrrgh! This has just pissed me off so badly!



***Ric, if you are reading this, do not trust the Mayor, he is NOT your friend!!!***

[TGIRecovered]

I was just thinking the same thing! It's always her, her, her... she did this, she did that --> never what HE did! Nope reflect all the bad on her and the good funny, nice, good guy stuff on him.

:chicken: What a big chicken -- and then to have the nerve to try to get a lawyer during the interview.


What, the lawyers he has now don't want him? :boohoo: He said he had stopped talking to police after he got lawyers who told him not to cooperate.

I guess there are some things even some defense lawyers just won't do!:D

Susan

[TGIRecovered]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ISPTRAX http://websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1793462#post1793462)
I'm almost sure we'd find things out about Mr. Mayor, too, in those internal investigations of Mr. Wife Killer.



Exactly! Arrrgh! This has just pissed me off so badly!



***Ric, if you are reading this, do not trust the Mayor, he is NOT your friend!!!***


Bingo! I believe there must be several people who don't want the truth about Drew's past indescretions to come out for fear of being called out on their own illegal activities and other embarassing info.

Susan

[justbetweenus]

How much of his psyche is driven by his childhood? Why can he only handle women as long as they are fun and romantic? What happens when the wives turn into mothers or go through a crisis that he can't handle it?


I caught how he said that both Kathleen and Stacy were fun and romantic at the beginning of their relationships. I wonder if he gets sexually turned off of his wives after the 2nd child.

[calidreamin]

What would motivate a Mayor to use his powers to make such a quick decision to an investigation and allow someone to collect a pension when they probably shouldn't. There is no reason this shouldn't been allowed to be played out under the authority of the Chief of Police.

There is exactly no reason this shouldn't have been allowed to play out. This just goes to show That the mayor is in DP's pocket.:razz: :razz: :razz: To the mayor!

[SuziQ]

We all know how Drew has been calling everyone up and lining up his alies. I'm sure he's quick to remind them why they shouldn't switch sides as he told Ric.

[browneyedgirl]

The video links are posted above. You really have to watch them to believe this. It is unbelievable, isn't it?!

I wish his cell phone had gone off during the interview so we could watch him ignore it.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's some funny sh*t, TM. I spit pop all over my keyboard when I read that.

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
We have just learned that the Chief wrote the Mayor and Commission saying he did not want to accept Sgt Peterson’s resignation because of the internal charges - charges that would result in his termination (thus denying him his pension.). The Chief wrote that he thought the public entitled to an open hearing on this. Note that we do not know the internal charges - but it is a red flag that the Chief thought the charges would result in termination. That suggests to me that the internal charges are significant ones - but I can’t be certain without knowing the charges. We will have much more at ten pm on ON THE RECORD.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11...n-resignation/ (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/)

[Jaded]

The Mayor of Bolingbrook has now enabled Drew to resign from the Bolingbrook Police Department, allowing Drew to halt any further internal investigations and allowing him to collect his pension. Against the wishes of the Chief of Police. What a crock!

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/just-in-update-in-sgt-peterson-story/

by Greta Van Susteren
Spoke to OTR Producer Steph Watts a few seconds ago….he got his hands on information about Sgt. Peterson’s resignation. Sgt. Peterson handed it in, the Chief of Police denied the request to resign because there are internal charges pending. The Chief of Police then sent a letter to the Mayor Claar and members of the Board of Fire and Police Commission - they overruled the Chief. As a result Sgt Peterson has officially resigned (his resignation accepted), he will get his full pension and the internal charges will not be further investigated (and we don’t know now - but we may be 10pm eastern for ON THE RECORD - what those internal charges are..whether they are significant charges or insignificant charges.)

I don't understand how or why the Mayor would overrule the Chief.

[justbetweenus]

There is exactly no reason this shouldn't have been allowed to play out. This just goes to show That the mayor is in DP's pocket.:razz: :razz: :razz: To the mayor!

Ditto...unbelieveable!

[SuziQ]

From a commenter at Gretablog:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/

November 14th, 2007 at 1:13 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/#comment-75500)
WBBM-AM 780 radio is reporting that Tim with E. Search said this morning that he is fed up with the politics and “one-upsmanship” in the DP case and may not return because of it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[browneyedgirl]

From a commenter at Gretablog:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/

November 14th, 2007 at 1:13 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/#comment-75500)
WBBM-AM 780 radio is reporting that Tim with E. Search said this morning that he is fed up with the politics and “one-upsmanship” in the DP case and may not return because of it!!!!!!!!!!!!

What horrible news for Stacey and her friends and family. I was wondering how long it would take for politics to play a part in this investigation.

[TGIRecovered]

I don't understand how or why the Mayor would overrule the Chief.

The mayor is the chief's boss, the citizens elect the mayor so he is supposed to answer to the citizens.

I think the mayor doesn't want the incestigation to move forward for fear of what other scandalous info might become known about people other than Drew.

Mr. Mayor is afraid of something...and so is covering his butt, IMO.

Susan

[TGIRecovered]

From a commenter at Gretablog:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/

November 14th, 2007 at 1:13 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/#comment-75500)
WBBM-AM 780 radio is reporting that Tim with E. Search said this morning that he is fed up with the politics and “one-upsmanship” in the DP case and may not return because of it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm... Maybe the "powers that be" are looking to run him off!?

Susan

[Jaded]

The mayor is the chief's boss, the citizens elect the mayor so he is supposed to answer to the citizens.

I think the mayor doesn't want the incestigation to move forward for fear of what other scandalous info might become known about people other than Drew.

Mr. Mayor is afraid of something...and so is covering his butt, IMO.

Susan

I think you may be right. Why else wouldn't he want to complete the internal investigation -- imo, if DP has done something that is against policy then he should answer for it. Allowing his resignation and dropping any investigation is BS. I would like to know what the basis for the internal investigation is. At this point, it could be anything.

[calidreamin]

From a commenter at Gretablog:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/

November 14th, 2007 at 1:13 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/#comment-75500)
WBBM-AM 780 radio is reporting that Tim with E. Search said this morning that he is fed up with the politics and “one-upsmanship” in the DP case and may not return because of it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh no!! That is to bad, what a shame that would be.

[Cakegirl]

From a commenter at Gretablog:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/

November 14th, 2007 at 1:13 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/more-on-sgt-peterson-resignation/#comment-75500)
WBBM-AM 780 radio is reporting that Tim with E. Search said this morning that he is fed up with the politics and “one-upsmanship” in the DP case and may not return because of it!!!!!!!!!!!!


Soooo, so sad! :( BB should be really proud. :snooty:

[Cakegirl]

The mayor is the chief's boss, the citizens elect the mayor so he is supposed to answer to the citizens.

I think the mayor doesn't want the incestigation to move forward for fear of what other scandalous info might become known about people other than Drew.

Mr. Mayor is afraid of something...and so is covering his butt, IMO.

Susan

Yeah, I wonder if Mr. Mayor has any missing wives or ex's?? :silenced:

[Squishified]

Some basic info on the mayor:

http://www.bolingbrook.com/index.php?page_id=2&go=official&disp_id=4

[TGIRecovered]

What, the lawyers he has now don't want him? :boohoo: He said he had stopped talking to police after he got lawyers who told him not to cooperate.

I guess there are some things even some defense lawyers just won't do!:D

Susan

:waitasec: Okay, maybe it's not as funny as I thought. Drew was asking for a lawyer on TV today.
Did anyone get the joke...
Drew asked the press "What do you get when you cross a the media with a pig?"..."Nothing...there are some things a pig just won't do."

I thought his joke was just gross, but it makes more sense when it's applied to a like him.

Susan

[Jaded]

:waitasec: Okay, maybe it's not as funny as I thought. Drew was asking for a lawyer on TV today.
Did anyone get the joke...
Drew asked the press "What do you get when you cross a the media with a pig?"..."Nothing...there are some things a pig just won't do."

I thought his joke was just gross, but it makes more sense when it's applied to a like him.

Susan

I thought his joke was in bad taste, but then there seem to be a lot of things being revealed about him that are in bad taste. He reminds me SO much of Craig Stebic and his interaction with the media.

[TGIRecovered]

Some basic info on the mayor:

http://www.bolingbrook.com/index.php?page_id=2&go=official&disp_id=4

Wonder what would happen if his smiling face was splashed across the news along with the caption: " What is the mayor trying to hide?"

Maybe Drew should lend his patriotic- bandito- stoner get-up to the mayor.

Susan

[ISPTRAX]

Some basic info on the mayor:

http://www.bolingbrook.com/index.php?page_id=2&go=official&disp_id=4

He's been Mayor for TWENTY YEARS????? "Something" is sure keeping him in office for that long :waitasec:

[JerzWhim]

I don't understand how or why the Mayor would overrule the Chief.

As to the "how", that's simply a part of the organizational structure of any USA town: the mayor outranks the police chief.

Now the why is something that needs to be further looked at.

I know in the NYPD that simply bringing onus upon the Department (e.g. doing something negative but not necessarily illegal that brings down the media spotlight) is a cause for dismissal (and when you get dismissed, you lose your pension).

If this happened in the NYPD, there is no way Peterson would have been given his pension during a national uproar over his missing wife. He would have been put on modified assignment, still given a weekly paycheck and just hang out until the investigation results came in.

[Squishified]

Wonder what would happen if his smiling face was splashed across the news along with the caption: " What is the mayor trying to hide?"

Maybe Drew should lend his patriotic- bandito- stoner get-up to the mayor.

Susan

Okay, that was funny!!!

[Bigfoot]

Typical Illinois shady politics. (Gov. Geo. Ryan, etc.)

[Squishified]

Some interesting stuff here:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2007/BolingbrookaCest-Moi/index.php?cp=2&si=1

[ISPTRAX]

Some interesting stuff here:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2007/BolingbrookaCest-Moi/index.php?cp=2&si=1

Omg, what an SOB!!!! Gawd knows what could be dug up on this guy with internal investigations!!!!!!

[browneyedgirl]

Wonder what would happen if his smiling face was splashed across the news along with the caption: " What is the mayor trying to hide?"

Maybe Drew should lend his patriotic- bandito- stoner get-up to the mayor.

Susan

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: LMAO!!!!!!!

[TGIRecovered]

Okay, that was funny!!!

Thank you, Squish and Browneeyedgirl, I feel so much better now!:blowkiss:

Susan

[SuziQ]

Sure makes you wonder why the average homeowner in Bolingbrook is paying 700.00 a month in taxes. Yes a month.

[browneyedgirl]

As to the "how", that's simply a part of the organizational structure of any USA town: the mayor outranks the police chief.

Now the why is something that needs to be further looked at.

I know in the NYPD that simply bringing onus upon the Department (e.g. doing something negative but not necessarily illegal that brings down the media spotlight) is a cause for dismissal (and when you get dismissed, you lose your pension).

If this happened in the NYPD, there is no way Peterson would have been given his pension during a national uproar over his missing wife. He would have been put on modified assignment, still given a weekly paycheck and just hang out until the investigation results came in.

Too bad it wasn't in NYPD. I don't think he should have been reinstated by the BPD after he was dismissed from another LE agency, IMHO. The police are suppose to protect us, not harm or kill people and then cover it up.
The mayor accepting his resignation over the objection of the chief has my hinky meter going into alarm mode. Any thoughts on why that would be? TIA for your response.

[angelmom]

The mayor is the chief's boss, the citizens elect the mayor so he is supposed to answer to the citizens.

I think the mayor doesn't want the incestigation to move forward for fear of what other scandalous info might become known about people other than Drew.

Mr. Mayor is afraid of something...and so is covering his butt, IMO.

Susan


I thought this was an interesting typo. Freudian slip, anyone?:D

[Taximom]

:waitasec: Okay, maybe it's not as funny as I thought. Drew was asking for a lawyer on TV today.
Did anyone get the joke...
Drew asked the press "What do you get when you cross a the media with a pig?"..."Nothing...there are some things a pig just won't do."

I thought his joke was just gross, but it makes more sense when it's applied to a scumbag like him.

Susan
OHHH. I didn't get this because everytime I saw the clip they cut off his answer! I always wondered what it was. Now I get your joke!! :p

I couldn't stand his little finger waving at us while he's all hunched over in his sweatshirt.

Speaking of which, I wonder if the kids remember at this point all the clothes he might have been wearing when Stacy went missing. Not that it will help since her DNA is bound to be all over everything anyway.

**sigh**

[TGIRecovered]

I thought this was an interesting typo. Freudian slip, anyone?:D


OOpsie! My Bad! You are quick, Angelmom, I didn't do it on purpose!

Susan

[Cakegirl]

Some interesting stuff here:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2007/BolingbrookaCest-Moi/index.php?cp=2&si=1

Wow, what a great leader... not! Yes, I agree, he definitely doesn't want to stir the pot anymore --> It looks like he's had enough investigations on himself to last for several lifetimes. :waitasec: What's wrong with these BB voters? And why don't they get him out of there??!? The 2009 election is coming up. Are there any responsible, respected, not crooked officials in BB?

(Oh, and be sure to go back to page 1 also -- more interesting reads about the mayor. The bottom of the article shows the link to page 1.) ;)

[Taximom]

Claar pic here. He saved Clow Airport.
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/040628clow.html

[KatK]

You all have read this latest article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071114/ap_on_re_us/police_officer_s_wife;_ylt=AvwiEGpiZGHvzGhbA_R15Ih H2ocA), right? He's blaming his wife's disappeance on "hormones", saying in essence that she got her period and decided to run away. Yeah....suuuuure! :rolleyes:

NEW YORK - An Illinois police officer who resigned after being named a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife said Wednesday that she had asked him for a divorce — but he thought it was due to hormones.

[JerzWhim]

Too bad it wasn't in NYPD. I don't think he should have been reinstated by the BPD after he was dismissed from another LE agency, IMHO. The police are suppose to protect us, not harm or kill people and then cover it up.
The mayor accepting his resignation over the objection of the chief has my hinky meter going into alarm mode. Any thoughts on why that would be? TIA for your response.

I am floored by the resignation acceptance given the current spotlight on DP and the town. This move, I would think, would only invite further outside scrutiny and possibly intervention on the state level. I am guessing Illinois has something like a state-level Inspector General. If not, then the Attorney General could step in.

It seems obvious that it bears investigation as there are now a lot of new questions that need answering. For starters:

> What is the official procedure for accepting resignations?
> What are the procedures for doing so when the member asking to resign has an open investigation?
> What is Drew's relationship with the mayor or village council (if any relationship exists)?
> What is the town's history for accepting resignations? Are there other resignations or mayoral decisions made on behalf of a village employee that should be looked at more closely?

[browneyedgirl]

I am floored by the resignation acceptance given the current spotlight on DP and the town. This move, I would think, would only invite further outside scrutiny and possibly intervention on the state level. I am guessing Illinois has something like a state-level Inspector General. If not, then the Attorney General could step in.

It seems obvious that it bears investigation as there are now a lot of new questions that need answering. For starters:

> What is the official procedure for accepting resignations?
> What are the procedures for doing so when the member asking to resign has an open investigation?
> What is Drew's relationship with the mayor or village council (if any relationship exists)?
> What is the town's history for accepting resignations? Are there other resignations or mayoral decisions made on behalf of a village employee that should be looked at more closely?

I would think and hope that the media spotlight will backfire and draw even more attention than previous and make the mayor explain his actions. There has to be a connecction between those two somehow, someway.

You asked some really good questions above, they have got my brain working. It would be interesting to see what other ??? we can come up with, as it seems up to this point it's like we are continuing :banghead: seeing how we can't even get a straight answer as to what position KP was found in.:confused:

[Taximom]

You all have read this latest article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071114/ap_on_re_us/police_officer_s_wife;_ylt=AvwiEGpiZGHvzGhbA_R15Ih H2ocA), right? He's blaming his wife's disappeance on "hormones", saying in essence that she got her period and decided to run away. Yeah....suuuuure! :rolleyes:

KatK, did you watch the Today Show videos where he actually says this? (linked above) He's unbelievable.

[KatK]

KatK, did you watch the Today Show videos where he actually says this? (linked above) He's unbelievable.

Er, post number that has the link? Musta missed it... :blushing:

[Taximom]

Er, post number that has the link? Musta missed it... :blushing:

Oh, that's ok. It's so busy here with all the different threads we have about this loser. ENJOY:

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Today Show Interview with Drew Peterson
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=...2-285b8e94a648 (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=98456f87-5fda-422e-a4c2-285b8e94a648)

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=...2-46baa69f8c75 (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=ca576dfa-87a0-45e2-8542-46baa69f8c75)

[rmf]

Here's my theory, (for what it's worth):

I think that Stacy knew that DP killed wife #3. Either she knew because she was involved on a periphery level or she knew because DP told her or alluded to it. I think that she decided she wanted out of the marriage and told DP that if he tried to stop her, she'd expose him as a murderer and for other misconduct. That was MO for him to make her "disappear".

DP looked like a smug, sociopathic pig in the Today interview. I couldn't help but think he acted just like Scott Peterson did.

[Tom'sGirl]

Er, post number that has the link? Musta missed it... :blushing:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1793216&postcount=40

[Taximom]

Here's my theory, (for what it's worth):

I think that Stacy knew that DP killed wife #3. Either she knew because she was involved on a periphery level or she knew because DP told her or alluded to it. I think that she decided she wanted out of the marriage and told DP that if he tried to stop her, she'd expose him as a murderer and for other misconduct. That was MO for him to make her "disappear".

DP looked like a smug, sociopathic pig in the Today interview. I couldn't help but think he acted just like Scott Peterson did.

I can't help but think she felt trapped if she knew or suspected he killed KS. It's not like she could go to the local police department, you know?

I'm torn between something happening like you said, or that it was just another physical fight that ended in her dying.

[KatK]

Here's my theory, (for what it's worth):

I think that Stacy knew that DP killed wife #3. Either she knew because she was involved on a periphery level or she knew because DP told her or alluded to it. <snip>

DP looked like a smug, sociopathic pig in the Today interview. I couldn't help but think he acted just like Scott Peterson did.

If she knew it was by way of his threats. "I'll kill you, JUST LIKE I DID HER, and I'll get away with it!"

[rmf]

Unfortunately this is a sad, sad story that has all the makings of Ann Rule's next best seller. :mad:

[dee10134]

He's been Mayor for TWENTY YEARS????? "Something" is sure keeping him in office for that long :waitasec:

Look at Chicago's Mayor Daley. He's been elected into office over and over again. I think he's been in office now for 18 years!

[KatK]

WAITAMINUTEHERE!!! :waitasec: How can he hear his third wife screaming, then run in to find her dead?! Did anyone else catch this in the Today Interview? :banghead: ETA: About 8 mins 30 secs (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=98456f87-5fda-422e-a4c2-285b8e94a648) into this clip. Ah.... I see now, it was the friend screaming after having found her.

[browneyedgirl]

Here's my theory, (for what it's worth):

I think that Stacy knew that DP killed wife #3. Either she knew because she was involved on a periphery level or she knew because DP told her or alluded to it. I think that she decided she wanted out of the marriage and told DP that if he tried to stop her, she'd expose him as a murderer and for other misconduct. That was MO for him to make her "disappear".

DP looked like a smug, sociopathic pig in the Today interview. I couldn't help but think he acted just like Scott Peterson did.

ITA with you, rmf and posted my thoughts elsewhere. According to KP family, Stacey was with Drew on several occasions when he was harrassing KP (not trying to speak ill of anyone) so maybe she did have more knowledge regarding her, KP, fate.
It seems like Stacey had a very dramatic life and very early on. Poor thing - makes me want to put my arms around her and give her a big ol' hug....if only we could find her.

[rmf]

^^ I wouldnt be surprised if Stacey had a fleeting knowledge of what happened to wife #3. I am not making excuses either- but this girl had lost her mother, was vulnerable and probably easy to manipulate. Sociopaths love people like that and DP probably thought he could groom and control her.

Unfortunately there are a lot of cops out there like DP. Do a google of the name DAVID BRAME. He was the Police Chief in the city of Tacoma, Washington. Read all about HIM and what he did.

[browneyedgirl]

^^ I wouldnt be surprised if Stacey had a fleeting knowledge of what happened to wife #3. I am not making excuses either- but this girl had lost her mother, was vulnerable and probably easy to manipulate. Sociopaths love people like that and DP probably thought he could groom and control her.

Unfortunately there are a lot of cops out there like DP. Do a google of the name DAVID BRAME. He was the Police Chief in the city of Tacoma, Washington. Read all about HIM and what he did.

Yes there are alot of bad cops out there, but I also believe that there are still alot more good ones.
I do believe that Stacey was easy to manipulate as most girls are that have been through tragedy in their young lives. I know I lost my dad when I was 16 and married the first time when I was 19 to a sociopath that tried to kill me so I know exactly what you are talking about, unfortunately it happens all the time

[angelmom]

Well, maybe she didn't know for sure. Like maybe she knew in her heart, but didn't know enough to tell anyone.

Who would she tell? Obviously she couldn't go to the police. They weren't looking too hard at Drew. The mayor is no prize. She didn't have any evidence. So is the FBI or State Police going to listen to the suspicions of the teenaged mistress???

I'm imagining him telling her just enough to screw with her head. Nothing outright, just little things to make her wonder. Vague threats that could be taken multiple ways, that he could explain as innocent misunderstandings by a "hormonal" woman.

Like, "Be careful. I'd hate to lose you." and when he demanded to know where she was all the time..."I just don't want what happened to Kathleen [or "your mother"] to happen to you." etc.

She must have been terrified, and wondering if she was losing it.

[browneyedgirl]

Well, maybe she didn't know for sure. Like maybe she knew in her heart, but didn't know enough to tell anyone.

Who would she tell? Obviously she couldn't go to the police. They weren't looking too hard at Drew. The mayor is no prize. She didn't have any evidence. So is the FBI or State Police going to listen to the suspicions of the teenaged mistress???

I'm imagining him telling her just enough to screw with her head. Nothing outright, just little things to make her wonder. Vague threats that could be taken multiple ways, that he could explain as innocent misunderstandings by a "hormonal" woman.

Like, "Be careful. I'd hate to lose you." and when he demanded to know where she was all the time..."I just don't want what happened to Kathleen [or "your mother"] to happen to you." etc.

She must have been terrified, and wondering if she was losing it.

I completely agree with your post and thoughts. I've thought them myself. Could you imagine how lonely she must have felt, losing 2 sisters when you're little, another sister that you love so much to a horrible disease, and living with the reality that your mom left you too. I just couldn't imagine how sad and alone i'm sure she felt.
And on top of all that - you're married to a complete self centered jerk - i'm sure she knew what kind of man he truely is and that's why she probably wanted out.:twocents:

[ISPTRAX]

I thought this was an interesting typo. Freudian slip, anyone?:D

LOL! And I thought "incestigation" was a pun intended!!!!

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
[/URL]
(Above pic is the Chief of Police in Bolingbrook, Illinois)
All day long I have been blogging about the acceptance of Sgt. Peterson’s resignation from the police department — the acceptance of the resignation opposed by the Chief of Police. The Chief wants to conduct a full investigation of Sgt. Peterson and can’t do it if Peterson is allowed to resign and is no longer on the police force.
I now have a copy of the letter (More at link)

[URL]http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/another-update-on-sgt-petersons-resignation-and-a-disappointed-police-chief/ (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/10/more-news-out-of-bolingbrook-illinois-sgt-peterson-stacy-peterson-story/1936/)

[SuziQ]

LOL! And I thought "incestigation" was a pun intended!!!!

I thought it was the best pun I had seen in a long time!

[Taximom]

Yeah, Peterson is just looking out for himself as usual with that quick resignation letter.

[curiositycat]

Is it just me or do you feel like you could just vomit when you see this guy. I think his arrogance and lack of feeling any emotion could just be the worse of any of the women killers we have had as suspects on WS to date. Not even a tear, not even a look of sorrow and that menstrual cycle comment...he is not anything close to being remorseful or grieving over his missing wife.

[Taximom]

:clap: :clap: :clap: Is it just me or do you feel like you could just vomit when you see this guy. I think his arrogance and lack of feeling any emotion could just be the worse of any of the women killers we have had as suspects on WS to date. Not even a tear, not even a look of sorrow and that menstrual cycle comment...he is not anything close to being remorseful or grieving over his missing wife.

Not even a plea from him re: his children! "PLEASE COME HOME NOW, Stacy, THE KIDS MISS YOU SO MUCH." :mad:

:silenced: :silenced:

[SuziQ]

The below link is an audio of a conversation between Greta and her producer in Brolingbrook. They discuss the resignation and the mayor. Click on the blue audiowave box.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/14/wednesday-gretacast-click-and-eavesdrop/

[TGIRecovered]

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/

Eyes for Lies has a review of DP's Today interview along with her opinion about his honesty. Good reading.

Susan

[TGIRecovered]

Good grief, I just had a thought. I did not see the interview, but the transcript I read said something about the kids being "taken care of" in case DP has to to prison. He almost implied that he had thought out what will happen to them if he gets the death penalty.

WHAT IF he is prepared to pull a "Sound of Music"-type escape after his "performance" in New York? That would explain why he did that interview even though he hates the media and has been hiding his face. You can go anywhere from New York.

People in high places do not want information coming out, they might offer to help him disappear. Although I wonder why they wouldn't just kill him and make it look like suicide. Wouldn't that be karma!

Susan

[STEADFAST]

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Not even a plea from him re: his children! "PLEASE COME HOME NOW, Stacy, THE KIDS MISS YOU SO MUCH." :mad:

:silenced: :silenced:

That is so true! Why, if he really believes Stacy is out there vacationing with some man, would he not plead with her to come home for the children's sake?
It's all so ridiculous. He's not fooling anyone.

[KatK]

He did the interview to get free legal representation. I agree with EyesForLies on this, that's pretty much the sole reason he did the interview. He was more thinking along the lines of "If/when I get life in prison or the death penalty, the kids are taken care of." I think. :twocents:

[justbetweenus]

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/

Eyes for Lies has a review of DP's Today interview along with her opinion about his honesty. Good reading.

Susan

Thank-you for posting this TGIR, very interesting.

[Trino]

He did the interview to get free legal representation. I agree with EyesForLies on this, that's pretty much the sole reason he did the interview. He was more thinking along the lines of "If/when I get life in prison or the death penalty, the kids are taken care of." I think. :twocents:

I agree. The trial(s) will be very expensive. Even if he ends up being declared innocent, he will have spent $$$ to again walk the streets. Sad for the kids.

It's interesting to think of DP in a greedy way. He was 11 days from retirement, but may have wanted it all to himself. Was he one murder away from a perfect criminal life?

[SeriouslySearching]

Give me a break...this man doesn't think in terms of what will happen to his children! He hasn't before so why would anyone think he would start now?! He doesn't give a hoot if his kids are taken care of or he wouldn't be instrumental in "losing" their mother.

[curiositycat]

This was an excellent commentary, the best I have seen or heard regarding the interview. It was right on IMHO. Thanks for the link:blowkiss:

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/

Eyes for Lies has a review of DP's Today interview along with her opinion about his honesty. Good reading.

Susan

[Jaded]

Is it just me or do you feel like you could just vomit when you see this guy. I think his arrogance and lack of feeling any emotion could just be the worse of any of the women killers we have had as suspects on WS to date. Not even a tear, not even a look of sorrow and that menstrual cycle comment...he is not anything close to being remorseful or grieving over his missing wife.

I watched when he didn't look into the camera to ask Stacy to come home and his laugh when asking her to do so. It was the most insincere plea I've ever seen, imo. I would think that if he knows that she left for another man he would look directly into the camera and ask her to PLEASE contact someone. This guy is so arrogant!

[englishleigh]

It occurred to me that DP's remarks about Stacy always talking divorce when she was on her period but might have been an attempt at a setup to maybe explain away in the future any blood that might be found....

[Chi Town Legal Freak]

He did the interview to get free legal representation. I agree with EyesForLies on this, that's pretty much the sole reason he did the interview. He was more thinking along the lines of "If/when I get life in prison or the death penalty, the kids are taken care of." I think. :twocents:

I can't believe he said the "kids are taken care of". They will have a very tough life and will have to live with a horrible legacy their father left them if he goes to prison.

[itsreenw]

I could have sworn DP initially said he thought their marriage was fine. Then he goes on tv and says SP was a PMSing nutcase and she asked for a divorce whenever she was emotional about something.

OK, Mr. Policeman, if a woman regularly asks for a divorce...the marriage is NOT fine. But I'm sure DP knew that. He's trying out which angle will get him the most support. The unknowing, deserted spouse or the 'woe is me-she was crazy and left me for another man' defense.

[Mygirlsadie]

Before Bobby Cutts was found guilty of killing Jesse and baby Chloe he was also giving interviews and in one he says.... CUTTS:
"I mean I haven't been myself. I...I can't sleep. I can't eat. Anybody that knows me knows me that if I’m normal joking around and laughing...trying to have fun and make everyone else laugh and...''

Did DP say the same exact thing in his interview with Matt Lauer? Something about being a jokester & having fun etc etc?.. hmm

[SuziQ]

Before Bobby Cutts was found guilty of killing Jesse and baby Chloe he was also giving interviews and in one he says.... CUTTS:
"I mean I haven't been myself. I...I can't sleep. I can't eat. Anybody that knows me knows me that if I’m normal joking around and laughing...trying to have fun and make everyone else laugh and...''

Did DP say the same exact thing in his interview with Matt Lauer? Something about being a jokester & having fun etc etc?.. hmm

I believe he did Sadie. Seems like they all say that. Profilers must love this stuff.

[Indy Gal]

Just keeping things striaght, altho we all know he did it. BC's trial has not begun yet, so therefor he hasnt been found guilty just yet.

[SeriouslySearching]

This does seem to follow along the same profile as Bobby Cutts Jr., but the reason is because they are both the same type of controlling, manipulating abusers who escalate into murder when their worlds seem to spin out. Craig Stebic fits into this profile, too, imo. Granted, none of them have been found guilty as of yet, but you can see the same patterns emerge. I think BC Jr. is more calloused than DP or CS because he also killed his unborn child and left his other child alone for two days to possibly die.

[SeriouslySearching]

It occurred to me that DP's remarks about Stacy always talking divorce when she was on her period but might have been an attempt at a setup to maybe explain away in the future any blood that might be found....I believe there is a distinct difference forensically so it would not be of an advantage to him. Being in LE, he should already know this.

However, men who are abusive to this extent have little to no understanding of women and their periods because they don't care. They look at it as an inconvenience to them and since it is out of their control...they use it to cast blame for women acting out. They don't value women anyway, but this makes it even more pronounced. It didn't surprise me at all he would say something so stupid.

[SuziQ]

Mixed reaction to Drew's Today Show interview:

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=26d4d06a-1799-49bd-a3fc-231283f00fb4

[SuziQ]

Yesterdays family presser regarding Drew's Today show interview:

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=29466429-b010-4d18-92c8-501202046e6a

[Trino]

I also think DP is more cunning and more of a planner. If he was involved with #3's death, DP had probably thought about this for a time before it happened. (Remember his step-daughter from wife #2's comment about "making it look like an accident" with wife #2.)

The search has been going on too long for DP to have made a quickie disposal of a body. I think he'd planned and found a place to dispose of a body before Stacy disappeared.

I guess I don't understand the retirement/resignation. He was 11 days away from retirement. He attempted to resign, but his resignation was not accepted because of previous problems? Can someone be kept from retirement?

[SuziQ]

Matt Lauer stated this morning that the one answer that got to him was when Drew laughed and asked Stacey to come home.

[Trino]

Matt Lauer stated this morning that the one answer that got to him was when Drew laughed and asked Stacey to come home.

While I don't believe DP is innocent, if my husband ran off with another woman, I would not ask him to come home - not for even the kids. He could just... well...

[SuziQ]

I also think DP is more cunning and more of a planner. If he was involved with #3's death, DP had probably thought about this for a time before it happened. (Remember his step-daughter from wife #2's comment about "making it look like an accident" with wife #2.)

The search has been going on too long for DP to have made a quickie disposal of a body. I think he'd planned and found a place to dispose of a body before Stacy disappeared.

I guess I don't understand the retirement/resignation. He was 11 days away from retirement. He attempted to resign, but his resignation was not accepted because of previous problems? Can someone be kept from retirement?

Greta's producer Steph talked about Drew retiring. When Drew handed in his resignation, he was only two days from retiring. So why the rush to resign? The only other issue here is the two internal investigations, and that would be stopped if he resigned. Drew, and I suspect the Mayor and others, did not want the internal investigations to go forward.

If Drew is found guilty and fired as a result of the internal investigations, his pension will be forfeited.

While the Mayor was quick to accept Drew's resignation, I'm glad the board didn't. Hopefull they will do the right thing.

[SuziQ]

While I don't believe DP is innocent, if my husband ran off with another woman, I would not ask him to come home - not for even the kids. He could just... well...

I would beg for my spouse to come home if I was a suspect and facing possible murder charges because they ran off with another man. Heck, I would be begging and pleading.

[TGIRecovered]

...Anybody that knows me knows me that if I’m normal joking around and laughing...trying to have fun and make everyone else laugh and...''

Did DP say the same exact thing in his interview with Matt Lauer? Something about being a jokester & having fun etc etc?.. hmm\\

Men who are abusers use "joking" as an excuse to minimize their responsibility for their bullying behavior.

I'm sure we've all known people who , when they've done something mean or hurt someone, claim that they were just joking, when they know that they truly did mean to do what they did. This is really stupid, IMO. Jokes are supposed to be funny. Hurting someone is not funny.

I'll bet you DP will use this tired excuse to explain away any incidence of violence or abusiveness toward his wives or children in the past.

Abusers are just too cowardly to admit that they are responsible for their own actions.

Susan

[SuziQ]

Drew Peterson’s behavior and words during interviews with TODAY and NBC News did not match up with what would be expected from someone whose wife had abandoned him and his children for another man, two analysts said Thursday.

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=ff209ad3-d297-449d-a21b-98a586c097c6

[SuziQ]

Drew Peterson's brother lashes out at media:

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=37290@wbbm.dayport.com

The neighbor, Sharon, says Drews kids have said they saw Drew hit Stacy. Other family members have said the same thing.

[Taximom]

Drew Peterson's brother lashes out at media:

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=37290@wbbm.dayport.com

The neighbor, Sharon, says Drews kids have said they saw Drew hit Stacy. Other family members have said the same thing.

While I'm sad the children are going through this, I'm very glad they are old enough to know what they saw and can talk about it.

[Taximom]

Today Show Poll:
Do you believe Drew Peterson, who claims he had no part in the disappearance of his 4th wife?
* 7850 responses

2% Yes. The media and authorities are jumping to conclusions.
89%http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/ColorBoxes/Styles/ColorboxImages(globalonlyplease)/dotRed.gifNo. I suspect foul play -- there are too many odd coincidences.
8.6%http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/ColorBoxes/Styles/ColorboxImages(globalonlyplease)/dotRed.gifI don't know. It's still too early to tell.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/ColorBoxes/Styles/ColorboxImages(globalonlyplease)/dotRed.gifNot a scientific survey.

[Jaded]

Today Show Poll:
Do you believe Drew Peterson, who claims he had no part in the disappearance of his 4th wife?
* 7850 responses

2% Yes. The media and authorities are jumping to conclusions.
89%http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/ColorBoxes/Styles/ColorboxImages%28globalonlyplease%29/dotRed.gifNo. I suspect foul play -- there are too many odd coincidences.
8.6%http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/ColorBoxes/Styles/ColorboxImages%28globalonlyplease%29/dotRed.gifI don't know. It's still too early to tell.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/ColorBoxes/Styles/ColorboxImages%28globalonlyplease%29/dotRed.gifNot a scientific survey.

Guess DP must have called in 2% of the time. LOL

[SuziQ]

lol, or that could account for his family, Steve Cesares and the Mayor of Bolingbrook.

[Indy Gal]

:clap: :clap: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Guess DP must have called in 2% of the time. LOL

[ISPTRAX]

Drew Peterson's brother lashes out at media:

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=37290@wbbm.dayport.com

The neighbor, Sharon, says Drews kids have said they saw Drew hit Stacy. Other family members have said the same thing.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The media is acting like the "Pavarottzi"

What a moron :rolleyes:

[PeekrMan]

Can someone tell us what kind of regulation or law exists in the Bolingbrook PD (and any other PDs) that would prevent an internal investigation from proceeding simply because the central figure in the investigation submits and has his resignation accepted? What justification is there for such a regulation? In light of the events of the past few weeks (in particular, the blatantly obvious mishandling of Savio's death), a full investigation is in order, regardless of the status of DP's resignation.

[Taximom]

PeekrMan, welcome.

I agree with you. I think an investigation should continue regardless of DP's status.

[Vegas Bride]

1 thing that bothers me about DP is the smug look on his face any time he talks. There has never been even a hint of sadness or hurt. If everything he says could be true IMO it would be devestating that your wife has left you, not only would you be terribly hurt, but you would also be sick at what it would do to your children. There would be so many layers of emotion to go through, all, the hurt, the anger, I see no emoton at all, just a cold calculating speel now trying to get himself a free lawyer. He certainly does not look like he's missed any meals or sleep during this time either, he's just annoyed it's gotten the media attention and now the scrutiny into the past he won't be able to squirm his way out of.
I do think it funny that his initials are DP, when I see that I always think DP=death penalty :)

VB

[STEADFAST]

This doesn't add much to the case, but just as an FYI, the CLTV went to Drew's first wife's house today and spoke to her husband who said she had never experienced any abuse of any sort from Drew Peterson. The husband stood just inside the door and looked kind of uncomfortable to me.

[Indy Gal]

Can someone tell us what kind of regulation or law exists in the Bolingbrook PD (and any other PDs) that would prevent an internal investigation from proceeding simply because the central figure in the investigation submits and has his resignation accepted? What justification is there for such a regulation? In light of the events of the past few weeks (in particular, the blatantly obvious mishandling of Savio's death), a full investigation is in order, regardless of the status of DP's resignation.
WELCOME to WS!!!:blowkiss:

[Leila]

This doesn't add much to the case, but just as an FYI, the CLTV went to Drew's first wife's house today and spoke to her husband who said she had never experienced any abuse of any sort from Drew Peterson. The husband stood just inside the door and looked kind of uncomfortable to me.

In light of what we've heard from the 2nd wife (through her daughter) and from what Kathleen Savio documented prior to her death, I wonder if what the husband of the first wife stated is true, or do they just don't want to be involved?

[SuziQ]

1 thing that bothers me about DP is the smug look on his face any time he talks. There has never been even a hint of sadness or hurt. If everything he says could be true IMO it would be devestating that your wife has left you, not only would you be terribly hurt, but you would also be sick at what it would do to your children. There would be so many layers of emotion to go through, all, the hurt, the anger, I see no emoton at all, just a cold calculating speel now trying to get himself a free lawyer. He certainly does not look like he's missed any meals or sleep during this time either, he's just annoyed it's gotten the media attention and now the scrutiny into the past he won't be able to squirm his way out of.
I do think it funny that his initials are DP, when I see that I always think DP=death penalty :)

VB

Pam at the family presser yesterday said Drews comment on the Today show about the media, was the most telling thing of all. She said, IIRC, that he doesn't fear LE because he's been able to slide by them all these years. He fears the media because of public opinion and they will eventually be his jury.

[Taximom]

What exactly does a duty sargeant do? Is he at the station assigning jobs or is he free to roam around in his car? (I remember him saying this during the Today show interview, I believe.)

[STEADFAST]

In light of what we've heard from the 2nd wife (through her daughter) and from what Kathleen Savio documented prior to her death, I wonder if what the husband of the first wife stated is true, or do they just don't want to be involved?

First, a correction: it was WGN not CLTV who went out to the Brown's house.

No way to know whether it was true or not, I guess. But it seems obvious they don't want to get involved. CLTV just aired a slightly different version, in which they merely paraphrased what Dave Brown said. According to that, the first wife "believes Peterson is innocent until proven guilty." Not that she believes he is factually innocent, you'll notice! The husband didn't seem all indignant that Peterson was being falsely accused, to me it seemed he just wanted the cameras to go away.

[Indy Gal]

I know in Indy taxi the are free roaming PO's. At least from the ones I know of.

[Taximom]

I know in Indy taxi the are free roaming PO's. At least from the ones I know of.

Hmm. I remember a case of a policeman in CA that was pulling over and killing women while his records stated he was across town giving out tickets.

[JerzWhim]

I think an investigation should continue regardless of DP's status.

The investigation can continue, however, whatever its findings they can no longer "punish" a person who is not their employee. And pensions, once granted, cannot be taken away. I was a civil servant (NYPD cop) and never in my life had I ever seen a person lose their pension even after it was found out that they had committed crimes while on the force.

This mayor did DP a HUGE favor not only for granting the pension but in preventing a second internal investigation into DPs involvement into Stacy's disappearance.

[STEADFAST]

Hmm. I remember a case of a policeman in CA that was pulling over and killing women while his records stated he was across town giving out tickets.


Are you talking about Darryl Rosen?
http://www.kcra.com/news/1444190/detail.html

[SuziQ]

The investigation can continue, however, whatever its findings they can no longer "punish" a person who is not their employee. And pensions, once granted, cannot be taken away. I was a civil servant (NYPD cop) and never in my life had I ever seen a person lose their pension even after it was found out that they had committed crimes while on the force.

This mayor did DP a HUGE favor not only for granting the pension but in preventing a second internal investigation into DPs involvement into Stacy's disappearance.

Hopefully when the fire and police comission meet on Tuesday, they won't allow this to happen.

[MagicRose99]

Are you talking about Darryl Rosen?
http://www.kcra.com/news/1444190/detail.html

Rosen didn't kill... he was a serial rapist...

[Taximom]

Are you talking about Darryl Rosen?
http://www.kcra.com/news/1444190/detail.html

Hi Steadfast!

Wow, no, Rosen isn't the one I was thinking of. I hadn't heard of this creep. Yikes.

This happened a few years ago. I think he was a highway patrolman, and he killed one woman that I remember. Nobody could believe it was him at first. He lied on his logs as to his location etc.

[STEADFAST]

Hi Steadfast!

Wow, no, Rosen isn't the one I was thinking of. I hadn't heard of this creep. Yikes.

This happened a few years ago. I think he was a highway patrolman, and he killed one woman that I remember. Nobody could believe it was him at first. He lied on his logs as to his location etc.

Did it happen around San Diego? I saw one of those true crime shows about this happening there but can't remember the names.ETA just remembered the name.
He ended up killing a girl.
http://sandiegoblog.com/archives/2004/09/06/craig-peyer-chp-killer/

In 1986, Peyer was a 13-year patrol veteran so amped up by his power that he liked to brag, “There are two people you don’t piss off in this world: God and a Highway Patrolman–and not necessarily in that order.” He was a hot pencil who kept CHP brass happy by writing more tickets than anybody. Secretly, he was using his highly polished Badge 8611 to stalk young women for weird, sexually tinged power games. He’d order them to his “favorite spot” off the I-15 freeway, and chat them up about their love lives, often for hours at a time. He’d get into their cars and fondle their handbrakes. He’d take them on little rides deeper into the desolate dead end of Mercy Road.

[SuziQ]

Yes, I have been trying to locate the story of the CHP patrolman as well. He was stationed out in the desert. Murdered I can't remember how many women. There was a movie of the week made about this case, IIRC.

[Taximom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Peyer
This is the guy.

ETA: Oh, just saw your post, Steadfast. You're good! lol

[Taximom]

I remember his C.O. saying they had checked his logs, and at the time of her murder his log stated he was across town giving a ticket to someone.

That's why I'm wondering how much leeway was given Drew while on duty the day KS died.

[STEADFAST]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Peyer
This is the guy.

ETA: Oh, just saw your post, Steadfast. You're good! lol

Well, it just goes to show that if a police officer goes bad, he (or she) has ample and special resources to carry out crimes and get away with them.

[Taximom]

It would be cool if Bolingbrook police cars had a GPS system in place. We're getting that soon in our city.

[SeriouslySearching]

Has anyone thought to ask about Drew's sexual behavior with his wives? Many times abusers who totally devalue women will include this in their sex lives. I wonder how much he degraded them in the bedroom and how far he made them go for his ego?

[KatK]

Making sure this video link is in this topic also, it's about DP's earlier wives. The current husband of the first wife says on behalf of his wife (paraphrased) "She says she never had any of that kind of trouble". Whoa! The video has been taken off. Wonder why? :confused: This was the link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/video/?clipid=1930619&topVideoCatNo=71776&c=&autoStart=true&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage) to see the video, I e-mailed it to myself to get the link and it worked, then my net went out. *sigh* Did anyone else get to watch the video before it was taken down?

[STEADFAST]

Making sure this video link is in this topic also, it's about DP's earlier wives. The current husband of the first wife says on behalf of his wife (paraphrased) "She says she never had any of that kind of trouble". Whoa! The video has been taken off. Wonder why? :confused: This was the link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/video/?clipid=1930619&topVideoCatNo=71776&c=&autoStart=true&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage) to see the video, I e-mailed it to myself to get the link and it worked, then my net went out. *sigh* Did anyone else get to watch the video before it was taken down?

I saw it on TV in both versions.

[STEADFAST]

Making sure this video link is in this topic also, it's about DP's earlier wives. The current husband of the first wife says on behalf of his wife (paraphrased) "She says she never had any of that kind of trouble". Whoa! The video has been taken off. Wonder why? :confused: This was the link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/video/?clipid=1930619&topVideoCatNo=71776&c=&autoStart=true&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage) to see the video, I e-mailed it to myself to get the link and it worked, then my net went out. *sigh* Did anyone else get to watch the video before it was taken down?

I saw both the first version, which showed the first wife's husband talking, and the second version, which only paraphrased part of what he said, on CLTV. I couldn't find a video of either version on their site. I, also, was wondering why they changed this news report.

[Taximom]

Has anyone thought to ask about Drew's sexual behavior with his wives? Many times abusers who totally devalue women will include this in their sex lives. I wonder how much he degraded them in the bedroom and how far he made them go for his ego?

I think Drew would say he was quite the romantic fellow. If anyone was degraded, it was him! :rolleyes:

This is a good point in all seriousness. I bet in the beginning he was all fun and romance, but towards the end abuse and degradation melded in with the sex.

I wonder if either KS or SP talked to anyone about that part of their life...

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Would be an excellent question to pose to the closest women in their