View Full Version : 9 day old infant raped and killed
believe09
11-26-2007, 09:34 PM
Only read this if you are feeling strong:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14696713/detail.html
Don't waste the states money please and just assassinate the person responsible. Whether or not the rapist is the father of the baby, he needs to be strung up as well...beating Mom while they are on the way to the hospital??!!
Sedona
11-26-2007, 09:40 PM
What a sick and twisted world we live in. I'm sure there is a special place in hell for sickos like that. :mad:
Reannan
11-26-2007, 09:44 PM
The grandparents were in the car on the way to the hospital when this "alleged" POS beat the mother - who was holding the baby with blood coming from the mouth, nose and rectum? WTF? The world has gone insane.
eleven
11-26-2007, 09:49 PM
I would kill this SOB perp with my bare hands!:banghead: :banghead:
The baby's name is...I mean, WAS...Neveah. That is Heaven spelled backwards. :(
dingo
11-26-2007, 09:50 PM
:( :( :( There is only one cure for these subhumans.
j2mirish
11-26-2007, 09:55 PM
9 days old--- no words :mad:
zadari
11-26-2007, 09:55 PM
these f** a**holes that do this to babies or anyone should have thier dicks castrated off .. or be killed immediately no ifs ands or buts they should have NO rights to a fair trial .. they dont give those poor babys a chance i mean WTF ! how can someone do this .. ? my husband is just sicked by this and really pissed..
philamena
11-26-2007, 09:55 PM
My God, the world has gone insane.
Shoot the bastard. He deserves no trial, no life.
God bless this precious babie's soul. :(
Reannan
11-26-2007, 09:58 PM
How does the "thought" ever even enter the mind of someone? Where do they get the "idea" to rape their 9 DAY OLD INFANT???? I truly do NOT understand. I wish I could because then, maybe I could put it to rest. Instead, I am tormented by the "why" of this case, and the "how" of stopping it from happening again. I feel useless and helpless. :doh:
2sisters
11-26-2007, 10:03 PM
I don't plan on reading the article, reading the posts and the headline are enough, but is the baby alive or dead?
ETA, I now see it says killed. Nevermind, I am sick now.
philamena
11-26-2007, 10:10 PM
I don't plan on reading the article, reading the posts and the headline are enough, but is the baby alive or dead?
ETA, I now see it says killed. Nevermind, I am sick now.
2sisters,
Don't read the article. You will only feel sicker. :(
pooky169
11-26-2007, 10:21 PM
9 days old--- no words :mad:
No words here either just alot of anger and sadness for that poor baby!!!!!!:furious:
southcitymom
11-26-2007, 10:23 PM
....That is Heaven spelled backwards.....
Surely she is back there now and based on what we know of her short life, that's a better place for her to be. Prayers for this family.
imthemom
11-26-2007, 10:36 PM
This is beyond belief and I have to say what the heck is wrong with Detroit. There has been a lot of fatal child abuse cases coming from there lately.
mum33004
11-26-2007, 11:25 PM
WTF???? I want 10 minutes with this POS.
SICK SICK SICK
I don't understand how in the world can anybody hurt a baby or a child.
kahskye
11-26-2007, 11:43 PM
I have no words to describe how sick to my stomach I feel.
MeoW333
11-26-2007, 11:55 PM
Sickening.. they need to let these POS losers looses in a wooded area then send some seals in for sniper training.
Filly
11-27-2007, 01:02 AM
How do we as human beings even begin to grasp something like this? I'm mad I have insomnia and then I see this and every problem in life I ever had vanished. Will reporting this in the media make us anymore numb and physically sick? As a society I mean how do we even comprehend this can happen? I googled the news. Here's a link and the grandmom is the paternal grandmom and this couple lives in her home. I don't know what's more sickening. How she says she don't know what goes on in her home or what these people did to this brand new baby?http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071126/METRO01/711260343/1410/METRO01
kline
11-27-2007, 06:19 AM
Please.
Ten minutes with a cattle prod and a pair of pliers.
This is about the third thread like this Ive read.Its making me cranky.
Tristan
11-27-2007, 06:26 AM
THis is beyond my comprehension.
What I would do to this psycho if I had 10 minutes alone with him.
SICK!!!!!
Taximom
11-27-2007, 06:34 AM
9 days old. I don't want to read the article, but if it's true he should get the death penalty.
hockeymom
11-27-2007, 08:47 AM
This is just sickening. I think there should be a special catagory in our justice system for crimes against children.Forget the different degrees of murder,add another catagory,murder/torture of children and preferably give them the death penalty,but if the state doesn't have it,life with no chance of parole.
I hope someone gets this guy before he pleads(that shouldn't be allowed either). It would be justifiable homicide.
believe09
11-27-2007, 09:11 AM
This is just sickening. I think there should be a special catagory in our justice system for crimes against children.Forget the different degrees of murder,add another catagory,murder/torture of children and preferably give them the death penalty,but if the state doesn't have it,life with no chance of parole.
I hope someone gets this guy before he pleads(that shouldn't be allowed either). It would be justifiable homicide.
Hockeymom, you and I are on the same wavelength-why isn't there some kind of federal statute that comes into play with this kind of abuse of children? Let's see, killing a police officer, carjacking and drugs are elevated to federal offenses-this gives more punch to sentencing...why isn't there some kind of law that protects our children? If the current administration wants to have a legacy that goes beyond the nonsense in Iraq, they should sponsor a law ASAP that makes injury to a child a Federal Offense, and murder of a child a Capitol Offense. We have to start placing a value on these precious lives!!!!!!
GlitchWizard
11-27-2007, 09:22 AM
9 days old. I don't want to read the article, but if it's true he should get the death penalty.
What if he beat the mom in the car on the way to the hospital because he believed SHE hurt the baby?
He may not be guilty. I'd beat the Mom, too, if she brought me my baby all covered in blood and pretended she didn't know what happened.
Okay let him take the lie dector but lets not spend any more time on this looser. He needs to be thrown in the cell with Buba right away!!!
2sisters
11-27-2007, 09:33 AM
2sisters,
Don't read the article. You will only feel sicker. :(
Oh I won't. I can't bring myself to.
You know what the sad thing is, this baby is better off dead and in heaven, can you imagine the life she would have had if she had lived and grew up in this home. It owuld have been trrifying I am sure.
Did the mother even do anything to help this baby or stop him from hurting her?
believe09
11-27-2007, 09:34 AM
What if he beat the mom in the car on the way to the hospital because he believed SHE hurt the baby?
He may not be guilty. I'd beat the Mom, too, if she brought me my baby all covered in blood and pretended she didn't know what happened.
No friend, I bet you would call 911 and get police and an ambulance right away instead of wasting time beating people-these folks rounded up their relatives and drove to the hospital...granted there is no proof he raped the child, but beating the crap out of Mom on the way to the hospital is a sign that somethin' just ain't right.
GlitchWizard
11-27-2007, 09:55 AM
No friend, I bet you would call 911 and get police and an ambulance right away instead of wasting time beating people-these folks rounded up their relatives and drove to the hospital...granted there is no proof he raped the child, but beating the crap out of Mom on the way to the hospital is a sign that somethin' just ain't right.
That may well be the case. I was thinking of something I heard a long time ago from the military policeman I was seeing. He said they went to a domestic and a woman was beat within an inch of her life. It was 100% obvious the man did it and they were arresting him, but he was freaking out and nuts. The smell was horrible and another office went to the kitchen and found the husband had come home to the woman baking his child in the oven as if the baby were a roast.
Certainly makes the situation change, at least in my eyes.
Things aren't always as they seem on the surface. That's all I'm thinking. I'm not saying I believe he didn't do it. I'm saying I want more information.
I would say I hope you are right - but it doesn't matter. The child is dead either way. :-(
Taximom
11-27-2007, 10:16 AM
What if he beat the mom in the car on the way to the hospital because he believed SHE hurt the baby?
He may not be guilty. I'd beat the Mom, too, if she brought me my baby all covered in blood and pretended she didn't know what happened.
Anymore around here, you never know. That's why I wrote "if it's true".
Whoever did this deserves the death penalty. If someone let it happen while they watched, they deserve the death penalty too.
Amraann
11-27-2007, 10:33 AM
What if he beat the mom in the car on the way to the hospital because he believed SHE hurt the baby?
He may not be guilty. I'd beat the Mom, too, if she brought me my baby all covered in blood and pretended she didn't know what happened.
That is a good point Glitch but from the article it seems the police think it was the "father".
Besides that why would the grandparents sit in the car and let their son beat the girl? IMO that indicates they know what he is capable of an this was not the first time he had hit her.
Furthermore if his parents were able to drive with him to the hospital and he really thought the mother did something then why would he let her go along and hold the baby if she was the one who he believed injured her?
Vegas Bride
11-27-2007, 10:41 AM
I'd have to find out more details before knowing who is to blame for this. It doesn't make sense that the woman was asleep and then finds the baby there with her and bleeding, that baby would have been screaming when the assault was being done. How many other people were in the house? The story mentions a grandmother and a grandfather in the car with them so I'm assuming the grandfather was in the house also. If the father thought somehow she was responsible I could understand him snapping and attacking her, if I had a baby and something terrible was done I would attack also. I'm not saying it was right that he beat her, only that I could understand how someone could react like that. Whoever is responsible needs to be put down just like you would with a mad dog IMO.
My prayers go out for this innocent baby and also the people who will be doing what they can to find justice for her.
VB
Soonerbabie
11-27-2007, 10:51 AM
I watched the news video.. of the man in court. The way he walked and his whole demeaner was just sickening. The man has no remorse, and was acting cocky.
:furious:
believe09
11-27-2007, 10:51 AM
I'd have to find out more details before knowing who is to blame for this. It doesn't make sense that the woman was asleep and then finds the baby there with her and bleeding, that baby would have been screaming when the assault was being done. How many other people were in the house? The story mentions a grandmother and a grandfather in the car with them so I'm assuming the grandfather was in the house also. If the father thought somehow she was responsible I could understand him snapping and attacking her, if I had a baby and something terrible was done I would attack also. I'm not saying it was right that he beat her, only that I could understand how someone could react like that. Whoever is responsible needs to be put down just like you would with a mad dog IMO.
My prayers go out for this innocent baby and also the people who will be doing what they can to find justice for her.
VB
I am reserving my judgment, so to speak, regarding who initiated the assault. My opinion, however, is that baby couldn't scream because mouth and/or nose was covered-hence the bloody nose. I am certain that there was a lot of internal bleeding as well-and I absolutely can envision Mom waking up with her baby on her chest bloody and beaten because there are all kinds of cruel people in this world and domestic violence is about control- I have known intimately what it is like to be with someone who believes they have the power to take from you anything they want and to destroy the things that you love.
In any case, it should be easy enough to figure out how that baby suffered from rectal tearing-and I cannot write what I truly think the perp should suffer.
believe09
11-27-2007, 11:00 AM
Here is an updated link-
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071127/METRO01/711270325/1410/METRO01
Dad says he is not guilty and he allegedly slapped Mom's face as a warning if anything happened to the baby...very strange. What makes this even worse was that this baby was a preemie-by rights she should not have even been born, but should have been in the safety of her mother's womb. She was 3 weeks early...it makes this even more chilling. Dad has a history of domestic violence...I wonder why the baby came early? It will be amazing to see how this unfolds.
believe09
12-03-2007, 12:23 PM
Oh boy-news reports indicate that police returned to the house to recover both a curling iron and a straightening iron. And that new charges would be filed against the dad today or tomorrow. There will be a news conference. Help me...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14696713/detail.html
Reannan
12-03-2007, 12:59 PM
I am not sure if this is the news conference or not....
"Added to that charge Monday afternoon will be murder, sexual assault and criminal sexual conduct against his infant.
The baby, Neveah Richardson, had died from massive anal intrusion and internal bleeding, Worthy said in a news conference"
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14759394/detail.html
I didn't see the reference to the curling iron and straightening iron....that is very bothersome. This story is one that you have to steal yourself before you read the next story or posting. :furious:
believe09
12-03-2007, 04:36 PM
I am not sure if this is the news conference or not....
"Added to that charge Monday afternoon will be murder, sexual assault and criminal sexual conduct against his infant.
The baby, Neveah Richardson, had died from massive anal intrusion and internal bleeding, Worthy said in a news conference"
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14759394/detail.html
I didn't see the reference to the curling iron and straightening iron....that is very bothersome. This story is one that you have to steal yourself before you read the next story or posting. :furious:
You see, I just knew the mothers story rang true. You have to know someone who thinks like that-who might tear apart an innocent child and then lay the child on her mother's chest...and beat the woman repeatedly on the way to the hospital making some believe that mom was responsible. He was giving the mother an underlying message, which was that if the child died from his assault, he would hold the mother responsible and that would give him an excuse to give her a true a** whuppin. He is teflon you see; nothing is his fault. Maybe Neveah pooped on him, was crying, who knows. He was drunk, high or both-end result. All I can believe is because he is little and a punk, he is going to be used like TP in prison....I hope he get his ducks in a row between he and God before he is released into the GP.
Paladin
12-03-2007, 04:43 PM
That may well be the case. I was thinking of something I heard a long time ago from the military policeman I was seeing. He said they went to a domestic and a woman was beat within an inch of her life. It was 100% obvious the man did it and they were arresting him, but he was freaking out and nuts. The smell was horrible and another office went to the kitchen and found the husband had come home to the woman baking his child in the oven as if the baby were a roast.
Certainly makes the situation change, at least in my eyes.
Things aren't always as they seem on the surface. That's all I'm thinking. I'm not saying I believe he didn't do it. I'm saying I want more information.
I would say I hope you are right - but it doesn't matter. The child is dead either way. :-(
My God what a horrible story.
Beffie
12-03-2007, 05:00 PM
A local story about it.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/120207/loc_20071202003.shtml
concernedperson
12-03-2007, 05:29 PM
A local story about it.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/120207/loc_20071202003.shtml
The father is an animal. He beat up his girlfriend before and put his stepfather in a coma for a week. He mutilated and murdered his own infant daughter. He has no right to life among even prisoners.
Amraann
12-03-2007, 05:36 PM
The father is an animal. He beat up his girlfriend before and put his stepfather in a coma for a week. He mutilated and murdered his own infant daughter. He has no right to life among even prisoners.
Yet they all still kept him around?? This sooo could have been prevented.
concernedperson
12-03-2007, 05:40 PM
Yet they all still kept him around?? This sooo could have been prevented.
I agree. The mom is giving up on him now but it sounds like she practiced a lot denial prior to the murder. I guess she thought he would get better or grow up or something. Very wrong decision not to have him put away sooner.
Maxine
12-03-2007, 05:49 PM
Mom, Adie Green,39, gave him away to an aunt when he was 3. She had very little to do with his life and is no saint.
I'm angry that the judge gave both parents probation after they were charged with cocaine, and Neveahs mom had to have a couple of baggies removed from her very pregnant body in Sept.
I wish Neveah had been removed from their care one second after her first breath.
Mygirlsadie
12-03-2007, 06:18 PM
Oh my God...
Amraann
12-03-2007, 06:21 PM
Mom, Adie Green,39, gave him away to an aunt when he was 3. She had very little to do with his life and is no saint.
I'm angry that the judge gave both parents probation after they were charged with cocaine, and Neveahs mom had to have a couple of baggies removed from her very pregnant body in Sept.
I wish Neveah had been removed from their care one second after her first breath.
It just seemed that so many people failed her.
Reannan
12-03-2007, 08:41 PM
I am totally in support of the death penalty, but I have often asked myself if I would actually be able to pull the switch. I can honestly say that "Yes, I could pull the switch" with whoever murdered this baby in such a horrible, painful manner. With that said, however..... this case is also the reason that I give defense attorneys a shred of respect. From the article http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/120207/loc_20071202003.shtml
I have to say that there is reasonable doubt. This guy is a total scum bag, but then the entire family appears to have baggage. Some of the sticking points for me are these: (bold and italic emphasis added by me) -
"Green (the Grandmother) and her husband were home at the time officers believe the infant was assaulted. Green said they were sleeping until being awakened by loud music being played by her son and his girlfriend."
Does this mean Mom was awake during the assault? This statement in the article:
"During the commute from Lincoln Park to Wyandotte, Richardson allegedly slapped his girlfriend across her face, grabbed her by her hair and threatened her should the baby die."
...this also demands explanation. What if SHE decided she didn't want the child, and decided a great way to get rid of the child was to frame him, was to "violate" the child with the curling iron? Why would HE rape the child with a curling iron? The article indicates he was drunk (and probably high IMO) that morning. Did they get into an argument and she became furious at him? This case demands a LOT of answers from forensics experts. Statistically speaking, it is obvious what has happened. Realistically speaking, I need to see more evidence before I am comfortable "pulling the switch." Am I crazy? I am normally right on-board with all of the rest of you guys, but my hinky meter is alarming right now with this case. :waitasec:
imthemom
12-04-2007, 08:34 AM
I am totally in support of the death penalty, but I have often asked myself if I would actually be able to pull the switch. I can honestly say that "Yes, I could pull the switch" with whoever murdered this baby in such a horrible, painful manner. With that said, however..... this case is also the reason that I give defense attorneys a shred of respect. From the article http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/120207/loc_20071202003.shtml
I have to say that there is reasonable doubt. This guy is a total scum bag, but then the entire family appears to have baggage. Some of the sticking points for me are these: (bold and italic emphasis added by me) -
"Green (the Grandmother) and her husband were home at the time officers believe the infant was assaulted. Green said they were sleeping until being awakened by loud music being played by her son and his girlfriend."
Does this mean Mom was awake during the assault? This statement in the article:
"During the commute from Lincoln Park to Wyandotte, Richardson allegedly slapped his girlfriend across her face, grabbed her by her hair and threatened her should the baby die."
...this also demands explanation. What if SHE decided she didn't want the child, and decided a great way to get rid of the child was to frame him, was to "violate" the child with the curling iron? Why would HE rape the child with a curling iron? The article indicates he was drunk (and probably high IMO) that morning. Did they get into an argument and she became furious at him? This case demands a LOT of answers from forensics experts. Statistically speaking, it is obvious what has happened. Realistically speaking, I need to see more evidence before I am comfortable "pulling the switch." Am I crazy? I am normally right on-board with all of the rest of you guys, but my hinky meter is alarming right now with this case. :waitasec:
No you are not crazy Reannan thats why there are defense attorneys. My aunt is a professor and defense attorney she has done some very high profile cases probono and gotten people off of the detah penality because she does not believe in it. She says everyone has a story and people just aren't born monsters and I have to agree. The mother of this man acts like he just became like this all by himself but I have to say someone like this must have had a horrific childhood himself. As for the loud music being played I asked myself the same question. The mother would have had to have been awake if this is when the assault took place therefore an accomplice or she did it herself. Seems though they were all afraid of this man and that is why they let him stay and never made him leave so I have to say I believe he did it or they both did and she went along with it.
mysteriew
12-04-2007, 09:26 AM
The only question I have is where was the grandfather when this happened? Mom was reportedly asleep, grandma was reportedly asleep, that leaves both men unaccounted for.
believe09
12-04-2007, 09:48 AM
I think Mom slept through the loud music because she also was drunk or high, IMO. I think you all raise good points, but I don't believe she did that to her child. I can't-this is my own personal threshold. The defense attorney is doing a good job of tossing mud to see what sticks-the bottom line is that the perp would absolutely singing like a lark if the mom did it or participated. He is not one to assume responsibility for anything.
dee10134
12-04-2007, 02:16 PM
I'm not so sure HE did this to the baby. I'm beginning to think the mother had something to do with all of this. This is such an inconceivable crime to even think about, but......
I think his reaction in the car was more of a father that was pissed off at his baby's mother for her doing something like this to the baby, than of someone that assaulted and killed his baby.
I saw on a report that when she was very pregnant, they caught Neveah's mother with baggies of cocaine inside of her body that they had to retrieve? Is this right? If so, she doesn't really seem like a mother that really WANTED this child. To put the unborn baby in harm's way by stuffing baggies of coke into your body is NOT the action of a mom that wants her child....
I don't know what to think. This is just sickening!
KansasCutie
12-04-2007, 02:38 PM
I saw on a report that when she was very pregnant, they caught Neveah's mother with baggies of cocaine inside of her body that they had to retrieve? Is this right? If so, she doesn't really seem like a mother that really WANTED this child. To put the unborn baby in harm's way by stuffing baggies of coke into your body is NOT the action of a mom that wants her child....
I don't know what to think. This is just sickening!
wait. what does it mean putting baggies of cocaine inside of her while prego??Like the actual BAG going inside of her by swallowing it or the other way?
Truthful Lies
12-04-2007, 02:57 PM
I don't pray..but my GOD. I'm praying for this little girl.
Maxine
12-04-2007, 06:15 PM
The other way. Witnesses say she allowed the drug dealer to hide the cocaine in her....private area.
believe09
12-04-2007, 06:21 PM
The other way. Witnesses say she allowed the drug dealer to hide the cocaine in her....private area.
I don't deny that she is a druggie and an idiot-I do have a firmly held belief that he would be telling everyone that she did it if he knew or had an inkling that she did. I admire the police for taking the time to sort it out-but I think they got it right.
Maxine
12-04-2007, 06:30 PM
Oh I agree. Her reputation is fairly skanky. I would not be surprised if she was involved, but at Christopher's request.
My mind just can't quite comprehend people like this.
Beffie
12-04-2007, 06:32 PM
Another update from local paper.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/120507/loc_20071205003.shtml
believe09
12-04-2007, 07:00 PM
Another update from local paper.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/120507/loc_20071205003.shtml
OMG, OMG, OMG-you are better off in heaven little angel baby then trying to overcome those injuries.
southcitymom
12-04-2007, 07:24 PM
If, as the article states, it was a finger that tore her rectum, I wonder how they know it was the father's?
KansasCutie
12-04-2007, 07:27 PM
If, as the article states, it was a finger that tore her rectum, I wonder how they know it was the father's?
In a way im glad he didnt use his private part. That would have been even more awful for her...not that it wasnt already awful enough, but still. :(
MsPooh
12-04-2007, 09:08 PM
From the above article:
His mother, Adie Green, has been outspoken against her son. She said he has been in boot camp and drug rehabilitation since dropping out of high school.
She said Richardson has a longstanding alcohol and drug problem, and that he was drunk on the day the alleged sexual assault occurred.
When Green learned the details of how her granddaughter died, she just shook her head. "That's beyond sick," she said, sitting in front of the family's Christmas tree in view of wrapped presents that had been bought for Nevaeh before she was killed.
It's really refreshing to see that his mother isn't defending him...seems to be the case in so many of these cases...
Columbo
12-05-2007, 09:01 PM
I feel like asking "WHY", what could make someone attack a tiny, innocent, sweet little baby? But I guess the answer is "drugs".
believe09
12-05-2007, 09:14 PM
I feel like asking "WHY", what could make someone attack a tiny, innocent, sweet little baby? But I guess the answer is "drugs".
And stone cold inhuman meanness.
Filly
12-05-2007, 09:15 PM
Addie Green the mother of this guy is a real piece of work. Outspoken she is. Meanwhile she's interviewed in front of her Christmas tree that has wrapped present under them for the baby. HELLO??????????? Is it me or are these people that dysfunctional? You got a Christmas tree when your son is charged for sexually assaulting his nine day old baby? How do you do that? Denial? Was your life so F'd up itself that this is just something you get over and celebrate the holidays? Initially this is the woman who said she was mad and tired. Mad and tired! I just don't get it.
southcitymom
12-05-2007, 09:42 PM
Addie Green the mother of this guy is a real piece of work. Outspoken she is. Meanwhile she's interviewed in front of her Christmas tree that has wrapped present under them for the baby. HELLO??????????? Is it me or are these people that dysfunctional? You got a Christmas tree when your son is charged for sexually assaulting his nine day old baby? How do you do that? Denial? Was your life so F'd up itself that this is just something you get over and celebrate the holidays? Initially this is the woman who said she was mad and tired. Mad and tired! I just don't get it.
Well yes, this family is dysfunctional.
But I don't necessarily understand what's bothersome about the Christmas tree. Mine's up - and if one of my grandchildren got killed tomorrow and my child was in jail for the murder, I can well see myself being mad and tired, but I doubt I'd take the tree down.
And I seriously doubt I'd have the wits or heart or energy to toss any presents before the media came to call. Keeping the baby's present may be the psychological equivalent of leaving the room of your child who has died untouched for a period of time, until you're ready.
concernedperson
12-05-2007, 10:15 PM
Addie Green the mother of this guy is a real piece of work. Outspoken she is. Meanwhile she's interviewed in front of her Christmas tree that has wrapped present under them for the baby. HELLO??????????? Is it me or are these people that dysfunctional? You got a Christmas tree when your son is charged for sexually assaulting his nine day old baby? How do you do that? Denial? Was your life so F'd up itself that this is just something you get over and celebrate the holidays? Initially this is the woman who said she was mad and tired. Mad and tired! I just don't get it.I feel like this woman is very dysfunctional and could be a root cause for her son's dysfunction. Her blatant attempts now only accentuate the situation.She didn't kill the baby but she didn't prevent it either.
southcitymom
12-05-2007, 10:28 PM
I feel like this woman is very dysfunctional and could be a root cause for her son's dysfunction. Her blatant attempts now only accentuate the situation.She didn't kill the baby but she didn't prevent it either.
Yes - one would think that a grandmother who did not live in denial would have kept a much sharper eye on the newborn living under her roof with two obviously troubled parents.
Filly
12-05-2007, 10:49 PM
Well yes, this family is dysfunctional.
But I don't necessarily understand what's bothersome about the Christmas tree. Mine's up - and if one of my grandchildren got killed tomorrow and my child was in jail for the murder, I can well see myself being mad and tired, but I doubt I'd take the tree down.
And I seriously doubt I'd have the wits or heart or energy to toss any presents before the media came to call. Keeping the baby's present may be the psychological equivalent of leaving the room of your child who has died untouched for a period of time, until you're ready.
More power to ya SCM. Maybe it's her coping mechanism. Personally, I know I wouldn't even be able to speak to anyone let alone reporters. People deal with things differently. Maybe she was putting the tree up when all that horrendous stuff was happening under her roof. Alot of good the gifts will do that poor baby now.
wildTrose
12-06-2007, 07:26 AM
"That's beyond sick," she said, sitting in front of the family's Christmas tree in view of wrapped presents that had been bought for Nevaeh before she was killed." < from the article
The tree was already up and the presents purchased and wrapped before she died.
If this had been my grandaughter....that present would still be there under the tree...
The woman is emotionally tired, and at least she isnt saying that he didnt do it and he is a nice boy...
believe09
12-06-2007, 07:46 AM
She gave her son away to an aunt when he was 3 right? So she probably doesn't feel as responsible for him as another parent who actually raised their child would. I am starting to get a sense of why everyone in this family claims it is not their fault...
Filly
12-06-2007, 11:00 AM
"That's beyond sick," she said, sitting in front of the family's Christmas tree in view of wrapped presents that had been bought for Nevaeh before she was killed." < from the article
The tree was already up and the presents purchased and wrapped before she died.
If this had been my grandaughter....that present would still be there under the tree...
The woman is emotionally tired, and at least she isnt saying that he didnt do it and he is a nice boy...
That couple lived with her along with their baby. She had no idea what was going on under her own roof, but she put up a tree? Just my opinion, but if I had all that chaos going on in my house including a son that was out of his mind I would have focused on getting some counseling or something. I'm not saying she could control the son she didn't raise, but alot of denial is going on there. I do feel bad for the woman. I can't fathom how she feels except she said she is angry and tired. Myself, I know I wouldn't be able to sleep, eat, or have press in my home. Different people deal differently though.
wildTrose
12-06-2007, 11:24 AM
Im sure she new about the violence to the mother of the baby, but who could ever imagine something this horrific is going to happen to a 9 day old? So I would imagine they had planned on celebrating CHRISTMAS (not holiday lol) therefore someone put the tree up in preparation, then sometime after the tree was up and the present was wrapped, the baby was killed. There was no way to predict this.
So should they now take down the tree?
Mr. E
12-06-2007, 11:24 AM
I still don't understand how they know the father did it and not someone else in the house. Sounds like he has a violent history, but how do they know it was his finger that caused the life-threatening injuries?
southcitymom
12-06-2007, 01:49 PM
I still don't understand how they know the father did it and not someone else in the house. Sounds like he has a violent history, but how do they know it was his finger that caused the life-threatening injuries?
That's the constant question in my head too, Mr. E?
Lurker
12-06-2007, 02:08 PM
This is just beyond sick. That poor precious little girl, she never stood a chance!
Why, WHY WHY does God let things like this happen? It just doesn't make any sense.
GlitchWizard
12-06-2007, 02:10 PM
This is just beyond sick. That poor precious little girl, she never stood a chance!
Why, WHY WHY does God let things like this happen? It just doesn't make any sense.
When I die, the world will know. I intend to ASK God personally, then I'll arrange the clouds to let ya'll know the answer. He's got some 'splain'in to do.
southcitymom
12-06-2007, 03:10 PM
This is just beyond sick. That poor precious little girl, she never stood a chance!
Why, WHY WHY does God let things like this happen? It just doesn't make any sense.
Because God's not a puppet master - if He was, He would be meaningless as a diety. We have free will, thank God.
Lurker
12-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Because God's not a puppet master - if He was, He would be meaningless as a diety. We have free will, thank God.
After watching my Dad's painful fight with diabetes and kidney failure I asked my Mom the same question. Why would God let such a good man suffer so and die so slowly when there are so many sickos in the world. My Mom's answer was simple, she said "Because He doesn't want them".
Squishified
12-06-2007, 03:36 PM
This was posted on WS a few weeks ago. I don't know if y'all have seen/heard it , but it is very touching (it deals with God).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCdZwitrNoY
Columbo
12-06-2007, 05:28 PM
She gave her son away to an aunt when he was 3 right? So she probably doesn't feel as responsible for him as another parent who actually raised their child would. I am starting to get a sense of why everyone in this family claims it is not their fault...
Didn't she also make a comment now that she is "going to abandon him" ---well didn't she already do that when he was only three years old?
richandfamous
12-06-2007, 06:20 PM
the face of evil
http://krimsonrain.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/christopher-ryan-richardson.jpg
southcitymom
12-06-2007, 08:26 PM
After watching my Dad's painful fight with diabetes and kidney failure I asked my Mom the same question. Why would God let such a good man suffer so and die so slowly when there are so many sickos in the world. My Mom's answer was simple, she said "Because He doesn't want them".
I'm so sorry about your Dad's struggle, Lurker. :blowkiss: We are going through something similar with my step MIL who has ovarian cancer and will probably not make it through 2008. Also, another dear friend of mine is on his way out due to HIV and Hep C.
southcitymom
12-06-2007, 08:27 PM
the face of evil
I'd really like to know how they know it was his finger before I consider that headline.
believe09
12-06-2007, 08:29 PM
I would like to know the results of the lie detector test.
southcitymom
12-06-2007, 08:33 PM
I would like to know the results of the lie detector test.
Was there one? - I don't recall reading that. I'd love to know what they were. It just seems like a lot of immature, impaired people were in and out of that house. I'm sure the cops have their reasons for arresting the father - I guess I just still have some questions and would love to know what evidence they have.
believe09
12-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Was there one? - I don't recall reading that. I'd love to know what they were. It just seems like a lot of immature, impaired people were in and out of that house. I'm sure the cops have their reasons for arresting the father - I guess I just still have some questions and would love to know what evidence they have.
When he was being arraigned he was sobbing offering to take a lie detector test, which was then apparently administered. The police will not release the results.
southcitymom
12-06-2007, 08:47 PM
When he was being arraigned he was sobbing offering to take a lie detector test, which was then apparently administered. The police will not release the results.
Interesting....he really did seem sincerely freaked out and acting like he was being wrongfully accused at that hearing. I'm sure it could have been an act, but it definitely made me want to know even more what evidence the police have.
believe09
12-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Interesting....he really did seem sincerely freaked out and acting like he was being wrongfully accused at that hearing. I'm sure it could have been an act, but it definitely made me want to know even more what evidence the police have.
I agree-but man I can remember cases where the suspect has fought for years demanding DNA only to have it come back that he is the perp...
southcitymom
12-06-2007, 09:03 PM
I agree-but man I can remember cases where the suspect has fought for years demanding DNA only to have it come back that he is the perp...
I hear you!
Reannan
12-06-2007, 11:52 PM
So, where does the curling iron fit in? I think the fact that LE went back to the crime scene looking for this item is very telling, and very significant. I don't believe any man would assault anyone with "just" a curling iron. (sorry for the thoughts that may evoke). Something else is amiss with this case, and it isn't typical, and it isn't pretty.
philamena
12-06-2007, 11:58 PM
After watching my Dad's painful fight with diabetes and kidney failure I asked my Mom the same question. Why would God let such a good man suffer so and die so slowly when there are so many sickos in the world. My Mom's answer was simple, she said "Because He doesn't want them".
Sounds like your mother was a wise woman, Lurker. ;)
Mygirlsadie
12-07-2007, 01:22 AM
LIttle Rowen's stepdad acted the same way...
Interesting....he really did seem sincerely freaked out and acting like he was being wrongfully accused at that hearing. I'm sure it could have been an act, but it definitely made me want to know even more what evidence the police have.
JinxieJada
12-07-2007, 01:49 AM
I'm trying to find the link, but one article stated that they focused on dad ONLY because of his criminal history/background. Will keep searching!
wildTrose
12-07-2007, 07:42 AM
How many of you mothers, would not wake if and when your child was placed on your chest? especially a newborn....I would wake every time mine made a sigh...
with however many people in the house, someone should have heard something, that type of injury, the baby would have been screaming with pain....new mothers, could you sleep thru your baby crying?
We are not hearing the whole story here...
JinxieJada
12-07-2007, 07:48 AM
How many of you mothers, would not wake if and when your child was placed on your chest? especially a newborn....I would wake every time mine made a sigh...
with however many people in the house, someone should have heard something, that type of injury, the baby would have been screaming with pain....new mothers, could you sleep thru your baby crying?
We are not hearing the whole story here...
I agree 150% with what you said! Hell, my youngest is 2 and i STILL wake up at the slightest sound ANY of my children make...Please do NOT think I'm excusing what happened to this child..I just think the blame goes a hell of alot further than just the person that actually did this.
websurfer
12-07-2007, 07:54 AM
:twocents:
This person is the ultimate evil.
evil people who do such things do not deserve gentle care.
They have done a horrible crime and should not be coddled any more than the savage treatment they inflict on innocent others
Filly
12-07-2007, 08:02 AM
How many of you mothers, would not wake if and when your child was placed on your chest? especially a newborn....I would wake every time mine made a sigh...
with however many people in the house, someone should have heard something, that type of injury, the baby would have been screaming with pain....new mothers, could you sleep thru your baby crying?
We are not hearing the whole story here...
That's why I don't get the grandmom didn't know what was going on under her own roof? I've woken up when I heard strangers kids crying. I hear the baby next door crying I wake up. Then again that's just me. Who knows?
believe09
12-07-2007, 08:33 AM
That's why I don't get the grandmom didn't know what was going on under her own roof? I've woken up when I heard strangers kids crying. I hear the baby next door crying I wake up. Then again that's just me. Who knows?
Agreed, but I wonder what shape Neveah's lungs were in since she was so premature and with the blood coming from her nose/mouth I also wonder if there was a hand across her face. She had bruising on her head and face as well, I think. Mom was drunk or high I bet...again I am not defending her, I am just playing devil's advocate. Now I am also one of those Mom's who hear their children when they turn over, and I always had a co-sleeper with my newborns because I followed attachment parenting.
paddy01
12-08-2007, 11:47 AM
:twocents:
This person is the ultimate evil.
evil people who do such things do not deserve gentle care.
They have done a horrible crime and should not be coddled any more than the savage treatment they inflict on innocent others
You took the words right out of my mouth! I would like the person responsible for this despicable crime against this innocent baby given the death penalty, nothing less.
southcitymom
12-08-2007, 10:52 PM
:twocents:
This person is the ultimate evil.
evil people who do such things do not deserve gentle care.
They have done a horrible crime and should not be coddled any more than the savage treatment they inflict on innocent others
What do you mean? - that the person who did this to this infant should be treated in the same manner? Wouldn't that make all of us just as savage as the people who do these things?
southcitymom
12-08-2007, 10:55 PM
Agreed, but I wonder what shape Neveah's lungs were in since she was so premature and with the blood coming from her nose/mouth I also wonder if there was a hand across her face. She had bruising on her head and face as well, I think. Mom was drunk or high I bet...again I am not defending her, I am just playing devil's advocate. Now I am also one of those Mom's who hear their children when they turn over, and I always had a co-sleeper with my newborns because I followed attachment parenting.
I too believe that others in the house at the time this was happening were probably loaded. Also, newborns can cry a lot - the others in the house may well have just ignored any baby cries - waiting for the parents to handle it. Also - good thought about her premie lungs and her face being covered.
I think it's safe to say that most of the adults in that house were not making that child their first priority.
SewingDeb
12-09-2007, 02:07 PM
How many of you mothers, would not wake if and when your child was placed on your chest? especially a newborn....I would wake every time mine made a sigh...
with however many people in the house, someone should have heard something, that type of injury, the baby would have been screaming with pain....new mothers, could you sleep thru your baby crying?
We are not hearing the whole story here...
What kind of drugs cause you to sleep deeply when you come down from them? I'm thinking Meth but I could be wrong.
miimaa
12-09-2007, 05:02 PM
What do you mean? - that the person who did this to this infant should be treated in the same manner? Wouldn't that make all of us just as savage as the people who do these things?
No - it wouldn't make all of us just as savage. That baby was innocent! The pos that hurt her is not. The baby did nothing to bring that kind of treatment into her existence. The pos did!!
southcitymom
12-09-2007, 06:27 PM
What kind of drugs cause you to sleep deeply when you come down from them? I'm thinking Meth but I could be wrong.
SewingDeb,
I think just about any drug to include alochol when done in great quantities could have this effect when coming down.
SCM
southcitymom
12-09-2007, 06:30 PM
No - it wouldn't make all of us just as savage. That baby was innocent! The pos that hurt her is not. The baby did nothing to bring that kind of treatment into her existence. The pos did!!
I guess I am not following this clearly. If we did to the "pos" what the"pos" did to the baby, we would ourselves become "pos" and there is no possible end to the chain of violence.
I personally would like to respond to the stressors of life in a way that doesn't entail brutalizing others.
Mr. E
12-10-2007, 09:52 AM
I guess I am not following this clearly. If we did to the "pos" what the"pos" did to the baby, we would ourselves become "pos" and there is no possible end to the chain of violence.
I personally would like to respond to the stressors of life in a way that doesn't entail brutalizing others.
I'm in agreement with you. I like to believe that people who cause harm to others or who murder on earth will be punished later, but I'm not sure we, other people, are the ones who should inflict that punishment. Then we become no better than the person who started the trouble in the first place. It would be hard to take that stance if you were a victim or friends/family of a victim, though.
Back on topic, I keep waiting to hear the proof that the father did it. He seems capable of that kind of violence, but nobody else in the house seemed much like a decent, responsible adult. How do we know it was the father who caused the infant's death?
believe09
12-10-2007, 10:17 AM
I'm in agreement with you. I like to believe that people who cause harm to others or who murder on earth will be punished later, but I'm not sure we, other people, are the ones who should inflict that punishment. Then we become no better than the person who started the trouble in the first place. It would be hard to take that stance if you were a victim or friends/family of a victim, though.
Back on topic, I keep waiting to hear the proof that the father did it. He seems capable of that kind of violence, but nobody else in the house seemed much like a decent, responsible adult. How do we know it was the father who caused the infant's death?
I am waiting as well...I have to believe there is some pretty compelling evidence, but I guess we wait.
Reannan
12-10-2007, 11:24 AM
I stated early on in this case that my hinky meter was alarming in this case. We REALLY need to know for SURE that the father is the perp in this case, because if he is falsely accused, that means the real monster gets away scott-free. Whoever did this needs to be brought to justice - not the most-likely perp, or the easiest one to pin it on.
lviola
12-10-2007, 12:52 PM
I'm not so sure HE did this to the baby. I'm beginning to think the mother had something to do with all of this. This is such an inconceivable crime to even think about, but......
I think his reaction in the car was more of a father that was pissed off at his baby's mother for her doing something like this to the baby, than of someone that assaulted and killed his baby.
I saw on a report that when she was very pregnant, they caught Neveah's mother with baggies of cocaine inside of her body that they had to retrieve? Is this right? If so, she doesn't really seem like a mother that really WANTED this child. To put the unborn baby in harm's way by stuffing baggies of coke into your body is NOT the action of a mom that wants her child....
I don't know what to think. This is just sickening!
Maybe she hid the baggies in the baby? Maybe she was trying to use the curling iron to get them out?
This is just sick, sick, sick ...
paddy01
12-10-2007, 04:15 PM
I stated early on in this case that my hinky meter was alarming in this case. We REALLY need to know for SURE that the father is the perp in this case, because if he is falsely accused, that means the real monster gets away scott-free. Whoever did this needs to be brought to justice - not the most-likely perp, or the easiest one to pin it on.
I agree, would hate to think the real perp got away with this heinous crime. After all, there were a lot of people in & out of that house.
Beffie
01-09-2008, 10:16 AM
The latest on this case.
Mother of infant was also abused.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/010908/loc_20080109002.shtml
believe09
01-09-2008, 10:24 AM
The latest on this case.
Mother of infant was also abused.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/010908/loc_20080109002.shtml
It is interesting that people are still having a hard time believing that Chris Richardson did this to his child....assaulting females is clearly his MO-why is it hard to believe that he visited this violence on his child?? Now I understand why the police went back to the house for the curling iron early in the case...clearly the Mom has some credibility here, vs the dad and yet the comment in the article by the woman who knows the family is alarming.
I think he may not know that he did it-but I think it was him.
Beffie
01-09-2008, 10:37 AM
I think he may not know that he did it-but I think it was him.
I think that is the case also. The part about him abusing his girlfriend with hair straightner (HOT, none the less) should seal the cell door closed. He had some sick fetishes, but why do it to a baby??? Maybe someone should plug a curling iron in and give him a little taste of his own medicine. I couldn't even imagine. I cry when I am straightening my hair and the straightner slips and touches my fingers for less then half a second. SICK SICK SICK!!!! I just want to know WHY THE BABY??? :(
Rest well dear little one, you are in a much better place.
imthemom
01-09-2008, 11:02 AM
With the new evidence I think it is clear that he did this. So sad, I think people just don't want to believe something like this could happen at all. Not that they really think he is innocent. That poor baby, barely here a week on earth and to be inflicted that much pain and abuse.
dee10134
01-09-2008, 11:05 AM
wait. what does it mean putting baggies of cocaine inside of her while prego??Like the actual BAG going inside of her by swallowing it or the other way?
I thought it was either vaginal or rectal, IIRC.
dee10134
01-09-2008, 11:14 AM
Most of you have this man convicted and hung for this crime when you don't even know the evidence. How can you even make judgment on someone when you don't even know all of the facts?
We don't know ALL of the facts and evidence in the case so maybe we shouldn't be so quick to form conclusions that this man is guilty.
I want to know how they know it was HIS finger that assaulted her? I think the mom had something to do with this. Maybe she did this to spite him? My hinky meter has been going off. There is MUCH more to this story than what has been told to the media or even to LE.
dee10134
01-09-2008, 11:15 AM
What kind of drugs cause you to sleep deeply when you come down from them? I'm thinking Meth but I could be wrong.
Alcohol will do that if you drink enough of it. Some people black out or pass out and will sleep for HOURS with no idea what's happening around you.
dee10134
01-09-2008, 11:21 AM
The latest on this case.
Mother of infant was also abused.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/010908/loc_20080109002.shtml
"The child's mother, Cynthia Goscicki, said she has had a long history of domestic violence with her live-in boyfriend. She testified yesterday in 25th District Court that Richardson sexually assaulted her in a similar fashion that he's accused of against their daughter. When Goscicki would cry and try to stop him, she said, he would tell her "just to take it."
In a motel room, she said, Richardson once used a hair-straightening iron to burn her genital area.
These alleged prior sexual acts show a pattern of the type of crime that Richardson is capable of committing, argued Lora Weingarden, the Wayne County assistant prosecutor, who is handling the case."
So are we honestly to believe the words of the mother? She has a pretty shady and dysfunctional past too. It could be possible that she's making this up to shift any blame or suspicion on her to him...
Clearly Confused
01-09-2008, 11:31 AM
"The child's mother, Cynthia Goscicki, said she has had a long history of domestic violence with her live-in boyfriend. She testified yesterday in 25th District Court that Richardson sexually assaulted her in a similar fashion that he's accused of against their daughter. When Goscicki would cry and try to stop him, she said, he would tell her "just to take it."
In a motel room, she said, Richardson once used a hair-straightening iron to burn her genital area.
These alleged prior sexual acts show a pattern of the type of crime that Richardson is capable of committing, argued Lora Weingarden, the Wayne County assistant prosecutor, who is handling the case."
So are we honestly to believe the words of the mother? She has a pretty shady and dysfunctional past too. It could be possible that she's making this up to shift any blame or suspicion on her to him...
I thought the same thing when I read that. She was afraid of him and maybe could have set him up to be free of the baby and him. I am just thinking though that if she did do this you would have thought he would have done more than smack her expecially with his voilent past. I am thinking along the lines of the story GlitchWizard told. I would be more inclined to believe she did it if he beat her rather her just smack her.:confused:
bakerprune64
01-09-2008, 11:32 AM
"The child's mother, Cynthia Goscicki, said she has had a long history of domestic violence with her live-in boyfriend. She testified yesterday in 25th District Court that Richardson sexually assaulted her in a similar fashion that he's accused of against their daughter. When Goscicki would cry and try to stop him, she said, he would tell her "just to take it."
In a motel room, she said, Richardson once used a hair-straightening iron to burn her genital area.
These alleged prior sexual acts show a pattern of the type of crime that Richardson is capable of committing, argued Lora Weingarden, the Wayne County assistant prosecutor, who is handling the case."
So are we honestly to believe the words of the mother? She has a pretty shady and dysfunctional past too. It could be possible that she's making this up to shift any blame or suspicion on her to him...
I agree with your statement. And I suppose he was the one who inserted Cocaine into her body cavity?
dbmthur
01-09-2008, 11:35 AM
The latest on this case.
Mother of infant was also abused.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/010908/loc_20080109002.shtml
If there was any doubt that it was him who did this why would his own mother go to testify against him? He may not remember doing it because he was high on drugs or drunk. His mom said he was drunk. Maybe Nevaeh's mom didn't wake up because she was extremely tired. Caring for a newborn baby wears a person out. I know that when my husband took care of our kids and I was in another room, I slept more soundly because I was so exhausted....
whose to say he didn't give the mother drugs that made her sleep harder(while she was sleeping?) with the intent of doing something to the baby?
Or maybe the mom took something to help her sleep?
KOOL LOOK
01-09-2008, 11:43 AM
If there was any doubt that it was him who did this why would his own mother go to testify against him? He may not remember doing it because he was high on drugs or drunk. His mom said he was drunk. Maybe Nevaeh's mom didn't wake up because she was extremely tired. Caring for a newborn baby wears a person out. I know that when my husband took care of our kids and I was in another room, I slept more soundly because I was so exhausted....
whose to say he didn't give the mother drugs that made her sleep harder(while she was sleeping?) with the intent of doing something to the baby?
Or maybe the mom took something to help her sleep?
Sweetheart, your a normal, caring good mother and wife. There's peace and stability in your home. You would have to witness the kind of lifestyles these type of people live drug out on drugs. There is no more morals, boundaries and limits. It's a free for all. Only the law can keep this type of element in any kind of boundary, society can't.
Clearly Confused
01-09-2008, 11:53 AM
Whoever the baby was with, the caretaker did it. Opportunity, access.
Being the mother took the torment and abuse as she stated, and that tends to make me think she has experienced childhood sexual abuse, she may have been acting out. They may have done it together, the mother watching.
When the baby began to show signs of abuse, she freaked, being others were around to view and begin to witness the abuse, she had to act.
There ain't no way in Hades it would go down like being described with this mother. She's more involved than what we know. I hope a true deep investigation is done, no bleeding hearts, even for the mother, it was her utmost responsibility to provide the babe a safe environment. Ain't no excuse. She could have given the baby up for adoption, if she felt he would abuse the baby, or had it placed with family til she felt it safe to bring the baby into the enviroment, too many options.
If he was that good of a deceiver, which I doubt being his known behavior, but if he was that deceptive and she truly couldn't see it coming or have anyway of knowing, unless he repents, he's in danger of Judgement and hell fire. As one poster earlier said they hope there's a special place in Hell for people that do this, I want to assure them, there is! However, it's possible one parent could be totally innocent of this matter. I hope the truth is found, and the right punishment is carried out.
One positive thing, the baby is too young to remember, :woohoo: I haven't heard of any lifelong injuries, and hopefully she'll never endure such horrific acts. Does anyone know who has custody of the baby. I sure hope they don't raise her everyday bringing up this subject.
The baby is dead from this abuse.
dee10134
01-09-2008, 11:53 AM
(snip)
One positive thing, the baby is too young to remember, :woohoo: I haven't heard of any lifelong injuries, and hopefully she'll never endure such horrific acts. Does anyone know who has custody of the baby. I sure hope they don't raise her everyday bringing up this subject.
KOOL LOOK: I'm sorry to inform you that the baby is dead. She died as a result of the injuries. :mad:
dasaky
01-09-2008, 11:57 AM
One positive thing, the baby is too young to remember, :woohoo: I haven't heard of any lifelong injuries, and hopefully she'll never endure such horrific acts. Does anyone know who has custody of the baby. I sure hope they don't raise her everyday bringing up this subject.
The baby died the next day.
KOOL LOOK
01-09-2008, 12:02 PM
Darn it, I must have gottent this case confused with another one similar. So do we know when the baby died? Geez, that's a heart breaker. The injuries had to be deep and substantial for the baby to die. I thought I had read all the posts before posting, sorry everyone. Another one of my flub ups.
So they've had a hearing, the police doesn't give out information, so all we have now as far as evidence is what the news is reporting. Which is hard to come to a conclusion of guilt, of one or both of the parents in my opinion. I would need a little more info. Specific details, like where was the mother supposedly sleeping, any past injuries detected on the baby?
If what the mother says is true about his sexual abuse of her with the curling rod, she should have some visible healed wounds or brown scarring. Heck I have it when an arm brushes cross the inside oven walls, or the curling iron makes contact with my flesh.
Once again, sorry guys, now I'm more sad. I deleted my post. I still can't figure why I thought the baby had lived.
KOOL LOOK
01-09-2008, 12:04 PM
The baby died the next day.
The is the part of information I missed. Thanks. I would like to know what the autopsy said. More in depth details, so obviously more was done internally than just external abuse. Thanks for telling me.
Clearly Confused
01-09-2008, 12:57 PM
Darn it, I must have gottent this case confused with another one similar. So do we know when the baby died? Geez, that's a heart breaker. The injuries had to be deep and substantial for the baby to die. I thought I had read all the posts before posting, sorry everyone. Another one of my flub ups.
So they've had a hearing, the police doesn't give out information, so all we have now as far as evidence is what the news is reporting. Which is hard to come to a conclusion of guilt, of one or both of the parents in my opinion. I would need a little more info. Specific details, like where was the mother supposedly sleeping, any past injuries detected on the baby?
If what the mother says is true about his sexual abuse of her with the curling rod, she should have some visible healed wounds or brown scarring. Heck I have it when an arm brushes cross the inside oven walls, or the curling iron makes contact with my flesh.
Once again, sorry guys, now I'm more sad. I deleted my post. I still can't figure why I thought the baby had lived.
No need to apoligize..I know I have done it.;)
I thought the same thing about the injuries but then again this happened to a brand new baby. Oh..I am going to :sick: .
For the record..I don't believe the curling iron story.
Indy Gal
01-09-2008, 01:06 PM
I wish death on ALL CM's. Before you flame me I know it is wrong to say that but it is how I feel. I agree with Dee on this one. Something is not right in this case. I cant get over him being so mad at the "mom" in the car on the way to the hospital. it just doesnt make sense. I wish we had more to go on, Because right now my gut says he didnt do this. Of course the gut has been wrong a few times, but something isnt adding up here.
KOOL LOOK
01-09-2008, 01:35 PM
No need to apoligize..I know I have done it.;)
I thought the same thing about the injuries but then again this happened to a brand new baby. Oh..I am going to :sick: .
For the record..I don't believe the curling iron story.
Thanks, I was too shamed. I just don't know how that flew by me, it's in the title thread, but if you go to the first page and read through the posts, unless I missed it, no one is speaking of the death, just the injuries and the mom and dad. I feel a little better. :crazy:
I wish death on ALL CM's. Before you flame me I know it is wrong to say that but it is how I feel. I agree with Dee on this one. Something is not right in this case. I cant get over him being so mad at the "mom" in the car on the way to the hospital. it just doesnt make sense. I wish we had more to go on, Because right now my gut says he didnt do this. Of course the gut has been wrong a few times, but something isnt adding up here.
Indy, I agree like some others here too. Something isn't stacking up about the boyfriend jumping in the car hitting her, I really don't believe the curling iron either. That sounds like drama drama drama from the types that cry wolf when reporting sexual abuse. Heard before. I just don't see a woman laying there and "taking it" as it burns and scolds her private area, for anyone's sexual gratification.
Indy Gal
01-09-2008, 01:57 PM
Plus why is she just telling this now? If she hasnt told before. here is my lists of questions, if anyone has the answers.
1. How do they know it was a finger?
2. EXCUSE ME HERE but how does a finger do this much damage?
3. How could not one other person in this house hear something?
4. How long before she went to the hospital did this happen?
5. Why are they only pointing the finger at the dad?
ETA I feel as though this story is just that a story. The "moms" story that is.
Clearly Confused
01-09-2008, 02:13 PM
Thanks, I was too shamed. I just don't know how that flew by me, it's in the title thread, but if you go to the first page and read through the posts, unless I missed it, no one is speaking of the death, just the injuries and the mom and dad. I feel a little better. :crazy:
You would be surprise how much flies by me...lol
pixies
01-09-2008, 02:25 PM
A year ago a man RAPED his newborn daughter in the hospital. The day after she was born. When the baby went to the nursery the staff noticed and reported him.
The mother,of course, was right there in the room.
Clearly Confused
01-09-2008, 02:35 PM
A year ago a man RAPED his newborn daughter in the hospital. The day after she was born. When the baby went to the nursery the staff noticed and reported him.
The mother,of course, was right there in the room.
Was the mother charged?
KOOL LOOK
01-09-2008, 03:06 PM
A year ago a man RAPED his newborn daughter in the hospital. The day after she was born. When the baby went to the nursery the staff noticed and reported him.
The mother,of course, was right there in the room.
You are pulling my leg right?????? No way????? To be so initmate with a man and not know he is perverted? Please!!!!!! This is horrible, glad he got caught.
I sure hope it wasn't a hospital employee now that I think about it. I don't trust anyone, not even my own mama if I suspected sexual abuse. I'm serious!
Indy Gal
01-09-2008, 03:09 PM
Here is the thread for that case. Sad but yes it is true, SICK *****
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39449&highlight=dad+raped+baby+in+hospital
pixies
01-09-2008, 03:22 PM
Here is the thread for that case. Sad but yes it is true, SICK *****
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39449&highlight=dad+raped+baby+in+hospital
Thank you Indy Gal.
That is exactly it.
Indy Gal
01-09-2008, 03:36 PM
Thank you Indy Gal.
That is exactly it.
Anytime!:D
believe09
01-09-2008, 03:50 PM
Plus why is she just telling this now? If she hasnt told before. here is my lists of questions, if anyone has the answers.
1. How do they know it was a finger?
2. EXCUSE ME HERE but how does a finger do this much damage?
3. How could not one other person in this house hear something?
4. How long before she went to the hospital did this happen?
5. Why are they only pointing the finger at the dad?
ETA I feel as though this story is just that a story. The "moms" story that is.
Guys, whoa-this infant was a preemie by 5 weeks, and on top of that she was only 9 days old. Clearly this is not the first time the evidence the mother is stating has been heard-the police searched the house for a curling iron and a hair straightener the day after the child was taken to the hospital because at that time it had not been determined what she was sodomized with. by the time the baby made it to the ER, she had already lost 1/2 of her blood, not to mention she was in sepsis. The injuries to the baby's face, throat and eye were consistent with a beating at least if not that her face/nose/mouth was covered-AND a baby this young had underdeveloped lungs and I bet that her cry was not very loud. The baby was taken to the hospital upon the child being put onto her mothers chest by the father-this woke mom up and she found her child bleeding from the nose and mouth. i believe that dad said he put the child on the mother's chest, but claimed that he found the child bleeding.
The autopsy determined she had been digitally raped but with sufficient force as to cause internal perforation.
yup-this household was a mess and these people were not leaders of the community by a long shot. I would love to know what sent mom into premature labor with this angel who still should have been cooking in the safety of her mother's womb rather than being sodomized and murdered. i doubt that there was a rush to judgment here-and mom may turn around and find herself another psychopath to create more children in jeopardy with...this story may change my life along with Rowan Ford's.
Indy Gal
01-10-2008, 09:47 AM
Good point about the curling iron the next day. That didnt even enter my mind.
SewingDeb
01-10-2008, 10:11 AM
Indy,
I remember reading that there was loud music coming from their room. That may be why the grandparents didn't hear anything but it makes me wonder how the mother could sleep through the music much less any cries from the baby. I do have a feeling he covered the baby's face.
Indy Gal
01-10-2008, 10:42 AM
Thats what gets me is the mom. Okay saying she was abused is it possible she really knew what happened and didnt say anything due to fear of him? Man I just wished I could 100 percent believe it was him. I mean I have been wrong but usually catch onto peoples fake cries and such, but he really seemed sincere he didnt do it.
believe09
01-10-2008, 01:49 PM
Thats what gets me is the mom. Okay saying she was abused is it possible she really knew what happened and didnt say anything due to fear of him? Man I just wished I could 100 percent believe it was him. I mean I have been wrong but usually catch onto peoples fake cries and such, but he really seemed sincere he didnt do it.
I could be wrong as well-but I think he doesn't know he did it-or won't allow himself to know. Any chance he is acting out digital rape because this is an experience of his from infancy/childhood? He is one sick, angry boy-man even if he hadn't been charged with this crime. Look at the rap sheet on this guy! And the fact that his bio mother and aunt are throwing him to the wolves speaks volumes...they aren't even trying to protect him and are simply talking and talking and talking to the press about their loathing of him. This is not a heartwarming story and absolutely no one wins no matter what happens to Chris Richardson...
MaddyDecaf
01-10-2008, 02:16 PM
The grandparents were in the car on the way to the hospital when this "alleged" POS beat the mother - who was holding the baby with blood coming from the mouth, nose and rectum? WTF? The world has gone insane.
This is how I've been feeling -- the world has gone insane. I am somewhat sorry I've recently signed onto forums such as these. I believe that learning of all these horrific, heinous acts/crimes has begun to depress me in a very short period of time.
While I understand that humans are animals with rage and reactionary behavior at times, it seems that crimes are becoming more gruesome. Is it just me? Is it the media reporting these days that we were shielded from in the past? Is it really getting worse or has it always been this way AND this often?!?!
paddy01
01-10-2008, 02:47 PM
This is how I've been feeling -- the world has gone insane. I am somewhat sorry I've recently signed onto forums such as these. I believe that learning of all these horrific, heinous acts/crimes has begun to depress me in a very short period of time.
While I understand that humans are animals with rage and reactionary behavior at times, it seems that crimes are becoming more gruesome. Is it just me? Is it the media reporting these days that we were shielded from in the past? Is it really getting worse or has it always been this way AND this often?!?!
Hi MaddyDecaf, I too have asked these same questions. IMO, I think crimes such as these have been going on for along time. When I was growing up in the 50's 60's, people just didn't talk about it. There were very few news articles regarding child murders in Los Angeles, CA. I can think of only two that made headlines. I thank God for the media, it's made people aware of these crimes against children.
MaddyDecaf
01-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Hi MaddyDecaf, I too have asked these same questions. IMO, I think crimes such as these have been going on for along time. When I was growing up in the 50's 60's, people just didn't talk about it. There were very few news articles regarding child murders in Los Angeles, CA. I can think of only two that made headlines. I thank God for the media, it's made people aware of these crimes against children.
Hi Paddy (it's Maddy!) ;)
I, too, grew up in the 50s/60s and agree. We were definitely shielded by media constraints.
I have mixed emotion about it. The good news is that these days, you have to be living under a rock not to be trained to "instinctively" know to be consistently aware of your surroundings and the capability of people who can (and very well MAY) do you harm. The bad news? I kinda preferred being blissfully ignorant ... maybe .. I think ... kinda/sorta. What about you?
:cool:
Indy Gal
01-10-2008, 02:59 PM
I was sooooooooo naive until I started reading and posting here. Now I am a paranoid freak...LOL
ETA nice to meet you Maddy, welcome to WS!
MaddyDecaf
01-10-2008, 03:05 PM
I was sooooooooo naive until I started reading and posting here. Now I am a paranoid freak...LOL
ETA nice to meet you Maddy, welcome to WS!
Hiiiii and thanks for the welcome! :blushing:
Also - thanks for the affirmation about my new-found paranoia. Me no likey!
:eek:
Indy Gal
01-10-2008, 03:08 PM
Just wait until you get close to a certain case, nevermind dont want to scare you away...LOL
It is sad but it does seem as if stuff like this happens everyday anymore.
paddy01
01-10-2008, 03:43 PM
Hi Paddy (it's Maddy!) ;)
I, too, grew up in the 50s/60s and agree. We were definitely shielded by media constraints.
I have mixed emotion about it. The good news is that these days, you have to be living under a rock not to be trained to "instinctively" know to be consistently aware of your surroundings and the capability of people who can (and very well MAY) do you harm. The bad news? I kinda preferred being blissfully ignorant ... maybe .. I think ... kinda/sorta. What about you?
:cool:
Hi Maddy,
I've become a paranoid freak like my friend Indy Gal. I called the police on the parents of 9 year old boy who recently moved in next door to me. What I thought was abuse, turned out to be a case of flu. I was not aware the little boy is slightly retarded, so when he began vomiting he started screaming like someone was killing him. Parents didn't appreciate my being concerned, they don't even look at me! But I'd do it again in a heartbeat if I thought a child was being abused. No, I'd never go back to the day when all this was just kept quiet.
Filly
01-10-2008, 03:59 PM
I was sooooooooo naive until I started reading and posting here. Now I am a paranoid freak...LOL
ETA nice to meet you Maddy, welcome to WS!
HAHA, no you are not. You are informed. It'd be easier, Indy just to turn a blind eye to all of these horrific things that happen in this world, but it is reality. Sad, but true. Don't let anyone tell you that you are paranoid, babes. Hi Maddy from me as well.
MaddyDecaf
01-10-2008, 04:39 PM
HAHA, no you are not. You are informed. It'd be easier, Indy just to turn a blind eye to all of these horrific things that happen in this world, but it is reality. Sad, but true. Don't let anyone tell you that you are paranoid, babes. Hi Maddy from me as well.
Hiiiiiiiii Filly! Thank you, too, for the welcome and 'paranoia' affirmation. It's good to know that I'm in good company!
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me/you/us. Woo-frackin-hoo.
xoxoxo,
Maddy, the
.......................................... :chicken:
southcitymom
01-10-2008, 05:37 PM
Just wait until you get close to a certain case, nevermind dont want to scare you away...LOL
It is sad but it does seem as if stuff like this happens everyday anymore.
I actually think stuff like this has always happened, but now in our global 24/7 news society, we are more aware of it. I personally believe the world is safer today - particularly for children - than it was in the past.
Retired in NH
01-14-2008, 03:35 PM
Is there any more on this case?? I know its to eary for a trial. This breaks my heart. I have a 4 month old grandbaby and just the thought makes me very very sad.
RiverRat
01-14-2008, 09:53 PM
Is there any more on this case?? I know its to eary for a trial. This breaks my heart. I have a 4 month old grandbaby and just the thought makes me very very sad.
Welcome to WBS - not for the faint of heart. Day in and Day Out. And just when you think you've heard it all, tomorrow's news is posted.
paddy01
01-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Welcome to WBS - not for the faint of heart. Day in and Day Out. And just when you think you've heard it all, tomorrow's news is posted.
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Beffie
01-26-2008, 04:24 PM
Judge tosses out charges against father of murdered baby
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/012708/loc_20080127002.shtml
LINCOLN PARK — Whoever killed 8-day-old Nevaeh Anne Richardson likely will never be brought to justice.
That was the chilling conclusion reached by a Wayne County prosecutor Friday after a judge ruled that there wasn't enough evidence to charge the infant's father with the crime.
"An innocent baby is killed ... and we may never have the killer in custody," said Lora Weingarden, the assistant Wayne County prosecutor who handled the case.
Without mincing words, 25th District Judge David Bajorek blasted police for the way they investigated and presented their case against Christopher Ryan Richardson, 21, of Lincoln Park.
The judge said he "would never have signed the complaint and warrant" charging Richardson with the crime had detectives been more forthcoming about the evidence they had when they initially presented the case to him.
Bajorek said the evidence presented during Friday's preliminary examination was "much different" from what detectives told him when they convinced him to sign the warrant in November charging Richardson with felony murder, first-degree criminal sexual conduct and first-degree child abuse.
The judge said prosecutors had no physical evidence linking Richardson to the crime, and added that several other people had access to the child during the same time period.
While the result of a polygraph test can't legally be admitted as evidence, the interview portion of a polygraph test can be.
Bajorek said that during a polygraph test administered to Richardson, Taylor police Sgt. Michael Anthony spent six hours telling Richardson lies in "an attempt to induce him to make an incriminating statement."
For instance, the judge said, Anthony told Richardson that police had DNA evidence linking him to the crime when they didn't.
Despite those claims, the judge said, Richardson remained steadfast during the six-hour test that he had nothing to do with his daughter's death.
At the end of the test, Bajorek said, Richardson said it's possible his fingernail might have scraped against the baby's anus while he was changing a diaper.
That's the part prosecutors were hoping might link him to the crime as Nevaeh died Nov. 24 from "anal intrusion."
According to police, Richardson and the baby's mother, Cynthia Goscicki, took Nevaeh to Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital on Nov. 23 after discovering blood coming from the baby's mouth and nose.Employees there noticed additional trauma to the infant's rectum and called police before transferring Nevaeh to Children's Hospital of Michigan in Detroit. The baby died the next day. An autopsy ruled her death a homicide.
An autopsy concluded that the infant died from massive internal bleeding and sepsis, a blood disorder. Before she died, the infant also suffered bruising to her head and ears, as well as injuries to her genital area. Her right eye also was bloodied.
Lincoln Park Police Chief Thomas Karnes said he believes his detectives did everything possible with the limited amount of evidence they had.
Unlike the prosecutor who said she doubts anyone else will ever be charged in this case, the chief said he isn't giving up.
More at link.
southcitymom
01-26-2008, 05:18 PM
Wow, Beffie - thanks for this update. I do wish we knew what happened to this child and how it happened. I am glad the charges were thrown out if the evidence was not compelling. I wonder if we will hear more about this in the days, weeks, moths, years to come.
As this case developed, the evidence did not seem forthcoming that could link the father's finger to the infant's bum.
My continued prayers for the family.
dimples37398
01-26-2008, 05:55 PM
Yeah I was really wondering when they said he took a lie detector test but they didn't release the results. I wonder if it said that he was telling the truth? According to that article the judge really seemed to question the fathers guilt.
I really don't know what to think about this case.
Anyone know the site to look up arrest records in that area....maybe the other people in the home that day?
southcitymom
01-26-2008, 06:18 PM
Yeah I was really wondering when they said he took a lie detector test but they didn't release the results. I wonder if it said that he was telling the truth? According to that article the judge really seemed to question the fathers guilt.
I really don't know what to think about this case.
Anyone know the site to look up arrest records in that area....maybe the other people in the home that day?
I would assume the police have access and have done this. It was released that the Dad had some domestic violence stuff in his history.
Filly
01-26-2008, 06:31 PM
Just WOW. Thank you, Beffie.
Beffie
01-26-2008, 08:39 PM
Just WOW. Thank you, Beffie.
You are welcome. When I got my local paper that was on the front cover and I thought I needed to post the article here. If there is any more news I will post it. This poor little girl needs justice.
philamena
01-26-2008, 08:59 PM
OMG I am hoping that I read Beffie's article incorrectly because surely there is no way in God's green earth that an azzhole who raped and killed an innocent little newborn got off scottfree!?!?!?!?!?
I mean where is the f***** justice for that baby? OMG that is insane.
Not enough evidence????????
How about a dead baby that was obviously raped?!!?
paddy01
01-26-2008, 09:25 PM
Just out of curiosity, what do you think Cynthia (mother) of baby is thinking about charges being dropped? She told authorities in court that she suffered similar abuse from Richardson. Due to his violent behavior in the past, if I were her I'd pack up & leave town. :eek: Just thinking out loud...
philamena
01-26-2008, 09:37 PM
paddy,
I say you're spot on! Actually, I would have left the first time he touched the baby.
Bobbisangel
01-27-2008, 04:58 AM
This is what happens when LE doesn't do their job right. If just really ticks me off. Would they rather that the killer was convicted and went to prison for years and years or are they so anxious to get a confession that they will lie to get it!!!! This happens to often and LE needs to get a grip...do it right...and make sure everything is on the up and up so that they will get a conviction in court and justice will be served for the poor victims. Now who ever raped and abused this tiny baby just may get away with it.
I hope that LE has a list of every single person that had been in contact with that baby in its short little life and that they question every person...and do it the right way. Someone hurt that little baby. Someone who had time to abuse it. Probably that dad.
RiverRat
01-27-2008, 08:25 AM
Welcome to WBS - not for the faint of heart. Day in and Day Out. And just when you think you've heard it all, tomorrow's news is posted.
As I said......:(
wildTrose
01-27-2008, 09:43 AM
They should make each person in the house at the time take a lie detector test! One of them is guilty.
southcitymom
01-27-2008, 09:51 AM
They should make each person in the house at the time take a lie detector test! One of them is guilty.
Because they have been deemed too fallible, results of lie detector tests aren't admissable in court - so that wouldn't help the case at all.
Indy Gal
01-27-2008, 11:18 AM
Seems as if they just wanted to nail this on the dad from the get go. I felt something was fishy and am sad and glad. Sad because now we may never get justice for this baby, But glad because the judge didnt just let them go on a hunch. Someone hurt this baby, but deep down I dont think it was the dad.
Reannan
01-27-2008, 11:27 AM
The mother was the one who found this baby laying on her chest. Her story has never made sense to me. The father's attack on the mother as they rode to the hospital, the mother being the one to implicate a curling iron, ......hmmmm.....
Indy Gal
01-27-2008, 11:43 AM
The mother was the one who found this baby laying on her chest. Her story has never made sense to me. The father's attack on the mother as they rode to the hospital, the mother being the one to implicate a curling iron, ......hmmmm.....
Maybe she did it to get back at him for something. I have been wanting to say that but have waited till the evidence came out. Doesnt seem as though she liked him very much. I dont know though
Salem
01-27-2008, 12:34 PM
Seems as if they just wanted to nail this on the dad from the get go. I felt something was fishy and am sad and glad. Sad because now we may never get justice for this baby, But glad because the judge didnt just let them go on a hunch. Someone hurt this baby, but deep down I dont think it was the dad.
I agree Indy Gal. I saw the dad on a video or the news and he just kept saying "I didn't do it, check the DNA, give me a lie detector test, I didn't do it" and he seemed sincerely upset about the loss of the baby. There was something about the whole thing that made me think he probably did not do it. I'm glad the Judge held the police accountable. It is a horrible crime and I am sure the police were touched by it and wanted to make someone responsible. Also, I don't think the police will give up on this one. They will find the evidence to bring charges against the right person. I firmly believe there was at least one cop who was totally touched by this and will not let it go until she/he finds the right answer.
And I agree with other posters - mom is probably the very next place to look.
Salem
southcitymom
01-27-2008, 01:53 PM
Y'all - refresh my memory because I'm too lazy to go back through the thread - is this the case where there may even be some question as to whether or not the baby was sexually assaulted at all?
Reannan
01-27-2008, 02:01 PM
Southcitymom, I suppose you would call it sexual assault because something large was placed in her rectum to the point that she had internal bleeding and the "septicemia" part tells me, they probably perforated her colon so that bowel contents spread into the peritoneal cavity (area below the lungs where the stomach, liver, kidneys, etc. sit). This is the equivalent of being "gut shot" where the contents of the intestines cause such a massive infection that you can't survive it. The part I am not sure about, is the "sexual" nature of this crime. Early investigations centered around a curling iron that was thougth to perhaps have been the "weapon". The mother could have done this in a fit of rage, especially if she were crazy high on drugs, and used the curling iron incident to "frame" the dad. I hope they keep investigating..... there were limited people in that house, and someone knows more than they are saying. Wonder if the mom and dad are still together??
southcitymom
01-27-2008, 02:33 PM
Southcitymom, I suppose you would call it sexual assault because something large was placed in her rectum to the point that she had internal bleeding and the "septicemia" part tells me, they probably perforated her colon so that bowel contents spread into the peritoneal cavity (area below the lungs where the stomach, liver, kidneys, etc. sit). This is the equivalent of being "gut shot" where the contents of the intestines cause such a massive infection that you can't survive it. The part I am not sure about, is the "sexual" nature of this crime. Early investigations centered around a curling iron that was thougth to perhaps have been the "weapon". The mother could have done this in a fit of rage, especially if she were crazy high on drugs, and used the curling iron incident to "frame" the dad. I hope they keep investigating..... there were limited people in that house, and someone knows more than they are saying. Wonder if the mom and dad are still together??
Thank you for clarifying that, Reannan. I do recall the curling iron being investigated.
luthersmama
01-27-2008, 02:43 PM
Were there other children in the house? I could believe that a kid might go poking at the baby
Reannan
01-28-2008, 12:00 AM
I recall that there were other children in the house, but they were young!!! Does anyone else recall how young??? I don't think a young child would do this magnitude of crime for a first offense. Plus, there was hatred in this crime.....against who - well, that may answer the question. I believe the mother was furious at the dad, and at being a mom, and at the child..... Where is the lie detector results of her????
dimples37398
01-28-2008, 01:56 AM
I agree, something isn't right here. I know some people are very convincing when lying, but this guy just seemed really to want to clear his name from get go.
Not only did he want to take a lie detector test immediately, but he took one and didn't refuse. Can we say that about the mom?
We seen the reports or article where his family said he threatened her that if the baby wasn't his that he would hurt someone. Was the baby not his and she wanted to get rid of the baby so he wouldn't find out?
Maybe she wanted to get back at him any way possible, and she didn't want the baby anyways?
Is it just my imagination or did I read somewhere that she stuffed cocaine up her while pregnant? As well as the baby being born with amounts of cocaine in her system??? It seems I definately read it somewhere.
believe09
01-28-2008, 09:00 AM
I have been one of the most outspoken individuals on this thread about the father's guilt, and I am completely humbled by the generosity and objectivity of other's including the judge in this case. Perhaps dad was too easy a target to let go of, and like me LE did not want for a moment to imagine a mother could injure her wee child to this extent. I think the speculation regarding cocaine balloons and the baby make good sense-even if it was just an attempt to make the infant prepared to carry something in her rectum. I think that there is an inherent evil in the person who did this and they have to face some kind of justice. LE needs to go back and run tox screens on baby Neveah to see if any balloons were inserted or even if someone doing illegal drugs might have touched her with residue on their hands...it is a learning curve here on WS that is for sure.
southcitymom
01-28-2008, 03:20 PM
I have been one of the most outspoken individuals on this thread about the father's guilt, and I am completely humbled by the generosity and objectivity of other's including the judge in this case. Perhaps dad was too easy a target to let go of, and like me LE did not want for a moment to imagine a mother could injure her wee child to this extent. I think the speculation regarding cocaine balloons and the baby make good sense-even if it was just an attempt to make the infant prepared to carry something in her rectum. I think that there is an inherent evil in the person who did this and they have to face some kind of justice. LE needs to go back and run tox screens on baby Neveah to see if any balloons were inserted or even if someone doing illegal drugs might have touched her with residue on their hands...it is a learning curve here on WS that is for sure.
Don't feel bad, honey! It took me years to accept that Darlie Routier was guilty - and there's a whole lot more evidence pointing towards Mom's guilt in that case than in this one!
I think that most of us here would agree that males are more likely to sexually assault children than females - and this case was first reported as a sexual assault and the father had domestic violence charges. There was a good reason to look long and hard at the Dad, but obviously there is more here than meets the eye.
believe09
01-28-2008, 03:36 PM
Thanks, SCM-:blowkiss:
I will survive my emotional response, unlike the precious baby. The more I think about it the more it makes sense to re-run Neveah's labs to look for more cocaine...
Indy Gal
01-28-2008, 04:46 PM
Thanks, SCM-:blowkiss:
I will survive my emotional response, unlike the precious baby. The more I think about it the more it makes sense to re-run Neveah's labs to look for more cocaine...
I had never thought that they could be doing that:eek: But it would make sense
Beffie
01-30-2008, 02:40 PM
Prosecutors will appeal decision in baby's death
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/013008/loc_20080130014.shtml
paddy01
01-30-2008, 02:49 PM
Thanks Beffie,
We shall see...
Beffie
02-06-2008, 09:11 AM
Father of dead infant jailed on assault charge.
Wasn't his mother against him in the beginning? Now she cannot wait for her children to be reunited. I wonder what happened that made her change her mind.
http://www.thenewsherald.com/stories/020608/loc_20080206004.shtml
Richardson seemed much more upbeat at yesterday's court hearing than he has in the past, where at times he has screamed obscenities while vehemently denying having anything to do with assaulting his daughter.
Yesterday, he was smiling and motioning to friends and family in the gallery to call him.
His younger brother, Jacob, broke down in tears during the hearing and had to be consoled by his mother, Adie Green.
Outside of the courthouse, Green said she was happy that her children soon will be reunited.
"I'm glad he's getting out," she said. "Now they need to look at who really did this."
believe09
02-06-2008, 09:17 AM
how bizarre-I think that someone needs to start from scratch and find out what happened...
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