View Full Version : Why would Christina help Cesar?
s_finch
01-20-2008, 09:39 PM
No doubt Christina would have hated Maria, the wife most always hates the other woman (even in a rape situation). But that doesn't drive most women to aid and abet a murdering husband. Supposing that in one way or another Christian was involved in the murder or cover up, what would be her reason for doing so?
If she thought Maria was lying and therefore believe Cesar's tale of innocense there would be no reason to kill Maria and no reason to help cover up her murder BECAUSE if Maria was lying and Cesar killed her anyway then he is a cold blooded murderer and why protect him?????
If Maria was telling the truth about the rape/pregnancy, then why would Christina help Cesar????
Could Cesar have convinced Christina that Maria's death was accidental and/or was the result of self-defense on Cesar's part (although that would be a mighty big tale to swallow) and convinced Christina that no one would believe him it was self-defense and therefore Christina helped with cover up? Unless Christina has no conscience, this is the most likely scenario I think she'd buy into. If Christina never saw the body and didn't know the extent of Maria's injuries then maybe she could have been convinced of this.
Love is blind and "hell hath no fury..." but I still can't see helping my hubby if he killed his victim/lover.
Which leads me to wonder if Cesar and Christina plan to reunite later. Do you suppose she believes that eventually the hunt for Cesar will end, the case will be forgotten and Christina will be able to quietly slip off to meet up with him?
MysteryAddict
01-20-2008, 09:53 PM
No doubt Christina would have hated Maria, the wife most always hates the other woman (even in a rape situation). But that doesn't drive most women to aid and abet a murdering husband. Supposing that in one way or another Christian was involved in the murder or cover up, what would be her reason for doing so?
If she thought Maria was lying and therefore believe Cesar's tale of innocense there would be no reason to kill Maria and no reason to help cover up her murder BECAUSE if Maria was lying and Cesar killed her anyway then he is a cold blooded murderer and why protect him?????
If Maria was telling the truth about the rape/pregnancy, then why would Christina help Cesar????
Could Cesar have convinced Christina that Maria's death was accidental and/or was the result of self-defense on Cesar's part (although that would be a mighty big tale to swallow) and convinced Christina that no one would believe him it was self-defense and therefore Christina helped with cover up? Unless Christina has no conscience, this is the most likely scenario I think she'd buy into. If Christina never saw the body and didn't know the extent of Maria's injuries then maybe she could have been convinced of this.
Love is blind and "hell hath no fury..." but I still can't see helping my hubby if he killed his victim/lover.
Which leads me to wonder if Cesar and Christina plan to reunite later. Do you suppose she believes that eventually the hunt for Cesar will end, the case will be forgotten and Christina will be able to quietly slip off to meet up with him?
No- I don't suppose that Christina would slip away to reunite with
dearest hubby,
but here is my shocking thought--------
If Cesar is never found I will suspect that our jealous wifey,
Christina may just have killed the POS and gotten away with it !
s_finch
01-20-2008, 09:54 PM
No- I don't suppose that Christina would slip away to reunite with
dearest hubby,
but here is my shocking thought--------
If Cesar is never found I will suspect that our jealous wifey,
Christina may just have killed the POS and gotten away with it !
Just so happens I suggested that days ago. Great minds and all that....:) Maybe she got revenge on both of them.
s_finch
01-20-2008, 09:57 PM
Another thought. If Christina was in on the murder, why not flee with Cesar? Unless there was no way she'd be able to cross into Mexico successfully and blend in there. If she was in on the actual murder, then she and Cesar have constructed a pretty tight alibi for her,,,,,unless he's found. If he's found alive, he may talk. If he's found dead, then she's the number one suspect in either one or two homocides.
Littledeer
01-20-2008, 11:50 PM
Now that is a WOW possibility.
Christina killing her own husband in retaliation for lying to her that he had no relatons with Maria.
Okay, given that thougt. IIRC, neighbor saw Cesar that morining @ 6:30 outside, but doesn't see his vehicle in driveway @ 8:00. No mention of between those times.
So Christina says to Cesar, honey, let's just run away and he agrees. And then.......
You know, it's just so not possible for me. WHERE WAS THEIR DAUGHTER??? I have yet to hear anything about where their daughter was at any given time so far.
USMCWife
01-21-2008, 12:05 AM
Now that is a WOW possibility.
Christina killing her own husband in retaliation for lying to her that he had no relatons with Maria.
Okay, given that thougt. IIRC, neighbor saw Cesar that morining @ 6:30 outside, but doesn't see his vehicle in driveway @ 8:00. No mention of between those times.
So Christina says to Cesar, honey, let's just run away and he agrees. And then.......
You know, it's just so not possible for me. WHERE WAS THEIR DAUGHTER??? I have yet to hear anything about where their daughter was at any given time so far.
These unit holiday parties are usually family affairs. In fact, more single Marines are likely to skip out on them than the family guys. They usually have "Santa Claus" there and gifts for the kids and a buffet dinner.
If his wife was once part of the same unit but got transferred due to marrying Laurean (husbands and wives can't work in the same unit), then she might still have known lots of people in the unit and was probably having a good time seeing old faces again and catching up. The daughter was probably at the holiday party running around with all the other kids.
philamena
01-21-2008, 12:08 AM
I can name 2 possible reasons why she would help him.
1- He abuses her and she always does what he tells her to do..... or else.
2- She doesn't want to loose him.
SeriouslySearching
01-21-2008, 07:12 AM
No- I don't suppose that Christina would slip away to reunite with
dearest hubby,
but here is my shocking thought--------
If Cesar is never found I will suspect that our jealous wifey,
Christina may just have killed the POS and gotten away with it !That is what I have been saying for awhile!! She could be responsible for both.
She COULD have helped him plan the "Maria taking off" scenario and murder, kill Maria, bury her, clean up the evidence, then she turned her aggression on the husband AFTER she talked him into writing the "notes" and planning HIS "getaway". (Btw~I think the "terms and conditions" note discussed in the search warrant was Cesar laying out the way he would turn himself in.)
They found his truck approximately two hours away. That would be a four hour trip for her, right? If her 4:00am story is true (neighbor could be mistaken on the day), it puts her back in time to go to the base to give them the confession and start the ball rolling against Cesar...while she is thinking that she is in the clear. (She would have had help to leave the truck and get rid of Cesar. Was she having an affair perhaps?!)
Vegas Bride
01-21-2008, 11:04 AM
Why would Christina help Cesar?
Unfortunatly, history has shown us that many women choose to help their spouse/SO over doing "the right thing"
How many times does a mother turn her back on her own child being abused, even to the point of being killed, and the mother still remains with the abuser!
IMO Christina viewed Maria as the root of any problems going on. Maria being pregnant was a big problem and everything would be much better if "the problem" would just go away.
I believe Christina would have helped her husband because she wanted things to get back to normal, it would be better for them if the problem could just be erased. It would be easier for her to believe her husband really did not rape a woman, much better to see the accuser as someone who is trying to ruin your life. Did Christina know about the dna testing to be done after the baby's birth? Did she know deep down that it was a possibility she'd be forced to see that her husband did in fact have sex with the enemy? Would it be better if something could be done before being forced to seeing the truth? Christina has a baby of her own, what would happen to them if her husband was found to be the father of Marias baby?
No, much better for them all if the enemy could just be erased.
VB
That is what I have been saying for awhile!! She could be responsible for both.
She COULD have helped him plan the "Maria taking off" scenario and murder, kill Maria, bury her, clean up the evidence, then she turned her aggression on the husband AFTER she talked him into writing the "notes" and planning HIS "getaway". (Btw~I think the "terms and conditions" note discussed in the search warrant was Cesar laying out the way he would turn himself in.)
They found his truck approximately two hours away. That would be a four hour trip for her, right? If her 4:00am story is true (neighbor could be mistaken on the day), it puts her back in time to go to the base to give them the confession and start the ball rolling against Cesar...while she is thinking that she is in the clear. (She would have had help to leave the truck and get rid of Cesar. Was she having an affair perhaps?!)
There is a major problem with people saying maybe christina did them both in.
1 How did the truck get to Durham?
2 We have a witness that someone here on the board knows. Seeing CL around Durham on that Sat.
kelly london
01-21-2008, 12:04 PM
3. who sent the letters from texas to her?
SeriouslySearching
01-21-2008, 01:49 PM
1. Christina and Cesar took the truck to drop it off together or she had help in leaving the truck.
2. I don't have an explanation for that one unless the person who helped her looked like Cesar or they saw him before the truck was dropped off.
3. She set it up with a fellow Marine going home for the Holidays perhaps or maybe family.
1. Christina and Cesar took the truck to drop it off together or she had help in leaving the truck.
2. I don't have an explanation for that one unless the person who helped her looked like Cesar or they saw him before the truck was dropped off.
3. She set it up with a fellow Marine going home for the Holidays perhaps or maybe family.
1 Not possibleChristina as of Friday morning on the 11th was withe eiter the USMC or the LE.
SeriouslySearching
01-21-2008, 01:56 PM
She had plenty of time to drop the truck off and be back to the base by 9:00am. So why not? Remember, she was the one who dropped the timeline of him leaving at 4:00am. Who is to say it is accurate in any way? Only Christina.
She had plenty of time to drop the truck off and be back to the base by 9:00am. So why not? Remember, she was the one who dropped the timeline of him leaving at 4:00am. Who is to say it is accurate in any way? Only Christina.
The neighbor saw the truck at 6:30 AM
SeriouslySearching
01-21-2008, 02:02 PM
If the neighbor's account is accurate. If LE thought it was...I would have assumed they already had it by the time he was doing all the interviews...and to my knowledge...they had not taken his statement.
If the neighbor's account is accurate. If LE thought it was...I would assume they already had it by the time he was doing all the interviews...and to my knowledge...they had not taken his statement.
Would have had what the truck? They put out a BOL right after Christina gave them the note.
SeriouslySearching
01-21-2008, 02:06 PM
I just think A LOT happened between the morning of the 10th and the morning of the 11th. Christina had 24 hours to do what she was going to do to set this all up to try to save her own skin if she had something to do with it.
I just think A LOT happened between the morning of the 10th and the morning of the 11th. Christina had 24 hours to do what she was going to do to set this all up to try to save her own skin if she had something to do with it.
Or Christina was scared for her own life after CL told her what he did. Only felt safe after he left.
Mygirlsadie
01-21-2008, 02:11 PM
Christina would help POS because if previous posts were correct with their info. she was an extremely jealous wife. POS was hers! Anybody got in the way of that and she would do what it took to get rid of that person. Too bad POS didn't think as highly of his own wife.. I hope she realizes now that Gomer wasn't worth it!
the original tez
01-21-2008, 02:58 PM
I just think A LOT happened between the morning of the 10th and the morning of the 11th. Christina had 24 hours to do what she was going to do to set this all up to try to save her own skin if she had something to do with it.
I think they had a plan to meet up later. I think she is involved, not just after the fact, but involved in the murder. Hopefully, LE will catch him and we will find out the facts. Personally, I think she's as guilty as he is.
SeriouslySearching
01-21-2008, 04:58 PM
It will make it interesting to hear his side of the story. Will he turn on her or keep saying it was suicide now?! She beat herself to death with a crowbar might be a bit difficult as a defense tho.
Blondieskatz
01-21-2008, 05:07 PM
No- I don't suppose that Christina would slip away to reunite with
dearest hubby,
but here is my shocking thought--------
If Cesar is never found I will suspect that our jealous wifey,
Christina may just have killed the POS and gotten away with it !
Wouldn't be such a big loss. IMO
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