NEw Search Warrant Tonight. Dec.4th, 2007

[WindChime]

Ohh.I can't wait to hear what they were going back in for. Drew is at the house while they are there.The prosecutors to determine if Peterson should be charged with misconduct.

[DeltaDawn]

Ohh.I can't wait to hear what they were going back in for. Drew is at the house while they are there.The prosecutors to determine if Peterson should be charged with misconduct.


Me too Windchimes...this may be the straw that broke the camels back..they may have something very specfic in mind to go back in after a month has gone by.

[mysteriew]

Well, I guess that Joel will need to amend his list of items that Drew P wants back.

[WindChime]

LOL Ohh.that's a good one, and I must admit you are so right. I also agree there has to be something up for a judge to grant another search warrant.

[teedie2]

Ohh.I can't wait to hear what they were going back in for. Drew is at the house while they are there.The prosecutors to determine if Peterson should be charged with misconduct.


Where are you hearing about this?

ETA: nevermind. :( I just caught the tail end of NG show. IOW, missed it all!

[WindChime]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/680839,petersonsearch120407.article

[Tom'sGirl]

Update:

December 4, 2007
BY JOE HOSEY Staff Writer
BOLINGBROOK — Drew Peterson wants his cars back but the cops aren’t through rummaging around in them yet.

State police served another search warrant at the disgraced former cop’s home — the fourth since his young wife Stacy disappeared Oct. 28.

“It expands the scope of the initial search warrant, specifically with regard to the vehicles,” Charles B. Pelkie, spokesman for State’s Attorney James Glasgow, said of the search warrant dropped on Peterson on Tuesday night.

~snipped~Long article
http://tinyurl.com/38selb

[Leila]

Gosh darn..........I go to the supermarket and come home to find breaking news. :)

Can't wait to find out what they're going back to the Peterson house to get!

[WindChime]

This is so heart breaking please watch this youtube video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSq_aN6tPYQ

[mysteriew]

Update:

December 4, 2007
BY JOE HOSEY Staff Writer
BOLINGBROOK — Drew Peterson wants his cars back but the cops aren’t through rummaging around in them yet.

State police served another search warrant at the disgraced former cop’s home — the fourth since his young wife Stacy disappeared Oct. 28.

“It expands the scope of the initial search warrant, specifically with regard to the vehicles,” Charles B. Pelkie, spokesman for State’s Attorney James Glasgow, said of the search warrant dropped on Peterson on Tuesday night.

~snipped~Long article
http://tinyurl.com/38selb

From the link

His attorney, Joel Brodsky, said the new search warrant was unnecessary and likely just a gambit by Glasgow to either goad Peterson or hold onto the cars longer.

“It may be their form of a response to our motion (to get the vehicles back),” Brodsky said.

The attorney said he did not want to discuss the specifics of the warrant but noted it contained “nothing that really shocks me or surprises me.

Nothing I haven’t heard of before.”

For his part, Drew Peterson said he simply wants his automobiles back.

“I’m just looking to get back what I can get back,” He said. “My concern is my vehicles.”

‘I like Jim Glasgow’

[WindChime]

Dan Abrams just said that they have cavaver dogs searching at Drew and Stacys house also. This is the first that I've heard about the dogs tonight.He said it is breaking news. Did anyone else hear this tonight on Dan Abrams?

[i.b.nora]

He's going to talk about it in a little bit, I think. He is the only one so far reporting cadaver dogs.

[WindChime]

Drews lawyer said that isnt' true what Dan stated in my above post.

[i.b.nora]

Dan Abrams is hopelessly out of touch with this case.
Brodsky says it just has to do with the cars they have already gotten.

[cricket]

If this warrant is really just an expanded search of the cars - I wonder if that means that they needed it to maybe get the GPS data from the automaker? Someone over at Gretawire was commenting that the Denali has GPS on it, even if he never signed up for OnStar. I had forgotten that about newer cars - they have these "black boxes" in them that tracks all this stuff and it can be used against you if you get into an accident, etc. They can access the data in the black box and determine speed, braking, etc. in addition to the GPS data.

Maybe LE is getting closer to an arrest.

[cricket]

Dan Abrams just said that they have cavaver dogs searching at Drew and Stacys house also. This is the first that I've heard about the dogs tonight.He said it is breaking news. Did anyone else hear this tonight on Dan Abrams?

I'm listening and I didn't hear anything about cadaver dogs. I heard Abrams state that they were searching the home - which is NOT true according to Gretawire and one news article I've read in the last hour (forget which). I think LE simply hand-delivered a warrant to give him notice of the expanded search on the cars. They didn't go in the house.

[mysteriew]

Maybe I am slow, but I don't understand! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

It is expanding on the car searches, but they already have the cars. So what are they looking for?

[fran]

This is so heart breaking please watch this youtube video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSq_aN6tPYQ

Gosh WindChime, it is heartbreaking.

:(
fran

[Leila]

Dan Abrams just said that they have cavaver dogs searching at Drew and Stacys house also. This is the first that I've heard about the dogs tonight.He said it is breaking news. Did anyone else hear this tonight on Dan Abrams?

I was out running errands and missed it. I hope someone finds a video link to Dan Abrams.

[i.b.nora]

Brodsky recently filed a motion to get Drew's property back, including the cars.
He said there was something improper about them taking the cars.
This warrant tonight has something to do with the cars and is probably the State's response to Brodsky's motion.
In other words, they plan to keep the cars.

[mysteriew]

If this warrant is really just an expanded search of the cars - I wonder if that means that they needed it to maybe get the GPS data from the automaker? Someone over at Gretawire was commenting that the Denali has GPS on it, even if he never signed up for OnStar. I had forgotten that about newer cars - they have these "black boxes" in them that tracks all this stuff and it can be used against you if you get into an accident, etc. They can access the data in the black box and determine speed, braking, etc. in addition to the GPS data.

Maybe LE is getting closer to an arrest.


But they already have the Denali, so why would they need to go back there?

Could they have found blood in one of the vehicles and want to check the garage for blood?

[Leila]

But they already have the Denali, so why would they need to go back there?

Could they have found blood in one of the vehicles and want to check the garage for blood?

If that's the case......there's a lot of stuff in that garage that would have to be moved out........

[mysteriew]

Dan Abrams is hopelessly out of touch with this case.
Brodsky says it just has to do with the cars they have already gotten.

Yeah, he may be out of touch. But so is Brodskey. So which one do we believe?

[WindChime]

I'm not understanding this either. Like you all have said they already had a search warrant for his vehical and LE still has the vehical so why another search warrant?

[chicoliving]

Remember to refer to the players in this case by name or initials...no nicks, no derogatory terms yada yada

[i.b.nora]

Cory, Greta's producer, says that it was NOT a warrant. It is paperwork.

Others are reporting that as well.

[cricket]

But they already have the Denali, so why would they need to go back there?

Could they have found blood in one of the vehicles and want to check the garage for blood?

We'll have to wait for Greta in 7 minutes - but I don't think they went into either the house or the garage. I think they just delivered papers to him notifying him of an expanded search on the cars.

It's JMO, but I don't think this new warrant has anything to do with the motion Brodsky filed; they had to have some new information to get another warrant. Brodsky can complain all he wants, but LE can keep the cars until they want to give them back. IIRC, Modesto PD kept Scott Peterson's truck for a really long time.

[mysteriew]

Update:

December 4, 2007
BY JOE HOSEY Staff Writer
BOLINGBROOK — Drew Peterson wants his cars back but the cops aren’t through rummaging around in them yet.

State police served another search warrant at the disgraced former cop’s home — the fourth since his young wife Stacy disappeared Oct. 28.

“It expands the scope of the initial search warrant, specifically with regard to the vehicles,” Charles B. Pelkie, spokesman for State’s Attorney James Glasgow, said of the search warrant dropped on Peterson on Tuesday night.

~snipped~Long article
http://tinyurl.com/38selb


But according to the spokesman for the State's Attorney is it a warrant.

[tagalong]

What it all boils down to is WHO WAS DRIVING THE PURPLE PONTIAC WHEN IT PULLED OUT OF THE DRIVE SUNDAY, 10/28/07. If DP was driving, Stacy was killed between 10:30 am - 11:30 am. If Stacy was driving, Stacy was killed between 1:30pm - 7:00 pm.

[cricket]

Cory, Greta's producer, says that it was NOT a warrant. It is paperwork.

Others are reporting that as well.

Who do we believe? This article quotes Glasgow's spokesman:

Update: Fourth warrant served at Peterson home

December 4, 2007
BY JOE HOSEY Staff Writer

BOLINGBROOK — Drew Peterson wants his cars back but the cops aren’t through rummaging around in them yet.


State police served another search warrant at the disgraced former cop’s home — the fourth since his young wife Stacy disappeared Oct. 28.

“It expands the scope of the initial search warrant, specifically with regard to the vehicles,” Charles B. Pelkie, spokesman for State’s Attorney James Glasgow, said of the search warrant dropped on Peterson on Tuesday night.

Link:
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervillesun/news/680835,JO04_SEARCH_WEB.article

[CarpeDiem]

Isn't the police department wanting some uniforms back that he won't provide. Could their visit be as simple as that?

[cricket]

What it all boils down to is WHO WAS DRIVING THE PURPLE PONTIAC WHEN IT PULLED OUT OF THE DRIVE SUNDAY, 10/28/07. If DP was driving, Stacy was killed between 10:30 am - 11:30 am. If Stacy was driving, Stacy was killed between 1:30pm - 7:00 pm.

I don't know how they can tell who was driving it when it left, unless someone saw it leave. I'm guessing that it wasn't Stacy, since it just happened to leave while Sharon, the neighbor/good friend, was gone. What a coincidence.

[SuziQ]

It is technically a search warrant. But for items LE already has. It's in response to Drews request to get his cars back. That's how I understand it.

[SuziQ]

What it all boils down to is WHO WAS DRIVING THE PURPLE PONTIAC WHEN IT PULLED OUT OF THE DRIVE SUNDAY, 10/28/07. If DP was driving, Stacy was killed between 10:30 am - 11:30 am. If Stacy was driving, Stacy was killed between 1:30pm - 7:00 pm.

I think this should be taken over to the Stacy thread. Here is a link from Findstacy.com. It is the official family timeline. I will also post the link in the timeline thread. It may be there already. I don't want to copy and past the whole thing to avoid upsetting anyone.

http://findstacypeterson.com/forum/index.php?topic=412.msg2490;boardseen#new

[itsreenw]

Ohh.I can't wait to hear what they were going back in for. Drew is at the house while they are there.The prosecutors to determine if Peterson should be charged with misconduct.

To determine?? Of course he should be charged.

I can list a few things he has already admitted to doing starting from his blatant misuse of his status as a police officer back in 2004 when he broke into KPs home the night she was found. There was no call to the BPD for a well-being check on Kathleen Savio. He was no longer a family member and didn't have the right to enter her home.

Go back further to when he was on duty, sitting around the lobby of the local hotel, keeping a 16 yr old girl company. The tax paying citizens of Bolingbrook pay his salary. Is that what they paid him to do??

Using confidential databases for personal use

Using a government vehicle to conduct personal business. Didn't he say he was dropping off the kids to KS, then he said he was the on-duty watch commander the night she died.

Then there's his issue with befriending drug dealers. I doubt there was just that one time.

If he did any type of "surveillance" of Scott Rossetto or Stacy's other friends that could be considered stalking I'd believe.

As far as the search warrant. I am very curious.

They could want to see the contents of that safe DP said Stacy took the $25,000 from. I doubt the money ever existed but it's possible since he was walking on both sides of the law. Drug money often gets the residue or scent of the drugs on it.

[SeriouslySearching]

What it all boils down to is WHO WAS DRIVING THE PURPLE PONTIAC WHEN IT PULLED OUT OF THE DRIVE SUNDAY, 10/28/07. If DP was driving, Stacy was killed between 10:30 am - 11:30 am. If Stacy was driving, Stacy was killed between 1:30pm - 7:00 pm.This is correct.

[mysteriew]

Ok, I have been thinking about the warrant. When they write a warrant they have to write specifically what they are looking for. Say fingerprints, DNA, blood etc.
Ok, they have the autos and they said in court they are still processing that. So while they were examining the vehicle, maybe they saw something like fibers, soil samples, etc and let's say they saw some soil, but it isn't covered on the warrant. Would they have to reapply for a new warrant?

[SuziQ]

The below is posted by Randy Mucha at Gretawire:

Comment by R Mucha (http://www.ilpwda.com/)
December 4th, 2007 at 10:54 pm (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/04/tuesday-night-dec-4-post-your-show-comments-right-here/#comment-149880) Comment by barbann
December 4th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
R Mucha maybe you help me find reasons for the vehicles being forfeited?
If used in the commission of a felony, LE can seize them and file for forfieture. Then use them or sell them and use the proceeds.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/04/tuesday-night-dec-4-post-your-show-comments-right-here/#comments

ETA: that give a new spin on things doesn't it?

[tagalong]

I believe the warrant specified addition search for blue shavings or fibers, ring or impression on carpet where something has been. I can't remember what else.

[SuziQ]

Chicago -- A new search warrant has been issued in the Stacy Peterson case that refers to first degree murder. Craig Wall reports from Bolingbrook on what investigators are looking for.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5124947&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[chicoliving]

Link to video and the screen shot at this link says

Grand Jury Search Warrant

"....may have been utlilized in the commission of the offense of first degree murder or the concealment of a homicidal death"


http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5124947&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Leila]

Link to video and the screen shot at this link says

Grand Jury Search Warrant

"....may have been utlilized in the commission of the offense of first degree murder or the concealment of a homicidal death"


http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5124947&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Could it be that the reason for this warrant is that it's a warrant from the grand jury, as opposed to a police search warrant?

[closeobserver]

Could it be that the reason for this warrant is that it's a warrant from the grand jury, as opposed to a police search warrant?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/680965,petersonsearch120407b.article

At the end of this story, DP is quoted that the rumors of him doing a spread for Playgirl magazine are false. What a class act.

[chicoliving]

The warrant that Illinois State Police delivered to Drew Peterson's Bolingbrook home on Tuesday evening dealt with items inside two vehicles already seized from the residence, said Charles Pelkie, a spokesman for the Will County state's attorney's office.

"It expands the scope of the initial search warrant regarding items in his vehicles," Pelkie said. He declined to elaborate, including what items police found or were searching for.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5814759

[mysteriew]

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, told WFLD-TV that the warrant says police are seeking items that "may have been utilized in commission of the offense of first-degree murder or the concealment of a homicidal death."

The warrant also indicates interest in trace elements of several materials, including blue plastic, Brodsky told the Fox affiliate.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9LSLrzFQGStXb1io5FdErAtFFKgD8TB35O00

When they write a search warrant they try to make it as general as they can, but the law prohibits how general they can go and they must have some evidence or indication that points to the items they are searching for as being involved in the crime. So the part about "May have been utilized in commission of the offense of first-degree murder." interests me.

When we have considered theories before of how the crime went down, we always thought the argument happened in the bedroom. And maybe it started there. But what if during the argument Stacy got dressed and said she was leaving. Drew P has been using the garage door to enter the home and it appears that most others do too. What if Stacy used the garage door to exit the home that Sunday and Drew P followed her out. It could have happened in the garage, and Drew P could have then backed the car up into the garage and put Stacy's body into the trunk. Who would think twice about a homeowner working in and around his car in a garage on a Sunday?And that is why the urgency to get Stacy's car out of there and away from the home. It also explains the kids thinking that Stacy left and went to see Grandpa because the last they saw of her, she was headed out the door into the garage- Drew probably told them the Grandpa part.

[mysteriew]

The vehicles were taken after a search warrant was executed Nov. 1. Drew Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, said the latest search warrant may jeopardize the state's case if his client should be charged in connection with Stacy Peterson's disappearance.

"They're serving a new search warrant ... to correct errors in the original search warrant," Brodsky said. "The original warrants only authorized a search of the vehicles, not a seizure. That means that potentially any evidence -- and I'm not saying there is any -- that they've acquired from the vehicles prior to today could be tossed out of court for illegal seizure."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/northwest/chi-peterson_05dec05,0,7006993.story?coll=chi-homepagebiz-utl

[Camper]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/680965,petersonsearch120407b.article

At the end of this story, DP is quoted that the rumors of him doing a spread for Playgirl magazine are false. What a class act.



--->>>Even DP does not realize how mentally corrupt he is!!!!

Elsewhere in this forum, it was said that the second search warrant could negate the first search warrant in that areas of search that were not presented in the first could negate similar items asked for in the second search warrant.:angel: :banghead:

BUT as a matter of law, when the first search warrant was issued the - the Grand Jury had not convened, AM I RIGHT???

Need a legal answer on how IF IF IF a new matter is discovered in the GJ testimony and and IF IF it sorta covers a search item in the first search warrant would the GJ testimony supercede the first finding?

.

[mysteriew]

This is the fourth warrant issued since Stacy Peterson disappeared in late October.
http://www.abc15.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=1dc618ef-564b-4af5-93e4-5f5271713991

Is this an error on ABC's part? Warrants 1 and 2 were served on the home. What was warrant 3?
Warrant 1- Initial search of the home
Warrant 2- Police returned to the home, stayed briefly and said they were looking for something small and said they found it.
Warrant 3- ?
Warrant 4- Seizure of items in the vehicles

NBC is also calling it a 4th warrant

Fourth Search Warrant Executed At Peterson's Home
Peterson Downplays Search Warrant
http://www.nbc5.com/news/14777153/detail.html

[mysteriew]

An attorney for Drew Peterson says a search warrant served on his client tonight indicates interest in trace elements of several materials -- including blue plastic.
http://www.wthitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7452255

[mysteriew]

Brodsky has proposed two theories for the latest search warrant:

It is an excuse to keep the cars longer.
It is an attempt to correct an error in the first search warrant which allowd for a search of the vehicles, but not the seizure of any evidence in the vehicles. Now if this one is correct, wouldn't he have pointed this out before now?

Brodsky like Drew P seems to have as one of his goals to alienate as many people as possible, just like his client Drew P.

[DeltaDawn]

It was stated this was a warrant from the Grand Jury. could it be that the Grand Jury has requested more specfic info on the cars and what was found, or not found yet,,and this proceeds LE 's desire to find whatever the GJ has asked for?

Just thinking that the GJ meets again today and maybe they wanted something very specific that they had questions about looked into involving the cars..so this addt'l warrant came from them.

[dee10134]

This is the fourth warrant issued since Stacy Peterson disappeared in late October.
http://www.abc15.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=1dc618ef-564b-4af5-93e4-5f5271713991

Is this an error on ABC's part? Warrants 1 and 2 were served on the home. What was warrant 3?
Warrant 1- Initial search of the home
Warrant 2- Police returned to the home, stayed briefly and said they were looking for something small and said they found it.
Warrant 3- ?
Warrant 4- Seizure of items in the vehicles

NBC is also calling it a 4th warrant

Fourth Search Warrant Executed At Peterson's Home
Peterson Downplays Search Warrant
http://www.nbc5.com/news/14777153/detail.html

Maybe that "something small" was the bikini that DP says Stacy took with her..... :liar:

[Taximom]

Warrant 2- Police returned to the home, stayed briefly and said they were looking for something small and said they found it.

LE, please let DrewP you have found his brain. Thank you.

[DeltaDawn]

This is the fourth warrant issued since Stacy Peterson disappeared in late October.
http://www.abc15.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=1dc618ef-564b-4af5-93e4-5f5271713991

Is this an error on ABC's part? Warrants 1 and 2 were served on the home. What was warrant 3?
Warrant 1- Initial search of the home
Warrant 2- Police returned to the home, stayed briefly and said they were looking for something small and said they found it.
Warrant 3- ?
Warrant 4- Seizure of items in the vehicles

NBC is also calling it a 4th warrant

Fourth Search Warrant Executed At Peterson's Home
Peterson Downplays Search Warrant
http://www.nbc5.com/news/14777153/detail.html

WASN'T THE 3RD WARRANT FOR THE TWO VEHICLES , separate from the items in the house?

[DeltaDawn]

Warrant 2- Police returned to the home, stayed briefly and said they were looking for something small and said they found it.

LE, please let DrewP you have found his brain. Thank you.


LOL, that's a good one!

Maybe they were looking for small bugs, tracking devices that DP had already removed from Stacy's car? Or her second cell phone..Drew may not have realized she had the second one?

[SewingDeb]

Good thoughts Delta Dawn.

[mysteriew]

WASN'T THE 3RD WARRANT FOR THE TWO VEHICLES , separate from the items in the house?

The vehicles were taken at the same time of the first warrant and I thought it was on the same warrant.

I guess they could have had two warrants- one for the search of the home, the second to seize the computers and vehicles and other items found during the search.

[DeltaDawn]

From what I heard on Greta the GJ did not meet today. They will instead meet next week possibly.

Maybe they are waiting to get the results of the search warrant last night and the canal search today into tomorrow. I hope they are getting what they need..this seems to be coming more and more specific, to me that means that they know exactly what and where these items of evidence may be found, and exactly what they are looking for.

[Leila]

It was stated this was a warrant from the Grand Jury. could it be that the Grand Jury has requested more specfic info on the cars and what was found, or not found yet,,and this proceeds LE 's desire to find whatever the GJ has asked for?

Just thinking that the GJ meets again today and maybe they wanted something very specific that they had questions about looked into involving the cars..so this addt'l warrant came from them.

I think the difference is that this IS a warrant from the grand jury. The language used in this warrant is different in that they used the term "forfeiture" indicating that if the vehicle was used in the commission of a felony, it could be withheld permanently.

In the warrant it asks for trace evidence of particles from a blue container, scuba weights, and other materials. This could be additional items not in the first two warrants?

[SeriouslySearching]

The new search warrant also is requesting anything that could contain bodily fluids, blood, fingernail clippings, urine, etc. on item or in items is the way I take it to read. It goes on and on about many things such as underneath the vehicles to include any foreign matter, dirt, etc. (Shouldn't we be able to get a copy of that?)

A poster put it up on Gretawire night owl's blog...but I forgot to copy it! Sorry.

[dee10134]

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/


As you know — if you follow the Sgt. Drew Peterson/Stacy Peterson investigation - there was another warrant served on Sgt. Drew Peterson. The Chicago Tribune, click here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson06_webdec06,0,3764694,print.story?coll=chi _tab01_layout) for their FULL story, notes the following items in the newest warrant:
Other items listed in the newest warrant were:
•Objects that contain or have traces of “blue plastic, lead weights, plastic shavings, plastic scuff marks, circular impressions or carpet indentations, and any other indication of the carrying, placing, movement or collision of a plastic or barrel-like object or large storage container.”
•Materials on the vehicles including “dirt, gravel, soil, dust and any other accretive material which might be tested and compared to materials from a particular location to determine a vehicle’s presence at the location.”
•Objects that “have any of the following on them: blood, hairs, fingernails, bodily fluids, body tissue, DNA, fingerprints, fingernail scrapings, palm prints, saliva, urine, feces, or other biological material which may be evidence of the offense of first-degree murder.”
•Instruments that may have been used as a weapon or restraint, including guns, ammunition, knives, rope and rugs.
•Objects with “chemical traces relating to pool chemicals or any chemical which might be utilized to retard, mask or accelerate the deterioration or decomposition of a human body.”

[SuziQ]

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5817655

(snip)
The warrant served on Drew Peterson this week sought items containing plastic shavings, blood, bodily fluids, fingernail scrapings and chemicals that may alter the decomposition of a body. It also listed any "biological material that may be evidence of the offense of first-degree murder."
The Tribune today reports that a copy of another warrant indicates authorities were looking for all GPS and other records relating to Peterson's SUV.

[dottierainbow]

I'm thinking that may be why they are searching the canal because of GPS. Has anything been heard on what Peterson is doing while search is going on? Who is with him?
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5817655

(snip)
The warrant served on Drew Peterson this week sought items containing plastic shavings, blood, bodily fluids, fingernail scrapings and chemicals that may alter the decomposition of a body. It also listed any "biological material that may be evidence of the offense of first-degree murder."
The Tribune today reports that a copy of another warrant indicates authorities were looking for all GPS and other records relating to Peterson's SUV.

[mysteriew]

A copy of the first warrant, executed Nov. 1, shows authorities sought "all GPS records, cellular service records, logging records or any other electronic records in the possession of OnStar Inc. . . . relating to the above described GMC vehicle."

The warrant did not state what police hoped to learn from the OnStar system. OnStar's global positioning does not constantly monitor a vehicle's location, said OnStar spokesman Jim Kobus.

"We do not track our subscribers' vehicles—that's the bottom line," Kobus said. "The only time we would know where the vehicle is, is when the driver initiates contact to OnStar or when the vehicle has been in an accident, the air bag deploys and the vehicle automatically calls us for help."

Kobus said the system in Peterson's vehicle was an older version, and requests for driving directions were done by speaking with an operator.

snip...Asked his opinion about the breadth of the items sought, attorney Mark Rotert, a former state and federal prosecutor now in private practice, said the warrants suggest authorities are conducting more than a scattershot search.

"I don't view . . . these search warrants as a sort of 'casting a broad net' kind of thing," Rotert said. "This suggests that there are some pretty specific theories in place. They might be based on logic, they might be based on specific information from interview, or some combination of the two."

He said the warrants seem to indicate—aside from the section about weapons—authorities are directing their attention toward the possible disposal of Stacy Peterson's body, rather than how she may have died.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson06_webdec06,0,3206859.story?coll=chi_tab05 _layout

[mysteriew]

Question:

The OnStar info was mentioned in the first warrant. And as the article above discusses it, it looks as though it might not be of any assistance. But now in the 4th warrant, they are asking for GPS info. Is there any other system on a vehicle that tracks GPS info that is not related to the OnStar system?

[SeriouslySearching]

Would the Black Box be of any help there?

[chicoliving]

I think you can get gps units to install yourself and if that's the case then the warrant for Onstar just wouldn't apply and they needed to be less specific on which gps unit and have it be any unit.

[DeltaDawn]

I think you can get gps units to install yourself and if that's the case then the warrant for Onstar just wouldn't apply and they needed to be less specific on which gps unit and have it be any unit.

Exactly Chico..there are many manufactures of GPS systems..we just went through that this weekend because we wanted to buy our son one for Christmas.
So to make sense this warrant needed to be less specific and say only GPS and not a brand name like "OnStar".

[mysteriew]

Ok, the subject of the GPS also came up on the 'Suspect Drew Peterson' thread. InDallas2 says she has a Denali and it came with both OnStar and GPS factory installed.
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56994&page=13

[DeltaDawn]

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/


As you know — if you follow the Sgt. Drew Peterson/Stacy Peterson investigation - there was another warrant served on Sgt. Drew Peterson. The Chicago Tribune, click here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson06_webdec06,0,3764694,print.story?coll=chi _tab01_layout) for their FULL story, notes the following items in the newest warrant:
Other items listed in the newest warrant were:
•Objects that contain or have traces of “blue plastic, lead weights, plastic shavings, plastic scuff marks, circular impressions or carpet indentations, and any other indication of the carrying, placing, movement or collision of a plastic or barrel-like object or large storage container.”
•Materials on the vehicles including “dirt, gravel, soil, dust and any other accretive material which might be tested and compared to materials from a particular location to determine a vehicle’s presence at the location.”
•Objects that “have any of the following on them: blood, hairs, fingernails, bodily fluids, body tissue, DNA, fingerprints, fingernail scrapings, palm prints, saliva, urine, feces, or other biological material which may be evidence of the offense of first-degree murder.”
•Instruments that may have been used as a weapon or restraint, including guns, ammunition, knives, rope and rugs.
•Objects with “chemical traces relating to pool chemicals or any chemical which might be utilized to retard, mask or accelerate the deterioration or decomposition of a human body.”

I have to say when I read this I wondered ..where are Drew's handcuffs? Have they been returned to LE or are they part of the missing LE items that Drew should have turned in but didn't? Handcuffs would come in handy to restain someone that small, particularly if he appiled them with her hands in back of her. And then added a set of shackles to her legs..she would have never been able to fight her way out of those.

[mysteriew]

“chemical traces relating to pool chemicals or any chemical which might be utilized to retard, mask or accelerate the deterioration or decomposition of a human body.”

It sounds like LE is not going to rule out some other disposal method other than putting it into the water.

[SuziQ]

December 4th, and previous search warrants.
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/petersonwarrants.pdf_20071206_16_18_15_80.imageCon tent

[mysteriew]

December 4th, and previous search warrants.
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/petersonwarrants.pdf_20071206_16_18_15_80.imageCon tent

SusiQ, could you put this somewhere where it won't get lost? Maybe in one of the sticky's? I have a feeling we will be referring to it frequently.

Brodsky keeps saying that the 4th warrant is to correct errors in the 1st warrant which didn't allow for seizure of any materials found in the vehicles and that any materials found prior to the issuance of the 4th warrant would be inadmissible. However, all the warrants have a little blurb at the bottom that talks about seizing evidence and allowing 'reasonable' time to analyze the evidence. So I am not sure where Brodsky's complaint is.

Can anyone tell from the warrant on 11-6 what LE was looking for when they went back to the house to look for and obtain the 'something small'?

[mysteriew]

Inside the cops' search for Stacy Peterson

The State Police have obtained four search warrants for Drew Peterson's home and two vehicles -- a 2005 dark blue GMC Yukon Denali sport-utility vehicle and a 2002 purple Pontiac Grand Prix -- since his wife, Stacy, disappeared Oct.28. Here's what they sought and how investigators could use the evidence:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/685499,CST-NWS-boling07.article

A computer described in one warrant was listed on the warrant as missing!

[mysteriew]

December 4th, and previous search warrants.
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/petersonwarrants.pdf_20071206_16_18_15_80.imageCon tent

Thank you for starting the documents thread SuziQ

[Jaded]

Inside the cops' search for Stacy Peterson

The State Police have obtained four search warrants for Drew Peterson's home and two vehicles -- a 2005 dark blue GMC Yukon Denali sport-utility vehicle and a 2002 purple Pontiac Grand Prix -- since his wife, Stacy, disappeared Oct.28. Here's what they sought and how investigators could use the evidence:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/685499,CST-NWS-boling07.article

A computer described in one warrant was listed on the warrant as missing!

I just noticed at the bottom of that particular search warrant it states missing apple computer laptop. Interesting. Did Drew just "misplace" this?

[TGIRecovered]

I just noticed at the bottom of that particular search warrant it states missing apple computer laptop. Interesting. Did Drew just "misplace" this?

How much you wanna bet it belongs to the BBPD and is now in the blue container with Stacy's purse and cellphone? Bet he used it to decide where to dump the body.

[SuziQ]

Thank you for starting the documents thread SuziQ

Thx for th idea!

[SuziQ]

I am praying that if the computer belonged to BBPD that it had, unknown to Drew, the below listed tracking capability. I know alot of government agencies and other companies are using this on computers that contain sensitive info. LE would be able to track the computer to it's exact location.
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[fran]

I just noticed at the bottom of that particular search warrant it states missing apple computer laptop. Interesting. Did Drew just "misplace" this?

Wow! That's interesting, a missing computer. :waitasec:

Wonder if he used it to check the tides and currents?:p

Maybe he watched the Peterson West case?:rolleyes:

Just wonderin',:angel:
fran

[SuziQ]

Dr Baden discusses the new search warrant:

http://tinyurl.com/ypr7wp