Christina Laurean's Possible Involvement #2

[SuziQ]

Bloody shoe on the stoop would have been a good thing to have taken the first time for evidence, too. (Now they can say it WAS planted.)

A defense attorney's dream come true.

[Littledeer]

I was thinking the kitchen faced toward the road based on the pic of the front of house.

That tiny window to the right, is what I thought would be the kitchen??

The two windows to the left of the pic, look like bedroom windows. IMO

[soobs]

The discovery of the shoe, well it's a little suspicious don't ya think? Mark Furhman was in the neighborhood. (I'm seeking cover now!) (PS, it's a joke except for the fact some defense attorney may try to use the idea.) (My husband's in law enforcement so I can make the joke.)

[boody]

Greta finding The shoe is suspicious, if I weren't getting to know the style of LE here, with their shoddy missing person followup, dowsing rods, skewed timelines, fruitless chase, and allowing reporters to traipse through the crime scene.

So, bloody shoe legit? Yeah, maybe.

[lkd-ga]

From the layout I've seen of the house, is the kitchen window in the back of the house? They usually are, old tradition, so moms can keep an eye on their kids playing in the backyard. Well, that dug up area would be in full view!



Was it ever determined if he stashed her in the woods and moved her later to the back yard?

[Tom'sGirl]

From the layout I've seen of the house, is the kitchen window in the back of the house? They usually are, old tradition, so moms can keep an eye on their kids playing in the backyard. Well, that dug up area would be in full view!
They said that door near the windows led into the LivingRoom

[Tom'sGirl]

I was thinking the kitchen faced toward the road based on the pic of the front of house.
I agree, and in this photo the window is left (in photo) of the garage and probably where the entry is to the garage.
http://i30.tinypic.com/1z4ipt3.jpg

[Littledeer]

TG:

Okay, I would like to retract my statement earlier.

From the front of the house, I would think the the two windows to the left are the living room, and the one small window to the right is the kitchen.

I know it's a 5 room house. 2 bedrooms, 1 kitchen, and 1 living room.

So where is the washer and dryer located at? In the Garage?? There is no basement. Maybe, it's in a hallway to the garage??

[SuziQ]

Was it ever determined if he stashed her in the woods and moved her later to the back yard?

Not that I have heard. I don't think anyone knows where Maria was for two days.

[Littledeer]

TG:

From the front of the house, I would think the the two windows to the left are the living room, and the one small window to the right is the kitchen.

So where is the washer and dryer located at? In the Garage?? There is no basement. Maybe, it's in a hallway to the garage??

There are 2 bathrooms. Maybe located next to one of them??

[Littledeer]

sorry, for the two postings that look alike.

Server hung up as I was redacting some info in the first one.

Oh well.

[Tom'sGirl]

TG:

Okay, I would like to retract my statement earlier.

From the front of the house, I would think the the two windows to the left are the living room, and the one small window to the right is the kitchen.

I know it's a 5 room house. 2 bedrooms, 1 kitchen, and 1 living room.

So where is the washer and dryer located at? In the Garage?? There is no basement. Maybe, it's in a hallway to the garage??
I think the front windows on the house were of the bedrooms. As you walk in, the living room was straight ahead with the windows facing the back yard and a door leading out. The washer/dryer may have been in the kitchen area along the wall connecting to the garage.

[FMRUSMC]

TG:

From the front of the house, I would think the the two windows to the left are the living room, and the one small window to the right is the kitchen.

So where is the washer and dryer located at? In the Garage?? There is no basement. Maybe, it's in a hallway to the garage??

There are 2 bathrooms. Maybe located next to one of them??

This is J'ville. They are at sea level. From my experience living there - I never saw one house with a basement. This is a small house - where is there room for a laundry room?

[Littledeer]

FMRUSMC:

Your post:

I never saw one house with a basement. This is a small house - where is there room for a laundry room

My post:

So where is the washer and dryer located at? In the Garage?? There is no basement. Maybe, it's in a hallway to the garage??


We both agreed there was no basement. I posted the question if possibly a washer and dryer could be in a hallway leading to the garage?? Not necessarily in a "room" but in a hallway.

[FMRUSMC]

We both agreed there was no basement. I posted the question if possibly a washer and dryer could be in a hallway leading to the garage?? Not necessarily in a "room" but in a hallway.

I just replayed Greta again from last night - there are two external doors to the back yard. The one to the far left viewing from the burial site goes into the garage. Upon entering there is a window to the outside on the left. To the right is an upainted wall (taped and floated) where there could possibly be a small room that may possibly open directly to the house.
:waitasec:
I can't wait 'til everyone can put up the following:
:clap: :woohoo: :dance:

[SeriouslySearching]

Is there a reason we need to debate where the washer and dryer are located? My guess would be in a closet in the hallway actually...near the main bathroom. : )

[Littledeer]

"Two external" doors to the back yard?

Well that is certainly something different. Of course I do believe in each state and the envoronmental weather comes into play on what the majority of houses would be built as.

Personally, I haven't heard of, or seen two doors that lead outside to the backyard from a house.

FRM: Is that a statement that you heard and has been corroborated?

[gardenmom]

Is there a reason we need to debate where the washer and dryer are located? My guess would be in a closet in the hallway actually...near the main bathroom. : )

I think it was because if it was in the garage, which is common in a small house, then she may have gone to the garage while it was in the process of being cleaned/painted.

[gardenmom]

"Two external" doors to the back yard?

Well that is certainly something different. Of course I do believe in each state and the envoronmental weather comes into play on what the majority of houses would be built as.

Personally, I haven't heard of, or seen two doors that lead outside to the backyard from a house.

FRM: Is that a statement that you heard and has been corroborated?

I know you didn't ask me, but it was pointed out and clarified last night on Greta. One door went to the garage, and the other the living room.

[Tom'sGirl]

"Two external" doors to the back yard
Yes two doors to the back yard, but one is from the garage (where the shoe was located) and one leading to the living room.

[Littledeer]

Thanks for the responses on my question on the doors, washer and dryer etc.

SS: I wasn't trying to debate.

Are you feeling okay??

[FlowerChild]

I have lived in two smaller tract-type houses similar to the Laurean's in my life - one had the WD in the garage and one in the hallway of the house. Since the garage isn't usually heated, often the WD being there has to do with the climate. In places without basements like TX, FL, Coastal NC, SC, LA, GA, etc the garage is a common place for the WD. But in places like OK, MO, KS - it gets much colder and the WD kinda has to be inside the house or the garage heated in winter to avoid frozen pipes. As far as doors - ONE house had the access to the backyard ONLY thru the garage, the other had access from the house directly to the patio and NO access from the garage to the backyard.

And NEWER houses, at least here in temperate Texas, and in my BIL's region in Wilmington, NC have MANY doors to the back yard. BIL's custom-built house in NC has like 5 or 6 doors to the backyard - including one door he specially requested that opens from the rear of the garage in the "workshop" area to the backyard. Our last house in Dallas had 4 HUGE doors (2 patio doors, 2 french doors) that opened to the backyard/patio - but none from the garage (garage opened onto driveway on an alley) - access to the backyard was from the driveway thru a gate). Our current house has 5 doors to the backyard from the house and again NO door from the garage to the backyard - here you have to go outside and across the driveway and go thru a gate and down another walkway alongside the house to get to the backyard. Both houses you walk thru the utility room (with the WD) to enter the house from the garage.

I never thought about it till now, but I have never lived in a house my WHOLE LIFE that had both a door from the HOUSE to the backyard and one from the GARAGE into the backyard. The only houses I have seen with both a garage-backyard door and house-backyard door were custom-built or a total remodel.

I think a LOT is dependent on the age of the house, and the climate - I have lived in 6 different states though, and in houses from older small and basic, to new, large and upscale. In my experience only remodeled or custom-built houses have BOTH a garage door to the backyard and doors from the HOUSE to the backyard and only houses in warmer climates and houses built in the 50's -70's have the WD connections in the garage. Later - even in warmer climates, the WD is in the house somewhere.

Just My Experience Tho....

[JDB]

I owned a home now that has the two doors.

[Seven]

It would make sense he used the wheelbarrow to move her body so I don't understand why they would not have taken it in as evidence either. I think that might have been a mistake on their part. We learned in the Peterson case that blood mixed with water still leaves a certain staining, if I recall correctly what Dr. Baden said at one point.

Greta asked Sutherland about the wheelbarrow, and he said they found it toward the back of the backyard and it was already filled with water at that time. Of course, they didnt find it until 1/11, so it could have sat out there in the yard getting rained on for a month.

As greta pointed out last night, the wheelbarrow looked new and still had the Lowes stickers on it.

[Seven]

did anyone notice when the Sheriff was talking to Greta and she asked about Christina, he definitely doubted her innocence? Is there a transcript to read his exact words?

I havent see a transcript yet. Some of greta's interviews have transcripts, but some do not. I dont know how much the court reporters (if that's who they use) charge per page, but it is pretty expensive, so it's possible that Greta doesn't have the budget to afford to have everything transcribed.

anyway, there seems to be no rhyme or reason ..... maybe they wait to see which clips get the most hits and then go ahead and transcribe those before taking the clip off their website? :confused:

[Seven]

Has anyone ever had a gnawing thought that won't go away but you don't know what it is?
Well, I've had one for days now and I just realized what it was this morning.
This might have already been discussed or even might be considered trivial.
But, IIRC, the note supposedly left by Maria at the home she was renting from Durham and which Durham found when he got home, supposedly said, (this is not the exact quote but close enough)

"I could not take the Marines any longer."

If you are the writer, wouldn't you have written, "I can't take the Marines any longer?

Can't being in the present tense and could being in the past tense??

That has stuck in my craw, too! (you got the antlers, I got the craw) :mad:

Because, as you said, past tense. Maybe somebody else wrote that note and, being in a hurry, used the past tense because they knew Maria was already dead.


Think capture! :behindbar

[Seven]

Bloody shoe on the stoop would have been a good thing to have taken the first time for evidence, too. (Now they can say it WAS planted.)

How could it be planted when the mate to it was inside the garage? Do they say the mate was planted, too?

[Seven]

Greta finding The shoe is suspicious, if I weren't getting to know the style of LE here, with their shoddy missing person followup, dowsing rods, skewed timelines, fruitless chase, and allowing reporters to traipse through the crime scene.

So, bloody shoe legit? Yeah, maybe.

It would seem so, boody ........ didnt seem staged:

According to Greta's "Crime Scene Tour" video, it was Sheriff Brown who noticed the shoe as they returned from the backyard to the house. And he immediately called for CSI to come pick it up.

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

[Seven]

Was it ever determined if he stashed her in the woods and moved her later to the back yard?

In Greta's interview w/Sutherland, when she was asking him about Christina's demeanor as she was telling her story to the FBI, he alluded to the buriel in the woods that was written in the note by CL was a false statement, and that the one and only place Maria/Gabriella were buried were right in Xtina's own backyard.

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

[Seven]

"Two external" doors to the back yard?



I really wish you could see the vid clips, LD
You gotta get working on that Valentine's gift! :blowkiss:

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

[SeriouslySearching]

How could it be planted when the mate to it was inside the garage? Do they say the mate was planted, too?I am not saying it was planted. I am saying that since it was missed during the first search warrant even if it were laying in plain sight where it was finally found...a defense Atty. would rip it to shreds as evidence in court or keep it completely out of court due to "chain of command" issues etc. It is what I would imagine a good defense Atty. would come up with tho. :rolleyes:

[SeriouslySearching]

Another thing that Brown mentioned was the corner of the yard where Christina said the "suicide" actually took place. Of course, that was another lie. (Was this in the note?!)

[STEADFAST]

Another thing that Brown mentioned was the corner of the yard where Christina said the "suicide" actually took place. Of course, that was another lie. (Was this in the note?!)

Yeah, how could the note describe that particular place? He must have shown her the spot. Plus, wouldn't she notice that there was no blood in that spot? Even if Christina wasn't involved (and I think she was) there must be a point where completely willful ignorance crosses the line into aiding and abetting. I still can't get over the fact that Maria's body must have been in the Laurean house for a day before she was burned/buried.

[Pharlap]

I still can't get over the fact that Maria's body must have been in the Laurean house for a day before she was burned/buried.

So when did the hubby make the pit, the day he borrowed the shovel?

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't know how they will ever determine where she was or exactly her time of death. With the condition of the body, it would seem impossible to come up with such information. For all we know, Cesar kept her alive for a period of time and possibly overnight. (If his statement is partially true, he did keep her alive to go buy the bus ticket...at the very least.)

[btbsmith]

I don't know how they will ever determine where she was or exactly her time of death. With the condition of the body, it would seem impossible to come up with such information. For all we know, Cesar kept her alive for a period of time and possibly overnight. (If his statement is partially true, he did keep her alive to go buy the bus ticket...at the very least.)
We don't know if he was with her for the bus ticket. She could have bought on her own as part of the "plan" (if there was such a plan). LE says death was on 14th, but previously said it was the 15th. My guess is that they were basing it on Xtina's alibi for the party with statements which may have confused dates (unless there was a seperate party on the 15th, but I do not think so). Of course, if she was killed on the 14th, then what were Cesar and Xtina doing on the 15th? Alot of confusion on timeline from 14-16 Dec - Littledeer, did you ever post anything on the timeline stuff you were reviewing? Would be most interested in this period.

[btbsmith]

I never thought about it till now, but I have never lived in a house my WHOLE LIFE that had both a door from the HOUSE to the backyard and one from the GARAGE into the backyard. The only houses I have seen with both a garage-backyard door and house-backyard door were custom-built or a total remodel.
FYI - for several years some communities require a seperate door from the garage for fire/safety reasons. Locally, all homes built in the 80s-to-mid 90s had the doors and then not all in late 90s-early-200s, then I think they required them again in early 2000s.

[Pharlap]

FYI - for several years some communities require a seperate door from the garage for fire/safety reasons. Locally, all homes built in the 80s-to-mid 90s had the doors and then not all in late 90s-early-200s, then I think they required them again in early 2000s.

Outside door to garage is required here also.....:)

[golfmom]

I can't believe there hasn't been a photo of Christina released as of yet. You would think LE would want her photo out there for the public to come forward with any information regarding the case and her possible involvement.

[Ticamom]

I wonder how Xtina must feel today , confined to base, all eyes on her, feeling her alibi and stories shredding and poked full of holes, deathly afraid of being arrested any second, meanwhile POS is relaxing in the warm sunshine, drinking a cold Corona , getting reacquainted to old friends and relatives, laughing at how he got away with this and how he outsmarted both the USMC and LE. :furious:

I can only pray she flips on him bigtime.

I can't wait til he is caught and has to face the music. :behindbar

[Ticamom]

I can't believe there hasn't been a photo of Christina released as of yet. You would think LE would want her photo out there for the public to come forward with any information regarding the case and her possible involvement.

i know, golfmom ! In this day and age it is almost impossible not to find out about anyone on the web. We must be overlooking something if none of us have found her.

Where are the papparazzi when ya need 'em ? :mad:

[SeriouslySearching]

You would think that someone at those parties took photos, wouldn't you?! Either at the Christmas party she supposedly attended on base or the parties at their home?! (I would be most interested in seeing those!)

I guess we will have to wait on National Enquirer to "buy" a photo of her from someone now.

LE hasn't been smart at all by not releasing her picture. She could very well be identified with Cesar at other locations in the days before and after the murder which connect her to some of his suspicious activities.

[Mygirlsadie]

Oh and don't forget since he likes the ladies so much he probably has a little chica on his side keeping him company! ;)




I wonder how Xtina must feel today , confined to base, all eyes on her, feeling her alibi and stories shredding and poked full of holes, deathly afraid of being arrested any second, meanwhile POS is relaxing in the warm sunshine, drinking a cold Corona , getting reacquainted to old friends and relatives, laughing at how he got away with this and how he outsmarted both the USMC and LE. :furious:

I can only pray she flips on him bigtime.

I can't wait til he is caught and has to face the music. :behindbar

[Pharlap]

I wonder how Xtina must feel today , confined to base, all eyes on her, feeling her alibi and stories shredding and poked full of holes, deathly afraid of being arrested any second, meanwhile POS is relaxing in the warm sunshine, drinking a cold Corona , getting reacquainted to old friends and relatives, laughing at how he got away with this and how he outsmarted both the USMC and LE. :furious:

I can only pray she flips on him bigtime.

I can't wait til he is caught and has to face the music. :behindbar

The only problem I see with flipping on him, is if she was very involved with the plot to eliminate Maria.
If she is, she'd wouldn't want him to be found at all..
:waitasec:

[Mygirlsadie]

I wonder if LE or her Lawyers told her to delete her myspace,facebook, etc etc..because there would be a hunt out for her picture? I know if I deleted my myspace and my pic I posted here on the picture thread there is no other pic. of me on the web anywhere...

[SeriouslySearching]

Good point, Pharlap! Why help LE to drag him back and possibly give her up? She has a good thing going right now. Cesar and Christina's fight obviously wasn't a big deal since he keeps writing her love letters. I think it is wrong she keeps getting them tho. LE should be receiving those instead of her. She should never even see them, imo. Is she just biding her time now so she can finish her stint with the Marines and run to Mexico to meet up with Cesar? Probably. And if LE made a deal with her...nothing anyone can do about it if she does!

[Mygirlsadie]

On the 15th Christina and Cesar were sitting in their house trying to figure out what the h*ll to do... :rolleyes:




We don't know if he was with her for the bus ticket. She could have bought on her own as part of the "plan" (if there was such a plan). LE says death was on 14th, but previously said it was the 15th. My guess is that they were basing it on Xtina's alibi for the party with statements which may have confused dates (unless there was a seperate party on the 15th, but I do not think so). Of course, if she was killed on the 14th, then what were Cesar and Xtina doing on the 15th? Alot of confusion on timeline from 14-16 Dec - Littledeer, did you ever post anything on the timeline stuff you were reviewing? Would be most interested in this period.

[btbsmith]

OK, I just saw on another thread that Maria and Cesar used the SAME ATM!! What are the odds??? Can anyone confirm?

14 Dec ATM - I have only seen a grey and blurry pic that looks like Maria, but very fuzzy - anyone see more? Any evidence in her actions in the video that Cesar might have been with her? Was she looking over her shoulders, etc? Could be some truth in his story that he took her to the bus station. Still a very short timeline for the kill and clean-up.

However, a devil's advocate might note that one would only have to do minor clean-up in a 1-car garage that appeared to be FULL of junk. Assume blood in LR was likely trace amount from him walking in to clean himself up? Just would have to cover and hide her body, get rid of his clothes (not sure about those shoes), and keep wife out of garage - did not appear to be any wify sort of things in the garage. Devil's advocate also could say that the square paint-over in the garage was thought by Xtina to be a sample for her to approve the color for the LR - my wife and I have done this before.

Still he would have had to drag body out, dig hole, pull-down fence sections (were any already loose/down?), bury Maria, then set-up burn pit and let burn for hours, convince wife of need to start painting - all without wife knowing anything (???) Hmmmm... Of course the nosy neighbor did not note anything unnusual until reflecting on events after the police and media descended upon them.

[Pharlap]

Good point, Pharlap! Why help LE to drag him back and possibly give her up? She has a good thing going right now. Cesar and Christina's fight obviously wasn't a big deal since he keeps writing her love letters. I think it is wrong she keeps getting them tho. LE should be receiving those instead of her. She should never even see them, imo. Is she just biding her time now so she can finish her stint with the Marines and run to Mexico to meet up with Cesar? Probably. And if LE made a deal with her...nothing anyone can do about it if she does!


I'll put that into the mix...

[Atomic]

They are not intercepting her mail? OMG! Anyone know where she is receiving the letters, home address, parents house etc? Has LE released anything about the content? Not that it matters, she is probably keeping the REAL letters to herself!!

[calidreamin]

I can't believe there hasn't been a photo of Christina released as of yet. You would think LE would want her photo out there for the public to come forward with any information regarding the case and her possible involvement.

Exactly golfmom I can't believe it eitther, I said that just the other day.

[Seven]

So when did the hubby make the pit, the day he borrowed the shovel?

Probably ........ but then why would he need to borrow a shovel?
Did he not own a shovel after living there for 2 years?
Did he buy a shovel when he went to Lowes that day?
Did he go to Lowes before or after borrowing the shovel?
How many shovels did he need?
One for himself and one for .....?!:waitasec:

[Littledeer]

Littledeer, did you ever post anything on the timeline stuff you were reviewing? Would be most interested in this period.

Just got home from work and going to start it right now. I even cheated and worked on it at work! I have 3 1/2 legal size pages of dates with information for from 12/14 to 12/31 alone.

I am going to break it up per a suggestion from another poster as Post 12/14 and Pre 12/14.

Wish me luck. Hopefully, I have one part done by this evening posted for you all. And please forgive me before hand for what ever I miss!!

[golfmom]

Christina's Grandfather who passed away in '07

Name: Daniel E Shifflet & Company Lpa
Address: 4947 Prspct Uppr Sndsky Prospect, OH 43342
Phone Number: 740-382-2611
Specialties: Personal Injury & Property Damage Law
Bankruptcy Law

[Tom'sGirl]

OK, I just saw on another thread that Maria and Cesar used the SAME ATM!! What are the odds??? Can anyone confirm?


Cesar used the Marine Federal Credit Union ATM, Maria was using a BofA ATM!

[btbsmith]

Cesar used the Marine Federal Credit Union ATM, Maria was using a BofA ATM!
Thanks!

[SeriouslySearching]

I wish they would reconvene the GJ to determine if they have enough to charge Christina in this case. Since Cesar seemingly is going to walk on the DP, I hate the thought that Christina could possibly be involved with this murder and walk for giving LE false information and covering for him to allow his escape. It makes me ill to think this is what is going on.

WHERE is the justice for Maria and her unborn child?!

[golfmom]

I wish they would reconvene the GJ to determine if they have enough to charge Christina in this case. Since Cesar seemingly is going to walk on the DP, I hate the thought that Christina could possibly be involved with this murder and walk for giving LE false information and covering for him to allow his escape. It makes me ill to think this is what is going on.

WHERE is the justice for Maria and her unborn child?!

The more I've puzzled over this case, the more convinced I've become that she was involved. The only possible explanation I can come up with as to why LE hasn't arrested her, is that they want her as a cooperative witness when it comes time for a trial. Although, it's beyond me why they'd need her ... the evidence that CL killed Maria is overwhelming.

[SeriouslySearching]

Or LE boxed themselves into a corner intially in regards to Christina.

[Ticamom]

Or LE boxed themselves into a corner intially in regards to Christina.

Sadly,that's what i am afraid of. I wish LE could arrest Xtina and use her to draw POS out of hiding. If he says he loves her and their daughter so much and misses them and all, maybe LE could use Xtina as a means of getting to him ?

Although I wouldn't be surprised if he already is on the lookout for Xtina's replacement in Guadalajara.......in which case he won't give a rip about her being arrested and taking his place.

I just want justice for Maria and her baby.:mad:

[btbsmith]

OK, not that I believe it, but here's a thought...

At least one source noted two seperate bus tic purchases (14th by Laurean and 15th by Maria). Likely this was a goof in the report, but if there were two tics...

What if Xtina was killer (with or w/o CL) and she planned to flee on 15th, but hubby said I took care of it only to flee himself and take blame away from Xtina when things got hot in Jan. ?

[KR2tonenow]

Or LE boxed themselves into a corner intially in regards to Christina.

They definitely had to, to make a deal. If he is ever found, she will have to testify, we can only hope!

[Ticamom]

Does anyone know if the Enquirer has written anything about this case ? The reason I ask is because if anyone could find a photo of Xtina it is them. I also ask this because we don't get the Enquirer down here so that is why I am curious.


I hope someone gets Xtina's face out in the news soon. Give Greta or Nancy a shot at interrogating her... :bang:

[Littledeer]

Tica:

I don't know about the Enquirer, but will buy one today and look through it. I know they did one for DP with one of his friends.

I am beginning to think the reason we haven't found a pic or hear anything about Christina, is because her father has squealched everything. He does have the power and the means, IMO.

[Ticamom]

Tica:

I don't know about the Enquirer, but will buy one today and look through it. I know they did one for DP with one of his friends.

I am beginning to think the reason we haven't found a pic or hear anything about Christina, is because her father has squealched everything. He does have the power and the means, IMO.

Really ? What have you heard about Xtina's father ? I didn't know her was wealthy and powerful. Please tell me about him .

[Littledeer]

Tica:

I was alluding that Christina's father is a "active military person".

[Jolynna]

Tica:

I don't know about the Enquirer, but will buy one today and look through it. I know they did one for DP with one of his friends.

I am beginning to think the reason we haven't found a pic or hear anything about Christina, is because her father has squealched everything. He does have the power and the means, IMO.

I think Christina is lawyered up and her attorney is doing his job.

As I said before, the media can't publish pictures of private people against their expressed wishes. If someone finds a previously published picture, that would be fair game.

My opinion.

[Mygirlsadie]

Yeah I don't remember hearing her dad being any big shot type. I heard her grandpa was a lawyer but he died...

[KR2tonenow]

I think Christina is lawyered up and her attorney is doing his job.

As I said before, the media can't publish pictures of private people against their expressed wishes. If someone finds a previously published picture, that would be fair game.

My opinion.

There has to be a picture somewhere:confused:

[Tom'sGirl]

Tica:

I was alluding that Christina's father is a "active military person".
Are you confusing Christina's father with Maria's father who's a Reserve AF Master Sargeant?

[Littledeer]

Are you confusing Christina's father with Maria's father who's a Reserve AF Master Sargeant?

Had to relog when I saw this.............yep I did. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was involved with Stacy, and just not thinking when I jumped in here and posted. SO SORRY...................for the confusion!!!

Logging back out to keep cleaning so hubby doesn't yell! LOL

[btbsmith]

... the media can't publish pictures of private people against their expressed wishes. If someone finds a previously published picture, that would be fair game.
So, wouldn't a DMV license photo be fair game? Somehow there is a bit of a close-down on her pics. Surely *someone* can access DMV photos...:waitasec:

[KR2tonenow]

So, wouldn't a DMV license photo be fair game? Somehow there is a bit of a close-down on her pics. Surely *someone* can access DMV photos...:waitasec:

I think that is considered confidential. Seems to me the media has been blocked from that. Otherwise, that's a perfect place to get it.

Grrrrr, frustrating to say the least. I tried to look on reunion.com in Vandalia, OH and came up empty.:confused:

[Tom'sGirl]

I think that is considered confidential. Seems to me the media has been blocked from that. Otherwise, that's a perfect place to get it.

Grrrrr, frustrating to say the least. I tried to look on reunion.com in Vandalia, OH and came up empty.:confused:
She went to school here..............
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1936543&postcount=10

[SeriouslySearching]

So, wouldn't a DMV license photo be fair game? Somehow there is a bit of a close-down on her pics. Surely *someone* can access DMV photos...:waitasec:Due to the privacy act, it is illegal to access DMV photos for anyone except Law Enforcement agencies and the state agencies responsible for licensing.

[SeriouslySearching]

She went to school here..............
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1936543&postcount=10Great!! Someone needs to find "friends" on myspace, facebook, or other places who would have access to old yearbook photos from 2001 and before!! Elgin High School in Marion, OH shouldn't be that difficult to track down!

[JDB]

Gee last time I checked. The LE does not release a Pic of someone unless they have a reason to.Since this happened on the 11th over two weeks ago I gues they have no cause to realease the pic. But I am sure they showed her picture to the guy at the bus station.Guess he said it was not her.

[Ticamom]

It is SO FRUSTRATING not to have a photo of XTINA after all these searches ! GRRRRR..... :furious:

[Tom'sGirl]

Gee last time I checked. The LE does not release a Pic of someone unless they have a reason to.Since this happened on the 11th over two weeks ago I gues they have no cause to realease the pic. But I am sure they showed her picture to the guy at the bus station.Guess he said it was not her.
Not only the bus clerk, but The Early Show knew what she looked like, but blurred the photos as she had/has not been implicated.
http://i26.tinypic.com/oa13it.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/k0rl6u.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2hwpk5l.jpg
In the event she is ever charged or implicated, the photos will surface for sure.

[JDB]

Not only the bus clerk, but The Early Show knew what she looked like, but blurred the photos as she had/has not been implicated.
http://i26.tinypic.com/oa13it.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/k0rl6u.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2hwpk5l.jpg
In the event she is ever charged or implicated, the photos will surface for sure.

Thanks TG Just proves my point. They do not have anything on her yet.

[Atomic]

I live about an hour and a half from Jacksonville. I wonder what my chances are of...getting a pic of her out somewhere...hell everybody has to go to walmart sometime dont they?
Probably illegal. Of course, if you can kill people and bury them in your yard there, whats a little bit of bird watching?

[Tom'sGirl]

I live about an hour and a half from Jacksonville. I wonder what my chances are of...getting a pic of her out somewhere...hell everybody has to go to walmart sometime dont they?
Probably illegal. Of course, if you can kill people and bury them in your yard there, whats a little bit of bird watching?
LOL, if you don't know what she looks like, how would you take photos of her :)

[Atomic]

LOL, if you don't know what she looks like, how would you take photos of her :)

SSHHH! Thats MY line to the cops. hehe

Ive seen enough, all thats been blurred out is her grill, and Im sure she is either holed up with her sister or some other assorted pack of wolves.

[Mygirlsadie]

Even through the blur you can tell she resembles her sister. I think she is more heavy set though. And CL don't look too thrilled to be next to his wifey's side in any of the pics.. how sad. o/t.. has anyone heard yet about the DNA of the baby? I wonder if they know by now and are just keeping it quiet? Also if it does turn out to be CL's baby I wonder if the guilt of killing his own baby girl will haunt him for the rest of his sorry life?!




Not only the bus clerk, but The Early Show knew what she looked like, but blurred the photos as she had/has not been implicated.
http://i26.tinypic.com/oa13it.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/k0rl6u.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2hwpk5l.jpg
In the event she is ever charged or implicated, the photos will surface for sure.

[Pharlap]

Even through the blur you can tell she resembles her sister. I think she is more heavy set though. And CL don't look too thrilled to be next to his wifey's side in any of the pics.. how sad. o/t.. has anyone heard yet about the DNA of the baby? I wonder if they know by now and are just keeping it quiet? Also if it does turn out to be CL's baby I wonder if the guilt of killing his own baby girl will haunt him for the rest of his sorry life?!

Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1947418#post1947418)
Not only the bus clerk, but The Early Show knew what she looked like, but blurred the photos as she had/has not been implicated.
http://i26.tinypic.com/oa13it.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/k0rl6u.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2hwpk5l.jpg
In the event she is ever charged or implicated, the photos will surface for sure.


Tks for the pic's.....How in the world did you find them?
As for the hubby, my gut feeling he had no feelings for the unborn child.
It won't bother him a bit, sad to say.
Anyone that not only kills, but burns them also. :sick:

[lkd-ga]

Even through the blur you can tell she resembles her sister. I think she is more heavy set though. And CL don't look too thrilled to be next to his wifey's side in any of the pics.. how sad. o/t.. has anyone heard yet about the DNA of the baby? I wonder if they know by now and are just keeping it quiet? Also if it does turn out to be CL's baby I wonder if the guilt of killing his own baby girl will haunt him for the rest of his sorry life?!


I cannot open the link. Can someone who is computer literate re-post.
My system will not let me open and I am dying to see her picture.

[Mygirlsadie]

I couldn't open the link either just by clicking on it so I had to copy & paste it up in my google search bar.. Or click & drag it up there!




I cannot open the link. Can someone who is computer literate re-post.
My system will not let me open and I am dying to see her picture.

[lkd-ga]

I couldn't open the link either just by clicking on it so I had to copy & paste it up in my google search bar.. Or click & drag it up there!

I think it is the security on my computer. Cannot get around it.

[Littledeer]

IMO, it looks like Christina is pregnant in the first and second pictures. If so, and we know the baby is 18 months old now, then I am thinking those pics are about 2 years old.

[Mygirlsadie]

Yeah you can see that she is preg.. her big man like hands up against his chest show me that she is not a 'small' lady even not being preg. though.

[Littledeer]

mygirl:

I also agree that she is what I would call "big muscled" for a female. Chunky would be the most apt description. The size of her arms are in apportion with her "regular" weight, IMO.

Her pics don't show any "fingernails", so she wasn't one to file and put on nail polish.

[STEADFAST]

mygirl:

I also agree that she is what I would call "big muscled" for a female. Chunky would be the most apt description. The size of her arms are in apportion with her "regular" weight, IMO.

Her pics don't show any "fingernails", so she wasn't one to file and put on nail polish.

She looked pretty "squashy" in the arms for a Marine. Now that she's been activated, I see lots of PT in her future. I hope it takes place in the exercise yard at a brig.

[Littledeer]

:):) Steadfast!!

Can I be the one that says HUP ONE TWO THREE, HUP ONE TWO THREE??

hit the ground...........100 push ups........

now, tell me where Cesar is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mygirlsadie]

Ahahaha you guys are crazy! It's not that I would say she looks obese or anything but just a big healthy girl... Not the dainty feminine type.. Maria was very athletic if you looked at alot of her pics she was into all kinds of sports yet to me she still looked very 'girly'..

[Littledeer]

It was Maria's blond hair and the smile that made her look "girly", it distracted away from her muscular build IMO.

Also, the main picture we have been seeing is where she is out of uniform. But in the pics where she is in uniform, she does also look on the athletic side. Christina just looks "big" in her pics.

[lkd-ga]

Someone please post pictures. I cannot disable my security to see them.
I am at work.

[Littledeer]

lkd:

We are not allowed to post pictures anymore with the server problems. :(

We can only put the link up to them. Do you have a My Pic program? You should if you have Windows? I would copy the link and paste it to the My Pictures and then open from there.