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[RandyMucha]

Drew has placed orange cones acros the end of his driveway and posted a no trespassing sign in his front yard.

[SeriouslySearching]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Drew has placed orange cones acros the end of his driveway and posted a no trespassing sign in his front yard.What does he think this will do for him?! Keep the people having the vigil from using his driveway to park in?! LOL

[chicoliving]

At some point yesterday afternoon, someone sympathetic to Drew, put a few orange construction cones out in front of his house on the street, so no one could park there. This morning, Drew’s brother, Paul informed us of the plan: to pull a big truck up in front of his house to block the view from the media–and the street in the process.

Earlier this morning, his brother, Paul put orange cones on the street…

Undaunted, an enraged Sharon told me she called the cops. Then, had friends hustle 4 cars into the “saved” spots. It was a frenetic scene there for a few minutes!

I told Sharon this was like the Hatfields and McCoys. Her reply: “No, this is a man who murdered his wife!”

All this drama, and the vigil is still hours away.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/


It just never ends!

[SeriouslySearching]

At some point yesterday afternoon, someone sympathetic to Drew, put a few orange construction cones out in front of his house on the street, so no one could park there. This morning, Drew’s brother, Paul informed us of the plan: to pull a big truck up in front of his house to block the view from the media–and the street in the process.

Earlier this morning, his brother, Paul put orange cones on the street…

Undaunted, an enraged Sharon told me she called the cops. Then, had friends hustle 4 cars into the “saved” spots. It was a frenetic scene there for a few minutes!

I told Sharon this was like the Hatfields and McCoys. Her reply: “No, this is a man who murdered his wife!”

All this drama, and the vigil is still hours away.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/


It just never ends!Wow! I like Sharon more every day!! What a smart woman she is! I bet DP is fuming bigtime!

My first thought when they mentioned the large truck was, "Driver...move that bus!!"! LOL

[Rum Tum Tugger]

Greetings Chico ..

Just a quick note of appreciation to you for including all the past 9 links to this thread in your post. Most thoughtful and much appreciated!

Smiles n' good thoughts to you ... :)

Rum Tum

[Taximom]

Sharon, YOU ROCK!!

I'm so glad someone like her lived next to Stacy and was her friend.

I feel so sorry for those young kids in his care. You know from all his maddening behavior that they just aren't getting the care they truly need.

[SeriouslySearching]

I wish Drew would allow the kids to take part in this vigil for Stacy. It would be good for them to be with people who love them and are willing to give them the support they need. They deserve time to grieve and be with people who realize their mother is gone for good...instead of hearing she is out there and has simply abandoned them.

Of course, we know this will never happen. Drew is a selfish person and his children are way down on his list of priorities.

[dee10134]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: What does he think this will do for him?! Keep the people having the vigil from using his driveway to park in?! LOL

Doncha know? LE is severely allergic to orange cones. They cannot cross them because they're like kryptonite to them, therefore they won't be able to arrest DP.

[Taximom]

If I lived there I'd get a roll of yellow "crime scene" police tape and string it around his yard.

Oh, I forgot the kids would probably see that. Never mind.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, they need to be careful because of the children. However, it wouldn't stop me from putting up a "display" on my home of Stacy's photo with her children and doing a makeshift memorial for her. This would be a positive thing.

[Mygirlsadie]

I hope someone is keeping an eye on Sharon.. You know people who cross DP are known to come up missing or dead. :rolleyes:

[Leila]

Drew has placed orange cones acros the end of his driveway and posted a no trespassing sign in his front yard.

Thanks Randy! I think it's interesting that Stacy's family and the searchers will be holding a vigil in front of DP's home. This has to be wearing on his nerves! Although, I just can't see DP confessing. He'll go kicking and screaming, denying he had anything to do with her disappearance.

[chicoliving]

Jamie Colby from Fox News just did an update about the search and vigil. She showed the new "no tresspassing" sign Drew has in his yard. Sounds like he's hunkered down!

[SeriouslySearching]

Jamie Colby from Fox News just did an update about the search and vigil. She showed the new "no tresspassing" sign Drew has in his yard. Sounds like he's hunkered down!Yes, I caught that, too. She also mentioned he tried to stop the vigil. I wonder how he tried to go about doing that?

[Leila]

At some point yesterday afternoon, someone sympathetic to Drew, put a few orange construction cones out in front of his house on the street, so no one could park there. This morning, Drew’s brother, Paul informed us of the plan: to pull a big truck up in front of his house to block the view from the media–and the street in the process.

Earlier this morning, his brother, Paul put orange cones on the street…

Undaunted, an enraged Sharon told me she called the cops. Then, had friends hustle 4 cars into the “saved” spots. It was a frenetic scene there for a few minutes!

I told Sharon this was like the Hatfields and McCoys. Her reply: “No, this is a man who murdered his wife!”

All this drama, and the vigil is still hours away.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/


It just never ends!

And everything DP says or does just adds more to his image - the image of a guilty man. If he was so innocent, why wouldn't he welcome a prayer vigil for his missing wife?

[SeriouslySearching]

I think it's interesting that Stacy's family and the searchers will be holding a vigil in front of DP's home. This has to be wearing on his nerves! Although, I just can't see DP confessing. He'll go kicking and screaming, denying he had anything to do with her disappearance.They are doing it to put pressure on Drew and to let the children know there are people who truly care about Stacy.

[i.b.nora]

Another Email from Colleague Jeff Goldblatt in Bolingbrook (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/01/another-email-from-colleague-jeff-goldblatt-in-bolingbrook/)

by Greta Van Susteren
December 1st, 2007 4:33 PM Eastern
FNC’s Jeff Goldblatt just sent me this email….

From: Goldblatt, Jeff
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Watts, Stephen; Howard, Cory
Sent: Sat Dec 01 16:20:58 2007
Subject: Update

So Drew seems to have reverted to Plan B in his apparent effort to shield his house from the media, and in the process, meddle with the vigil for Stacy, the mother of his two kids.

He put a handful of orange cones directly in front of his driveway. And he hammered a small “no trespassing” sign into the frozen turf outside his house. Before driving in that first bang, he paused a few seconds and looked around, as if he wanted to be certain there were news crews on hand to document his handiwork.

I’m now done for the day. And the timing couldn’t be any better. The snow has changed to freezing rain. It is downright NASTY outside. In fact, they called off the search a few hours early.

Until next time. Best…

[i.b.nora]

FoxNews with Jamie Colby is on now, reporting from the soon to start vigil.

She will be reporting from there intermittently for the next two hours.

Greg Jarrett asked her something about he had heard Drew has asked for an autopsy on Kathleen but, Jamie
couldn't hear his question, so it went unanswered.

[Littledeer]

Any links to this broadcast? Is it still on?

My prayers and thoughts for all those volunteers and the family all day today. I was so hoping.............

[chicoliving]

Jamie mentioned that she talked with the owners of Kathleen Saivo's old house (which is just down the street) and the bathtub is the same.

[i.b.nora]

Any links to this broadcast? Is it still on?
Its on TV and will go for the next hour and forty minutes. Fox News Channel.

[Littledeer]

So chico, what does that mean? Can investigators from the LE or the Coroner's Officer be able to see the bathtub now?

Now sure what your post is meaning??

[Littledeer]

nora:

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

Going now to see if it's on!

Well, it's not on here on the East Coast side (Cleveland area) :(:(

[JanetElaine]

I hope someone is keeping an eye on Sharon.. You know people who cross DP are known to come up missing or dead. :rolleyes:

Yep. But at least with Sharon people have seen she's anywhere from 'depressed'. :rolleyes:

[chicoliving]

So chico, what does that mean? Can investigators from the LE or the Coroner's Officer be able to see the bathtub now?

Now sure what your post is meaning??


It just means the original tub where Kathleen was found is still available for any investigation if needed.

[JanetElaine]

And everything DP says or does just adds more to his image - the image of a guilty man. If he was so innocent, why wouldn't he welcome a prayer vigil for his missing wife?

My thoughts exactly!!!

[Tom'sGirl]

[quote=chicoliving;1827959]At some point yesterday afternoon, someone sympathetic to Drew, put a few orange construction cones out in front of his house on the street, so no one could park there.

O/T but regarding neigbor, maybe DP got this idea from them???

Cynthia Vitiritti lives across the street from serial husband Drew Peterson in Bolingbrook.

~snips
And she's just about fed up with all the TV celebrity cable news crews that camp outside her front door, waiting for a break in the sensational case of the mysterious disappearance of the former police sergeant's young wife Stacy.

The TV crews have stomped the sod in her parkway half to death and sometimes block her driveway. But she has a plan to aggravate them back, just a little.

"I'm thinking of something, a plan," Vitiritti told me Thursday, standing on her front stoop, yellow police tape ringing her front lawn to keep the TV reporters off. "It's aggravating. Every day. Day after day after day, they're out there."
They show up with their bright lights at 4 a.m. and stay on deep into the night, rolling cable, relentlessly taking videos of the Peterson home, standing out in the street, in the biting winds. To keep warm, a few TV types have been cozying up to the neighbors who may know something, ingratiating themselves, bringing little gifts such as news network salt-and-pepper shakers and so on.

http://tinyurl.com/2tk7m5 (http://tinyurl.com/2tk7m5)

[chicoliving]

Not O/T at all! Could be!

[SeriouslySearching]

Can investigators from the LE or the Coroner's Officer be able to see the bathtub now?

Yes, if they choose to see it and investigate further. The family living there now seem to be very cooperative. Wecht mentioned checking the tub to see if the water slowly leaks down the drain, but this was early on before he met with Brodsky.

[dee10134]

It just means the original tub where Kathleen was found is still available for any investigation if needed.

Can you imagine being the one to buy that house and possibly not knowing at the time of closing what had happened there, only to suddenly have this sprung on you that a woman died there in the very tub you take your baths in?

It makes me shudder.

[i.b.nora]

The important thing is that the tub needs to have the original stopper.

[Littledeer]

I feel so bad for those people who are now living in that house. Does a "official search warrant" needed to go into the house now to conduct any tests on the bathtub"?

[Littledeer]

chico:

Thanks for the explanation.

[Tom'sGirl]

The important thing is that the tub needs to have the original stopper.

Lets hope it does i.b.nora, and just may have the same one.

I never realized my patio tub leaked until I filled it to the top one day and and had to leave. The next day most of the the water had leaked out, but the leak was nothing I had ever noticed while bathing.

[Littledeer]

What kind of stopper are we talking about here?

One that needs to be put in the hole, or one that is used by a lever??

Mine is used by a lever and leaks if I have not pulled up the stringer all the way properly. But if we are talking about a stopper, that would be one that goes inside the hole.

IMO

[dee10134]

OMG from the findstacypeterson site: http://findstacypeterson.com/forum/index.php?topic=578.0;prev_next=next#new

Quote from: magpie on Today at 05:34:49 PM (http://findstacypeterson.com/forum/index.php?topic=595.msg8469#msg8469)
I typed this up from the live report on FOX and posted it on the other forum I update:

FOX News Alert!


Release from Illinois State Police: On 10/29/07 Drew Peterson and another man with salt and pepper hair approched 2 men at a truck stop asked the truck drivers to transport a package to another location.

The other man is described as a stocky man, mid 50's with salt and pepper hair. Drew Peterson was positively identified by the men.

The truck drivers also said that Drew told them they (the truck drivers) were to take the large package on their truck to another undisclosed place, where Drew and the other man would then regain the package and take it themselves to yet another location that would not be accessable by an 18 wheeler.

Illinois State Police are asking for imformation from anyone else who might have been approached by Peterson and the other man.

[i.b.nora]

We already have a thread for that. Let's add new info there.

[Tom'sGirl]

What kind of stopper are we talking about here?

One that needs to be put in the hole, or one that is used by a lever??

Mine is used by a lever and leaks if I have not pulled up the stringer all the way properly. But if we are talking about a stopper, that would be one that goes inside the hole.

IMO

We aren't specifying what type water stopper the tub may have, it could be lever controlled, push/pop release type, or lift'n'turn type.

I would consider a 'drain plug' to be one that goes inside the hole, like used in older bath & wash tubs and drains. I doubt that would have been the case in that tub.

[Littledeer]

Tom:

If we look at the pics of the tub that we have, it is not a standard tub, but a smaller one, so, I am thinking more of a level controlled type.

Actually, this needs to go to the Kathleen Savio thread.

[SuziQ]

http://newsweek.com/id/73095

But Sharon Bychowski (http://www.newsweek.com/related.aspx?subject=Sharon+Bychowski), next-door neighbor of the Petersons, believes the 13-year-old has information that will be helpful to the authorities. A close friend of Stacy's who often watched her kids, Bychowski said she talked to the boy after her disappearance. "I think he heard them fighting. And then he heard them stop fighting," she told NEWSWEEK. "I have no doubt that kid knows something."

[SeriouslySearching]

Cassandra said to be ready to see the new article in Newsweek. I guess it is coming out Monday instead of tomorrow like she mentioned on the family site. She said it would put him away for life! I can't wait to see that one! I know I am not the only one that wants to see him put away...or given the DP.

That is ironic. We say DP all the time here for Death Penalty. Now we keep saying DP in reference to Drew Peterson.

[DeltaDawn]

I am still trying to figure in Stacy's car and how that will work in the scheme of things. The cadaver dogs hit in only two places we know know of (meaning they may have hit on more and that info has not been released)..the bedroom and Stacy's car. And both cars were missing for sometime Sunday evening. Could brother Paul have helped in the moving of the vehicles..and at some point Stacy's body must have been in the car itself or the trunk. But it's the truck that everyone keeps saying held the box , the barrel..
Anyone have any thoughts about her car and what Drew was doing with it on Sunday night? Especially with the new info on Drew's appearance at the truck plaza..it seems Drew was moving her body around alot, yet the cadaver dogs never hit on his truck, that we know of yet.

Could he have moved her body into the car at the Clow airfield and then used her car in the disposal, while possibly Paul followed in the Denali? Or maybe Paul followed in his own car?

[JanetElaine]

http://newsweek.com/id/73095

But Sharon Bychowski (http://www.newsweek.com/related.aspx?subject=Sharon+Bychowski), next-door neighbor of the Petersons, believes the 13-year-old has information that will be helpful to the authorities. A close friend of Stacy's who often watched her kids, Bychowski said she talked to the boy after her disappearance. "I think he heard them fighting. And then he heard them stop fighting," she told NEWSWEEK. "I have no doubt that kid knows something."

Great. Now at least I went from worried for those kids to very worried. :(

[JanetElaine]

"I wish something would happen one way or the other," he said. "Let's get this going. Either get me or don't get me."

Ooooh that is funny. This is what DP said, from the newsweek link SuziQ posted. Gee, sorry for the inconvenience Drew.... how horrible it must be to not have your own life in your own hands anymore and having to wait for other people's actions to know whether you're going to be carry on with life or be cut off. Yanno, to have this shadow hanging over your head. Sound familiar? I'm sure Kathleen and Stacy would recognize it. :mad: Jerk.

[TGIRecovered]

DeltaDawn wrote:

The cadaver dogs hit in only two places we know know of (meaning they may have hit on more and that info has not been released)..the bedroom and Stacy's car.


I have a couple of thoughts on that.

It could be that shortly after handling Stacey's body (sorry) Drew moved Stacey's car so it would look like she left in the car, since that is what he told people. Would that have been enough to transfer "dead body smell" to her car?

If they did not detect cadaver smell in the Denali I can't explain that. Maybe they purposefully misled Drew to think they did not detect it just to see his reaction, knowing that her body had been in there.

Remember, at first Drew thought that he would be able to influence the investigation, if there was any. He did not bank on having to quit so abruptly.

If I were one of the investigators, I would be feeding Drew lies all over the place and waiting for him to slip up and correct me. He is such an egotist he wouldn't be able to resist being right.

Susan

[SuziQ]

Does anyone remember what day it was that Drew went from ranting at the media to courting them? I always thought it was odd he changed overnight. It was like he had some info that gave his confidence a boost. As in suddenly a big problem in him getting away with this crime was suddenly solved.

[SuziQ]

I'm still not sure Drew was talking about Clow when he said "whatchamacalit". And he was spotted putting stickers on his plane. His plane was at a different airport, and the name of it escapes me right now.

[DeltaDawn]

Wasn't pretty soon after he got back from his 3 day bike trek for clearing his head?

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
OTR Producer Cory Howard emailed me pics from the vigil for Stacy Peterson last night:

(pics at link)

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/02/stacy-peterson-vigil/

[SuziQ]

Wasn't pretty soon after he got back from his 3 day bike trek for clearing his head?

The last night he ranted at the media he was unloading the car. Was that when he came back from "clearing his head?". That was also the night he chased Sharon down, Tim Miller called him and Cassandra retrieved Tina's ashes. Then suddenly everything is hunky dory and Drew starts having fun.

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
More pics from OTR Producer Cory Howard who was at the Stacy Peterson vigil yesterday - Saturday - in Bolingbrook:

(pics at link)

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/02/2437/

[Pepper]

I'm still not sure Drew was talking about Clow when he said "whatchamacalit". And he was spotted putting stickers on his plane. His plane was at a different airport, and the name of it escapes me right now.
Have the cadaver dogs been to the plane? Could DP have used the plane to drop her weighted body into the middle of Lake Michigan?

[Pocono Sleuther]

Have the cadaver dogs been to the plane? Could DP have used the plane to drop her weighted body into the middle of Lake Michigan?


Excellent idea Pepper! I haven't even considered the plane being involved.

[SuziQ]

Have the cadaver dogs been to the plane? Could DP have used the plane to drop her weighted body into the middle of Lake Michigan?

The plane in question is pretty much a kite with a lawnmower engine. Barely above the treetop type flying. The weather has to be absolutely perfect to fly. Ric Mims said he hadn't been in it much because there was either a scheduling issue or the weather was a problem. IMO, you couldn't fly this thing and dump a body from it without crashing the plane.

[DeltaDawn]

Drew's plane was an ultra light and that possiblity has sort of been ruled out due to the fact it has open cockpit, fairly unstable aircraft.

[cricket]

"I wish something would happen one way or the other," he said. "Let's get this going. Either get me or don't get me."


Drew acts like this is a game. It is eerily reminiscent of Scott Peterson and the "deadly game" he was playing with Modesto police. I hope DP meets the same fate - arrested and convicted!

[SuziQ]

"I wish something would happen one way or the other," he said. "Let's get this going. Either get me or don't get me."


Drew acts like this is a game. It is eerily reminiscent of Scott Peterson and the "deadly game" he was playing with Modesto police. I hope DP meets the same fate - arrested and convicted!

Oh yeah, you reminded me of how far Scott was going to take his deadly game. When he was arrested he was going after Amber and had a "kit" in the car he was driving.

[cheko1]

Wonder how DCMISP likes playing the game life w/o parole in San Quentin?

Even DP should be wondering what his odds are of winning the game he's playing? I'd sure not want to be in his shoes........

[Pepper]

The plane in question is pretty much a kite with a lawnmower engine. Barely above the treetop type flying. The weather has to be absolutely perfect to fly. Ric Mims said he hadn't been in it much because there was either a scheduling issue or the weather was a problem. IMO, you couldn't fly this thing and dump a body from it without crashing the plane.
Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't aware the plane was so small.

[chicoliving]

I'm still not sure Drew was talking about Clow when he said "whatchamacalit". And he was spotted putting stickers on his plane. His plane was at a different airport, and the name of it escapes me right now.

I think its Cushing Field


http://www.airnav.com/airport/0C8

[maiseyjane]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but my brother thought of this..

I live about 5 minutes away from Bolingbrook and they just completed the construction for the I-355 extension (in which part of it is in or right by Bolingbrook). At the time of Stacy's disappearance, the construction was still going on. My brother and his friends were saying that they think it could have been possible for Drew to go out there and bury the container under some of the stones before the pavement was layed down.

It's just a theory. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion about that or if anybody has any construction knowledge and thinks this could be a possiblity.

[i.b.nora]

Maisey – I think you should enter that as a tip at GretaWire. On the right hand side,
underneath the first advertisement you can send tips (anonymous if you like)
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[Camper]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but my brother thought of this..

I live about 5 minutes away from Bolingbrook and they just completed the construction for the I-355 extension (in which part of it is in or right by Bolingbrook). At the time of Stacy's disappearance, the construction was still going on. My brother and his friends were saying that they think it could have been possible for Drew to go out there and bury the container under some of the stones before the pavement was layed down.

It's just a theory. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion about that or if anybody has any construction knowledge and thinks this could be a possiblity.


--->>>What date was it layed down, or better question what dates were any part of it layed immediately AFTER Stacy disappeared?

Crews did not work in the wee hours did they?

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[SuziQ]

I think its Cushing Field


http://www.airnav.com/airport/0C8

Thank you! It was driving me nuts.

[SuziQ]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but my brother thought of this..

I live about 5 minutes away from Bolingbrook and they just completed the construction for the I-355 extension (in which part of it is in or right by Bolingbrook). At the time of Stacy's disappearance, the construction was still going on. My brother and his friends were saying that they think it could have been possible for Drew to go out there and bury the container under some of the stones before the pavement was layed down.

It's just a theory. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion about that or if anybody has any construction knowledge and thinks this could be a possiblity.

And it's a great theory. You know it's rumored that when Ted Bundy was a teen his first victim, a neighbor girl who dissapeared, was buried in the road that was being layed nearby. My sister lived in that neighborhood and Ted Bundy was her newspaper boy. No one really suspected Ted till many years later.

Alot of victims have been disposed of that way.

ETA: Kiplyn Davis from Utah is supposed to be under an office building. And the "three missing women" from Missouri are rumored to be under a parking lot.

[maiseyjane]

--->>>What date was it layed down, or better question what dates were any part of it layed immediately AFTER Stacy disappeared?

Crews did not work in the wee hours did they?

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I'm not sure exactly when it was layed down but I know they were working on it during the time of her disappearance. The extension is 12 miles and goes from I-55 to I-80, so if the part by Bolingbrook was already layed down, there may still have been other parts of it that were not.

As far as I know, I don't think the crews were working on it during the wee hours, but I can't be 100% certain of that.

I do know that it would have been possible for him to drive to it if he went around the road block signs.

[maiseyjane]

Maisey – I think you should enter that as a tip at GretaWire. On the right hand side,
underneath the first advertisement you can send tips (anonymous if you like)
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

i.b.nora-Thanks for the link. I think I'll go ahead and submit it. I would think that they would've thought of that, but I haven't heard anythiing about them even mentioning that possibility around here. My uncle lives a few streets behind Drew, so he drives by a lot of the searches and hears a lot about where they seem to be looking and he hasn't heard anybody mention I-355 either.

[mysteriew]

"I wish something would happen one way or the other," he said. "Let's get this going. Either get me or don't get me."


Drew acts like this is a game. It is eerily reminiscent of Scott Peterson and the "deadly game" he was playing with Modesto police. I hope DP meets the same fate - arrested and convicted!

The impression I get is that DrewP was a patrol officer, not a detective or involved in a lot of the investigative area. And from what I have seen, LE will take statements they recieve from the suspect and compare them to not only the evidence, but also to the public statements.

Now LE hasn't been saying what evidence they have, and they haven't contradicted much that DrewP has been saying. But I think they now know a large percentage of what happened, of exactly where DrewP went that day and who he talked to. I just wonder if they haven't been sitting back and keeping quiet in order to watch what DrewP has been saying and to give him more rope to hang himself. But as DrewP now looks like he isn't going to talk anymore, LE has no longer has reason to put off arresting him.

[Dryad]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but my brother thought of this..

I live about 5 minutes away from Bolingbrook and they just completed the construction for the I-355 extension (in which part of it is in or right by Bolingbrook).

I'm in the area too, and remember the I-355 extension opened for the first time on November 12th.

[Leila]

I am still trying to figure in Stacy's car and how that will work in the scheme of things. The cadaver dogs hit in only two places we know know of (meaning they may have hit on more and that info has not been released)..the bedroom and Stacy's car. And both cars were missing for sometime Sunday evening. Could brother Paul have helped in the moving of the vehicles..and at some point Stacy's body must have been in the car itself or the trunk. But it's the truck that everyone keeps saying held the box , the barrel..
Anyone have any thoughts about her car and what Drew was doing with it on Sunday night? Especially with the new info on Drew's appearance at the truck plaza..it seems Drew was moving her body around alot, yet the cadaver dogs never hit on his truck, that we know of yet.

Could he have moved her body into the car at the Clow airfield and then used her car in the disposal, while possibly Paul followed in the Denali? Or maybe Paul followed in his own car?

I agree. While Thomas Morphey only transferred the container from the upstairs bedroom to the Denali, DP may have transferred the container to Stacy's car. With both the Denali and Stacy's car in the driveway of the Peterson home at 2:30am, and DP and another man at a truck stop at 3:30am trying to find a trucker to transport a package, this suggests a third car was involved.

[SeriouslySearching]

After Drew killed Stacy, wouldn't her scent still be on him when he moved her car from the airport? Could this be why the dog hit on her car?

Also, we don't know officially what the dogs hit on...because the report came from Sharon...not LE.

It doesn't mean a third car was involved! After the phone call from Bruce and after Cassandra last saw the vehicles in the driveway....Drew and probably Paul simply drove the Denali to the truck stop. The body could still have been in the Denali while it was sitting in the driveway in front of his house....maybe he was waiting until he thought Cassandra had gone home and would leave him alone long enough for him to go to the truck stop. After he had not seen or heard from her in an hour...he felt the coast was clear.

[Leila]

Kimberly Guilfoyle is reporting on this on her program, The Lineup. Right now she interviewing Reem Odeh, one of DP's attorneys. She's excusing DP's behavior as "people react to tragedy differently."

Defense attorney, Mickey Sherman, says DP is hurting himself by all the media interviews and his treatment of the press. He says the evidence is damning. Pat Brosnan, former NYPD detective, says the statistical probability is that DP is either guilty or the most unlucky in the world. He says his behavior now - not showing grief, etc. will come back to haunt him.

[grace60]

Kimberly Guilfoyle is reporting on this on her program, The Lineup. Right now she interviewing Reem Odeh, one of DP's attorneys. She's excusing DP's behavior as "people react to tragedy differently."

Defense attorney, Mickey Sherman, says DP is hurting himself by all the media interviews and his treatment of the press. He says the evidence is damning. Pat Brosnan, former NYPD detective, says the statistical probability is that DP is either guilty or the most unlucky in the world. He says his behavior now - not showing grief, etc. will come back to haunt him.

I think Brodsky was really tired of digging the hole in all by. He needed some help to get the job done. Odeh is doing a fine job now.

[Leila]

Kimberly is interviewing Laurrie Bingehheimer, friend of Lisa Stebic, and Pam Bosco on the two cases. Pam says that the news of TM help moving the barrel and the news of the clergyman, all fall into their time line.

Interviewing Dr. Baden. Convinced that the KS death is homocide because of the original autopsy report findings, and the numerous bruises that point to a struggle in which she was beaten up. Dr. Baden in still in Bolingbrook.

[Leila]

I think Brodsky was really tired of digging the hole in all by. He needed some help to get the job done. Odeh is doing a fine job now.

Odeh is really toned down compared to Joel Brodsky. At least she's not making disparaging remarks about people who come forward with information.

[SeriouslySearching]

Great recap, Leila! Thanks!

[SeriouslySearching]

Odeh is really toned down compared to Joel Brodsky. At least she's not making disparaging remarks about people who come forward with information.I agree. It is like playing good cop/bad cop. She is the more sedate one of the two. She is trying to garner some sympathy (not working) for Drew and his children.

[nanandjim]

Odeh is really toned down compared to Joel Brodsky. At least she's not making disparaging remarks about people who come forward with information.
She doesn't seem very polished to me. She is young and attractive, though. Wonder who she is dating? ;)

[DeltaDawn]

She doesn't seem very polished to me. She is young and attractive, though. Wonder who she is dating? ;)


Now we know why Drew hired Brodsky..she's the assistant on the case...old Drew can't let an opportunity like that slip by, can he?

[cricket]

After Drew killed Stacy, wouldn't her scent still be on him when he moved her car from the airport? Could this be why the dog hit on her car?

Also, we don't know officially what the dogs hit on...because the report came from Sharon...not LE.

It doesn't mean a third car was involved! After the phone call from Bruce and after Cassandra last saw the vehicles in the driveway....Drew and probably Paul simply drove the Denali to the truck stop. The body could still have been in the Denali while it was sitting in the driveway in front of his house....maybe he was waiting until he thought Cassandra had gone home and would leave him alone long enough for him to go to the truck stop. After he had not seen or heard from her in an hour...he felt the coast was clear.


So far, Sharon has been the only source regarding which car the dogs hit on. I find her to be an incredibly bright and articulate person; however, I wonder if LE could have asked Sharon to purposely lie to the media about which car it was? If she reports it was Stacy's car, when in fact it was the Denali, that would just feed into DP's ego that he's pulling this off and that he is going to get away with it. If I were LE, I would want DP thinking they have less on him than they actually have.

[chicoliving]

I think its too late now and Drew can't show any grief...his story is that she up and left him. He can't very well wring his hands and sob that "she's missing" when his story from the get go is that she left him according to a conversation he says they had. He's stuck with the "she left me" story and there's not much else he can do and still be consistent with his story.

[Camper]

I think its too late now and Drew can't show any grief...his story is that she up and left him. He can't very well wring his hands and sob that "she's missing" when his story from the get go is that she left him according to a conversation he says they had. He's stuck with the "she left me" story and there's not much else he can do and still be consistent with his story.




--->>>Welllll, yes he could, at least put on a sad face particularly IF IF IF he really loved her. He could look at least downtrodden, he could look humbly at the ground, he could put some glycerin in his eye to produce one or two tears. (They used to do that in the movie business, IF IF the star could not wring out a tear or two in a scene.)

How'd the old song go, "You took a fine time to leave me Lucille, with five ) hungry children and the crops in the field." Was that a Kenny Rogers song, I cannot remember.

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[Taximom]

I think its too late now and Drew can't show any grief...his story is that she up and left him. He can't very well wring his hands and sob that "she's missing" when his story from the get go is that she left him according to a conversation he says they had. He's stuck with the "she left me" story and there's not much else he can do and still be consistent with his story.

And we all know he'd look just like Scott Peterson did when he was trying to cry!

[chicoliving]

Hopefully we'll be spared! :p

[Leila]

This past week has been a roller coaster with a stream of new reports. In all of the newest information reported to the media, there's a lot more we don't know.

The blue barrel or rectangular container: We know that DP's step-brother, Thomas Morphey, helped DP move it from the bedroom to the Denali. But, we still don't know which neighbor saw them move it. We also know that Thomas Morphey spent about two hours with DP at a coffee shop prior to moving the container. What did P tell Thomas? We know that Thomas Morphey attempted suicide the day after he helped DP move the container. But many questions remain. Where is Thomas Morphey? Is he in a rehab facility? Does he have police protection? And, most importantly, what else did he tell LE. I think Thomas gave the police a lot of information, beyond the events of October 28th, and they've been working with this information.

The coffee shop: Mark Fuhrman finding the coffee shop (Krispy Kreme) where DP and Thomas Morphey met, and the video tape that shows two men entering the shop at about 7:35pm and leaving at 9:21pm is a big clue.

The clergyman: It was reported last week that Stacy confided to a clergyman in August that her husband had killed his previous wife, Kathleen Savio. We know that at some point, after it was learned that Stacy was missing, the clergyman felt compelled to tell LE what he knew. But, beyond the killing of his previous wife, what else did Stacy tell the clergyman that might have a bearing on her disappearance?

The truckers: The trucker's story of DP and an unidentified man (with salt and pepper hair, stocky build, about 50 yrs. old) approached them in the wee hours of October 29th. According to their story, DP and his companion approached them at about 3:30am on October 29th and asked them to transport a "package" to another location where they would pick it up. My guess is that these truckers told law enforcement a lot more about this incident. I bet LE has a pretty good idea of who DP's companion was, the destination of the "package", the size of the package, and other details that haven't been made public.

What will this week bring? I hope Greta follows up on all the information of last week. An interview with the trucker who encountered DP and a companion in the truck stop on October 16th would be a good interview, and give us more detail on exactly why this is important to the case.

Of course, we all would like to see an arrest happen in the case, and I feel that might happen soon.

[Mygirlsadie]

I am still worried about Sharon... does anyone know if she is under any type of police protection?

[JanetElaine]

Thank you so much for the summary, Leila! Awesome work.

[Taximom]

Thank you very much, Leila. Great summary.

[Camper]

Great post Leila!!!

Question:

The coffee shop: Mark Fuhrman finding the coffee shop (Krispy Kreme) where DP and Thomas Morphey met, and the video tape that shows two men entering the shop at about 7:35pm and leaving at 9:21pm is a big clue.

-->>What time did the young son hear DP & SP fighting? Was the fight BEFORE 7:35 PM or AFTER 9:21 PM? WHO was watching the children prior to the 7:35 PM meeting at the donut shop??

Guess we don't know the time of the fight. IF IF IF the fight was before DP left to go meet Tom, Stacy must have been alive.

SOOOO IF IF IF she was killed AFTER she put the children to bed,say ?? between 7:35 and 9:21 she would have been alive when DP got home after 9:21 PM. IF IF IF Tom was with DP when DP came home, was he there when the kiling happened? OR DID Tom drive away with Stacy's car and could that have been the cause of the fight?

Too many unanswered questions here.

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[SeriouslySearching]

Camper, I believe the son who talked to Cassandra was speaking about the morning of Oct. 28, the day she went missing. The oldest son living in the home seems to be the one with the children most of that day and night, but DP normally used Sharon to watch them.

[SeriouslySearching]

I am still worried about Sharon... does anyone know if she is under any type of police protection?With the news crews camped out at her home and in front of her home, she has more "protection" than LE can give her. LOL She is in good hands.

Great update, Leila! This case is moving so fast, it is difficult to keep up!

[Camper]

Need some catch up here.

Correct me IF IF I am wrong.

The little boy told of the fight that happened the morning of the 28th between DP and Stacy, right? He said quiet followed the fight the morning of the 28th, right?

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[TGIRecovered]

Yes, SS is correct. The fight heard by the boy was on the morning she disappeared. The last time anyone outside that home spoke with her was around 10 am when the Cassandra's friend called Stacey about painting later that evening.
By shortly after 11, Drew was telling anyone who asked that Stacy had left before he woke up, supposedly at 11am.
Later that day, the boy told Cassandra that his dad told him that Stacy went to Grandpa's house. Grandpa says he did not have plans to see Stacey that day and she did not contact him at all.
I believe that Stacey died between the call at about 10:15 am and 11am when Drew says he woke up and she was gone. JMO.

Susan

[SeriouslySearching]

I believe that would be right...that Stacy was "gone" shortly after she had a conversation with Bruce. (Was that an actual phone call...or was that a text message? I can't remember now!)

[TGIRecovered]

With the news crews camped out at her home and in front of her home, she has more "protection" than LE can give her. LOL She is in good hands.

Great update, Leila! This case is moving so fast, it is difficult to keep up!

I'd like to see Drew stuck in a room with Sharon just long enough for Sharon to kick his whiney butt. I think she is pissed enough to take him down.

[Taximom]

Can you imagine the hustle and bustle that was going on in the Peterson home when he killed Stacy? You have 4 kids at home, who are probably used to a certain routine on Sundays. They are probably allowed free reign into the parent's bedroom typically. Mommy usually makes them something to eat or has coffee etc after she wakes up. Daddy probably comes down and tells a bunch of funny jokes.

However, that morning the kids hear them fighting. Then they hear nothing, or maybe they hear someone hitting the floor, wall or furniture.

I imagine Drew was quite active afterwards trying to figure out what he was going to do next. Possibly a little nervous only that the kids would see what had happened. He's locking doors, maybe, to keep them out of the bedroom. Or bathroom where maybe he placed her body till he could dispose of her.

He's running around finding barrels and containers and tape and maybe some kind of chemical to throw off the scent..... Geez, I can't imagine what it was like that day around there.

They had to notice something was up, but it probably didn't mean much to them because they were probably told "mommy doesn't feel well so don't bother her", then "mommy went to grandpa's".

My kids know that if my van is in the driveway, I'm usually still home....

[SeriouslySearching]

I'd like to see Drew stuck in a room with Sharon just long enough for Sharon to kick his whiney butt. I think she is pissed enough to take him down.I would say that Cassandra AND Sharon should be given equal time. LOL

[SeriouslySearching]

Can you imagine the hustle and bustle that was going on in the Peterson home when he killed Stacy? You have 4 kids at home, who are probably used to a certain routine on Sundays. They are probably allowed free reign into the parent's bedroom typically. Mommy usually makes them something to eat or has coffee etc after she wakes up. Daddy probably comes down and tells a bunch of funny jokes.

However, that morning the kids hear them fighting. Then they hear nothing, or maybe they hear someone hitting the floor, wall or furniture.

I imagine Drew was quite active afterwards trying to figure out what he was going to do next. Possibly a little nervous only that the kids would see what had happened. He's locking doors, maybe, to keep them out of the bedroom. Or bathroom where maybe he placed her body till he could dispose of her.

He's running around finding barrels and containers and tape and maybe some kind of chemical to throw off the scent..... Geez, I can't imagine what it was like that day around there.

They had to notice something was up, but it probably didn't mean much to them because they were probably told "mommy doesn't feel well so don't bother her", then "mommy went to grandpa's".

My kids know that if my van is in the driveway, I'm usually still home....You know, I had not really thought about what actually was going on in the home with the kids that morning. (Shame on me!)

The younger kids would normally get up around sevenish, if they were on a normal schedule. Stacy would have already given them breakfast and had them going for the day.

Who was supposed to be watching the kids if she was going to go paint? She knew Drew would be asleep if he worked the night before. Did they depend on the older children to watch them often? Maybe the fight first started because she demanded that Drew get up to watch them so she could go?

If the fight then escalated and he killed her...where did he leave her? With the chance the children could find her...maybe this is where the "container" came into play. He went ahead and stuffed her into it (it was probably there because she was loading his things into it!) because rigor would set in and later he would not be able to do this.

[DeltaDawn]

I'd like to see Drew stuck in a room with Sharon just long enough for Sharon to kick his whiney butt. I think she is pissed enough to take him down.


I agree, about now Sharon would be a real match for him..but I think she's way smarter then Drew.

Anyway, the news crews and all the action going on outside in the neighborhood came to my mind when Drew's Brodsky said Drew needed his guns back, incase he needed to fend off any possible crazies coming after him...
I thought that was such a ridiculous statement, considering the minute someone went forward toward the house they'd be on local and national news..no one is going to try to hurt Drew..his lawyer is doing a good enough job of that himself.

[Taximom]

I would say that Cassandra AND Sharon should be given equal time. LOL

:D I know there wouldn't be much left after they were with him, but can we have the scraps?! :D

[DeltaDawn]

I think that she was definitely murdered that Sunday morning.

By 2:30 PM Drew was CALLING OFF work because was Stacy was gone.

My question is..didn't they children go over to Sharon's for a short time in the afternoon ? Didn't one of the children tell her Mom and Dad had a bad fight..and Sharon thought the child seemed frightened?

Then Cassandra is trying to reach Stacy..I am thinking possibly Cassandra may have called Sharon and known something horrible was happening. We know that by 11PM she was fairly certain of that

[SeriouslySearching]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :D I know there wouldn't be much left after they were with him, but can we have the scraps?! :D
:liar: Sure! It would take awhile to take out his growing nose!

[SuziQ]

Can you imagine the hustle and bustle that was going on in the Peterson home when he killed Stacy? You have 4 kids at home, who are probably used to a certain routine on Sundays. They are probably allowed free reign into the parent's bedroom typically. Mommy usually makes them something to eat or has coffee etc after she wakes up. Daddy probably comes down and tells a bunch of funny jokes.

However, that morning the kids hear them fighting. Then they hear nothing, or maybe they hear someone hitting the floor, wall or furniture.

I imagine Drew was quite active afterwards trying to figure out what he was going to do next. Possibly a little nervous only that the kids would see what had happened. He's locking doors, maybe, to keep them out of the bedroom. Or bathroom where maybe he placed her body till he could dispose of her.

He's running around finding barrels and containers and tape and maybe some kind of chemical to throw off the scent..... Geez, I can't imagine what it was like that day around there.

They had to notice something was up, but it probably didn't mean much to them because they were probably told "mommy doesn't feel well so don't bother her", then "mommy went to grandpa's".

My kids know that if my van is in the driveway, I'm usually still home....

And that is why I don't think this was preplanned. Drew may have been thinking about getting rid of Stacy eventually if he felt she was a threat to exposing the murder of Kathleen.

IMO, if this was preplanned he would not have killed her or taken actions to get rid of her with the kids around. He would have taken more care to make it look like an "accident". Obviously, whatever he did to Stacy he could not make look like an accident. The way he ran around here and there and involving other people reeks of him covering his a** because he didn't have a plan.

[Taximom]

I think that she was definitely murdered that Sunday morning.

By 2:30 PM Drew was CALLING OFF work because was Stacy was gone.

My question is..didn't they children go over to Sharon's for a short time in the afternoon ? Didn't one of the children tell her Mom and Dad had a bad fight..and Sharon thought the child seemed frightened?

Then Cassandra is trying to reach Stacy..I am thinking possibly Cassandra may have called Sharon and known something horrible was happening. We know that by 11PM she was fairly certain of that

That's right about the children going to Sharon's. Wasn't it around 1:00? Sharon went to the store earlier and was back right before noon, I thought. Didn't she call over to see if the kids could come over as she had treats for them? (She's so sweet!) Drew spoke to her I believe. What was his excuse again for not letting Sharon talk to Stacy?

That's what I don't get about the container being warm. I'm assuming she was dead by noon. By the time TM helps w/the "warm" container, it's been at least 8 hours or so since Stacy's death. Unless she was somehow dying slowly, and didn't die completely till later.

UGH, the thought sickens me. :sick:

[SuziQ]

I think that she was definitely murdered that Sunday morning.

By 2:30 PM Drew was CALLING OFF work because was Stacy was gone.

My question is..didn't they children go over to Sharon's for a short time in the afternoon ? Didn't one of the children tell her Mom and Dad had a bad fight..and Sharon thought the child seemed frightened?

Then Cassandra is trying to reach Stacy..I am thinking possibly Cassandra may have called Sharon and known something horrible was happening. We know that by 11PM she was fairly certain of that

Yes, when Sharon got back from the store and called to talk to Stacy because she had bought suckers for the kids. IIRC, the son answered and stammered and said Stacy was (where I can't remember). Drew sent the kids over there.

[Taximom]

I agree with you, SuziQ. I think this time his temper got the best of him and the fight went out of control.

Just the way he's lunged at some reporters in his driveway gives me the creeps. I imagine he was in her face like that all the time.

[dee10134]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but my brother thought of this..

I live about 5 minutes away from Bolingbrook and they just completed the construction for the I-355 extension (in which part of it is in or right by Bolingbrook). At the time of Stacy's disappearance, the construction was still going on. My brother and his friends were saying that they think it could have been possible for Drew to go out there and bury the container under some of the stones before the pavement was layed down.

It's just a theory. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion about that or if anybody has any construction knowledge and thinks this could be a possiblity.

MaiseyJane, the I-355 extension was pretty much completed by 10/28. It opened on 11/12, Veteran's Day (observed). IIRC, they were just completing the final phase, which pretty much was putting the lane paint on the road and putting up the signs. The pavement was down WAAAY before 10/28, so there's no way Stacy's in any concrete pilons or pavement.

[SuziQ]

I think Tom told Walter he knew Stacy was in the container because it was warm, because he didn't want to tell Walter the real reason he knew Stacy was in there. Really, unless the container was sitting on a heat vent, there is no reason for it to be warm. The container had sat there for over two hours while Drew and Tom sat at Krispy Kreme.

[DeltaDawn]

That's right about the children going to Sharon's. Wasn't it around 1:00? Sharon went to the store earlier and was back right before noon, I thought. Didn't she call over to see if the kids could come over as she had treats for them? (She's so sweet!) Drew spoke to her I believe. What was his excuse again for not letting Sharon talk to Stacy?

That's what I don't get about the container being warm. I'm assuming she was dead by noon. UGH, the thought sickens me. :sick:
By the time TM helps w/the "warm" container, it's been at least 8 hours or so since Stacy's death. Unless she was somehow dying slowly, and didn't die completely till later.


That is the same thought I had as soon as we heard the warm container story..Suppose she was beaten so badly she was barely alive, comatose maybe. Could that be the reason for all the barrels, boxes, asking truckers to transport her..because she wasn't dead yet..but Drew knew she would be within hours and he needed to get her body out of that house? Either that or he kept her body wrapped in an elctric blanket until that evening so rigor mortis wouldn't set in. I know that sounds far fetched..tha's why I was afraid to post it and even start down that road.

[SeriouslySearching]

I ran across this statement when looking for the date the kids went to get their candy from Sharon. BBPD said they were informed Stacy was missing after 4:00 am. I know we discussed this earlier that Cassandra had said she had already contacted them at 2:30am...but according to this article...she had not. My guess is that Cassandra did tell Drew that she already spoke to them to get his reaction.

"At approximately four in the morning, the family of Stacey Ann Peterson went into the Illinois State Police District 5 headquarters and reported her as a missing person. State police followed up with our department, sharing the information," said Lt. Ken Teppel.

Police say she was wearing a red jogging suit when she left. She was supposed to meet a family member to help paint a house.

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t11509.html

[SeriouslySearching]

I think Tom told Walter he knew Stacy was in the container because it was warm, because he didn't want to tell Walter the real reason he knew Stacy was in there. Really, unless the container was sitting on a heat vent, there is no reason for it to be warm. The container had sat there for over two hours while Drew and Tom sat at Krispy Kreme.Chico already went through this. The body only loses temperature at the rate of one degree per hour after death. At 80 degrees, it would still be "warm" to the touch by the time Tom helped move the container to the car if her body was in it.

[dee10134]

I am still worried about Sharon... does anyone know if she is under any type of police protection?

IMO Sharon doesn't need police protection. She's pretty much under 24/7 surveillance anyways... just by living next door to DP.

[SuziQ]

I ran across this statement when looking for the date the kids went to get their candy from Sharon. BBPD said they were informed Stacy was missing after 4:00 am. I know we discussed this earlier that Cassandra had said she had already contacted them at 2:30am...but according to this article...she had not. My guess is that Cassandra did tell Drew that she already spoke to them to get his reaction.

"At approximately four in the morning, the family of Stacey Ann Peterson went into the Illinois State Police District 5 headquarters and reported her as a missing person. State police followed up with our department, sharing the information," said Lt. Ken Teppel.

Police say she was wearing a red jogging suit when she left. She was supposed to meet a family member to help paint a house.

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t11509.html

Downers Grove PD and BBPD had bounced Cassandra around for hours before going to ISP. The original statement that Cassandra went to LE shortly after midnight is the correct one.

[Taximom]

I saw that discrepancy earlier and wondered what Cassandra had to say about it. I'm pretty sure she would know what time she filed a report!

Maybe she got there at 2:30 and it took that long for the actual report to be finalized? I also wonder if it got special treatment because one of their own was involved, so things had to be handled differently. The commander was probably home in bed and had to be alerted etc. (Just thinking out loud.)

Or LE just decided to wait till the bars were closed and people had time to get home.

:rolleyes:

[dee10134]

You know, I had not really thought about what actually was going on in the home with the kids that morning. (Shame on me!)

The younger kids would normally get up around sevenish, if they were on a normal schedule. Stacy would have already given them breakfast and had them going for the day.

Who was supposed to be watching the kids if she was going to go paint? She knew Drew would be asleep if he worked the night before. Did they depend on the older children to watch them often? Maybe the fight first started because she demanded that Drew get up to watch them so she could go?

If the fight then escalated and he killed her...where did he leave her? With the chance the children could find her...maybe this is where the "container" came into play. He went ahead and stuffed her into it (it was probably there because she was loading his things into it!) because rigor would set in and later he would not be able to do this.

Then why was the container still warm when TM helped DP move it? If DP murdered Stacy in the morning, wouldn't she be cold by the time TM assisted DP???

[TGIRecovered]

That's what I don't get about the container being warm. I'm assuming she was dead by noon. By the time TM helps w/the "warm" container, it's been at least 8 hours or so since Stacy's death. Unless she was somehow dying slowly, and didn't die completely till later.

UGH, the thought sickens me. :sick:


This is really gross, but I think that there would be some heat generated by decomposing flesh and body fliuds if the warm body were sealed in a container for several hours. At the very least, the enclosed space would slow down the cooling of the body and still feel warmer to the touch. A container filled with water or another liquid would feel cool to the touch.

[nanandjim]

I still can't get over what a psychopath DP is. It seems to me that only a murderer who had gotten away with it before would be so cavalier about murdering yet another person. In his wildest dreams, he didn't bank on this story being picked up by the media. Apparently, no one cared about Kathleen. So why would anyone care about Stacey?

[Taximom]

I'm having a hard time with the body still feeling warm after 8 hours. But whatever! If that's what TM felt, then that's what he felt.

[SuziQ]

Hmmmm, I'm wondering if I could gather enough jugs of warm water to put in a container to see what happens after a couple of hours?

[Taximom]

Nan, you're right. He knew he got away with Kathy, and Lord knows how many other crimes...he thought this would go under the radar too. Especially since Stacy's mom "disappeared".

[dee10134]

I ran across this statement when looking for the date the kids went to get their candy from Sharon. BBPD said they were informed Stacy was missing after 4:00 am. I know we discussed this earlier that Cassandra had said she had already contacted them at 2:30am...but according to this article...she had not. My guess is that Cassandra did tell Drew that she already spoke to them to get his reaction.

"At approximately four in the morning, the family of Stacey Ann Peterson went into the Illinois State Police District 5 headquarters and reported her as a missing person. State police followed up with our department, sharing the information," said Lt. Ken Teppel.

Police say she was wearing a red jogging suit when she left. She was supposed to meet a family member to help paint a house.

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t11509.html

IIRC, Cassandra first went to Downers Grove Police to report Stacy missing, but they turned her down and told her to go to Bolingbrook. I didn't know she went to the ISP to report Stacy missing, unless she notified Bolingbrook PD first then went to ISP to ensure they follow up?

[Taximom]

Hmmmm, I'm wondering if I could gather enough jugs of warm water to put in a container to see what happens after a couple of hours?

LOL, I'm sitting here looking at a container wondering how it could be tested. I think water would cool too quickly...

[SuziQ]

LOL, I'm sitting here looking at a container wondering how it could be tested. I think water would cool too quickly...

I do to. I wonder if my two lab mixes are up for it? :eek:

[DeltaDawn]

IIRC, Cassandra first went to Downers Grove Police to report Stacy missing, but they turned her down and told her to go to Bolingbrook. I didn't know she went to the ISP to report Stacy missing, unless she notified Bolingbrook PD first then went to ISP to ensure they follow up?


The Downers Grove sent her to BB and I think because it was BB she also took it upon herself at around 4-4:30 AM to go to the ISP. She did not want the case handled by BB for obvious reasons..she didn't trust them.

But she tried to make 3 missing persons reports on Stacy that night ...ISP being the last stop.

[SuziQ]

Chico's body heat calculation sounds accurate. I guess however Tom knew that Stacy was in the container, we can safely assume that Stacy was in a container. I wish someone would find the container!

[dee10134]

LOL, I'm sitting here looking at a container wondering how it could be tested. I think water would cool too quickly...

Does concrete have to be mixed with warm water???

[Taximom]

I do to. I wonder if my two lab mixes are up for it? :eek:

Good thing my kids are in school! :D

[Taximom]

Does concrete have to be mixed with warm water???

We have always used water right out of the faucet for our small concrete projects. My neighbor says in extreme cold you can use warm water, but that's not always handy.

The chemical reaction caused by everything mixing together causes heat, but I'm not sure that lasts a long time. Didn't think to ask about that....

I don't personally think concrete is involved. We don't typically have concrete bags laying around unless we are doing a project soon. Did he have concrete in his garage? Where did he toss the garbage if he did? I wonder if anyone went through his garbage?

[SuziQ]

Good thing my kids are in school! :D

Any little neighborhood kids around? lol, J/K!!!

[Taximom]

Well, there's one bratty kid next door.... He's about Stacy's age (and size!) and actually I'm sure his mom wouldn't mind if he went missing. LOL

[Leila]

I think that she was definitely murdered that Sunday morning.

By 2:30 PM Drew was CALLING OFF work because was Stacy was gone.

My question is..didn't they children go over to Sharon's for a short time in the afternoon ? Didn't one of the children tell her Mom and Dad had a bad fight..and Sharon thought the child seemed frightened?

Then Cassandra is trying to reach Stacy..I am thinking possibly Cassandra may have called Sharon and known something horrible was happening. We know that by 11PM she was fairly certain of that

I agree......she was probably killed Sunday morning. If I remember correctly, the phone call with her sister's friend, Bruce was shortly after 10:00am. Sharon said she had gone grocery shopping at 9:30 that morning and got home around 11:00am. She called the Peterson home just before noon and spoke to Kris (13 years old) who hemmed and hawed. DP got on the phone and said that Stacy had gone to grandpa's. Sharon said that she had bought the kids some Halloween lollipops and was calling to see if the kids could come over so she could give them the treats. DP told Sharon he would bring the kids over in a while. He brought them over about 1:00pm and asked Sharon if she could babysit for about a half hour as he had to run an errand.

I think the errand DP had to do was to get the container from the garage to the upstairs bedroom and put Stacy's body in it. He then stashed the container in the bedroom until he could get help moving it.

[close_enough]

I agree......she was probably killed Sunday morning. If I remember correctly, the phone call with her sister's friend, Bruce was shortly after 10:00am. Sharon said she had gone grocery shopping at 9:30 that morning and got home around 11:00am. She called the Peterson home just before noon and spoke to Kris (13 years old) who hemmed and hawed. DP got on the phone and said that Stacy had gone to grandpa's. Sharon said that she had bought the kids some Halloween lollipops and was calling to see if the kids could come over so she could give them the treats. DP told Sharon he would bring the kids over in a while. He brought them over about 1:00pm and asked Sharon if she could babysit for about a half hour as he had to run an errand.

I think the errand DP had to do was to get the container from the garage to the upstairs bedroom and put Stacy's body in it. He then stashed the container in the bedroom until he could get help moving it.

i think you're right, Leila..

i think Stacy was killed in the house, shortly after that 10 am phone call with Bruce....

[close_enough]

Then why was the container still warm when TM helped DP move it? If DP murdered Stacy in the morning, wouldn't she be cold by the time TM assisted DP???

hmmm, you have a point dee...this will sound far fetched, BUT.....maybe she was tied & gagged upstairs for a period of time?...gosh, i'm reeeeaching now..

[Vegas Bride]

What time was it Stacy was supposed to go help paint? If she didn't show up when expected and didn't call to let them know she'd be late then I think she was killed before that time.
This case is really getting to me on so many levels.
How horrible for those kids if they were in the house when their mother was being killed. Since the neighbor did see DrewP up close when he was at her house I wonder if there were any marks on him she could have noticed, a scratch or bruise maybe? I'd think Stacy would have put up a heck of a fight!

VB

[close_enough]

By the time TM helps w/the "warm" container, it's been at least 8 hours or so since Stacy's death. Unless she was somehow dying slowly, and didn't die completely till later.


That is the same thought I had as soon as we heard the warm container story..Suppose she was beaten so badly she was barely alive, comatose maybe. Could that be the reason for all the barrels, boxes, asking truckers to transport her..because she wasn't dead yet..but Drew knew she would be within hours and he needed to get her body out of that house? Either that or he kept her body wrapped in an elctric blanket until that evening so rigor mortis wouldn't set in. I know that sounds far fetched..tha's why I was afraid to post it and even start down that road.

no more far fetched than i what i just posted.....i had forgotten about TM telling a friend that the container was warm...unless he was lying, or this is part of some of his memory lapses...he's not sure, yada yada yada???

[close_enough]

--->>>Welllll, yes he could, at least put on a sad face particularly IF IF IF he really loved her. He could look at least downtrodden, he could look humbly at the ground, he could put some glycerin in his eye to produce one or two tears. (They used to do that in the movie business, IF IF the star could not wring out a tear or two in a scene.)

How'd the old song go, "You took a fine time to leave me Lucille, with five ) hungry children and the crops in the field." Was that a Kenny Rogers song, I cannot remember.
.

LOL, yes it was....& BTW...Happy Birthday Camper:)
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/party/fest33.gif

[SeriouslySearching]

I personally believe he strangled her. I don't know if there was much of a physical altercation before then. Once he cut her air off...she would struggle against whatever was around her throat. If this was say the bikini top, his hands and face would be clear of marks. When you are being strangled, I would think you would automatically grab your neck and try to free yourself. It would be the normal reaction, imo.

[close_enough]

Chico already went through this. The body only loses temperature at the rate of one degree per hour after death. At 80 degrees, it would still be "warm" to the touch by the time Tom helped move the container to the car if her body was in it.

aahh, ok....just noticed this post, hmm

[Leila]

IIRC, Cassandra first went to Downers Grove Police to report Stacy missing, but they turned her down and told her to go to Bolingbrook. I didn't know she went to the ISP to report Stacy missing, unless she notified Bolingbrook PD first then went to ISP to ensure they follow up?

When Greta interviewed the Bolingbrook police chief, McCury, he said that when he spoke with Cassandra early on October 29th, she requested that the ISP be in charge of the case as she didn't trust the Bolingbrook police because it involved one of their own officers. He said something about agreeing with her line of thinking and handed the case off to the state police.

[close_enough]

I personally believe he strangled her. I don't know if there was much of a physical altercation before then. Once he cut her air off...she would struggle against whatever was around her throat. If this was say the bikini top, his hands and face would be clear of marks. When you are being strangled, I would think you would automatically grab your neck and try to free yourself. It would be the normal reaction, imo.

yeah...DP could have taken her off guard...she wasn't a huge woman...taken by surprise, it's possible she never had a chance to fight back, other than try to get whatever was around her neck off, then the only marks would have been to her own throat....scratching, pulling at her own throat with her own hands....

[Taximom]

What time was it Stacy was supposed to go help paint? If she didn't show up when expected and didn't call to let them know she'd be late then I think she was killed before that time. (snipped)

Vegas, IIRC the two simply said they'd call each other back to figure out when they'd meet later to paint. So I think he was waiting for her call not realizing there was a reason she wasn't calling back. :( :(

[Leila]

What time was it Stacy was supposed to go help paint? If she didn't show up when expected and didn't call to let them know she'd be late then I think she was killed before that time.
This case is really getting to me on so many levels.
How horrible for those kids if they were in the house when their mother was being killed. Since the neighbor did see DrewP up close when he was at her house I wonder if there were any marks on him she could have noticed, a scratch or bruise maybe? I'd think Stacy would have put up a heck of a fight!

VB

Sharon said that one of the boys said that his parents argued and then suddenly quit arguing - it got quiet. All policemen know how to do a choke hold that will subdue a combative person. There was a lot of controversy about the use of this choke hold because prisoners have passed out or died if it's not used cautiously. Some police departments have outlawed the use of the choke hold. I think this is how DP killed Stacy. If he put her in the choke hold, she would not be able to scream and would be subdued quickly. Applying pressure to certain areas would cause death. There would be no blood or anything else to suggest it was a murder scene.

[TGIRecovered]

I don't remember what it is called, but if you cut off blood flow by squeezing the carotid artery the result can be death. Pretty easy to do on a small girl like Stacey, I would think. Strangling is more common, though.

[close_enough]

I don't remember what it is called, but if you cut off blood flow by squeezing the carotid artery the result can be death. Pretty easy to do on a small girl like Stacey, I would think. Strangling is more common, though.

& didn't we read/hear somewhere that DP was in to martial arts????...or am i getting this confused with another case?

[Mygirlsadie]

Sooo with all this container talk..What is DP saying about 'said' container? I haven't been able to find anything on him mentioning anything about the container.. Man this guy is such a danger to society. I really am beginning to think he is one of the worst and most dangerous..

[close_enough]

Sooo with all this container talk..What is DP saying about 'said' container? I haven't been able to find anything on him mentioning anything about the container.. Man this guy is such a danger to society. I really am beginning to think he is one of the worst and most dangerous..

he's saying no such container/barrel exists.....

[SeriouslySearching]

Don't forget that Jamie Colby did a walkthru with Drew in the house early on and stated the bed linens were taken by LE off his bed. (This is mentioned on her blog.)

[TGIRecovered]

MygirlsadieSooo with all this container talk..What is DP saying about 'said' container? I haven't been able to find anything on him mentioning anything about the container.. Man this guy is such a danger to society. I really am beginning to think he is one of the worst and most dangerous..Today 01:34 PM

Guys like him are only dangerous in the dark. Once they've been outted they lose their power and become impotent...like Drew. The spotlight of the media and resulting LE investigation has left him powerless.
Drew is...
IMPOTENT IMPOTENT IMPOTENT! Ha!

[Trino]

With the snow/cold closing in, is the search going to be discontinued?

[SeriouslySearching]

With the snow/cold closing in, is the search going to be discontinued?Good question! I would imagine the public searches might be put on hold, but LE in conjunction with the Navy, Army, others involved now will continue. The cold wouldn't prevent the public searches, but the ice and snow certainly hampers things and makes it impossible to keep searchers safe which is a priority.

[Mygirlsadie]

Oh really?.. hmm ok Drew! ;)



he's saying no such container/barrel exists.....

[Vegas Bride]

he's saying no such container/barrel exists.....

Then how does he explain the blue shavings that were said to be found in the back?

His answer to everything just seems to be deny deny deny. Everyone else is crazy, ughhhh he makes me :sick:

VB

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, I wonder how he will explain that little tid bit of evidence away?! Tom put it there while DP was sleeping soundly the night they were supposed to be together moving a container?

[close_enough]

Then how does he explain the blue shavings that were said to be found in the back?

His answer to everything just seems to be deny deny deny. Everyone else is crazy, ughhhh he makes me :sick:

VB

that's it...deny, deny, deny....he'll do what a lot of these scumbags do; let LE/the prosecution prove it all in court & hope for reasonable doubt.....jmo

ETA....it'd be just like him to say the blue shavings were planted....

[DeltaDawn]

I am surprised that LE didn't have Cassandra and Sharon go back through the house and Stacy's things with them to see what they think may be missing..other than a bikini, passport, $25K and the red jogging suit..everything I always take on vacation with me.

Meaning they know that a night stand is missing..what about jewelry ? Did she have favorite jewelry that she wore each day that is unaccounted for..wedding rings, earrings, watch, necklace? Are some of her shoes or clothing gone? I know the list could be endless..but we know Drew would not tell them the truth..house keys, pocketbook, the diary..

Also when someone is strangled do they soil themselves? If so how did he clean that up or take care of that? The dog hit in the bedroom..maybe not again in the houe because she was put right into the box?

Just some random thoughts about what might not be there that should be and what is there that shouldn't.

[JanetElaine]

Also when someone is strangled do they soil themselves? If so how did he clean that up or take care of that? The dog hit in the bedroom..maybe not again in the houe because she was put right into the box?

Just some random thoughts about what might not be there that should be and what is there that shouldn't.

I missed that bolded part... does anyone have a link? I'd like to catch up on that.

[DeltaDawn]

I missed that bolded part... does anyone have a link? I'd like to catch up on that.


A cadaver dog hit in the bedroom and in Stacy's car..they are the only locations LE released to the public. It would have been early on when either the 1st or 2nd house search was done. Try the links and media thread.

[JanetElaine]

Thank you DeltaDawn!

[lymom3]

Here is a link to the dogs and where they got hits.


http://cbs2chicago.com/local/stacy.peterson.barrel.2.594658.html

[JanetElaine]

Thank you lymom3!

[Tom'sGirl]

A cadaver dog hit in the bedroom and in Stacy's car..they are the only locations LE released to the public. It would have been early on when either the 1st or 2nd house search was done. Try the links and media thread.

Originally I read the C-dogs got a hit at the master bedroom and at the garage door. I seem to remember it was Sharon that mentioned the dogs hit on Stacy's car.

Photo link to C-dogs at garage door.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=82a8gbb&s=0

[SeriouslySearching]

Here is a link to the dogs and where they got hits.


http://cbs2chicago.com/local/stacy.peterson.barrel.2.594658.html Remember it says, "Sources say..." meaning this most likely did not come from LE. We don't know how accurate that information is.

According to the article, the dogs also hit on the pond at Clow airport. (The searchers found nothing in the pond at the airport that we have heard of.)

[DeltaDawn]

Remember it says, "Sources say..." meaning this most likely did not come from LE. We don't know how accurate that information is.

According to the article, the dogs also hit on the pond at Clow airport. (The searchers found nothing in the pond at the airport that we have heard of.)


Maybe the bikini and passport went in there SS...just kidding.

[i.b.nora]

EAVESDROP HERE ON STACY’S FRIEND RIC MIMS HERE… We Snagged Him At… The Grocery Store!!! (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/03/eavesdrop-here-on-stacys-friend-ric-mims-here-we-snagged-him-at-the-grocery-store/)

[strach304]

I thought the pool guy said Drew ordered a large amount of chlorine and he thought it was strange and reported it to LE? He would know if it was in a blue barrel right? It wouldn't just be Cassandra's word for it.

Makes me question the accuracy of these reports when they don't confront Drew with that info when he is denying the barrel altogether. There would also be some kind of sales slip I'd imagine.

[TGIRecovered]

EAVESDROP HERE ON STACY’S FRIEND RIC MIMS HERE… We Snagged Him At… The Grocery Store!!! (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/03/eavesdrop-here-on-stacys-friend-ric-mims-here-we-snagged-him-at-the-grocery-store/)

Please tell us what they said since a few of us can't listen for various reasons.

Thank you!

[i.b.nora]

Please tell us what they said since a few of us can't listen for various reasons.

Thank you!

It was a pretty lightweight conversation as far as any case info is concerned.
Ric and Roy (Sharon's son) and another woman who's name was unfamiliar to me are working on putting together (along with Stacy's family) a fund-raiser in the next couple of weeks to raise money to help pay for the sophisticated search equipment and for hotel rooms for the searchers.

[SeriouslySearching]

Please tell us what they said since a few of us can't listen for various reasons.

Thank you!It is a long conversation!

Ric is a pack a day smoker and has smoked for 25 years.

He is working with Roy (Sharon's son) to set up a benefit for Stacy to raise money for hotel rooms, equipment to be brought in, other things for private searches. He is doing the production end of it: finding a venue, finding bands, getting in touch with businesses for donations, etc. No date set, but are trying for a week from the upcoming Saturday.

He was asked by LE not to comment on whether or not Drew told him of his whereabouts on the 28th/29th from 10 am until 3 am.

He is expecting a subpoena anytime from the GJ. He was told he would be asked to testify.

He has had no contact with Drew for awhile.

He attended the vigil on Saturday. Said about 100 people showed up to show their support. Something came up about an argument (?) or something that happened during the vigil with Roy and someone else. (Not sure what that was about.) I think he said that happened after he left.

[i.b.nora]

I just remembered, he also said he is expecting to be called before the grand jury this week (Wednesday)
and, Greta asked him if Drew had ever told him what he had done, or how he spent his time between about 10 am that Sunday and 3 am the next morning.
Ric said that he couldn't answer that, that he had been asked by law enforcement not to talk about that.

[SuziQ]

EAVESDROP HERE ON STACY’S FRIEND RIC MIMS HERE… We Snagged Him At… The Grocery Store!!! (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/03/eavesdrop-here-on-stacys-friend-ric-mims-here-we-snagged-him-at-the-grocery-store/)

Ric is going before the Grand Jury this week. LE asked Ric not to comment on where Drew told him he was on 10-28.

[Utopia]

Remember it says, "Sources say..." meaning this most likely did not come from LE. We don't know how accurate that information is.

According to the article, the dogs also hit on the pond at Clow airport. (The searchers found nothing in the pond at the airport that we have heard of.)

I think this is a really important point that needs to be reiterated SS. I always pay attention to who the "source" is reported to be when reading these articles. I would give more credibility to "a police spokesperson" than simply "a source".

[SeriouslySearching]

I thought the pool guy said Drew ordered a large amount of chlorine and he thought it was strange and reported it to LE? He would know if it was in a blue barrel right? It wouldn't just be Cassandra's word for it.

Makes me question the accuracy of these reports when they don't confront Drew with that info when he is denying the barrel altogether. There would also be some kind of sales slip I'd imagine.I don't believe that comment came from the person he got the chlorine from. I think that comment was from a poster's pool guy in saying IF IF IF (Thanks, Camper...I borrowed your phrase) someone purchased that much he would have gone to authorities. I might be wrong about this tho. Anyone? (I am too lazy right now to go look that one up! LOL)

[SeriouslySearching]

I think this is a really important point that needs to be reiterated SS. I always pay attention to who the "source" is reported to be when reading these articles. I would give more credibility to "a police spokesperson" than simply "a source".Yes, because comments such as that can take on a life of their own if you allow them! At this point, we have so much information to deal with...things can get discombobulated (Gosh, I love that word!) quickly.

[Taximom]

Hmm. I remember Ric answering that question about DrewP's timeline in our little chat.

Can you imagine not wanting to tell the whole world where you were if someone was saying you killed someone else? I would be telling THE WORLD where I had been that day and when.

[SeriouslySearching]

Hmm. I remember Ric answering that question about DrewP's timeline in our little chat.

Do we happen to have a copy of that "little chat"?! :rolleyes:

[chicoliving]

Here's a link to the last chat with Ric

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56353

[Tom'sGirl]

It was a pretty lightweight conversation as far as any case info is concerned.
Ric and Roy (Sharon's son) and another woman who's name was unfamiliar
to me are working on putting together (along with Stacy's family) a fund-raiser in the next couple of weeks to raise money to help pay for the sophisticated search equipment and for hotel rooms for the searchers.

Carol Penning

[i.b.nora]

An aside, Greta says "To all of you have have asked…no, Mark Fuhrman is NOT going to write a book about the Stacy Peterson/Kathleen Savio investigation."
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/03/fyi-the-answer-is-no/

[mysteriew]

North Aurora police and firefighters were out in the Fox River early Monday morning, investigating a blue barrel that a caller thought might have been related to the Stacy Peterson case.

The barrel, according to Martin was empty.

A few weeks earlier, Martin said the owner of a Yorkville home on Kennedy Road asked police to search his property for the missing woman. On the day she was reported missing, Stacy Peterson was scheduled to help her sister paint that house, and Martin said the homeowner wanted “to make sure (Peterson) wasn’t out there.”

Yorkville police told the man to call the state police, and Martin said they never heard from him again. Martin said he is unsure whether the state police searched the Kennedy Road property.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/678606,AU03_BARREL_WEB.article

[Leila]

Just caught a promo for Greta........sounds like it's going to be an interesting program tonight. She said there's a lot of battles being fought in Bolingbrook tonight, with threats of lawsuits, and the police dept, and she held up copies of documents.

[Leila]

Greta is interviewing Joel Brodsky. She asked him about the time line - where was DP from 10:00pm on Oct. 28 to 5:00am on Oct. 29. Broadsky said that DP has accounted for where he was during that time to LE. Greta asked why it's such a secret - where was DP? Joel Brodsky declined to give Greta an answer on that stating that it's a police matter. Greta asked Joel Brodsky that if she can get permission from LE to give DP's time line on the air would he come on and give that time line. He agreed.

Evidently, one of the neighbor children took one of the orange cones from in front of DP's house and he's made a police report at 4:51pm. DP said they aren't responding to his complaint. Chief McCury said he sent an officer out after DP complained about the report only being taken over the phone.

The police in Bolingbrook have sent a letter to DP for the return of police property, and have given a time frame for it's return or face theft charges. Chief McCury said that a letter was sent to DP and his attorney on November 26th about the return of police property, and haven't heard back from them. The chief says that DP still has his badge and other police equipment.

Chief McCury said that the police have gone door to door in DP's neighborhood and so far only one person has complained of the media presence.

Chief McCury has thrown down the gauntlet in regards to Joel Brodsky's comments about the background checks and that it's something all policemen do. Chief McCury said he was challanging Joel Brodsky to give him a list of all the police officers who've illegally run background checks on people.

[mysteriew]

That comment from Brodsky is going to cost Drew P some police supporters. Either they will be worried that Drew P is going to name them for using police databases when they shouldn't have been, or they will be po'd at Drew P for saying they did it when they didn't.

[Taximom]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_12_22.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WOW!! Hail to Chief McGury!! :woohoo: :woohoo:http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_15_50.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS)

Is this guy fairly new to that department? I wonder how long he's known DrewP.

Does anyone have the stats on the BBPD? I wonder how many officers etc there are.

[Tom'sGirl]

[quote]
The police in Bolingbrook have sent a letter to DP for the return of police property, and have given a time frame for it's return or face theft charges. Chief McCury said that a letter was sent to DP and his attorney on November 26th about the return of police property, and haven't heard back from them. The chief says that DP still has his badge and other police equipment.


I wonder what the equipment is???

[Taximom]

Probably GPS related items! Just guessing. Wonder what the time frame is?

[Leila]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_12_22.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WOW!! Hail to Chief McCury!! :woohoo: :woohoo:http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_15_50.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS)

Is this guy fairly new to that department? I wonder how long he's known DrewP.

Does anyone have the stats on the BBPD? I wonder how many officers etc there are.

From what I understand Chief McCury is fairly new to the department. He was brought in from Naperville two years ago, I think. We talked about the police department in chat one night and someone said there was about 64 officers, and that figure was taken from a government report.

[mysteriew]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_12_22.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WOW!! Hail to Chief McCury!! :woohoo: :woohoo:http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_15_50.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS)

Is this guy fairly new to that department? I wonder how long he's known DrewP.

Does anyone have the stats on the BBPD? I wonder how many officers etc there are.

Here is the Bolinbrook PD webpage. But they don't show pics of their officers or tell how large the department is.
http://www.bolingbrook.com/index.php?page_id=5

[chicoliving]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_12_22.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS) WOW!! Hail to Chief McCury!! :woohoo: :woohoo:http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_15_50.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS)

Is this guy fairly new to that department? I wonder how long he's known DrewP.

Does anyone have the stats on the BBPD? I wonder how many officers etc there are.

At this link page 7 shows the breakdown of the officers, etc.

http://www.bolingbrook.com//info/pdf/PD_Annual_Report06.pdf

[Leila]

[quote=Leila;1832138]



I wonder what the equipment is???

Greta asked what equipment DP has and Chief McCury started to reply stating his badge, and then was interrupted by another comment. I was hoping he would come back to that question, but they went on to other questions.

[Taximom]

He's so honorable that he didn't turn in his badge when he retired? What about his gun?!

[Liz]

We have heard that Chief McGury was not with BBPD
when Kathleen died in 2004, so he's been there less than 4 years. Right?