Questions and Answers ONLY with sources!!!

[Camper]

I am so behind on reading. Thought a thread for QUESTIONS from posters like me would be a good idea.

POST YOUR QUESTION WITH NO
PERSONAL COMMENT

THEN IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER
POST IT With a BRIEF synopsis

THEN THEN THEN --> POST THE LINK so we can read in full. :boohoo: :rolleyes:

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[Camper]

Question # 1.

WHEN DID POS start borrowing or purchasing LARGE AMOUNTS OF CHARCOAL for his Christmas BBQ?

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[Camper]

#2

What nationality is POS wife?

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[Camper]

#3
What was the date of the BBQ?

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[Ticamom]

#2

What nationality is POS wife?

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Christina is a U.S. citizen from Ohio, but I don't have a link of her passport. She is also an acive duty Marine working on Camp Lejeune.

[Camper]

#4


4. What was the last day that Maria officially worked?

a. Was Maria on military pregnancy leave and NOT working?

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[golfmom]

#4


4. What was the last day that Maria officially worked?

a. Was Maria on military pregnancy leave and NOT working?

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http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

On Friday, December 14, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach reported to work as normal. The work day ended at 12 noon as the command was having a Christmas party. Attendance was not mandatory and LCpl Lauterbach elected not to attend. That morning Sgt Durham saw her car at the home when leaving for work.

[ceeaura]

#5.
How long had Maria been at that duty station when the rape/encounter happend?

[golfmom]

#5.
How long had Maria been at that duty station when the rape/encounter happend?

LCpl Maria Lauterbach was born in Orange City, Florida. Her home of record when she joined the Marine Corps in July of 2005 was Vandalia, Ohio. She graduated from Boot Camp in September of 2006 and was trained as a Personnel Clerk. This was her first duty station after completing her required training. She had not deployed in support of the Global War on Terrorism. She was promoted to Lance Corporal on February 1st, 2007, and her record indicates she was a solid Marine.

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

[Camper]

Question # 1.

WHEN DID POS start borrowing or purchasing LARGE AMOUNTS OF CHARCOAL for his Christmas BBQ?

No answer to this question yet.

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[Camper]

#6 er

What date did Maria's car show up in POS driveway that the neighbor saw?

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[golfmom]

#6 er

What date did Maria's car show up in POS driveway that the neighbor saw?

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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1914789&postcount=195

Posted by SEVEN:

Interview w/Laurean's Neighbor
Watch the video of Laurean's next-door neighbor @
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/#

It's part-way down the page, under the heading "Murdered Marine Mystery."

Greta's stand-in starts out talking about cast-off on the ceiling and walls, then introduces the interview, during which neighbor (name sounds like "Richard Allander") gives this info:

1. Laurean was having a bonfire in his backyard on Christmas Eve.
2. Laurean borrowed a shovel from Allander @ 12/16.
3. 12/16 or 12/17 Allander saw Laurean driving Maria's car.
4. Christina talked to Allander's wife frequently and, sometime after Christmas, Xtina mentioned that she and "stellar" <gag> would be painting inside the house.
5. Last time Allander saw Xtina Laurean: Thursday, Jan. 10.
6. Allander's wife saw Cesar Laurean in his driveway, getting ready to leave @ 6:30 a.m. Fri Jan 11 when she took her dogs for a walk.

Allander said he saw the removal of the bodies from beginning to end, said he never wants to see anything like that again.

[Camper]

Repeating same question:

What was Christina's work schedule on Dec 14?
DID Christina WORK THE MORNING of the Marine Christmas Party?

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#Repeating Little Deer Question:

#8 HOW late did MARINE PARTY GO?

JUST Q.'s and A's with posted links please & brief synopsis of link posted.

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[close_enough]

hey Camper...i posted a link relating to the weather, for the month of December, in Jacksonville NC, over on the 'burned body' thread for you .....(earlier today)

[fran]

#7

What was Christina's work schedule on Dec 14?

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I don't know what Christina's work schedule was but per NG show, they just said that she attended the Marine Christmas party that night. She expected her husband to show up but he didn't. Then she went home.

The question then was, 'what did she find when she went home?'

This will probably be on NG transcript later tonite or tomorrow for today.

Hope this helps,
fran

[Littledeer]

Question:

Did this party start at Noon and go on until night time??

Do we have any times of the party anywhere? Has it been stated yet?

[Camper]

#9 What DATE did neighbor say POS was digging in yard when he said 'planting' flowers?

#10 Hole where body found was HUGE, DID POS Dig it all by himself in one day?

#11 What did Christina think of the 'flower planting' hole digging? Did she know about or WHY the hole was being dug?


I BRING THESE QUESTIONS HERE TO ASK ONLY AND WHEN OR IF ANSWERS ARE KNOWN POST LINKS HERE WITH A SHORT SYNOPSIS OF THE LINK. KEEPING IT SIMPLE HERE. NO CONVERSATION DO IT ON OTHER THREADS. THANKS.

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[SeriouslySearching]

#10. LE is going to dig the hole much deeper and wider to get all the evidence that could be present. This does not mean he dug the hole anywhere near this size.

(I don't mind answering questions, but I would spend hours going back to find all the links etc. Sorry..not happening, Camper. : ))

[Rum Tum Tugger]

I don't know what Christina's work schedule was but per NG show, they just said that she attended the Marine Christmas party that night. She expected her husband to show up but he didn't. Then she went home.

The question then was, 'what did she find when she went home?';

This will probably be on NG transcript later tonite or tomorrow for today.

Hope this helps,
fran



Thanks Fran! :)

Okay, it's available. This is the link to all Nancy Grace transcripts on CNN ...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

No answer on bolded question posed above.

Also - not stated if the Christmas party at the Base was in the evening or started sometime after 12 noon. No timeframe given.

O/T comment:

So much of Grace's show is simply "opinion" from guests - and meant to be considerably more tabloidish & purposefully controversial than say, "On the Record".

I noted numerous mistakes stated by these "supposedly in-the-know experts" in this latest 1/17 transcript when these pundits were discussing facts .. and stating much "opinion".

For "Facts" - I would rely far more on Greta's straight forward questions with knowledgeable people (LE spokesman) who actually deliver accurate information - or say they cannot comment on specific evidence. JMHO

Camper, If I locate links to any of the questions above - I will certainly post them here on your thread. Kudos to you - a thread with questions & accurate info requiring corroboration!

Rum Tum

[lkd-ga]

Thanks Fran! :)

Okay, it's available. This is the link to all Nancy Grace transcripts on CNN ...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

No answer on bolded question posed above.

Also - not stated if the Christmas party at the Base was in the evening or started sometime after 12 noon. No timeframe given.

O/T comment:

So much of Grace's show is simply "opinion" from guests - and meant to be considerably more tabloidish & purposefully controversial than say, "On the Record".

I noted numerous mistakes stated by these "supposedly in-the-know experts" in this latest 1/17 transcript when these pundits were discussing facts .. and stating much "opinion".

For "Facts" - I would rely far more on Greta's straight forward questions with knowledgeable people (LE spokesman) who actually deliver accurate information - or say they cannot comment on specific evidence. JMHO

Camper, If I locate links to any of the questions above - I will certainly post them here on your thread. Kudos to you - a thread with questions & accurate info requiring corroboration!

Rum Tum

Below is what was stated from news article at fox.

Christina Laurean told police she was at a Christmas party for her husband's Marine unit during the late afternoon and evening of December 15, Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown told CNN. Her husband did not attend the party, she told authorities.

[Rum Tum Tugger]

Below is what was stated from news article at fox.

Quote:
Christina Laurean told police she was at a Christmas party for her husband's Marine unit during the late afternoon and evening of December 15, Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown told CNN. Her husband did not attend the party, she told authorities.


Thanks, lkd-ga - do you have a specific source link?

It says above the party was the 15th.

Wasn't the party on Friday, the 14th - as has been reported by most sources?

My other question:

So - Exactly 'what date' did Christina tell LE authorities that the Christmas Party on the Base took place?

Thanks!

Rum Tum

[lkd-ga]

Thanks, lkd-ga - do you have a specific source link?

It says above the party was the 15th.

Wasn't the party on Friday, the 14th - as has been reported by most sources?

My question:
So - Exactly 'what date' did Christina tell LE authorities that the Christmas Party on the Base took place?

Thanks!

Rum Tum

Sorry Rum Tum it was CNN not foxhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/17/missing.marine/

[Camper]

This is the format I want for MY thread here. To assist poster readers who want firm information and who are not able to be on puter all day.



Questions in color please,
Answers with LINK & short snyopsis of link


Sample Post:
Where was blood found in POS home?

http://www.wtkr.com/Global/story.asp...6&nav=ZolHbyvj (http://www.wtkr.com/Global/story.asp?S=7614196&nav=ZolHbyvj)

...Brown says tests show blood in two areas of Laurean's home...and that someone tried to hide the blood by painting over it. Investigators say luminol, a chemical used to detect traces of blood, revealed that there was a large amount of blood before the attempted cleanup.
B]=====================end of sample post[/B]

I snarfed this from another thread, so IF IF IF you find a question that has a firm answer post it right here like the above sample.

Thread chatting and sleuthing is good, but not on this thread. Chatting takes up so much space and reading time for posters who cannot keep up with it.

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[Camper]

What day was the Marine Christmas party held on the base?

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[golfmom]

This is the format I want for MY thread here.
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OK Mrs. Monk!

[Camper]

:boohoo: :rolleyes:

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS TO THIS POINT FROM PAGE 1

#9 What DATE did neighbor say POS was digging in yard when he said 'planting' flowers?

#10 Hole where body found was HUGE, DID POS Dig it all by himself in one day?

#11 What did Christina think of the 'flower planting' hole digging? Did she know about or WHY the hole was being dug?

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NO CHATTING, signed Mrs. Monk! JUST sourced facts & short synopsis.

[Camper]

Another question.

1. Still trying to play catch-up. What was reason Mrs. POS gave for why POS did not come to the Marine unit party with her?

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[golfmom]

#12. What day were the shovels and paint bought?

[STEADFAST]

#12. What day were the shovels and paint bought?

"The surveillance video from December 16 shows Cpl. Laurean shopping at a Lowe's home improvement store two days after Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach is believed to have been killed, said Onslow County Sheriff's spokesman Rick Sutherland. . .
"The video shows Laurean purchasing supplies, paint, concrete blocks and a wheelbarrow."
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/18/missing.marine/

So Dec 16 was the date. But not a report of his buying a shovel in this article.

[dottierainbow]

Is it normal to plant flowers in Dec.?

[Jolynna]

Who helped CL drop the car off at the bus station?

[Camper]

Questions numbered #100, 99, 98 and 97



#100 - HOW did Maria find her 'room mate' for off base housing?

# 99 - Was the room mate married?

# 98 - HOW long had Maria known the room mate?
# 97 - How old is the room mate? :rolleyes: :confused:

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[Camper]

I have not been able to read every single page, I am having MAJOR eye problems, with macular degeneration and forming cataracts. THAT is one reason I started this thread.

The KISS method, 'Keep It Simple Stupid'

Just Questions
Just sourced Answers
Short synopsis of the link provided with the answer.

The other major reason I started this thread is for ALL of the people who cannot spend hours on line and read every single post and link.

Question #95 - HOW did the room mate know exactly WHAT 'FEW things' were missing, a male marine at that, a woman maybe?

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[calidreamin]

What day did Mrs. POS tell her neighbor she was busy painting the whole house and the garage?

[JinxieJada]

Question **The search warrant that talks about kidnapping 2 items mentioned were a type of silver house key & a note entitled "terms and conditions"

*Was the key Maria's key?

*What note was that?


Question - * In the superior court documents, it stated that Cesar had told members of his unit that he would go to Mexico if it looked like he was going to be found guilty of the rape charges.

When were those statements made?

With those statements on file, shouldn't he have been Considered a flight risk?

Why was he considered not one, with those statements on file?

[Camper]

Thank you all who HAVE respected the focus of this thread.

Many questions I post I already know are unanswerable, but should pose new lines of thinking about this case.

I do read my PM's, I do not answer those which I feel are insulting, and supposing that they KNOW all of my reasons for what I do. Kreskins are a rarity. I am sorry Littledeer that you only have one eye.

Chatting has already taken up much bandwidth. I note that the chatters do not have all the real facts at hand, which means in my book of wondrment that THEY have not read all of the links either. NOR many times have they fully read the honorable posts with precise information either.

Now back to the Questions that arise for all of us. Just pose em here and wait til WE ALL KNOW the answers from LE and the MILITARY.

Keep on chatting, I love to chatter too, but not on this thread.

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[Littledeer]

At what stage of the pregnancy can a sonogram definatly point out that the fetus is a boy or a girl?

[fran]

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/prenataltesting/ultrasound.html

When can an ultrasound determine the sex of the baby? You may have an ultrasound between 18 to 20 weeks to evaluate dates, a multiples pregnancy, placenta location or complications. It may also be possible to determine the gender of your baby during this ultrasound. Several factors, such as the stage of pregnancy and position of fetus, will influence the accuracy of the gender prediction. To be 100% sure you will have an anxious wait until the birth!

[Littledeer]

thanks fran.

[Camper]

Another question:

Question: IF IF POS can be charged with desertion, if AWOL (forgot the new term for leaving without permission etc), why not hold the pursuit of POS until he has reached the desertion time limit of 45 days?

Feel free for comments here, I have abandoned my thought of order of compliance with my original focus, of questions and answers only.


Question: IF IF LE/military already know where POS is, could they be waiting for the time frame to be right to haul him in for desertion?

Question: Would a charge of desertion apply since he did not disappear on a military field of battle in wartime?

I think there is a possibility of LE knowing exactly where he is NOW, and will nab him when he crosses the border again, what do you all think?

Question: Also now that he has been officially charged, is he fodder for the Bounty Hunters?

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[Camper]

Another question:

Question: IF IF POS can be charged with desertion, if AWOL (forgot the new term for leaving without permission etc), why not hold the pursuit of POS until he has reached the desertion time limit of 45 days?

Feel free for comments here, I have abandoned my thought of order of compliance with my original focus, of questions and answers only.


Question: IF IF LE/military already know where POS is, could they be waiting for the time frame to be right to haul him in for desertion?

Question: Would a charge of desertion apply since he did not disappear on a military field of battle in wartime?

I think there is a possibility of LE knowing exactly where he is NOW, and will nab him when he crosses the border again, what do you all think?

Question: Also now that he has been officially charged, is he fodder for the Bounty Hunters?

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Bumping for new questions.

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[Soonerbabie]

Do they have any idea what he may be driving?

[Truly]

Unauthorized Absence (UA) is the new term, Camper. There is supposed to be a 45 day wait before the charge of UA is upgraded to desertion. HOWEVER, the Marines, in their official announcement, stated that they had charged MARIA with desertion after only a few days, out of some sickeningly false pretence of concern for her baby.

The penalty for desertion is death ONLY IF the United States is in a declared war. Neither Iraq nor Afganistan are declared wars.

[Sedona]

DNA DNA DNA results. I want them so bad, just to know if the baby she was carrying was indeed Laurean's. How long should I expect to wait for those results? Or have they been released somewhere and I haven't run across them yet?

[Mygirlsadie]

I don't think those have been realesed yet because if they were released already that would open up a whole other can of worms!! Oooh if Laurean was this little guy/girls daddy it's going to make this story that much more awful..




DNA DNA DNA results. I want them so bad, just to know if the baby she was carrying was indeed Laurean's. How long should I expect to wait for those results? Or have they been released somewhere and I haven't run across them yet?

[Camper]

Unauthorized Absence (UA) is the new term, Camper. There is supposed to be a 45 day wait before the charge of UA is upgraded to desertion. HOWEVER, the Marines, in their official announcement, stated that they had charged MARIA with desertion after only a few days, out of some sickeningly false pretence of concern for her baby.

The penalty for desertion is death ONLY IF the United States is in a declared war. Neither Iraq nor Afganistan are declared wars.



--->>>Thank you so much. I do think a thread for just questions and good answers is a good idea. Surely WE all care enough to come over with answers for each other, without wading through a ton of chat. I love to chat, but cannot always READ enough to get up to snuff on stuff.

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[FMRUSMC]

My son just got out of the military - I've been out for several years now. He says there has not been the DP for deserters since WWII. UA is the term 'Unauthorized Absence' for a Marine not showing up to work.

[STEADFAST]

Unauthorized Absence (UA) is the new term, Camper. There is supposed to be a 45 day wait before the charge of UA is upgraded to desertion. HOWEVER, the Marines, in their official announcement, stated that they had charged MARIA with desertion after only a few days, out of some sickeningly false pretence of concern for her baby.

The penalty for desertion is death ONLY IF the United States is in a declared war. Neither Iraq nor Afganistan are declared wars.


Truly, there is a good reason for them to have charged Maria with desertion out of concern for her.

Service members who are listed as UA will not make it into LE databases and the military does not go looking for them. The service kind of hopes that once soldiers go UA, they will stay out for 45 days, using up their leave and running out their pay. Otherwise, the military is in the position of, when they find them and give them a dishonorable discharge, having to pay them a month's salary, plus any leave accrued, not to mention having to pay them while they are in the brig.

If a member is listed as a deserter, though, they ARE entered into LE databases. The military still won't go out and look for them, but if they are stopped by the police, their ID is flagged, the military is notified, and they are held until the military can pick them up. Being charged as a deserter was really the only way the military had to locate Maria.

Our military is not allowed by law to go out into the civilian parts of the U.S. and search for people. As my husband says, "It's Posse Comitatus, baby."

[philamena]

What day did Mrs. POS tell her neighbor she was busy painting the whole house and the garage?
The neighbors husband was interviewed by Greta's team and said pos's wife talked about painting the house around the 16th, he wasn't sure of the date.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player...&299.021&&&new (http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?011408/011408_greta_alander&On_the_Record&Speaking%20Out&acc&On%20the%20Record&-1&Shows&299.021&&&new)

[philamena]

Is it normal to plant flowers in Dec.?

I live in the SE so I can tell you no, it's not normal to plant flowers in Dec. Many people in the SE plants bulbs in the fall and some trees and shrubs can be planted in winter, but not flowers.

[Crime-Dreamer]

Is it policy for the military to notify LE of the restraining order that Maria filed against Laurean?

Did they violate policy by not doing that?

[Crime-Dreamer]

Is it true that a state official has oppointed a public defender for Laurean even though he as not been arrested and he has hired three attorneys on his own and that the local DA said it was, "highly unusual?"