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Doyle
03-17-2004, 04:46 AM
When Peggy Tepolt returned from an appointment early Monday morning, she said it was clear someone had forced entry into her home. But the intruders appear to have only taken one thing -- her husband.
http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/14518

choirboy
04-16-2004, 10:31 PM
Ira is no longer missing; his body was found in the East Verde River on April 18. What information the police have released is in the Payson Roundup. He was my brother.

seamless
04-16-2004, 11:11 PM
I am so sorry to hear that Choirboy. I can't begin to imagine how you must feel. Please know that I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

BirdieBoo
04-16-2004, 11:12 PM
I'm so sorry Choirboy

Juliana
04-17-2004, 09:15 AM
Choirboy,
I am so sorry you and your family are going through this nightmare. Please know that you are in the thoughts and prayers of so many people.

Love_Mama
04-17-2004, 09:20 AM
Ira is no longer missing; his body was found in the East Verde River on April 18. What information the police have released is in the Payson Roundup. He was my brother.

Choirboy, I too am so terribly sorry. I see you haven't posted here before and I hope we will hear from you again. This is an awful tragedy for your family and hopefully you might want to share your feeling's here with us.
Hope you will accept this invitation.

xxxxxxxxxxxxoooo
mama

Doyle
04-17-2004, 10:34 AM
The Payson Police Department and the Gila County Sheriff's Office are following what they call "substantial leads" in the murder of 56-year-old Payson resident, Ira Eastman.

A crime scene technician from the Department of Public Safety lab dusted for fingerprints at Ira Eastman's home on Luke Street last week. Payson Police Lt. Don Engler said investigators are piecing together the physical evidence and conducting interviews to get the the bottom of who murdered the 56-year-old.

"We haven't made any arrests," Payson Police Lt. Don Engler said, "but we have been working quite a few good leads that have allowed us to focus our investigation."

Engler confirmed that Eastman was shot to death prior to being dumped into the East Verde River off Houston Mesa Road.

http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/archive/story/14588

choirboy
04-17-2004, 07:03 PM
Thanks to you all for your kind thoughts. I found this forum while searching for news reports on my brother. I'll post links to all the reports I have to date below.

I'm generally able to keep the investigation and feelings of personal loss separate, so I don't mind discussing either. I am, of course, interested in seeing the person or persons responsible for Ira's death caught and kept from harming anyone else. Even more important, I want people to know what kind of person my brother was, and to celebrate the life of a good, kind and gentle man.

In the coming weeks I'll be putting something together on my personal website, and I'll provide a link for anyone who's interested.

Michael

http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/14518

http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/14588

http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/14693

http://www.newportnewstimes.com/articles/2004/03/19/news/news14.txt

http://www.newportnewstimes.com/articles/2004/04/09/news/news08.txt

http://www.fox11az.com/news/state/stories/KMSB_state_payson_031604.90f0444b.html

Juliana
04-17-2004, 07:48 PM
Choirboy,
Thank you for posting the links. I read the articles, and am glad the LE has leads which will hopefully lead to the arrest of the person(s) responsible. Your brother sounds like a very interesting and kind person. Please keep us posted.

choirboy
04-18-2004, 03:39 AM
There will be more to come, but for now it's just Ira's name and a picture, the last one taken of him:

http://dialoregon.net/newport/family/ira/

I have a number of pictures, gathered and scanned for what turned out to be a wonderful slide show for his Celebration of Life. I'll have to sort it down to a reasonable number of kilobytes, though.

gardenmom
04-18-2004, 11:36 AM
choirboy,
I have read all the links and it sounds like they took him with only the intent to kill him. Was anything taken? Was his wallet missing? If it was maybe someone took him to make him withdrawal money, but I really don't get that impression. What about his stepsons? Did they get along? Were they possible of setting this up? The wife? Did she have anything to gain by getting rid of him? I hope my questions don't upset you, but I'm sure they have been asked already. I am so sorry for your loss. I hope they find who did this to your brother.

choirboy
04-18-2004, 06:12 PM
My understanding was that nothing was missing from the house. This happened between 6 and 7 am and his glasses were left on the nightstand, so I doubt that he was even dressed. So far as questions about the family go, of course these are things the police must look into, but I have no such suspicions and prefer not to go there. It doesn't unduly distress me that such questions must be asked; it's just that I have no desire for such thoughts to occupy my mind.

I expect that it may take some time for the Payson PD and Gila County SO to work the case to a conclusion. I hope that the crime scene was handled well, and that they have tenacious investigators.

My main focus, of course, is on taking care of the family and honoring the life and legacy of my brother.

Love_Mama
04-19-2004, 09:49 PM
Ira is no longer missing; his body was found in the East Verde River on April 18. What information the police have released is in the Payson Roundup. He was my brother.

I think you just made an ordinary mistake........I do it all the time. I think he was found In March...........Easy to do. Would you please keep us up-dated.............he sound's like a wonderful person, a wonderful brother.
I think someone in the family is involved. What are your thought's about this?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxoooooooo
m,ama

choirboy
04-19-2004, 10:46 PM
Yes, you're correct, Ira's body was found on March 18, three days after he disappeared.

It is highly likely that someone known to the family was involved. I do not personally believe that any family member was involved; however the police are investigating that, as they should.

I will post any new information as it becomes available, as well as more about Ira's life, as I have time. Right now I'm a little busy writing Thank-yous to everyone. We are blessed to have the love and support of many people in both communities.

choirboy
04-20-2004, 02:25 AM
I've added two more pictures (large files) and improved the formatting:

http://dialoregon.net/newport/family/ira/

More pages to come.

Juliana
04-20-2004, 06:54 PM
I've added two more pictures (large files) and improved the formatting:

http://dialoregon.net/newport/family/ira/

More pages to come.


The picture of Ira as a young child brought tears to my eyes. What a wonderful picture. Reminds us he is someone's child. We all start out the same way, as pure, innocent children. What causes some to go so bad that they could take another life?

Love_Mama
04-20-2004, 10:01 PM
Choirboy, Ira's brother ?????...........for some crazy there is something you don't want to tell us . This was not a stranger but a family killer or friend of the family. Hey, I live in La Jolla, CA, don's care who knows! In a forum like Webseuths we're pretty much in the open. This Forum like this people are all very honest. Dosn't make any difference to me. I'm known all over where I live.............. Your just post here in Websleuth's , who is the heck do you think may have killed your brother??????????
If you want some help from us, then let us know where you coming from!

Edited to add. Nobody walk's into someone's house ........put's them in their car........and goes' out and shoot's them . UNLESS they a have a reason to.
DUH!~
Beside's you Choirboy.........who are his other brothers?


xxxxxxxxxo
mama

choirboy
04-21-2004, 12:43 AM
Yes, I'm Ira Eastman's little brother. I'm quoted in one of the news accounts for which I provided a link. I also provided a link to a page on my personal website. If I'm trying to hide, I'm not very good at it.

As I noted in an earlier post, I ran across this site while doing a search for news reports on my brother, and decided to update the original post that said he was missing. There seemed to be some interest in who Ira was, which I tried to oblige.

This is not a cold case. I'm not interested in interfering with an ongoing investigation, nor engaging in speculation based on third hand information. I've already heard enough wild rumors.

choirboy
04-21-2004, 01:03 AM
The picture of Ira as a young child brought tears to my eyes. What a wonderful picture. Reminds us he is someone's child. We all start out the same way, as pure, innocent children. What causes some to go so bad that they could take another life?

We put together more than 70 photos of Ira, gathered from family and friends, of his childhood, his years in community theater, his children and the last, very happy years of his life. It all went into a powerpoint-type slide show that was then recorded on a DVD, with The Rainbow Connection as soundtrack. We used it at the Memorial Service, and at a later gathering. It became a beautiful thing, beyond my expectations.

The words from Amour de Mi Alma ...

For you I was born, for you I live,
For you I must die, and for you
I give my last breath.

... next to his childhood picture, tell me that life has meaning.

I will be adding more of the pictures, as I am able. I'm glad they have meaning for you.

Love_Mama
04-21-2004, 09:39 AM
Yes, I'm Ira Eastman's little brother. I'm quoted in one of the news accounts for which I provided a link. I also provided a link to a page on my personal website. If I'm trying to hide, I'm not very good at it.

As I noted in an earlier post, I ran across this site while doing a search for news reports on my brother, and decided to update the original post that said he was missing. There seemed to be some interest in who Ira was, which I tried to oblige.

This is not a cold case. I'm not interested in interfering with an ongoing investigation, nor engaging in speculation based on third hand information. I've already heard enough wild rumors.

I didn't mean to sound so hard choirboy......It's just that I can't find too much new's about what's going on in the investigation, it is a small town, and possibly LE are just keeping thing's quiet. That happen's all the time.
Let me ask you one thing. Do you think that LE (law enforcement) may have any suspects? Did you're brother have a will that you know of? Don't have to answer unless you want to. I'm looking for motive...........
xxxxxxxxo
mama

choirboy
04-21-2004, 10:58 PM
Well, don't feel alone. The Payson PD never returned my call. My brother's widow has to get her information from the papers, because they know things before she does. I do understand that investigators keep a lot of information under wraps, because it's just those details that may trip up the killer(s) and break the case. That's one reason I bite my tongue when I feel like they're not telling us anything.

I wish I knew if the police had a real suspect. Certainly they hoped the person arrested for having owned the gun previously might know something, and maybe he does. He could be involved, or he might not.

I don't know if my brother had a will, but I'm pretty sure he didn't have much to will to anyone. His wife will likely have to sell the house. They had a business with a partner, but it will be a struggle to keep it going without Ira. Motive -- yeah, I'd like to know too.

Ghostwheel
04-22-2004, 12:31 AM
Where was his wife going so early? It makes me wonder if someone knew she was going somewhere so early, and that he would be alone.

choirboy
04-22-2004, 02:00 AM
She was going to exercise class, one of the few times they were apart. Yes, I think it's logical to think the killer(s) might have known this.

johnny
04-22-2004, 10:57 AM
What type of business? Who was his partner?

choirboy
04-22-2004, 11:23 AM
A custom cabinet business called "Cabinets, Doors & Dreams". I actually don't know the name of their partner, though I probably met him at the memorial service.

Love_Mama
05-05-2004, 08:37 AM
From:
http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/localnews/story/15030

xxxxxxxxxo
mama

Man makes false claims in murder case
By Kelly Crowley, Roundup staff reporter

Tuesday, May 4, 2004

The Payson Police Department arrested a man for aggravated assault last week who claimed to have information about the March murder of Ira Eastman.

"We had an aggravated assault in which our suspect claimed he had information about our homicide case," Police Sgt. Rod Mamero said.

According to Payson Police Lt. Don Engler, at around 8 p.m., April 26, someone alerted Mamero to an assault that had just occurred at the 1100 block of South McLane.

"Sgt. Mamero responded and determined there had been an aggravated assault, possibly with a baseball bat," Engler said. "It had also been reported that one of the suspects had a gun."

Mamero said a 27-year-old man had been choked and hit with a baseball bat.

Officers searched for the suspect, who was reportedly driving a white Chevrolet Cavalier.

Through interviews, officers determined that one of the parties involved in the assault was 33-year-old Jared Olsen.

Mamero parked near Olsen's home on Glade Lane to see if there was any activity when a report of a prowler on Airport Road came over the radio.

"The other officers were busy with an incorrigible juvenile call and our victim, who had been taken to the ER," Mamero said. "On my way to the other call, I saw (Olsen). I stopped him and spoke to him."

Deputies from the Gila County Sheriff's Office assisted with other calls the police could not get to. Mamero said it was at that point that Olsen claimed he had information about the kidnapping and murder of Eastman.

Eastman was murdered in March after being taken from his home. The Eastman case is still open and no arrests have been made directly related to the homicide.

Police detectives were called out to question Olsen, but according to Engler, the information "did not pan out." He declined to elaborate on the nature of the information.

Olsen was charged with aggravated assault and booked into the Gila County jail.

The victim was treated for his injuries and later released.

Engler said the assault investigation is ongoing.

choirboy
05-05-2004, 11:33 AM
Well .... "curiouser and curiouser," as they say ...

Babcat
05-05-2004, 04:24 PM
I found it highly suspicious that someone would be "returning from an appointment" before 7am in the morning. Another article then said his wife was at the gym and made no mention of it being an appointment. Another then said she was running an errand. Hmmm. If she was indeed at the gym at this "butt crack of dawn" hour, how long had she been attending regularly this early in the AM at the time of her husband's disappearance? Was this a relatively recent "class" she'd begun taking at the gym or had she done this for some time?

The only promising suspect-like person they have mentioned can be linked to her sons, and obviously has a prior felony conviction because he can't own a gun.

It is no mystery to me why they aren't keeping his wife updated on the investigation.

Whoever did this wanted this man dead and wanted nothing else. He had a single deadly gunshot in his head. No mention of evidence of torture... anyone wanting information from the man would have taken measures to get that info... such as gunshot wounds to his kneecaps. He had nothing they wanted but his life.

So... who benefits if he is dead?

johnny
05-05-2004, 05:41 PM
Remember his business partner? Who gained in the business?


A custom cabinet business called "Cabinets, Doors & Dreams". I actually don't know the name of their partner, though I probably met him at the memorial service.
__________________
http://dialoregon.net/newport/family/ira/

Babcat
05-06-2004, 01:06 AM
But what is the likelyhood it would be the business partner when...

The police would locate the body because they were searching for a gun a young boy had found, but then thrown back?

And then that gun turns out to be one belonging to "suspect X" , who is not allowed by law to own a gun,... but the police say there is no disputing he was, as late as last August, the owner.

And the missing man whose body is located quickly, and near the gun, has a single gunshot wound.

And, coincidentally, "suspect X" was known in the past to pal around with two brothers who are, coincidentally, the sons of the victim's wife! :eek:

Talk about bad luck!! A felon chucks a gun, he was never suppose to have, into a river... only to have it land next to the discarded body of his old pals' stepdad?? :confused:

And if ballistics come back and say that same gun is the murder weapon...??

No town is THAT small. This isn't a Dickens novel or six degrees of separation. Unless this business partner is also a known associate of this same group of people, he is looking pretty clean about now... and at the very least there are two step sons that have some explaining to do.

choirboy
05-06-2004, 07:49 PM
I found it highly suspicious that someone would be "returning from an appointment" before 7am in the morning. Another article then said his wife was at the gym and made no mention of it being an appointment. Another then said she was running an errand. Hmmm. If she was indeed at the gym at this "butt crack of dawn" hour, how long had she been attending regularly this early in the AM at the time of her husband's disappearance? Was this a relatively recent "class" she'd begun taking at the gym or had she done this for some time?

You don't know anyone who goes to an excercise class before work? This is pretty common. The fact that newspapers conflict in details is certainly no surprise, and doesn't constitute evidence against persons named in the paper.

The only promising suspect-like person they have mentioned can be linked to her sons, and obviously has a prior felony conviction because he can't own a gun.

Actually, the newspaper got it wrong again. This person was known to the family; however, one of the two sons had never met the guy.

So... who benefits if he is dead?

Good question. He didn't have anything of much value. No big life insurance policy. Frankly, his death is a financial disaster for his family and his business partner.

Love_Mama
05-10-2004, 11:44 AM
Choirboy...........just wondering if there's been any more news on your brother's case? It's a small town.......seem's like they should have some suspects.......I sure hope so. Let us know,

xxxxxxxxxo
mama

choirboy
05-21-2004, 04:09 PM
Nothing new; nothing old, for that matter. I'd like to think the police are quietly following their leads and developing evidence, but I've neither seen nor heard anything to encourage me to think so.

choirboy
06-09-2004, 11:45 AM
http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/localnews/story/15367

This is the first mention I have seen of "bullets" -- that is, more than one bullet. Perhaps this is a typo? Nor had I heard any mention of any bullets exiting the body previously.

Looking back at the earlier news accounts, it was stated more than once that he died from a "single gunshot to the head".

Juliana
06-09-2004, 02:59 PM
http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/localnews/story/15367

This is the first mention I have seen of "bullets" -- that is, more than one bullet. Perhaps this is a typo? Nor had I heard any mention of any bullets exiting the body previously.


Thanks for the update. I hope your family has the answers it needs, and soon!

choirboy
07-18-2004, 11:52 PM
http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/15848

Matt Van Camp
12-27-2004, 04:21 PM
We are currently following leads in the case. Matt Van Camp, Case Detective.

ShowerSinger
12-27-2004, 05:05 PM
It's great to see you here!!!!

choirboy
12-27-2004, 08:01 PM
It will take a while, perhaps a long while, but I have confidence that the truth will be found.

AuntieKaren
12-28-2004, 12:52 AM
Choirboy--
I just found this thread and wanted to say how sorry I am for your brother's death. He looked like such a kind man. Such a shame that someone had to take his life. I hope that the perpetrator is identified and brought to justice soon and may Ira rest in peace.
Karen

choirboy
12-30-2004, 01:05 PM
Thank you for your words of caring and encouragement. We have been blessed with the support of friends and strangers throughout this, and I am grateful to Matt and the Payson Police Department for their dedication to finding my brother's killers.

bulletgirl2002
12-31-2004, 08:26 PM
You hear of cases being solved after years.........

choirboy
12-31-2004, 09:11 PM
Yes, you do. I won't give up, and I don't believe the police will either.

Becba
01-01-2005, 12:20 AM
Yes, you do. I won't give up, and I don't believe the police will either.
How do I start a new thread? I identified a man that is alive but on the unknown dissapearance list.
I tried once to call and it was too late and could not leave a message even.
The next time my husband also identified this person as being the same man and became angry so that I did not follow thru.

Becba
01-01-2005, 01:55 AM
How do I start a new thread? I identified a man that is alive but on the unknown dissapearance list.
I tried once to call and it was too late and could not leave a message even.
The next time my husband also identified this person as being the same man and became angry so that I did not follow thru.
I made several calls and had to insist to be called back instead of doing my own follow up. I finally got a detective after getting called back and told to contact my local police department. I do not know the guys address. What am I going to tell the local police department?
So anyway a detective finally calls after several phone tags. He starts telling me I am not giving him enough information. As if I am trying to cover for he guy I am reporting.
At some point he began to believe me and realise I knew the guy but did not have his address or know the last name of the woman he lived with.
He began typing info, I could hear him typing. I told him where the girlfriend worked and he still wanted her last name. I told him she was heavy and worked in the pharmacy at a well known store. He asked how I knew who the head of the pharmacy was. I told him my husband knew her and he wantewd to know how I knew the girlfriend worked there. Duh. When I get my prescriptions she is there.
I know the police treat people as if they are holding back. But I had to ask this guy several times "What do you need from me." He finally stopped playing games and took the info, typing frantically. And he thanked me and I thanked him.
It was very important to him that I and my husband both identified this guy seperately.
So the info has been given and it is in their hands.

BeeBee
01-01-2005, 03:06 AM
How do I start a new thread? I identified a man that is alive but on the unknown dissapearance list.
I tried once to call and it was too late and could not leave a message even.
The next time my husband also identified this person as being the same man and became angry so that I did not follow thru.


At the top of the page on the left it says "New Thread." If you have information on a person who has been on the disappearance list you can start it. If you are sure it's him, maybe you could PM tybee or Tricia about naming him. If it is a person who has been missing it needs a thread of it's own.

Becba
01-01-2005, 03:11 AM
At the top of the page on the left it says "New Thread." If you have information on a person who has been on the disappearance list you can start it. If you are sure it's him, maybe you could PM tybee or Tricia about naming him. If it is a person who has been missing it needs a thread of it's own.
The Flagstaff police department guarenteed he was the guy "missing".
They are getting him as we write.

Becba
01-01-2005, 03:12 AM
The Flagstaff police department guarenteed he was the guy "missing".
They are getting him as we write.
I think his name has been taken off the Doe network already. Now to find it I have to do a search for Kenneth Welch.

Juliana
01-01-2005, 09:35 AM
I think his name has been taken off the Doe network already. Now to find it I have to do a search for Kenneth Welch.

Please start a thread on this. I want to know more. I'm glad you were persistent in getting through to LE. Thanks.

imo

choirboy
04-29-2005, 02:28 AM
Police look for new leads in Eastman murder case (Friday, April 22, 2005)
http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/18852

choirboy
03-02-2008, 08:16 PM
Almost four years later, it's still unknown who killed my brother and why. The police have had what they felt were promising leads, but everything has lead to dead ends.

kaelee2
03-02-2008, 09:22 PM
I am so sorry you don't have any answers regarding who killed your brother. My prayers go out to you and your family. My brother went missing March 10, 2007, and in 8 days will mark the anniversary of his disappearance. LE and I concur that my brother was murdered, but his remains have not been found. My brother's friends were the last ones to be with him and they will not cooperate with LE or my family.

Tranaice
03-03-2008, 04:32 PM
Almost four years later, it's still unknown who killed my brother and why. The police have had what they felt were promising leads, but everything has lead to dead ends.

I am so sorry to read this. I was hoping you were posting that they had found the killer. Your family is in my thoughts and prayers. I hope that they eventually get some justice for your brother.

brad
04-15-2009, 12:57 PM
I guess there's still no new information?

choirboy
04-16-2009, 02:16 AM
There's no new information on Ira's death.