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Littledeer
01-22-2008, 04:31 PM
Okay, before I go alot farther in this. Just wanted to know if this format can/will help us or make it more confusing???

12/14/07

Marines: CL reports to duty
Marines: CL does not attend X-Mas Party
AMW: Maria does not attend X-Mas Party
AMW: Durham finds Note
Marines: Durham finds Note
Marines: Durham calls Maria's Sister
Marines: Durham talks to Maria's Mother
AMW: Maria reports to work - Ends @ Noon

Just want some ideas in stucturing before I go any further!!!

I'm really trying to make what I think is such a conflicting collection of dates, times, etc. into something that we could as least say,,,,

yea.......that is 2 or 3 times that date/time has been stated, so therefore, we can place some reliance on that as being more true than false.

Or would this just confuse everyone even more than we are now??

STEADFAST
01-22-2008, 09:18 PM
Okay, before I go alot farther in this. Just wanted to know if this format can/will help us or make it more confusing???

12/14/07

Marines: CL reports to duty
Marines: CL does not attend X-Mas Party
AMW: Maria does not attend X-Mas Party
AMW: Durham finds Note
Marines: Durham finds Note
Marines: Durham calls Maria's Sister
Marines: Durham talks to Maria's Mother
AMW: Maria reports to work - Ends @ Noon

Just want some ideas in stucturing before I go any further!!!

I'm really trying to make what I think is such a conflicting collection of dates, times, etc. into something that we could as least say,,,,

yea.......that is 2 or 3 times that date/time has been stated, so therefore, we can place some reliance on that as being more true than false.

Or would this just confuse everyone even more than we are now??

I think it's fantastic!!

SeriouslySearching
01-23-2008, 07:09 AM
Great Job!! I finally got tired of the stupid "server busy" notice and gave up last night.

To be able to see the different reports on what happened and when should help us to weed out the truth among them, I hope. I don't understand how so many entities have such different timelines!!

Also on the 14th: She went to the ATM and to the Bus station. The 5:00pm sighting of her by the attendant there was her last that has been reported, at least.

btbsmith
01-23-2008, 10:46 AM
Okay, before I go alot farther in this. Just wanted to know if this format can/will help us or make it more confusing???

12/14/07

Marines: CL reports to duty
Marines: CL does not attend X-Mas Party
AMW: Maria does not attend X-Mas Party
AMW: Durham finds Note
Marines: Durham finds Note
Marines: Durham calls Maria's Sister
Marines: Durham talks to Maria's Mother
AMW: Maria reports to work - Ends @ Noon

Just want some ideas in stucturing before I go any further!!!

I'm really trying to make what I think is such a conflicting collection of dates, times, etc. into something that we could as least say,,,,

yea.......that is 2 or 3 times that date/time has been stated, so therefore, we can place some reliance on that as being more true than false.

Or would this just confuse everyone even more than we are now??
Here is what I have gathered for 14th...

12 noon - Xmas party (evidently neither Cesar nor Maria attended - recall Maria not attend per USMC timeline)

230pm - Maria talks to mom (source? Dayton Daily?)

420pm - Maria ATM withdraw (Fox Trace Gallagher video of Maria's last steps) NOTE: I also seem to recall a 445pm time for this somewhere.

5pm - 1) Maria at bus station per ticket sales guy, 2) Maria at Laurean's around 5pm per LE according to Trace Gallagher video (he said it is at least 25 minutes from ATM to Laurean's in light traffic)

~7pm - Xtina home? - Think I saw this referenced by Shepherd Smith

Items on 14th w/out times:
1) Durham finds note (USMC)
2) Durham talks to sister (USMC)
3) Durham talks to Maria's mom - was this on the 14th?
4) Xtina at party? Not sure since conflict between 14th and 15th date reported

Littledeer
01-23-2008, 07:47 PM
Posters: I have 24 hours in which I can update this post. So please pm me or email me @ littledeer45@hotmail.com with additions/corrections. Thanks!

12/14/07 to 12/31/07

12/14/07 (Friday)

Marines: CL reports to duty
AMW: Maria reports to work - Ends @ Noon
Noon: Work Ends for X-Mas Party on Base
Marines: CL does not attend X-Mas Party
AMW & Marines: Maria does not attend X-Mas Party
2:30 p.m. Maria talks to Mom (Dayton Daily?)
Maria withdraws $700 from BoFA ATM (Fox video)
ATM timeline w/Maria's card. Transcation images show:

12-14-07 FRI
... 16:19:38 -- Maria? approaches Stage R. Sunglasses. Hoodie sweatshirt.
... 16:19:41 -- Lettering on hoodie spells _AYTON?
... 16:19:49 -- May be DAYTON.
... 16:19:57 -- Maria? looks stage Left (toward her R shoulder)
... 16:20:01 -- Maria? half in shot -- some background visible.
... 16:20:03 -- Maria? w/left hand to chin.
... 16:20:18 --
... 16:20:39 -- Maria (pregnant, hair pulled back, sunglasses) exits stage R.
5:00 p.m. Maria purchases 1 way ticket to El Paso, Texas (Last sighting of Maria)
http://www.wnct.com/midatlantic/nct/news/local_news.apx.-content-articles-NCT-2008-01-11-0006.html
AMW & Marines : Durham finds Note
Marines: Durham calls Maria's Sister
Marines: Durham talks to Maria's Mother

12/15/07 (Saturday)

Cesar tells Christina in Note (found 1/11/08 by Christina) that Maria arrives at their home; went to bus station with Maria to purchase ticket; Maria comes back later in the evening, Maria kills herself.
(Per Christina as told to Sheriff's Office on 1/11/08 and filed in Search Warrant dated 1/12/08).
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/17/missing.marine/index.html
Christina Laurean told police she was at a Christmas party for her husband's Marine unit during the late afternoon and evening of December 15, Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown told CNN. Her husband did not attend the party, she told authorities.

12/16/07 (Sunday)

Fox News: CL borrows shovel from neighbor Alender
AMW: CL @ Lowe's purchases supplies, paint, concret blocks, and wheelbarrow. (On tape)
Alender: Sees CL driving Maria's Car (Could be the 17th)

12/17/07 (Monday)

12/18/07 (Tuesday)

Marines: Maria's Mother Notified by Marines of UA Maria

12/19/07 (Wednesday)

Marines: Ohio LE contacts Military & Sheriff's Office about Maria Missing
AMW: Maria fails to report to work, Durham gives note to CO, CO go to Durhams home, find car missing, personal belongins missing, Maria listed as deserter by Marines
AMW: Maria's cell phone found along HW 24 by stranded motorist, motorist calls Maria's sister, sister says turn phone in

12/20/07 (Thursday)

Marines: Durham notifies CO he is leaving 12/27 to CA for duty

12/21/07 (Friday)

Marines: Base Holiday

12/23/07 (Sunday)

Alander; FOX: Loreans had/held X-Mas eve backyard bonfire with Marine friends.
12/24/07 (Monday)
Marines & AMW: Male withdraws $400.00 from Maria's Bank Account using Marine Federal Credit Union ATM in Jacksonville, NC

ATM timeline w/ Maria's card. Transcation images show:

12-24-07 MON
16:59:36 -- View of lot/street in background.
16:59:38 --
16:59:40 -- Arm in tee-shirt w/knit cap in hand.
16:59:43 -- Knit cap blocking camera shot.
17:00:58 -- Exit stage R. Male. Tee-shirt & jeans. Knit cap on head.
17:01:01 --
17:01:02 -- Car (Maria's?) driving toward stage L in background.
17:01:05 --

Photo below clips: Cesar? Stage R ATM. Knit cap. Tee-shirt w/logo.

Other clip: Cesar later on 12/24 (according to JWalsh on AMW 1/19/8) shopping at Lowes. He's wearing a dark sweatshirt over a light tee-shirt (direct overhead view).

AMW @ http://www.amw.com/fugitives/video_photos.cfm?id=52333
FOX: CL seen shopping @ Lowe's
FOX: Loreans hold X-Mas Eve bonfire with Marine friends in back yard

12/26/07 (Wednesday)

Marines & AMW: Maria misses doctor's appointment.

12/27/07 (Thursday)

Marines: Contact Maria's Mom - Mom states no contact with Maria since 12/14/07.

12/28/07 (Friday)

Marines: Marines collect belongings of Maria's from Durham's home

No activity found from 12/28 to 12/31. (?)

I'm posting the Sheriff's timeline of events as presented in their video.

http://www.wtov9.com/video/15044379/index.html

SeriouslySearching
01-24-2008, 07:08 AM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Excellent, LD!! At least, this gives us a place to start to peel the layers back and maybe find the truth. If we are grappling with the different timelines...what in the world is LE doing?! Are they comparing notes to the other entities and taking stock in the differences? :waitasec:

btbsmith
01-24-2008, 09:38 AM
I have not been able to view the actual videos from the ATMs. Three questions on the ATM videos:

1) It was posted elsewhere that they were from the same ATM - can anyone confirm if they are indeed from the SAME ATM?

2) Was the lettering on the hoodie in red - if so likely "DAYTON" as her mom works for Univ of Dayton. Colors are red and blue - might be grey sweatshirt with red lettering. If so, it IS almost certainly her or at least HER sweashirt.

3) Is it sunny on the first video? Otherwise why wear sunglasses?

Tom'sGirl
01-24-2008, 04:30 PM
It was posted elsewhere that they were from the same ATM - can anyone confirm if they are indeed from the SAME ATM?
NOT, the same ATM!

Maria used a BofA ATM in the 14th..........

Cesar used the Marine Federal Credit Union ATM on Christmas Eve

Seven
01-25-2008, 12:10 AM
I have not been able to view the actual videos from the ATMs. Three questions on the ATM videos:

1) It was posted elsewhere that they were from the same ATM - can anyone confirm if they are indeed from the SAME ATM? . . .

I think I might have been the "elsewhere"! :blushing:
Thx to you, LD and TG for that info.....
I put a correction on my thread.

Oh... you also asked about the sunglasses.
It was 4:20 in the afternoon, so not too
sunny, but the glasses weren't very dark, either.
Maybe she had been crying?


Capture Cesar! :behindbar

Littledeer
01-26-2008, 11:06 AM
Timeline for January 2008 (1/1/08 to 1/16/08)

12/31/07 (Sunday)
Been reported that Loreans held a New Year's Eve bonfire (?) No proof

1/3/08 (Thursday)

Marines: Inventory taken of Maria's belongings and reinventoried.

1/4/08 (Friday)

Marines: Marines request 10 day letter(?). Want additional information from Maria's mother on when Maria called her on 12/14.
(Is this the 3 page letter that Maria's mom writes where she says Maria is bi-polar and a compulsive liar?)

1/7/08 (Monday)

AMW: NCIS learns about cell phone discovery; ATM withdrawals, and Greyhound Bus ticket.
(Someone please pm on date of cell phone discovery and link please!)

Marines Maria's mother and her brother (Name?) show up on base. 1st Indication of foul play by Marines.

AMW: CL questioned as possible witness to Maria's disappearance.
AMW: Lauren asks to leave work to meet with civilian attorney.

1/8/08 (Tuesday)

AMW: Protective Order is reissued. Had lapsed from 12/24 to 1/7 due to administrative oversight.
Marines: 5th WMPO written, effective until 3/28/08.

1/9/08 (Wednesday)

Marines: CL at Sheriff's Office - No Miranda Rights given.

1/10/08 (Thursday)

Marines: CL calls in for leave - to meet with attorneys. Leave approved.
CL calls in for leave later in the day for the possibility of meeting with attorneys on Friday. Leave approved but to call in the am if he cannot not report to work.
FOX: Alander's wife sees X-Tina and CL talking in yard

1/11/08 (Friday)

FOX: Week before 1/11, X-Tina tells Alander's wife that she and CL were painting the inside of garage and some rooms in home.
Marines: CL doesn't call in. Fails to report to work. Is reported UA.
AMW: CL doesn't report to work.
Sheriff's Office holds press conference.
- Maria believed to be dead and buried in Onslow County
- CL considered POI
Christina gives note to authorities
FOX: Alander's wife sees CL in driveway getting ready to leave in his truck @ 6:30 A.M.

1/12/08 (Saturday)

FACT: Remains found in CL's backyard.

1/13/08 (Sunday)

Sheriff: CL spotted @ Shreveport bus station

1/14/08 (Monday)

Autopsy confirms remains are those of Maria and baby GIRL.

1/15/08 (Tuesday)

CL's truck found at Microtel Inn & Suites off Airport Blvd. in Morrisville, NC (less than a mile from Raleigh/Durham airport).

1/16/08 (Wednesday)

Eyewitness News: Two letters sent to X-Tina from CL from Houston, Texas.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5894622


Again, I don't have much time to go hunting around, please pm me or email me @ littledeer45@hotmail.com with info. to insert within the next 24 hours.

Littledeer
01-29-2008, 07:33 PM
TIMELINE PRIOR TO 1214//07

(Special thanks to Steadfast and SS for their help in this timeline)

In this timeline, most of the information is from the Marines unless otherwise noted. (Please keep in mind, I am bringing forward my hastily written notes and therefore, not all information is correct). If someone else, got information from the Marine Press Conference or any later press conference that contradicts what is here, PLEASE PLEASE let me know so correction can be made!)

9/13/04:
Cesar A. Laurean enlists in the U.S. Marine Corps.
4/6/05
Laurean joins his current unit, a combat logistics regiment based at Camp Lejeune, N.C.

6/6/06
Maria Lauterbach enlists in the U.S. Marine Corps.

11/23/06
Lauterbach joins Laurean's unit.

3/26/07

First assault by CL on Maria

4/11/07

Second sexual assault by CL on Maria

5/11/07

Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach reports two encounters of a sexual nature with Cpl. Laurean to her supervisor. She
reported that the first encounter occurred on March 26, the second about two weeks later. At that time, a pregnancy
test was performed, which came back negative. (No rape kit used)
Rape Investigation Opened by NCIS.

5/12/07
1st order given to CL barring any communication or contact with Maria. To stay 1,000 feet away.
Maria moved to another duty office building across from base from Laurean for job duties.
The commander deemed it appropriate to move LCpl Lauterbach as her new duty location co-located her with her Uniform Victim Advocate. At this point, there have been no charges preferred, the evidence did not contain elements of force or threats, and there were no indications Cpl Laurean was a flight risk. The regimental commander considered these factors and Cpl
Laurean’s military character and decided pre-trial restraint was not appropriate.

5/18/07

NCIS inverviews CL and he denies any rape sexual contact with Maria.

5/18/07 to 5/24/07

Maria on leave in Ohio.

5/24/07

Company commander follows up the order of May 12th, with 2nd Military Protective Order effective through June 24th. The MPO was established to preserve the integrity of the investigation and
developing case, it was not based on any perceived threat towards LCpl Lauterbach.

Written order issued barring contact or communication between Lauterbach and Laurean.

May 2007 (Not substantiated anywhere, but adding it in here)

Cesar Laurean tells Christina that he has been accused of rape by a junior Marine.
He tells her that he did not do it. ...

6/19/07 to 6/24/07

Maria takes annual leave to Ohio.

6/25/07

3rd WMPO written eff. until 9/24/07. Again, the MPO is renewed to preserve the integrity of the investigation and developing case, it was not based on any perceived threat towards LCpl Lauterbach. Additionally, there is no indication that LCpl Lauterbach and Cpl Laurean have been in contact in any way.

6/27/07
Maria seeks medical (pregnancy) test. Tests positive for pregnancy. Estimated time of conception is 5/14/07.

7/11/07 to 7/26/07
CL on leave.

8/07

SUPPOSEDLY: A man calls Maria's (Lauterbach's) name and punches her in the face, knocking her down. Maria does not file a formal complaint. Later, somebody keys her blue 2006 Hyundai Sonata from the front door all the way to the back of the tail lights.

NON MARINE DATA: Date (?) Maria tells her mother about confrontation with Christina. Christina calls her a ***** and says "What are you doing to us?"

9/17/07
Maria requests permission to move into off base housing. Request approved 10/31/07.

9/20/07
4th WMPO written. Effective until 12/23/07.

9/26/07 to 10/2/07
Maria on leave.

10/18/07
NCIS recommended no disciplinary action in the rape case "until forensic evidence DNA can be retrieved
from the baby."

10/22/07
Witnesses questioned in rape investigation. Article 22 can have witnesses, questions, etc. New services for Prosecutor to review.

10/31/07
Maria's request to move off base approved.

11/5/07

AMW & Marines: Maria moves off base into home of Sgt. Durham
Trial council reinterviews Maria, at which time she adjusts her statement to say that her pregnancy was not the result of a sexual assault.

11/607 to 11/13/07
Leave for Maria or CL?? Didn't catch who had the leave.

11/26/07
Maria shows for Doctor's Appointment
Her obstetrician said her baby weighed more than 6 pounds.

Trial council discusses what possible charges -- if any -- would be filed against Laurean.


That's it. This part is from Steadfast which I am putting here.

Ashley Dupuis, 19, a friend from boot camp, called in early December to see how Maria was doing.

"She was really down and out," Dupuis recalled. "It was not like her."

Maria once loved the Marine Corps so much she had a USMC bulldog tattooed on her upper right arm.

Now, Dupuis said, "She didn't like it and she wanted to get out."
around Dec 7th Pete Steiner, said that Lauterbach — stung by the harassment that eventually forced her to move off
base — decided to drop the rape case against Laurean the week before she disappeared.

Nothing until 12/14/07 when IMO all hell breaks loose.

btbsmith
01-30-2008, 02:25 PM
11/607 to 11/13/07
Leave for Maria or CL?? Didn't catch who had the leave.

Leave for CL

Littledeer
04-11-2008, 06:42 PM
4/10/08

CL ARRESTED IN MEXICO!!!!!

:woohoo: :woohoo:

This is probably a good time to review the timeline to refresh our memories. I had forgotten some of the facts that we had.