Stacy Ann Peterson, Bolingbrook IL #9

[CW]

#8 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56345

#7 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56117

#6 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56008

#5 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55978

#4 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55919

#3 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55851

#2 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55720

#1 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55533

[Mygirlsadie]

These are very dangerous people...

[DeltaDawn]

These are very dangerous people...

Yes they are very dangerous. I still wonder if this guy who helped move the barrel had a little push from Drew to commit suicide or if he happened upon that idea himself?

I am still wondering about the kids in the house on Sunday..how did he accomplish all this with 2 very young children and 2 teens in the house? And he told the little ones Mom is on vacation..how does he explain she hasn't called them to say hi sweeties? How does he explain all the news media to the little ones and not being able to play outside?

[Trino]

[QUOTE=DeltaDawn;1818803]I am still wondering about the kids in the house on Sunday..how did he accomplish all this with 2 very young children and 2 teens in the house? And he told the little ones Mom is on vacation..how does he explain she hasn't called them to say hi sweeties? How does he explain all the news media to the little ones and not being able to play outside?/QUOTE]

I wonder about the kids now. Are they in school? Surely, they watch TV, and know what's going on.

[SuziQ]

The Today Show
Did Stacy run away like her mom?

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=...0-00a6c5b1812d (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=73f397f9-e45c-46aa-b260-00a6c5b1812d)

[DeltaDawn]

Suze Q I am deleting my quotes above and then if you delete yours we can start again?

[SuziQ]

Suze Q I am deleting my quotes above and then if you delete yours we can start again?

Done!

[DeltaDawn]

This whole story so far not one TV commentator has come forward to say that Drew is innocent, that Stacy would have followed in her Mom's footsteps or that Stacy is on a little retreat of her own. No one has even stepped up to the role of devil's advocate..which shows us and Drew all signs point to Drew being the perp.

Infact, Stacy's behavior is almost 100% opposite of her Mother's behavior. She was a loving mother and friend. She was not in trouble with the police, she was not an alcoholic like her Mom. Therefore she was not about to runaway..divorce and move away from Drew yes..runaway, no way.

[Taximom]

DrewP still has Steve Carcerano in his pocket for some reason. Other than that, DeltaDawn, I agree with you.

[curiositycat]

Taxi I have been thinking that Steve Carcerano may have been involved in a payoff. I know it's speculation, but it's the only thing in my mind that makes sense.:confused:


DrewP still has Steve Carcerano in his pocket for some reason. Other than that, DeltaDawn, I agree with you.

[TGIRecovered]

I think the barrell helper guy has to be someone with more of a concience than Mucha. Someone so used to lies and corruption would probably react to the news that the barrell he helped move contained Stacy's body by coming up with an alibi or ratting on Drew to cover his own butt.
I think that whoever it is had some very compelling reason NOT to tell on Drew...like parents who would never forgive him for telling the truth and a wife who would divorce him for helping Drew in the first place. I think this person was horrified when he realized Stacy must have been in that barrell and that he was now Drew's accomplice in murder, but he felt he could not tell on Drew without being shamed and shunned by his family, who would expect him to keep his mouth shut and protect Drew.
IMO it is a brother or grown son. It is someone who is not a killer and he is disgusted with himself for being so foolish and can't live with the lie.

Susan

[Camper]

I think the barrell helper guy has to be someone with more of a concience than Mucha. Someone so used to lies and corruption would probably react to the news that the barrell he helped move contained Stacy's body by coming up with an alibi or ratting on Drew to cover his own butt.
I think that whoever it is had some very compelling reason NOT to tell on Drew...like parents who would never forgive him for telling the truth and a wife who would divorce him for helping Drew in the first place. I think this person was horrified when he realized Stacy must have been in that barrell and that he was now Drew's accomplice in murder, but he felt he could not tell on Drew without being shamed and shunned by his family, who would expect him to keep his mouth shut and protect Drew.
IMO it is a brother or grown son. It is someone who is not a killer and he is disgusted with himself for being so foolish and can't live with the lie.

Susan



--->>>You have a great post here and theory. Why would such a person have taken the $25,000.00 OR OR was it someone else who did the 'hiding' or 'disposal' of the barrel and contents for money?


IF IF there is a person in the hospital who helped move the barrel, and he is only saying he helped MOVE the barrel, WHY would he try to kill himself for merely 'helping to move a barrel', he must have disposed of the body with or without Drew AND has the money somewhere. IMOP.

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[DeltaDawn]

Because maybe this person is a person with a past that has straightened out that part of their life. Now Drew appears in their life again with a request. Maybe they feel like Drew and their past life is a monkey on their back, one they just will never shake. Usually suicidial thoughts come when people think there is no other way out..maybe Drew gave this person that impression that he'll always be asking for favors to do horrible things..it isn't ever gonna end not until the day you die. Drew is very manipulative..I'm sure he knows just the right things to say to certain unsavory elements to get their attention. Especially if those people are trying to get their life straightened out..those are the people he would want to have a hold over because they could suddenly start confessiong and Drew could go right on down with them. So he needs to keep them involved in his little games.

Also, the $25K is meaningless to me because Drew said it was from the home safe. First of all, who other then Drew could verify how much money was ever in his home safe? I think that was said by Drew so that people wouldn't question her not using checks, ATM cards or withdrawing money from their bank account. It was part of the story where Stacy is running away with another man..so far not one part of that story has proven to be true.

[Taximom]

Taxi I have been thinking that Steve Carcerano may have been involved in a payoff. I know it's speculation, but it's the only thing in my mind that makes sense.:confused:

It's the strangest relationship. I can't help but wonder if DP doesn't have something on him.

I guess we'll find out in 5-10 years when SC decides to go "Kato" on DrewP, like Kato did with OJ. :loser:

[SieSie]

Also, the $25K is meaningless to me because Drew said it was from the home safe. First of all, who other then Drew could verify how much money was ever in his home safe? I think that was said by Drew so that people wouldn't question her not using checks, ATM cards or withdrawing money from their bank account. It was part of the story where Stacy is running away with another man..so far not one part of that story has proven to be true.
Excellent point, DeltaDawn!! Do we KNOW there was really $25k in the safe??

[close_enough]

I think the barrell helper guy has to be someone with more of a concience than Mucha. Someone so used to lies and corruption would probably react to the news that the barrell he helped move contained Stacy's body by coming up with an alibi or ratting on Drew to cover his own butt.
I think that whoever it is had some very compelling reason NOT to tell on Drew...like parents who would never forgive him for telling the truth and a wife who would divorce him for helping Drew in the first place. I think this person was horrified when he realized Stacy must have been in that barrell and that he was now Drew's accomplice in murder, but he felt he could not tell on Drew without being shamed and shunned by his family, who would expect him to keep his mouth shut and protect Drew.
IMO it is a brother or grown son. It is someone who is not a killer and he is disgusted with himself for being so foolish and can't live with the lie.

Susan

that's what i'm thinking also...

[Tom'sGirl]

http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/ (http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/)
Quoting my own post to reflect a working link

http://search2.foxnews.com/search?a...01.235&start=10 (http://search2.foxnews.com/search?a...01.235&start=10)

Drew's mother mentions her younger son. This could be DP's step or half brother????

[i.b.nora]

Your link doesn't work.

I think this will work. It's a link to Jamie Colby's interview with Mrs Morphey, Drew's mother.

Drew Peterson’s Mom Speaks Out in a Fox Exclusive (http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/10/drew-petersons-mom-speaks-out-in-a-fox-exclusive/)

[DeltaDawn]

I thought too he might have step relations because with his mom having a different last name then Peterson it seems likely she married again. And most people in her age group would have grown children of their own. Meaning she would have married again, someone within her age group...unless she pulled a Drew and was dating high school football stars!?!

[Tom'sGirl]

Your link doesn't work.

I think this will work. It's a link to Jamie Colby's interview with Mrs Morphey, Drew's mother.

Drew Peterson’s Mom Speaks Out in a Fox Exclusive (http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/10/drew-petersons-mom-speaks-out-in-a-fox-exclusive/)
Thank you i.b.nora. My orignal link to JC site was no longer there when I went to review what I had heard. Then I found the link to Fox.com videos and it worked fine this morning..............shish, thanks again.

[Littledeer]

The $25,000 amount that DP said Stacy took, has always stuck in my mind. Why that amount??? How did he know???

I had theorized at one time somewhere that $25,000 was the amount that he paid someone to help him out with disposing Stacy (whether he knew it was Stacy in a barrel or whatever, of he OUTRIGHT helped DP out with Stacy's body) is something I don't know.

DD:

Because maybe this person is a person with a past that has straightened out that part of their life. Now Drew appears in their life again with a request. Maybe they feel like Drew and their past life is a monkey on their back, one they just will never shake. Usually suicidial thoughts come when people think there is no other way out..maybe Drew gave this person that impression that he'll always be asking for favors to do horrible things..it isn't ever gonna end not until the day you die. Drew is very manipulative..I'm sure he knows just the right things to say to certain unsavory elements to get their attention. Especially if those people are trying to get their life straightened out..those are the people he would want to have a hold over because they could suddenly start confessiong and Drew could go right on down with them. So he needs to keep them involved in his little games.

Also, the $25K is meaningless to me because Drew said it was from the home safe. First of all, who other then Drew could verify how much money was ever in his home safe? I think that was said by Drew so that people wouldn't question her not using checks, ATM cards or withdrawing money from their bank account. It was part of the story where Stacy is running away with another man..so far not one part of that story has proven to be true.
__________________
This is exactly what I have thought many times, but just didn't know how to say it here.

Obviously, I haven't gotten the "copy" thing down yet.

[mysteriew]

I can see Drew P involving an innocent person. I just don't know what would be a good enough excuse to convince an innocent person why there would be a barrel in a bedroom and why it needed to be moved.
So maybe an innocent person that Drew P had some type of hold over- maybe blackmail or a person who feared Drew P for some reason.

If they were feeling guilty and scared enough to commit suicide, why didn't they go to LE in the first place. Emotional ties would explain part of it, but I can't imagine emotional ties strong enough to make a person commit suicide rather than to turn Drew P in.

[Littledeer]

myster:

I did not think it was a family member to begin with, but now with reading a "person" has tried to commit suicide, I am rethinking that thought.

Someone that DP might have paid off would not (IM0) commit suicide once he/she thought that they had a part in Stacy's death/removal, but a family member would.

How many of us could look at our Mom/Dad, brothers, sisters, etc. and have to say..................I helped out my brother?????

I haven't heard from Ric or Steve in a while, so I am still hoping/thinking it was one of them and they got out from the hospital and have been helping along????????

[SeekingJana]

myster:

I did not think it was a family member to begin with, but now with reading a "person" has tried to commit suicide, I am rethinking that thought.

Someone that DP might have paid off would not (IM0) commit suicide once he/she thought that they had a part in Stacy's death/removal, but a family member would.

How many of us could look at our Mom/Dad, brothers, sisters, etc. and have to say..................I helped out my brother?????

I haven't heard from Ric or Steve in a while, so I am still hoping/thinking it was one of them and they got out from the hospital and have been helping along????????

I moved my post which Myster was replying to to the Blue Barrel thread.
However, since the comments are here, my thoughts are that the person DID involve LE from the beginning.
LE released the info regarding a " Blue barrel" very very early in the investigation.

I think there is only ONE sociopath involved in this and related cases, and it's DP. Not any person who may have aided him in disposing of Stacy's body, unaware.
I also think this is why LE has released a specific search site area to the public and why Equusearch released the photo of A blue barrel ( not THE blue barrel) to the local TV news station.

They KNOW pretty much what she was put into and where it was dumped from the testimony of the person who asisted DP in his gruesome task of disposal. JMO.

[close_enough]

just an FYI

...per the guy with the name rmucha, over at ctv....he states that Steve, DP's son, is not out of the country, & is working....

[Littledeer]

Jana:

Your right about the blue barrel being released early in the case. It was first mentioned on 11/3 in Thread #2.

Stacy went missing on 10/28 (SOMEONE SEND ME A VERY MEAN PM IF THAT DATE IS WRONG!)

Who the heck is this rmucha person??? Link for greta please??

[close_enough]

Jana:

Your right about the blue barrel being released early in the case. It was first mentioned on 11/3 in Thread #2.

Stacy went missing on 10/28 (SOMEONE SEND ME A VERY MEAN PM IF THAT DATE IS WRONG!)

Who the heck is this rmucha person??? Link for greta please??

here ya go..

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1816621

[close_enough]

just an FYI

...per the guy with the name rmucha, over at ctv....he states that Steve, DP's son, is not out of the country, & is working....

i just left a question for this rmucha, asking if Steve was EVER out of the country on vacation....they haven't answered yet..

[TGIRecovered]

just an FYI

...per the guy with the name rmucha, over at ctv....he states that Steve, DP's son, is not out of the country, & is working....

Could it be possible that if Steve is the person who Drew duped in to helping with the barrell, LE let Drew think Steve went ahead with his plans to leave on vacation but really they kept him close by to help with the investigation?
Maybe Drew chose Steve because he thought that since Steve was leaving town shortly, he wouldn't be around if police started questioning family members. Remember, when DP moved the barrell, he still may have thought that his story about her leaving would keep police at bay longer than it actually did. Drew did not expect the poop to hit the fan so quickly. Steve probably did not even know Stacy was missing until the next day.

[dottierainbow]

I heard on Fox it may have been Drew's step brother that helped remove barrel. Who is the step brother?

[Littledeer]

TGI:

Don't give away things! :):)

Could it be possible that if Steve is the person who Drew duped in to helping with the barrell, LE let Drew think Steve went ahead with his plans to leave on vacation but really they kept him close by to help with the investigation?

You never know who is reading! This is very possible..............or it could be someone else!! (I know the media is saying family member...........but I am not buying it).

[close_enough]

Could it be possible that if Steve is the person who Drew duped in to helping with the barrell, LE let Drew think Steve went ahead with his plans to leave on vacation but really they kept him close by to help with the investigation?
Maybe Drew chose Steve because he thought that since Steve was leaving town shortly, he wouldn't be around if police started questioning family members. Remember, when DP moved the barrell, he still may have thought that his story about her leaving would keep police at bay longer than it actually did. Drew did not expect the poop to hit the fan so quickly. Steve probably did not even know Stacy was missing until the next day.

hmmmm, guess it's possible!

[TGIRecovered]

As far as the theory that Drew killed Stacy elsewhere, that would have eliminated the need to have help moving the barrell from the bedroom.
Putting the nightstand or other items in the barrell to get rid of them makes no sense to me since it looks much more suspicious to be moving a big blue barrell than it would look to just break it in to a couple of pieces and toss it a box to get rid of it.
I think the most practical reason for the barrell is to move the body.

I believe the kids must have known not to disobey or question DP since he is so violent. I don't believe for a minute that man had kids because he loves them so much. He needs them to feed his self-image. they are possesions to him, to be used to control the woman in his life. Kids keep her busy so he can be free to do as he pleases and he uses them to keep her from leaving. Those poor children are his pawns.

Susan

[TGIRecovered]

TGI:

Don't give away things! :):)

Could it be possible that if Steve is the person who Drew duped in to helping with the barrell, LE let Drew think Steve went ahead with his plans to leave on vacation but really they kept him close by to help with the investigation?

You never know who is reading! This is very possible..............or it could be someone else!! (I know the media is saying family member...........but I am not buying it).


oopsie! Does Drew still have his computers? :waitasec:

Oh, hello Mr. Brodsky!:razz:

Susan

[DeltaDawn]

Drew's computer and ohter computers were removed from the home by LE..I'm sure he has another computer by now though. Drew would have valued the children over anyone else except himself..to him they were little me's. He kept reproducing because he needed the power over so many wives, and to know that there were so many little me's of his out thee. It isn't the way you and I think, but it is the way narcistic people think..it is very much ego driven..they aren't children as much as a product that they have produced that is second only to them.

[Leila]

Your link doesn't work.

I think this will work. It's a link to Jamie Colby's interview with Mrs Morphey, Drew's mother.

Drew Peterson’s Mom Speaks Out in a Fox Exclusive (http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/10/drew-petersons-mom-speaks-out-in-a-fox-exclusive/)

In that interview, Betty Morphey mentioned that her husband has had a heart attack this year and she's trying to keep all this away from him, so her husband is still alive, but recovering from a heart attack.

[itsreenw]

I heard on Fox it may have been Drew's step brother that helped remove barrel. Who is the step brother?

go to the blue barrel thread for details

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com...images-13.jpeg (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/27/breaking-news-8/2305/)
I just got word from OTR Producer Steph Watts in Bolingbrook, Illinois that he and Mark Fuhrman have just gottn a very, very, very important scoop!
What is it? I will let one of them tell you….at 10pm eastern tonight ….ON THE RECORD…..and, after you hear this, you tell me, am I right? is this a big deal in the investigation?
DON’T FORGET - WE NOW HAVE ON GretaWire A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN POST ANONYMOUS TIPS TO HELP US INVESTIGATE OUR STORIES!!! (CHECK THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF GretaWire!)

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11...eaking-news-8/ (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/27/breaking-news-8/)

[DeltaDawn]

Since Thomas has been named now, I would suspect that one of the kids said Uncle Thomas was here Sunday and helped Dad move some things?

Still wondering what Drew did with Stacy's things that normally would have gone with her even on a car ride and painting party...eye glasses /contacts, her purse, her wallet, her house and car keys..maybe they are disposed of separately from the body..dumpsters he knew would be picked up soon.

[SeriouslySearching]

Still wondering what Drew did with Stacy's things that normally would have gone with her even on a car ride and painting party...eye glasses /contacts, her purse, her wallet, her house and car keys..maybe they are disposed of separately from the body..dumpsters he knew would be picked up soon.No..he did nothing. What is missing actually will probably be the bikini. You KNOW where I think that is!

[Tom'sGirl]

Since Thomas has been named now, [QUOTE]I would suspect that one of the kids said Uncle Thomas was here Sunday and helped Dad move some things?

I tend to agreee Delta.

On another issue, anyone who has three anti-depressants, including Zoloft and Zanax on hand to try to over-dose on has been dealing with some serious issues.

[DeltaDawn]

Thomas sure did have issues before this if he was on that kind of meds..then throw in a few cocktails and that boy wouldn't know where he was or what he did........on the otherhand, people do build up their tolerance to these drugs..but I bet after he realized what he had helped do he went out of his mind and kept taking more to numb the pain of knowing he had really gone way over the line with Drew this time.

I don't think he was any stranger to Drew's dirty deals if he worked for Drew in Drew's bar where supposedly drug deals went down all the time. I just think he never realized that Drew was capable of murder until now. I think he has been talking with LE about the past as well as the present. Cleansing is so good for the soul..

And now Drew's comments about going to jail make more sense..he knows that Thomas put two and two togehter and he knows the police have been talking to Thomas ..I 'm sure Drew still knows dirty cops on other forces that relay info to him. I tm must be a scary time for all those SOB's now that Thomas is starting to talk.

[JerzWhim]

..I 'm sure Drew still knows dirty cops on other forces that relay info to him. I tm must be a scary time for all those SOB's now that Thomas is starting to talk.

I agree that he knows dirty cops. It is my experience though that when things get hot for bad cops, the other rats take a step back from the heat. They have nothing to gain by staying in contact with him. Gotta protect that pension, you know.

[indallas2]

by Greta Van Susteren
http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com...images-13.jpeg (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/27/breaking-news-8/2305/)
I just got word from OTR Producer Steph Watts in Bolingbrook, Illinois that he and Mark Fuhrman have just gottn a very, very, very important scoop!
What is it? I will let one of them tell you….at 10pm eastern tonight ….ON THE RECORD…..and, after you hear this, you tell me, am I right? is this a big deal in the investigation?
DON’T FORGET - WE NOW HAVE ON GretaWire A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN POST ANONYMOUS TIPS TO HELP US INVESTIGATE OUR STORIES!!! (CHECK THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF GretaWire!)

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11...eaking-news-8/

WOW, can't wait for Greta tonight.

I just want to say that I've been lurking the last week reading everything on here about this case and all I have to say is that I hope LE is watching DP closely - seems like his walls are caving in slowly.

Thanks to everyone who posts updates during the day. I really appreciate it since I have to work. It's nice to be able to come here and just click and see what the new news is on this case.

[Vegas Bride]

I hope his step brother is very careful, IMO other people who get in the way have a tendency to die, he's now just a liability and needs to go away like the others.

VB

[dee10134]

[quote=DeltaDawn;1820204]Since Thomas has been named now,

I tend to agreee Delta.

On another issue, anyone who has three anti-depressants, including Zoloft and Zanax on hand to try to over-dose on has been dealing with some serious issues.

How do you know they were HIS anti-depressants? Maybe his wife was also on an anti-depressant or a teenage child of his?

Just because you're on an anti-depressant doesn't necessarily mean you're dealing with some SERIOUS issues. Why does the term "anti-depressant" make people automatically think someone is crazy?! :doh:

[dee10134]

I hope his step brother is very careful, IMO other people who get in the way have a tendency to die, he's now just a liability and needs to go away like the others.

VB

Some reports refer to him as his HALF-brother...

[curiositycat]

I was thinking the same thing. Someone in that family will shut him up quickly would be my guess.


I hope his step brother is very careful, IMO other people who get in the way have a tendency to die, he's now just a liability and needs to go away like the others.

VB

[TGIRecovered]

[quote=Tom'sGirl;1820242]

How do you know they were HIS anti-depressants? Maybe his wife was also on an anti-depressant or a teenage child of his?

Just because you're on an anti-depressant doesn't necessarily mean you're dealing with some SERIOUS issues. Why does the term "anti-depressant" make people automatically think someone is crazy?! :doh:

This is true. Many people benefit from taking an antidepressant, and a good doctor will monitor a patient closely at first to see if they have prescribed the best one for that particular patient, which means a person could have the leftovers of a couple of different drugs that the doc prescribed before they found which one worked the best.
Still, I suspect Drew had something to do with either supplying some of the drugs and alcohol or encouraging Thomas to over-indulge.

Susan

[JerzWhim]

I hope his step brother is very careful, IMO other people who get in the way have a tendency to die, he's now just a liability and needs to go away like the others.

VB

Right now, I believe Drew is being watched too closely to cause any more deaths. Nonetheless, I'd keep my distance if I was the half-brother. After all, the media will eventually have to go away.

[RandyMucha]

Randy Mucha (user name Sgt538) likes expensive sports cars and him and his family are all over the net:

www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/randyvettes (http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/randyvettes)

www.feeds4all.com/Item.aspx?ItemID=16436088 (http://www.feeds4all.com/Item.aspx?ItemID=16436088)

www.randymucha.com (http://www.randymucha.com)

Wedding pics:
http://family.webshots.com/album/105493010tsEGmZ

I haven't used sgt538 in a long time. I usually use RMucha now.

[DeltaDawn]

[quote=dee10134;1821395

How do you know they were HIS anti-depressants? Maybe his wife was also on an anti-depressant or a teenage child of his?

Just because you're on an anti-depressant doesn't necessarily mean you're dealing with some SERIOUS issues. Why does the term "anti-depressant" make people automatically think someone is crazy?! :doh:[/quote]

We don't know Dee, but we do know that he did od on 3 different types of anti-depressants and alcohol..we don't even know for sure if it was actually a suicide attempt or he just od'ed.

We do know that according to Charlie Doman, Kathy's nephew that worked ewith Thomas at Drew's bar that Thomas was a heavy drinker at the time, and was very concerned about what Drew thought of him.

We also have heard that this bar was a known hangout for drug dealers and other types.

So put that combo together, your step brother is a cop, owning a bar, where drugs are dealt openly. You are the manager. You care what Drew thinks of yu, you are his step brother.

All of those things combined are enough to give a person a reason to be on anxiety and anti depressant meds. No one was bashing the step brother....more like I would have issues if I had to be related to Drew the bully, manage his bar, and watch is illegal activities..and it was the only job I had..so I 'd have to keep the boss happy at that point in time. No matter what that meant.

[SeriouslySearching]

Now Drew's attorney is stating the relative could be living in a fantasy world. Sheesh! They don't want to simply discredit this guy...they want to paint him as a complete nut job! We know who the real nut job is, Brodsky! Turn around and take a closer look at your client! (Besides...the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...you know!) This makes Drew look and sound totally sane (sarcasm): On Tuesday, Peterson emerged from his suburban Chicago home with a hand-held video camera and told the horde of reporters surrounding his house that they made him feel like a prisoner.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, denied anyone helped Peterson move any container from the home and claimed the family member in question has a history of mental problems.

"I don't know what world (the family member) is living in, our world, his world or if he's veering back and forth between the real world and whatever fantasy world he's living in," Brodsky told The Associated Press.
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1107/476159.html

How does Brodsky plan on discrediting the neighbor that saw this and that Cassandra can testify she saw the container inside his garage which is now mysteriously missing? Is he going to say they are crazy, too?!

[mysteriew]

I haven't used sgt538 in a long time. I usually use RMucha now.

ROFL!!! Welcome to WS!

[RandyMucha]

ROFL!!! Welcome to WS!

Thanks! I'll be around.

Randy

[Leila]

Some reports refer to him as his HALF-brother...

I think Thomas Morphey may be a half-brother. It appears that DP's mother, Betty, married a man named Peterson and had Drew, Paul, and Laura. She then married Albert Morphey and had John C. Morphey who's now age 41, and Thomas C. Morphey who's now age 40. So both John C. and Thomas C. Morphey would be DP's half brothers.

In an audio interview with DP's mother, Betty, she said that this has been hard on her husband, Albert, as he had a heart attack this year.

[swanniee11]

then who is steve peterson?

[sweetmop]

We don't know Dee, but we do know that he did od on 3 different types of anti-depressants and alcohol..we don't even know for sure if it was actually a suicide attempt or he just od'ed.

We do know that according to Charlie Doman, Kathy's nephew that worked ewith Thomas at Drew's bar that Thomas was a heavy drinker at the time, and was very concerned about what Drew thought of him.

We also have heard that this bar was a known hangout for drug dealers and other types.

So put that combo together, your step brother is a cop, owning a bar, where drugs are dealt openly. You are the manager. You care what Drew thinks of yu, you are his step brother.

All of those things combined are enough to give a person a reason to be on anxiety and anti depressant meds. No one was bashing the step brother....more like I would have issues if I had to be related to Drew the bully, manage his bar, and watch is illegal activities..and it was the only job I had..so I 'd have to keep the boss happy at that point in time. No matter what that meant.

I earlier heard it reported that step brother od'd on Xanax and Zoloft.
Zoloft is an antidepressant and Xanax ix a controlled narcotic, a sedative like Valium or Ativan. I didn't hear about a 3rd drug.

I do agree that an antidepressant does not mean the person is nuts, crazy, or psychotic. An anti depressant actually alligns your brain chemistry with supportive amounts of serotonin, whch if your body is low on seratonin, you will feel depressed. Antidepressants are not controlled drugs, not a narcotic.
Taking a prescribed antidepressant each day does not mean one is unstable! It is a means of controlling the debilitating features of a disease. Depression is a disease. And there are different categories of the disease.

I'm sure poor Stacey needed an antidepressant due to 1. Depression is an inherited disease in families ( her mother ) 2. She had recently lost a sister to cancer 3. She was living with a controlling abusive a**h**e!

[Leila]

Now Drew's attorney is stating the relative could be living in a fantasy world. Sheesh! They don't want to simply discredit this guy...they want to paint him as a complete nut job! We know who the real nut job is, Brodsky! Turn around and take a closer look at your client! (Besides...the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...you know!) This makes Drew look and sound totally sane (sarcasm): On Tuesday, Peterson emerged from his suburban Chicago home with a hand-held video camera and told the horde of reporters surrounding his house that they made him feel like a prisoner.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, denied anyone helped Peterson move any container from the home and claimed the family member in question has a history of mental problems.

"I don't know what world (the family member) is living in, our world, his world or if he's veering back and forth between the real world and whatever fantasy world he's living in," Brodsky told The Associated Press.
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1107/476159.html

How does Brodsky plan on discrediting the neighbor that saw this and that Cassandra can testify she saw the container inside his garage which is now mysteriously missing? Is he going to say they are crazy, too?!

SeriouslySearching...........that's exactly what I was thinking! Irregardless of what Thomas Morphey reported, how the heck does DP explain away the neighbor who saw him and an unidentified man move a blue barrel. And how does explain that Cassandra saw a blue barrel in the garage two weeks prior to Stacy's disappearance and asked about it, with Stacy said Drew bought it and it's pool chlorine? I remember another report from a neighbor too, that said there was a blue barrel in the backyard and now it's gone.

[RandyMucha]

then who is steve peterson?

Steve is Drew's adult son. He is married and is a cop in Oak Brook.

[nanandjim]

Steve is Drew's adult son. He is married and is a cop in Oak Brook.
He's the son that still has a relationship with his father, right? Can you tell me about the other son and why he cut ties with Drew? Does he still associate with Steve? Did Steve know about Stacy? I read that Drew went to his wedding without Stacy. I wonder why that was??

[sweetmop]

SeriouslySearching...........that's exactly what I was thinking! Irregardless of what Thomas Morphey reported, how the heck does DP explain away the neighbor who saw him and an unidentified man move a blue barrel. And how does explain that Cassandra saw a blue barrel in the garage two weeks prior to Stacy's disappearance and asked about it, with Stacy said Drew bought it and it's pool chlorine? I remember another report from a neighbor too, that said there was a blue barrel in the backyard and now it's gone.


I think ole Drew just lies through his teeth and smirks that smirky smirk.
Lieing is second nature to him, obviously. He will say that the neighbor is mistaken, hallucinating or pms-ing

And it is so obvious DP set up the step brother, probably threatened him while he was recouperating in the hospital. And then tells his attorney, the step brother has some mental issues.
What a great guy !:furious:

[RandyMucha]

He's the son that still has a relationship with his father, right? Can you tell me about the other son and why he cut ties with Drew? Does he still associate with Steve? Did Steve know about Stacy? I read that Drew went to his wedding without Stacy. I wonder why that was??

Steve still sees his Dad. Steve had the 4 kids for a while when this first started. I don't know anything about the rest of the family / extended families. Steve's wedding was a civil ceremony before a Judge. They wanted to save their money. I don't even know if Drew was there or not. Steve had a BBQ for all his friends at his house in lieu of a reception.

[nanandjim]

[quote=dee10134;1821395]

This is true. Many people benefit from taking an antidepressant, and a good doctor will monitor a patient closely at first to see if they have prescribed the best one for that particular patient, which means a person could have the leftovers of a couple of different drugs that the doc prescribed before they found which one worked the best.
Still, I suspect Drew had something to do with either supplying some of the drugs and alcohol or encouraging Thomas to over-indulge.

Susan
I also think that Drew may have given Thomas some drugs for his help. I too believe that he was set up as a patsy by Drew. I just hope that the cops and the FBI close in on this smug SOB. He thinks that he is above the law and smarter than everyone. The only that he didn't bank on was this national attention.

I feel certain that Drew's little plan was to say that Stacy left. I'm not even sure that he would have filed a misisng person's report (if the sister hadn't). Thousands of people go missing every day. Drew hid the body well. Stacy would be long gone, like her mother. Drew would go on with his life.

I just hope that he spends the rest of his life either behind bars or on death row. He really gives cops a bad name. I hope to heck his son, Steve, is not like him.

I want to know about the other son and why he has cut ties with his father.

[Tom'sGirl]

[quote=dee10134;1821395]

This is true. Many people benefit from taking an antidepressant, and a good doctor will monitor a patient closely at first to see if they have prescribed the best one for that particular patient, which means a person could have the leftovers of a couple of different drugs that the doc prescribed before they found which one worked the best.
Still, I suspect Drew had something to do with either supplying some of the drugs and alcohol or encouraging Thomas to over-indulge.

Susan

Whoa! That was NOT my post TGIR, it was dee's.

[Warof2010]

A relative helped Drew move a heavy large blue barrel out of the house????

12 hours of Drew's timeline missing.

[nanandjim]

Steve still sees his Dad. Steve had the 4 kids for a while when this first started. I don't know anything about the rest of the family / extended families. Steve's wedding was a civil ceremony before a Judge. They wanted to save their money. I don't even know if Drew was there or not. Steve had a BBQ for all his friends at his house in lieu of a reception.
I read that Drew showed up (at the reception, I presume) without Stacy. I had also read that Stacy didn't know about the older children and his other marriages. I don't know if she ever found out. If not, maybe, that's why she didn't go. Of course, if I were DP, I wouldn't want to be the subject of stares and gossip because his wife is younger than his son and looks more like his granddaughter than a spouse.

What is your impression of Steve? Is he like his father, meaning that he is crooked and a liar? Is he a womanizer? Is he an abusive spouse? Of course, I don't blame you if I don't get an answer or a straight answer.

[chicoliving]

Don't panic....looks like the pesky quote glitch is rearing its head. Try not quoting for a bit while it straightens out.

[browneyedgirl]

is Steve the son that has limited contact with DP?

[mysteriew]

N&J, I don't think Drew P would have filed a missing persons report either. I think he might have at some point told the family that Stacy had called him and she was somewhere and wasn't sure if she was coming back. I think Drew P thought that there would be no official notice to a "missing" adult. Esp. if he said she had a bf and had "mood disorders." I think that is why he was so mad at the media, because he felt that the media was pushing for more investigation.

[Tom'sGirl]

Don't panic....looks like the pesky quote glitch is rearing its head. Try not quoting for a bit while it straightens out.
Thanks chico, I knew it was having problems so maybe everyone should Preview their posts before submitting.

[mysteriew]

Browneyedgirl, Randy answered that one in post # 67

[Tom'sGirl]

is Steve the son that has limited contact with DP?

No, that is his other son Eric.

[Leila]

Randy............welcome to Websleuths!

Question: Do you know any of the other players in this saga - Ric Mims, Sharon Bychowski, or Steve Carcerano? Do you know Drew's step-brother, Thomas Morphey, or have heard of him?

[RandyMucha]

Randy............welcome to Websleuths!

Question: Do you know any of the other players in this saga - Ric Mims, Sharon Bychowski, or Steve Carcerano? Do you know Drew's step-brother, Thomas Morphey, or have heard of him?

Thanks! No, I don't know any of those people. What I know now is based on the same media coverage we are all watching. I haven't even discussed these people with Steve.

[mysteriew]

I'm sure Steve appreciates that. All this has to be hard on him. I feel as bad for the older kids as I do for the younger ones. They didn't ask for this, and they don't deserve this, none of them. And as adults, they are (have been) looked at with suspicion, but it was an event that they had no control over. They have to be going through a lot of complex emotions right now.

[cheko1]

Thanks! I'll be around.

Randy

Welcome to WS Randy

[SeriouslySearching]

Randy, please let Steve know (when they return from their honeymoon) there are people around the country who are praying for his family, his siblings, and for Stacy. Our hearts ache for the people innocently affected by the actions of Drew and certainly for his children. They are victims as much as Kathleen and Stacy. It is heartbreaking to know their mothers are gone and their lives have been forever changed.

I have witnessed first hand how children of a murdered parent at the hands of the other parent continue to try and cope throughout their lives with that knowledge. It is something they never truly recover from and they will need counseling along the way. I hope Steve will see to it that his siblings will eventually get the help they need to move on from all of this. Kathleen's children now have been subjected to losing not one, but two mothers and I feel so sorry for them.

What kind of person would allow his children to suffer this way? There is no worse evil than to knowingly cause your children such pain.

[closeobserver]

Now Drew's attorney is stating the relative could be living in a fantasy world. Sheesh! They don't want to simply discredit this guy...they want to paint him as a complete nut job! We know who the real nut job is, Brodsky! Turn around and take a closer look at your client! (Besides...the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...you know!) This makes Drew look and sound totally sane (sarcasm): On Tuesday, Peterson emerged from his suburban Chicago home with a hand-held video camera and told the horde of reporters surrounding his house that they made him feel like a prisoner.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, denied anyone helped Peterson move any container from the home and claimed the family member in question has a history of mental problems.

"I don't know what world (the family member) is living in, our world, his world or if he's veering back and forth between the real world and whatever fantasy world he's living in," Brodsky told The Associated Press.
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1107/476159.html

How does Brodsky plan on discrediting the neighbor that saw this and that Cassandra can testify she saw the container inside his garage which is now mysteriously missing? Is he going to say they are crazy, too?!

If Morphey is such a nut job, then why is Drew asking him to help him move a barrel, and sit with him at a coffee house, and also asking him to hold a phone, but don't answer it. Who sounds like the nut job here?

[concernedperson]

If Morphey is such a nut job, then why is Drew asking him to help him move a barrel, and sit with him at a coffee house, and also asking him to hold a phone, but don't answer it. Who sounds like the nut job here?

Exactly! Sounds like Thomas was used big time and the attorney is shameless in describing him. Defense attorneys are notorious for pointing the finger at any innocent person surrounding the victim excepting their own client.

[SuziQ]

Exactly! Sounds like Thomas was used big time and the attorney is shameless in describing him. Defense attorneys are notorious for pointing the finger at any innocent person surrounding the victim excepting their own client.


Brodsky was sickening this morning, he ran down all the hospitalizations, DUI's and suicide attempts Thomas has had.

[Leila]

This is funny - from Gretawire:

Oh how I wish I had video of this!! I just landed in Chicago from Aruba - this trip was totally unexpected when we left for Aruba so we have no winter clothes…so what do I wish I had video of??? OTR producer Steph Watts and Mark Furhman went to.a women’s clothing store and bought Debi the Make Up Artist and me a warm jacket…for some reason, the idea of those two guys doing that - shopping for women’s clothes - is a riot to me and would have made for great video for GretaWire….we have not yet seen the purchases as we are still en route to Bolingbrook

My curiosity is certain peaked.........why is it so urgent that Greta get from Aruba to Bolingbrook without a stopover at her home in Washington, DC for warm clothing? It sounds like Greta is expecting a major break in the case in the next day or two.

[SeriouslySearching]

My curiosity is certain peaked.........why is it so urgent that Greta get from Aruba to Bolingbrook without a stopover at her home in Washington, DC for warm clothing? It sounds like Greta is expecting a major break in the case in the next day or two.Mine, too! It does sound like Greta is expecting something to *cough* surface or suspects that an arrest is imminent. Stay tuned!

[mysteriew]

Good point. Yesterday someone on findstacy thought there would be an arrest yesterday, but there wasn't. Think they are holding off til Greta gets there?

BTW, shouldn't the Grand Jury be finished by now? Hopefully there is news from there too.

[indallas2]

This is funny - from Gretawire:

Oh how I wish I had video of this!! I just landed in Chicago from Aruba - this trip was totally unexpected when we left for Aruba so we have no winter clothes…so what do I wish I had video of??? OTR producer Steph Watts and Mark Furhman went to.a women’s clothing store and bought Debi the Make Up Artist and me a warm jacket…for some reason, the idea of those two guys doing that - shopping for women’s clothes - is a riot to me and would have made for great video for GretaWire….we have not yet seen the purchases as we are still en route to Bolingbrook

My curiosity is certain peaked.........why is it so urgent that Greta get from Aruba to Bolingbrook without a stopover at her home in Washington, DC for warm clothing? It sounds like Greta is expecting a major break in the case in the next day or two.

:laugh:

I hope it's an arrest. :behindbar

[SeriouslySearching]

Why don't we all go hang out in chat?~

Randy~ you would find chat easier to communicate and answer questions, I think.

Link to chat forum where there are directions
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56125

[SuziQ]

Sources: Rossetto being framed in Stacy's disappearance
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/672255,stacy112807.article

(snip)
Investigators suspect that Drew Peterson had his step-brother, Thomas Morphey, help him dispose of his wife’s body and also used Morphey in a plot to make it look as though her killer was Scott Rossetto, a man they suspect was Stacy’s boyfriend, sources said.

and

To date, the investigation has shown that one of Stacy Peterson’s last known cell phone calls was made in the Shorewood area, sources say. Investigators speculate that Drew Peterson actually made that phone call from Shorewood in an attempt to frame Rossetto as the killer.

[SuziQ]

The below was posted by a commenter on Gretawire. It's regarding a breaking news story NBC previewed for the SunTimes tomorrow morning:

November 28th, 2007 at 11:02 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/wednesday-night-show-comments-here/all-comments/#comment-123062) SunTimes story breaks…
Stacy told clergyman Drew killed Savio! Gave Drew ultimatum Sunday to leave house on Wednesday.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/wednesday-night-show-comments-here/all-comments/#comments

[SuziQ]

Another post from a kind commenter at Gretawire:

November 28th, 2007 at 11:04 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/wednesday-night-show-comments-here/all-comments/#comment-123075)
Watching local Channel 5 news……
Stacy went to clergyman and reproted that DP killed Kathleen. Also, on Stacy told DP that she wanted a divorce on that Sunday…THis will all be in tomorrow’s Suntimes.
Trying to find and will post.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/wednesday-night-show-comments-here/all-comments/#comments

ETA: So is Drew going to claim that clergy is lying or mentally ill as well? God help us all if the clergy is a woman. DP will claim she was pmsing!

[SuziQ]

(video at link)
Several sources are painting a new picture of what Drew Peterson did the night his wife Stacy disappeared – at 2:30pm – 10pm , and just after 11:30pm. Peterson isn't talking tonight, but his attorney is denying those claims, in defense of his client. Fox News Chicago Reporter Craig Wall is covering this story in Bolingbrook. Click play to see his latest report.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5068901&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Chi Town Legal Freak]

I saw the NBC 5 report and tomorrow's front page of the Sun-Times, in big, bold, letters will state " STACY TOLD CLERGY DREW KILLED KATHY".

Also on this report, "according to sources", Stacy told Drew a few days before she went missing she wanted him out of the house by next weekend. Drew then called his step brother and said he needs to "dispose of the problem".

Chilling report and I feel the walls are closing in on Him now.

[SuziQ]

I saw the NBC 5 report and tomorrow's front page of the Sun-Times, in big, bold, letters will state " STACY TOLD CLERGY DREW KILLED KATHY".

Also on this report, "according to sources", Stacy told Drew a few days before she went missing she wanted him out of the house by next weekend. Drew then called his step brother and said he needs to "dispose of the problem".

Chilling report and I feel the walls are closing in on Him now.

Lol, doesn't anyone read my posts? I posted that about ten minutes ago. :slap:

[SuziQ]

I saw the NBC 5 report and tomorrow's front page of the Sun-Times, in big, bold, letters will state " STACY TOLD CLERGY DREW KILLED KATHY".

Also on this report, "according to sources", Stacy told Drew a few days before she went missing she wanted him out of the house by next weekend. Drew then called his step brother and said he needs to "dispose of the problem".

Chilling report and I feel the walls are closing in on Him now.

Whoa! I didn't hear that though! wow!!!

[philamena]

I read yours SusiQ, lol.
Sounds like things are finally coming together in this case. If only Stacey could be found. I have a feeling DP's arrest is going to happen soon....with or without the body.

[SuziQ]

I read yours SusiQ, lol.
Sounds like things are finally coming together in this case. If only Stacey could be found. I have a feeling DP's arrest is going soon....with or without the body.

ETA: Thank you Philamena, (sniff sniff)

Chitown, you know what time the paper comes out there?

[Tom'sGirl]

Lol, doesn't anyone read my posts? I posted that about ten minutes ago. :slap:

I do SQ!

[SuziQ]

I do SQ!

TY, I have to take back what I said, because Chi Town has better info than me. So everyone that theorized that Stacy was killed because she knew about Kathleen was correct.

[Angelray]

Good work SuziQ I just found that and was coming back to post it. I always look for your posts you are always on the ball.

[Utopia]

I saw the NBC 5 report and tomorrow's front page of the Sun-Times, in big, bold, letters will state " STACY TOLD CLERGY DREW KILLED KATHY".

Also on this report, "according to sources", Stacy told Drew a few days before she went missing she wanted him out of the house by next weekend. Drew then called his step brother and said he needs to "dispose of the problem".

Chilling report and I feel the walls are closing in on Him now.

WOW! :eek: I hope this is true - and good for her if it is.

[Tom'sGirl]

TY, I have to take back what I said, because Chi Town has better info than me. So everyone that theorized that Stacy was killed because she knew about Kathleen was correct.

Kind of makes me ill to think that Stacy knew all along though :(

[SuziQ]

Kind of makes me ill to think that Stacy knew all along though :(

Yes, same here.

[kpass]

ETA: Thank you Philamena, (sniff sniff)

Chitown, you know what time the paper comes out there?

I'm also from Chicago, about 25 minutes from Bolingbrook...The Sun-Times comes out online @ midnight CST. I get it delivered around 5:00 AM.

[Angelray]

Makes you want to cry to even think that Stacy would have known about
this. I cant imagine the fear that she was hiding.

[SuziQ]

I'm also from Chicago, about 25 minutes from Bolingbrook...The Sun-Times comes out online @ midnight CST. I get it delivered around 5:00 AM.

So about an hour from now?

[mysteriew]

Kind of makes me ill to think that Stacy knew all along though :(


It is still too early to tell. Did she know or just suspect? Did she know all along, or while threatening her did Drew P tell her? Is it for sure that she knew or is it another rumor?

[Tom'sGirl]

It is still too early to tell. Did she know or just suspect? Did she know all along, or while threatening her did Drew P tell her? Is it for sure that she knew or is it another rumor?

Don't know guess we will learn tomorrow..............rumors do fly in this case.

[Chi Town Legal Freak]

Suzi, I am trying to locate the 10:00 PM video from NBC5 Chicago for you. I don't think it is up yet, but that comment about "dispose" would be on the video.

[Chi Town Legal Freak]

Here is the link to the story. Huge bombshell here!

http://www.nbc5.com/news/14710779/detail.html

[SuziQ]

Suzi, I am trying to locate the 10:00 PM video from NBC5 Chicago for you. I don't think it is up yet, but that comment about "dispose" would be on the video.

You have no idea how the hairs stood up on my neck when I read your original post! It is the most sinister thing I have read since this case began.

[Chi Town Legal Freak]

You have no idea how the hairs stood up on my neck when I read your original post! It is the most sinister thing I have read since this case began.

I know, Suzi. Me, too.

[mysteriew]

Greta transcript for today
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313424,00.html

[Tom'sGirl]

Greta transcript for today
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313424,00.html

I saw that today on a video somehwere in my cyber travels and the part that stuck out at the time was this part:


VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now, he apparently had a drug overdose. We don't know if it was attempted suicide, whether it was an accident. When you heard about this, you know, did it occur to you that he might attempt to commit suicide or might be an accident? What was your thought?

DOMAN: I don't know. It just seemed to me like the same old Tom. He used to get really wasted all the time. I remember one instance, he — he flipped his truck while — while he was intoxicated, and that's as far as — I mean, when I heard that, I just — I don't know.

[mysteriew]

Here is the link to the story. Huge bombshell here!

http://www.nbc5.com/news/14710779/detail.html

Certainly indicates premeditation doesn't it? And more of an accomplice after the fact than an innocent person who was roped in by his evil stepbro.

Note: the article indicates that it was last August when Stacy talked to the clergyman about Drew's involvement in Kathleen's death. IIRC, Drew P and Stacy's marital problems began about two years ago according to the family. I suspect that Drew either included the info about Kathleen in a threat to Stacy or she came to that conclusion as she thought about things he was saying in arguments and threats to her.

LOL, it is hard to reconcile her statements to the family and to the priest with the statements from Drew P and his mom about what a good marriage Drew P had.

[mysteriew]

Has anyone else noticed that the timeline for that Sun. doesn't mention when the barrel was disposed of? Or whether TM was with Drew P when it was dumped? This seems to be the part that LE is not sure of. This could also be the reason for the request to the public asking if they saw these vehicles on that Sun. They maybe need to find out if TM was with Drew P when he dumped the body.

[mysteriew]

Now we know for sure where the phone call was made from.

Investigators suspect that Drew Peterson had his step-brother, Thomas Morphey, help him dispose of his wife’s body and also used Morphey in a plot to make it look as though her killer was Scott Rossetto, a man they suspect was Stacy’s boyfriend, sources said.

snip...To date, the investigation has shown that one of Stacy Peterson’s last known cell phone calls was made in the Shorewood area, sources say. Investigators speculate that Drew Peterson actually made that phone call from Shorewood in an attempt to frame Rossetto as the killer.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/672255,stacy112807.article

Isn't this a change in brothers from when the info first broke? Weren't they looking at the other brother as the boyfriend?

[MrsBuckWeaver]

Wow. It certainly sounds like things are all coming together and closing in on Drew. I can't wait to see the headline that he's been arrested!!! Reading the article about Stacy talking to the clergyman in August just made me think how terrified she must have been living with this guy. Poor thing.

[SuziQ]

Now we know for sure where the phone call was made from.

Investigators suspect that Drew Peterson had his step-brother, Thomas Morphey, help him dispose of his wife’s body and also used Morphey in a plot to make it look as though her killer was Scott Rossetto, a man they suspect was Stacy’s boyfriend, sources said.

snip...To date, the investigation has shown that one of Stacy Peterson’s last known cell phone calls was made in the Shorewood area, sources say. Investigators speculate that Drew Peterson actually made that phone call from Shorewood in an attempt to frame Rossetto as the killer.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/672255,stacy112807.article

Isn't this a change in brothers from when the info first broke? Weren't they looking at the other brother as the boyfriend?

I think it's always been Scott Rossetto? Any sign of the Sun times article yet?

[mysteriew]

I think it's always been Scott Rossetto? Any sign of the Sun times article yet?

This one?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/672255,stacy112807.article

[Angelray]

Wonder what cell phone was used to make the call. Her old cell number or the new? Guess that hasnt been leaked out yet.

[Taximom]

Wonder what cell phone was used to make the call. Her old cell number or the new? Guess that hasnt been leaked out yet.

Good question. Would the number from her new cell (that he shouldn't have known about) already been programmed in as "Stacy" on his phone?

Very interesting. I hope LE has checked both of her cell phone records!!!

[SuziQ]

This one?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/672255,stacy112807.article

That was a good article also. The one I'm looking for is tomorrows Sun Times. I'm hoping the online version posts soon. Wishfull thinking maybe.

[SuziQ]

Wonder what cell phone was used to make the call. Her old cell number or the new? Guess that hasnt been leaked out yet.

Speaking of leaks, funny how they all came out this week. An FBI stradegy? Put the pressure on to make Drew crack? We know LE has known about the Tom and the framing of Scott from almost day one.

[Angelray]

I have been here on and off all day. I am afraid to go to bed afraid I will miss something LOL. Hubby has kidney stones and he is up and down anyway so guess I will just sit here till the Sun Times comes out.

[Angelray]

Yes it is funny. I think they are trying to get somebody all shook up LOL. This guy reminds me so much of my son in law it isnt funny.

[SuziQ]

I have been here on and off all day. I am afraid to go to bed afraid I will miss something LOL. Hubby has kidney stones and he is up and down anyway so guess I will just sit here till the Sun Times comes out.

Oh poor guy! I wish this would have happened during the past two days. My little Pom was fixed on Monday and she's been in pain. So I've been up all night the past two nights. She is doing great tonight and sleeping, now I can't sleep.

[deblue]

So, who posted that ISP were requesting video from businesses on 59 before that story was posted? Deb

[mysteriew]

I think it's always been Scott Rossetto? Any sign of the Sun times article yet?

You're right, it was Scott. LOL, it is getting so there are too many names.

[SuziQ]

Yes it is funny. I think they are trying to get somebody all shook up LOL. This guy reminds me so much of my son in law it isnt funny.

That is scary :eek:

[SuziQ]

So, who posted that ISP were requesting video from businesses on 59 before that story was posted? Deb

Hey you, you made it! Welcome.

Hmmmm, I posted from the Sun Times.

[Vegas Bride]

I was wondering about her cell phone also, hmmmm if DrewP was using it to call his stepbrother then I guess Stacy didn't take it with her when she left on vacation.
I can't get over what an idiot this man is, he's a cop yet thought he'd get away with everything because no one would question what he said?

VB

[mysteriew]

I think it's always been Scott Rossetto? Any sign of the Sun times article yet?

Here is a pretty good one

According to published reports, a Bolingbrook woman who has been missing for a month told a clergyman that her husband had killed his former wife and made it look like an accident. Stacy Peterson has been missing for a month, and is married to former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson. A source revealed the information to Chicago Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed, NBC5 reported Wednesday night. The source said Stacy Peterson told the clergyman last August that her husband had killed Kathleen Savio, who was his third wife.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22017295/

[Angelray]

Scary it is. I hadnt talked to her all Thanksgiving Holiday. Called her last night and he hangs up phone on her when he finds out she is talking to her mom.. she cant talk to none of her family. There is deff so many names now I have a hard time keeping them all straight.. Is there any bodys of water close to where Scott lives? (poor baby, I had a pom, now have poodle had him fixed)

[deblue]

Hey you, you made it! Welcome.

Hmmmm, I posted from the Sun Times.
No, Iread the video thing on a different thread before it was posted here. I just wondered who knew it and how. ?? And HI:D

[SuziQ]

No, Iread the video thing on a different thread before it was posted here. I just wondered who knew it and how. ?? And HI:D


Ok, I getcha now. Whoever it was has great sources! What else are you hearing out there in your blogosphere travels?

[Angelray]

This is my thought on her taking her bikini with her.. when I was young and had a figure. LOL I would wear my top in the evenings and I noticed in one of her pictures she had her bikini top on under her shirt. Could that have been what she had on when she left and that is why he said what he did?

[SuziQ]

Scary it is. I hadnt talked to her all Thanksgiving Holiday. Called her last night and he hangs up phone on her when he finds out she is talking to her mom.. she cant talk to none of her family. There is deff so many names now I have a hard time keeping them all straight.. Is there any bodys of water close to where Scott lives? (poor baby, I had a pom, now have poodle had him fixed)

That's tragic. I can't imagine what goes through your mind reading about this case.

[SuziQ]

Mysteriew, the article you posted is pretty detailed. It'll be interesting to see if the Suntimes has more than that.

[cheko1]

I can't help but wonder if Stacy told Drew if he never got out that she was going to turn him in to LE for Kathleens murder. He decided to keep her mouth shut once & for all.

[deblue]

Ok, I getcha now. Whoever it was has great sources! What else are you hearing out there in your blogosphere travels?

Wow they must, you are really good at finding things. I really was shocked by the cell phone call (whata dumb arse)....but.....what would be the advantage to leaving the phone there? A witness or an alibi for an hour ?seems like a risk either way, especially if his supposed witness is proven unreliable. Except the reliability of tm will be proven by the phone records... dp is fu@*ed, he he! Deb

[deblue]

Wow they must, you are really good at finding things. I really was shocked by the cell phone call (whata dumb arse)....but.....what would be the advantage to leaving the phone there? A witness or an alibi for an hour ?seems like a risk either way, especially if his supposed witness is proven unreliable. Except the reliability of tm will be proven by the phone records... dp is fu@*ed, he he! Deb But wouldnt it show up as a missed call?? can't they tell if a call went through or not by phone records?

[MrsBuckWeaver]

I really was shocked by the cell phone call (whata dumb arse)....but.....what would be the advantage to leaving the phone there? A witness or an alibi for an hour ?seems like a risk either way, especially if his supposed witness is proven unreliable. Except the reliability of tm will be proven by the phone records... dp is fu@*ed, he he!

I agree!! The whole cell phone thing is so ridiculous. There's no reason to say here, keep my phone for me - but don't answer it?! Doesn't make a bit of sense!

The lawyer was on Dan Abrams last night saying the step or half-brother is crazy and if Drew was going to get someone to help him why would he go to someone that unstable? Dan Abrams said just about every time a defense attorney says "Why would my client be so stupid to do XYZ?" It turns out the client WAS stupid enough to do it.

I think DP was so used to getting away with everything and it's all blowing up in his face. Like someone said earlier, that's why he's saying he hates the media, he just wanted this to go on w/o any attention and he could have gotten away with it like he did with Kathleen.

[cheko1]

The walls are closing in Drew where is Stacy? Horrible cold weather headed to Ill & they won't be able to find her til spring. FBI should throw his azz outdoors bare azz naked for a few hours & he'd be talking then.

[MrsBuckWeaver]

But wouldnt it show up as a missed call?? can't they tell if a call went through or not by phone records?

If voice mail picked up I think it would still show as a call, as long as he let the voice mail message play, that's how long the call would show up as.

[SuziQ]

But wouldnt it show up as a missed call?? can't they tell if a call went through or not by phone records?

Hmmmmm, unless Drew let it go to voicemail and then hung up? Then deleted the msg off his phone? I know when I leave a voicemail I get billed for the call.

[SuziQ]

If voice mail picked up I think it would still show as a call, as long as he let the voice mail message play, that's how long the call would show up as.

lol, cross post!

******

Alright, my eyes are about ready to roll back into my head. I'll catch you all tomorrow.

I'm glad to see you here Deblue.

[Angelray]

nighterz

[Taximom]

Wow they must, you are really good at finding things. I really was shocked by the cell phone call (whata dumb arse)....but.....what would be the advantage to leaving the phone there? A witness or an alibi for an hour ?seems like a risk either way, especially if his supposed witness is proven unreliable. Except the reliability of tm will be proven by the phone records... dp is fu@*ed, he he! Deb

I thought he was doing this to create a ping from another location with Stacy's phone. So he could say Stacy called his phone (and he missed it, darn) from wherever he went with her phone.

I can't believe this guy is a cop!!! :slap:

[MrsBuckWeaver]

I thought he was doing this to create a ping from another location with Stacy's phone. So he could say Stacy called his phone (and he missed it, darn) from wherever he went with her phone.

Right - and he couldn't do it if he had HIS phone on him because it would have showed up at the same location. He needed his phone to be where it was but would have had a hard time explaining to TM if he had picked up expecting to talk to Stacy and instead he got Drew calling his own phone when he told TM not to answer it.

He thinks he's so crafty, but the walls ARE closing in!!!

Poor Stacy.

[MrsBuckWeaver]

Whoa, my last post was very confusing, sorry. I knew what I was trying to say but it didn't come out very clear.

I think it's time to try to go back to sleep.

[Tom'sGirl]

Whoa, my last post was very confusing, sorry. I knew what I was trying to say but it didn't come out very clear.

I think it's time to try to go back to sleep.

LOL, I understood it okay MBW :)

[Taximom]

Whoa, my last post was very confusing, sorry. I knew what I was trying to say but it didn't come out very clear.

I think it's time to try to go back to sleep.

LOL I got it too, but the "TM" threw me for a sec as some here call me that for short. I'm tired too! lol

[MrsBuckWeaver]

ut the "TM" threw me for a sec as some here call me that for short.

LOL! Yep, now Drew's calling Taximom in his elaborate scheme to drag websleuthers into the dirt with the rest of the "crazy" people he associates with.

Ok - seriously need to go to sleep again. Hope to awake to news of an arrest.

[Taximom]

LOL! Yep, now Drew's calling Taximom in his elaborate scheme to drag websleuthers into the dirt with the rest of the "crazy" people he associates with.

Ok - seriously need to go to sleep again. Hope to awake to news of an arrest.

There's so many names and initials in this case. It drives me crazy. My brain just "read" my nick when I saw TM. Please don't add me in with the rest of the crazies in this case!!!

Yes, tomorrow should be interesting. I still fear for the safety of those kids. :(

[mysteriew]

Stacy told clergyman Drew killed ex

Sneed hears Stacy Peterson told a clergyman in August that her husband had claimed to have killed his former wife Kathleen Savio and made it look like an accident.

A source close to the investigation tells Sneed the 23-year-old, who had been pregnant and living with Peterson when Savio was found dead in an empty bathtub in 2004, also told two other people close to her about her husband's statements regarding Savio's demise.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/673072,CST-NWS-SNEED29.article



http://www.wbbm780.com/Report:-Stacy-Told-Clergyman-Drew-Killed-Savio/1265322

[mysteriew]

Stacy Peterson told her husband Drew she was leaving him on the same day she disappeared, according to a source close to the investigation.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5791236

[Trino]

[QUOTE=mysteriew;1823075]Stacy told clergyman Drew killed ex

Sneed hears Stacy Peterson told a clergyman in August that her husband had claimed to have killed his former wife Kathleen Savio and made it look like an accident.

A source close to the investigation tells Sneed the 23-year-old, who had been pregnant and living with Peterson when Savio was found dead in an empty bathtub in 2004, also told two other people close to her about her husband's statements regarding Savio's demise.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/673072,CST-NWS-SNEED29.article

Why hasn't the clergyman come forward? A priest is bound by the Church not to reveal confessions, but a Protestant clergyman isn't.

[mysteriew]

Pictures taken outside Drew Peterson's Bolingbrook home Tuesday showed Peterson turning the tables on the assembled media, videotaping them with a hand-held camcorder.

A Wednesday morning segment on ABC's "Good Morning America" gave viewers another perspective on that camera showdown: the actual footage from the camera Peterson held.

A WLS-Ch. 7 report said the camcorder was given to Drew Peterson, a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, by "Good Morning America."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-abc_webnov29,0,3648242.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout

[mysteriew]

Why hasn't the clergyman come forward? A priest is bound by the Church not to reveal confessions, but a Protestant clergyman isn't.

We don't know that he hasn't. A clergyman is more likely to talk to LE than to the media.

[closeobserver]

I thought he was doing this to create a ping from another location with Stacy's phone. So he could say Stacy called his phone (and he missed it, darn) from wherever he went with her phone.

I can't believe this guy is a cop!!! :slap:

To me, this indicates that Morphey knew what he was involved in. Otherwise, Drew could have put his phone on silent, hid it in a cabinet somewhere, then drove off and made the phone call. There was no reason to involve Morphey in this part of the plot. If Morphey knew, there was no reason NOT to involve him. By involving him deeper, it gave D.P blackmail ammo to keep him quite. Why do you think he is having "memory lapses" about the time of moving the barrel? Why else isn't he coming forward with more info?

[SuziQ]

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=31f2ccdb-a320-409f-94bf-927854f1078a

This morning on the Today Show. Drews attorney calls Michael Sneed a gossip columnist.

[mysteriew]

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=31f2ccdb-a320-409f-94bf-927854f1078a

This morning on the Today Show. Drews attorney calls Michael Sneed a gossip columnist.

ROFL!! That is a new one! Drew P is just full of labels isn't he?

[Trino]

We don't know that he hasn't. A clergyman is more likely to talk to LE than to the media.

I don't know that this is reliable. The article states, "Sneed hears..." It doesn't state who he heard it from.

[SuziQ]

A funny post at Gretawire: In bold is what got me.

Comment by J. Brodsky (aka Emma ;-)[/URL]
November 29th, 2007 at 2:04 am (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comment-123814) Ahem, yes, this is Joel Brodsky, Mr. Peterson’s attorney. I would like to point out that the alleged clergyman who is spreading false rumors about my innocent client is neither clergy nor a man. In fact, he does not even exist — it is just a figment of the media’s sick imagination created solely for the purpose of smearing my client’s stellar image.
In case, however, that this clergyman turns out to be real after all, I hasten to remind everyone that he is a chronic alcoholic with a long history of documented mental problems (thinks he talks to God — need I say more?). Surely we cannot take anything he says seriously.
Thank you.

[URL]http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comments

[cheko1]

Thanks everyone for the great links!

[cheko1]

A funny post at Gretawire: In bold is what got me.

Comment by J. Brodsky (aka Emma ;-)
November 29th, 2007 at 2:04 am (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comment-123814) Ahem, yes, this is Joel Brodsky, Mr. Peterson’s attorney. I would like to point out that the alleged clergyman who is spreading false rumors about my innocent client is neither clergy nor a man. In fact, he does not even exist — it is just a figment of the media’s sick imagination created solely for the purpose of smearing my client’s stellar image.
In case, however, that this clergyman turns out to be real after all, I hasten to remind everyone that he is a chronic alcoholic with a long history of documented mental problems (thinks he talks to God — need I say more?). Surely we cannot take anything he says seriously.
Thank you.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comments

Oh Suzi thanks for the laugh!
They sure have Drew & his lawyer figured out.

[mysteriew]

ROFL!!! Great one SusieQ! A big thank you to Emma and SusieQ for the laugh.

[DeltaDawn]

Interesting that she told a clergyman. It then mentions she told 2 others close to her that she issued the ultimatum to Drew that Sunday she went missing...my bet is that one of those others is Cassandr, the other either Sharon or SCOTT R.
This makes perfect sense as to why Cassandra went looking for her right away..she knew abut the earlier confrontation, probably knew about other things too..so she knew something awful had happened to Stacy.
I think the clergyman, Cassandra and Sharon have all been in contact with the police , as well as ThomasM right from the beginnning. It wasn't a long time at all between missing person to probable murder.

[SuziQ]

I don't know that this is reliable. The article states, "Sneed hears..." It doesn't state who he heard it from.

You brought up a good point, so I went to research the types of articles Sneed writes. It appears he is an opinion columnist. Usually that could possibly have some influence on Sneeds credibility. But in the Peterson case we've seen the wildest rumors, such as Drews brother is in the hospital after a suicide attempt, turn out to be true. I'll put my money on the Priest being true.

[SuziQ]

Interesting that she told a clergyman. It then mentions she told 2 others close to her that she issued the ultimatum to Drew that Sunday she went missing...my bet is that one of those others is Cassandr, the other either Sharon or SCOTT R.
This makes perfect sense as to why Cassandra went looking for her right away..she knew abut the earlier confrontation, probably knew about other things too..so she knew something awful had happened to Stacy.
I think the clergyman, Cassandra and Sharon have all been in contact with the police , as well as ThomasM right from the beginnning. It wasn't a long time at all between missing person to probable murder.

I've always thought that States Attorneys office was very quick to take a look at Kathleens death. They opened her file on 10-29 or 10-30 IIRC. Sounds like someone called with the info Stacy had confessed to.

[DeltaDawn]

I don't think Thomas M knew what he was doing until the reports came out the next day that Stacy was missing.

Why did Drew take Thomas and leave Thomas at the coffee shop with the cell phone?
Because then Thomas would realize that there were witnesses tohim being with Drew that night that would tie him into this case if the police looked at Drew..meaning Drew sealed Thomas cooperation Drew thought by being seen with him in a public place..that Thomas would not go to the police because then he would be in trouble too.
The thinking on Drew's part as to how Thomas would react was off and how the police would react to Thomas was off. I think Thomas was used by Drew and did not realize what he had done until the reports that Stacy was missing came out the next day.

[SuziQ]

Mysteriew and Checo, I read that last night and have been laughing ever since...lol, "he thinks he talks to God...need I say more?" Emma is quite the card isn't she?

[SuziQ]

This is why I question how much does Tom Morphy really know. Last night Chitown posted the below comment and I and yet I don't think the Suntimes mentions it. Very very chilling, IMO.

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I saw the NBC 5 report and tomorrow's front page of the Sun-Times, in big, bold, letters will state " STACY TOLD CLERGY DREW KILLED KATHY".

Also on this report, "according to sources", Stacy told Drew a few days before she went missing she wanted him out of the house by next weekend. Drew then called his step brother and said he needs to "dispose of the problem".

Chilling report and I feel the walls are closing in on Him now.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1822580&postcount=95

[DeltaDawn]

SuziQ that is very chilling..I think though that Drew got him over there to help him move things..as in I am leaving Stacy or Stacy is leaving me.
Remember Drew had some of his things packed in boxes in the garage ready to move..only he never intended on doing that. I think that both Cassandra and Sharon mentioned some of the boxes in the garage contained Drew's things.

[SuziQ]

SuziQ that is very chilling..I think though that Drew got him over there to help him move things..as in I am leaving Stacy or Stacy is leaving me.
Remember Drew had some of his things packed in boxes in the garage ready to move..only he never intended on doing that. I think that both Cassandra and Sharon mentioned some of the boxes in the garage contained Drew's things.

Such as Hey Tom, Stacy left me and I need you to help me move her stuff out?

[Bigfoot]

FYI - Michael Sneed (the Sun-Times columnist) is a female (with a male name).

[fran]

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/672614,112907peterson.article

At 5 p.m. Oct. 28, Peterson, a Bolingbrook cop, called in to take the day off. He met his stepbrother, Tom Morphey, at a Starbucks and discussed "the problems he was having with Stacy and how to dispose of the problem," the source said.
Peterson then excused himself and left Morphey in the coffee shop with Peterson's cell phone, which he told Morphey not to answer if it rang. The phone did ring after that, and the name "Stacy" appeared on the caller ID.

The source said the call was made near the home of her friend, Scott Rossetto, a man Stacy was communicating with via cell phone text messages. The source believes this was an attempt by Peterson to place the focus of the police investigation on Rossetto.

Later that evening, Morphey was again summoned by Peterson - only this time to his home, where he helped Peterson remove a large plastic barrel and load it into Peterson's vehicle, sources said.

[DeltaDawn]

Did anyone watch Greta last night..I fell asleep before she came on? The only info I can find here is links to info from Tuesday nights show, that were posted at Greta Wire yesterday

[nanandjim]

:laugh: A funny post at Gretawire: In bold is what got me.

Comment by J. Brodsky (aka Emma ;-)[/URL]
November 29th, 2007 at 2:04 am (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comment-123814) Ahem, yes, this is Joel Brodsky, Mr. Peterson’s attorney. I would like to point out that the alleged clergyman who is spreading false rumors about my innocent client is neither clergy nor a man. In fact, he does not even exist — it is just a figment of the media’s sick imagination created solely for the purpose of smearing my client’s stellar image.
In case, however, that this clergyman turns out to be real after all, I hasten to remind everyone that he is a chronic alcoholic with a long history of documented mental problems (thinks he talks to God — need I say more?). Surely we cannot take anything he says seriously.
Thank you.

[URL]http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comments
Thanks for the good laugh. I wish that Greta would read that comment on air. :D

[TGIRecovered]

(thinks he talks to God — need I say more?). Surely we cannot take anything he says seriously.
Thank you.



Hilarious!

Susan

[close_enough]

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/672614,112907peterson.article

At 5 p.m. Oct. 28, Peterson, a Bolingbrook cop, called in to take the day off. He met his stepbrother, Tom Morphey, at a Starbucks and discussed "the problems he was having with Stacy and how to dispose of the problem," the source said.
Peterson then excused himself and left Morphey in the coffee shop with Peterson's cell phone, which he told Morphey not to answer if it rang. The phone did ring after that, and the name "Stacy" appeared on the caller ID.

The source said the call was made near the home of her friend, Scott Rossetto, a man Stacy was communicating with via cell phone text messages. The source believes this was an attempt by Peterson to place the focus of the police investigation on Rossetto.
Later that evening, Morphey was again summoned by Peterson - only this time to his home, where he helped Peterson remove a large plastic barrel and load it into Peterson's vehicle, sources said.

interesting!...near Rossetto's home...no wonder we got wind that there was a possibility that DP was going to try to frame this guy......AND, no wonder LE was doing searches around the area where this guy lives.....hmmmm

[SuziQ]

Hilarious!

Susan

Oh you guys, I have laughed and laughed at that one. Emma should write for Jay Leno or something.

[SuziQ]

interesting!...near Rossetto's home...no wonder we got wind that there was a possibility that DP was going to try to frame this guy......AND, no wonder LE was doing searches around the area where this guy lives.....hmmmm

And if I recall correctly on 10-29 a squad car was placed to watch Scott residence. That was fast!

[SuziQ]

Here is a link to the quote about placing LE outside Scotts residence on 10-29.

Stacy Peterson was reported missing Oct. 29. One law enforcement source said Illinois State Police called Shorewood police that same day, asking them to post an unmarked police car outside Rossetto’s home. Shorewood police have also been shown a photograph of a barrel similar to the one loaded into Drew Peterson’s SUV the day Stacy Peterson vanished.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/672255,stacy112807.stng

[close_enough]

And if I recall correctly on 10-29 a squad car was placed to watch Scott residence. That was fast!

whoa, i'd forgotten about this also!...i think LE knows exactly what happened to Stacy...guess they're really trying to dot all the i's & cross all the t's, PLUS i think they really want to find her body.....

[close_enough]

ok, i'm going to ask a question & i'm not downing Stacy, don't get me wrong here......

i read somewhere that DP said that Stacy was his alibi for the time period when Kathleen died....does anyone think that Stacy knew all along that DP murdered, or had Kathleen murdered?

do you think that DP held this fact over Stacy's head for awhile, & that's why she went to a priest/minister to confess???

i think DP made Kathleen out to be a monster & that's why Stacy went along with DP in harrassing Kathleen at her home...like flipping her off in her yard, & making a video of Kathleen arguing/fighting with DP...

just want to get some thoughts on this....

[browneyedgirl]

ok, i'm going to ask a question & i'm not downing Stacy, don't get me wrong here......

i read somewhere that DP said that Stacy was his alibi for the time period when Kathleen died....does anyone think that Stacy knew all along that DP murdered, or had Kathleen murdered?

do you think that DP held this fact over Stacy's head for awhile, & that's why she went to a priest/minister to confess???

i think DP made Kathleen out to be a monster & that's why Stacy went along with DP in harrassing Kathleen at her home...like flipping her off in her yard, & making a video of Kathleen arguing/fighting with DP...

just want to get some thoughts on this....

Yes - I do think Stacy knew about Kathleen's untimely death - It's been reported that Stacy was with DP on at least one occasion when he fought with KS and had her on the ground, trying to place her under arrest, and Stacy filmed everything on video for DP.
I have thought all along that this is the reason why Stacy is missing....she knew too much for DP to just give her a divorce and walk away. JMHO

[closeobserver]

ok, i'm going to ask a question & i'm not downing Stacy, don't get me wrong here......

i read somewhere that DP said that Stacy was his alibi for the time period when Kathleen died....does anyone think that Stacy knew all along that DP murdered, or had Kathleen murdered?

do you think that DP held this fact over Stacy's head for awhile, & that's why she went to a priest/minister to confess???

i think DP made Kathleen out to be a monster & that's why Stacy went along with DP in harrassing Kathleen at her home...like flipping her off in her yard, & making a video of Kathleen arguing/fighting with DP...

just want to get some thoughts on this....

I agree she probably knew. It is possible that she knew for a long time and D.P. could easily intimidate her with that knowledge by stating things like:
"Do you want to end up like her?" or "If you tell, who are they going to believe, a low life like you, or a cop?"

I'm sure she lived in fear. I suppose it's possible she knew all along. At 17, with a screwed up family life, you could be influenced to go along with many things. Whenever she found out, it eventually led to her being murdered.

[browneyedgirl]

I agree she probably knew. It is possible that she knew for a long time and D.P. could easily intimidate her with that knowledge by stating things like:
"Do you want to end up like her?" or "If you tell, who are they going to believe, a low life like you, or a cop?"

I'm sure she lived in fear. I suppose it's possible she knew all along. At 17, with a screwed up family life, you could be influenced to go along with many things. Whenever she found out, it eventually led to her being murdered.

Very good post, CO and I agree with you, 100%.

[TGIRecovered]

I think that if Stacy did know at the time that Drew killed Kathy, she only knew what Drew wanted her to know about it. He probably would have made it sound like an accident or self defense; whatever lie was handy at the time.
If that is what he did, Stacy may have been naive enough to believe him at first and realized later that Drew killed her on purpose.

Susan

[close_enough]

thanks for your responses, BEG & CO....that's pretty much how i see it also....at 17, i would think a person like DP could manipulate her with clothes, jewels, plastic surgery, nice home, etc.....to keep her quiet...once she started trying to get out from underneath his thumb, he saw problems coming, i would imagine.....how very very sad.....

[Vegas Bride]

I don't know if Stacy knew just what was happening at the time in regards to Kittys death, I'm more inclined to think he would have threatened Stacy later with the same thing happening to her when he wasn't able to control her any longer. I would like to hear the whole confession she made to the clergy, it could answer some of this, if she knew at the time IMO she also would have been confessing to her part of being his alibi etc.

VB

[browneyedgirl]

I'm also sure that at 17, she, SP, was convinced by DP that everything that had happened to KS, was all KS's fault. "if she would have been a better wife, house cleaner, cook, mother, none of this would have happened to her" kind of mentality that we so often see when dealing with sociopaths.

I'm sure that SP believe that she would be the "perfect" wife for DP and that the turmoil and problems between DP and KS would never happen to SP and DP.

I'm sure once she got into the relationship for a couple of years and all the newness wore off, she seen the same side of DP that KS had seen.

Poor woman, I'm sure she was scared out of her mind, during the last weeks of her life. It just breaks my heart for Stacy.

[cricket]

I don't think Thomas M knew what he was doing until the reports came out the next day that Stacy was missing.

Why did Drew take Thomas and leave Thomas at the coffee shop with the cell phone?
Because then Thomas would realize that there were witnesses tohim being with Drew that night that would tie him into this case if the police looked at Drew..meaning Drew sealed Thomas cooperation Drew thought by being seen with him in a public place..that Thomas would not go to the police because then he would be in trouble too.
The thinking on Drew's part as to how Thomas would react was off and how the police would react to Thomas was off. I think Thomas was used by Drew and did not realize what he had done until the reports that Stacy was missing came out the next day.

I'm up in the air about whether he knew or not. According to one article (can't remember which one) - shortly after he helped Drew move the container, he called a friend and told the friend that he may have just helped DP dispose of Stacy - and that was on Sunday night - before she was officially reported missing.

As to the cell phone - Drew could have left it with his step brother:

a) so that his phone would "ping" from the coffee shop location (as if Drew was there at the time - giving him an alibi), or

b) to make it appear that Stacy was calling him from near Scott's house (making it seem like she was alive and well and having an affair), or

c) to make it appear that Stacy was at least alive.

d) a combination of of a & b


Having said all that - I think Drew would have been smarter to "accidently" leave his phone with his step brother - it is less obvious, and if the step brother answered it, DP (calling from Stacy's phone) could have just hung up. It would have appeared that "Stacy" hung up when someone other than DP answered DP's phone (thinking she had a wrong number). For that matter, it would have been smarter still to put the phone on silent and hidden it somewhere in the coffee shop while he was gone.

We should also keep in mind that all it takes to have a phone display "call form Stacy" would be for that phone to have "Stacy's" number programmed in as a contact. That does not mean that Stacy's actual number made the call - it just means that the call the number came from was listed as being "Stacy" in the contact list. If you understand what I am saying.

[SeriouslySearching]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: A funny post at Gretawire: In bold is what got me.

Comment by J. Brodsky (aka Emma ;-)
November 29th, 2007 at 2:04 am (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comment-123814) Ahem, yes, this is Joel Brodsky, Mr. Peterson’s attorney. I would like to point out that the alleged clergyman who is spreading false rumors about my innocent client is neither clergy nor a man. In fact, he does not even exist — it is just a figment of the media’s sick imagination created solely for the purpose of smearing my client’s stellar image.
In case, however, that this clergyman turns out to be real after all, I hasten to remind everyone that he is a chronic alcoholic with a long history of documented mental problems (thinks he talks to God — need I say more?). Surely we cannot take anything he says seriously.
Thank you.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/28/the-big-question/all-comments/#comments OMG! This is too funny! It certainly does sound like something that Brodsky would spew!!

[browneyedgirl]

I personally cn't wait for the "breaking news" tomorrow....I hope it say's "Stacy has been found an DP has been arrested."

It blows my mind that everyday more and more...it's like pandora's box.

[ThoughtFox]

Wed. Nov. 28th 2007

Dan Abrams, MSNBC (scroll down) - Discussion with attorneys (Brodsky included) of Drew Peterson's stepbrother as an unreliable witness:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22025190/

[SuziQ]

Pam Bosco talks to reporters yesterday about "someone who helped Drew"

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2007/11/28/bts.bosco.peterson.cnn

[SuziQ]

Wed. Nov. 28th 2007

Dan Abrams, MSNBC (scroll down) - Discussion with attorneys (Brodsky included) of Drew Peterson's stepbrother as an unreliable witness:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22025190/

Ooooh thank you, I've been wanting to see this one.

[dee10134]

I thought what was said to clergy was confidential???:innocent:

[dee10134]

(snip)

We should also keep in mind that all it takes to have a phone display "call form Stacy" would be for that phone to have "Stacy's" number programmed in as a contact. That does not mean that Stacy's actual number made the call - it just means that the call the number came from was listed as being "Stacy" in the contact list. If you understand what I am saying.

Yeah, but LE has Stacy's phone records and ping records. IIRC the ping at 9pm was in Shorewood by Rosetto's home.

IMHO Drew was trying to frame Scott for Stacy's murder/disappearance. Or trying to make his "story" about how Stacy left him for another man more credible....

[dee10134]

So....... if Thomas Morphey DID help DP dispose of Stacy, has he said WHERE they disposed of it???????

Or did Thomas Morphey only load the barrel into the Denali then leave DP to drive off where ever he disposed of Stacy? Which then makes sense that he just dumped her off the back of his truck somewhere and not actually carried her deep into the woods, because if the barrel was so heavy that DP needed another man to help, then he certainly couldn't have carried it deep into the woods somewhere.

IMHO I think he pulled up to a boat ramp and dumped it off of a dock or ramp somewhere. I don't think he could have carried the barrel a long distance by himself...

[SeriouslySearching]

I thought what was said to clergy was confidential???:innocent:I would think the clergyman would have been obligated to tell LE if someone came to confess a murder. However, she wasn't confessing to anything, but repeating hearsay and speculation that Drew killed Kathleen. The confidentiality applies only up to the death of the person confiding to the clergy, is my understanding.

[close_enough]

Suzi & Thoughtfox..(btw, hi there TF! ... waving)

i moved yall's links to the media links thread..i've got to go, but wanted them somewhere i could find them without digging thru the thread...:)

[SuziQ]

I thought what was said to clergy was confidential???:innocent:

I think that depends on what type of Clergy and what the circumstances the information was given to the Clergy. And Clergy have been known to come forward and face the consequences later.

And an FYI and warning to everyone, if a lawyer can make a legitimate argument as to why confidental information of any type is important to his case and the judge agrees. Confidentiality can be overuled. That's exactly what happened to the girl who accused Kobe Bryant of rape and that is how her psych records were used against her.

[SuziQ]

Suzi & Thoughtfox..(btw, hi there TF! ... waving)

i moved yall's links to the media links thread..i've got to go, but wanted them somewhere i could find them without digging thru the thread...:)

Great idea, and thank you.

[SeriouslySearching]

So....... if Thomas Morphey DID help DP dispose of Stacy, has he said WHERE they disposed of it???????

Or did Thomas Morphey only load the barrel into the Denali then leave DP to drive off where ever he disposed of Stacy? Which then makes sense that he just dumped her off the back of his truck somewhere and not actually carried her deep into the woods, because if the barrel was so heavy that DP needed another man to help, then he certainly couldn't have carried it deep into the woods somewhere.

IMHO I think he pulled up to a boat ramp and dumped it off of a dock or ramp somewhere. I don't think he could have carried the barrel a long distance by himself... Supposedly, he dropped Tom off at his house right after they loaded the container about 10:00 pm. Tom only lives a mile or so from Drew. This gave Drew until 11:26 pm before he got the call from Cassandra where he was out of breath and putting his keys in his ignition. They should draw a circle around Drew's house about an hour out and search from there.

You do raise a valid point. How did Drew move the container alone from the truck to deposit it? Pushing it off the back of the SUV sounds plausible. If he dropped it from a bridge, he would have to lift it over the side and there would be a chance the container would open on impact of the water...then what would he do? He surely wouldn't dump it near a boat ramp because the water wouldn't be deep enough to conceal it. It makes me wonder now if he did dispose of her in water. It would be easier to dig a hole and back up to it.

[DeltaDawn]

I thought what was said to clergy was confidential???:innocent:

To a priest this would have been confidential if said within the confessional.
To a lay person in the catholic church it would not have been..and it may have been said in a counseling session with a priest or clergy member present..then it would not be confidential.
And the clergy person may not be catholic, they could be protestant and then if they felt she was in danger they may have given this info to police soon after she went missing.
Remember they were in marrage counseling..it could have been through the church..and this could have been in a one on one session with Stacy.

[TGIRecovered]

...or maybe Stacy said to the clergy: "If anything happens to me please tell certain authorities...

[mysteriew]

Yeah, but LE has Stacy's phone records and ping records. IIRC the ping at 9pm was in Shorewood by Rosetto's home.

IMHO Drew was trying to frame Scott for Stacy's murder/disappearance. Or trying to make his "story" about how Stacy left him for another man more credible....

Yes, and that kind of takes away from the credibility of Morph's statement. Drew P says that he talked to Stacy. Morph says that he was told not to answer the phone and that when the phone rang the caller ID said Stacy. Drew P would know that LE would know how long the phones were in use. I think Morph was told to answer the phone and he did.

[TGIRecovered]

I think Morph was told to answer the phone and he did.

Very good theory...since for all we know the part about him not answering may have come from what he told his friend on the phone, not necessarily what police may know now.

[SuziQ]

To keep things in the right thread I'm going to post the below information on the Rossetto and cal sag connection here,
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...t=56677&page=9 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56677&page=9)

******

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterso...acy112807.stng (http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/672255,stacy112807.stng)

Although they’ve found nothing concrete, investigators speculate that Stacy Peterson’s body may have been dumped near Rossetto’s Shorewood town house, sources say.

***
Is the Cal Sag river that is being searched near Shorewood, IL. ?

[SuziQ]

Thanks Dee, I see you answered in the Morphey thread. So call sag is not near Shorwood. So what river are the barges being used to clear debris to make it safe to search?

[SuziQ]

Delaney posted this in the barrel thread


Quote:
Originally Posted by delaney
State Police are looking under the bridge in Lockport which crosses the I&M canal and the Des Plaines River. Last night on the NBC Local News this was confirmed, as a picture of the bridge from the base was shown, with searchers on horseback. I am going out to do a visual later. We have had several low flying State helicopters in the area since yesterday.

[Leila]

ok, i'm going to ask a question & i'm not downing Stacy, don't get me wrong here......

i read somewhere that DP said that Stacy was his alibi for the time period when Kathleen died....does anyone think that Stacy knew all along that DP murdered, or had Kathleen murdered?

do you think that DP held this fact over Stacy's head for awhile, & that's why she went to a priest/minister to confess???

i think DP made Kathleen out to be a monster & that's why Stacy went along with DP in harrassing Kathleen at her home...like flipping her off in her yard, & making a video of Kathleen arguing/fighting with DP...

just want to get some thoughts on this....

According to some reports Stacy was only 15 or 16 when she became involved with DP. At that age, and without a strong father figure in her life, she probably accepted all that DP said and did as the right thing to do. After all, in her young mind, policemen don't do anything wrong and are our heros. I think at her young age she may have initially accepted DP's explanation that Kathleen's death was accidental. When the coronor's jury ruled it was accidental, that was all the more reason to believe DP.

Later, after they were married and Stacy matured, things DP said and did may have given her doubts. They may have argued and he let something slip during the heat of the argument. As the marriage went downhill and the arguments were frequent, he probably told her, "yes I killed her, and made it look like an accident, and the coroners jury believed it was an accident. If you don't straighten up, the same thing can happen to you."

I think Stacy's understanding may have been a gradual process, going from accepting that Kathleen's death was accidental, to doubts and suspicion, to fully understanding that Kathleen was murdered by DP. I think she may have felt guilt for anything she may have done in harassing Kathleen, and felt trapped, and that may have prompted her to seek out the clergyman.

[mysteriew]

It seems as though every time Drew P opens his mouth, he gives up more to marvel at about what an a** he is.

But everytime his attorney speaks, he gives just a little bit more new info.

this. Drew had 4900 hours of accrued personal time at the job after 29 years. He was due to retire in about 45 days on December 15th.

If he didn‘t use those accrued - those accrued personal hours, he would lose them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22025190/

Okay, Drew was not due to retire until Dec. 15th. The usual procedure when you have accrued time is to put in your notice and to then take your accrued time until it runs out. But instead Drew P turns in his resignation in Nov. By turning it in early, that means he just shorted his pension. If Drew P was only leaving work to be home with the children, he would have just used all of that personal time until his regular retirement date. More evidence that what we suspected was true. Drew P was in deep doo-doo at work and feared what action was being taken against him.
So thank you Mr. Brodsky for confirming our suspicions.

[Leila]

Interesting that she told a clergyman. It then mentions she told 2 others close to her that she issued the ultimatum to Drew that Sunday she went missing...my bet is that one of those others is Cassandr, the other either Sharon or SCOTT R.
This makes perfect sense as to why Cassandra went looking for her right away..she knew abut the earlier confrontation, probably knew about other things too..so she knew something awful had happened to Stacy.
I think the clergyman, Cassandra and Sharon have all been in contact with the police , as well as ThomasM right from the beginnning. It wasn't a long time at all between missing person to probable murder.

I think you might be right on target! In one of the reports it stated that when Cassandra went to the Peterson home at 11:00pm on Sunday and finding that DP wasn't home, she spoke with one of the two older boys - I think Kris (age 13 or 14) - and that he had told her that his mom and dad had an argument and his dad was out looking for mom. Cassandra also said that the boy told her something else and she declined to state what that was. I've remembered this little detail as I was very curious about what it was that Cassandra wouldn't say.

[grace60]

Yeah, but LE has Stacy's phone records and ping records. IIRC the ping at 9pm was in Shorewood by Rosetto's home.

IMHO Drew was trying to frame Scott for Stacy's murder/disappearance. Or trying to make his "story" about how Stacy left him for another man more credible....

If the ping in shorewood was at 9pm Morphy was with him. In the timeline it said Drew took Morphy home at 10pm.

[dee10134]

...or maybe Stacy said to the clergy: "If anything happens to me please tell certain authorities...

Good point.

[dee10134]

Yes, and that kind of takes away from the credibility of Morph's statement. Drew P says that he talked to Stacy. Morph says that he was told not to answer the phone and that when the phone rang the caller ID said Stacy. Drew P would know that LE would know how long the phones were in use. I think Morph was told to answer the phone and he did.

OR DP talked to his own voice mail for a few minutes then when he got his phone back from Morph, he deleted the voice mail and VOILA! he has a record of "Stacy" having a conversation with him. IDK if a voice mail call would register as a call that was completed or not... I'm assuming yes it would... idk though.

[dee10134]

If the ping in shorewood was at 9pm Morphy was with him. In the timeline it said Drew took Morphy home at 10pm.

What time did they meet at Starbucks?

[SuziQ]

If the ping in shorewood was at 9pm Morphy was with him. In the timeline it said Drew took Morphy home at 10pm.

Drew left Morphy at Starbucks with his phone and a call from Stacy came in at 9PM. Stacy's phone pinged in Shorewood. Obviously Drew was setting it up.

[SuziQ]

Sometime between 7-9pm

[dee10134]

It IS possible then that Drew left the phone with Morph at Starbucks, left for about a half hour or so to drive to Shorewood and place the call, then back again, all by 10 pm.

FYI: It's about 25 minutes one way from Bolingbrook to Shorewood and on a dark Sunday night, DP probably made it there and back in 35-45 minutes...

[dee10134]

Excellent article: http://www.nbc5.com/news/14710779/detail.html?dl=mainclick

[DeltaDawn]

If the ping in shorewood was at 9pm Morphy was with him. In the timeline it said Drew took Morphy home at 10pm.
Drew took Morphy home at 10PM..but he also left him alone in Starbucks for quite sometime..meaning Drew was calling on Stacy's phone to his phome which his brother had at Starbucks..that and the weight and size and warmth of the box Drew asked his brother to move after they returned from Starbucks say everything..Drew was setting up his brother and / or Scott to take the fall if people didn't beleive his runaway wife story.

[SuziQ]

It IS possible then that Drew left the phone with Morph at Starbucks, left for about a half hour or so to drive to Shorewood and place the call, then back again, all by 10 pm.

FYI: It's about 25 minutes one way from Bolingbrook to Shorewood and on a dark Sunday night, DP probably made it there and back in 35-45 minutes...

IIRC, they went back to Drews around 10pm then Drew took Morphey home after that, around 11pm? The Cassandra called Drew at around 11:35, when she heard him out of breath and putting the key in the ignition. How long of a drive to the 9th Street brigde in Lockport?

[SeriouslySearching]

Excellent article: http://www.nbc5.com/news/14710779/detail.html?dl=mainclick
When Peterson returned to pick up his children, she asked how the relative was doing. "He said, 'Lost his job, lost his family,"' Bychowski told the AP.

Wasn't it his wife that called the ambulance for the overdose? Another lie from Drew?!

[SuziQ]

The below is an update from Greta about Drew's friend Steve. I will post a link to the audio when it comes up:

by Greta Van Susteren
A CHANGE OF OPINION WITH THE NEWS ABOUT STACY AND THE CLERGYMAN??? OR NOT ???

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/gretacast.jpg (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/eavesdrop-on-my-conversation-with-sgt-peterson-friend/2343/)
In the next half hour I will post a new GretaCast….and you can eavesdrop on my conversation with Sgt. Peterson’s friend…. a friend who has stood by him from the beginning……I asked the friend if he still believed in his Drew’s innocence after the news today that Stacy told a clergyman that Drew killed Kathleen…..or was his opinion changing with the report???
check back in and listen to GretaCast…I am working on posting it..

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[i.b.nora]

Oh darn, you beat me to it. It will be interesting if the guy is seeing the light yet.

[Taximom]

When Peterson returned to pick up his children, she asked how the relative was doing. "He said, 'Lost his job, lost his family,"' Bychowski told the AP.

Wasn't it his wife that called the ambulance for the overdose? Another lie from Drew?!

Yes! I mentioned that earlier on one of these threads. I thought he told Sharon "lost his wife". Hmmm. Anyway, more lies from DrewP.

Then one of the news articles said Morphey has a girlfriend, not wife. So maybe he did lose his family and now he has a girlfriend?

I can't keep up anymore. :doh:

[Leila]

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/steph11.thumbnail.jpg (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/check-out-this-email-from-bolingbrook/2345/)
Check out the email I just got from OTR Producer Steph Watts in Bolingbrook, Illinois…I have intentionally deleted the name of the clergyman …..the email shows you a number of things — including, yes, thanks to the tipster who led us to the clergyman!! we could not have found him without the tip to the tip box on this website....
From: Watts, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Tarrant, Angela; Howard, Cory
Subject: Mark and I just spoke to [name deleted]

He ministered Stacey and knows Drew. He confirmed that one of pastors
spoke with stacy. During a session stacy confesed that she knew drew
killed his third wife. Pastors have an obligation to come forward to law
enforecemnt if they feel there is an immediate threat and even a past
crime if that person could be recipiant of violence. We don’t know when
the pastor spoke to police. They will not appear on camera. We have
located who we believe is the actual pastor and we are on our way to him
now.

[Leila]

I hit post too quick in the above reply. The above is the latest report from Greta. I think tonight's On The Records is going to be very very interesting!

Edited to add........very interesting that the tip that led to the clergyman came from one of the tips in Greta's tipster box at Gretawire.

[SuziQ]

I hit post too quick in the above reply. The above is the latest report from Greta. I think tonight's On The Records is going to be very very interesting!

Edited to add........very interesting that the tip that led to the clergyman came from one of the tips in Greta's tipster box at Gretawire.

LOL, Don't delete your post, I will delete mine!

[SuziQ]

Oh darn, you beat me to it. It will be interesting if the guy is seeing the light yet.

lol, I don't know how I did, I am way behind today. And really too tired to search much. But I can't stop. :banghead:

[i.b.nora]

Link to the Greta clergy post:

Check out this email from bolingbrook/ (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/check-out-this-email-from-bolingbrook/)

[indallas2]

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/steph11.thumbnail.jpg (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/check-out-this-email-from-bolingbrook/2345/)
Check out the email I just got from OTR Producer Steph Watts in Bolingbrook, Illinois…I have intentionally deleted the name of the clergyman …..the email shows you a number of things — including, yes, thanks to the tipster who led us to the clergyman!! we could not have found him without the tip to the tip box on this website....
From: Watts, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Tarrant, Angela; Howard, Cory
Subject: Mark and I just spoke to [name deleted]

He ministered Stacey and knows Drew. He confirmed that one of pastors
spoke with stacy. During a session stacy confesed that she knew drew
killed his third wife. Pastors have an obligation to come forward to law
enforecemnt if they feel there is an immediate threat and even a past
crime if that person could be recipiant of violence. We don’t know when
the pastor spoke to police. They will not appear on camera. We have
located who we believe is the actual pastor and we are on our way to him
now.

WOW, this case is twisting and turning all over the place.

DP has GOT to know that the walls are closing in on him.

[SuziQ]

Greta update regarding the Clergyman:

After Steph sent me the above email I called him and he said, “you won’t believe it…we just ran into and talked to the VERY clergyman Stacy spoke to…..” Steph talked to that clergyman and confirmed for us all the reports….

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/check-out-this-email-from-bolingbrook/

[chicoliving]

So where's Drew P today??

[Taximom]

C'mon Chico, you know he's taking care of his kids!

[Angelray]

Wish the children where with anybody except him.

[SeriouslySearching]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: C'mon Chico, you know he's taking care of his kids! Yes, since he will surely be up for the Father of the Year award!

[Taximom]

Wish the children where with anybody except him.

Me too. :( Hopefully he's not with them 24/7 and someone decent is watching over their safety.

[mysteriew]

AP has an interesting article

Police Accused of Protecting Their Own
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9LSLrzFQGStXb1io5FdErAtFFKgD8T7IRFG1

[Taximom]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Yes, since he will surely be up for the Father of the Year award!

I hear he's up for Husband of the Year as well.

:D

I'm sorry. It's so sad that Stacy is somewhere and we can't find her.

[SeriouslySearching]

Me too. :( Hopefully he's not with them 24/7 and someone decent is watching over their safety.Brother Paul has been there.

[Littledeer]

Hey guys, haven't been here in a few. Just direct me to where it says "DP HAS BEEN ARRESTED!"

If he hasn't been, better direct me to where I should start in all these threads to catch up fast!

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/gretacast.thumbnail.jpg (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/eavesdrop-on-my-conversation-with-sgt-peterson-friend/2343/)

Drew’s friend and neighbor Steve has believed Drew from the beginning… and he found wife #3 dead! Listen here, Steve talks about the new reports of Stacy’s alleged confession and possible scenarios presented by Mark Fuhrman…. is he starting to be suspicious? Listen here, you decide.

Click below on the blue icon…

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/eavesdrop-here-does-drew%e2%80%99s-friend-still-believe-him/ (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/29/eavesdrop-here-does-drew%e2%80%99s-friend-still-believe-him/)

[mysteriew]

LOL, LD. No arrest, but quite a bit is going on. Probably your best bet would be to check out the Stacy thread, the barrel thread, and the Morphey thread.

[Littledeer]

I'm working on it as fast as I can myster!! I am going to have to retire to keep up here!!!!

Can someone clarify something for me though? I thought at the beginning that Cass had been calling Stacy throughout the day on Sat. (Oct/28th)to make sure she was okay. (Now wasn't that day a Saturday?) And she was declared missing on Sun. 10/29th????)

[fran]

I'm working on it as fast as I can myster!! I am going to have to retire to keep up here!!!!

Can someone clarify something for me though? I thought at the beginning that Cass had been calling Stacy throughout the day on Sat. (Oct/28th)to make sure she was okay. (Now wasn't that day a Saturday?) And she was declared missing on Sun. 10/29th????)

I believe the date is 10/29 because Cassandra didn't decide to report Stacy missing until after she went back by DP's house and saw both cars there and still couldn't reach Stacy. By then it was after midnight, 12:30, and by the time she was done IIRC, it was 4:00A.M.

JMHO
fran