Timelines

[golfmom]

Compiled by LITTLEDEER


My recap of presser is long: Skip over if not interested.

This is what I have from my hastily written notes during the press conference. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE NOT FACTS. Only what I scribbled and I am not PERFECT. Question marks are because I did not hear specifically and will not make a guess on what was said.
If there is anything GLARING WRONG, PLEASE PLEASE CORRECT!!! Also, add what I didn't catch!
This looks real nice here in my WordPad, but it will probably come out all scrambled once I copy to WS. so sorry!!!!

March 26 and April 11: Two Sexual Assaults (I have 5/26 written down as the second date?) The first ones are from a poster.

May 11: Chief Officer notified...Went to UAA (Forgot what this acronym stands for)

Date (?): Medical Exam done on Maria
No Rape Kit
Pregnancy Test: Negative

May 11: Rape Investigation Opened

May 12: WMPO Written: Leauran to have no contact with Maria: 1,000 feet away
Maria Reassigned Across Base
Supposedly still interact daily: But no signs of force or threats known or seen

May 18: Cesar Denies Rape Allegation

May 24: 2nd WMPO Written

May 18 to June 24: Maria on Leave in Ohio
Comes back on base June 25th: Exhibits no sign of anxiety, etc.

June 25: 3rd WMPO Written: Effective until 9/24

June 27: Maria seeks Medical Test, Tests positive for pregnancy. Estimated time of conception 5/14/07

July 11 to July 26 - Cesar on Leave
Comes back on base: No indication of contact between him and Maria

September 17 (?) Maria request off base housing

September 20: 4th WMPO Written: Effective until 12/23

Officers (NCIS, JAG) ? developing Case

September 26 to October 2 - Maria on Leave

October 18: Maria told DNA needed from baby

October 22: New Services for Prosecutor to review
Article 22: Can have witnesses, questions, etc.

October 23: ?????

October 31: Maria's request to move off base approved

November 5: Maria moves: Rent's from Durham

November 4 to November 13: Leave - LA? Possibly talking about Durham????

November 26: Maria shows for Doctor's Appointment

December 14: Cesar reports to duty (Not at x-mas party) Not mandatory to show
Durham finds note from Maria: I'm going away.......finds items missing (clothes, personal items, and car)
Durham calls Maria's sister and also talks to Maria's mother
Supposedly Command is not notified until December 27 (about what??)

December 18: Maria's mother notified

December 19: LE in Ohio contact Military and Sheriff's Office about Maria being Missing

December 20: Durham notifies Commander he is leaving on December 27 to CA for duty

December 21: Holiday on Base (?)

December 24: $400 withdrawn from Maria's account (some heard $700)

December 26: Maria doesn't show for Doctor's Appointment

December 27: Base calls Mom: She states no contact with Maria

December 28: Maria's belongings are taken from Durhams Home

January 2: ????

January 3: Inventory taken of Maria's belongings and reinventoried

January 4: Marines request 10 day letter (?) Want additional information from Mother when Maria called her

January 7: Maria's Mother and Uncle show up on Base: 1st indication of Foul Play by Marines

January 8: 5th WMPO written: Effective until March 28, 2008

January 9: Laurean @ Sheriff's Office with Attorneys (?): No Miranda Rights given
On phone with Commanding Officer (?) possibly Laurean requesting leave which was approved

January 10: Laurean calls for leave: To meet with attorneys - Approved
Asks for leave for January 11 to meet with Attorneys: Approved: To call In on Friday in AM

January 11: Laurean doesn't call in. Fails to report to Work. Reported UA

[close_enough]

i know this article is posted on the media links thread, but i think it's fitting for this one also.....timeline, per the military with exact dates....

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

& thanks for starting this, golfmom:)

[Seven]

I got this from the LeJeune presser timeline (thanks again, Close)

"On Friday, December 14, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach reported to work as normal. The work day ended at 12 noon as the command was having a Christmas party. Attendance was not mandatory and LCpl Lauterbach elected not to attend. ...

. . . when Sgt Durham arrives home from work, he finds a note left for him by LCpl Lauterbach stating, “I could not take this Marine Corps life anymore. So I am going away. Sorry for the inconvenience. Maria.” Sgt Durham notices that some of her personal items are missing. She does not leave the house key behind. Sgt Durham calls LCpl Lauterbach’s sister concerning the note. Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA.”

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

* Since the work day ended at 12, I wonder what time Durham got home and read the note? IOW, how much time elapsed between the time Maria left work and Durham found the note she supposedly wrote?

* Does anyone know what the sister supposedly said?

* Maria had just moved into the house with Durham on 11/05 ...... and by 12/14 Durham knows enough about her "personal items" to know some of them are missing?

* Why did Durham give official "UA" notice via text message within such a short time of reading the note? I mean, wouldnt most people be more likely to wait a day or so to see whether she would call or change her mind come back? Why get her in trouble on 12/14 when she wasn't due back on base until Monday 12/17? Is this the way Marines normally treat each other?

[close_enough]

I got this from the LeJeune presser timeline (thanks again, Close)

"On Friday, December 14, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach reported to work as normal. The work day ended at 12 noon as the command was having a Christmas party. Attendance was not mandatory and LCpl Lauterbach elected not to attend. ...

. . . when Sgt Durham arrives home from work, he finds a note left for him by LCpl Lauterbach stating, “I could not take this Marine Corps life anymore. So I am going away. Sorry for the inconvenience. Maria.” Sgt Durham notices that some of her personal items are missing. She does not leave the house key behind. Sgt Durham calls LCpl Lauterbach’s sister concerning the note. Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA.”

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

* Since the work day ended at 12, I wonder what time Durham got home and read the note? IOW, how much time elapsed between the time Maria left work and Durham found the note she supposedly wrote?

* Does anyone know what the sister supposedly said?

* Maria had just moved into the house with Durham on 11/05 ...... and by 12/14 Durham knows enough about her "personal items" to know some of them are missing?

i guess maybe after reading the note, he started looking around...might have noticed her toiletries gone (shampoo, make-up, deodorant etc...) .... checked the closet/drawers & clothes were gone....that's how i picture it anyway.....

[close_enough]

but WAIT!!....ok, Durham said Maria didn't leave the house key there....SO, is it possible that Cesar DID go into the home on the 14th, throw some things together in a bag, write a fake note from Maria?????....gosh, if she got off at noon, he'd been a busy boy if this is the case.....

nawww, i still tend to think that she purchased the bus ticket the next day (the 15th).....course that would mean she'd have stayed somewhere the night of the 14th....i'm surprised that if this is the case, no one's come out to say she stayed at their hotel/motel.......

LOL, i'm going in circles....

[Seven]

i guess maybe after reading the note, he started looking around...might have noticed her toiletries gone (shampoo, make-up, deodorant etc...) .... checked the closet/drawers & clothes were gone....that's how i picture it anyway.....

It's true we can fill in the gaps using our imagining all sorts of reasonable scenarios, but is that the way marines usually treat each other?

I mean, a "UA" is a serious thing, isn't it?
Why would he do a text message tattle so precipitously?

That note was extremely flimsy on details. It wouldnt convince me that someone wasn't actually coming back.
She could have been going to a hotel for the weekend.

If someone is planning to go away for good, thery would have taken more than some toiletries ...... and how would he know what she usually kept in her drawers? Something isnt adding up about Durham.

[close_enough]

It's true we can fill in the gaps using our imagining all sorts of reasonable scenarios, but is that the way marines usually treat each other?
I mean, a "UA" is a serious thing, isn't it?
Why would he do a text message tattle so precipitously?

That note was extremely flimsy on details. It wouldnt convince me that someone wasn't actually coming back.
She could have been going to a hotel for the weekend.

i have no idea, Seven.....i just tend to think that when it all comes down, marines are human beings too.....maybe since the letter stated that she was tired of/couldn't handle marine life anymore, he just assumed???....i really don't know....maybe it's common to do lots of texting???:waitasec: ....lol, one WOULD think he'd deliver this kind of info in person to one of Maria's superiors....not sure why he text'd the sister instead of simply calling her....maybe she didn't answer the phone....i must assume that Durham knew the sister was a person to notify if there was a problem with Maria....

i just don't know...

[close_enough]

It's true we can fill in the gaps using our imagining all sorts of reasonable scenarios, but is that the way marines usually treat each other?

I mean, a "UA" is a serious thing, isn't it?
Why would he do a text message tattle so precipitously?

That note was extremely flimsy on details. It wouldnt convince me that someone wasn't actually coming back.
She could have been going to a hotel for the weekend.

If someone is planning to go away for good, thery would have taken more than some toiletries ...... and how would he know what she usually kept in her drawers? Something isnt adding up about Durham.

hmmmm, well if i was packing up to leave (like for a very long stay, or forever) there would be some empty drawers & big gap in my closet where clothes hang....my sock & underwear drawer would be left to nothing.....

just speculating....i'm curious about Sgt Durham also, though...

[Littledeer]

Just want to catch you before this turns into a posting area. It should only be for timelines.

Please put over at the Missing 8 mos. Pregnant thread or at Christina's Impossible Involvement Thread.

Or start a thread Titled Timelines: For Discussion

[close_enough]

but it doesn't say "no discussion":confused: :crazy:

[close_enough]

Thanks, LD. Now we should probably go back and delete our OT posts on this one.

well that's silly, ...why can't this be a thread for discussing timelines????

start a new thread for timelines "no discussion"....why have us move all the posts here?

[Seven]

i have no idea, Seven.....i just tend to think that when it all comes down, marines are human beings too.....maybe since the letter stated that she was tired of/couldn't handle marine life anymore, he just assumed???....i really don't know....maybe it's common to do lots of texting???:waitasec: ....lol, one WOULD think he'd deliver this kind of info in person to one of Maria's superiors....not sure why he text'd the sister instead of simply calling her....maybe she didn't answer the phone....i must assume that Durham knew the sister was a person to notify if there was a problem with Maria....

i just don't know...

That's okay, CE ....... I was just testing to see if I could find any holes in the explanation.

I wasn't talking about texting the sister. I was talking about this line: "Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA."

As soon as he got through talking on the phone to first the sister and then the mother, he sent a text message to Maria's workplace, telling them he BELIEVED she was leaving in an unauthorized manner.

Wouldn't most people have given it a few hours or maybe even the weekend before making such a serious notification of an illegal activity that had not even occurred yet? She was not going to be "UA" until Monday, 12/17 .... and Durham knew that.

anyway .... sun coming up .... gotta catch a few winks.

This one's got me spinning.

[SeriouslySearching]

If you will go look at other forums and notice the timeline threads are there for a reason. It is to compile them for future reference. If they are mixed in with a bunch of posts...it takes too long...which is the VERY reason we have timeline no discussion threads! CONVENIENCE!

[close_enough]

If you will go look at other forums and notice the timeline threads are there for a reason. It is to compile them for future reference. If they are mixed in with a bunch of posts...it takes too long...which is the VERY reason we have timeline no discussion threads! CONVENIENCE!

i started a thread for "no discussion" timeline :)

[SeriouslySearching]

i started a thread for "no discussion" timeline :)Great! Would you please move all of the timelines we have already posted and outlined over there as they are here?

[Seven]

The DISCUSSION thread DOES say discussion tho. HINT HINT

which discussion thread?

aren't all threads for discussion unless otherwise specified?

[close_enough]

That's okay, CE ....... I was just testing to see if I could find any holes in the explanation.

I wasn't talking about texting the sister. I was talking about this line: "Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA."

As soon as he got through talking on the phone to first the sister and then the mother, he sent a text message to Maria's workplace, telling them he BELIEVED she was leaving in an unauthorized manner.

Wouldn't most people have given it a few hours or maybe even the weekend before making such a serious notification of an illegal activity that had not even occurred yet? She was not going to be "UA" until Monday, 12/17 .... and Durham knew that.
anyway .... sun coming up .... gotta catch a few winks.

This one's got me spinning.

good point, Seven.....

spinning here also.....

[golfmom]

:banghead:

LOL, I think it's great that we have a thread for discussing timeline issues and a static timeline thread for reference.

There's just so much information to cover in the timeline. One thing I've noticed is that although the dates seem solid, the spin put on them by the Corps feels totally like CYA. Everything is prefaced by ... we didn't know until blah blah blah ... sounds like they were sticking their fingers in their ears going lalalalalalala to not know a bunch of this stuff.

[SeriouslySearching]

Not a bad thing at all, Golfmom! : ) Just a matter of respecting people who put timelines together for the purpose of quick reference is all, imo. I moved Little Deer's over to the new thread. She seemed concerned it would be lost in the shuffle as was I. It is much easier to go back to fact find much like the media threads.

Thanks for starting a Timeline No Discussion thread, Close. : )

[golfmom]

Not a bad thing at all, Golfmom! : ) Just a matter of respecting people who put timelines together for the purpose of quick reference is all, imo. I moved Little Deer's over to the new thread. She seemed concerned it would be lost in the shuffle as was I. It is much easier to go back to fact find much like the media threads.

I didn't want it to get lost either. She obviously put a lot of time and effort and did a great job pulling that info together for us.

Personally, I hate long discussion threads. I'd rather have all important information nice and neat in clearly marked topic threads.

[golfmom]

You know what's conspicuously absent from the Marine Corps timeline?

Where is any report of Maria's car being keyed or her being assaulted?

[close_enough]

You know what's conspicuously absent from the Marine Corps timeline?

Where is any report of Maria's car being keyed or her being assaulted?

i wondered the same thing....

[golfmom]

i wondered the same thing....

hmmm ... I'd bet that was a part of her request to live off base and not the mamby-pamby reasoning reported:

On September 17, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach requests permission from her command to move into off-base housing in order to prepare a home for her and her expected child. This is common practice for Marines who are about to go through a life changing event, for example a marriage or having a child.

[close_enough]

here's another timeline by the Sheriff on video.....

http://www.wtov9.com/video/15044379/index.html

[close_enough]

hmmm ... I'd bet that was a part of her request to live off base and not the mamby-pamby reasoning reported:
On September 17, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach requests permission from her command to move into off-base housing in order to prepare a home for her and her expected child. This is common practice for Marines who are about to go through a life changing event, for example a marriage or having a child.

could very well be, golfmom...

[close_enough]

ok....so Jan 11th, NCIS notifies the Sheriff at around 9 am of the note that Christina found at (claims she found) 4 am....

[STEADFAST]

You know what's conspicuously absent from the Marine Corps timeline?

Where is any report of Maria's car being keyed or her being assaulted?

I was wondering that, too. Where did this information come from? Did she report it or did she just tell it to her family and Durham? If the military command did not have this information, they couldn't have acted on it and it wouldn't be in their timeline.

[golfmom]

UNFREAKIN BELIEVABLE ... It wasn't until Christina's call that the Marines had a clue. :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html
At no point prior to Friday morning when information about the note was provided by Cpl Laurean’s spouse, did the regimental commander or the NCIS investigators feel that LCpl Lauterbach was anything other than UA or have information that Cpl Laurean was involved in LCpl Lauterbach’s absence in any way.

[golfmom]

I just caught a replay of the neighbor's interview from Greta.

He was very clear that the shovel was borrowed on the 16th and he saw CL driving Maria's car the next day on the 17th.

[KR2tonenow]

but WAIT!!....ok, Durham said Maria didn't leave the house key there....SO, is it possible that Cesar DID go into the home on the 14th, throw some things together in a bag, write a fake note from Maria?????....gosh, if she got off at noon, he'd been a busy boy if this is the case.....

nawww, i still tend to think that she purchased the bus ticket the next day (the 15th).....course that would mean she'd have stayed somewhere the night of the 14th....i'm surprised that if this is the case, no one's come out to say she stayed at their hotel/motel.......

LOL, i'm going in circles....

I know its mind boggling! Wouldn't there be any witnesses that may have seen Laurean at her home.

What's the deal with Durham? Could he have known about any of this? It all seems to be heresay at this point, because they won't publish what he witnessed or said.

Also they say she died on 12/15, so if she was leaving town, why stop her?

Laurean had more to lose, then a baby being born. He's lies were going to be found!!! Still why kill her?

[KR2tonenow]

UNFREAKIN BELIEVABLE ... It wasn't until Christina's call that the Marines had a clue. :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html
At no point prior to Friday morning when information about the note was provided by Cpl Laurean’s spouse, did the regimental commander or the NCIS investigators feel that LCpl Lauterbach was anything other than UA or have information that Cpl Laurean was involved in LCpl Lauterbach’s absence in any way.

>snip from timeline, military>
From November 4th through November 13th, Cpl Laurean takes annual leave to his home in Las Vegas.

Does anyone find it odd that Laurean leaves for Las Vegas 11/4, >snip

Maria On November 5, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach moves into an off-base house, renting a room from Sgt Durham who is scheduled to deploy during late December and was looking for someone to rent his home while he was deployed. Additionally on this day, trial counsel re-interviews LCpl Lauterbach who readjusts her statement that her pregnancy is a result of the rape. However, she continues to maintain that she was raped by Cpl Laurean. Trial counsel continues to look at evidence and prepare recommendations for further actions to the regimental commander. NCIS continues to look for evidence to corroborate LCpl Lauterbach’s allegations.

set forth and moves offf campus and follows through on the rape allegations while he is out of town.:confused:

hmmm:waitasec:

[JDB]

ok....so Jan 11th, NCIS notifies the Sheriff at around 9 am of the note that Christina found at (claims she found) 4 am....

When I get home from work tonday. I am going to dig through some articles. i think the 4:00 AM time was corrected. ANd she called the LE or the USMC at 8: after finding the note.She and him were seen at 6:30 outside by the neighbor

[FlowerChild]

I know its mind boggling! Wouldn't there be any witnesses that may have seen Laurean at her home.

What's the deal with Durham? Could he have known about any of this? It all seems to be heresay at this point, because they won't publish what he witnessed or said.

Also they say she died on 12/15, so if she was leaving town, why stop her?

Laurean had more to lose, then a baby being born. He's lies were going to be found!!! Still why kill her?

IF CL (or Xtina) went over driving Maria's car, and slipped quietly and quickly in and out would the neighbors have noticed it wasn't Maria? She had only lived there short time too - some neighbors might not have even known she was living there.

Did they recover Maria's keys?? Her house key? What paper was the note written on? Something from the house -- or a piece of paper from somewhere else? Where was the note left? Since I don't think Maria was planning to go anywhere I also doubt she wrote the note - and if she did, I feel it was probably done under duress. I hope the experts can tell! (and I cannot believe it just occured to NCIS to check out the note!

My Opinion

[Seven]

This case is definitely in the twilight zone ...... What are the odds that notifications about different occurrences on different dates (12/14/07, 12/15/07, 12/24/07, and 01/07/08) were ALL "received by the command" on ONE date, namely, 01/09/08?????

"I’d like to discuss briefly some specific information received by the command and when it was received:

• Information regarding a $700 ATM withdrawal made on December 14th was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding the purchase of the Greyhound bus ticket to El Paso on December 15th was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding LCpl Lauterbach’s cell phone being recovered and the circumstances of the recovery was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding an unidentified male withdrawing $400 from LCpl Lauterbach’s account on December 24th is provided on January 9th.

• Information regarding LCpl Lauterbach’s vehicle being found near the Greyhound bus station in Jacksonville on January 7th was provided on January 9th."

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

My, what a coincidence! :rolleyes:

[golfmom]

This case is definitely in the twilight zone ...... What are the odds that notifications about different occurrences on different dates (12/14/07, 12/15/07, 12/24/07, and 01/07/08) were ALL "received by the command" on ONE date, namely, 01/09/08?????

"I’d like to discuss briefly some specific information received by the command and when it was received:

• Information regarding a $700 ATM withdrawal made on December 14th was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding the purchase of the Greyhound bus ticket to El Paso on December 15th was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding LCpl Lauterbach’s cell phone being recovered and the circumstances of the recovery was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding an unidentified male withdrawing $400 from LCpl Lauterbach’s account on December 24th is provided on January 9th.

• Information regarding LCpl Lauterbach’s vehicle being found near the Greyhound bus station in Jacksonville on January 7th was provided on January 9th."

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

My, what a coincidence! :rolleyes:

One thing I've been considering is that possibly local LE was running through the investigations, pulling a lot of this information together, and the local Marine unit was blocking access to CL. Finally the Sheriff went directly to their command. Unfortunately, even with Maria's uncle and mother and the Sheriff trying to get their attention, it still took a couple of days before Command got serious about what was happening.

[golfmom]

Mygirlsadie: the shovel was borrowed on the 16th, and the neighbor saw CL driving Maria's car on the 17th.

Could you delete your post on the other timeline?
Thanks!

[Mygirlsadie]

Ok thanks! And yes I will delete it.. Where was Maria from the 14th to the 16th when apparently she was buried then? :waitasec:



Mygirlsadie: the shovel was borrowed on the 16th, and the neighbor saw CL driving Maria's car on the 17th.

Could you delete your post on the other timeline?
Thanks!

[golfmom]

Ok thanks! And yes I will delete it.. Where was Maria from the 14th to the 16th when apparently she was buried then? :waitasec:

Maybe Christina could answer that one for us. :confused:

[btbsmith]

One thing I've been considering is that possibly local LE was running through the investigations, pulling a lot of this information together, and the local Marine unit was blocking access to CL. Finally the Sheriff went directly to their command. Unfortunately, even with Maria's uncle and mother and the Sheriff trying to get their attention, it still took a couple of days before Command got serious about what was happening.
When I looked at the PDF files of the variuos warrants posted elswehere in these threads, it appeared to me that the local LE folks were either slack or just slack in teir investigation. They did not contact the base - only checked a national database to see if she was listed AWOL (18 Dec as I recall). Did not follow-up with folks on the base. This to me is just plain sloppy. Other than the waterwitch hanger trick used to locate Maria's body, I am just not impressed with LE in this case.

No doubt the base folks dropped the ball in dragging out the rape investigation and in not contacting LE sometime between 17 Dec and 7 Dec. May be partially due to seperate hands not talking to eachother. From my knowledge, NCIS is purposefully totally seperate from MPs and rest of base. Sad. Hopefully this will spur some real change both in military and in local LE.

[golfmom]

When I looked at the PDF files of the variuos warrants posted elswehere in these threads, it appeared to me that the local LE folks were either slack or just slack in teir investigation. They did not contact the base - only checked a national database to see if she was listed AWOL (18 Dec as I recall). Did not follow-up with folks on the base. This to me is just plain sloppy. Other than the waterwitch hanger trick used to locate Maria's body, I am just not impressed with LE in this case.

No doubt the base folks dropped the ball in dragging out the rape investigation and in not contacting LE sometime between 17 Dec and 7 Dec. May be partially due to seperate hands not talking to eachother. From my knowledge, NCIS is purposefully totally seperate from MPs and rest of base. Sad. Hopefully this will spur some real change both in military and in local LE.

One of the things the sheriff discussed during an interview was that as the detectives frustration in not having their calls returned as to their inquiries on the base. After the detectives brought their concerns to the sheriff he contacted command and things began moving. Seems like during Dec. and early Jan. the unit was dragging their feet cooperating with LE.

[SeriouslySearching]

I also recall hearing that Cesar worked until 4:00am when he took off early.

[Mysterylover]

IF CL (or Xtina) went over driving Maria's car, and slipped quietly and quickly in and out would the neighbors have noticed it wasn't Maria? She had only lived there short time too - some neighbors might not have even known she was living there.

Did they recover Maria's keys?? Her house key?
What paper was the note written on? Something from the house -- or a piece of paper from somewhere else? Where was the note left?

Since I don't think Maria was planning to go anywhere I also doubt she wrote the note - and if she did, I feel it was probably done under duress.

I hope the experts can tell! (and I cannot believe it just occured to NCIS to check out the note!

My Opinion....

All very good points...
we know WHO always thought they needed to write notes about everything and to everyone....this tells me...Maria's note was not her ideal...

Nothing points to Maria leaving for good, maybe the weekend...imo

Who would walk off and leave the military and everything she owned?

What about her car, medical expenses and belongings? Leaving all that behind, 7+ months pregnant riding on a bus, and having only $700.00...no way....it doesn't make any sense to me.

I read somewhere she had one outfit with her, the type she would wear to a nice gathering or party.....
was she planning to go to the christmas party or out to dinner with someone, possibly spend the night with someone or a far out theory, thinking she was getting married that long weekend....jmo

[oceanblueeyes]

This case is definitely in the twilight zone ...... What are the odds that notifications about different occurrences on different dates (12/14/07, 12/15/07, 12/24/07, and 01/07/08) were ALL "received by the command" on ONE date, namely, 01/09/08?????

"I’d like to discuss briefly some specific information received by the command and when it was received:

• Information regarding a $700 ATM withdrawal made on December 14th was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding the purchase of the Greyhound bus ticket to El Paso on December 15th was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding LCpl Lauterbach’s cell phone being recovered and the circumstances of the recovery was provided to the command on January 9th.

• Information regarding an unidentified male withdrawing $400 from LCpl Lauterbach’s account on December 24th is provided on January 9th.

• Information regarding LCpl Lauterbach’s vehicle being found near the Greyhound bus station in Jacksonville on January 7th was provided on January 9th."

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

My, what a coincidence! :rolleyes:

I don't find it odd. All of these things were uncovered by the Sheriff's department during their investigation. I supposed this is when the OCSD detective met with NCIS and told them of what they had uncovered up to that point.

[oceanblueeyes]

I got this from the LeJeune presser timeline (thanks again, Close)

"On Friday, December 14, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach reported to work as normal. The work day ended at 12 noon as the command was having a Christmas party. Attendance was not mandatory and LCpl Lauterbach elected not to attend. ...

. . . when Sgt Durham arrives home from work, he finds a note left for him by LCpl Lauterbach stating, “I could not take this Marine Corps life anymore. So I am going away. Sorry for the inconvenience. Maria.” Sgt Durham notices that some of her personal items are missing. She does not leave the house key behind. Sgt Durham calls LCpl Lauterbach’s sister concerning the note. Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA.”

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

* Since the work day ended at 12, I wonder what time Durham got home and read the note? IOW, how much time elapsed between the time Maria left work and Durham found the note she supposedly wrote?

* Does anyone know what the sister supposedly said?

* Maria had just moved into the house with Durham on 11/05 ...... and by 12/14 Durham knows enough about her "personal items" to know some of them are missing?

* Why did Durham give official "UA" notice via text message within such a short time of reading the note? I mean, wouldn't most people be more likely to wait a day or so to see whether she would call or change her mind come back? Why get her in trouble on 12/14 when she wasn't due back on base until Monday 12/17? Is this the way Marines normally treat each other?

I think Durham is a fine Marine and no matter how passionate he may have been about helping Maria he could not cover for her. He had to think about himself. They would ask him how long he had had the note and imo he was not going to lie about it so he did reported it as he should have.

I do think he thought the note was from Maria and did think she had gone UA.

I don't believe Durham is in the same MOS as Laurean and Maria. He may have had to work his full schedule which most likely would be until 4:00 pm then like most they go to the bank after work especially on payday.

imoo