View Full Version : Stacy Ann Peterson, Bolingbrook IL #8
WindChime
11-18-2007, 04:20 PM
Links to the other 7 threads.
#7 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56117
#6 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56008
#5 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55978
#4 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55919
#3 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55851
#2 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55720
#1 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55533
Leila
11-18-2007, 05:29 PM
I'm intrigued by Scott Rossetto. According to news reports he was the brother of a boy she dated in high school. The boy she dated joined the army and after that Stacy began seeing DP. Scott Rossetto appears to only have been a friend from Stacy's past, so I'm wondering why she would have contacted him out of the blue.
There had to be a reason for Stacy contacting Scott Rossetto, and the only thing I can think of is that Stacy felt that he could be trusted and could help her in some way. What he does for a living might be important, as she may have been contacting him for help he could provide in the capacity of his occupation.
The police don't consider Scott Rossetto a suspect, so he must have a good alibi for the time period in question.
cricket
11-18-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that the investigators asked him not to divulge what they talked to him about. I think that's why he is not saying more than he is.
itsreenw
11-18-2007, 06:02 PM
Scott said Stacy dated his brother and also a friend of his. I don't think Stacy called him out of the blue. I really doubt she would have any male #s in her possession while living with DP.. She had no privacy.
I think DP being an old, sloppy, insecure loser was probably grilling Stacy about her past relationships and male friends. I can just hear him saying "when's the last time you talked to Bob? Dick? Harry? Scott?- call him, I want to hear what he says to you".
He could easily get Scott's #from accessing records at work which is illegal but hell, that's DP. He can do what he wants.
I am leaning toward thinking Stacy had a "friend" but so what?? I''d cheat on that old dirt bag too. Drew won't let anyone divorce him unless it's on his terms. He told Stacy to wait til he retired to get a divorce. What about what she wanted???? I like Scott. He's not scared of DP.
cricket
11-18-2007, 06:10 PM
Fox is reporting that this Scott guy is being called before a grand jury this coming week. I'm thinking that this means there are two grand juries. We know there is one looking into Kathleen Savio's death, but this guy would be testifying about Stacy.
If they have a grand jury for Stacy's disappearance - it could mean an arrest is coming!
Taximom
11-18-2007, 06:19 PM
Oh, good catch, cricket. I hope there are two grand juries. Drew better save up for a few suits since he's gonna be losing even MORE weight now.
mysteriew
11-18-2007, 06:20 PM
A common reaction to being cheated on is to cheat on the spouse- or to make the spouse think they are being cheated on. She didn't call an old bf (which would be more likely if she was trying to cheat.) So maybe by calling an old friend, that was as close as she thought she could come at this time.
Maybe she thought he could help her get a job.
Many times an abuser will isolate their spouse, not allowing them to see friends or family. Or the only friends she is allowed to have are 'his' friends. Maybe that was her first step, reaching out to someone who was once a friend. Hoping to have a supportive friendship in her new life without drew p.
Maybe she was reaching out to her own life before drew p. Hoping that talking about old times might help her to gain the strength to be able to leave.
mysteriew
11-18-2007, 06:35 PM
More details about the relationship
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3882766&page=1
chicoliving
11-18-2007, 06:35 PM
A few questions were answered here (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56353)
concernedperson
11-18-2007, 06:35 PM
A common reaction to being cheated on is to cheat on the spouse- or to make the spouse think they are being cheated on. She didn't call an old bf (which would be more likely if she was trying to cheat.) So maybe by calling an old friend, that was as close as she thought she could come at this time.
Maybe she thought he could help her get a job.
Many times an abuser will isolate their spouse, not allowing them to see friends or family. Or the only friends she is allowed to have are 'his' friends. Maybe that was her first step, reaching out to someone who was once a friend. Hoping to have a supportive friendship in her new life without drew p.
Maybe she was reaching out to her own life before drew p. Hoping that talking about old times might help her to gain the strength to be able to leave.
Good thoughts Myst and probably what was going on. The networking that an old friend can provide is invaluable when you are down and out. Stacy was in that situation IMO. She knew she couldn't go on with Drew but she needed her sea legs to get past him.
mysteriew
11-18-2007, 06:37 PM
The vigil
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009196591
More vigil, more details
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/656495,CST-NWS-vigil18.article
Relatives Try to Confront Ill. Officer
Armed with anger, hope and candles, participants in a vigil for a former police officer's missing fourth wife left a pink placard reading "Where's our sister Stacy?" — along with several other signs — on the man's porch Saturday.
Former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson rumbled away on his motorcycle before the vigil participants arrived but told reporters afterward that the ordeal has been hard on his children.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9LSLrzFQGStXb1io5FdErAtFFKgD8SVR7B82
Ok, I have to say this. IMO, drew p is using his children. His words- media is terrorizing his children. His words, the vigil was hard on his children. But he is the one who left during the vigil, but he left the children at home. And he didn't stay home to comfort them. Also, you would think he would allow the children to join in the vigil. After all, it was in honor of their mothers.
itsreenw
11-18-2007, 07:05 PM
snip
It wasn't always that way. Stacy Peterson's disappearance, say her relatives and friends, capped an explosive seven-year relationship that started with a teenage girl swept off her feet with attention and gifts from a man 30 years her senior, then turned progressively sinister as her once-loving husband grew increasingly controlling and suspicious, forbidding her to see family and friends, and accusing her of infidelity.
Hmmm...she was just a kid. PERVERT!! What did she see in him? YUCK.
Sedona
11-18-2007, 07:17 PM
Drew keeps saying he is just waiting. I noticed when they interviewed him last that he knows it is a matter of time.
If you have been following some of the past things I have said in post (yeah, since I am a forum sensation) I have been saying all along that I feel Drew is Narcissistic and they use their children to manipulate. They are mere extensions of them. He is a victim in all this, not Stacey.
I think by the end of the week, they will have him behind bars. :cool:
concernedperson
11-18-2007, 07:19 PM
snip
Hmmm...she was just a kid. PERVERT!! What did she see in him? YUCK.
If she is 23 then the 7 year relationship was when she was 16 not 17 and do we know that he didn't pursue her even before that.
Littledeer
11-18-2007, 07:22 PM
IMO, It has been established that DP marries, then ultimately has an affair, which the wife eventually finds out about, then threatens/abuses her (or more) and he is off to the next one.
Not once have I heard from the ex wifes how much he loved/cared for his chidlren.
And even now, with his 4th wife who not only has had two children with him but has adopted his childen from a previous marriage do I see/hear anything from DP but this:
rumbled away on his motorcycle before the vigil participants arrived but told reporters afterward that the ordeal has been hard on his children.
Jaded
11-18-2007, 07:32 PM
I think that Drew has this mental expiration date in his mind that his wives are no longer attractive to him after a certain age. He obviously likes much younger women, and it just seems that as they start to mature he doesn't like them anymore. Still waiting for some of his concubines to come out of the woodwork.
sassy_texasbelle2
11-18-2007, 07:39 PM
Once they becomes wives and a mother full time I am sure they do not drop everything when he wants something. Be that sex or the attention he thinks he so deserves. Marriage is not based on sex and PMS. I guess it took him 4 wives to find that out.
Thank God he never had one with hotflashes! He would not have made it out! Not with his attitude.
mysteriew
11-18-2007, 07:45 PM
LOL, ain't that the truth!
Leila
11-18-2007, 07:55 PM
snip
Hmmm...she was just a kid. PERVERT!! What did she see in him? YUCK.
I noted that too.........she was only 16, and I have no doubt that his fellow police officers knew he was involved with a 16-year-old minor, and looked the other way. How many cops are hiding the truth about DP? :furious:
Sedona
11-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Did anyone catch him say that Lacy, his daughter, was having tea parties with him and the family and the younger kids were having a good time with the family?
Like this is just a big 'ole party. :mad:
Jaded
11-18-2007, 08:07 PM
I think that's what bothers me the most about this case. It's his total lack of concern and the smugness he exhibited when asked if he would like to say anything to Stacy. He laughed -- anyone else in this position would have plead for her to at least call someone to let them know she is okay. Heck, he should have said for the sake of the kids please call and let them know that Mommy is all right, but he didn't. He spent his interview time attacking his wife's character and turning this into the "woe is me" show.
MCDRAW
11-18-2007, 08:43 PM
DP is so cocky. He figures his buddies will cover for him again. I'm thinking they are scrambling around trying to cover their own butts. Then again if the town is as crooked as RM says. There's no telling what they are doing. I think DP only thinks of himself. I don't think his children ever enter into what he id doing. If he sticks to his pattern, he already has a replacement. She ought to be scared.
Smedley
11-18-2007, 09:02 PM
I don't think the BB LE have anything to do with either of the cases, both are being handled by the Illinois State Poilce at this point.
That is even worse.
concernedperson
11-18-2007, 09:05 PM
That is even worse.
Could be but watching their P's and Q's would be paramount right night. We have Greta constantly on their tail and half the nation is watching too. I don't think it will be swept under the rug this time.
Smedley
11-18-2007, 10:14 PM
They already screwed up letting Baden get involved.
Could be but watching their P's and Q's would be paramount right night. We have Greta constantly on their tail and half the nation is watching too. I don't think it will be swept under the rug this time.
Mygirlsadie
11-18-2007, 10:21 PM
Yeah I know it is just grose! I think what she saw in him was a father figure...something I don't think she really had in her life. When I was 19 I was pursued by a man who was 48 I avoided him like the plague and even quit my job because of him..All I kept thinking when he would hit on me or bring me gifts was ewww you nasty old man!
snip
Hmmm...she was just a kid. PERVERT!! What did she see in him? YUCK.
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 10:33 AM
'I do' Drew might have it in for you
Just a little note of caution to lost souls looking for love
http://www.suntimes.com/news/roeper/657050,CST-NWS-roep19.article
DeltaDawn
11-19-2007, 12:59 PM
I have not been able to be in chat when Ric Mims was there. Can anyone in chat during those times reiterate what Ric has had to say? I saw the one under chat, but not any others. Thank you
chicoliving
11-19-2007, 02:08 PM
I have not been able to be in chat when Ric Mims was there. Can anyone in chat during those times reiterate what Ric has had to say? I saw the one under chat, but not any others. Thank you
Here's a link to the partial chat log
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56353
TiaDaxxy1980
11-19-2007, 03:05 PM
Has anyone noticed Greta has not been posting as much info up to the date? I think she may be discouraged that DP is not offering to speak to her. I'm getting frustrated at the lack of progress the case is making. :-(
browneyedgirl
11-19-2007, 03:16 PM
I was thinking the same thing when I checked Greta's blog today at lunch.
Has anyone heard anything further in regards to TES? Have they left the area? Haven't been able to find anything on this just wondering........
ckwood32
11-19-2007, 03:54 PM
Now look what Drew is saying....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312144,00.html
ckwood32
11-19-2007, 03:55 PM
His lawyer doesn't think he'll face charges!??
Taximom
11-19-2007, 03:55 PM
I was thinking the same thing when I checked Greta's blog today at lunch.
Has anyone heard anything further in regards to TES? Have they left the area? Haven't been able to find anything on this just wondering........
Ric Mims said they pulled out.
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 05:28 PM
His lawyer doesn't think he'll face charges!??
That is the usual lawyer speak. "There's no evidence", even though there is known circumstantial evidence and even though no one actually knows what evidence police have.
Tom'sGirl
11-19-2007, 05:35 PM
Ric Mims said they pulled out.
Yes, I read they will resume next Monday, after the Thanksgiving Holiday.
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 05:43 PM
Drew makes complaints about the media, but then gives his own interviews. Except for Greta. Anyone else think he is afraid of Greta? She is the main one he is complaining about.
The funny thing is, I really think most of the media coverage would have stopped before this if Drew P hadn't come out in his bandana. He made it so obvious that he was hiding from them that they just couldn't help themselves. And even if they would have stopped, the public doesn't want to miss a word or an action on this one. I know I get up every morning thinking "well I wonder what Drew P will do today!"
Vegas Bride
11-19-2007, 06:09 PM
He may not want to talk to Greta because she's a woman, I have a feeling he sees all women as being not worthy. I'm really wanting to learn more about his whole family dynamics with his parents and also why the 1 son has nothing to do with him.
VB
dee10134
11-19-2007, 06:14 PM
I don't believe it's because Greta's a woman. I think it may be because Greta does not have the same level of notoriety and fame that Giraldo and Matt Lauer have. Also, DP did an interview with a local female reporter in his own home (I cannot recall her name, but I'm pretty sure she was local)...
I think in DP's imagination, he's better than anyone and will only associate with people that HE feels are as great as he is. If that makes any sense?
SuziQ
11-19-2007, 06:25 PM
Yes, I read they will resume next Monday, after the Thanksgiving Holiday.
Equisearch? Or the ISP search?
SuziQ
11-19-2007, 06:36 PM
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.stacy.2.570736.html
(snip)
They have seen Illinois State Police looking for Stacy. Neighbors tell CBS 2 officers were in Shorewood Saturday asking about Peterson and asking if they had ever seen a GMC Yukon in Rosetto's driveway.
and
Elizabeth Lopez, Scott Rosetto's neighbor, said authorities left a yellow legal piece of paper with her that has a number of who to get a hold of. "He actually has a girlfriend that he's been involved with for a while." She said she doesn't think Peterson and Rosetto are involved.
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Stacy drove a Pontiac. Drew drove a Yukon Denali. Why isn't LE asking about a Pontiac?
SeekingJana
11-19-2007, 06:46 PM
They already screwed up letting Baden get involved.
If there are other posts explaining this, please direct me to them and forgive me for asking, I couldn't find the answer to this. How is having Dr. Baden involved in Kathleen's latest autopsy considered to be a " screw up"? I'm asking because I don't understand. Thanks.
Maria
SuziQ
11-19-2007, 06:48 PM
Not sure who the below article refers to. ISP, ES, Family and friends? My understanding is too much politics and too many ego's got in the way of ES being able to do their job. And that they will not be back.
******
Peterson search takes break
For three weeks, volunteers have combed the landscape of the southwest suburbs looking for 23-year-old Stacy Peterson, but the search will be put on hold this week for Thanksgiving.
Roy Taylor, a family friend helping to lead the effort, said Sunday that searchers will continue to gather information, review maps of the area and coordinate a search planned for the weekend after Thanksgiving. Those who wish to continue looking for the missing mother of two are welcome to do so, Taylor added. (more at link)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson19nov19,0,4914134.story?coll=chi_tab01_lay out
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 06:52 PM
A commenter at Greta's left this info.
Be sure and read the court document- esp note the name and read the facts and background of the case.
http://www.ilnb.uscourts.gov/JudgeSquires/Opinions/99a00069.pdf
Trino
11-19-2007, 07:04 PM
If there are other posts explaining this, please direct me to them and forgive me for asking, I couldn't find the answer to this. How is having Dr. Baden involved in Kathleen's latest autopsy considered to be a " screw up"? I'm asking because I don't understand. Thanks.Maria
He's part of Greta's show. Greta has pretty much seen DP as the reason Stacy is missing. If the autoposy were to be truly independent, it should be someone independent of the news media.
Taximom
11-19-2007, 07:07 PM
A commenter at Greta's left this info.
Be sure and read the court document- esp note the name and read the facts and background of the case.
http://www.ilnb.uscourts.gov/JudgeSquires/Opinions/99a00069.pdf
OMG! You couldn't make this stuff up. Nobody would believe it.
"A daughter hospitalized for reasons related to the dissolution disputes between her parents" (Brodsky's)?
Wow. So much more. Thanks for the link.
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 07:18 PM
Has anyone notice that wife # 2 says she was threatened that Drew knew how to make a murder look like an accident?
Then Kathleen Savio allegedly tells her family that if she ever dies in an accident, she was murdered. Then she dies.
Then along comes Stacy. In early articles, family talked about how Stacy said if she ever disappeared for family to look for her? Then she disappears.
It is almost as though Drew P had thought for a while that 2 "accidents" might be suspicious, so he changed his threat and his actions accordingly.
DeltaDawn
11-19-2007, 07:24 PM
Here's a link to the partial chat log
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56353
Thank you Chicoliving..that was informative..hope he speaks out to Greta . She has been on the ground there and I think that she is someone he can trust.
Trino
11-19-2007, 07:27 PM
Here's a link to the partial chat log
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56353
Maybe it's time to find more about the corruption in BB. This is really scarey.
SeriouslySearching
11-19-2007, 07:41 PM
A few questions were answered here (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56353)I am logged in, but everytime I click on one of the links posted...it takes me to the login screen. :waitasec: What is up with that, Chico? LOL I am dying to read the chat log!!
DeltaDawn
11-19-2007, 07:45 PM
I think that Drew was very evasive in today's Interview with Matt Lauer. Whenever a pertinent question came up the answer was no comment. Many of those questios dealt with Kitty's death and the recent autopsy. If he was truly innocent in Kitty's demise and in Stacy's there would have been no reason not to answer these questions. Infact as his defense he should have been able to say how much he missed them both, how he hoped Stacy was found soon...stec.
As controlling as he was, if the police can't find her why hasn't he hired his own private investigator? Why didn't he help in any of the searches? His behavior was not normal in his marriages and is not normal now for a spouse who'se wife is missing.
SeriouslySearching
11-19-2007, 07:47 PM
I must say I was so disgusted to hear Drew make the comment about losing 30 lbs. then going into his "comedy routine" about Jenny Craig. What a jerk! Again, it is all about himself and he goes into making inappropriate jokes when this is supposed to be about the mother of his children who is missing. Does he feel he is gaining support of the public by his humor?!
Doesn't he have the slightest clue how it truly makes him look?! Who in the hell cares how hard this is on him?!?! This is NOT a laughing matter either! How more calloused and cruel can this man prove himself to be on national television? He honestly must believe he is winning in the court of public opinion and could not be more wrong! If anything, this will all be played back during his trial to ensure the jury knows how he acted while everyone else was looking for his wife.
DeltaDawn
11-19-2007, 07:48 PM
As far as the autopsy goes Baden was asked by Kitty's family to do the autopsy..as someone independent from the current coroner. However the first coroner's results did not differ from what Baden found. The first coroner had no choice in the matter it was sent to a jury. The law has changed and had that happened now her death would have been ruled differently then an accident.
SeriouslySearching
11-19-2007, 07:53 PM
They already screwed up letting Baden get involved.I totally disagree with this. Having Dr. Baden do another autopsy at the family's request gives the family assurance they will have direct access to the findings and do not have to depend on LE to provide them with such. After all these years and tears, this family deserves to know EVERYTHING about the death of Kathleen. Hiring Baden was one of the most intelligent and beneficial things they have done in relation to her case.
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 07:57 PM
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.stacy.2.570736.html
(snip)
They have seen Illinois State Police looking for Stacy. Neighbors tell CBS 2 officers were in Shorewood Saturday asking about Peterson and asking if they had ever seen a GMC Yukon in Rosetto's driveway.
and
Elizabeth Lopez, Scott Rosetto's neighbor, said authorities left a yellow legal piece of paper with her that has a number of who to get a hold of. "He actually has a girlfriend that he's been involved with for a while." She said she doesn't think Peterson and Rosetto are involved.
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Stacy drove a Pontiac. Drew drove a Yukon Denali. Why isn't LE asking about a Pontiac?
Wasn't it the car that the cadaver dog hit on?
The statement that he had had a girlfriend for a while, she doesn't say but I take it as she is talking about Rosetto that has a girlfriend.
SuziQ
11-19-2007, 07:59 PM
A commenter at Greta's left this info.
Be sure and read the court document- esp note the name and read the facts and background of the case.
http://www.ilnb.uscourts.gov/JudgeSquires/Opinions/99a00069.pdf
Wow, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
SuziQ
11-19-2007, 08:02 PM
Wasn't it the car that the cadaver dog hit on?
The statement that he had had a girlfriend for a while, she doesn't say but I take it as she is talking about Rosetto that has a girlfriend.
LE refuses to comment on which car the cadaver dog hit on. Well I want to know!
SuziQ
11-19-2007, 08:07 PM
A commenter at Greta's left this info.
Be sure and read the court document- esp note the name and read the facts and background of the case.
http://www.ilnb.uscourts.gov/JudgeSquires/Opinions/99a00069.pdf
Did you see this one? Crossposted from another thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1804268&postcount=94
From I.B.Nora
Is this what you are looking for?
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11...ng-2/#comments (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/19/monday-morning-2/#comments)
Comment by laura
November 19th, 2007 at 11:47 am
when you really have no more to say about the suspect…try his attorney
On May 8, 2001 the Administrator filed a one-count complaint against Respondent Joel Alan Brodsky alleging that he forged a signature on bank forms in order to withdraw client funds from the bank, falsely endorsed a cashier’s check issued by the bank, failed to deposit the proceeds in a separate identifiable trust account and kept the funds for his own purposes. He was charged with the following misconduct:
conversion;
failure to deposit and maintain client funds in a separate identifiable trust account in violation of Rule 1.15(a) and 1.15(d) of the Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct;
committing a criminal act that reflects adversely on the lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer by committing the
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crime of forgery in violation of 720 ILCS 5/17-3 in violation of Rule 8.4(a)(3);
conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation in violation of Rule 8.4(a)(4);
conduct which tends to defeat the administration of justice or bring the courts or legal profession into disrepute in violation of Supreme Court Rule 771.
he was only suspended 3 months for this…have fun, bloggers
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 08:35 PM
LOL, no I had missed that one. From what is coming out of Greta it looks like Brodsky and Drew P may have a lot in common.
SuziQ
11-19-2007, 08:41 PM
LOL, no I had missed that one. From what is coming out of Greta it looks like Brodsky and Drew P may have a lot in common.
Looks like Drew didn't get any "good" takers from his appeal for a good attorney. I think he found this one at the local Bolingbrook strip mall. You know in between the tanning salon and the dollar store.
Leila
11-19-2007, 10:15 PM
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.stacy.2.570736.html
(snip)
They have seen Illinois State Police looking for Stacy. Neighbors tell CBS 2 officers were in Shorewood Saturday asking about Peterson and asking if they had ever seen a GMC Yukon in Rosetto's driveway.
and
Elizabeth Lopez, Scott Rosetto's neighbor, said authorities left a yellow legal piece of paper with her that has a number of who to get a hold of. "He actually has a girlfriend that he's been involved with for a while." She said she doesn't think Peterson and Rosetto are involved.
******
Stacy drove a Pontiac. Drew drove a Yukon Denali. Why isn't LE asking about a Pontiac?
A very interesting detail in that article..........................
"He did say Peterson called him right before she vanished."
This is the brother of a man that Stacy dated prior to getting involved with and marrying DP. Why would DP be calling him right before Stacy vanished?
Leila
11-19-2007, 10:21 PM
I am logged in, but everytime I click on one of the links posted...it takes me to the login screen. :waitasec: What is up with that, Chico? LOL I am dying to read the chat log!!
I just had that happen to me too.........and I had been logged in as I've made a few posts.
Leila
11-19-2007, 10:24 PM
Maybe it's time to find more about the corruption in BB. This is really scarey.
I agree........I think the corruption in Bolingbrook might be the key as to why Kathleen's murder was classified as an "accident." There's been a number of posts on Gretawire from people in Bolingbrook, and they all agree there's corruption on the police department and other local officials.
Leila
11-19-2007, 10:33 PM
Wasn't it the car that the cadaver dog hit on?
The statement that he had had a girlfriend for a while, she doesn't say but I take it as she is talking about Rosetto that has a girlfriend.
Yes, it was Stacy's car that the cadaver dog hit on.
I took it to mean that Rossetto had a girlfriend he's been involved with for a while.
mysteriew
11-19-2007, 11:34 PM
A very interesting detail in that article..........................
"He did say Peterson called him right before she vanished."
This is the brother of a man that Stacy dated prior to getting involved with and marrying DP. Why would DP be calling him right before Stacy vanished?
Good point Leila. But I took it that Stacy Peterson called him.
After first being mentioned by full name once in the article, all persons are addressed only by their last name. Including Kathleen Savio.
Tom'sGirl
11-20-2007, 12:21 AM
Good point Leila. But I took it that Stacy Peterson called him.
After first being mentioned by full name once in the article, all persons are addressed only by their last name. Including Kathleen Savio.
Yes he said Stacy had called him.
SuziQ
11-20-2007, 12:31 AM
Yes, it was Stacy's car that the cadaver dog hit on.
I took it to mean that Rossetto had a girlfriend he's been involved with for a while.
IIRC, LE has refused to state which car the cadaver dog hit on.
Chi Town Legal Freak
11-20-2007, 12:39 AM
IIRC, LE has refused to state which car the cadaver dog hit on.
Suzi,
Is there a link to this? I tried to pull up CBS and it gave me Kathleen Savio's story.
mysteriew
11-20-2007, 12:49 AM
SusieQ, you are right LE has not confirmed. But I believe that info was told by a neighbor- they were all out watching during the search.
SuziQ
11-20-2007, 01:34 AM
Suzi,
Is there a link to this? I tried to pull up CBS and it gave me Kathleen Savio's story.
It is in the vid or transcript for the presser. A reporter asked which car the cadaver dog hit on and the response was, IIRC, we can't answer that.
Trino
11-20-2007, 11:34 AM
Stacy has been missing for over three weeks. How much more time is LE willing to devote to looking for Stacy, especially as the weather turns cold?
SuziQ
11-20-2007, 01:32 PM
A good site for all info on the Peterson case:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/index.html
mysteriew
11-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Stories of lost so terrible, too easy to forget
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-schmich_bd18nov18,1,2403140.column?coll=chi_news_l ocal_util
I have to comment on the above article and others that I have seen today. There is talk of a "media sensation" of "entertainment" and other descriptions. But by keeping these women's names going, perhaps there is a chance of promoting some awareness of the problem of domestic violence. We think of physical crime as a problem that happens in other crime ridden neighborhoods. But DV crosses all classes, all races, all religions. It can and does happen in all kinds of neighborhoods and communities large and small. And it affects more than just the victim and their families. It affects our workplaces and our communities.
SeriouslySearching
11-20-2007, 02:46 PM
Stacy has been missing for over three weeks. How much more time is LE willing to devote to looking for Stacy, especially as the weather turns cold?Even if LE doesn't continue their search...I am sure the family will. However, I think LE knows they have to exhaust every available avenue before they discontinue looking for her because of the scrutiny being put on them due to Savio's case now. They cannot afford to stop searching too soon. They have to unturn every stone possible.
mysteriew
11-20-2007, 02:46 PM
INTERVIEW A 'COMPLETE DISASTER'
SPOKESWOMAN: DREW PETERSON'S TELEVISION APPEARANCES UPSET FAMILY OF HIS MISSING WIFE
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/658571,4_1_JO20_MISSING_S1.article
mysteriew
11-20-2007, 02:52 PM
-- In an exclusive interview with NBC5's Alex Perez, Drew Peterson said he feels like a victim of scrutiny and uninformed public opinion.
snip~"All these women are saying negative things about me, but at one time, I was good enough to marry," he said
sniip~Meanwhile, sources said Peterson's friend, Rick Mims, who initially supported Peterson but later questioned him, is considering an offer to write a book about this case.
http://www.nbc5.com/news/14643552/detail.html
Drew P a victim???? More like a :liar:
mysteriew
11-20-2007, 02:59 PM
ONLINE POLL: Do you think the Peterson story has been portrayed fairly by the media?
http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/oakbrook/homepage/x715648946
TiaDaxxy1980
11-20-2007, 03:26 PM
SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!
GIVE STACY'S FAMILY SOMETHING TO BE THANKFUL FOR!!!
LET'S TRY TO GET STACY'S PAGE UP TO 5,000 FRIENDS BY THANKSGIVING.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/taw81280/BringStacyHome.gif
browneyedgirl
11-20-2007, 04:08 PM
I am curious whether or not Drew was planning on retirement before Stacy went missing? Does anyone know or heard anything about this?
I am curious to know whether or not this has been in the works for a while, thinking he would be cleared of any wrong doing on the allegations brought against him, or if this was just a spur of the moment thing after this case made the airwaves?
I know he has made comments about having the children provided for, if something were to happen to him, and guardianship has been taken care of as well......just makes me think "flight risk"
Maybe he's planning on being gone by the time the endictment has been handed down.
JerzWhim
11-20-2007, 04:13 PM
I am curious whether or not Drew was planning on retirement before Stacy went missing? Does anyone know or heard anything about this?
It would help to know if his department has a minimum notification requirement. In the NYPD, an officer must submit a request to retire 30 days prior to his/her last working day.
Bigfoot
11-20-2007, 04:24 PM
I recall hearing that he had only eleven days until retirement, and that was when they were first reporting Stacy as missing.
Tom'sGirl
11-20-2007, 04:36 PM
[quote=browneyedgirl;1806409]I am curious whether or not Drew was planning on retirement before Stacy went missing? Does anyone know or heard anything about this?
I don't know how it works in Illinois, but our here unless you were told to retire for certain reasons you have to submit a letter of Intent to Retire and stipulate the date. You are then given your Retirement options as to benifits, etc. I think he had this in the works for some time, just a guess though.
I am curious whether or not Drew was planning on retirement before Stacy went missing? Does anyone know or heard anything about this?
I am curious to know whether or not this has been in the works for a while, thinking he would be cleared of any wrong doing on the allegations brought against him, or if this was just a spur of the moment thing after this case made the airwaves?
I know he has made comments about having the children provided for, if something were to happen to him, and guardianship has been taken care of as well......just makes me think "flight risk"
Maybe he's planning on being gone by the time the endictment has been handed down.
BEG,
I'm afraid I'm not so generous of 'he's innocent' as you. And I'm English. I think he retired to STOP the internal investigation from going any further than it had. He resigned. It stopped. I think if the internal investigation had gone any further, he would have been dismissed from the force and lost his pension. As for flight? It would not surprise me in the least. Leave the kids, as he has done so since this broke. Who do you think was with the kids when he flew to NY?
SuziQ
11-20-2007, 06:01 PM
IIRC, one of Stacy's family members said Stacy asked Drew for a divorce months ago and Drew asked her to wait till he retired. The retirement was in the works. Interestingly, Drew was only two days from retirement when he handed in his resignation. So why the rush? Unless Drew was convicted of a job related felony in those two days, he was going to get his pension. The only thing the resignation stopped were the two internal PD investigations. And don't forget, the Mayor was REAL quick accepting Drews resignation.
grace60
11-20-2007, 06:08 PM
IIRC, one of Stacy's family members said Stacy asked Drew for a divorce months ago and Drew asked her to wait till he retired. The retirement was in the works. Interestingly, Drew was only two days from retirement when he handed in his resignation. So why the rush? Unless Drew was convicted of a job related felony in those two days, he was going to get his pension. The only thing the resignation stopped were the two internal PD investigations. And don't forget, the Mayor was REAL quick accepting Drews resignation.
He may very well have agreed to the divorce months ago thinking it would give him time to "win back her heart" or figure out how to get rid of her.
Leila
11-20-2007, 06:09 PM
Good point Leila. But I took it that Stacy Peterson called him.
After first being mentioned by full name once in the article, all persons are addressed only by their last name. Including Kathleen Savio.
Thanks for the correction. :) If Stacy called Rossetto just before she went missing, the only thing I can think of is she was looking for help, and thought Rossetto was someone who could help her. There was one article that stated that Rossetto isn't a suspect and what he told LE is being kept confidential. I have to think that there's something there that's important.
TGIRecovered
11-20-2007, 06:13 PM
I don't believe he had any intention of sharing his retirement in a divorce settlement. Leila's right-he needed time to plan how to get rid of her.
Susan
TGIRecovered
11-20-2007, 06:17 PM
I wonder if there is something special about Rossetto's line of work which would be helpful to her, like, LE from a different jurisdiction, or a minister or counselor or financial advisor. Maybe he does PI work. I wish I could find out what he does for a living!
Susan
Tom'sGirl
11-20-2007, 06:22 PM
I wonder if there is something special about Rossetto's line of work which would be helpful to her, like, LE from a different jurisdiction, or a minister or counselor or financial advisor. Maybe he does PI work. I wish I could find out what he does for a living!
Susan
From the photo of him standing in the doorway with his hand on the door I observed his hand/nails appeared to be that of someone who worked with his hands.
Littledeer
11-20-2007, 06:45 PM
As a general rule of thumb, most places (either governmental or non-governmental) require at least 30 days notice prior to retirement or resigning.
Once that is done, after the last day of work, the employee then submits his request to the Pension Plan to receive benefits. The Pension Plan then submits a letter of inquiry to the place of employment requesting the date that the person last worked, his last pay amount and date of payment, etc. This form has to be notorized and sent back to the Pension Plan.
He won't be getting his first payment for at least a month or two. Don't know what the rules are if he is charged with a felony prior to the first payment being sent to him.
Camper
11-20-2007, 06:52 PM
My mailman just brought my mail to the door. My Enquirer came. The headlines say that the police found Stacey's secret diary. Hmmm.
Will read later and report unless someone else already has one. It is a three page article with pics.
.
Littledeer
11-20-2007, 07:02 PM
Enquirer??? If that's the "National Enquirer":
Read everything with a grain of salt! :)
SuziQ
11-20-2007, 07:25 PM
As a general rule of thumb, most places (either governmental or non-governmental) require at least 30 days notice prior to retirement or resigning.
Once that is done, after the last day of work, the employee then submits his request to the Pension Plan to receive benefits. The Pension Plan then submits a letter of inquiry to the place of employment requesting the date that the person last worked, his last pay amount and date of payment, etc. This form has to be notorized and sent back to the Pension Plan.
He won't be getting his first payment for at least a month or two. Don't know what the rules are if he is charged with a felony prior to the first payment being sent to him.
Unfortunately the pension was voted on by "the board" last Thursday night and it's a done deal. The only thing that would have stopped it is a job related felony conviction prior to the pension being granted.
SuziQ
11-20-2007, 07:27 PM
I wonder if there is something special about Rossetto's line of work which would be helpful to her, like, LE from a different jurisdiction, or a minister or counselor or financial advisor. Maybe he does PI work. I wish I could find out what he does for a living!
Susan
I am curious about the same thing. I think Stacy reached out to him for help. She did that with Pam the Thursday before she disappeared. She wanted to know if she could rent a rental property Pam owned. But Pam had already rented it out.
Littledeer
11-20-2007, 07:31 PM
thanks camper for the info. I thought maybe the Pension Board could revoke any payments PRIOR to the first payment being sent if there was a charge put against him.
Tristen07
11-20-2007, 08:07 PM
SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!
GIVE STACY'S FAMILY SOMETHING TO BE THANKFUL FOR!!!
LET'S TRY TO GET STACY'S PAGE UP TO 5,000 FRIENDS BY THANKSGIVING.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/taw81280/BringStacyHome.gif
I could not find an add button on her site???
itsreenw
11-20-2007, 08:19 PM
My mailman just brought my mail to the door. My Enquirer came. The headlines say that the police found Stacey's secret diary. Hmmm.
Will read later and report unless someone else already has one. It is a three page article with pics.
.Camper, don't tease us like that. LOL. Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!!!!!!!
Camper
11-20-2007, 09:41 PM
thanks camper for the info. I thought maybe the Pension Board could revoke any payments PRIOR to the first payment being sent if there was a charge put against him.
--->>>Sorry SuziQ gave you the information not me.
.
Leila
11-20-2007, 09:50 PM
IIRC, one of Stacy's family members said Stacy asked Drew for a divorce months ago and Drew asked her to wait till he retired. The retirement was in the works. Interestingly, Drew was only two days from retirement when he handed in his resignation. So why the rush? Unless Drew was convicted of a job related felony in those two days, he was going to get his pension. The only thing the resignation stopped were the two internal PD investigations. And don't forget, the Mayor was REAL quick accepting Drews resignation.
I think the mayor may have wanted those investigations stopped for personal reasons. The investigations might have uncovered something the mayor didn't want uncovered.
Leila
11-20-2007, 09:52 PM
I wonder if there is something special about Rossetto's line of work which would be helpful to her, like, LE from a different jurisdiction, or a minister or counselor or financial advisor. Maybe he does PI work. I wish I could find out what he does for a living!
Susan
I agree.........it may be his line of work that would have helped Stacy.
Camper
11-20-2007, 10:09 PM
Camper, don't tease us like that. LOL. Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!!!!!!!
--->>>Well the cover page headline says "Cop's Missing Wife: Her Secret Diary Found". BUT BUT when you start reading the article inside you realize it has not been found but there was one. Story says Stacey began the diary three weeks before she went missing.
Article says, "Now, in a startling breakthrough, The Enquirer has learned that three weeks before she vanished, Stacy started keeping a diary in which she chronicled the violent fights between her and her police sergeant husband. And that diary of horror could put him behind bars for murder, say sources."
"I know Stacy kept a diary", friend Steve Cesare said.
Article says, "The Illinois mom - whose Oct 28 disappearance made national headlines - was urged by her aunt, Candac Aikin, to keep a record of her suffering."[/B]
My words here, Candace said that Stacy had bruises all ove her when she was pregnant with her son Anthony who is 4 now.
Further in the first page, The Enquirer sorta backtracks on their headline by saying this, [B]"While The Enquirer has confirmed the existence of the diary and uncovered some of its likely ocntents, Cesare added that are still searching for Stacy's writings."
Article answers some questions I had asked earlier, Kathleens children by DP are Thomas and Kris, 15 and 12 respectively.
Something I did not know was that Kathleen and DP had divorced and were battling in court over financial matters and property BEFORE she died. So that answered partially anyway, why it was not DP who found her body in the bathtub, but on the other hand how or why did DP's friend find her dead body??
Anyone know the answer to that one???
Comment: WS is doing funky things while trying to post, so not sure how it will turn out when I hit submit.
.
maureeng
11-20-2007, 11:31 PM
Hi,
I consolidated your posts regarding the timeline to update as much as possible. Hope it is helpful.
Updated timeline 11/19/07.
1985 DP fired from Bollingbrook PD, 1986 reinstated by a judge
4/28/93 Kathleen Savio visits the Hinsdale Hospital ER
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonemergency.pdf (http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonemergency.pdf)
1997 Kathleen Savio receives anon. letters stating her husband is having an affair
3/11/1998- Christie Marie Cales goes missing from Blue Island IL at age 40. She lost a daughter in 1982 and another in 1987
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200300823S (http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200300823S)
2000 or 2001 or before - Stacy Cales meets DP
2002- States attorney says Drew was convinced their office to press and prosecute two DV charges against Kathleen. She was found innocent at trial.
11/14/2002, Kathleen Savio writes letter to States Attorney
http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonletter.pdf (http://www.amw.com/pdf/petersonletter.pdf)
2003, Kathleen tried to press charges against DP in States Attorneys office without success. S.A. recently stated that it is unusual.
3/11/2002, Kathleen Savio files Order of Protection
http://www.amw.com/pdf/peter001.PDF (http://www.amw.com/pdf/peter001.PDF)
DP and Kathleen Savio's divorce finalized, October 10th 2003, but property settlement is not resolved.
10/18/03 Stacy and DP marry
3/1/2004 Kathleen Savio drowns in her bathtub
Kathleen Savio bathtub
http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=182390 (http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=182390)
10/17/2007 Stacey sends marriage problems email to Steve Cesare
http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburbanb....2.482031.html (http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburbanb....2.482031.html)
10/28/07 SP is missing. The last person to speak to her (other than DP) is Bruce Zidarich, who speaks with her over the cell phone at 10 AM to discuss painting the next day. He tries to reach her and gets her voicemail at 4PM. Cassandra reports her sister missing at 4AM on Oct. 29th. http://cbs2chicago.com/national/Stacy.Peterson.missing.2.481045.html (http://cbs2chicago.com/national/Stacy.Peterson.missing.2.481045.html)
Oct. 30th, SA James Glasgow says he is re-opening the Savio case
11/1/07 Searches conducted of DP’s house. Cadaver dogs get a hit in the bedroom and cars.
11/2 Peterson comments
http://www.nbc5.com/news/14474620/detail.html (http://www.nbc5.com/news/14474620/detail.html)
DP’s plane is a 2 seater aerolight like the following
http://www.solowings.com/products/products.html
11/3 SP’s plane checked out
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/633460,CST-NWS-boling03.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/633460,CST-NWS-boling03.article)
11/5 Sister suspicious
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/05/national/main3451947.shtml?source=search_story (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/05/national/main3451947.shtml?source=search_story)
11/6/07 Texas Equusearch becomes involved
11/6 Kathleen’s assets/will
court filings tell the story
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/636553,4_1_JO06_MISSING_S2.article (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/636553,4_1_JO06_MISSING_S2.article)
Nov. 7: Will County Coroner Patrick O'Neil disputes ruling that the death of Kathleen Savio, Sgt. Drew Peterson's third wife, was an accident
Nov. 9th, 2007- Police name Drew Peterson an official suspect in the investigation of the disappearance of his wife, Stacy Peterson.
http://www.nbc5.com/news/14553153/de...l?dl=mainclick (http://www.nbc5.com/news/14553153/de...l?dl=mainclick)
11/9 Reporter tour of home
http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/09 (http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/09)
11/10 Ric Mims expressing concerns
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5756198 (http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5756198)
11/11 Stacy had a rough life
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/644521,CST-NWS-boling11.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/644521,CST-NWS-boling11.article)
11/11 husband’s story vague
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/644925,4_1_JO11_MISSING_S1.article (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/644925,4_1_JO11_MISSING_S1.article)
11/12 Media is terrorizing my children, searchers believe they are looking for a body, Peterson’s friend – we all know she’s dead
http://www.daylife.com/article/00Ty5nzcGMgzG (http://www.daylife.com/article/00Ty5nzcGMgzG)
11/ 13 nephew believes he did it
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.exhumation.2.566281html (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.exhumation.2.566281html)
11/13 Ric Mims conversation, blue box, concerns about girlfriend, Monika’s brother who hung himself – DP was first on scene – brother did not approve of the relationship
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/page/8 (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/page/8)
11/14 Kathleen Savio
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071114/ap_on_re_us/police_officer_s_wife;_ylt=AvwiEGpiZGHvzGhbA_R15Ih H2ocA (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071114/ap_on_re_us/police_officer_s_wife;_ylt=AvwiEGpiZGHvzGhbA_R15Ih H2ocA)
Peterson’s appearance on NBC
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.567280.html (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.567280.html)
Access to interviews with Peterson and Matt Lauer
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=98456f87-5fda-422e-a4c2-285b8e94a648 (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=98456f87-5fda-422e-a4c2-285b8e94a648)
Article about 2nd Matt Lauer interview 11/19
http://www.nbc5.com/news/14636236/detail.html?dl=mainclick (http://www.nbc5.com/news/14636236/detail.html?dl=mainclick)
11/14 Appearance on TV a mistake
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.567280.html (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.567280.html)
11/15 Grand jury
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_15_nov15,0,71593,full.story?coll=chi_tab0 1_layout (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_15_nov15,0,71593,full.story?coll=chi_tab0 1_layout)
11/16 Stacy’s uncle – Today appearance was to get a lawyer
http://www.nbc5.com/family/14606104/detail.html?dl=mainclick (http://www.nbc5.com/family/14606104/detail.html?dl=mainclick)
11/16 Did police protect DP
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3874806&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3874806&page=1)
11/16 Peterson’s wife recalls threats
http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/friday/chi-peterson_16_nov16,0,1765221.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/friday/chi-peterson_16_nov16,0,1765221.story)
11/17 First wife from David Brown
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/655142,111707boling.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/655142,111707boling.article)
11/18 Peterson allows reporter into home
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5768354 (http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5768354)
11/18 –Stacy seeking help from Scott Rosetto
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/655554,CST-NWS-boling18.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/655554,CST-NWS-boling18.article)
11/18 Sister couldn’t do this anymore
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew_bd_18nov18,1,2715802.story?ctrack=2&cset=true (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew_bd_18nov18,1,2715802.story?ctrack=2&cset=true)
11/18 Stacy’s early relationship presaged the future
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3882766&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3882766&page=1)
11/18 DP says he lost 30 lbs.
11/19 Need for control article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew_bd_18nov18,1,2715802.story?page=2&cset=true&ctrack=1 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew_bd_18nov18,1,2715802.story?page=2&cset=true&ctrack=1)
Nov 19 Peterson’s second wife recalls – taping, cheating, deception
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_16_nov16,1,5731711.story?track=rss&page=2&ctrack=1&cset=true (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_16_nov16,1,5731711.story?track=rss&page=2&ctrack=1&cset=true)
11/19 first wife and NBC with DP
http://www.wbbm780.com/On-TV-This-Morning:-The-Peterson-Story/1226935 (http://www.wbbm780.com/On-TV-This-Morning:-The-Peterson-Story/1226935)
(http://www.amw.com/pdf/peter001.PDF)
Tom'sGirl
11-20-2007, 11:57 PM
Hi,
I consolidated your posts regarding the timeline to update as much as possible. Hope it is helpful.
Updated timeline 11/19/07.
Nice job maureeng, would you consider posting it also at the TimeLine link for reference
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1788246&postcount=1
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 12:03 AM
Nice job maureeng, would you consider posting it also at the TimeLine link for reference
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1788246&postcount=1
I agree, great job! And welcome to WS!
Sedona
11-21-2007, 12:09 AM
Fantastic time line there :clap:
mysteriew
11-21-2007, 12:22 AM
Maureeng that is an excellent timeline! Welcome to WS and I sure do hope you are staying around!
BarnGoddess
11-21-2007, 12:35 AM
--->>>Well the cover page headline says "Cop's Missing Wife: Her Secret Diary Found". BUT BUT when you start reading the article inside you realize it has not been found but there was one. Story says Stacey began the diary three weeks before she went missing.
Article says, "Now, in a startling breakthrough, The Enquirer has learned that three weeks before she vanished, Stacy started keeping a diary in which she chronicled the violent fights between her and her police sergeant husband. And that diary of horror could put him behind bars for murder, say sources."
"I know Stacy kept a diary", friend Steve Cesare said.
Article says, "The Illinois mom - whose Oct 28 disappearance made national headlines - was urged by her aunt, Candac Aikin, to keep a record of her suffering."[/b]
My words here, Candace said that Stacy had bruises all ove her when she was pregnant with her son Anthony who is 4 now.
Further in the first page, The Enquirer sorta backtracks on their headline by saying this, [B]"While The Enquirer has confirmed the existence of the diary and uncovered some of its likely ocntents, Cesare added that are still searching for Stacy's writings."
Article answers some questions I had asked earlier, Kathleens children by DP are Thomas and Kris, 15 and 12 respectively.
Something I did not know was that Kathleen and DP had divorced and were battling in court over financial matters and property BEFORE she died. So that answered partially anyway, why it was not DP who found her body in the bathtub, but on the other hand how or why did DP's friend find her dead body??
Anyone know the answer to that one???
Comment: WS is doing funky things while trying to post, so not sure how it will turn out when I hit submit.
.
Camper, if this is the Nov 26th issue, I picked it up at the grocery store yesterday.
Tom'sGirl
11-21-2007, 12:48 AM
Further in the first page, The Enquirer sorta backtracks on their headline by saying this, [B]"While The Enquirer has confirmed the existence of the diary and uncovered some of its likely ocntents, Cesare added that are still searching for Stacy's writings."
[quote]
Article answers some questions I had asked earlier, Kathleens children by DP are Thomas and Kris, 15 and 12 respectively.
They're 13 and 14 years of age Camper
mysteriew
11-21-2007, 01:25 AM
The Grand Jury is going on tomorrow and they will be hearing witnesses from this case. And I am going to be out of town with no internet access :eek: :hand: :crazy:
Taximom
11-21-2007, 01:28 AM
Hi,
I consolidated your posts regarding the timeline to update as much as possible. Hope it is helpful.
Updated timeline 11/19/07.
What an awesome thing to do, maureeng! Welcome to WS. What do you think about this case?
close_enough
11-21-2007, 01:44 AM
thanks maureen!!!....great job!...can you post this on the "timeline" thread also?:)
eta...i went ahead & copied it over to the timeline thread..hope it's ok...wasn't sure, with all the links, it would work, but it did :)
awesome first post, maureen:)
welcome!
Camper
11-21-2007, 07:21 AM
[quote=Camper;1807056]
Further in the first page, The Enquirer sorta backtracks on their headline by saying this, [B]"While The Enquirer has confirmed the existence of the diary and uncovered some of its likely ocntents, Cesare added that are still searching for Stacy's writings."
They're 13 and 14 years of age Camper
--->>>Thanks Tom'sGirl. My information was taken 'directly' from The Enquirer. Wonder what else they have wrong!!
I quote my original post again ->Article answers some questions I had asked earlier, "Kathleens children by DP are Thomas and Kris, 15 and 12 respectively."
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DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 09:50 AM
The reason Drew's friend Steve went in and found Kitty's body first was because Drew asked him to go in first with a neighbor. Then Drew heard screams, from the neighbor lady and ran in. Drew says he didn't go in first because Kitty did not want Drew in her house because she felt he might steal things, plant bugs, etc.
DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 09:52 AM
As far as Stacy's journal goes I wonder two things: Was it an online journal, if so the police have probably found it and two if it was on paper Drew probably found it and it went with Stacy when he disposed of the body.
DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 10:28 AM
I was thinking that possibly Rossetto owned a car repair service or something like that. Remember the social service worker that came forward in the beginning talking about Stacy having a fender bender in a parking lot with him? He said she seemed very afraid of Drew and wanted him to settle this outside insurance co and she would pay.
I thought maybe Rossetto was the person who did the repairs for them, and she knew him previously through his bother. Police have said that he was not a boyfriend, etc.
Taximom
11-21-2007, 10:36 AM
The reason Drew's friend Steve went in and found Kitty's body first was because Drew asked him to go in first with a neighbor. Then Drew heard screams, from the neighbor lady and ran in. Drew says he didn't go in first because Kitty did not want Drew in her house because she felt he might steal things, plant bugs, etc.
And Drew asked his friend to go in because he knew she was dead and would probably laugh too hard, being the joker he is.
SeriouslySearching
11-21-2007, 10:41 AM
The reason Drew's friend Steve went in and found Kitty's body first was because Drew asked him to go in first with a neighbor. Then Drew heard screams, from the neighbor lady and ran in. Drew says he didn't go in first because Kitty did not want Drew in her house because she felt he might steal things, plant bugs, etc.I find it quite telling he would say such things. My first thought was...the reason she felt those things...are because they were true, but isn't it curious HE would mention them at all?!
He probably did steal things and plant bugs in her home. Drew isn't the type to just "let go" of any relationship and lose the control he has over the other person. He will make sure he stays in their life (as he does popping up in the life of wife #2 still) and keeps their level of fear going.
This is the very top reason his story about Stacy makes absolutely NO sense. He would NEVER allow a woman to "dis" him like that and just let her go away with no consequences of her actions. He is Judge, Jury, and Executioner in every relationship.
SeriouslySearching
11-21-2007, 10:43 AM
I was thinking that possibly Rossetto owned a car repair service or something like that. Remember the social service worker that came forward in the beginning talking about Stacy having a fender bender in a parking lot with him? He said she seemed very afraid of Drew and wanted him to settle this outside insurance co and she would pay.
I thought maybe Rossetto was the person who did the repairs for them, and she knew him previously through his bother. Police have said that he was not a boyfriend, etc.Hmmmm...interesting idea! This might have some merit!
Camper
11-21-2007, 10:52 AM
The reason Drew's friend Steve went in and found Kitty's body first was because Drew asked him to go in first with a neighbor. Then Drew heard screams, from the neighbor lady and ran in. Drew says he didn't go in first because Kitty did not want Drew in her house because she felt he might steal things, plant bugs, etc.
--->>>What was the circumstance of Drew even going to Kathleens house that day???
One of my childrens divorce was so antagonistic, with undocumented words flying that my son had his attorney require that words about 'matters' other than the children would be discussed only by email. Things that needed working out about the children could be discussed by telephone.
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DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 11:04 AM
Drew had not been able to reach Kitty and he went to her house to return the children, it was his weekend to have the boys and it was their return time. When she didn't answer the door or her phone he got suspicious he said. So he went home called Steve, another neighbor and a locksmith. The locksmith arrived before Steve, according to Steve. So Drew had Steve and the neighbor go in first, heard the screams and then he came in. Fishy story if I ever heard one.
DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 11:08 AM
If Drew was going to murder Kitty it is my opinion he would have done the job at time when he had the boys, so that he knew they were out of the house and not about to walk in during Kitty's murder.
He also stated the last time he saw or spoke with her was about 2 days before..which fits in with the timeline of her dying about 30 to 40 hours prior to her being found that evening.
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 11:35 AM
If Drew was going to murder Kitty it is my opinion he would have done the job at time when he had the boys, so that he knew they were out of the house and not about to walk in during Kitty's murder.
He also stated the last time he saw or spoke with her was about 2 days before..which fits in with the timeline of her dying about 30 to 40 hours prior to her being found that evening.
I really think Drew thought someone else would find Kitty. When he had to return the boys, time ran out and he had to switch to the he's concerned and couldn't get ahold of her and needs to return the boys script.
SeriouslySearching
11-21-2007, 11:35 AM
Drew had not been able to reach Kitty and he went to her house to return the children, it was his weekend to have the boys and it was their return time. When she didn't answer the door or her phone he got suspicious he said. So he went home called Steve, another neighbor and a locksmith. The locksmith arrived before Steve, according to Steve. So Drew had Steve and the neighbor go in first, heard the screams and then he came in. Fishy story if I ever heard one.The fact he insisted Steve go in WITH one of Kathleen's best friends makes it even more suspicious.
If he was there to return the children...where were they? He would not have suspected really there was anything wrong that he couldn't reach her other than she wasn't home since it wasn't her weekend with the kids...so why go to all the trouble of getting a locksmith, etc. Did she keep her car in the garage? I think so since she accused him once of changing the code to the opener. He couldn't see if she was home or not! He had no reason to "suspect" something was so very wrong...unless he already knew beforehand.
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 11:38 AM
The fact he insisted Steve go in WITH one of Kathleen's best friends makes it even more suspicious.
If he was there to return the children...where were they? He would not have suspected really there was anything wrong that he couldn't reach her other than she wasn't home since it wasn't her weekend with the kids...so why go to all the trouble of getting a locksmith, etc. Did she keep her car in the garage? He couldn't see if she was home or not! I think so since she accused him once of changing the code to the opener. He had no reason to "suspect" something was so very wrong...unless he already knew beforehand.
Drew claims that he tried to call Kitty all weekend. Why? And are their phone records that far back?
Another thing about the boob job, etc. Is their any proof of this? Or is BS that Drew is coming up with?
browneyedgirl
11-21-2007, 11:48 AM
BEG,
I'm afraid I'm not so generous of 'he's innocent' as you. And I'm English. I think he retired to STOP the internal investigation from going any further than it had. He resigned. It stopped. I think if the internal investigation had gone any further, he would have been dismissed from the force and lost his pension. As for flight? It would not surprise me in the least. Leave the kids, as he has done so since this broke. Who do you think was with the kids when he flew to NY?
I apologize for this misunderstanding. I did not mean in ANY way that I believe that he is innocent. I believe that he is the farthest thing from it.....I was trying to make the point that it seems odd to me that he already has things planned out, in case something were to happen to him, ie...jail,taking an unexpected vacation.
What I am trying to say is this, I think it's "fishy" that he already has all of these plans made which leads me to believe that 1 of 2 things are going to happen. A) He knows he will get indicted for KS murder and looking at jail time or B) He's made plans to leave and leave the children behind.
Bigfoot
11-21-2007, 11:50 AM
DP talked about the boob job, braces, tummy tuck - all things that Stacy allegedly wanted - on one of the tv talk shows. Someone who personally knows DP and Stacy had told me about the boob job the first day she went missing - among other things - mostly about how he wanted a trophy wife etc.
browneyedgirl
11-21-2007, 11:51 AM
IIRC, one of Stacy's family members said Stacy asked Drew for a divorce months ago and Drew asked her to wait till he retired. The retirement was in the works. Interestingly, Drew was only two days from retirement when he handed in his resignation. So why the rush? Unless Drew was convicted of a job related felony in those two days, he was going to get his pension. The only thing the resignation stopped were the two internal PD investigations. And don't forget, the Mayor was REAL quick accepting Drews resignation.
Exactly, SuziQ. Which is why I believe was the reason for the resignation in the first place. Trying to stay 1 step ahead of LE and trying to minimize the abuse of the badge that was going to come from the internal investigation.:twocents:
browneyedgirl
11-21-2007, 11:53 AM
DP talked about the boob job, braces, tummy tuck - all things that Stacy allegedly wanted - on one of the tv talk shows. Someone who personally knows DP and Stacy had told me about the boob job the first day she went missing - among other things - mostly about how he wanted a trophy wife etc.
That comment makes sense with the other things we've come to know about his personality. It has always struck me how much all the wives look alike. Especially, IMO, I think SP looks alot like a young version of KS.
What a nut job he is.
DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 11:55 AM
Drew probably thought that her current boyfriend, which has never been proven by any one else, would find her or one of her friends would find her. I don't think he thought that she would just lie there in the tub for almost 2 days and not be found. I think he had alibis prepared incase she was found while he had the boys. He probably spent more time with the boys that weekend then he ever did before or has since.
browneyedgirl
11-21-2007, 11:58 AM
I find it quite telling he would say such things. My first thought was...the reason she felt those things...are because they were true, but isn't it curious HE would mention them at all?!
He probably did steal things and plant bugs in her home. Drew isn't the type to just "let go" of any relationship and lose the control he has over the other person. He will make sure he stays in their life (as he does popping up in the life of wife #2 still) and keeps their level of fear going.
This is the very top reason his story about Stacy makes absolutely NO sense. He would NEVER allow a woman to "dis" him like that and just let her go away with no consequences of her actions.
:clap: :clap: :clap: He is Judge, Jury, and Executioner in every relationship.
I couldn't agree more.
Taximom
11-21-2007, 11:59 AM
My ex would have been P.O.'d if I weren't home when he brought our daughter back from visitation. He would have left a few messages probably starting with impatience then building to anger. Then he would have turned around and taken her back to his place till he heard from me.
That's what bothers me about the whole "breaking in" deal with KS. We know he wasn't the most easy-going guy and I can't see him being concerned about KS, unless he already knew what had happened and was just faking the concern.
ETA: This comment should probably be on the KS thread!
DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 12:02 PM
Notice his so called concern for his children and saying that they are stuck in the house. Well, he has said the older 2 go to school everyday. He leaves on his bike everyday to just ride he says. Why doesn't he have his brother cme over and take the kids out for a drive to get the little ones out of the house? Or why hasn't he called the small children's friends parents and asked if other children could come to play or his kids might go there to play? He doesn't seem to be knocking himself out taking care of the younger too or even looking for ways to get them out with their little friends and family. In one interview he said they did go to a party this weekend and that was good for the little ones. Well, they could have been visisting other children everyday if Drew took the time to arrange that.
I know the reporters have been very respectful of not taking pics of the older two children as they leave for school in the morning. I think friends of the family would be more then happy to entertain the two little ones..especially Stacy's sister..so what's the problem Drew..is it just you don't know how to take care of the kids so they can live a somewhat normal life until Mommy's vacation has ended?
Camper
11-21-2007, 12:16 PM
Help me out here with my thinking please,
I have forgotten the date of death for KS, or I could have done the math on my thought.
IF IF DP was bringing the children back to KS after his weekend with them, were the children old enough to have had the number combination to the lock or a key of their own?? So access might have been possible to go inside and see IF IF there might have been a note or something?
Did KS have a cell phone back then OR did DP have a cell phone?
Just a hair brained thought perhaps.
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DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 12:18 PM
DP talked about the boob job, braces, tummy tuck - all things that Stacy allegedly wanted - on one of the tv talk shows. Someone who personally knows DP and Stacy had told me about the boob job the first day she went missing - among other things - mostly about how he wanted a trophy wife etc.
Bigfoot, has your friend made any other insights into Stacy and Drew's relationship? I certainly agree with the trophy wife comment..I would even believe Drew incouraged the tummy tuck and boob job...and told everyone so that they could see that he could afford a trophy wife.
Was this person more a friend of Drew's or Stacy..I know you said they knew them both..but in a marriage friends usually come in along with one or the other of the spouses.
maureeng
11-21-2007, 12:24 PM
Hi everyone,
Thank you for the welcome.
It's okay with me if someone wants to re-post it on a different thread. I wasn't sure where to post it. I kept the info about this case because it is so bizarre and tragic. I hope it doesn't grow cold.
There is too much here that is suspect. Unfortunately, the forensics and timeline evidence in Kathleen Savio's case are gone and there is not yet any evidence that Stacy is dead or alive.
When you read the articles, you can see the patterns of DP's coldness, confidence, oddness, abusive behavior towards women, and a police department that turned a blind eye. Warning signs were everywhere. I have to search for some of the comments by Cassandra Cales for the specifics on Stacy's timeline and the article in which DP is said to not be an attentive father who let wife no. 2 take his children to their games. I think if this were not America, we could skip the trial and go right to sentencing.
Here are some new articles:
Betty Morphey defends son
http://www.suntimes.com/news/658854,CST-NWS-drew20.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/658854,CST-NWS-drew20.article)
Chief believes DP violated the law and takes his case further
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/660364,4_1_JO21_PETERSON_S1.article (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/660364,4_1_JO21_PETERSON_S1.article)
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4993903&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1 (http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4993903&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1)
John Walsh statement about DP going to airport
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/john-walsh-on-drew-peterson/1874998547 (http://video.aol.com/video-detail/john-walsh-on-drew-peterson/1874998547)
Another DP girlfriend who was harassed.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/660449,CST-NWS-boling21.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/660449,CST-NWS-boling21.article)
Bigfoot
11-21-2007, 12:36 PM
Delta Dawn, my friend is in LE in a neighboring community and while he is not friends per se with DP, has been to many social functions with DP (and a couple of his wives) and has worked with him on police business, both having been in LE for many, many years and he has a good idea of DP's need for control and power. My friend just shakes his head at all the stuff going on and as most of the fellow cops agree, he's giving them ALL a bad name. Not all cops are cheats, etc. Yes, a lot of them are but not all! He's known for years what kind of guy DP is so he really tried to not have much to do with him.
DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 12:55 PM
Bigfoot your friend in LE is very smart to not hang out with DrewP. I think that long ago when he was released from his duties due to the drug deals and outing another uncover person's name that he was reinstated because they had just started a review committe that backed up the police. I cannot think of what name they gave it...it was some branch of the police force that they had never had prior to this. Makes me wonder if the mayor started that to help cover his cop friends who were into illegal activities.
For more on Mayor Claar try this link
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2007/BolingbrookaCest-Moi/
He's quite an interesting character..cussing and throwing magazines during an interview..it's a two page interview someone else posted earlier on but it really shows what type of person this Mayor Claar is and how manipulative he can be/
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 01:03 PM
It was called something like the fire and police board. They did fire Drew. But a special prosecutor for the states attorney's office testified that there wasn't enough evidence to begin with and the judge overuled the boards decision giving Drew his job back. The states attorney's office gave Drew alot of free rides, IMO.
Bigfoot
11-21-2007, 01:12 PM
After reading about Mayor Claar, I can certainly understand why he over-ruled the Police Chief (because he could). My gosh is this the only state in the US that has so much corruption, or are they all like this? Is it a power trip? As Jane Q. Public, I just don't understand it.
Camper
11-21-2007, 01:20 PM
A person just has to wonder about the enormous drug traffic in America. President of Mexico said a couple of weeks ago, when we complained about the drug traffic, that "People have to be using the drugs, or there would be no trafficking. Something to that affect anyhow.
So wondering about who is using drugs that might be sitting in HIGH office.
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SuziQ
11-21-2007, 01:28 PM
Go to the below link and under fox news video, you will find a video titled:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
Stacy Peterson's stepsisters respond to Drew Peterson's decision to stay in the limelight while wife remains missing (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/#)
Trino
11-21-2007, 01:34 PM
Go see American Gangster (Denzel Washington). It's based on a true story about Frank Lucas, and if you read NY Magazine's articles from an interview with Lucas around 6 years ago, you'll find most of the movie is not only true, it doesn't tell enough of what actually went on, like paying off a general to smuggle drugs aboard Kissinger's plane. And, in the 1970's! Lucas was profiting a million dollars a day. 52 of 70 of NY's finest were indicted. Incredible!
Can you imagine what the drug trade in the US is today? No wonder cops go bad with the money that can be made from the drug trade.
Jaded
11-21-2007, 01:49 PM
I really think Drew thought someone else would find Kitty. When he had to return the boys, time ran out and he had to switch to the he's concerned and couldn't get ahold of her and needs to return the boys script.
That seems very plausible. Were the kids with him when he went there? Do we know?
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 01:55 PM
Go to the below link and under fox news video, you will find a video titled:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/
Stacy Peterson's stepsisters respond to Drew Peterson's decision to stay in the limelight while wife remains missing (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/#)
Paraphrasing some of what was said for those stuck at work today. :D
Per Stacy's stepsisters:
Stacy had a new cell phone because she was tired of Drew tracking her calls. Marriage counseling was not going well.
Drew had thrown Stacy down the stairs. In one incident, a family member took the kids out of the house because Drew had thrown Stacy against the wall.
Stacy never talked about having a boyfriend or romantic interest. To Drew any male was a romantic interest for Stacy. Even male family members.
When Drew gave one of the stepsisters, Tina's ashes, he said "When Stacy comes back you fight her for them". The stepsister asked, "Is Stacy coming back?" He said, "Oh yeah, she's coming back."
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 01:56 PM
That seems very plausible. Were the kids with him when he went there? Do we know?
They were not with him.
Jaded
11-21-2007, 02:21 PM
They were not with him.
Didn't he say he was dropping the children off? I thought I read earlier that she had a restraining order against him, so what was he doing at her home? This just does not add up, imo.
mysteriew
11-21-2007, 02:44 PM
Drew Peterson gave her an engagement ring.
Together, they picked out a china pattern.
snip~"He said I need somebody to love or care for," Piry said. "He never said I want you or I need you."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/660449,CST-NWS-boling21.article
itsreenw
11-21-2007, 02:55 PM
That seems very plausible. Were the kids with him when he went there? Do we know? Well, he's told a couple different stories.
First he was taking the kids back, in the other version, he hadn't talked to KP in a couple days so he got worried. Now ponder this...he was so concerned about his EX wife after not hearing from her for 2 days that he basically breaks in her house to make sure she's ok.
Now Stacy, who is STILL his wife has been missing for three weeks and he hasn't looked for her at all?? Heck, according to Rick Mims, they even went looking for Stacy's mom.
And...DP was on duty at the time they went to KP's house so he was taking care of personal business on the clock. I still think he and the neighbor should be charged with breaking and entering. DP had no right to have a locksmith open KP's door.
mysteriew
11-21-2007, 03:11 PM
Greta transcript
Stacy Peterson's Stepsisters Share Details of 'Abusive' Marriage
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312431,00.html
Tom'sGirl
11-21-2007, 03:15 PM
I was thinking that possibly Rossetto owned a car repair service or something like that. Remember the social service worker that came forward in the beginning talking about Stacy having a fender bender in a parking lot with him? He said she seemed very afraid of Drew and wanted him to settle this outside insurance co and she would pay.
I thought maybe Rossetto was the person who did the repairs for them, and she knew him previously through his bother. Police have said that he was not a boyfriend, etc.
Think that may be close Delta. I mentioned in a post his hand in the doorway photo looked as if he worked with his hands.
Bigfoot
11-21-2007, 03:52 PM
Great post (the Piry article) Mysteriew. I hadn't seen that. I'm sure there are many more women that he has hit on and/or dated. I only wish they'd talk about it. More anti-DP to add to the case.
Leila
11-21-2007, 04:03 PM
As far as Stacy's journal goes I wonder two things: Was it an online journal, if so the police have probably found it and two if it was on paper Drew probably found it and it went with Stacy when he disposed of the body.
I seem to remember that there was the first search warrant executed and then the police went back with a second search warrant. In the second search, someone on scene said something about finding "it", but didn't elaborate on what "it" was. I remember speculation about what it was that the police went back to find. It would make sense that something the police found during the first search led them to go back to find something referred to as a result of the first search, or that someone - maybe one of Stacy's family members - remembered something and that's what the police went back to find.
Leila
11-21-2007, 04:12 PM
I find it quite telling he would say such things. My first thought was...the reason she felt those things...are because they were true, but isn't it curious HE would mention them at all?!
He probably did steal things and plant bugs in her home. Drew isn't the type to just "let go" of any relationship and lose the control he has over the other person. He will make sure he stays in their life (as he does popping up in the life of wife #2 still) and keeps their level of fear going.
This is the very top reason his story about Stacy makes absolutely NO sense. He would NEVER allow a woman to "dis" him like that and just let her go away with no consequences of her actions. He is Judge, Jury, and Executioner in every relationship.
I know someone who is very much like Drew Peterson. In this case, a couple were divorced 10 years ago. The wife filed for divorce from her controlling and abusive husband. From the moment she moved out of their home, he followed her, left nasty messages on her cell phone and home answering machine, and was the immediate suspect when the tires on her car were slashed on two separate occasions. The ex-husband ended up being arrested for felony stalking and spent 9 months in jail. Three years later the ex-husband had a girlfriend, who broke off with him. He did the same thing - followed her, left nasty messages on her cell phone and home answering machine, and did $800 worth of damage to her car. He was arrested for that and spent 4 months in jail. Last December he left threatening messages on his ex-wife's cell phone again, and has been charged with making terrorist threats. He's going through the court system and his ex-wife has been told that this time he's facing 3 years in state prison.
Masterj
11-21-2007, 04:13 PM
Go see American Gangster (Denzel Washington). It's based on a true story about Frank Lucas, and if you read NY Magazine's articles from an interview with Lucas around 6 years ago, you'll find most of the movie is not only true, it doesn't tell enough of what actually went on, like paying off a general to smuggle drugs aboard Kissinger's plane. And, in the 1970's! Lucas was profiting a million dollars a day. 52 of 70 of NY's finest were indicted. Incredible!
Can you imagine what the drug trade in the US is today? No wonder cops go bad with the money that can be made from the drug trade.
Especially considering the starting salary for a NY city cop is $25,100!
Leila
11-21-2007, 04:35 PM
The fact he insisted Steve go in WITH one of Kathleen's best friends makes it even more suspicious.
If he was there to return the children...where were they? He would not have suspected really there was anything wrong that he couldn't reach her other than she wasn't home since it wasn't her weekend with the kids...so why go to all the trouble of getting a locksmith, etc. Did she keep her car in the garage? I think so since she accused him once of changing the code to the opener. He couldn't see if she was home or not! He had no reason to "suspect" something was so very wrong...unless he already knew beforehand.
DP said he had been trying to reach Kathleen all weekend and there was no answer. The logical thing to do in that situation would have been to call her best friend/neighbor and ask her if she had seen Kathleen. Instead, he goes over there and makes a big show of calling a locksmith and having her best friend and another neighbor, Steve Carcerano present. He and Kathleen were divorced and he had no authority to do that. Have we ever learned for certain that Steve is a locksmith? If he is, then that's all the more suspicious.
Leila
11-21-2007, 04:39 PM
Hi everyone,
Thank you for the welcome.
It's okay with me if someone wants to re-post it on a different thread. I wasn't sure where to post it. I kept the info about this case because it is so bizarre and tragic. I hope it doesn't grow cold.
There is too much here that is suspect. Unfortunately, the forensics and timeline evidence in Kathleen Savio's case are gone and there is not yet any evidence that Stacy is dead or alive.
When you read the articles, you can see the patterns of DP's coldness, confidence, oddness, abusive behavior towards women, and a police department that turned a blind eye. Warning signs were everywhere. I have to search for some of the comments by Cassandra Cales for the specifics on Stacy's timeline and the article in which DP is said to not be an attentive father who let wife no. 2 take his children to their games. I think if this were not America, we could skip the trial and go right to sentencing.
Here are some new articles:
Betty Morphey defends son
http://www.suntimes.com/news/658854,CST-NWS-drew20.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/658854,CST-NWS-drew20.article)
Chief believes DP violated the law and takes his case further
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/660364,4_1_JO21_PETERSON_S1.article (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/660364,4_1_JO21_PETERSON_S1.article)
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4993903&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1 (http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4993903&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1)
John Walsh statement about DP going to airport
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/john-walsh-on-drew-peterson/1874998547 (http://video.aol.com/video-detail/john-walsh-on-drew-peterson/1874998547)
Another DP girlfriend who was harassed.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/660449,CST-NWS-boling21.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/660449,CST-NWS-boling21.article)
Hi Maureeng and welcome to Websleuths! Your links are very helpful and your timeline is very well done!
mysteriew
11-21-2007, 04:58 PM
DP said he had been trying to reach Kathleen all weekend and there was no answer. The logical thing to do in that situation would have been to call her best friend/neighbor and ask her if she had seen Kathleen. Instead, he goes over there and makes a big show of calling a locksmith and having her best friend and another neighbor, Steve Carcerano present. He and Kathleen were divorced and he had no authority to do that. Have we ever learned for certain that Steve is a locksmith? If he is, then that's all the more suspicious.
Wouldn't you think that before entering the home that an ex might get hold of a relative? To ask them to go to the home or to get permission to enter or something? I mean he 'says' she was accusing him of things he alleges he didn't do. Wouldn't he be fearful of her filing charges for unlawful entry against him and whoever participated if she was alive? Why he could have gotten criminal charges filed against his good buddy Steve by asking him to enter. As a police officer, I am sure he knew that. And also as an officer, I am sure he knew to contact the next of kin in any emergency. Also, police officers are taught that they cannot enter a home without a warrant unless they see or hear signs of foul play.
Leila
11-21-2007, 05:03 PM
Wouldn't you think that before entering the home that an ex might get hold of a relative? To ask them to go to the home or to get permission to enter or something? I mean he 'says' she was accusing him of things. Wouldn't he be fearful of her filing charges for unlawful entry against him and whoever participated if she was alive? Why he could have gotten criminal charges filed against his good buddy Steve by asking him to enter. As a police officer, I am sure he knew that. And also as an officer, I am sure he knew to contact the next of kin in any emergency.
Excellent point mysteriew............yes, Kathleen's family lives right there in Bolingbrook, and it would have been the most logical to have called them with his concerns. Rather than two neighbors, he should have called Kathleens father, sister, or brother. It's very possible that one of those relatives would have had a key to Kathleen's house too, as is often the case.
The more you think about it, the more suspicious DP becomes in how he handled that situation. His version doesn't make a lot of sense.
Seahorseladydi
11-21-2007, 05:58 PM
I am just reading this case..... a few ?'s I am sure they have been gone over but there are hundreds of posts to catch up on.......
Drew was married 4 times?
the 3rd wife drowned in the bathtub (so he says)?
The 4th wife (Stacy) is now missing?
what happened to the 1st and 2nd wives?
I also see that Stacy's mom has been missing for years too?
this guy is a sgt..... he knows what he is doing! grrrrrr......
Leila
11-21-2007, 06:58 PM
I am just reading this case..... a few ?'s I am sure they have been gone over but there are hundreds of posts to catch up on.......
Drew was married 4 times?
the 3rd wife drowned in the bathtub (so he says)?
The 4th wife (Stacy) is now missing?
what happened to the 1st and 2nd wives?
I also see that Stacy's mom has been missing for years too?
this guy is a sgt..... he knows what he is doing! grrrrrr......
The first wife and DP were divorced about 1981-1982, and although the first wife has stated there was no abuse in the marriage, DP was having an affair.
The second wife also divorced DP, stating that he was having an affair, but she also states that he was abusive to her, both physical and mental abuse. The stated that he told her that he could kill her and make it look like an accident. She has spoken out on this. She had been previously married before she married DP and came into the marriage with an 8-year-old daughter, Lisa, who was also abused by DP. She said he used to punish her by whipping her with a belt. That marriage lasted from 1982-1992.
Stacy's mother disappeared in 1999. She had lost a small child in a house fire in 1982 and lost an infant to SIDS in 1987. She grieved the loss of those two children and was evidently unstable. She and Stacy's father, Anthony Cales, divorced in the early 1990's, and the children of their marriage lived with their father and his second wife. She was in the habit sometimes disappearing for a few weeks at a time, but always came back. In 1999, she left with her purse and a bible, saying she was going to church and disappeared.
Edited to add: There were two children from the first marriage - Steve and Eric; no children from the second marriage; 2 children from the third marriage - Tom and Kristopher; 2 children from the fourth marriage - Anthony and Lacy.
Chi Town Legal Freak
11-21-2007, 07:32 PM
New Sun-Times article regarding Grand jury testimony of Scott Rossetto.
This could be more bad news for DP. If he says she left for another man, this would seem to be the man if they were exchanging text messages.
Well, he is obviously still here so who is the mystery man, Drew? He kept tabs on her enough to know she was at Denny's with this guy, but he has no idea who the other guy she left with is? :hand:
http://www.suntimes.com/index.html
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 07:42 PM
November 21st, 2007 3:38 PM Eastern
Update….. Sgt. Peterson (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/21/update-sgt-peterson-2/)
by Greta Van Susteren
Sgt. Drew Peterson’s lawyer - Joel Brodsky - will be ON THE RECORD tonight at 10pm. Picture of Brodsky is below: (do you have a question for him? post here….)
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And right now Sharon Bychowski is being questioned by the Illinois State Police regarding “phone calls” — we are awaiting more information on what that means….so check back.
[URL]http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/21/update-sgt-peterson-2/ (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/21/update-sgt-peterson-2/2158/)
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 07:44 PM
Go to the below link and click on the blue audiowave box to listen:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/21/gretacast-eavesdrop-on-this-conversation-in-sgt-peterson-case/
by Greta Van Susteren
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Here is your chance….eavesdrop on the conversation I just had with OTR’s producer Steph Watts …Steph is in Bolingbrook, Illinois:
[URL="http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/02/pod-casting-the-gretacast//"] (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/09/friday-gretacast-mark-fuhrman-getting-2am-calls-stacys-sisters-ashes-with-sgt-peterson/1919/)
To eavesdrop on the phone call (and to get the latest) click on the blue box:
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 07:50 PM
New Sun-Times article regarding Grand jury testimony of Scott Rossetto.
This could be more bad news for DP. If he says she left for another man, this would seem to be the man if they were exchanging text messages.
Well, he is obviously still here so who is the mystery man, Drew? He kept tabs on her enough to know she was at Denny's with this guy, but he has no idea who the other guy she left with is? :hand:
http://www.suntimes.com/index.html
He asked me how I’d react if my wife was with another man,” Rossetto said.
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Drew, the question is how did you react?
Tom'sGirl
11-21-2007, 08:03 PM
New Sun-Times article regarding Grand jury testimony of Scott Rossetto.
This could be more bad news for DP. If he says she left for another man, this would seem to be the man if they were exchanging text messages.
Well, he is obviously still here so who is the mystery man, Drew? He kept tabs on her enough to know she was at Denny's with this guy, but he has no idea who the other guy she left with is? :hand:
http://www.suntimes.com/index.html
As per link it says
Rossetto, 35, told the Herald News last week that Stacy reached out to him about three weeks before she disappeared. He initially said he never met with her, but changed his story this afternoon after testifying before a Will County grand jury looking into the case.
He also had said
Rossetto has said he only knew Stacy because his twin brother and a friend had dated Stacy years ago — before she married Peterson. Rossetto said he had not heard from Stacy Peterson in years until she called him last month.
So how old was Stacy at the time his brother who is 8 years older dated her?
DeltaDawn
11-21-2007, 09:01 PM
Wow!! I was reallywrong about Rossetto being the owner of a car repair service..he's a nurse. I beleive I read previously that Stacey dated his brother after she broke up her high school boyfriend..so that relationship would have been around the time Drew first met her.
Also it appears that the GJ is not just looking at Kathleen's death, but Stacy's disappearance...which I thought but was confused because that was never really stated until now. It just seemed from the people they were questioning they were going in two seperate directions for two different cases..but originally I thought they were just looking into Kathleen's death. I hope I have that info correct now.
SeriouslySearching
11-21-2007, 09:06 PM
Hmmmm...well...I guess him being a nurse isn't as exciting as him being in the car repair biz!
One reason she could be in touch with him is because she was in school to become a nurse, Yes? I wonder if they have had contact while in school?
SeriouslySearching
11-21-2007, 09:11 PM
I know someone who is very much like Drew Peterson. In this case, a couple were divorced 10 years ago. The wife filed for divorce from her controlling and abusive husband. From the moment she moved out of their home, he followed her, left nasty messages on her cell phone and home answering machine, and was the immediate suspect when the tires on her car were slashed on two separate occasions. The ex-husband ended up being arrested for felony stalking and spent 9 months in jail. Three years later the ex-husband had a girlfriend, who broke off with him. He did the same thing - followed her, left nasty messages on her cell phone and home answering machine, and did $800 worth of damage to her car. He was arrested for that and spent 4 months in jail. Last December he left threatening messages on his ex-wife's cell phone again, and has been charged with making terrorist threats. He's going through the court system and his ex-wife has been told that this time he's facing 3 years in state prison.Which in my book is ridiculous he was even OUT of jail the first time after exhibiting such behavior. Obsessive thinking and stalking are signs of later more violent abuse. To lock these men away without therapy and for only a short term stint does nothing to change their thinking process. They are probably more dangerous when they come out of jail after a few months than before they went in. It gives them time for the anger to build and them to plan revenge.
Stalking laws have changed, but penalties need to be stiffer and therapies need to be court ordered.
SuziQ
11-21-2007, 09:16 PM
On Tuesday, the Tribune learned that Harvey police officer Marcus Patt