Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV

[SuziQ]

The below is what I read about the backlog. Who's required to submit DNA? Is it state by state? Or a federal Mandate for all SO's?
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080128/NEWS01/801280338/1016/NEWS

Police said the man's DNA profile did not match any convicted offenders entered into the national DNA database, although scientists have complained the database is severely backlogged.

[SuziQ]

I noticed the Washoe Sheriff's site is very difficult to maneuver, too. You would think if they wanted people to help catch these guys...they would make it so you could navigate to find out what they look like and if they are still incarcerated!

Don't you love how they want you to give them the offenders SSN or License plate number? As if we would normally have a SSN for a SO. And a vague search by zip or city at Family Watchdog bounces you right back to the Washoe County site.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, it is ridiculous! I don't know who their webmaster is...but they should fire him.

Here is some information for you, Suzi:

Rolando Partida-Alvarez, was a 32-year-old unemployed father of two in February in a police sting focused on catching the man who had been peering into a woman's home on Sunset Breeze Drive while she and her children slept. Once, he broke inside her home to masturbate at her bedside. Partida-Alvarez ran out when she screamed. Bodily fluids he left in her bedroom were collected as evidence. He was sentenced to 20-month to 6-year term in prison for convictions of burglary and lewdness.


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080128/NEWS01/801280347/1321/NEWS

[close_enough]

By the way...this has been really bothering me...has anyone heard what Bri texted her boyfriend about at roughly 4:00AM?

Leviosa :rolleyes:

i've been wondering also, ever since i heard about the texting....it hasn't been released...
btw...nice to see you here, Levi:)

[SuziQ]

Thank you SS! I'm not finding Nevada state inmate information for Rolando Partida-Alvarez.

[panthera]

SS, I'm bumping this up for you. I think the one you just posted is a different case in addition to the three we know about, check out the above date and times. Wow. Sounds like he was very busy on that street.
It sounds like the same guy though! The description fits along with the truck. It's just off by one day and the Raiders shirt isn't in the new description. :waitasec:

[SuziQ]

It sounds like the same guy though! The description fits along with the truck. It's just off by one day and the Raiders shirt isn't in the new description. :waitasec:

I'm scratching my head over that one too.

[SuziQ]

While police continue to search for 19-year-old Brianna Denison, scientific evidence has brought them closer to solving the case. DNA samples have linked Brianna's kidnapping to at least two sexual assaults and abductions in the same neighborhood. All three of these crimes have taken place in just the past few months.
The first attack took place in mid November, and the most recent one was the abduction of Brianna just eight days ago. Police say with each incident, the crimes escalated, and it seems, the attacker became more and more aggressive. (much more at link)
http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/14619417.html

ETA: so I guess they matched DNA to the November attack?

[panthera]

I'm scratching my head over that one too.
Without even looking up the article I posted yesterday, I remember the description of the CD player in the truck ~ could it be yet another attack by the same guy, or is the media info. wrong w/ the Raiders shirt?

[panthera]

Nancy's reporting on Brianna's case now. It's basically the same information we have already. Lt. McDonald of RPD is being questioned by Nancy. 1700 SO in Washoe Co. SO only required to give DNA to CODIS for last few months. RPD comparing the DNA to Federal and State databases.

Nancy putting suspect info. on the screen, including shaved pubic region. Confirmed by RPD. Strong, but not a bodybuilder.

[galvino]

Are NG and her panel smoking crack (LOL)? How can the perp 'instantly' change the fact that he has shaved pubic hair? When I played barbies, I rolled up scotch tape and put it on ken's chest and then used hair from my hairbrush to make him look like my dad. Ya think the perp is gonna do that? Yikes!

[panthera]

All I can say now is this guy is very weird! He doesn't want to leave DNA from hair but somehow he left DNA there at the crime scene anyway. I just hope he's found before he strikes again. :mad:

[SuziQ]

Are NG and her panel smoking crack (LOL)? How can the perp 'instantly' change the fact that he has shaved pubic hair? When I played barbies, I rolled up scotch tape and put it on ken's chest and then used hair from my hairbrush to make him look like my dad. Ya think the perp is gonna do that? Yikes!

Are they making toupes'(sp) for the groin area now? :eek:

[Utopia]

Are NG and her panel smoking crack (LOL)? How can the perp 'instantly' change the fact that he has shaved pubic hair? When I played barbies, I rolled up scotch tape and put it on ken's chest and then used hair from my hairbrush to make him look like my dad. Ya think the perp is gonna do that? Yikes!

galvino,

Speaking of crack - you crack me up!:D

Point taken!

[galvino]

I'm embarrassed to say, I also put hair on Barbie's 'area' so she'd look like a grown up! I would bet, with the trend these days w/strippers & porn stars and Brittany Spears' 'bidness' bein out there for the world to appreciate, little girls wouldn't think about doing that- tho I was probably the only wacked out kid in the 60's that did that!

I bet they find this guy within the week!

[LionRun]

I have never heard of a Rapist going back to a previous victim. The surprise value is gone at that point, and the victim will always be wary of another attack and they will be more alert. Thats not what a perp wants.

I was surprised to hear that, too Rick. I have heard that if a burglar successfully steals from a home with no setbacks and makes out nicely sometimes the perp will return. I have never heard of a stranger rapist going back to attack his original victim. I imagine there may be a couple of cases here or there where that has happened, but I imagine it would be uncommon.

Lion

[LionRun]

This creep left enough DNA to easily get a DNA profile two times in a short period of time. His mind is twisted or he wouldn't be attacking young women. I think the shaving of the pubic area may have nothing to do with not wanting to leave DNA. But, instead it may help fulfill his twisted fantasy in a way that we don't know or understand.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

I have heard of rapists going back, but it would be the rare exception not the rule. I don't think the stats would bear out it is a norm.

I think it is possible the perp was trying to break into the other victim's home not to just rape her again, but to silence her. This could be part of the reason for the escalation with Brianna, unfortunately.

[galvino]

Lion Run- I agree completely! Earlier, someone said that it is not unusual this day and age for guys to do that, that the metrosexuals have made it more hip, acceptable. Okay- I am completely out of the loop because I thought that maybe it was either an athletic thing, or porn star thing.

Wonder if this guy (since he may have a wife and kid b/c of the baby shoe) likes to pretend he's a porn star with his wife or girlfriend(s), films himself or something?

I am so glad they have put out all this info-even this more pervy stuff b/c maybe the woman in his life will recognize these traits and turn him in

[panthera]

I have heard of rapists going back, but it would be the rare exception not the rule. I don't think the stats would bear out it is a norm.

I think it is possible the perp was trying to break into the other victim's home not to just rape her again, but to silence her. This could be part of the reason for the escalation with Brianna, unfortunately.
I'm thinking as you are on this one. He'd left a live witness and maybe wanted to permanently silence her. But then, nothing happens at her house and he attacks and abducts Brianna the next night/early morning. :confused:

[LionRun]

If this slime has a gf or wife than she may eventually hear about the shaving of the pubic hair thing. But, only an intimate partner or another victim might know that he shaved himself. I wish there was something that the general public would have noticed that was unique about him because that would have increased the number of people who may know who he is.

Wow, galvino. Why haven't we heard about this shaving practice thing? Even on Nancy Grace the people who talked about it thought it was a bit unusual that a man would shave his pubic hairs. How sure are we that this is a known and acceptable practice? I can't recall who originally stated it, and as weird as this subject is, I would like know more.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

I am the one who brought that tid bit into the conversation and I stand by that statement as it being more common then you may believe. The people on NG are also much older and to them it would be highly unusual...not unlike most of you feel it is. I think to a 25-40yo man, it would not be (particularly if their partner were younger).

I honestly had to laugh at Robbie's take on it. LMAO She was soooo far off base!

If you will google it...you will find tons of articles in men's LEGITIMATE magazines about men's health etc.

[galvino]

Seriously searching talked about it in posts #407 & #418- i was flabbergasted!

I am just wondering if, because of age, baby shoe, the fact that he isn't a smelly slob according to his description---if he does have a significant other, or dates around and seems "normal" to his intimate partner (except for the bald thing) and acts out his sexual fantasies on these victims.

He may just seem like a 'sexy guy' with his girlfriend, but may have been getting his kicks 1st by peeping, then stepping up to these last few attacks b/c he can't act them out with his wife/girlfriend/dates because he knows it is wrong. I really think this pervy detail may cause someone to know who he is, cause he can't remedy that as fast as shaving a soul patch!

[galvino]

SS- since I went to college with NG at Mercer i can attest that we are in the same age group and to us it would be wierd.

Like I said before- I gotta get out more!

[KansasCutie]

IWow, galvino. Why haven't we heard about this shaving practice thing? Even on Nancy Grace the people who talked about it thought it was a bit unusual that a man would shave his pubic hairs. How sure are we that this is a known and acceptable practice? I can't recall who originally stated it, and as weird as this subject is, I would like know more.

Lion

honestly, i dont know a guy who doesnt shave their pubic hair. Its very common! At least with guys around my age...

[SeriouslySearching]

SEE! Kansas is aware of this trend!!

I think it is funny you were flabbergasted, Galvino. LOL I might be old, but I keep up! >wink< Like I said, I am the Dear Abby of the 20-something girls club. There isn't much I haven't heard!!

[KansasCutie]

SEE! Kansas is aware of this trend!!

I think it is funny you were flabbergasted, Galvino. LOL I might be old, but I keep up! >wink< Like I said, I am the Dear Abby of the 20-something girls club. There isn't much I haven't heard!!

lol yeah its extremely common...& thank god for that! =)

[SuziQ]

I'm 48 and all the men I know have the same "hygene" habits we've been discussing. And it's not just men. More and more people look at hairy crotches the same as having hairy armpits.

[SeriouslySearching]

OK Back to the case since this has taken a turn here. That is about as OT as we have EVER been! LOL

If this man is a father and since they said it was a baby shoe...we can probably theorize the child is 2yo or younger. They are not very certain of his age. He could be in his mid-20s and have the look of an older person. I heard the detective say quietly he was between 5' 6" and 6' 2" on NG. That is a huge margin.

This means he could very well be a student at the college and fits in the area so people wouldn't really pay much attention to him. The truck or SUV was older which means the CD player with the blue and red probably was purchased and installed instead of stock. (They could possibly track down the make and model unless there are thousands with blue and red readouts.)

Has anyone checked out trucks or SUVs for the dome light above the windshield? This seems like an unusual feature to me. Most are in the roof, aren't they?

[philamena]

I'm 48 and all the men I know have the same "hygene" habits we've been discussing. And it's not just men. More and more people look at hairy crotches the same as having hairy armpits.
:eek: Learn something new every day. :D

Back on topic-
I asked earlier today on one of these threads, if anyone thought the perp could be an employee. Maybe a grounds worker, construction worker, cook, etc?

[LillyRush]

.... Maybe he works in a kitchen in a restaurant or bar tho. It would be another job he would have such hours.

Your last comment made me wonder about the possibility of him being a bouncer in a bar. They can dress casual and get away with the facial hair. They are also usually not out of there until between 2 and 4am, since there are usually stragglers and sometimes they help close the bar. Maybe he targets girls who has seen in the bar(s) where he works. Sorry if someone has mentioned that already, I'm 4 pages behind.

[KR2tonenow]

Yeah, you guys kinda lost me on the pubic hair!
I agree, the facial hair will be a goatee.
Which traditionally is worn by guys in their 20's.

Anyway, as NG stated, 3 attacks and their all linked! Looking at secret witness above is scary, could be more related cases, as perp is getting sloopy with DNA.

Great sleuthing guys:) !!

[SeriouslySearching]

I am having a horrible time finding interior photos above the windshield to look for a dome light there in ANY vehicles!!

OK here is one: 2004 Toyota Sequoia; It also has a step up.

http://www.internetautoguide.com/reviews/09-int/2004/toyota/sequoia/index.html

Wouldn't you think they could get that victim to look at photos of different vehicles to see what kind it was?! This is like a needle in a haystack.

[MCDRAW]

OK Back to the case since this has taken a turn here. That is about as OT as we have EVER been! LOL

If this man is a father and since they said it was a baby shoe...we can probably theorize the child is 2yo or younger. They are not very certain of his age. He could be in his mid-20s and have the look of an older person. I heard the detective say quietly he was between 5' 6" and 6' 2" on NG. That is a huge margin.

This means he could very well be a student at the college and fits in the area so people wouldn't really pay much attention to him. The truck or SUV was older which means the CD player with the blue and red probably was purchased and installed instead of stock. (They could possibly track down the make and model unless there are thousands with blue and red readouts.)

Has anyone checked out trucks or SUVs for the dome light above the windshield? This seems like an unusual feature to me. Most are in the roof, aren't they?


Most trucks that I know of have a dome light on the outside of the back window. You use it to light the bed of the truck. Or that has been the case of the trucks that we have owned.

[SeriouslySearching]

This one would be located between the sunvisors in the very front above the front windshield by the way it was described.

Suspect vehicle: Extended cab pick-up truck or SUV, dome light above the windshield, tall enough that it requires a step up to gain entry, floor-mounted console that was described as "fairly skinny" that opens in front, blue and red LED read-out on the radio, cloth seats, automatic transmission.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22881418/

[SeriouslySearching]

A brown stuffed bear with white and multi-colored balloons on the belly and about 24-inches tall was missing from the area where she was sleeping.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080122/NEWS18/80122050/1038/MVN

Wasn't someone looking for photos of the bear? Here is a good description, but I haven't found a photo yet.

[Angelray]

I'm 48 and all the men I know have the same "hygene" habits we've been discussing. And it's not just men. More and more people look at hairy crotches the same as having hairy armpits.

oh oh :eek: I have to go back and read all of this to see what you all are talking about:blushing: Have never heard you girls talk like this on here.

[SeriouslySearching]

oh oh :eek: I have to go back and read all of this to see what you all are talking about:blushing: Have never heard you girls talk like this on here.Well, we normally don't!! But it is one of the facts of the case: The suspect and the description as given by the other victim! We were discussing the importance, if any, to the case and the reasoning behind it. :waitasec:

[Angelray]

Well, we normally don't!! But it is one of the facts of the case: The suspect and the description as given by the other victim! We were discussing the importance, if any, to the case and the reasoning behind it. :waitasec:

ok now I see whew thought everyone had drank some bad water or sumthin LOL and it most def is a young generation thing..IMO

[MCDRAW]

I'm hoping with the description of his face ( the shape of), the truck, the baby shoe, and the shaved pubic region, someone will begin to get suspicious. I hope they can put the pieces together and turn him in. I hope they are in time to fine Brianna alive but I don't think that's looking too good at this point. Miracles have happened and I am still hoping!

[dimples37398]

Here is his inmate info, partida-alvarez.....it looks like he is still incarcerated.

Offender Name:PARTIDA-ALVAREZ, ROLANDO

Offender ID Number:1005727


Gender: M Ethnicity: HISPANIC Birth Date: 09/20/1974 Approximate Age:33 Height: 5' 4" Weight: 140 lbs Build: MEDIUM Complex: MEDIUM Hair Color: BLACK Eye Color: BROWN Current Institution: NORTHERN NEVADA CORRECTIONAL CENTER Custody Level: MEDIUM

Known Aliases: 1) ROLANDO PARTIDA; 2) ROLANDO PARTIDA-SOLARZANO
Booking InformationBooking #80819

Booking #80819

Offense Code
299

Description
BURGLARY

Status
ACTIVE

Min Sent
20mths

Max Sent
72mths

PED
10/02/2008

MPR
10/14/2009


PEXD
04/15/2010

Type
Determinate

Start Date
08/02/2007

[kgeaux]

So if Brian's drawing are not legit, then what is his purpose? $$$$$. Anyone who preys on anything is a predator, are they not? Those are not harsh words for anyone the likes of him.

He's been accused in the past of "backdating" some of his drawings. (After a case is solved, he'll post a pic. with a back-date, making it appear as though he predicted the solution.) Just saying.

[dbl_r_2]

This was mentioned further back in the messages. He could have been returning to silence the victim or was he wanting to get a momento or trophy for his attack that he had not gotten. He took the bear with Brianna, did he take anything with the other victim?

[Indy Gal]

I am the one who brought that tid bit into the conversation and I stand by that statement as it being more common then you may believe. The people on NG are also much older and to them it would be highly unusual...not unlike most of you feel it is. I think to a 25-40yo man, it would not be (particularly if their partner were younger).

I honestly had to laugh at Robbie's take on it. LMAO She was soooo far off base!

If you will google it...you will find tons of articles in men's LEGITIMATE magazines about men's health etc.
Only reading here but did have to agree with you. It is a VERY common thing now. My friends and my BF all shave down there. As do women.

[dee10134]

one thing bugs me...I think LE gave this guy Ian a pass a little too quickly. What 19 year old girl would call a 45 year old guy a "harmless friend"...no 19 year old that I know would be caught hanging out with a 45 year old man, unless he was doing something for her. I think they need to look into this a little further...he may not be involved in Brianna's disappearance but he might be involved in other things, IMO.

He was probably buying them alcohol or drugs in exchange to be allowed to party with them. It happens all them time when you have a group of underage kids that want alcohol and can't buy it.

[dee10134]

Yeah thats exactly what it means.

You all get together somewhere and drink (we usually play some type of card game or beer pong) before you go to the party, concert, basketball game etc. I really dont know any of my group of friends that goes out without pregaming so its pretty common.

Yep! You save TONS of money that way. The cost of a good drink in a bar in Chicago is about $5-7 EACH. Pre-gaming just saves you some cash, especially when you're a college student on a budget.

[Mygirlsadie]

They say they got DNA from what? What did he leave behind that had DNA on it?

[dee10134]

It's those things left behind that keep me from thinking she just took off. She is beautiful and needs her toiletries!

If she'd been walking, the dogs would have smelled her...so say those who know about dogs.

I have a door like that!!! I'll have to see what can be done to make it safer.....

Get an alarm system with glass break sensors and/or motion detectors.

[aj1020]

This creep left enough DNA to easily get a DNA profile two times in a short period of time. His mind is twisted or he wouldn't be attacking young women. I think the shaving of the pubic area may have nothing to do with not wanting to leave DNA. But, instead it may help fulfill his twisted fantasy in a way that we don't know or understand.

Lion

I agree with this - I don't think he was concerned with leaving DNA at the scene or he wouldn't have facial hair or made a, err, fluid "deposit" at the house.

[SuziQ]

Thanks Dimples! It's a relief that creep is behind bars! With so many prisons and jails overiding sentences, you never know.

[aj1020]

I am having a horrible time finding interior photos above the windshield to look for a dome light there in ANY vehicles!!.

When I first read the part about a dome light being above the windshield, I thought they were talking about "clearance lights" on the vehicle's exterior, above the cab. Here's a link to some trucks with clearance lights - they're the orange lights mounted on the top of the cab... http://www.fordtrucksonline.com/new-ford-f250-superduty-pickup-trucks.htm Just wanted to throw that out there as an option.

But I'm guessing it probably is the interior dome light above the windshield. We have a Ford Expedition which is the same chassis and basic body as a Ford F-150 pickup - we have a dome light above the windshield that comes on when the doors open. You have to "step up" (onto the running boards if you wish) to get in the vehicle. I'd be willing to be that most newer Ford F-series pickups (and SUVs) have dome lights above the windshield, unless the interior design has drastically changed in the last few years.

[LucyVino]

honestly, i dont know a guy who doesnt shave their pubic hair. Its very common! At least with guys around my age...

I'm with you KansasCutie I find it to be very common and I'm 37.

[aj1020]

Day 9: Search Teams Fly Into Reno To Aid In Search For Missing Teen

"It is Day 9 today in the search for a missing teen, Brianna Denison, who vanished from a friends house and police have received a major boost in man power Tuesday.

The extra search power comes as two teams flew into Reno yesterday to aid the serach effort and bulster Reno PD officers that have been working around the clock trying to find the missing 19-year-old student.

Workers from the Laura Recovery Center for Missing Children based in Friendswood, Texas, and the Polly Klaas Foundation based out of Petaluma, California landed in Reno Monday."

more at link: http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/13942957.html

[close_enough]

I'm with you KansasCutie I find it to be very common and I'm 37.

ok, so it's common......but what's the reason for doing it??....:confused:

[bnhall]

ok, so it's common......but what's the reason for doing it??....:confused:

It makes everything look bigger.

[LucyVino]

Lol! I think it's a hygiene thing, it's cleaner.

[Mygirlsadie]

hahahaha... you are probably right! O/T here I know.. The very first time I saw this on a guy I was dating I swear I thought he was gay. I asked him if he was bi-sexual or something?! Eww I don't like it sorry you guys but to me it's not very manly at all..




It makes everything look bigger.

[close_enough]

lol, thanks for the responses.....

[Indy Gal]

hahahaha... you are probably right! O/T here I know.. The very first time I saw this on a guy I was dating I swear I thought he was gay. I asked him if he was bi-sexual or something?! Eww I don't like it sorry you guys but to me it's not very manly at all..
I still cant believe we are talking about this...LMAO

[SeriouslySearching]

Let's get back to the case, please!! I think we have established that it is not an uncommon practice...which was my point in the first place. (I wish now I had not brought it up!!!) He probably wasn't just doing it to avoid leaving evidence as some people thought.

[nanandjim]

Let's get back to the case...
Really...Geez... :rolleyes:

[SeriouslySearching]

Day 9: Search Teams Fly Into Reno To Aid In Search For Missing Teen

"It is Day 9 today in the search for a missing teen, Brianna Denison, who vanished from a friends house and police have received a major boost in man power Tuesday.

The extra search power comes as two teams flew into Reno yesterday to aid the serach effort and bulster Reno PD officers that have been working around the clock trying to find the missing 19-year-old student.

Workers from the Laura Recovery Center for Missing Children based in Friendswood, Texas, and the Polly Klaas Foundation based out of Petaluma, California landed in Reno Monday."

more at link: http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/13942957.html:rolleyes: Back to the case!! I wonder why they haven't requested Equusearch?!

[dee10134]

I'm 48 and all the men I know have the same "hygene" habits we've been discussing. And it's not just men. More and more people look at hairy crotches the same as having hairy armpits.

Two words: RAZOR BUMPS :eek:

That's enough to make anyone NOT want to shave down under! LOL :crazy:

[dee10134]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::D LOL bnhall~! I'm laughing my ass off here! LOL!

It makes everything look bigger.

[SeriouslySearching]

Come on!! Do we have to continue to go there?! This isn't going to help to find Brianna. Let's get out minds out of the gutters and get back to what really is important here. Now I am having to beg!!

Why don't one of you go make a thread for this in the Jury Room? You can discuss the intricate details of the whys and the proper ways to do this there!!

[dee10134]

Didn't Jason Dorfman describe a guy showing up at his place with Brianna wearing a red jersey with a blue collar on the night Brianna went missing? He appears to match exactly the description LE is providing of the perp!

[dee10134]

Come on!! Do we have to continue to go there?! This isn't going to help to find Brianna. Let's get out minds out of the gutters and get back to what really is important here. Now I am having to beg!!

Why don't one of you go make a thread for this in the Jury Room? You can discuss the intricate details of the whys and the proper ways to do this there!!

Wow, Sorry. I was only responding as I read. I didn't know we were done talking about it.

Either way, chastising people on the board isn't exactly helping to find Brianna either! :rolleyes:

JMHO

[SeriouslySearching]

Hmmmm..that is a point I obviously missed, Dee. Do we have that post or link?

[SeriouslySearching]

Wow, Sorry. I was only responding as I read. I didn't know we were done talking about it.

Either way, chastising people on the board isn't exactly helping to find Brianna either! :rolleyes:

JMHOYou are right. Sorry. I just feel bad that I started that whole conversation and it took on a life of its own. I didn't expect it! :bang:

[Rick777]

:rolleyes: Back to the case!! I wonder why they haven't requested Equusearch?!


I wonder why they waited 9 days to go all out in this search??!!!

[paddy01]

Didn't Jason Dorfman describe a guy showing up at his place with Brianna wearing a red jersey with a blue collar on the night Brianna went missing? He appears to match exactly the description LE is providing of the perp!

Jason describe the man as 5' 7" longish brown hair, I ask a few pages back if this could be Ian the one who gave Brianna & K.T. ride home. Then I ask do we have description Ian? Jason did not mention any clothing the guy had on, or I missed it.

[SeriouslySearching]

I wonder what Jason looks like?

[dee10134]

Sorry, I guess I was confused. I went back and reread Dorfman's post and it does not mention a red jersey. I could have sworn that I read that somewhere though. LOL

[dee10134]

Wait, from the RGJ.com article describing Brianna: "Brianna graduated from Reno High School, where her brother is currently a freshman."

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080127/NEWS/801270353/1002

Didn't someone sleuth that the jerseys for Reno High School were red with blue collars?

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, I did. Medium blue and red are the colors at Reno High School.

[SeriouslySearching]

Brianna is responsible and always called her family, who lives in Reno, or sent them a text message to check in. She began dating her first boyfriend during her first year of college. He was the last person she communicated with when she disappeared the morning of Jan. 20.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080127/NEWS/801270353/1002

If this is true...who is the "other" boyfriend that was mentioned by some that could be in Reno and a stalker type?! I am confused now.

[gardenmom]

I am the one who brought that tid bit into the conversation and I stand by that statement as it being more common then you may believe. The people on NG are also much older and to them it would be highly unusual...not unlike most of you feel it is. I think to a 25-40yo man, it would not be (particularly if their partner were younger).

I honestly had to laugh at Robbie's take on it. LMAO She was soooo far off base!

If you will google it...you will find tons of articles in men's LEGITIMATE magazines about men's health etc.

I know I am going to regret this :eek: , but several years back my DH and I both shaved our nether regions and it was for the purpose of oral sex. I don't know why he'd care about his partner, but we know that he had to perform an oral sex act on him.

[aj1020]

Wait, from the RGJ.com article describing Brianna: "Brianna graduated from Reno High School, where her brother is currently a freshman."

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080127/NEWS/801270353/1002

Didn't someone sleuth that the jerseys for Reno High School were red with blue collars?

But I'm going to throw out there that my husband has a Reebok "jersey" that's red with blue around the collar and around the ends of the sleeves that he wears to work out in. I, personally, don't want to draw too many conclustions about the realtion of the high school colors to this man's shirt. It could be from anywhere.

Didn't the description of his attire also say that he was wearing a long sleeve shirt under this jersey thing? That just makes me think he wasn't coming straight from an athletic job/hobby but makes me lean toward him just wearing these clothes for comfort or "just for cause". Going back to look...

[SeriouslySearching]

The long shirt could have been due to the cold or perhaps he was hiding tattoos.

You are right tho. It could be like a Fubu or Reebok stock jersey that you could find anywhere.

[aj1020]

red (not maroon) short sleeve shirt described as being made of material similar in feel to a Fubu jersey-type shirt (silk/rayon/polyester type) with a medium blue-colored neckline, short printed (possibly embroidered) word on the upper left breast area, another shirt underneath with wrist-length sleeves, unknown color pants – regular length – not jeans. The pants reminded the victim of basketball pants as the material was smooth but they made no noise when he moved and they had an elastic waist band and no zipper.

I think at some point someone said he had athletic shorts on (maybe it was me?! :)) but I see that they were pants, so I'm thinking they were probably those silky-ish workout pants.

[dee10134]

But I'm going to throw out there that my husband has a Reebok "jersey" that's red with blue around the collar and around the ends of the sleeves that he wears to work out in. I, personally, don't want to draw too many conclustions about the realtion of the high school colors to this man's shirt. It could be from anywhere.

Didn't the description of his attire also say that he was wearing a long sleeve shirt under this jersey thing? That just makes me think he wasn't coming straight from an athletic job/hobby but makes me lean toward him just wearing these clothes for comfort or "just for cause". Going back to look...

That's what I believe as well. I thought I read it could have been a Fubu jersey. FYI: Fubu's logo is generally embroidered on the left side, over the heart and is in sloppy cursive type writing. That could be why the person couldn't read the embroidery properly...

Another FYI: Fubu is a popular brand of clothing for young people, especially urban people, or those that dress "hip hop". The nylon jogging pants they described are also called "swishy pants" for the noise they make when you walk. They also make breakaway basketball pants that people like to wear casually because they're comfortable. I think these are what the victim was referring to when she was describing them...

Perp could have been wearing them because he's on the younger age spectrum or older but still in with the trends or into hip hop music and culture...

- OR -

... he could have been wearing them solely for their elastic waist which could allow him to pull them down and up very quickly (easy access). :mad:

[SeriouslySearching]

I think the 40yo end of the spectrum here is beyond the scope of who they should be looking for. Everything so far points to this being a younger man, imo. Late teens to late 20s.

[Rick777]

When I hear about the silky type shorts, possibly fubar or football style jersey, and a truck with the lights in odd places....I imagine this being a hispanic. The only prob I have is the report of light colored hair on the arm of the suspect.

[dee10134]

When I hear about the silky type shorts, possibly fubar or football style jersey, and a truck with the lights in odd places....I imagine this being a hispanic. The only prob I have is the report of light colored hair on the arm of the suspect.

They're pants, not shorts. And lots of young people wear clothing like this, not just hispanics.

[SeriouslySearching]

If this were someone still living at home with his parents...the truck or suv could have been "borrowed" from dad. He might have a young sibling to account for the shoe.

Since the attacks occurred close together (except the Nov. attack), this guy could have been home on a break from school himself. He could already have left the area to back to college.

[Rick777]

They're pants, not shorts. And lots of young people wear clothing like this, not just hispanics.


Only the hispanics where I live.

[dee10134]

I imagine the pants being similar to these:
http://www.eastbay.com/catalog/productdetail/cm--GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH/supercat--home/model_nbr--30924/sku--171439/size--/ (http://www.eastbay.com/catalog/productdetail/cm--GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH/supercat--home/model_nbr--30924/sku--171439/size--/)

or these:
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/2932253?cm_cat=datafeed&cm_pla=bottoms:men:pant&cm_ite=nike_'basketball_franchise'_practice_pants: 186560&cm_ven=Froogle&mr:trackingCode=A508E251-FACC-DC11-BE2A-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA (http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/2932253?cm_cat=datafeed&cm_pla=bottoms:men:pant&cm_ite=nike_%27basketball_franchise%27_practice_pa nts:186560&cm_ven=Froogle&mr:trackingCode=A508E251-FACC-DC11-BE2A-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA)

[Rick777]

I imagine the pants being similar to these:
http://www.eastbay.com/catalog/productdetail/cm--GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH/supercat--home/model_nbr--30924/sku--171439/size--/

or these:
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/2932253?cm_cat=datafeed&cm_pla=bottoms:men:pant&cm_ite=nike_'basketball_franchise'_practice_pants: 186560&cm_ven=Froogle&mr:trackingCode=A508E251-FACC-DC11-BE2A-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA (http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/2932253?cm_cat=datafeed&cm_pla=bottoms:men:pant&cm_ite=nike_%27basketball_franchise%27_practice_pa nts:186560&cm_ven=Froogle&mr:trackingCode=A508E251-FACC-DC11-BE2A-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA)


Thats how I see them as well..

[aj1020]

When I hear about the silky type shorts, possibly fubar or football style jersey, and a truck with the lights in odd places....I imagine this being a hispanic. The only prob I have is the report of light colored hair on the arm of the suspect.

I think that's stereotyping a bit much. Again, my husband and his friends wear "fubu" type jerseys (though not the Fubu brand, typically Reebok or Adidas) and silky type pants all the time! To work out in, to play basketball in, or just to wear around the house. I don't think the truck's dome light was in an "odd place" such as it was put in there after-market. I think the dome light is there just as it could be in any of our vehicles. Making assumptions on this person's race based on the clothes they wear and the description of the vehicle is hugely unfair, but more than that you'll miss out on an entire demographic (like Caucasians) which the suspect could very well be a member of.

[dee10134]

I think that's stereotyping a bit much. Again, my husband and his friends wear "fubu" type jerseys (though not the Fubu brand, typically Reebok or Adidas) and silky type pants all the time! To work out in, to play basketball in, or just to wear around the house. I don't think the truck's dome light was in an "odd place" such as it was put in there after-market. I think the dome light is there just as it could be in any of our vehicles. Making assumptions on this person's race based on the clothes they wear and the description of the vehicle is hugely unfair, but more than that you'll miss out on an entire demographic (like Caucasians) which the suspect could very well be a member of.

I agree 110%!

[aj1020]

Only the hispanics where I live.

I would bet a good chunk of change that more than just the hispanics dress like this, in your area or anywhere else! Maybe you don't notice them because they're in their own homes while wearing this clothing or they're wearing it for a specific purpose (working out, etc.). I don't think you can use the "all or none" philosophy when it comes to something as generic as type of clothing.

[SeriouslySearching]

There are vehicles which do have the front, center dome light. Most are higher end, such as the Hummer, but several trucks and suvs do as well. They come stock and are not added on later.

[Rick777]

I think that's stereotyping a bit much. Again, my husband and his friends wear "fubu" type jerseys (though not the Fubu brand, typically Reebok or Adidas) and silky type pants all the time! To work out in, to play basketball in, or just to wear around the house. I don't think the truck's dome light was in an "odd place" such as it was put in there after-market. I think the dome light is there just as it could be in any of our vehicles. Making assumptions on this person's race based on the clothes they wear and the description of the vehicle is hugely unfair, but more than that you'll miss out on an entire demographic (like Caucasians) which the suspect could very well be a member of.


Making assumptions is what this is all about. I'm on the record now, so we shall see. :)

[Rick777]

There are vehicles which do have the front, center dome light. Most are higher end, such as the Hummer, but several trucks and suvs do as well. They come stock and are not added on later.

Thats what I was thinking

[dee10134]

I think the 40yo end of the spectrum here is beyond the scope of who they should be looking for. Everything so far points to this being a younger man, imo. Late teens to late 20s.

SS, I agree.

Based off of the clothing style, possible goatee, and general description, I'd guess he's probably mid- to late-20s, possibly up to 32-35.

I have a feeling that late teens may be too young. The baby shoe is throwing me off.

If I had to, I'd guesstimate his age to be between 22 and 28.

[SeriouslySearching]

We have to take into account it could be a Hispanic male as easily as it could be a caucasion or even a Native American. I would think DNA could help determine this, couldn't it? They are now using DNA to determine heritage taking people back to their roots in Europe and other places.

[SeriouslySearching]

Like I said, the baby shoe could belong to a sibling instead of his child. The truck or suv could be owned by the parents of the perp.

[dee10134]

Don't they have the guy on casino security video or was that Ian?

Could "Ian" and the perp actually be the same person?

[Rick777]

Fox just said the suspect might be slightly overweight. I had not heard that before. I thought he was average, yet strong?

[SeriouslySearching]

It was stated last night on NG that the perp had a "belly roll" when he was sitting, but it went away when he stood up. I think this could indicate the perp did not regularly work out.

[Rick777]

Don't they have the guy on casino security video or was that Ian?

Could "Ian" and the perp actually be the same person?


I have heard that possibility tossed around. I would think LE would have that figured by now.

[aj1020]

SS, I agree.

Based off of the clothing style, possible goatee, and general description, I'd guess he's probably mid- to late-20s, possibly up to 32-35.

I have a feeling that late teens may be too young. The baby shoe is throwing me off.

If I had to, I'd guesstimate his age to be between 22 and 28.

I'm guessing it's late 20s - early 30s myself. I just keep thinking "old enough to know better but too young to care". It's very possible, but I don't see a 35-40 year old with a young child in the first place (simply because it's not as common). It seems like this spree of assaults in the last few months could have began long ago, but he (hopefully) would have been caught by now. Although as we're seeing with the GMH case, sometimes criminals commit crimes for years before LE even raises an eyebrow.

[SeriouslySearching]

I have seen plenty of college age boys that would fit that very description and would place them in the late teens category.

[Rick777]

I honestly thought we would have something by now...since the previous victim was pretty thorough in description. In a way....not finding the body, truck, bear, or other items might mean Brianna is in the same holding place, and alive.

[aj1020]

Like I said, the baby shoe could belong to a sibling instead of his child. The truck or suv could be owned by the parents of the perp.

Ooo, good thinking, that hadn't crossed my mind.

[10EC_Dad]

I have seen plenty of college age boys that would fit that very description and would place them in the late teens category.

My guess is 25-35

[SeriouslySearching]

The search needs to be on for this vehicle. They should ask to see every vehicle in a radius of 5 miles from that crime scene.

[Rick777]

26-33

[aj1020]

We need a new thread, this one is getting loooonnnngggg.

Can we do that?

[Rick777]

with all these sexual predators in and around Reno....this has not been a chamber of commerce moment for them.

[SeriouslySearching]

New thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=60

[nanandjim]

New thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=60

Did you ask a moderator to lock this one? Just wondering because they are the ones who usually start new threads. Otherwise, it can get confusing. :)