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Armandv101
11-14-2007, 04:52 PM
Granted, DP seems to be not such a "warm & cuddly" person. It is possible that he did something to Stacy, but suppose that she is found and someone else was responsible. What would you say then? Or, another scenario, suddenly Stacy shows up with (or without) another man? What would you say then? To those here ready to "string him up," would you be willing to admit, "I had him figured wrong"? Interesting food for thought.

browneyedgirl
11-14-2007, 04:58 PM
Granted, DP seems to be not such a "warm & cuddly" person. It is possible that he did something to Stacy, but suppose that she is found and someone else was responsible. What would you say then? Or, another scenario, suddenly Stacy shows up with (or without) another man? What would you say then? To those here ready to "string him up," would you be willing to admit, "I had him figured wrong"? Interesting food for thought.

I would have absolutley no problem what so ever in admitting that I was wrong and way off base..........but I just don't see that happening. These men, sociopaths, are all alike. The are stalkers, abusers, wife beaters, child endangers, mind controlling and very very good about making sure that you know no-one else in this enite world would ever want you especially with two kids.
Yeah i would admit that i was wrong, but pardon me if I don't sit and hold my breath waiting for that to happen.:twocents:

TiaDaxxy1980
11-14-2007, 04:59 PM
sure i would say "boy i was wrong". i'm not 110% sure he did it, but if it looks like a duck........

I would be defending myself more if i were him and innocent. he's just like eh whatever.

angelmom
11-14-2007, 05:05 PM
It would have to be proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point.

I would gladly, then, admit that I was wrong and I would apologize.

Then I would strongly urge DP to get some serious mental health care. B/c if he is innocent, he seriously has issues.

JerzWhim
11-14-2007, 05:06 PM
I would be defending myself more if i were him and innocent. he's just like eh whatever.

If he is innocent (and he may be), he still has a lot of 'splaining to do.

As TiaDaxxy says, he is just like "whatever " -- as if a mother and wife (his wife) leaving on her own and never being heard from again is as normal a thing as going to the store for milk. He acts as if his explanation of events is all the world needs.

mysteriew
11-14-2007, 05:09 PM
lol, good thread. If Stacy should show up, yes I would apoligize while I was rejoicing. But the way I feel right now, I don't think I will have to eat crow this week!

Leila
11-14-2007, 05:13 PM
I too wouldn't have a problem admitting I was wrong. But, in this case, there's just too much evidence. It isn't a matter of just one marriage and the wife in that marriage missing.

There's 4 marriages, with wife #1 and wife #2 both frightened of Drew Peterson. Although we haven't heard from wife #1, the daughter of wife #2 has spoken of abuse and fear. Wife #3 is dead and her death originally labeled an accident. But there's documentation of abuse by Drew Peterson, and now her body has been exhumed with the possibility that after further investigation her death will be called a homicide.

There's just too much that indicates the likelihood that Drew Peterson is responsible for the death of wife #3 and the disappearance of wife#4.

Lurker
11-14-2007, 05:20 PM
I'd say Hooray! Stacy's been found.

Now let's completely rule him out as a murderer of his 3rd wife before I eat crow.

ISPTRAX
11-14-2007, 05:22 PM
I've had this fleeting "what if" scenario run through my brain once today... that if she shows up, what would I think about him? But, it was once... and it was VERY fleeting... Lol. What kills me is to think how he is treating those two young kids he's now saddled with. He's obviously a pompous, arrogant jerk that I can't fathom being a good father to those children whose mother he murdered!!!!

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 05:31 PM
^Funny, I was thinking of calling this thread "The "What If" Thread." I am amazed that in 1/2 hour since I started it there's so many responses. I agree, even if he is innocent, he definitely does seem to have issues.

miimaa
11-14-2007, 05:31 PM
I'd say "Da^^n Stacy!! Do you know what you put your husband and family through? What is wrong with you woman? Leaving like that and not telling anybody where you were."

Now... IF she "met someone else" like Drew claims isn't it ODD that he doesn't know who this someone is? That he doesn't know where she went with this someone? Other couples split up and still keep in touch with their families. I highly doubt Drew is telling the truth.

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 05:37 PM
lol, good thread. If Stacy should show up, yes I would apoligize while I was rejoicing. But the way I feel right now, I don't think I will have to eat crow this week!

Thanks. Another purpose of this is to put a stop sign in front of those who may be rushing to judgement. Sometimes it is necessary to sit back and reassess what one knows (or doesn't know).

Leila
11-14-2007, 05:41 PM
I'd say "Da^^n Stacy!! Do you know what you put your husband and family through? What is wrong with you woman? Leaving like that and not telling anybody where you were."

Now... IF she "met someone else" like Drew claims isn't it ODD that he doesn't know who this someone is? That he doesn't know where she went with this someone? Other couples split up and still keep in touch with their families. I highly doubt Drew is telling the truth.

It's bee reported that Stacy had a very close relationship with her sister, Cassandra. They talked every day. If there was anyone that Stacy would confide in (regarding another man), it would be her sister and not the man she was going to divorce (had an appointment with an attorney).

JerzWhim
11-14-2007, 05:41 PM
Can DP prove she left with another man? It would help clear him for sure. Of course, he doesn't have to but it seems to me that the so-called affair between Stacy and this alleged man would have left some physical and/or electronic records:

- Cell / home phone records
- Emails
- Free time she scheduled to spend with this man
- Bank withdrawal/Getting a credit card to pay for the getaway?
- Unexplained extra miles/gas usage on her car
- Her close friends that she confided in about her affair

DP ought to be able to "prove" her affair by producing any of these.

miimaa
11-14-2007, 05:42 PM
I'd like to ask Drew why - AFTER she told him she met someone else - he didn't ask her where he could send her the divorce papers.

mysteriew
11-14-2007, 05:58 PM
I'd like to ask Drew why - AFTER she told him she met someone else - he didn't ask her where he could send her the divorce papers.

Great point!

mysteriew
11-14-2007, 06:10 PM
Thanks. Another purpose of this is to put a stop sign in front of those who may be rushing to judgement. Sometimes it is necessary to sit back and reassess what one knows (or doesn't know).

I'll be honest. Very little of the actual physical evidence in Stacy's disappearance has been released. I will admit, my opinion has been based almost entirely on the little tidbits that Drew has released to the press.

But what he has released has been contradictory to other things he has said, has been contradictory to what others have said, has been contradictory to what Stacy herself has said (her email) and has been eerily similar to what others convicted of murdering their wives has said. Plus some of what he has said just downright doesn't make sense!

So that is what formed my opinion on Drew's involvement in the disappearance. Now Kathleen's death, it is too many convenient co incidents as well as the info from the autopsy.

Am I wrong? I admit it is possible. But I won't admit I am wrong until I see some evidence.

Chi Town Legal Freak
11-14-2007, 06:17 PM
Can DP prove she left with another man? It would help clear him for sure. Of course, he doesn't have to but it seems to me that the so-called affair between Stacy and this alleged man would have left some physical and/or electronic records:

- Cell / home phone records
- Emails
- Free time she scheduled to spend with this man
- Bank withdrawal/Getting a credit card to pay for the getaway?
- Unexplained extra miles/gas usage on her car
- Her close friends that she confided in about her affair

DP ought to be able to "prove" her affair by producing any of these.



Considering he followed her every move, one would think he would know of this. He would know if Stacy was with another man.

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 06:25 PM
Has anything surfaced that could possibly exonerate DP? Thus far, people have been looking for evidence that could prove he's guilty of something. But has anything come up that would cause (reasonable) doubt?

Chi Town Legal Freak
11-14-2007, 06:26 PM
Scott Peterson's story made more sense and how did that end up?

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 06:29 PM
Scott Peterson's story made more sense and how did that end up?

To be honest, I smelled a rat in his case from the beginning. He practically led LE to the dumping location.

Chi Town Legal Freak
11-14-2007, 06:33 PM
To be honest, I smelled a rat in his case from the beginning..


But you don't smell a rat here?

TGIRecovered
11-14-2007, 06:35 PM
Considering he followed her every move, one would think he would know of this. He would know if Stacy was with another man.

Ditto. Plus there would either be two missing people or two dead bodies.

As DP said,there may be" some things pigs just won't do", but I'm pertty sure if he is innocent, pigs will fly.

(Had to say it)

Susan

curiositycat
11-14-2007, 06:42 PM
This man, like all the other serial abusers, is so good at what he does he could create a bit of doubt. I am sure this was the point of his TV interview today. I have been on websleuths now for almost two years and I have come to trust the judgment of the regulars on here. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Chi Town Legal Freak
11-14-2007, 06:43 PM
Lastly, if Stacy ran off with another man, she would have had to be seeing him for quite some time to make an earth shattering move like DP is claiming.

She didn't meet this "man" Saturday night and leave the next day.

People who cheat on their spouses nowadays are going to get caught. As a previous post in this thread indicated, cell phone records and emails are readily available for the spouse getting two timed.

Furthermore, Stacy was too dedicated to her kids and family to leave without a trace. If she was having an affair, DP knew of it. Again, he watched pretty much everything she did.

Lastly, when would she have time to even go on a date, let alone have a full blown affair with man when she was tending to her kids nearly 24/7?

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 06:43 PM
^...it could be a goose, too.

Sedona
11-14-2007, 06:47 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-peterson-interview_webnov15,1,3924553.story?ctrack=1&cset=true


:shakeshead: Think about this!

He is afraid of the media but sitting in front of Matt Lauer on National TV.

When asked by Matt Lauer "Can you look me in the eye and say you didn't....." he responds back saying.


"I can look right in your eye and say I had nothing to do with either of those incidences," Innocent people don't respond this way. You CAN... Ok, why don't you. Why not just a simple, yes I can. This is like when I ask you if you had anything to do with such and such and respond with a question like why would you think that or how could you think that. This is fact. Innocent people DO NOT respond this way.

He is DEFENDING himself but seems not concerned as to where she is. Had my spouse called me and said "I found somebody else and I'm leaving." I would ask, ok, where do you want me to send your divorce papers?

He says him and Stacy were always trying to one-up each other, out do each other so to speak. So much to say about that.... :shakeshead: Why mention this? So now she had made herself missing to one up him? Hummm?

He says his lawyers advised him not to speak to the police, yet, he is on TV giving an interview. Interesting.

If he didn't do it, and she returns home alive, I'll eat worms, but I think she is dead.

:sick:

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 06:51 PM
Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the Lauer interview.

cheko1
11-14-2007, 06:54 PM
Gosh I of all people would surely say wow I rushed to judgement.....
I am VERY SORRY!

In which I had to do that just recently in the Kelly Stanley case! I thought for sure Erin boyfriend had killed her too. He never so I apologized. I thought 40 lashes with a wet noodle would serve me right!

IF: DP is innocent I'll do the same again!!!!

Tom'sGirl
11-14-2007, 06:55 PM
Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the Lauer interview.
Armand, I know you can't watch it from work, but don't miss watching it when you get home.

Also, Ric Mims will be in the WS chat room tonight around 8:00 p.m. our time.

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 06:57 PM
Armand, I know you can't watch it from work, but don't miss watching it when you get home.

Also, Ric Mims will be in the WS chat room tonight around 8:00 p.m. our time.

Thanks, TG. Right now it's an "iffy." I have a car in the shop which may or may not be ready for pick-up. I am in a rental (seems more like a golf cart than a car) that I'll also have to turn in.

cheko1
11-14-2007, 06:58 PM
Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the Lauer interview.


He was to cool, calm, & collected not to of done something.....The only thing the interview did was for him to state both women are unstable.....came from bad family back grounds.

He needed a lawyer & welcomes one to call him. He wants the media off his back.

WindChime
11-14-2007, 06:59 PM
We will not and I repete will not allow the victim "Stacy" to be attacked here on this forum. If I should have to delete another post where Stacy is being attacked the member guilty of it will be gone from WS for a month.

Cakegirl
11-14-2007, 07:03 PM
I always try to stay neutral until we know different -- but after watching todays interview with Matt Lauer my hinky meter went off the charts! There's just noooo way he didn't have something to do with Stacy missing. This would be him after the interview --> :liar:

When Stacy comes home to pick up her children (that she would never have left with that man) and it's proven that wife number 3 died of a true accident (doubtful), then I'll apologize for jumping to conclusions. ;)

Armandv101
11-14-2007, 07:05 PM
All angles should be looked at. Trust no one.

SuziQ
11-14-2007, 07:25 PM
Thanks. Another purpose of this is to put a stop sign in front of those who may be rushing to judgement. Sometimes it is necessary to sit back and reassess what one knows (or doesn't know).

Hard not to rush to judgement when the evidence is carrying you along at the speed of light!

SuziQ
11-14-2007, 07:30 PM
I'll have to admit I'm wrong about Drew the day that "pigs" can fly...

itsreenw
11-14-2007, 07:53 PM
While it is interesting to say 'what if...", and get everyone's input on 'what if Drew is innocent', I think we should give DP zero amount of our time since that is what he has put forth in the search for his wife.

We are wasting precious time giving that jerk a second thought.

Camper
11-14-2007, 08:05 PM
Stickiing my question in here. I have only been primarilly following this case by media, and a tiny bit of reading here.

Someone tell me IF they have removed DP's third wife from her gravesite, for further forensic testing?

Saw DP's best friend since they were 13 years old, being interviewed on TV. Friend said DP loved to flirt with the women.

Another question on the picture thread. A picture of a bathroom toward the end of the thread, with an oval tub. Would that be the present home tub OR OR the wife #3 tub where she drowned?

IF he is not guilty I will eat some worms with the other poster as well.

Thanks guys.

.

arielilane
11-14-2007, 08:12 PM
Granted, DP seems to be not such a "warm & cuddly" person. It is possible that he did something to Stacy, but suppose that she is found and someone else was responsible. What would you say then? Or, another scenario, suddenly Stacy shows up with (or without) another man? What would you say then? To those here ready to "string him up," would you be willing to admit, "I had him figured wrong"? Interesting food for thought.
Not possible...too many red flags a waving....

Tom'sGirl
11-14-2007, 08:13 PM
Stickiing my question in here. I have only been primarilly following this case by media, and a tiny bit of reading here.

Someone tell me IF they have removed DP's third wife from her gravesite, for further forensic testing?

Saw DP's best friend since they were 13 years old, being interviewed on TV. Friend said DP loved to flirt with the women.

Another question on the picture thread. A picture of a bathroom toward the end of the thread, with an oval tub. Would that be the present home tub OR OR the wife #3 tub where she drowned?

IF he is not guilty I will eat some worms with the other poster as well.

Thanks guys.

.

Someone tell me IF they have removed DP's third wife from her gravesite, for further forensic testing?
Yes, they exhumed her yesterday.

Another question on the picture thread. A picture of a bathroom toward the end of the thread, with an oval tub. Would that be the present home tub OR OR the wife #3 tub where she drowned?
Yes, that is the tub Drew Petersons's third wife was found.

TGIRecovered
11-14-2007, 08:33 PM
We will not and I repete will not allow the victim "Stacy" to be attacked here on this forum. If I should have to delete another post where Stacy is being attacked the member guilty of it will be gone from WS for a month.


Went to fix supper and somebody starts acting ugly. Somebody who knows what happened want to PM me? I wanna know! Wah!


Susan

strach304
11-14-2007, 08:40 PM
I understand what you are trying to accomplish Armandv101 and that's a good thing just to keep all possibilities open. I think most of us would love to be wrong and see Stacy pop up fine and well.

There is a recent case of a mother who disappeared in RI and turned up with the homeless in Balto. There was PPD with her family searching for her and a 50,000 reward. It seems to me that Drew has tried to indicate depression along with her mother's disappearance as all being factors in Stacy's disappearance yet she found someone else too.

IMO he's just trying to create diversions and throw in everything including the kitchen sink. Drew is the only one saying those things about Stacy whereas family and friends have not but have brought up divorce, fear and threats of Drew from Stacy. She was trying to find a rental property yet a neighbor states his boxes were packed in the garage the week before she went missing. The list does go on and on.

Greywing
11-14-2007, 09:15 PM
Not possible...too many red flags a waving....

It is disheartening that so many of the sudden disappearances of women end up with the SO having murdered them ...

IMO do I believe DP is not involved? NO! There are just too many things that speak to me of the possibility of murder.

Trino
11-14-2007, 09:55 PM
If DP is innocent, and Stacy is alive and ran off with another man, where is she? With all the publicity why hasn't anyone reported seeing her? Or, are we to assume there's another murderer on the loose?

curiositycat
11-14-2007, 10:30 PM
:clap::clap::clap:


I'll have to admit I'm wrong about Drew the day that "pigs" can fly...

SeriouslySearching
11-14-2007, 11:06 PM
Innocent? Hmmmm...let's just say that while they might not be able to prove his guilt, I will never believe in his innocence.

SeekingJana
11-15-2007, 12:04 AM
It's my opinion, based upon what we know at present, that Drew was the one with the means, motive and opportunity to inflict fatal injuries upon 2 of his wives and possibly Stacy's mother Christie as well.

I don't think Kathleen drowned and I don't think Stacy walked away into the blissful sunset with a mystery lover. One is definitely dead, the other is most likely dead, sadly, and Drew Peterson is a mess of a human being who has been walking around with guns and billy clubs and the long arm of the law on his side for all this time.

I also don't believe that Christie Cales went missing voluntarily, but I could be wrong about her disappearance. I would think that the remaining close adult relative, Cassandra, would have both a strong opinion about this and also a strong need to know what happened to Christie.

Indy Gal
11-15-2007, 09:35 AM
It's bee reported that Stacy had a very close relationship with her sister, Cassandra. They talked every day. If there was anyone that Stacy would confide in (regarding another man), it would be her sister and not the man she was going to divorce (had an appointment with an attorney).
Well said!! he did it NO DOUBT in my mind. If wrong i will admit it BUT I really dont think we wrong are in this case. Please all it takes is one look at all the facts presented.

ETA Just saw WC's post and am appauld that someone would be putting this girl down. Glad I missed it and please remember she is a VICTIM here, not a perp!

browneyedgirl
11-15-2007, 09:57 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-peterson-interview_webnov15,1,3924553.story?ctrack=1&cset=true



:shakeshead: Think about this!

He is afraid of the media but sitting in front of Matt Lauer on National TV.

When asked by Matt Lauer "Can you look me in the eye and say you didn't....." he responds back saying.


"I can look right in your eye and say I had nothing to do with either of those incidences," Innocent people don't respond this way. You CAN... Ok, why don't you. Why not just a simple, yes I can. This is like when I ask you if you had anything to do with such and such and respond with a question like why would you think that or how could you think that. This is fact. Innocent people DO NOT respond this way.

He is DEFENDING himself but seems not concerned as to where she is. Had my spouse called me and said "I found somebody else and I'm leaving." I would ask, ok, where do you want me to send your divorce papers?

He says him and Stacy were always trying to one-up each other, out do each other so to speak. So much to say about that.... :shakeshead: Why mention this? So now she had made herself missing to one up him? Hummm?

He says his lawyers advised him not to speak to the police, yet, he is on TV giving an interview. Interesting.

If he didn't do it, and she returns home alive, I'll eat worms, but I think she is dead.

:sick:


Great post, Sedona and I totally agree with everything you've said.:blowkiss:

Camper
11-15-2007, 10:51 AM
Someone tell me IF they have removed DP's third wife from her gravesite, for further forensic testing?
Yes, they exhumed her yesterday.

Another question on the picture thread. A picture of a bathroom toward the end of the thread, with an oval tub. Would that be the present home tub OR OR the wife #3 tub where she drowned?
Yes, that is the tub Drew Petersons's third wife was found.



--->>>Thank you Tom'sGirl!! I saw Dr. Baden on Gretas program last night. Staceys family has requested a second autopsy when the first one is finished, and he is on standby to do it. Baden indicated that some significant information has been retrieved by the #3 wife autopsy in process already. He also stated that the coffin had been infiltrated by significant water, but that significant findings can be obtained from the remains given the water issue.

About THAT tub, good grief for a normal sized person to have accidentally drowned in THAT tub, I find my thinking that would be impossible. #3 looked like a normal sized person. For drowning to happen my dumb brain says - 1. She had to have been drugged or 2. She had major help.

I am thinking and wondering given the water infiltration into the casket, what would remain in the hair to indicate any such drug being given to sedate her?

Do WE know what time of day the drowning happened?

I also wonder what DP's specialty and or training in his 29 years he had as a police officer?

Does he have close family to verify his hinky responses about who did what to whom and how come etc. I am guessing NOOOOOOOOOO.

AND AND why in the name of good sense would he wrap his dorky face in patriotic colors???

===============

TO other posters here:
Men like him come with all types of working careers, not just police departments. WITHOUT the police what do WE think we would all have to contend with? So do not condemn the entirety of police departments in general, I take umbrage with that.

.

SeriouslySearching
11-15-2007, 02:20 PM
Camper, the first autopsy showed a clear tox screen with no drugs or alcohol present. It would be obvious she had to have major help to drown in such a tub being she was found face down in the bottom according to at least one of the crime scene photos shown to the coroner's jury.

Her hair will probably be still intact even if there was water in the casket. They will probably retest for other possible drugs or poisons. I also bet they will look closely for debris from a wall or other objects which could have been used to cause the laceration to the head.

They haven't released information as to when the drowning happened, but Dr. Baden said since lividity had set in...it was probably several hours before she was found.

I don't recall hearing of any training or expertise he might have outside of the usual for being an officer.

His brother, Paul, seems to be sticking up for him...but has provided nothing to the public (possibly to the GJ) to back up his brother's whereabouts or point to his innocence in either case.

He probably wore Old Glory to show how patriotic he is and how he believes in the Justice system of America! LMAO OK...probably not...but my guess is that he is hiding for a reason. Another mistress?! Other people being able to identify him being somewhere he was seen and doesn't want LE to know?! Could be he is just as dorky as he looks without the bandana tho. : )

close_enough
11-15-2007, 10:02 PM
Granted, DP seems to be not such a "warm & cuddly" person. It is possible that he did something to Stacy, but suppose that she is found and someone else was responsible. What would you say then? Or, another scenario, suddenly Stacy shows up with (or without) another man? What would you say then? To those here ready to "string him up," would you be willing to admit, "I had him figured wrong"? Interesting food for thought.

no problem here with admitting i had him figured wrong...i've been wrong before!......i think if Stacey was out there alive somewhere, she'd have come clean with a family member by now, with all the media attention....

STEADFAST
11-16-2007, 12:26 AM
Granted, DP seems to be not such a "warm & cuddly" person. It is possible that he did something to Stacy, but suppose that she is found and someone else was responsible. What would you say then? Or, another scenario, suddenly Stacy shows up with (or without) another man? What would you say then? To those here ready to "string him up," would you be willing to admit, "I had him figured wrong"? Interesting food for thought.

If it turns out that DP had nothing to do with his fourth wife's disappearance, I'd say, "Well, you shouldn't have killed your third wife."

Indy Gal
11-16-2007, 09:38 AM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: If it turns out that DP had nothing to do with his fourth wife's disappearance, I'd say, "Well, you shouldn't have killed your third wife."

golfmom
11-16-2007, 09:47 AM
:laugh: If it turns out that DP had nothing to do with his fourth wife's disappearance, I'd say, "Well, you shouldn't have killed your third wife."

OH Steadfast, you made me spit my coffee all over my new computer. :D

Jodiinvegas
11-16-2007, 09:57 AM
If I am wrong I would appolgize, BUT in this case I haven't heard of her being seen anywhere or with anyone.

wtsn5
11-16-2007, 10:10 AM
I live in Canada and the only news I hear about this case is from here on websleuths - it also isn't mentioned on the local US news channels I watch so it not getting that much media attention. So if and that is a big IF she did go off somewhere she may not be aware of all the media attention. But I find it hard to believe that she hasn't looked in on her children if she just took off.

angelmom
11-16-2007, 10:19 AM
I live in Canada and the only news I hear about this case is from here on websleuths - it also isn't mentioned on the local US news channels I watch so it not getting that much media attention. So if and that is a big IF she did go off somewhere she may not be aware of all the media attention. But I find it hard to believe that she hasn't looked in on her children if she just took off.

Maybe you wouldn't notice, but I think if she ran off she would be more aware of a story ABOUT herself. Don't you think she'd at least check to see if there was any news, or to see if someone was looking for her?

wtsn5
11-16-2007, 10:28 AM
Maybe you wouldn't notice, but I think if she ran off she would be more aware of a story ABOUT herself. Don't you think she'd at least check to see if there was any news, or to see if someone was looking for her?

Why? If she just decided to take off for a couple of weeks why would she look to see if there was any news about her. If we believe Drew she told him she was taking a vacation. She wouldn't need to suspect people would be looking for her - but where is her cell phone and why hasn't she answered that. I don't believe that she just took off for a minute but was just adding what is in the news here and replying to the thread.

Trino
11-16-2007, 10:37 AM
I live in Canada and the only news I hear about this case is from here on websleuths - it also isn't mentioned on the local US news channels I watch so it not getting that much media attention. So if and that is a big IF she did go off somewhere she may not be aware of all the media attention. But I find it hard to believe that she hasn't looked in on her children if she just took off.

While I don't think this is the case, Stacy could have taken off with another creep who murdered her.

curiositycat
11-16-2007, 11:34 AM
100% correct and he would not be looking for an attorney by going on national TV.;)


Why? If she just decided to take off for a couple of weeks why would she look to see if there was any news about her. If we believe Drew she told him she was taking a vacation. She wouldn't need to suspect people would be looking for her - but where is her cell phone and why hasn't she answered that. I don't believe that she just took off for a minute but was just adding what is in the news here and replying to the thread.

Vegas Bride
11-16-2007, 01:00 PM
It would be nice to find out that DP did not kill his wife but what bit of a rational mind I have does not believe that to be the case. If she had decided to go away IMO she would have confided in someone, most likely her sister. Her children would not have been left abandoned and also, given how she was affected by her sisters death, I don't see how she ever would have left her sisters ashes there at the house with Drew, she would have taken them with her or would have seen that they were given to another family member. There is no trail what so ever, if she ran off with a man then wouldn't someone by now have noticed a man was missing also? Drew mentions the expensive jewelry he has given her, I'm betting all this jewelry is still there with him, if she'd left she would have taken it. Was there even a suitcase packed? A change of clothes? Is there anything missing besides Stacy herself and the clothes on her back? When I go away even just for a weekend I pack a lot of stuff. Didn't he say she was on medication, did she take the medicine with her? Sorry, as much as I'd like to think a husband would not kill the mother of his children I have to think that that's exactly what happened here and I just hope there will be enough evidence found for there to be justice and to prevent him from moving on to #5.

VB

Indy Gal
11-16-2007, 01:07 PM
If I am wrong I would appolgize, BUT in this case I haven't heard of her being seen anywhere or with anyone.
Welcome to WS, Jodi!!

Littledeer
11-16-2007, 01:13 PM
IF DP IS INNOCENT:

I will take his hand and with a pail in the other hand, go down the Yellow Brick Road with this Lion.

Now that I said that, thank God I don't have to worry about following through, as I don't believe for a minute he is innocent of ALL the disappearances/deaths of past wifes, and possibly others. (Christine Cales, Monica's brother), and any others.

angelmom
11-16-2007, 01:18 PM
Why? If she just decided to take off for a couple of weeks why would she look to see if there was any news about her. If we believe Drew she told him she was taking a vacation. She wouldn't need to suspect people would be looking for her - but where is her cell phone and why hasn't she answered that. I don't believe that she just took off for a minute but was just adding what is in the news here and replying to the thread.

I guess what I meant by that is that it hasn't been huge deal, but it is in the news somewhat.

Like when you are getting married or want to be or newly broken up and suddenly it seems that wedding stuff is everywhere. Same with pregnancy, etc. It's what you notice. I would think that even a tiny bit of news that had your name in it would jump out at you.

Also, I cannot believe that someone would go on vacation and tell their husband but NO ONE ELSE. And leave their kids behind but never call in to check on them. And never call in to see how anyone else is doing, never check email, never have any contact with anyone in your world. What if one of the kids were sick or Drew got sick or hurt and couldn't take care of them? What if there were some natural disaster in her town and she wasn't watching the news and something happened to her whole family? I just do not believe someone would be gone for that long and not at least glance at some news or touch base with someone at home.

And I think the less news there is about your town, the further you are from home, the more you worry about it.

If Stacey thought those kids were well taken care of, or if she didn't have kids at all, I might give Drew the benefit of the doubt. But I just can't see her leaving them with him and never checking to see how they are or making other arrangements for them.

Littledeer
11-16-2007, 01:27 PM
If you were going to go on a vacation (leaving husband and kids),

would you be taking ONLY a bikini, $25,000 cash and a deed to a house??

It's been almost two weeks now, don't you think Stacy would have contacted someone to see how her kids are doing by now????

I think Stacy being on vacation, is a moot point. No how, no way.

IMO

Vegas Bride
11-16-2007, 01:39 PM
Also, if she was to have gone on vacation, wouldn't there have been things such as looking up hotels etc on the computer, checking on flights. There is a ton of things I start checking on line when planning a trip to help pick where I want to stay and what I want to do when there.
And not taking make-up? Now what woman would leave that behind if they were running off with a new man?
She also would have made some arrangements for her children and told them good-bye.
As smug as DP is about himself, he sure didn't plan her disappearance very well.
Funny thing also about vacations, sooner or later they come to an end and the person comes home, if she had gone away for a week she would have been back by now.

VB

angelmom
11-16-2007, 01:41 PM
If you were going to go on a vacation (leaving husband and kids),

would you be taking ONLY a bikini, $25,000 cash and a deed to a house??

It's been almost two weeks now, don't you think Stacy would have contacted someone to see how her kids are doing by now????

I think Stacy being on vacation, is a moot point. No how, no way.

IMO

ITA

And who takes the deed to their house on vacation anyway???

How did he know it was missing? Raise your hand if you check on the deed to your house on any sort of regular basis. Is DP telling us that he just happened to notice that this one article of clothing and the deed to the house was gone?

Was the safe left open? What made him think to look there? Does he go in and out of it often? Why? What else is in there? Maybe something that could implicate him in Kathleen's death.

Maybe something that could implicate Stacey (real or not) in Kathleen's death that he was holding over her head to make her stay. Maybe she decided she didn't care and she'd take her chances with LE, and he knew he had to kill her too.

wtsn5
11-16-2007, 01:54 PM
I guess what I meant by that is that it hasn't been huge deal, but it is in the news somewhat.

Like when you are getting married or want to be or newly broken up and suddenly it seems that wedding stuff is everywhere. Same with pregnancy, etc. It's what you notice. I would think that even a tiny bit of news that had your name in it would jump out at you.

Also, I cannot believe that someone would go on vacation and tell their husband but NO ONE ELSE. And leave their kids behind but never call in to check on them. And never call in to see how anyone else is doing, never check email, never have any contact with anyone in your world. What if one of the kids were sick or Drew got sick or hurt and couldn't take care of them? What if there were some natural disaster in her town and she wasn't watching the news and something happened to her whole family? I just do not believe someone would be gone for that long and not at least glance at some news or touch base with someone at home.

And I think the less news there is about your town, the further you are from home, the more you worry about it.

If Stacey thought those kids were well taken care of, or if she didn't have kids at all, I might give Drew the benefit of the doubt. But I just can't see her leaving them with him and never checking to see how they are or making other arrangements for them.


I agree with you I believe he is guilty. I can't image any mother that wouldn't check on her kids while away. And it seemed to me she was the kids main caregiver - she got them up for school fed them clothes them. Every Drew made a comment like it hard getting the older kids ready in the morning/ out the door (it was in one of the articles I read on here).

Mygirlsadie
11-16-2007, 02:43 PM
I will be totally shocked if DP is innocent. I can't even bring my mind to think outside the 'guilty' box when it comes to him.. The only reason he said that Stacy did not send that email to her friend because it was not her words or the way she talked was because that was probably an email that Stacy was able to sneak past DP and ooooh how dare he not know her every move. So does he have a new women yet? There are still women out there (even after all this) that would jump at a chance of being with him...

Trino
11-16-2007, 02:48 PM
There are still women out there (even after all this) that would jump at a chance of being with him...

Sad, isn't it?

Littledeer
11-16-2007, 02:49 PM
Posted by Saddie:

There are still women out there (even after all this) that would jump at a chance of being with him...

My first thought when reading this was.........no way!!!!!!! But after reflection, I guess there could be some women that are so desperate for money, love, etc. that possibly they MIGHT entertain the possiblility of wanting a chance with him. How sad, that their own life is worth so little. Because, it would be a short life once they got together with DP.

Trino
11-16-2007, 03:29 PM
Posted by Saddie:

There are still women out there (even after all this) that would jump at a chance of being with him...

My first thought when reading this was.........no way!!!!!!! But after reflection, I guess there could be some women that are so desperate for money, love, etc. that possibly they MIGHT entertain the possiblility of wanting a chance with him. How sad, that their own life is worth so little. Because, it would be a short life once they got together with DP.

Nah. These women would visit him in prison. They probably are already on a first name basis with the guards (or some of the other inmates).

Littledeer
11-16-2007, 03:40 PM
Just like the ones who visit/write Scott Peterson.

MREG2
11-16-2007, 03:45 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


IF DP IS INNOCENT:

I will take his hand and with a pail in the other hand, go down the Yellow Brick Road with this Lion.

Now that I said that, thank God I don't have to worry about following through, as I don't believe for a minute he is innocent of ALL the disappearances/deaths of past wifes, and possibly others. (Christine Cales, Monica's brother), and any others.

Mygirlsadie
11-16-2007, 05:02 PM
Yep...those are the ones! :loser:



Just like the ones who visit/write Scott Peterson.

curiositycat
11-16-2007, 05:16 PM
If you were going on a vacation, you might take 25,000.00 and buy a few new bikinis:dance:



If you were going to go on a vacation (leaving husband and kids),

would you be taking ONLY a bikini, $25,000 cash and a deed to a house??

It's been almost two weeks now, don't you think Stacy would have contacted someone to see how her kids are doing by now????

I think Stacy being on vacation, is a moot point. No how, no way.

IMO

angelmom
11-16-2007, 05:21 PM
Just like the ones who visit/write Scott Peterson.

Just think, they can photocopy all of their letters and save the trouble of writing them 2 or 3 times...

Dear Inmate Peterson...

Littledeer
11-16-2007, 05:22 PM
cc:

LOL!!!

So where would I go then with the change???

curiositycat
11-16-2007, 05:29 PM
:blowkiss:cc:

LOL!!!

So where would I go then with the change???

DeltaDawn
11-17-2007, 04:38 PM
If Drew was sincerely innocent Armand I do believe that he would have been the person to call her in missing, to start the searches and to want to keep her face in the news hoping someone would remember seeing something. But since his reaction has been the exact opposite I would say he is quilty as quilty can be of causing her disappearance and subsequent death.

busybee
11-18-2007, 11:26 AM
Just think, they can photocopy all of their letters and save the trouble of writing them 2 or 3 times...

Dear Inmate Peterson...


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: LMAO!!!!!! That is soooooooooooooooo funny! Thank you I needed a good laugh today!:crazy: