Pastor - Neil Schori

[SieSie]

Let's discuss info. related to the pastor here...

From Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316432,00.html):

An ex-cop's missing wife once confessed to her pastor that her husband admitted killing his third wife, the pastor told FOX News' Greta Van Susteren in an interview that aired Monday night.


Stacy Peterson offered enough detail to be credible, said Schori, who declined to discuss those details in the interview.

"But it was very clear that this was not just speculation," he said. "She was not jumping to conclusions."

More at link above.

From Fox News home page there's a picture of the pastor (not sure how long it will stay up there).
http://i1.tinypic.com/828ymol.jpg

[Jaded]

I thought his interview was very compelling, and he sounded very sincere.

[SieSie]

Transcript from Fox News, Greta's On the Record
Stacy Peterson's Pastor Goes 'On the Record' (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316418,00.html)


SCHORI: She said, He did it.

VAN SUSTEREN: Just like that.

SCHORI: Just like that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know what the reference point was, as that point, that, He did it?

SCHORI: I had a feeling, but I needed clarification, so of course, I followed up.

VAN SUSTEREN: How did you happen to know that that — I mean, had you spoken about the "He did it" aspect before with her?

SCHORI: I had never spoken with her about that before. I had just heard casual conversations in the community and in my own church about speculation over an interesting death of Mr. Peterson's wife, his third wife.

VAN SUSTEREN: So when she said, He did it, what did you believe that to mean?

SCHORI: I believed, unfortunately, that it was exactly what I thought, and I believed that it was related to the death of his wife. But I clarified, and I said, He did what? And she said, He killed Kathleen. And I was really blown away. I was reeling inside.

VAN SUSTEREN: So how — what did do you?

SCHORI: I asked for more specific things. She gave me details that I really can't share. But I just got her talking about it and asked her what — this is a crazy amount of information. Again, I asked her, What exactly can I do with this? Why did you tell me? I asked her if she had ever told anyone else. She said at the time, she had never told another person.

VAN SUSTEREN: What was the reason for her all of a sudden do you think or the compulsion to suddenly tell you? What was — what was eating at her, or why did she want to tell you?

SCHORI: I've wondered that for two-and-a-half months. I hope that it's because she looked at me as a safe person that she could share some very important information with. It's really speculation, at this point.

VAN SUSTEREN: How do you know that it wasn't just speculation on her part, you know, that she had information that he had — did it?

SCHORI: She had specific information.

Whole transcript available at link above.

[SieSie]

I thought his interview was very compelling, and he sounded very sincere.
Me too. I believe him and don't think he has any reason to lie. I'm hoping his testimony will be one more nail in DP's coffin.

[indallas2]

I thought his interview was very compelling, and he sounded very sincere.

Me too!!!

[swa]

As a pastor and minister of God -- why didn't he come forward with this BEFORE she went missing? This was a crime. Personally -- I don't believe him.

[Jaded]

Me too. I believe him and don't think he has any reason to lie. I'm hoping his testimony will be one more nail in DP's coffin.

Especially when he became uncomfortable with some of the questions asked by Greta and his responses were that he couldn't share the particulars. LE has been VERY tight lipped about much of this investigation. I hope that the pastor's information will at least get DP off the streets for Kathleen's murder.

[closeobserver]

As a pastor and minister of God -- why didn't he come forward with this BEFORE she went missing? This was a crime. Personally -- I don't believe him.
Fine line. Perhaps she was adamant to him not to. Perhaps she felt her life would be in greater danger if he came forward. Certainly if he reported it to the police, DP would know she was telling people. Also, this put the Pastor's life on the line, too.

[Dobler]

I personally can't wait for Brodsky to cross examine him- that means DP will be where he belongs. I think the pastor is credible and wanted to keep the confidence with Stacy- obviously DP knew that she was talking to the pastor.

[Tom'sGirl]

Let's discuss info. related to the pastor here...

From Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316432,00.html):



More at link above.


From Fox News home page there's a picture of the pastor (not sure how long it will stay up there).

I took some screen shots and posted them in PhotoThread of Pastor Neil Schori

[fundiva]

Fine line. Perhaps she was adamant to him not to. Perhaps she felt her life would be in greater danger if he came forward. Certainly if he reported it to the police, DP would know she was telling people. Also, this put the Pastor's life on the line, too.
Interestingly, when the Pastor returned home or to the church after meeting with Stacey he had a voice message from DP wanting to meet with him.....hmmm, do you think DP was following Stacey or had her bugged? I'm sure she didn't tell DP because she wouldn't want him to know she had talked to the Pastor because DP would want to know what they discussed. The Pastor said he became very anxious when he saw there was a voice mail from DP immediately after the meeting with Stacey.

[kpass]

Interestingly, when the Pastor returned home or to the church after meeting with Stacey he had a voice message from DP wanting to meet with him.....hmmm, do you think DP was following Stacey or had her bugged? I'm sure she didn't tell DP because she wouldn't want him to know she had talked to the Pastor because DP would want to know what they discussed. The Pastor said he became very anxious when he saw there was a voice mail from DP immediately after the meeting with Stacey.

I'm sure the Pastor is kicking himself in the butt now for not going right to the police with the info Stacy gave him regarding Kathleen's murder. Talk about being "between a rock & a hard place!"

[SieSie]

I took some screen shots and posted them in PhotoThread of Pastor Neil Schori
Thanks, TG, good idea. :D

I'm sure the Pastor is kicking himself in the butt now for not going right to the police with the info Stacy gave him regarding Kathleen's murder. Talk about being "between a rock & a hard place!"
No doubt! I don't fault him for not coming forward before Stacy disappeared, I would think it would be an awful dilemma to be in and maybe he even discussed it (perhaps without using names) to another pastor to get advice on what to do. ??

[SuziQ]

Thanks for starting this thread SieSie!

The below links are crossposted from the Stacy thread. I haven't been able to get the videos to open. Greta's site is running very slow, for me anyways. High traffic maybe?

Interview with Pastor on Greta:

Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/2dhml2

Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/24wure

[browneyedgirl]

I personally can't wait for Brodsky to cross examine him- that means DP will be where he belongs. I think the pastor is credible and wanted to keep the confidence with Stacy- obviously DP knew that she was talking to the pastor.

Could you only imagine how scared the man was, getting back to the office and having a voice mail waiting on him from DP? I bet he about crapped his pants - I would have.

[SuziQ]

As a pastor and minister of God -- why didn't he come forward with this BEFORE she went missing? This was a crime. Personally -- I don't believe him.

This only happened four months ago, so I'm sure phone records will be pulled to at least confirm the meeting took place. The beauty of Schori's knowledge will be whether he knows some facts about Kathleens death that has not been released to the public.

[Dobler]

So according to the pastor, Stacy knew about DP murdering Kathleen right after it happened- why did Stacy go to the pastor and reveal this in Aug. -years later? Did DP threaten Stacy in Aug.?

[MREG2]

I'm barging in here but could it be possible that the pastor didn't go to the police because he knew/thought that since they were Drew's buddies nothing would be done? And possible he would be bringing harm to himself. Maybe Stacy mentioned something about Drew telling her that if she ever went to the police they would laugh at her/not believe her/does she really think they would do anything. Maybe the pastor felt that since the FBI and others are involved he would be believed and something would be done.

[Dobler]

I'm thinking that she didn't want the pastor to say anything because she was Drew's alibi, and that would mean that she lied to the police during the initial interview after Kathleen's death- she would be in trouble as well.

[nanandjim]

I saw part of this interview. I think that the pastor has no reason to lie. I bet that he gave police all of the details that Stacy told to him. There are two reasons that may have kept the pastor from going to the police. Maybe, Stacy asked him not to say anything and maybe he didn't know what to do as Drew was on the police force himself. At the very least, I would then think that this pastor would consult his superior. This is a very serious allegation. If Drew was capable of murdering one wife, he certainly was capable of murdering another.

It wouldn't surprise me if Drew was arrested for Kathleen's murder before he is arrested for Stacy's.

[SuziQ]

I'm thinking that she didn't want the pastor to say anything because she was Drew's alibi, and that would mean that she lied to the police during the initial interview after Kathleen's death- she would be in trouble as well.

And I bet Drew pointed that out to Stacy any chance he got. He may have even gone as far as telling her she would be blamed for it. After all, he got away with it initially.

[Logger]

As a pastor and minister of God -- why didn't he come forward with this BEFORE she went missing? This was a crime. Personally -- I don't believe him.

I would be curious if he discussed Stacy's conversation with another pastor or counselor? If he didn't he made a poor choice. In California a mandatory reporter must report murder or threats to harm self or others to LE. If he was being cautious because Drew was a Police Officer in the department he would be reporting to he should of discussed it with someone else.

He looks very young. Didn't he realize Stacy was in extreme danger? And does he have any remorse now for sitting on this information?

[DeltaDawn]

And I bet Drew pointed that out to Stacy any chance he got. He may have even gone as far as telling her she would be blamed for it. After all, he got away with it initially.

I believe that several of these things took place. Drew hung it over her head that she was his alabi therefore an accomplice and maybe that he would twist things to make it look like Stacy took more of a role in the actual murder of Kathleeen.

Also I think that it is very possible Drew told her she would never be allowed to leave him because the same thing would happen to her. He told wife number 2 and Kathleen how could murder them and make it look like an accident. So there is no reason to beleive he wouldn't have told Stacy the same thing. Drew was very skilled at manipulating his wives by using bully and fear to get the results he wanted.

I'm sure Stacy felt if she went to the police that would not keep Drew from having a little accidental death befall her. I am sure she shared all this and more with the pastor. I think she may have even started the conversation with the fact that this needed to be kept confidential until she was prepared to move forward with the info...she would need to know and believe that the pastor would not let this info out until she was ready.

I think she was preparing to leave Drew and may have mentioned that to the pastor and that this was why..and also how much she feared for her life.

It is amazing how much we learned from just the little bit he was able to tell us..that this does jive with the other info the police have. That so far everyone's story has been alittle different but the main facts have not changed..they all seem to back each other up. Yet they don't know each other. The minister having a phone message from Drew when he returns backs up the stories of Drew's stalking and bugging that others have related.

The peices of the puzzle continue to fall into place.

[SuziQ]

I would be curious if he discussed Stacy's conversation with another pastor or counselor? If he didn't he made a poor choice. In California a mandatory reporter must report murder or threats to harm self or others to LE. If he was being cautious because Drew was a Police Officer in the department he would be reporting to he should of discussed it with someone else.

He looks very young. Didn't he realize Stacy was in extreme danger? And does he have any remorse now for sitting on this information?

Someone at Greta posted the California law and explained it would only have applied if Stacy said she had or would kill someone. It doesn't apply to second party hearsay or what could be considered gossip.

Schori is 32 years old. Has a lengthy educational resume, and probably does feel remorse. But I'm not sure he had a legal leg to stand on to report anything until Stacy went missing and a crime directly related to her obviously occured.

[Leila]

Fine line. Perhaps she was adamant to him not to. Perhaps she felt her life would be in greater danger if he came forward. Certainly if he reported it to the police, DP would know she was telling people. Also, this put the Pastor's life on the line, too.

I feel Stacy would have been frightened that the pastor might tell the police and it would turn out to be the "wrong police" - those who were DP's friends. This information in the wrong hands would be a disaster. Not only would DP find out that Stacy had told someone, he would know who that someone was.

I think Stacy would have told the pastor to please keep the information confidential. The pastor, in his capacity as a counselor, would be obligated to keep the information confidential unless he felt Stacy was in danger. Stacy told the pastor about DP killing Kathleen, but from what the pastor said in his interview with Greta, she didn't tell the pastor that she was being physically abused. Had that been the case - DP killing Kathleen and now physically abusive to Stacy, that would have been the one thing that may have prompted the pastor to break his obligation of confidentiality and tell authorities.

[curiositycat]

Does anyone know what Christian Denomination the church is that this man pastors? I am an ordained women's minister and I have to tell you that if someone came to me with this information I would have been obligated by God and my conscience to tell the police.
Something about this "pastor" just doesn't set right with me. No evidence, just a hunch.

[DeltaDawn]

You would have gone to the BB police knowing that her husband is a cop on their force, that his third wife Kathleen had called them 18 times and was murdered by him, that his current wife was afraid of him, and when you get back to the office there is a voice mail from him saying he knows where you were and you just met with his wife?

Most importantly I believe she prefaced the whole meeting with the fact that this must remain confidential..it was a situation where he was damned if you and damned if you don't.

[closeobserver]

Does anyone know what Christian Denomination the church is that this man pastors? I am an ordained women's minister and I have to tell you that if someone came to me with this information I would have been obligated by God and my conscience to tell the police.
Something about this "pastor" just doesn't set right with me. No evidence, just a hunch.
With all due respect, bring this to police based on what? There was no indication that Stacy said there was an immenent threat to her life. Perhaps she did, but that is not stated. She may have told the pastor that she needed prayers as she was working on a plan to make this right, but she need time. She also may have stated to the Pastor that telling authorities at this time would only endanger her more.

I believe that his obligation was to bring it up to senior pastoral staff, which appears to be what he did. From there, I'm sure that he was advised on what to do next.

It is always easy to look back in the mirror after the fact and say what he should have done, but I'm sure he was doing what he felt was the right thing.

[WindChime]

I also heard Mark Furman say that ISp most likely leaked the info out about the pastor and he said it was us (media)who tracked the pastor down and started asking him questions. Like others I believe he feared going to BBPD knowing that Drew worked there and I'm sure Stacy would of told the pastor that NO one is going to believe us. I believe the pastor did a lot of soul searching and many sleepless nights thinking that if he reported what Stacy had told him that Stacy could very well come up dead and himself as well. This is just my own thinking.

[Wudge]

You would have gone to the BB police knowing that her husband is a cop on their force, that his third wife Kathleen had called them 18 times and was murdered by him, that his current wife was afraid of him, and when you get back to the office there is a voice mail from him saying he knows where you were and you just met with his wife?

Most importantly I believe she prefaced the whole meeting with the fact that this must remain confidential..it was a situation where he was damned if you and damned if you don't.

Tall tale or otherwise, the pastor's reporting is twice removed hearsay and Stacey is not available to be confronted, thus, inadmissible as evidence.

[Tom'sGirl]

[quote]Does anyone know what Christian Denomination the church is that this man pastors?

It just says Naperville Christian Church
http://www.napervillechristian.org/Mail/Congregation/Installation_letter_11.12.07.pdf

[capps]

I understand that the pastor may have,after much consideration,and talking to his superiors,decided to go to LE and tell them what he knows.If all is true,I'm glad he did.

What I have a hard time with is,talking to LE is one thing,doing an inteview with a nightly news show is something else. I'm surprised he did that.

[tagalong]

I'm praying and hoping that Stacy told someone else after she told her pastor about DP killing wife #3. I feel like Stacy may have told someone else, since her pastor asked for anyone to come forward if they had any information at all (that comment seemed a little odd coming from pastor - I thought).

[mysteriew]

I believe that Stacy shared info with the pastor in Aug. because she already knew she was leaving DrewP. And I believe it is possible that she may have asked him not to report the info until she had gotten away from DrewP.
I also believe that she shared with the pastor for a reason. That reason being that if she ended up dead or missing, she wanted that info to come out. This was her way of insuring that.

[BarnGoddess]

He's 32? He looks so much younger. I wonder just how new he is to being a clergyman. He said he did more counseling than preaching. I do remember Brodsky? saying something earlier about things told to a pastor shouldn't be repeated. The confidential bit. I know Greta did have the Illinois law there and said he could report conversations to the authorities. I just wonder how much inexperience caused his hesitation to report to the police immediately.

[tagalong]

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — An ex-cop's missing wife once confessed to her pastor that her husband admitted killing his third wife, the pastor told FOX News' Greta Van Susteren in an interview that aired Monday night.
Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told "On the Record" that he was "reeling inside" after his conversation with Stacy Peterson over coffee in August.
"He killed Kathleen (Savio)," Stacy Peterson had said, according to Schori.
FOXNEWS.COM HOME (http://www.foxnews.com/index.html) > U.S. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/index.html)

What's with the FORMER?

[SuziQ]

Tall tale or otherwise, the pastor's reporting is twice removed hearsay and Stacey is not available to be confronted, thus, inadmissible as evidence.

Most likely true, unless it can be tied to motive. As in this conversation caused Stacy's demise. Which would make the Pastor a first party and no longer hearsay. Otherwise, it probably can't be used in court at all. But what a great investigative tool. And whatever Drew said to the Pastor isn't hearsay.

[SuziQ]

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — An ex-cop's missing wife once confessed to her pastor that her husband admitted killing his third wife, the pastor told FOX News' Greta Van Susteren in an interview that aired Monday night.
Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told "On the Record" that he was "reeling inside" after his conversation with Stacy Peterson over coffee in August.
"He killed Kathleen (Savio)," Stacy Peterson had said, according to Schori.
FOXNEWS.COM HOME (http://www.foxnews.com/index.html) > U.S. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/index.html)

What's with the FORMER?

He's currently at a different church.

[SuziQ]

He is currently here as Tomsgirl linked above:

http://www.napervillechristian.org/contact.htm

[Tom'sGirl]

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — An ex-cop's missing wife once confessed to her pastor that her husband admitted killing his third wife, the pastor told FOX News' Greta Van Susteren in an interview that aired Monday night.
Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told "On the Record" that he was "reeling inside" after his conversation with Stacy Peterson over coffee in August.
"He killed Kathleen (Savio)," Stacy Peterson had said, according to Schori.
FOXNEWS.COM HOME (http://www.foxnews.com/index.html) > U.S. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/index.html)

What's with the FORMER?

He's now with Naperville Christian Church
http://www.napervillechristian.org/M...r_11.12.07.pdf (http://www.napervillechristian.org/Mail/Congregation/Installation_letter_11.12.07.pdf)

Contents of PDF
http://i9.tinypic.com/6x9zo2f.jpg

[SuziQ]

The below is what I found on Schori. It appears that the coffee house is involved in his daily life and would explain Stacy meeting him at one.

http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=-153124

M.A., Counseling
Lincoln Christian Seminary

B.S., Political Science
Illinois State University

Neil Schori Pastor of Community Care Neil comes to Westbrook after growing up in Bloomington, IL, graduating from Illinois State University and Lincoln Christian Seminary with a degree in Biblical Counseling.
...
Neil is married to Brandi and they have one daughter. If you need to meet with Neil - he will either be at Westbrook Church or Caribou Coffee just up the street from the Ministry Center.

[Schmerty_Jones]

It sounds like DrewP. had some sort of bugging device on Stacy. Doesn't sound like the could talk, laugh or spit without him hearing. Do you think he heard the conversation she had with Pastor Schori! ???

[SuziQ]

Counseling Pastor at Westbrook Church and Owner, 180 Life Consulting

Current: Owner, 180 Life Consulting
Counseling Pastor, Westbrook Church
Past: Spiritual Care Coordinator, Odyssey Healthcare
Manager, Four Seasons Association
Education: MA, Lincoln Christian College & Seminary

http://www.linkedin.com/find/s/s31/s31_37.html

http://www.odyssey-healthcare.com/

[Wudge]

Most likely true, unless it can be tied to motive. As in this conversation caused Stacy's demise. Which would make the Pastor a first party and no longer hearsay. Otherwise, it probably can't be used in court at all. But what a great investigative tool. And whatever Drew said to the Pastor isn't hearsay.


What did Drew say to the pastor that would be inculpatory evidence?

[SuziQ]

What did Drew say to the pastor that would be inculpatory evidence?

Lol, I have no idea. That's why I said whatever Drew said...

I wish I knew though!

[TGIRecovered]

Would it make a difference if the pastor can tell police details of Kathleen's death that only the killer would know? Something that could be proven to be fact?

That would leave it up the the jury to decide if the pastor killed Kathleen:rolleyes: , or Stacy or Drew killed her.

susan

[curiositycat]

With all due respect, bring this to police based on what? There was no indication that Stacy said there was an immenent threat to her life. Perhaps she did, but that is not stated. She may have told the pastor that she needed prayers as she was working on a plan to make this right, but she need time. She also may have stated to the Pastor that telling authorities at this time would only endanger her more.

I believe that his obligation was to bring it up to senior pastoral staff, which appears to be what he did. From there, I'm sure that he was advised on what to do next.

It is always easy to look back in the mirror after the fact and say what he should have done, but I'm sure he was doing what he felt was the right thing.

Well, last night on GVS he said that there had been rumors around the church regarding Kathy Savio. There is a new Chief of Police in Bolingbrook. I would of done it based on that. I know I am treading on icy water here, but just think about this perhaps Stacy would be here today if he had of taken some action. IMHO

[cricket]

I don't know enough about what Stacy may have told him to know whether he should have reported this to authorities. I DO have an opinion on the pastor speaking out on national TV. I do not understand at all how he could be telling people (other than LE) what she confided to him. While I believe that Stacy is probably dead, there is no proof yet that she is, and for him to ignore the promise of confidentiality just seems very wrong. What if Stacy is alive and is a "runaway wife" and is alive - and this pastor is on national TV discussing confidential discussions? No pastor I have ever heard of would violate confidentiality.

OMG - Brodsky is on Abrams right now spreading a rumor that Stacy may have been involved with the pastor..................he is slime!

[Jaded]

I don't know enough about what Stacy may have told him to know whether he should have reported this to authorities. I DO have an opinion on the pastor speaking out on national TV. I do not understand at all how he could be telling people (other than LE) what she confided to him. While I believe that Stacy is probably dead, there is no proof yet that she is, and for him to ignore the promise of confidentiality just seems very wrong. What if Stacy is alive and is a "runaway wife" and is alive - and this pastor is on national TV discussing confidential discussions? No pastor I have ever heard of would violate confidentiality.

OMG - Brodsky is on Abrams right now spreading a rumor that Stacy may have been involved with the pastor..................he is slime!

He is worse than slime! I am beyond disgusted!

[SuziQ]

OMG - Brodsky is on Abrams right now spreading a rumor that Stacy may have been involved with the pastor..................he is slime!

I saw that one coming. There has to be a point in time that Brodsky crosses that one line he can't recover from. He'll get shredded if this case ever goes to trial.

[SuziQ]

I don't know enough about what Stacy may have told him to know whether he should have reported this to authorities. I DO have an opinion on the pastor speaking out on national TV. I do not understand at all how he could be telling people (other than LE) what she confided to him. While I believe that Stacy is probably dead, there is no proof yet that she is, and for him to ignore the promise of confidentiality just seems very wrong. What if Stacy is alive and is a "runaway wife" and is alive - and this pastor is on national TV discussing confidential discussions? No pastor I have ever heard of would violate confidentiality.

OMG - Brodsky is on Abrams right now spreading a rumor that Stacy may have been involved with the pastor..................he is slime!

People give too much faith in confidentiality ethics and laws. They are not as air tight as people would like to believe. Believe me when I say I KNOW! At the very end of the interview with Greta, I think Schori explains pretty well why he's coming forward in the media. He want's other people that may have information to come forward and do the same thing even though it's tough. Also, by telling his story from his own mouth, prevents the media from making up stuff because he wasn't talking.

[englishleigh]

I saw that one coming. There has to be a point in time that Brodsky crosses that one line he can't recover from. He'll get shredded if this case ever goes to trial.

Mark Fuhrman is on Greta and he basically just said that...that Brodsky has gone too far and that it's time for him to "step away" from the case.

[panthera]

Interestingly, when the Pastor returned home or to the church after meeting with Stacey he had a voice message from DP wanting to meet with him.....hmmm, do you think DP was following Stacey or had her bugged? I'm sure she didn't tell DP because she wouldn't want him to know she had talked to the Pastor because DP would want to know what they discussed. The Pastor said he became very anxious when he saw there was a voice mail from DP immediately after the meeting with Stacey.
I found that very eerie also. I think DP knew that Stacy had gone to see him and maybe he was suspicious that she'd said something so he called the pastor. I don't fault the pastor for not saying anything before now. He still has to be afraid for his own life.

[panthera]

Mark Fuhrman is on Greta and he basically just said that...that Brodsky has gone too far and that it's time for him to "step away" from the case.
Mark is right (as usual)! :)

[Leila]

Greta just reported it, saying she was getting a lot of emails from listeners saying that Brodsky was interviewed on another media and said that the pastor was involved in an affair with Stacy.

Greta asked Mark Fuhrman about this an he's very upset. He says the pastor is above reproach, and said that Brodsky brings shame to his profession. Greta says that if the report is true, it's actionable.

[Lisa Too]

Greta just reported it, saying she was getting a lot of emails from listeners saying that Brodsky was interviewed on another media and said that the pastor was involved in an affair with Stacy.

Greta asked Mark Fuhrman about this an he's very upset. He says the pastor is above reproach, and said that Brodsky brings shame to his profession. Greta says that if the report is true, it's actionable.

This is all too far out to be believable! What's next? I don't even think the most creative mind can guess. How low can you get - implicating the pastor? Now, that's pretty creative! And desparate, if you ask me!

[Leila]

More coming up after the break. Greta is going to play more of her interview with the Pastor, Neil Schori, and it's all new - what wasn't aired last night.

[panthera]

Greta just reported it, saying she was getting a lot of emails from listeners saying that Brodsky was interviewed on another media and said that the pastor was involved in an affair with Stacy.

Greta asked Mark Fuhrman about this an he's very upset. He says the pastor is above reproach, and said that Brodsky brings shame to his profession. Greta says that if the report is true, it's actionable.
I knew it! I'd just posted on another thread here that DP probably believed the pastor was one of Stacy's boyfriends. I don't believe they were having an affair but this is just another tactic from DP to take the focus off himself as a suspect.

[nanandjim]

Greta just reported it, saying she was getting a lot of emails from listeners saying that Brodsky was interviewed on another media and said that the pastor was involved in an affair with Stacy.

Greta asked Mark Fuhrman about this an he's very upset. He says the pastor is above reproach, and said that Brodsky brings shame to his profession. Greta says that if the report is true, it's actionable.
This is unbelieveable. I'm sure Drew thought that Stacy was having an affair with anyone who glanced her way. To say such a thing about this pastor is absolutely unreal. Notice how every single person who has spoken out against Drew is unstable, has problems, can't be believed, is a nutcase, just wants attention, is lying, is delusional and had an affair with Stacy.

I hope that the pastor sues this lowlife.

[panthera]

This is all too far out to be believable! What's next? I don't even think the most creative mind can guess. How low can you get - implicating the pastor? Now, that's pretty creative! And desparate, if you ask me!
He is desperate! After all, what the pastor revealed in last night's interview connects DP to Kathleen's murder. The only thing DP and the lawyer can do now is trash the pastor.

[SuziQ]

Below is a recap of the Dan Abrams show, courtesy of Snicker at Courtvboards. Good job Snicker! I found this via a kind poster at Greta. So I'm reading what I'll post below, is Brodsky saying it's Neil's fault for not protecting Stacy from Drew? Did Brodsky just admit that Drew is guilty?

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=320755&perpage=40&pagenumber=11

Dan Abrams Update: http://boards.courttv.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
DA: DP needs your help. He is calling on his fellow Americans to give donations on a new website he put up today. It has since crashed, been taken down, who knows? The money will go to his legal defense, a PI, and then his kids. Well, DP may really need some help because his pastor is coming out to say that DP confessed to SP that he killed KS. (showing clip of pastor)
DA: You going to go after the man of the cloth now?
JB: This guy is a certified counsellor and a mandatory reporter. After SP tells him about this the pastor says "that's nice, go home and pray." This is what he's report for weeks now in several different media. It doesn't even make sense.
DA: Maybe it makes sense because clergy hear a lot of things and they need to consider the circumstances and what effect reporting might have. He may have wanted to help her resolve her issues first.
JB: He wanted to help her? When someone confesses to murder? He has an obligation to report. If I were SP's family I would be looking for an attorney to sue this pastor.
SF: This guy is a police sargeant, so who are they going to report it to? The police department where he works?
DA: This may be double hearsay. Any way to get it in?
JS: It is hearsay. There are two levels of hearsay, it's not getting in.
DA: If they can show that SP was gotten rid of to keep her from telling anyone else about DP's confession, it could come in.
JB: (stuttering), no, no. There are other issues too.
DA: I guess the money goes first to you, then to the PI, and then to the kids, so you get the bulk of the money.
JB: I consider the attorneys fees and the PI fees as co-equal. It's customary for attorneys and PIs to work together.
DA: DP's got no leads? Such that he might be able to find the woman he claims is alive. He's got to have some idea who his wife ran off with.
JB: We get sightings everyday.
DA: Not whacko sightings. I'm talking about real tangible leads.
JB: Well, we have the two Rosetto brothers, the nurses. And we've also heard that there have been rumors about this pastor and SP.
DA: What?! You're going to sit there and tell me that SP was having an affair with this pastor?
JB: That's not something I just made up. I've gotten several calls about the possibility that they had . . .
DA: We're not even going to continue taking about that. You just came on national tv and hinted that SP was having an affair with this pastor. We'll talk about that again when you have some proof of that allegation. That's just nonsense.
JB: I also just wanted to say again that the attorney fees and PI are co-equal.
DA: Thanks, we'll have you back again soon.

[curiositycat]

People give too much faith in confidentiality ethics and laws. They are not as air tight as people would like to believe. Believe me when I say I KNOW! At the very end of the interview with Greta, I think Schori explains pretty well why he's coming forward in the media. He want's other people that may have information to come forward and do the same thing even though it's tough. Also, by telling his story from his own mouth, prevents the media from making up stuff because he wasn't talking.
SQ...I agree 100%. There are some other people who know something and he was trying to get that point across. You hear a lot of bad things when you are counseling people. To hear that someone is married to a man who may of killed the woman before her, and is now coming to you for marriage counseling, you have to do what you have to do. Confidentiality ethics are broken every day FOR GOOD REASONS. IMHO this would have been a good time to break the code of ethics and do what is RIGHT for the person. We aren't talking about folks who disagree about the kids, or money. We are talking about MURDER!

About his lawyer.....he needs to fire him or bend over and REALLY kiss his butt goodbye.:twocents:

[cricket]

This is unbelieveable. I'm sure Drew thought that Stacy was having an affair with anyone who glanced her way. To say such a thing about this pastor is absolutely unreal. Notice how every single person who has spoken out against Drew is unstable, has problems, can't be believed, is a nutcase, just wants attention, is lying, is delusional and had an affair with Stacy.

I hope that the pastor sues this lowlife.


He should sue and I hope he does! Brodsky is awful. I don't usually agree with Michael Cardoza (on Greta) but he is right tonight - Brodsky is just clueless when it comes to handling the media and he is making things worse for his client.

Ah shucks, I just realized that DP probably gave him a big retainer and may not be able to get it back from Brodsky. Oh - poor Drew. (snark)

[Leila]

I"m just flabbergasted at Joel Brodsky. This guy is as low as his client. I hope the good pastor sues Brodsky, and Brodsky is disbarred. :furious:

[SuziQ]

Curiosity, you made me think about something. Could the pastor have thought that this was such an unbelievable tale between a married couple that were having problems? And didn't realize the truth of what Stacy said until she went missing? You are correct, pastors must hear bad things all the time. And you can imagine how true that is when a marriage is falling apart.

[Lisa Too]

He is desperate! After all, what the pastor revealed in last night's interview connects DP to Kathleen's murder. The only thing DP and the lawyer can do now is trash the pastor.

Why doesn't he just give it up? He just continues to make a bigger arse of himself all the time. How about showing some concern for the missing wife and the children?

[Tom'sGirl]

Curiosity, you made me think about something. Could the pastor have thought that this was such an unbelievable tale between a married couple that were having problems? [quote]And didn't realize the truth of what Stacy said until she went missing?
Very well could have been SQ!

[cricket]

Why doesn't he just give it up? He just continues to make a bigger arse of himself all the time. How about showing some concern for the missing wife and the children?

The pastor showed more concern for Stacy and her children's welfare than Drew or Brodsky have ever shown!

[SeekingJana]

Oh my goodness! According to the Naperville church letter which is posted, Neil Schori's wife Brandi, has just given birth to twin daughters.

Please pray for this man of God and his precious family to be safe from DP and all who are associated with DP.

Maria

[Tom'sGirl]

Pastor 'blown away' by Stacy's confession about Drew

December 11, 2007

~snip
Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed was the first to report in late November on the conversation between Stacy Peterson and Schori. In August, Stacy Peterson confided to Schori that her husband had claimed to have killed his previous wife, sources told the Sun-Times.

And earlier this month, the Sun-Times interviewed Schori, who acknowledged he'd spoken to Stacy Peterson in August.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/692058,CST-NWS-peterson11.article

[curiositycat]

Curiosity, you made me think about something. Could the pastor have thought that this was such an unbelievable tale between a married couple that were having problems? And didn't realize the truth of what Stacy said until she went missing? You are correct, pastors must hear bad things all the time. And you can imagine how true that is when a marriage is falling apart.
Well, that would make sense to me as to why he didn't say anything. He looks young and clean cut. Probably doesn't hear that sort-of thing everyday. LOL Maybe he did wonder at first if she was "exaggerating" things. He did say he was so stunned at first he didn't know what to think. I think you may be right.

[Camper]

I thought the pastor to be authentic, youthful and earnest but, PERHAPS IF SP was counseled to contact BBPD, and SP worried about the BBPD in cahoots with DP. An older and more experienced pastor would then have counseled her and gone with her to the Illinois Crime Bureau or the State DA, etc. He might also have asked for prayers from the congregation for her in a way not to betray her confidence, but to also set the gossiper watchers down.

Consider imop, in every church no matter how large or small you will always find a few choice members who watch, observe and make private judgements about other members and their specific behaviors or activities that they have observed.

Then from their own personal watching and observing, these watchers and observers often have a close friend with whom they share their watching and their observations and then come up with scenarios on what each of their watches and observations seem to indicate about such activities of fellow church members.

In a word it becomes gossip, it has been said that three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.

So IF DP'sA had phone calls about the minister and SP, then that would surely be hearsay. Something that a bonified attorney should not be found repeating to anyone MUCH LESS a MEDIA person.

Do you think DP'sA took name rank and serial numbers of the people who called HIM on the telephone? I am guessing NAH.

.

[SuziQ]

Drew Peterson’s legal defense fund
Dec. 11: Drew Peterson, suspected in the disappearance of his wife, needs your help and is calling on fellow Americans to help pay his legal bills. Dan Abrams speaks with Peterson’s attorney Joel B... (more) (http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19599749/&fg=&from=00&vid=a167fcdd-0700-45f2-bce2-1e4b3932dc5d&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:News_Comment%20-%20Analysis:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1#)

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=a167fcdd-0700-45f2-bce2-1e4b3932dc5d

[DeltaDawn]

I believe the pastor and I also believe he was given enough detail by Stacy that when he spoke with LE, along with info from others and the new autopsy report, that what he has to say will no longer be considered heresay but factual.

On Greta it appeared that what he was saying had tied into what others have said. Also remember that even Ric Mims had told Drew with Stacy gone he had no more alibi for Kathy's death and it sucked to be Drew.

Then co workers came forward about her bruises and beatings from Drew.
Enough people with the same facts and same story tranlates in the jury's eyes to truth when they hear it over and over again.

If we were on a jury now who would we believe...Drew who took the 5th, Brodsky the fool and big mouth..or several normal citizens that all tell the same story?

[Taximom]

I can't imagine being this young pastor hearing about the murder from Stacy, and then getting the voicemail from Drew when he returned from the meeting!! That would have freaked me out.

[browneyedgirl]

I believe that Stacy shared info with the pastor in Aug. because she already knew she was leaving DrewP. And I believe it is possible that she may have asked him not to report the info until she had gotten away from DrewP.
I also believe that she shared with the pastor for a reason. That reason being that if she ended up dead or missing, she wanted that info to come out. This was her way of insuring that.

That is what I was thinking exactly mysteriew. I believe that was her security and if DP did carry out previous threats he made to her, she wanted someone in a position to be believed by LE, if she tuned up having an "accident" and that's why she choose the pastor.

I'm sure she told others her dilema, but didn't now whether LE would viewthem as credible.

[mysteriew]

This is unbelieveable. I'm sure Drew thought that Stacy was having an affair with anyone who glanced her way. To say such a thing about this pastor is absolutely unreal. Notice how every single person who has spoken out against Drew is unstable, has problems, can't be believed, is a nutcase, just wants attention, is lying, is delusional and had an affair with Stacy.

I hope that the pastor sues this lowlife.

It's intimidation of potential witnesses. Everyone who steps forward gets trashed, so therefore a warning to others who are considering stepping forward with info, that they too will be trashed if they say anything.

But they have overdone it. When they trashed the pastor, they went too far and now no one will believe what Brodsky and DrewP have to say (of course not too many people gave them much credence anyway.)

[mysteriew]

That is what I was thinking exactly mysteriew. I believe that was her security and if DP did carry out previous threats he made to her, she wanted someone in a position to be believed by LE, if she tuned up having an "accident" and that's why she choose the pastor.

I'm sure she told others her dilema, but didn't now whether LE would viewthem as credible.

She doesn't seem to have told too much detail to family. She told them some things, but downplayed some of it and didn't give them details. Perhaps she didn't want to worry them in case she was able to get out ok. But it was important to her that someone knew.

[nanandjim]

It's intimidation of potential witnesses. Everyone who steps forward gets trashed, so therefore a warning to others who are considering stepping forward with info, that they too will be trashed if they say anything.

But they have overdone it. When they trashed the pastor, they went too far and now no one will believe what Brodsky and DrewP have to say (of course not too many people gave them much credence anyway.)
I never believed Brodsky from the beginning. He seemed like an incompetent nitwit, to me. Just listen to the talking heads (who I think are told to give the pros and the cons). They all say that he is an embarrassment to the legal profession.

[browneyedgirl]

She doesn't seem to have told too much detail to family. She told them some things, but downplayed some of it and didn't give them details. Perhaps she didn't want to worry them in case she was able to get out ok. But it was important to her that someone knew.

agreed. I believe that she was in fear of DP, but didn't allow her family to know the entire truth out of fear of their safety. Also, maybe Stacy didn't tell her family fearing that they would be the first people DP would suspect knowing, and therefore putting her loved ones in danger.
I believe she had alot on her plate with trying to live a "normal" life in front of others. I just widh she would have made it out safely.

[browneyedgirl]

I never believe Brodsky from the beginning. He seemed like an incompetent nitwit, to me. Just listen to the talking heads (who I think are told to give the pros and the cons). They all say that he is an embarrassment to the legal profession.

I agree with you, nanandjim. Brodsky is an embarrassment to law professionals everywhere.
The more Brodsky opens his mouth, the more ignorance comes from it. I can't wait for Nancy Grace to come back from maternity leave, she will chew him up and spit him out, worse that Greta's "brats":woohoo:

[SuziQ]

It's intimidation of potential witnesses. Everyone who steps forward gets trashed, so therefore a warning to others who are considering stepping forward with info, that they too will be trashed if they say anything.

But they have overdone it. When they trashed the pastor, they went too far and now no one will believe what Brodsky and DrewP have to say (of course not too many people gave them much credence anyway.)

I agree! I just posted in the JAB thread that I thought this might be a method to Brodsky's madness. Scary and yet could be very effective.

[mysteriew]

According to this article, the 'shot through the ceiling' did happen in Aug.! Below are snips from the article


...Cales said the gun incident happened in August.

...A minister who counseled Stacy said he met her at a coffee shop in August where Stacy blurted out to him that her husband admitted he killed Savio.

...Cales said that two weeks before Stacy went missing, she found her cell phone bill in Peterson's briefcase, with numbers highlighted and notes scribbled on it.

...Cales said Stacy immediately got a new number and had the bill sent to Cales' work.

"She said, 'I can't take this anymore,'" Cales said. Stacy's friends and family have said she told Peterson she wanted a divorce in the days leading up to her disappearance.

...Pam Bosco, a spokeswoman for Stacy's relatives, said she was not surprised by the appeal for money.

"The first thing that comes to my mind is that we must be hot on the trail for him to do something like this," Bosco said.

She dismissed the claim that the money would be used to hire a private investigator, saying Peterson had ample time to help look for his wife but chose not to do so.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_12dec12,0,4841682.story?coll=chi_about_cu stom_events_xpromo

[curiositycat]

I believe the pastor and I also believe he was given enough detail by Stacy that when he spoke with LE, along with info from others and the new autopsy report, that what he has to say will no longer be considered heresay but factual.

On Greta it appeared that what he was saying had tied into what others have said. Also remember that even Ric Mims had told Drew with Stacy gone he had no more alibi for Kathy's death and it sucked to be Drew.

Then co workers came forward about her bruises and beatings from Drew.
Enough people with the same facts and same story tranlates in the jury's eyes to truth when they hear it over and over again.

If we were on a jury now who would we believe...Drew who took the 5th, Brodsky the fool and big mouth..or several normal citizens that all tell the same story?

OK DD I believe him too, even though I don't like the way he handled it from a battered women's viewpoint. That being said my question is this...how will we ever know if the things he says Stacy told him were really coming from her mouth or from the autopsy results that Dr. Baden has described in detail? I pray he has some details that have not been made public but will be something that only the police are aware of.;)

[nanandjim]

I agree with you, nanandjim. Brodsky is an embarrassment to law professionals everywhere.
The more Brodsky opens his mouth, the more ignorance comes from it. I can't wait for Nancy Grace to come back from maternity leave, she will chew him up and spit him out, worse that Greta's "brats":woohoo:
I just love Bernie's wit and sense of humor. He's a great addition to her show. :)

[DeltaDawn]

From the article above it would seem that August was a huge turning point in Drew and Stacy's relationship. She meets with the pastor, she gets shot at by accident by Drew ( I wonder in what order those two events happened ) and I am sure she was telling him soon after she was prepared to leave.

Also the info on Stacy finding her cell phone bill highlighted and with notes on it is very telling. So she had proof that he was tracking everything that she did and who she spoke with..how frightened she must have been right before she was murdered.

[DeltaDawn]

OK DD I believe him too, even though I don't like the way he handled it from a battered women's viewpoint. That being said my question is this...how will we ever know if the things he says Stacy told him were really coming from her mouth or from the autopsy results that Dr. Baden has described in detail? I pray he has some details that have not been made public but will be something that only the police are aware of.;)

He was interviewed by the police fairly early on in the case, I believe, because he was to be on the GJ and then when they were told it was Kathy's case he had to be excused from that hearing due to prior knowledge. I would think that is the point at which he went to LE with everything he knew. Which would have been prior to the second and third autopsy reports. The public knew very little then but CC, Tom and now this pastor would have come forward..which I think propelled things forward.

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
I just got word that more of our interviews with Sgt Peterson’s fiance and Stacy’s Pastor will be posted here or on our ON THE RECORD show page in a couple of hours. Right now they are encoding them - whatever that means…you might want to watch these interviews on the web simply because we did not show complete interviews on out TV show (ON THE RECORD, ten pm eastern)….

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/12/note-4/

[Pocono Sleuther]

According to this article, the 'shot through the ceiling' did happen in Aug.! Below are snips from the article


...Cales said the gun incident happened in August.

...A minister who counseled Stacy said he met her at a coffee shop in August where Stacy blurted out to him that her husband admitted he killed Savio.

...Cales said that two weeks before Stacy went missing, she found her cell phone bill in Peterson's briefcase, with numbers highlighted and notes scribbled on it.

...Cales said Stacy immediately got a new number and had the bill sent to Cales' work.

"She said, 'I can't take this anymore,'" Cales said. Stacy's friends and family have said she told Peterson she wanted a divorce in the days leading up to her disappearance.

...Pam Bosco, a spokeswoman for Stacy's relatives, said she was not surprised by the appeal for money.

"The first thing that comes to my mind is that we must be hot on the trail for him to do something like this," Bosco said.

She dismissed the claim that the money would be used to hire a private investigator, saying Peterson had ample time to help look for his wife but chose not to do so.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_12dec12,0,4841682.story?coll=chi_about_cu stom_events_xpromo

First off, what a lunatic with the cell phone bill. He has some seriuos control issues. Second, I just KNEW there was something that pushed her to tell the pastor. I feel she had an inkling she wasn't going to make it out of this marriage alive. :( Yet she wanted to make sure there were credible people she had told her side to. As for his bid for donations...foohey. He's a damn loser and I can't imagine anyone handing him cash. Poor poor Drew. :boohoo: My only concern even remotely tied to him are the children.

[Wudge]

I believe the pastor and I also believe he was given enough detail by Stacy that when he spoke with LE, along with info from others and the new autopsy report, that what he has to say will no longer be considered heresay but factual.

On Greta it appeared that what he was saying had tied into what others have said. Also remember that even Ric Mims had told Drew with Stacy gone he had no more alibi for Kathy's death and it sucked to be Drew.

Then co workers came forward about her bruises and beatings from Drew.
Enough people with the same facts and same story tranlates in the jury's eyes to truth when they hear it over and over again.

If we were on a jury now who would we believe...Drew who took the 5th, Brodsky the fool and big mouth..or several normal citizens that all tell the same story?


Defendants have a Constitutional right to confrontation. How could DP confront twice removed hearsay?

[Leila]

Just some thoughts here........I'm intrigued by the pastor's comment that there's details that he doesn't feel comfortable sharing. He did say that much of what Stacy told him corroborates other known information. I'm trying to imagine how the conversation between the pastor and Stacy might have gone - this is just my speculation............

Stacy: "He did it."
Pastor: "Did what?"
Stacy: "He killed Kathleen"
Pastor: "Have you told the police?"
Stacy: "no, some of the Bolingbrook police are Drew's friends and helped cover up the murder. I don't know who can be trusted on the Bolingbrook PD."

We do know that Stacy and the pastor discussed the police department because the pastor did say that she hadn't told the police the truth when she was initially interviewed by them.

When you look at it from this perspective, the pastor came away from that meeting with Stacy knowing that Drew Peterson had killed his third wife, and that the local Bolingbrook police couldn't be trusted. Knowing that information, the pastor isn't going to go to the police with what he knows. If he contacted the wrong police officer, the information might go directly to Drew and could get Stacy killed. I can't fault him for not going to the police. He was hoping Stacy would successful get away from DP, and that DP would eventually be prosecuted.

[close_enough]

I'm thinking that she didn't want the pastor to say anything because she was Drew's alibi, and that would mean that she lied to the police during the initial interview after Kathleen's death- she would be in trouble as well.

that's what i'm thinking, & he held it over her head all this time.....good grief!!...was this while she was married to DP.....how soon after Kathleen's death did Stacy & DP get married???...nevermind, it doesn't matter now, ugh....

[close_enough]

I took some screen shots and posted them in PhotoThread of Pastor Neil Schori

wow, he looks really young!

[close_enough]

You would have gone to the BB police knowing that her husband is a cop on their force, that his third wife Kathleen had called them 18 times and was murdered by him, that his current wife was afraid of him, and when you get back to the office there is a voice mail from him saying he knows where you were and you just met with his wife?

Most importantly I believe she prefaced the whole meeting with the fact that this must remain confidential..it was a situation where he was damned if you and damned if you don't.

i think it's possible that Stacy went to the preacher because she truly felt DP might kill her some day soon, & she wanted this off her conscience...maybe?

[close_enough]

According to this article, the 'shot through the ceiling' did happen in Aug.! Below are snips from the article


...Cales said the gun incident happened in August.

...A minister who counseled Stacy said he met her at a coffee shop in August where Stacy blurted out to him that her husband admitted he killed Savio.

...Cales said that two weeks before Stacy went missing, she found her cell phone bill in Peterson's briefcase, with numbers highlighted and notes scribbled on it.

...Cales said Stacy immediately got a new number and had the bill sent to Cales' work.
"She said, 'I can't take this anymore,'" Cales said. Stacy's friends and family have said she told Peterson she wanted a divorce in the days leading up to her disappearance.

...Pam Bosco, a spokeswoman for Stacy's relatives, said she was not surprised by the appeal for money.

"The first thing that comes to my mind is that we must be hot on the trail for him to do something like this," Bosco said.

She dismissed the claim that the money would be used to hire a private investigator, saying Peterson had ample time to help look for his wife but chose not to do so.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_12dec12,0,4841682.story?coll=chi_about_cu stom_events_xpromo

gosh, how awful to live like this...wish she hadn't been so afraid of DP:(

eta...i have to keep reminding myself that Stacy was so young....bless her heart

[Tom'sGirl]

that's what i'm thinking, & he held it over her head all this time.....good grief!!...was this while she was married to DP.....[quote]how soon after Kathleen's death did Stacy & DP get married???.
The were already married when Kathleen died March 01, 2004, they had be married since Oct. 18, 2003

[i.b.nora]

The were already married when Kathleen died March 01, 2004, they had be married since Oct. 18, 2003
In late 2003, Will County Judge Susan O'Leary dissolved their marriage. Their divorce was "bifurcated," in this case meaning they were allowed to divorce before their common property was divided... Then in March 2004, a neighbor found Savio dead in the dry bathtub...

[mysteriew]

I thought they married a week or so after her death. Especially since, they were not fully divorced at the time of her death.

No, they married 8 days after the divorce was finalized with the property settlement still pending. I believe the property settlement was due to be finalized a few days after Kathleen died. Of course her death stopped that.

[Leila]

I thought they married a week or so after her death. Especially since, they were not fully divorced at the time of her death.

DP and Kathleen received a final decree in October with the understanding that the property settlement was still outstanding. This allowed the parties to re-marry and DP and Stacy were married on October 18, 2003.

So, Stacy was already married to DP at the time of Kathleen's death, and had been for about 4 and a 1/2 months. DP and Stacy already had a child - Anthony, who was about 10 months old at the time he parents married.

[i.b.nora]

You are right. I was editing (correcting) my post while you were posting.

[SuziQ]

by Greta Van Susteren
I am in NYC and, while I was en route, our staff called Drew Peterson’s lawyer Joel Brodsky (again) to see if he would join us. Instead his wife/assistant said the only statement Joel Brodsky would have is the one that he sent by text message to OTR Producer Steph Watts and invited us to read it on air. I will, but, I was willing to bury it thinking it was not serious and would make him look bad…that he wrote it when he was mad and not thinking (I have done that and more than once) ..but apparently Brodsky wants it read…so I will do it so that he does not cry foul. If he wants to call us and give us a substantive statement, I am receptive. If he wants us to read his text message, so be it. (more at link)

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/12/wellnot-exactly-substantive/

[SuziQ]

Part 3: Greta's raw interview with Stacy Peterson's pastor

http://tinyurl.com/2t9q38

[Littledeer]

This just breaks my heart. I wish the Pastor had been able to find Stacy a "safe" place to stay at, and then gone somewhere to report what she said.

I certainly understand that going to the BPD would not be a safe option as neither Stacy or the Pastor knew who were all of DP's friends.

Out of curiousity, does anyone know if he had gone to a neighboring Police Department if they would have acted on it???

[i.b.nora]

Apparently, according to some posters at findstacypeterson.com Steve Carcerano was on some TV show today "claiming on national TV that Stacy and the Pastor DID have an affair. Carcerano is claiming that it has been a rumor for a long time."
I don't know what show.
It was probably FoxNews, but I simply don't watch that network very often, except for Greta.

[Tom'sGirl]

I just looked up the location of the Westbrook Church which is located at 1175 Lily Cache Lane and it's only .85 miles from the Peterson home. I wonder if Stacy ever may have walked there for any counseling?

[i.b.nora]

It seems that the pastor did most of his meetings with parishoners at
Caribou Coffee which is located at 266 S Weber Rd Bolingbrook, IL 60490.

And, that IS where he met with Stacy. Its also right near the Krispy Kreme and the Starbucks.

Add that to your google map, it is very close as well.

[Taximom]

Apparently, according to some posters at findstacypeterson.com Steve Carcerano was on some TV show today "claiming on national TV that Stacy and the Pastor DID have an affair. Carcerano is claiming that it has been a rumor for a long time."
I don't know what show.
It was probably FoxNews, but I simply don't watch that network very often, except for Greta.

Where has Steve been lately?

Anyway, I'm sure this is just more "Drew says" crap that SC believes.

[Camper]

This just breaks my heart. I wish the Pastor had been able to find Stacy a "safe" place to stay at, and then gone somewhere to report what she said.

I certainly understand that going to the BPD would not be a safe option as neither Stacy or the Pastor knew who were all of DP's friends.

Out of curiousity, does anyone know if he had gone to a neighboring Police Department if they would have acted on it???



--->>>I posted earlier on this thread that I do believe he could go to the Illinois Bureau of Investigation (IBI), each state has one. Colorado is called CBI. As I understand they take over special investigations and are independed of local PD's. The Illinois State District Attorney could be helpful in a situation like the pastor found himself in. imop.

.

[Tom'sGirl]

Part 3: Greta's raw interview with Stacy Peterson's pastor
http://tinyurl.com/2t9q38
After listening to the above video Pastor Schori said Stacy had told DP that she was meeting with him that day. I wonder what reason Stacy told DP was the reason was for that meeting?

[close_enough]

The were already married when Kathleen died March 01, 2004, they had be married since Oct. 18, 2003

ok, thank you TG..

[mysteriew]

After listening to the above video Pastor Schori said Stacy had told DP that she was meeting with him that day. I wonder what reason Stacy told DP was the reason was for that meeting?

They had been getting marital counseling through the church. She may have told him she wanted to talk to him or he may even have asked to talk to them individually for at least one session.

[Tom'sGirl]

They had been getting marital counseling through the church. She may have told him she wanted to talk to him or he may even have asked to talk to them individually for at least one session.
I'm aware they both had sought counseling in the past, however Stacy requested the meeting, and, as per the Pastor in the video DP knew of the meeting.

[mysteriew]

Apparently, according to some posters at findstacypeterson.com Steve Carcerano was on some TV show today "claiming on national TV that Stacy and the Pastor DID have an affair. Carcerano is claiming that it has been a rumor for a long time."
I don't know what show.
It was probably FoxNews, but I simply don't watch that network very often, except for Greta.

It doesn't make sense. IF Stacy had been having an 'affair' with the pastor, why would they have met in a public place??? They were both married, and if word got back to the clergy, it would most definately have jepordized his position at the church.

This is more like DrewP confronting Rossoto at Denny's. Stacy had conversation with him and to DrewP that means they must be having an affair. The nurse, the pastor it doesn't matter. To DrewP, it was an affair.

[Tom'sGirl]

Apparently, according to some posters at findstacypeterson.com Steve Carcerano was on some TV show today "claiming on national TV that Stacy and the Pastor DID have an affair. Carcerano is claiming that it has been a rumor for a long time."
I don't know what show.
It was probably FoxNews, but I simply don't watch that network very often, except for Greta.
That poster posted the exact same thing at another Forum and it supposedly was said during John Gibson's time on the air this afternoon.

[DeltaDawn]

So if Stacy did say that she was meeting with the church counselor on that date and time..she was being above board with Drew. A woman having an affair would not have been. She was trying, it would seem to make sure that Drew knew of her every move through her, knowing that he was stalking her. She was reaching out out to the pastor as a lifeline, and letting Drew know where she was so he would not think something else was going on..she was trying to protect herself, while at the same time letting someone else know the grave danger she felt.
A woman having an affair does not tell her husband when and where she is meeting her lover. Drew's imagination got the better of him in this case, I believe.

[mysteriew]

Good point DD. She was trying to stand up for herself, but in both cases the pastor and Rossotto she told DrewP where she was going to be. She wasn't hiding who or where she was meeting.

[DeltaDawn]

Steve C is Drew's sounding board and bought and paid for by Drew..I believe. I wonder what money or miracle Drew bestowed on Steve in the past to make him the one and only friend to stick by Drew at this Point?

[Tom'sGirl]

Steve C is Drew's sounding board and bought and paid for by Drew..I believe. I wonder what money or miracle Drew bestowed on Steve in the past to make him the one and only friend to stick by Drew at this Point?
Gambling debts from what I recall wasn't it?

[Tom'sGirl]

So if Stacy did say that she was meeting with the church counselor on that date and time..she was being above board with Drew.
And never in his wildest dreams did he think on that day she would reveal what she did to the Pastor.

[close_enough]

hey TG...or anyone for that matter....can someone start a new thread specifically (sp) for Greta's show tonight???...it would be easier to discuss the show on one thread...imo, if that's ok?...or i can just start one...what do ya think?

[i.b.nora]

That poster posted the exact same thing at another Forum and it supposedly was said during John Gibson's time on the air this afternoon.
Thanks.
Tonight, on Nancy Grace, Brodsky said that he himself did NOT accuse the pastor on Dan Abrams, that he was just speculating.
What Brodsky did actually say on Dan Abrams was that it was just a rumor, but that he had gotten a couple of phone calls about it. And, that it needed to be investigated.

[close_enough]

this sounds like it's going to be interesting....

[Taximom]

...waiting on pins and needles here! I feel like I have chicken pox or something. :D Do you think she'll make us wait till half-way through the show?

[Tom'sGirl]

hey TG...or anyone for that matter....can someone start a new thread specifically (sp) for Greta's show tonight???...[quote]it would be easier to discuss the show on one thread...imo
I know it would be but we already have a transcript thread and I hate to start one just for tonights show, but if you want to go ahead.

[close_enough]

i'm hoping they'll do like they did with the Krispy Kreme 'story', where MF was on first with the info...

pins & needles here too...

[Tom'sGirl]

this sounds like it's going to be interesting....
Good girl c_e. If I read elsewhere anything I will post it here with the link.

[close_enough]

Good girl c_e. If I read elsewhere anything I will post it here with the link.

cool:)
....about 7 minutes till the show

[Tom'sGirl]

i'm hoping they'll do like they did with the Krispy Kreme 'story', where MF was on first with the info...

pins & needles here too...

I kind of thought maybe he would have spoken with Mary, Steve Caserano's neighbor. From what I found she still lives there in the same subdivision.

[close_enough]

[quote=close_enough;1848074]hey TG...or anyone for that matter....can someone start a new thread specifically (sp) for Greta's show tonight???...
I know it would be but we already have a transcript thread and I hate to start one just for tonights show, but if you want to go ahead.

yikes...i just saw this, TG...is it too late to delete my thread?

[Tom'sGirl]

[quote=Tom'sGirl;1848123]

yikes...i just saw this, TG...is it too late to delete my thread?

LOL, you can always contact either chicoliving (http://websleuths.com/forums/member.php?u=203), or WindChime (http://websleuths.com/forums/member.php?u=526) if you want to delete it.

[close_enough]

[quote=close_enough;1848134]

LOL, you can always contact either chicoliving (http://websleuths.com/forums/member.php?u=203), or WindChime (http://websleuths.com/forums/member.php?u=526) if you want to delete it.

i notified chico:)

[NascarMom]

Amazing discovery by Mark. If this plays out the way we hope, Stacy could end up implicating DP for Kathleens death! Wouldn't that be a slap in the face for Drew!

[Taximom]

They may be able to track the phone calls, but can they still track the movement via "pings" for those days? Would that help anyway? I can't remember where everyone was living back then. If they lived near each other, the pings might not indicate much for/against the case against him. The calls might! Yay!

I wonder if he was as tricky with his cell phone(s) back then as he is now.

Either way that is a great find by Mark, although I don't know how we would have seen that.

[mysteriew]

Did she read JAB's email?

[WindChime]

I so agree Mark Furman has been doing a awesome job in investigating into Stacy's missing case.I'm sure deep down JB and Drew hate the fact that Mark F is staying in the area and digging up everything that he can on Kathleens death and Stacy. I do believe Mark is so much more intelligent then Drew could ever dream of being.

[close_enough]

lol, i got sidetracked on gretawire....Mark Fuhrman rocks!!

[Taximom]

Did she read JAB's email?


Oh, yes, it read:

JAB through his wife: Tell Jerry Springer and her panel of 8th graders that her circus will have to go on without me.

Neil Schori's statement about JAB's statement:
The libelous accusations made by Mr Brodsky are completely unfounded. It would be wise for Mr. Brodsky to immediately retract his statement and cease further slanderous comments.

Bernie Grimm was the only one on Greta's panel that apologized for making personal potshots at JAB on last night's show.

[close_enough]

Did she read JAB's email?

LOL, yes.....Brodsky called Greta's show "the Jerry Springer show"...:p
real childish stuff...like her panel is a bunch of 8th graders..lol, something along that line...very short & to the point..

[close_enough]

Oh, yes, it read:

JAB through his wife: Tell Jerry Springer and her panel of 8th graders that her circus will have to go on without me.
Neil Schori's statement about JAB's statement:
The libelous accusations made by Mr Brodsky are completely unfounded. It would be wise for Mr. Brodsky to immediately retract his statement and cease further slanderous comments.

Bernie Grimm was the only one on Greta's panel that apologized for making personal potshots at JAB on last night's show.

yeah, that was it!

& weird about Bernie...although he's the 'voice of reason' a lot of the time...well, imo.....

eta...i missed Greta last night...didn't catch it..wished i had

[close_enough]

They may be able to track the phone calls, but can they still track the movement via "pings" for those days? Would that help anyway? I can't remember where everyone was living back then. If they lived near each other, the pings might not indicate much for/against the case against him. The calls might! Yay!

I wonder if he was as tricky with his cell phone(s) back then as he is now.

Either way that is a great find by Mark, although I don't know how we would have seen that.

i know, i was thinking the same thing...heck, we didn't know anything about Stacy telling the preacher all this stuff, until now:confused:

eta....i'd say he was as tricky then as he is now...jmo

[mysteriew]

LOL, very "professional" of him. He sounds like a schoolkid: I'm mad at you and I'm not gonna play with you no more :razz:

He needs to grow up and figure out that the professional way to act is to keep his mouth shut unless he can back up his statements with evidence.

IMO- incompetent. (LOL, I'm not a "professional" so I can say it)

[close_enough]

:laugh:

LOL, very "professional" of him. He sounds like a schoolkid: I'm mad at you and I'm not gonna play with you no more :razz:

He needs to grow up and figure out that the professional way to act is to keep his mouth shut unless he can back up his statements with evidence.

IMO- incompetent. (LOL, I'm not a "professional" so I can say it)

LOL, yes he does!.....wild

[close_enough]

so, as far as the timing goes, Stacy DID know about Kathleen's murder from the beginning..well, the day after Kathleen was killed....gosh i need to read all those transcripts of Greta's interview w/the preacher....

[close_enough]

i read last night's transcript with the preacher..thanks SieSie...

this whole case is absolutely crazy....just unbelievable, some of the stuff....i wish they could find Stacy's body:(

[cricket]

so, as far as the timing goes, Stacy DID know about Kathleen's murder from the beginning..well, the day after Kathleen was killed....gosh i need to read all those transcripts of Greta's interview w/the preacher....

I was unclear on that so I just finished listening to Greta's interview with the pastor - all three parts of it. Yes - she did know from the beginning - at least the next day. What we don't know is if the police interviewed her alone, or was Drew in the room when they spoke to her? I can see someone that young being very scared and intimidated. It just sounds so much like LE did not really investigate Kathleen's death - that they either purposely let him get away with it - or they simply gave him the benefit of the doubt.

IMO it seems like there had to be knowledge and collusion on the part of at least some of LE at the time. The fact that they never followed up and got the phone records and the fact that one of the people on the grand jury was LE and a friend of DP is just too coincidental.

After watching all three parts of the pastor's interview - I do believe he is telling the truth. He may be young and somewhat inexperienced, but he comes across as sincere. His facial expressions are strange at times - he smiles awkwardly at times, and his jaw seems a little stiff, almost like he has had jaw surgery. But, his emotions and his concern for Stacy seem appropriate. He talks about how much she loved her children and that he didn't think she would have ever left them. He talks about how there are 4 children who are without their mother and he pleads for anyone who may have information to come forward. His words seem sincere; his concern seems sincere. When I listen to him - it reminds me that DP has not said anything like that. Drew has not said anything that shows me he has any concern for Stacy or for the fact that four of his children are missing their mom. I haven't heard Drew say one thing about how wonderful a mother Stacy was - and yet, everyone who knows her who has spoken about her - it's the first thing they say about her.

The only thing that seemed strange to me about the pastor was that he has been at (I think he said) 3 churches in the last 3 years. Greta did not ask him why. At least one of the moves seems like it was for a better position - he's doing sermons at his current church and he said at his previous church he wasn't senior enough to be doing many sermons.

[SuziQ]

Oh, yes, it read:

JAB through his wife: Tell Jerry Springer and her panel of 8th graders that her circus will have to go on without me.

Neil Schori's statement about JAB's statement:
The libelous accusations made by Mr Brodsky are completely unfounded. It would be wise for Mr. Brodsky to immediately retract his statement and cease further slanderous comments.

Bernie Grimm was the only one on Greta's panel that apologized for making personal potshots at JAB on last night's show.

And this is coming from two people who live a Jerry Springer life. Their divorce and seperation was so bad that court records state that it caused the hospitalization of their child!!! I'm still trying to find that document, it's in one of the threads. If someone finds it, let me know.

[Taximom]

Yes, SuziQ! They would certainly understand the Jerry Springer mindset as well as that of an 8th grader. :D

I saw that in the document too. I wondered if it was something physical to the child, or just stress? Weird.

[SuziQ]

Yes, SuziQ! They would certainly understand the Jerry Springer mindset as well as that of an 8th grader. :D

I saw that in the document too. I wondered if it was something physical to the child, or just stress? Weird.

And let's not forget the "misunderstanding" that involved a swat team responding to a suicidal Brodsky armed with a shotgun. And stealing, er helping a client. Seriously, has this crap happened to any of you? I haven't lived a squeaky clean life and at times my life has been quite wild. And I can honestly say I have NEVER had the SWAT team at my house, lost my job for fraud and stealing, or had my child hospitalized because of my behavior. They are no better than the drunk couples fighting on COPS.

[Taximom]

This would have made a GREAT episode of "Cheaters".

[Taximom]

Here ya go, Suzi:
From Mysteriew:

http://www.ilnb.uscourts.gov/JudgeSq...s/99a00069.pdf (http://www.ilnb.uscourts.gov/JudgeSquires/Opinions/99a00069.pdf)

[SuziQ]

Here ya go, Suzi:
From Mysteriew:

http://www.ilnb.uscourts.gov/JudgeSq...s/99a00069.pdf

Thank you! I had to read it again. Yep, Brodsky and his wife are real classy people. I certainly hope that DFS checked out him and his wife. Neither one should be parents, IMO.

[philamena]

And let's not forget the "misunderstanding" that involved a swat team responding to a suicidal Brodsky armed with a shotgun. And stealing, er helping a client. Seriously, has this crap happened to any of you? I haven't lived a squeaky clean life and at times my life has been quite wild. And I can honestly say I have NEVER had the SWAT team at my house, lost my job for fraud and stealing, or had my child hospitalized because of my behavior. They are no better than the drunk couples fighting on COPS.

You said it SuziQ. :doh:
Hopefully these 2 will be investigated by CPS.

[Camper]

And let's not forget the "misunderstanding" that involved a swat team responding to a suicidal Brodsky armed with a shotgun. And stealing, er helping a client. Seriously, has this crap happened to any of you? I haven't lived a squeaky clean life and at times my life has been quite wild. And I can honestly say I have NEVER had the SWAT team at my house, lost my job for fraud and stealing, or had my child hospitalized because of my behavior. They are no better than the drunk couples fighting on COPS.



--->>>Warning humor coming ->Wonder IF he still has the shotgun? Or did his first wife get it in the divorce settlement?

.

[SuziQ]

--->>>Warning humor coming ->Wonder IF he still has the shotgun? Or did his first wife get it in the divorce settlement?

.

Lol, or how long did LE hang on to it? Brodsky is a poster boy as to why some people shouldn't own guns.

[fran]

LOL, yes.....Brodsky called Greta's show "the Jerry Springer show"...:p
real childish stuff...like her panel is a bunch of 8th graders..lol, something along that line...very short & to the point..

IMO, the reason he chickened out of going on Greta was he wouldn't be able to get away with back peddling on his comment about the alleged phone calls that the minister and Stacy were having an affair.

Last night on NG, he danced around it saying something to the effect that her relationship with the minister is one of the things they need to pay a PI to investigate. Of course, I guess he forgot to talk to his client beforehand, because at the same time Brodsky is on NG saying this, his client DP is talking to Abrams on the phone, doing the same thing Brodsky did the night before, allude to the fact that Stacy was having an affair with the minister.:doh:

JMHO
fran

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/12/ng.01.html

LALAMA: OK. All right. So at this point we just don`t know. I`m sure that authorities have checked out every possibility. Now we have to go to an issue, Mr. Brodsky, you created quite the firestorm yesterday when you implied, some say, that the minister who came forward to say that Drew killed Kathleen was having an affair.

Now let me just tell you, because I want to be a fair journalist, I have the transcripts from your appearance on some other network. And it says you said, OK -- well, the questioner says, "you`re now accusing the pastor of having a relationship with Stacy." You say, "I have heard today, I have gotten several calls." The questioner goes, "oh, come on," but you actually say, "I don`t think there`s any validity to it."

And I think a lot of people have, in fairness to you, have avoided the fact, I`m not going to accuse them of doing it deliberately, but I just didn`t hear a lot of you saying, there`s no validity. Where do you stand on this issue? Do you think she had an affair with the minister or not?

BRODSKY: All I really said was in response to a question about what leads, if we hired an investigator, would they follow? And my response was, obviously, the Rosato (ph) brothers and the one that was exchanging those racy text messages. And I also said that given the minister`s story had some holes in the way it was presented, that he was reluctant to talk, that it was Mark Fuhrman that got him to talk, I thought that he -- you know, he should be checked out. That`s all I was saying, and that`s what a thorough -- that`s what a defense lawyer does, you know, we check out all leads, we check out all possibilities, we leave no stone unturned.

[kpass]

:laugh: "Every time she went to see him, she was all dolled up, all sexied up," Drew Peterson said of Stacy Peterson's visits to pastor Neil Schori. "All I know for sure is, Stacy had a big crush on him."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/695043,CST-NWS-boling13.article

Can you believe this guy?!? :loser: :banghead: :sick: :furious: :behindbar :liar: :slap:

[fran]

:laugh: "Every time she went to see him, she was all dolled up, all sexied up," Drew Peterson said of Stacy Peterson's visits to pastor Neil Schori. "All I know for sure is, Stacy had a big crush on him."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/695043,CST-NWS-boling13.article

Can you believe this guy?!? :loser: :banghead: :sick: :furious: :behindbar :liar: :slap:

IMO, I wonder if this is some type of idea he has to poison the jury pool. I mean, with the cra* that's been coming out of his mouth, he's already probably alienated every woman in the U.S. with 1/2 a brain.:rolleyes:

What a dufus!:bang:

fran

[indallas2]

:laugh: "Every time she went to see him, she was all dolled up, all sexied up," Drew Peterson said of Stacy Peterson's visits to pastor Neil Schori. "All I know for sure is, Stacy had a big crush on him."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/695043,CST-NWS-boling13.article

Can you believe this guy?!? :loser: :banghead: :sick: :furious: :behindbar :liar: :slap:

What a loser!!! DP sure has a story/explanation for everything that comes up. :doh: :behindbar

[robthomaseyes]

Notice how every woman Drew has ever been around is a whore. All of his wives and exes have been strippers, had affairs, got dolled up for pastors, left him for other men, had unspeakable pasts, incest, what have you. I think Drew is a sex addicted pervert who has no respect for women and considers them all disposable "whores". I truly worry about his having access to his daughter, in light of the fact that right now he has no sexual outlet via a girlfriend, with all the spotlight.

[lorann]

He is a pig! This minister is a cutie, she may have had what Drew (the old paunchy crud) thought was a crush. What she probably felt was admiration for a young man of the cloth, a family man, one who knew how to treat his wife. He can't fathom her inability to keep the secret about him being a murderer any longer - because he hasn't the ability to feel anything but hate for those who don't worship him.

[curiositycat]

Notice how every woman Drew has ever been around is a whore. All of his wives and exes have been strippers, had affairs, got dolled up for pastors, left him for other men, had unspeakable pasts, incest, what have you. I think Drew is a sex addicted pervert who has no respect for women and considers them all disposable "whores". I truly worry about his having access to his daughter, in light of the fact that right now he has no sexual outlet via a girlfriend, with all the spotlight.

I am worried for his daughter too. I am more concerned about her growing up with low self esteem surrounded by men like all her brothers who have seen and heard slander against mother figures. Men who abuse women raise sons who abuse women.

Two words you missed in your description of Drew...Narcissitic, Sociopath.

[robthomaseyes]

Very good point, curiositycat. Drew is obviously a misogynist; God only knows how he's raising his sons. It's a boys' club at that house - 3 boys, one girl, and Drew has two other sons. I guarantee that girl is going to be treated differently. And I don't mean differently in a GOOD way.

I just hope it isn't too late for the sons; some boys can rise above it and realize their father is wrong for treating women like that.

[cricket]

It just amazes me how DP and his attorney keep sliming everyone. I don't know about this pastor, but I think that most churches have rules that the ministors/pastors follow when it comes to counseling meetings with the opposite sex. Meaning that they would meet in a public place or where there are other people around.

I had never thought of it before until I had an emergency and called one of my ministers at his home at 11 PM: 1) he didn't rush over to my house (I'm divorced w/kids) without asking a lot of questions first, and 2) when he did show up - one of the other ministers was about 2 minutes behind him. It had never occurred to me - but they have to be careful - if they were dealing with someone who is unbalanced - the person could make untruthful accusations which could jeopardize their careers and the church.

[SuziQ]

It just amazes me how DP and his attorney keep sliming everyone. I don't know about this pastor, but I think that most churches have rules that the ministors/pastors follow when it comes to counseling meetings with the opposite sex. Meaning that they would meet in a public place or where there are other people around.

I had never thought of it before until I had an emergency and called one of my ministers at his home at 11 PM: 1) he didn't rush over to my house (I'm divorced w/kids) without asking a lot of questions first, and 2) when he did show up - one of the other ministers was about 2 minutes behind him. It had never occurred to me - but they have to be careful - if they were dealing with someone who is unbalanced - the person could make untruthful accusations which could jeopardize their careers and the church.

Men who are counselors, missionaries, etc., in the LDS church are not allowed to call on women (non-family)who are alone in their home or anywhere else. I found that out when missionaries came to visit my daughter and she was upset about something that happened to her that day. It was just her and I at home and they wouldn't step one foot in my front door. So they gave her a blessing in the doorway.

[mysteriew]

:laugh: "Every time she went to see him, she was all dolled up, all sexied up," Drew Peterson said of Stacy Peterson's visits to pastor Neil Schori. "All I know for sure is, Stacy had a big crush on him."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/695043,CST-NWS-boling13.article

Can you believe this guy?!? :loser: :banghead: :sick: :furious: :behindbar :liar: :slap:

LOL, how many women don't dress up a little more when they know they will be meeting their pastor?

You associate the pastor with church. You dress up more for church. So unless you are really good friends with the pastor, you dress for the pastor somewhat like you would for church.

[mysteriew]

Peterson said he had no knowledge of his wife carrying on romantically with Schori, a subject broached by his attorney, Joel Brodsky, during a Tuesday night interview on MSNBC.
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/694802,4_1_JO13_PETERSON_S1.article

[panthera]

:laugh: "Every time she went to see him, she was all dolled up, all sexied up," Drew Peterson said of Stacy Peterson's visits to pastor Neil Schori. "All I know for sure is, Stacy had a big crush on him."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/695043,CST-NWS-boling13.article

Can you believe this guy?!? :loser: :banghead: :sick: :furious: :behindbar :slap:
He has an answer for everything, doesn't he? :liar:

[i.b.nora]

On Nancy Grace show tonight, Steve Carcerano claimed that Stacy had gone to visit the pastor
on her motorcycle wearing a bikini top.
He said she used to ride around the neighborhood like that and that she had stopped by his house once
while on her bike with her bikini top and talked with him for awhile.

[Schmerty_Jones]

On Nancy Grace show tonight, Steve Carcerano claimed that Stacy had gone to visit the pastor
on her motorcycle wearing a bikini top.
He said she used to ride around the neighborhood like that and that she had stopped by his house once
while on her bike with her bikini top and talked with him for awhile.

I hope she was wearing a bikini which consist of a top & a bottom. They keep saying a bikini TOP!!!!!:eek: These men DrewP Carcerano & Brodsky ,their remarks make me :sick: :sick: Bunch of:loser: :loser: :loser:

[panthera]

On Nancy Grace show tonight, Steve Carcerano claimed that Stacy had gone to visit the pastor
on her motorcycle wearing a bikini top.
He said she used to ride around the neighborhood like that and that she had stopped by his house once
while on her bike with her bikini top and talked with him for awhile.
I wonder if that's the same one DP says she took with her to Jamaica??? :rolleyes: Now, if any of this story is true, then it would explain DP's comment.

[tagalong]

Sounds like a good way to get a suntan to me. Oh, to be young again!

[Tom'sGirl]

I wonder if that's the same one DP says she took with her to Jamaica??? :rolleyes: Now, if any of this story is true, then it would explain DP's comment.
If the story is true Sharon would know as she would more than likely been the one watching the two youngest children if DP wasn't home when these rides occurred.

[chicoliving]

On Nancy Grace show tonight, Steve Carcerano claimed that Stacy had gone to visit the pastor
on her motorcycle wearing a bikini top.
He said she used to ride around the neighborhood like that and that she had stopped by his house once
while on her bike with her bikini top and talked with him for awhile.

I see nothing odd about this and I bet good ole Steve C didn't think so at the time either.

[mysteriew]

I spent most of last summer in the yard in a bathing suit and I don't have a pool. And I am a lot older than Stacy and I am not looking for a man! So what is Steve's point?

[philamena]

On Nancy Grace show tonight, Steve Carcerano claimed that Stacy had gone to visit the pastor
on her motorcycle wearing a bikini top.
He said she used to ride around the neighborhood like that and that she had stopped by his house once
while on her bike with her bikini top and talked with