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Liz
11-30-2007, 06:47 PM
Just saw this on Greta Wire. Can someone listen and report back as I am unable! Details, Please!

Sorry that subject should have read, Drews get VISIT from Child Protective Services

Littledeer
11-30-2007, 06:57 PM
Liz:

That wouldn't surprise me one bit as over on the findstacy site, that is their main worry. THEY WANT THE KIDS OUT OF DP'S HOUSE!!!!

Link to Greta so I can listen? My speaker is on now.

mysteriew
11-30-2007, 07:00 PM
LD, it is one of the first posts
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

click on the blue box (box, not barrel)

Littledeer
11-30-2007, 07:05 PM
LOL

grace................

are you sure it's a BOX and not a BARREL??????????????

Thanks for the link!

Liz
11-30-2007, 07:12 PM
Littledeer, sorry bout forgetting the link. :doh:

Thanks for providing it, Mysteriew! :)

From reading the comments over at Greta's, it sounds like the visit from CPS was last week; and that they must have concluded the children were fine!

Littledeer
11-30-2007, 07:17 PM
liz

LOL..................sat and waited for over 5 minutes and got nothing. Cambe back to give you the sad news.....

LOL................no problem. HOWEVER, THOSE CHILDREN SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THAT HOUSE ASAP in my opinion. Events are happening every second it seems and I am so worried that DP is going to snap and hurt those children!!

You know the men that say, If I can't have her/them "no one will".........

concernedperson
11-30-2007, 07:21 PM
Littledeer, sorry bout forgetting the link. :doh:

Thanks for providing it, Mysteriew! :)

From reading the comments over at Greta's, it sounds like the visit from CPS was last week; and that they must have concluded the children were fine!

It seems so. Steve sounds like a put together man...very calm...very self assured and willing to back his dad. Almost like the chapters in the book aren't written and he doesn't see the writing on the wall. It is hard to believe he is a police officer but that could be part of it too. His only worry (that I could see) is that the Grand Jury could be tainted by the media coverage. Strange dynamics.

Littledeer
11-30-2007, 07:29 PM
How strange is it that your a police officer watching your nephews/nieces and your father who also happens to be a police officer is in the media every day for suspicion of murder?

How does Steve not think like a police officer every second and wonder if good old Dad is guilty of murder and yet keep so calm??

Liz
11-30-2007, 07:35 PM
It seems so. Steve sounds like a put together man...very calm...very self assured and willing to back his dad. Almost like the chapters in the book aren't written and he doesn't see the writing on the wall. It is hard to believe he is a police officer but that could be part of it too. His only worry (that I could see) is that the Grand Jury could be tainted by the media coverage. Strange dynamics.


Hi CP --- I'm confused. The "Steve" at Gretawire is supposed to be Drew's friend Steve, not his police officer son, Steve. But I'm unable to listen, so you tell me.


Littledeer, my thoughts echo yours about the children. I'm concerned for their safety. IF their father really was so concerned about them, he would allow the kids to go stay with friends or relatives, where they could exercise a little anonymity and freedom!

SuziQ
11-30-2007, 07:41 PM
It is Drews friend Steve. And on the audio Steve relayed that Drew said he doesn't know the sister? They were talking about Tom's sister who emailed Greta last night. Drew doesn't know his half sister?

Littledeer
11-30-2007, 07:42 PM
Liz:

I jumped the gun on Steve from CP's post, I've only heard/read that it was DP'S friend (Steve Ceraco (sp?) that has been at the house and not his son.

Maybe CP can verify which Steve it is.

concernedperson
11-30-2007, 07:55 PM
Hi CP --- I'm confused. The "Steve" at Gretawire is supposed to be Drew's friend Steve, not his police officer son, Steve. But I'm unable to listen, so you tell me.


Littledeer, my thoughts echo yours about the children. I'm concerned for their safety. IF their father really was so concerned about them, he would allow the kids to go stay with friends or relatives, where they could exercise a little anonymity and freedom!Maybe that is why he was so put together as he wasn't Steve the son but the friend. I need to listen again. Sorry if I caused any confusion.

Liz
11-30-2007, 08:00 PM
Maybe that is why he was so put together as he wasn't Steve the son but the friend. I need to listen again. Sorry if I caused any confusion.


Its not hard to confuse me CP. lol I wasn't sure as I cannot hear when I click on the blue box. But Greta's heading says, Drew's "friend".

concernedperson
11-30-2007, 08:09 PM
Its not hard to confuse me CP. lol I wasn't sure as I cannot hear when I click on the blue box. But Greta's heading says, Drew's "friend".

What he said was "since I am on the bad side" and I thought he said dad's side. My hearing is getting worse every day so turn up the volumn is the best advise for me to me.

Liz
11-30-2007, 08:18 PM
What he said was "since I am on the bad side" and I thought he said dad's side. My hearing is getting worse every day so turn up the volumn is the best advise for me to me.


Well that's probably an easy mistake to make! Now, pump up the volume! ;)

SuziQ
11-30-2007, 08:38 PM
What he said was "since I am on the bad side" and I thought he said dad's side. My hearing is getting worse every day so turn up the volumn is the best advise for me to me.

I can see how that would happen. lol.

itsreenw
12-02-2007, 06:55 AM
If CPS doesn't step in and remove those kids, they will have the children's blood on their hands if dp does what I think he will do in the end.

He isn't smiling for the cameras anymore, the first sign that the investigation has struck a nerve. Dp is a control freak. He is the king of his castle and I believe he will commit suicide and take his kids with him. He has no concern for them. He has put the teenage sons through this twice. He hates his wives more than he loves his kids. He will kill them rather than let the wives' families get them and being the 'victim' of these women and their bad upbringings as he alleges, he will probably leave a suicide note blaming Kathleen, Stacy and their families for his actions. JMHO.

I hope Greta or someone starts putting pressure on CPS before it's too late.

SeriouslySearching
12-02-2007, 07:19 PM
I agree. It is always the scariest time when a father has his children and they are turning up the heat on him. Hopefully, CPS will make frequent visits and remove them if they suspect anything at all.

Littledeer
12-02-2007, 09:36 PM
reen:

Reading your post made me sick to my stomach as I aslo agree with you.

I've been posting here and there about the kids safety..............I don't see much over at the findstacy site about them, but I am praying that is because they don't want DP to know anything in case he or Paul is reading everything from that site.

Maybe, HOPEFULLY, they have hired an attorney who is processing the legal paperwork to remove the childen from a "possible hostile environment" that could endanger their lives!!!

I'm not sure that CPS can do anything without verification that any child has been abused or hurt. I don't think they have the legal authority to remove children based on only fears that something will happen.

chiperoni
12-03-2007, 04:28 AM
It looks like DP is beginning to fall apart; No more being the jokester. The kids need to be safe and right now the whole situation is so volatile someone from CPS needs to step in.

JanetElaine
12-03-2007, 09:26 AM
I really honestly do not understand why children are left with someone who is a suspect in the disappearance of their (step) mother, or any human being for that matter. I just can't wrap my brain around that. Are we here the only ones who see this as a disaster waiting to happen? Sure seems like it...

TGIRecovered
12-03-2007, 10:03 AM
I really honestly do not understand why children are left with someone who is a suspect in the disappearance of their (step) mother, or any human being for that matter. I just can't wrap my brain around that. Are we here the only ones who see this as a disaster waiting to happen? Sure seems like it...

We need a new provision in family law for the realatives of a missing or murdered spouse to be able to ask for the children to be removed to a safe place while the police investigate the spouse.

Susan

JanetElaine
12-03-2007, 10:24 AM
We need a new provision in family law for the realatives of a missing or murdered spouse to be able to ask for the children to be removed to a safe place while the police investigate the spouse.

Susan

Well in this case that would help, but what if the spouse is actually innocent and one of the family members did it... that way the kids actually get from the safe place to the bad one.

The idea is good, but I'm more thinking along the lines that anybody who is an actual suspect in a crime (or certain crimes) shouldn't be allowed to keep their children with them physically unless and until they are cleared... And I'm seriously wondering why the heck there isn't a law or regulation about this yet!

lorann
12-03-2007, 11:55 AM
Those children need to be out of there!!!!! Even though many guns have been taken out of the house, there may be more hidden somewhere or some other means. As things close in, this disturbed person may again just do something stupid. He knows what will happen if (when) he is incarcerated, knows probably more than we do. We can't expect him to do the right thing... As the pressure must be mounting for him, it is vital that the kids are safe. His good friend Steve should suggest to dp that the kids need to be somewhere else until he is cleared - would Steve want it on his conscience if dp hurt them?

SeriouslySearching
12-03-2007, 01:27 PM
While we may have already convicted DP in our minds, they have not charged him with any crimes. If the children are not being abused or neglected according to CPS, the legal standing remains with the parent left in the home...in this case, the father.

I don't believe a law would ever be passed to remove children from someone who has not yet been arrested or charged. This would go against the constitution.

The case of the teacher's husband shooting and killing her highschool BF in the driveway was given a legal right to his children AFTER he was charged. She and the children are still on the run, as far as I know.

JanetElaine
12-03-2007, 01:50 PM
While we may have already convicted DP in our minds, they have not charged him with any crimes. If the children are not being abused or neglected according to CPS, the legal standing remains with the parent left in the home...in this case, the father.

I don't believe a law would ever be passed to remove children from someone who has not yet been arrested or charged. This would go against the constitution.

The case of the teacher's husband shooting and killing her highschool BF in the driveway was given a legal right to his children AFTER he was charged. She and the children are still on the run, as far as I know.

I diagree that this would go against the constitution.... look at sex offenders who aren't allowed near children. That law passed, or whatever it is, anyway - that's allowed. I'm sure they could draw up something to make sure that children in situations like these are kept safe. These children have constitutional rights too. :twocents: IMO

SeriouslySearching
12-03-2007, 01:53 PM
Not until the person has been charged with a crime! This is where I think it does become a constitutional issue. You can't just walk in with NO evidence and remove the children without cause. No charges=no cause.

Removing children from a suspected sex offender is entirely different. They cannot allow the person being investigated to remain in the same home with possible victims of such abuse. However, in DP's case, there is no suspected abuse of the children...only the spouse.

JanetElaine
12-03-2007, 02:09 PM
You're right, but there is where I think they need to expand - if the adult with whom a minor lives is an official suspect in the disappearance or murder of another human being they need to be better safe than sorry and remove all minors from the care of the suspect. They do that stuff all the time while investigation home situations, why not now....

SeriouslySearching
12-03-2007, 02:41 PM
So in other words, change the law so that anytime a person goes missing...the children are automatically removed because the first person LE looks at is the spouse. This could mean the children are taken away even if the missing person is alive and well...but walked away instead. This would open the flood gates for every spouse that wants to be vindictive. They would just leave a few days, make it look like the spouse had something to do with their disappearance, and let CPS come get the kids.

JanetElaine
12-03-2007, 02:59 PM
So in other words, change the law so that anytime a person goes missing...the children are automatically removed because the first person LE looks at is the spouse. This could mean the children are taken away even if the missing person is alive and well...but walked away instead. This would open the flood gates for every spouse that wants to be vindictive. They would just leave a few days, make it look like the spouse had something to do with their disappearance, and let CPS come get the kids.

No no, I did not mean (or say) that. I said when the adult in the home where minors are living is an official suspect. That's different than just any spouse of a missing person, and early in this thread I spoke up against just such a thing.

TGIRecovered
12-03-2007, 03:03 PM
I think that there should be some level of involment proven such as preponderance of the evidence as in civil court, but to wait until the prosecution feels they have all they need to prove to the higher standard of reasonable doubt puts children in unnecessary jepardy, IMO.

Besides, I believe it is abusive to children to have to live in a home in which a parent is being abused, whether the child gets hit or not, it does them permanent damage to witness this. And I refuse to believe that a spouse who beats up his or her partner is capable of being a proper loving non-abusive parent.

SeriouslySearching
12-03-2007, 03:12 PM
No no, I did not mean (or say) that. I said when the adult in the home where minors are living is an official suspect. That's different than just any spouse of a missing person, and early in this thread I spoke up against just such a thing.OK! Actually, I had worried about the children in *ahem* another case I won't mention...and wished they could remove them for the same reasons and in that case...there is no suspect, but only a POI.

While I think it would be a good law, I just don't think it would ever be passed.

JanetElaine
12-03-2007, 03:16 PM
OK! Actually, I had worried about the children in *ahem* another case I won't mention...and wished they could remove them for the same reasons and in that case...there is no suspect, but only a POI.

While I think it would be a good law, I just don't think it would ever be passed.

I'm trying to think if I know which case you mean... lol. Have to look around WS some.

I don't think any such law will ever happen either... but it sure would be nice. Instead we can just sit here and worry about those kids and hope and pray their dad won't go ballistic on them...