D.A.: Death penalty out if Marine arrested in Mexico

[Taximom]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/21/missing.marine/index.html
(CNN) -- Suspected killer Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean is most likely in Mexico, authorities said, and the prosecutor said he has agreed not to seek the death penalty if Laurean is arrested in that country.



Well, it's not like we didn't see this coming! These other countries need to keep their noses out of our business. :behindbar

[SeriouslySearching]

Is it any wonder they have a total lack of control of Mexico and their citizens? They are willing to harbor the worst offenders of the US and keep them from justice here.

What I don't understand is...as corrupt as their police force etc. is in Mexico...their own brand of justice is to just shoot someone outright or torture them. They are willing to let them live in substandard conditions and encourage them to break the law by coming across our borders every day. Why do we play by THEIR rules when it comes to OUR offenders?! We need to find a way to thwart their efforts to keep their own from facing true justice.

[Jaded]

This is just BS, but I figured it would happen. Makes vigilante justice seem acceptable.

[Littledeer]

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What I don't understand is...as corrupt as their police force etc. is in Mexico...their own brand of justice is to just shoot someone outright or torture them. They are willing to let them live in substandard conditions and encourage them to break the law by coming across our borders every day. Why do we play by THEIR rules when it comes to OUR offenders?! We need to find a way to thwart their efforts to keep their own from not facing true justice.

[panglossian]

CNN's breaking news headline says Laurean was seen a about week ago in Guadalajara, Mexico by his cousin.

[kathyn2]

How do we know the cousin is telling the truth tho? He may just be helping Cesar to throw the authorities off the track. But I saw a Fox news report this morning with a bounty hunter. They were saying bounty hunters were after CL down in Mexico. I pray one of them gets him and drags him back here to face the music so that the DP will still be on the table.

[SeriouslySearching]

Hmmm...I didn't know a bounty hunter could go after someone until they had been formally charged and unless they jumped bail. I guess I learn something new every day.

[JanetElaine]

Hmmm...I didn't know a bounty hunter could go after someone until they had been formally charged and unless they jumped bail. I guess I learn something new every day.

I didn't know that either. Unless it's a 'different kind' of bounty hunter. The ones out for the reward, you know, like in the old days.

[SeriouslySearching]

True. I guess they can do that...like a private investigator.

[panglossian]

The DA saying that if he is in Mexico the death penalty comes off the table disturbs me in that by advertising that little fact gem, all the other murderers present and future now know where to go. Mexico. Guaranteed no DP and no real guarantee of extradition. Great.

Why doesn't the military override the DA in this case? Haven't they have in the past? Get Laurean back here first and have a military trial. He killed a fellow marine.

[panglossian]

The DA saying that if he is in Mexico the death penalty comes off the table disturbs me in that by advertising that little fact gem, all the other murderers present and future now know where to go. Mexico. Guaranteed no DP and no real guarantee of extradition. Great.

Why doesn't the military override the DA in this case? Haven't they in the past? Get Laurean back here first and have a military trial. He killed a fellow marine.

[FlowerChild]

I think life without parole might be worse than the DP for a coward like POS, he is only 21 years old! Facing 70 years in prison just might make him take care of the DP issue before he can be apprehended.

And it doesn't matter whether it's the FBI, the State of NC or the USMC, the DP is OFF THE TABLE if he is found in Mexico. They aren't gonna risk Mexico not cooperating in the future for even WORSE criminals just to kill POS, when LWOP in a super-max prison is probably as close to he!! on earth as a man like CL can get - followed by real He!! when he dies behind bars. His future will consist of a cage and being a "stellar possession" of NC's toughest prison. A couple of years of that and POS will be wishing for the DP every single day.

I just want justice for Maria And Gabrielle - and POS NOT EVER taking another free breath the rest of his sorry life is good enough for me. At 21, life in prison is kinda like being buried like Maria and her baby- except POS will be ALIVE!!!!!

My Opinion

[philamena]

I don't even care about the DP...just get his butt back to the US so he can be charged and locked up.
No one that beats and kills a pregnant woman, the woman carrying his child, then buries them and sets them on fire deserves to be walking around free.
I don't give a pigs ass what country he's from....get him back here so he can get his just reward. Murder charges and a trial. :furious:

[Elphaba]

Thank goodness this isn't pre-2005... because then not only could Mexico have not allowed him to be extradited on a death penalty case, but they also could have not allowed for extradition on a life without parole case. This changed in 2005 when the Mexican supreme court struck down their constitutional ban on life imprisonment.

So, as bad as it is that we have to compromise with Mexico on how we will handle those committing crimes in our country and fleeing to their country, at least now we can get the jerk back and put him away for life. Pre-2005, to get him back to the states to stand trial, we would have had to agree to let him have a chance to get out of prison, one day. :|

[SeriouslySearching]

Cesar could have friends or family in high places in Mexico. They might be controlling what LE in Mexico is doing to find or to protect him. If so, he may never be brought to justice here. We have to rely on the Mexican government to arrest him and hand him over. If they are not willing to take him into custody...we are essentially without a way to bring him back.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

The DA saying that if he is in Mexico the death penalty comes off the table disturbs me in that by advertising that little fact gem, all the other murderers present and future now know where to go. Mexico. Guaranteed no DP and no real guarantee of extradition. Great.

Why doesn't the military override the DA in this case? Haven't they in the past? Get Laurean back here first and have a military trial. He killed a fellow marine.

you've asked the question I've been wondering about...we all read about the fact that POS is military property. Can they go into another country and "retrieve" their property legally? I have no idea, but I LIKE the idea, LOL. I bet if that were the case, POS would have wished the civilian LE would have captured him :eek: rather than the Marines!

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Cesar could have friends or family in high places in Mexico. They might be controlling what LE in Mexico is doing to find or to protect him. If so, he may never be brought to justice here. We have to rely on the Mexican government to arrest him and hand him over. If they are not willing to take him into custody...we are essentially without a way to bring him back.


I hate that this is what I am fearing...

[Taximom]

http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2008/01/25/ap/us/d8ucsn700.txt

Deal offered
JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - If a Marine wanted in the killing of a 20-year-old pregnant colleague is arrested in Mexico, he will not face lethal injection in North Carolina under a deal offered by prosecutors to the Marine and Mexican authorities.

Investigators believe Cpl. Cesar Laurean has fled to his native Mexico, which refuses to send anyone back to the U.S. unless provided assurances they won't face the death penalty.
(more plus pic at link)

[panglossian]

http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2008/01/25/ap/us/d8ucsn700.txt

Deal offered
JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - If a Marine wanted in the killing of a 20-year-old pregnant colleague is arrested in Mexico, he will not face lethal injection in North Carolina under a deal offered by prosecutors to the Marine and Mexican authorities.

Investigators believe Cpl. Cesar Laurean has fled to his native Mexico, which refuses to send anyone back to the U.S. unless provided assurances they won't face the death penalty.
(more plus pic at link)
It figures.

[FMRUSMC]

The DA saying that if he is in Mexico the death penalty comes off the table disturbs me in that by advertising that little fact gem, all the other murderers present and future now know where to go. Mexico. Guaranteed no DP and no real guarantee of extradition. Great.

Why doesn't the military override the DA in this case? Haven't they in the past? Get Laurean back here first and have a military trial. He killed a fellow marine.

Amen, let's go get the POS.

[Tsunami]

Life in prison would be a hell of it's own. Remember...even prisoners don't like baby killers, and he would have the sheet beat out of him by them!

[Mygirlsadie]

Would it really be that bad though? His wife and child could still come visit him he would get 3 meals a day,shelter,exercise...I don't know if it would be that bad. He already don't have a concious so by him being in there I don't think he would mind. He fled because of the DP..the coward. He is a disgrace to the marine corps & his living child.




Life in prison would be a hell of it's own. Remember...even prisoners don't like baby killers, and he would have the sheet beat out of him by them!

[davenj]

NC had to take the death penalty off the table to get him back when/if he is found.The military plays the double jepordy game.Say ya get popped for DUI in Oceanside while in the USMC.First the Oceanside PD gets ya,then you get to answer the USMC for that as well.

I'd love to see CL caught and do time in NC's penal system,and live long enough to get out,only to see the USMC waiting at the gate to give him a free ride to Leavenworth.Leavenworth is no joke.