Truck Drivers Alert! #2

[WindChime]

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[Tom'sGirl]

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Thank you WindChime!

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, Windy! (OT~ I love the snowmen.)

[mysteriew]

'A lot of lying' -- trucker was in Louisiana, not Illinois: source

A trucker claiming he was approached by Drew Peterson and another man about carrying off a mysterious package appears to have fabricated the story, a police source said Thursday.

Investigators checked the truck driver's telephone records and determined he was actually in Louisiana -- not at a Bolingbrook truck stop -- in the early morning hours of Oct. 29, the day after Peterson's wife, Stacy Peterson, was last seen alive.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/685713,CST-NWS-truckers07.article

[Taximom]

http://www.nbc5.com/family/14796267/detail.html?dl=mainclick

Police said the trucker who told them Drew Peterson asked him to transport a large package the night Stacy Peterson vanished made the story up.

The paper said that investigators checked the truck driver's phone records and found he was in Louisiana, not Bolingbrook, on Oct. 29.

Argh. Unbelievable.

[Camper]

'A lot of lying' -- trucker was in Louisiana, not Illinois: source

A trucker claiming he was approached by Drew Peterson and another man about carrying off a mysterious package appears to have fabricated the story, a police source said Thursday.

Investigators checked the truck driver's telephone records and determined he was actually in Louisiana -- not at a Bolingbrook truck stop -- in the early morning hours of Oct. 29, the day after Peterson's wife, Stacy Peterson, was last seen alive.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/685713,CST-NWS-truckers07.article




--->>>Just an off the wall comment on this, was his phone in Louisiana, and he elsewhere, guess not, er huh.

BUT BUT how about trucker #2 ?, wonder IF IF they gave him a lie detector test, er huh?

OR OR heck trucker #2 might have offered to take a LT.

Just sitting and waiting for 'the' arrest. WONDER IF court TV will carry the trial?

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[DeltaDawn]

--->>>Just an off the wall comment on this, was his phone in Louisiana, and he elsewhere, guess not, er huh.

BUT BUT how about trucker #2 ?, wonder IF IF they gave him a lie detector test, er huh?

OR OR heck trucker #2 might have offered to take a LT.

Just sitting and waiting for 'the' arrest. WONDER IF court TV will carry the trial?

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That's what I was wondering..weren't there supposed to be 2 truckers ?

Also Cassandra wrote over at findstacypeterson.com when the trucker story came out that police had this info almost from the start..just like they had the info on Tom Morophy.

Maybe they are actually talking about another trucker or the haze mat incident.

[SuziQ]

A few days ago Jamie Colby did a report in front of Drews house. IIRC, she started to say two truckers then corrected herself and said "there was actually one trucker". Then she went on with the rest of the story.

[DeltaDawn]

A few days ago Jamie Colby did a report in front of Drews house. IIRC, she started to say two truckers then corrected herself and said "there was actually one trucker". Then she went on with the rest of the story.


Wonder why it took them so long to release that info , if they have known of the trucker's story since the beginning? Maybe they never thought that story would get out or have a life of it's own?

[Trino]

Wonder why it took them so long to release that info , if they have known of the trucker's story since the beginning? Maybe they never thought that story would get out or have a life of it's own?

I, too, wonder why this wasn't immediately corrected. Right now we have one truck driver who lied. I, too, wonder why this wasn't immediately corrected. Cripes. People were making posters to distribute at truck stops!

[Jaded]

Wow - that's disheartening to hear the trucker lied. Sometimes I just don't understand what makes people tick.

[dee10134]

'A lot of lying' -- trucker was in Louisiana, not Illinois: source

A trucker claiming he was approached by Drew Peterson and another man about carrying off a mysterious package appears to have fabricated the story, a police source said Thursday.

Investigators checked the truck driver's telephone records and determined he was actually in Louisiana -- not at a Bolingbrook truck stop -- in the early morning hours of Oct. 29, the day after Peterson's wife, Stacy Peterson, was last seen alive.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/685713,CST-NWS-truckers07.article

What's the likelihood that DP PAID the trucker to say this just to throw off the investigation???

[dee10134]

Wow - that's disheartening to hear the trucker lied. Sometimes I just don't understand what makes people tick.

Yeah, why would he lie? :confused: I just don't get it. Did he want to capitalize on some of the "notoriety" the case *might* bring him??? What a dumb ass! :banghead:

[Jaded]

Yeah, why would he lie? :confused: I just don't get it. Did he want to capitalize on some of the "notoriety" the case *might* bring him??? What a dumb ass! :banghead:

I suppose some people do get off on being able to steal the limelight. I think it's pretty crappy that this man lied and had LE working doubletime on a false lead. He should be charged and made an example of.

[Taximom]

By the way, my link (nbc5) said "large package" which is the first time I've heard of a size mentioned. Of course, it's a lie so who cares!

This guy should be strung up by his -----. (Vanna says there's only one vowel.) :D

[TGIRecovered]

I, too, wonder why this wasn't immediately corrected. Right now we have one truck driver who lied. I, too, wonder why this wasn't immediately corrected. Cripes. People were making posters to distribute at truck stops!

Maybe the cpos wanted to see the difference in Drew's reaction between tips that were bogus and tips that Drew may know were true.

[mysteriew]

What's the likelihood that DP PAID the trucker to say this just to throw off the investigation???

I thought of that too. The only thing worse than no leads in an investigation, is too many leads that go in different directions and lead to nowhere. However, if he did pay them, he chose a bad one- one that could be proven not to be in the same state.

[SuziQ]

The good news is that Stacy is close by, and LE won't have to search all over the midwest for her.

[Trino]

The good news is that Stacy is close by, and LE won't have to search all over the midwest for her.

I agree that she's not too far, but I'm not sure she's in the canal either. D was an experienced cop, and I think he was too experienced to dump her in water.

Wasn't Stacy's car missing for a while? What if he transferred her to her own car to dispose of her - GPS wouldn't work. Then, could D just have driven around? There are so many possibilities, and I'm not sure D hasn't foiled everyone, at least right now.

[close_enough]

I agree that she's not too far, but I'm not sure she's in the canal either. D was an experienced cop, and I think he was too experienced to dump her in water.
Wasn't Stacy's car missing for a while? What if he transferred her to her own car to dispose of her - GPS wouldn't work. Then, could D just have driven around? There are so many possibilities, and I'm not sure D hasn't foiled everyone, at least right now.

i tend to think the same, Trino....i hope they find Stacy's body, but i don't think they will...maybe i'll be happily surprised though?

[mysteriew]

A trucker who claimed to have seen Drew Peterson hours after the former police officer's wife disappeared did not actually see the suspect, authorities said Friday.

"We did look into the tip and it is unfounded," Illinois State Police Trooper Mark Dorencz said. He added that detectives are investigating the same claim made by another trucker.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9LSLrzFQGStXb1io5FdErAtFFKgD8TCTQDG0

[mysteriew]

Drew P comments on the debunking of the trucker story. The reporter says he was "relieved."
http://www.wbbm780.com/Trucker-Tracked-Down--Drew-Relieved/1302100

[itsreenw]

I hope the idiot truck driver that lied is prosecuted. I guess he doesn't realize how serious this is. They need to make an example of him for anybody else that wants to interfere in a missing person investigation. How cruel to give false hope. So if there were 2 truckers, were they acquainted or did they both coincidentally make up the exact same story?

[Littledeer]

If this is true, then we do have a truck driver that IS telling the truth!

http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/

I agree that the other truck driver that lied should be charged with obstrucing justice or lying to LE. I'm sure LE can charge him with something! If they don't, it just allows other people to try the same thing (15 minutes of fame) in other cases knowing that LE won't charge them.

[Camper]

Wellll, littledeers link -> http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/ covers the haz mat driver that supposedly called PD because DP was menacing the haz mat driver and keeping him from leaving with his haz mat truck.

Even the reporter for FOX on the above link here, 'just says' another trucker and does not give a total trucker count. SO another trucker of HOW MANY.

I have been trying to keep track of the number count so:

For those who may be trying to keep accurate count on 'truck drivers' the haz mat driver would be truck driver number 3, yes or no, anyone want to correct my counting process?

The original story/article link that was posted 'somewhere' on WS, covered DP and Mr. S & P approaching TWO truck drivers and asking them IF IF IF they would transport 'a' package to a different location.

So my perception of the total number of truckers so far mentioned on WS, are the following:

Trucker 1 and 2 === approached either singularly or together being asked to transport 'a' package, article was muddled about the logistics of it all,

Trucker #3 === would be the haz mat trucker.

SusieQ who is on top of this like ugly on a bug, can you confirm my mental remembering?

Frequently the coverage of any given crime and the perception of all watching from the sidelines becomes rather like a game of 'gossip', hard to keep track of where the 'truth' actually is located. Hmmm.

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[Littledeer]

camper:

I also agree with your count. The first story did contain that DP approached 2 truck drivers.

So the haz mat driver would be #3.

Going to reread the first article to make sure.

[Littledeer]

camper:

Here is what was originally reported on Colby's blog:

Jamie Colby on Fox is reporting that ISP is releasing a statement that Drew Peterson and another white male with salt and pepper hair approached 2 truck drivers at a truck stop and asked them to carry a package to an undisclosed location on October 29th. The drivers said that DP would later pick up the package because the semi would not be able to reach the location where it was to be delivered.

This is from the 1st Thread on the Truck Drivers Alert.

[nanandjim]

I agree that she's not too far, but I'm not sure she's in the canal either...
I thought that I heard on Fox last night that they were searching waters where there were cell phone pings that night (or something like that). If this is the case, it is certainly encouraging to know that they have been able to trace Drew's movements from the cell phone pings.

[SuziQ]

Lol, Camper, your memory serves you well. I can add that Jamie C corrected herself on the air regarding the 10-29 trucker incident saying there was actually only one trucker. From everything so far, I think the 10-29 trucker was discounted by LE as not being there and Haz-Mat trucker is still being investigated. That incident I have to believe happened as BBPD did confirm he called in a complaint two weeks before Stacy went missing. Whether it was Drew he saw, I don't know. I don't think it had to do with Stacy's disappearance. I do think though, it's possible that Drew was there to pick Tom up and either acted childish or was in a situation the trucker didn't understand.

[cricket]

camper:

I also agree with your count. The first story did contain that DP approached 2 truck drivers.

So the haz mat driver would be #3.

Going to reread the first article to make sure.


So - truckers #1 and #2 is a false lead that (didn't) happen early morning of October 29th?

And trucker #3 actually happened two weeks earlier? And that lead is still possible? However - I thought I heard that Greta was not believing Jamie Colby's story on trucker #3?

I'm confused.

[SuziQ]

I've heard Greta make that same type of remark in her Gretacasts. IMO, I don't think she ever thought either of the two incidents had any connection to Stacy.

[mysteriew]

Trucker 1- LE has disproven, they say he was out of state on 11-29

Trucker 2- LE has never said if he was with trucker 1 or not. LE hasn't said whether they believe him or not.

Trucker 3- Police have more or less discounted him as any direct involvement in Stacy's disappearance, because the event happened before Stacy's disappearance. They aren't saying if they believe the event is in anyway related to Stacy's disappearance. But if the truckers story is true, it does show Drew's familiarity with the truckstop.... and if this was premeditated, he could have been there to check out details for a plan.

[SuziQ]

The below linked video is Greta and her rountable discussing the trucker, Drew throwing out false clues, and Brodsky's refusal to do Greta's show.

http://tinyurl.com/26dmwa

[SeriouslySearching]

Can they file any charges on the trucker who lied to the State Police?!

[SeekingJana]

O/T-I think your snowmen cookies are adorable, SSearching! :)

This conflicting info about the truckers, and the apparent evidence that one of the drivers' cell phone was in La makes me wonder all the more about blue barrels and large tote containers. Is DP that smart or did he do a dry run with a Haz Mat driver? Why Haz Mat? I would imagine that just like people who handle Haz Mat as part of their job duties, the haulers of it have all kinds of regs. which ordinary truckers don't have.

I have a question for those who know more about trucking terms than I do: Is 'Haz Mat' synonymous with 'Biohazardous Material' contents in trucking? A body or body parts would definitely be a biohazard, but would it be Haz Mat?

[panthera]

If this is true, then we do have a truck driver that IS telling the truth!

http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/

I agree that the other truck driver that lied should be charged with obstrucing justice or lying to LE. I'm sure LE can charge him with something! If they don't, it just allows other people to try the same thing (15 minutes of fame) in other cases knowing that LE won't charge them.
Thanks so much for the link ~ I was totally confused about these truck drivers. If the date was Oct. 16, then it's 2 wks. before Stacy went missing so do you think DP was soliciting help that far in advance or could this be for another "package", or maybe not even DP at all?

[DeltaDawn]

I think what we have with the haze mat trucker is Drew and his buddy trying to pull rank to get out of the truck stop and the traffic..nothing more. Fortunately the haze mat trucker did place the 911 call ..

I think this is one more instance of Drew playing the bully to get his own way.

[SuziQ]

I think what we have with the haze mat trucker is Drew and his buddy trying to pull rank to get out of the truck stop and the traffic..nothing more. Fortunately the haze mat trucker did place the 911 call ..

I think this is one more instance of Drew playing the bully to get his own way.

That's exactly what I think happened.

[Trino]

I think what we have with the haze mat trucker is Drew and his buddy trying to pull rank to get out of the truck stop and the traffic..nothing more. Fortunately the haze mat trucker did place the 911 call .. I think this is one more instance of Drew playing the bully to get his own way.

And, the trucker saw an opportunity to temporarily get even.

[itsreenw]

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=72475110409397&mkt=en-US&lang=en-US&w=8d148005&FORM=CVRE6 (http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=72475110409397&mkt=en-US&lang=en-US&w=8d148005&FORM=CVRE6)

The Trucker Police Say Lied Is Not The Trucker FOX Interviewed! (http://colbyfiles.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/12/07/the-trucker-police-say-lied-is-not-the-trucker-fox-interviewed/)

Friday, December 7th, 2007
Last Sunday night I introduced you to ANOTHER trucker who had an altercation with a man he says he believes 100% is Drew Peterson 13 days before Stacy disappeared. This trucker, Allan Scott, who was interviewed by me on Geraldo at Large last Sunday night, has now been interviewed by Illinois State Police and his 9-1-1 call to police the morning of October 16th when he describes how a man he says is Drew Peterson approached him at the 55 truck stop has been confirmed by Bolingbrook Police.
Scott is a hazmat trucker who takes hauling hazardous material seriously. His cell phone records shown to us before our interview show that call to 9-1-1 on the date in question. His trucker logs indicate he had to leave the 55 truck stop for “a safe haven”. He explained how even with all his years experience he felt threatened when he had the encounter he described with two men flashing a badge one of whom he believes was Drew Peterson. Please pass the word that THIS TRUCKER IS NOT THE TRUCKER POLICE ARE NOW SAYING LIED.

[Taximom]

I thought Drew wasn't on duty that night the haz-mat trucker felt threatened. Maybe they can track cell pings in this case, if they need.

I'm also not sure what this incident has to do with Stacy missing, except to add more drama about Drew's personality. Hopefully someone will clue me in if I've missed something here.

Thanks for that info, itsreenw!

[MaddyDecaf]

I thought Drew wasn't on duty that night the haz-mat trucker felt threatened. Maybe they can track cell pings in this case, if they need.

I'm also not sure what this incident has to do with Stacy missing, except to add more drama about Drew's personality. Hopefully someone will clue me in if I've missed something here.

Thanks for that info, itsreenw!

This report doesn't say that DP was wearing his police uniform; it says the trucker was approached by two men and one of them (whom he believes was DP) flashed a badge. What it has to do with the case is possibly providing some evidence that DP was seeking ways to dispose of something as far back as 12 days before Stacy disappeared. Does this help you out at all?

[SeriouslySearching]

It would be nice to know about the other truck driver in the case...we know ONE driver lied, but there was another one. Then here, you have Allen Scott.

I do think this is important to show that DP could have been checking out truckers and the truck stop itself.

[mysteriew]

First, I question the haz mat trucker's story. With what he has said happened, what was happening that he took so seriously that he perceived a threat and changed locations and called 911. A supposed police officer flashed a badge. The story he gives doesn't give any indication that the alleged police officer was trying to stop him, and it would be illegal for him not to stop for police. So I guess I am a little confused about the trucker's story as it has been related.

If it is true however, I am wondering. What if it is unrelated to Stacy? DrewP has had a lot of money in the past and there have been questions as to where he acquired that money. Some truckers get into the drug scene. Is it possible that DrewP was into some drug running scheme and this was a pick up or drop off? Flashing a badge during the exchange would be pretty risky if it was his day off, but would provide good cover if there was a problem.

If Stacy's disappearance was planned, then DrewP could have been there to try to find a trucker to carry a "package" out of state. I have always said that if you wanted to hide a murder and make sure the body would never be found, you would take the body out of state. For example, no one would ever connect a body found in say Calif. with a missing person in Ill. But getting the body from the truck into some hiding place would be a problem. Unless DrewP knew someone who was willing and trust worthy out of state to do the pick up. And between the computer and the phone records, police should have been able to pick up on that.