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chicoliving
01-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Police Friday evening were scouring a vacant lot on the Southwest Side after a contract worker found human remains frozen into the ground.

~snip~

The body was possibly that of a child, but the remains were badly decomposed and no determination had been made on the sex or identity of the victim.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-remains_webjan26,0,6986074.story

chicoliving
01-25-2008, 08:46 PM
~snip~

Unconfirmed reports said the remains were found near a blue barrel in a field near the Chicago River.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/760116,swside012508.article

teacherbonnie
01-25-2008, 09:02 PM
Nancy Grace had it on 30 minutes ago. She didn't mention it could be a child. There was a picture of the blue barrel close to something covered. We may not hear much more tonight.

KR2tonenow
01-25-2008, 09:30 PM
or possible Missing person:

ANGELA S. ABRAMS
Case Type: Endangered Runaway DOB: Feb 21, 1990Sex: FemaleMissing Date: Apr 17, 2007Race: HispanicAge Now: 17Height: 5'2" (157 cm)Missing City: CHICAGOWeight: 180 lbs (82 kg)Missing State : ILHair Color: BrownMissing Country: United StatesEye Color: BrownCase Number: NCMC1068696Circumstances: Angela was last seen on April 17, 2007.

Possible other missing from Chicago, IL

ASU2USC
01-25-2008, 10:51 PM
CNN is reporting that police state that the body appears to be that of a female with reddish-blond hair.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/25/body.found/index.html

Drew Peterson's attorney stated "I can tell you, it is not Stacy. I can guarantee you that."

teacherbonnie
01-25-2008, 11:05 PM
Although I've read that the family has been told it is NOT Stacy.... I always thought Drew found a spot so secluded that she'd never be found...and this area is open and visible and a train runs by.

chicoliving
01-26-2008, 12:27 AM
CHICAGO -- Authorities said Friday they have found human remains near the Illinois Sanitary Ship Canal.

The body of a woman was discovered -- along with a blue garbage can.

Authorities said that the body was badly decomposed.

NBC5's Natalie Martinez reported that authorities did not release the woman's race, but they did say her hair was light in color.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/15140963/detail.html?dl=headlineclick

SeriouslySearching
01-26-2008, 12:36 AM
Chicago police Sergeant Eugene Mullins says the remains appear to be those of a white female. The female appeared to have light colored red or blonde hair, said police spokeswoman Monique Bond.

~SNIP~


"It was fairly intact, and it was covered with snow. He didn't want to disturb it of course, so thats when he called 911," said Roy Witherow, Lyons Village Manager. "He stated about 25 feet from the body there was a blue plastic container of some sort that was mostly covered in snow."

Chicago police did not find the blue garbage can, Bond said.

"CPD did not discover any blue container on the scene," she said.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5914962

SeriouslySearching
01-26-2008, 12:39 AM
Body Found Near Chicago River Could be Stacy Peterson

Investigators in Illinois say a decomposed body discovered near the Chicago River very well may be Stacy Peterson. They say the remains of a female with reddish blonde hair bears a striking resemblance to the missing woman who was last seen.

~SNIP~

The body was located in an industrial area. Investigators confirm that it is the body of an adult woman and not a child. An autopsy is scheduled for tomorrow.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/january252008/body_illinois_12508.php

Pharlap
01-26-2008, 08:08 AM
CHICAGO -- Authorities said Friday they have found human remains near the Illinois Sanitary Ship Canal.

The body of a woman was discovered -- along with a blue garbage can.

Authorities said that the body was badly decomposed.

NBC5's Natalie Martinez reported that authorities did not release the woman's race, but they did say her hair was light in color.
The site was located at 34th and Kedzie, and at least six officials could be seen from Sky5 combing through snowy woods. An inspector was touring the site and made the discovery Friday afternoon.


http://www.nbc5.com/news/15140963/detail.html?dl=headlineclick


If you guys have google earth put in "3500 kedzie,chicago illinois"
Go west on map, that's where you start any kind of forest, following the channel, then the arch of the channel a bit further.
The arch is where, I believe the first search took place......

believe09
01-26-2008, 08:17 AM
sounds to me like someone may have found a container, opened it and dumped it...just thinking about it...

SewingDeb
01-26-2008, 10:14 AM
Good thought, believe.

believe09
01-26-2008, 10:25 AM
Now if I were LE, I would instantly state it is not Stacey as well so Drew does not start running...hope at least the press is on him today if not LE. If they do not involve the task force, I suspect they do not have to keep Drew and his attorney apprised of any developments/ID.

MeoW333
01-26-2008, 01:09 PM
Do they mean a blue barrel or blue garbage can? You know those heavy plastic blue barrels?

Littledeer
01-26-2008, 08:03 PM
Due to today's findings of female remains that have been since ruled out not to be Stacy's or Lisa Stebic's, martin has come up with other missing females in the Chicago area.

Possibly a serial killer??

Littledeer
01-26-2008, 08:23 PM
Name: Stephanie C Gibson

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: January 25, 1947
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 197
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Green
Stephanie Gibson was last seen leaving a bar in Peoria, Illinois, with a dark haired man on July 8, 1995. Stephanie has a mental disability. She was last seen wearing black spandex pants, a tight fitting black blouse with diamond shape designs, black tennis shoes, and earrings. Stephanie has a tattoo of a broken heart on her upper left arm.
For more information, please contact Master Sergeant Jan Bogusevic at 309-692-2100, Illinois State Police, Zone 4 Investigations.




Name: Penny Dawn Lease


Gender: Female
Date of Birth: July 23, 1965




Penny was last seen on June 2,1989 leaving the Omni Fitness Center in Champaign, Illinois. Penny was going with a man by the name of Larry Tellez at the time. It is assumed by family that she is by now dead.
If you have any information about Penny please contact Sergeant John Sweighart at the Champaign Police Department at 217-403-6900 or Illinois State Police Crime Scene Investigator Eddie Kamm 217-222-9607 or 800-802-3516.



Name: Janice Kay Matney
A.K.A. Janice Nunez
Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: October 01, 1962
Height: 5'02"
Weight: 145
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Janice was last seen wearing a white sweatshirt, white T-shirt, yellow jogging pants with blue pants over top, brown hiking boots, and a green and white jacket. The circumstances of her disappearance are unknown. Janice was last seen at approximately 11:00pm on April 3, 2002, at her residence in the vicinity of the 200 block of State St. in Ottawa, IL. She has a medical condition.
Ottawa Police Department 815/433-2131


Name: Stacey J Morrison

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: May 05, 1970
Height: 5'3"
Weight: 135
Hair: red
Eyes: Green
Stacey J. Morrison disappeared near the YWCA in Peoria, Illinois on May 20, 1993. She has acne scars on her face and a scar on her upper right leg. She is disabled and is incapable of living alone.
For more informatin contact Tazewell County Sheriff's Office at (309)346-4141, or the I-SEARCH hotline at 1-800-U-HELP-ME


Name: Cheryl L Murray

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: January 20, 1951
Height: 5'2"
Weight: 108
Hair: Blond
Eyes: Blue
Cheryl Murray was last seen in the Peoria, Illinois area and reported missing on April 1, 1994.
For more information, please contact Master Sergeant Jan Bogusevic at 309-692-2100, Illinois State Police Zone 4 Investigations.


Name: Melissa Ann Page

Race: African-American
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: June 14, 1967
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 105
Hair: Black
Eyes: Brown
Melissa Ann Page was last seen on September 17, 1990, at the Oasis Tavern in Lockport, Illinois. Ms. Page has a scar over her right eye and was last seen wearing black coveralls with white blouse, black leather jacket and black shoes.
For additional information, contact Ms. Cinda Lubich, Illinois State Police I SEARCH Clearinghouse Manager, at 217/524-8522 or the Will County, Illinois, Sheriff’s Department at 815/727-8575.



Name: Loretta L Tinkham

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: November 19, 1963
Height: 4'10"
Weight: 97
Hair: red
Eyes: Hazel
Loretta Tinkham was last seen in the Peoria, Illinois area and reported missing on November 3, 1994.
For more information, please contact Master Sergeant Jan Bogusevic at 309-692-2100, Illinois State Police, Zone 4 Investigations.

chicoliving
01-26-2008, 08:29 PM
~snip~

The woman died of multiple stab wounds, according to an autopsy conducted Saturday by the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Bond said police do not yet know the age of the victim or how long the body had been in the field, but the remains appear to be those of a white female with light reddish blond hair.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-080126stacy-peterson-not-story,0,3938281.story

Littledeer
01-26-2008, 08:32 PM
Wonder if any of the above might be the remains that were found yesterday??

If there is a thread for any of them, would someone please post the link or if not, at least what thread they are in? (i.e. missing, crime, etc.)

Sedona
01-26-2008, 08:35 PM
Name: Stephanie C Gibson

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: January 25, 1947
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 197
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Green
Stephanie Gibson was last seen leaving a bar in Peoria, Illinois, with a dark haired man on July 8, 1995. Stephanie has a mental disability. She was last seen wearing black spandex pants, a tight fitting black blouse with diamond shape designs, black tennis shoes, and earrings. Stephanie has a tattoo of a broken heart on her upper left arm.
For more information, please contact Master Sergeant Jan Bogusevic at 309-692-2100, Illinois State Police, Zone 4 Investigations.




Name: Penny Dawn Lease


Gender: Female
Date of Birth: July 23, 1965




Penny was last seen on June 2,1989 leaving the Omni Fitness Center in Champaign, Illinois. Penny was going with a man by the name of Larry Tellez at the time. It is assumed by family that she is by now dead.
If you have any information about Penny please contact Sergeant John Sweighart at the Champaign Police Department at 217-403-6900 or Illinois State Police Crime Scene Investigator Eddie Kamm 217-222-9607 or 800-802-3516.



Name: Janice Kay Matney
A.K.A. Janice Nunez
Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: October 01, 1962
Height: 5'02"
Weight: 145
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Janice was last seen wearing a white sweatshirt, white T-shirt, yellow jogging pants with blue pants over top, brown hiking boots, and a green and white jacket. The circumstances of her disappearance are unknown. Janice was last seen at approximately 11:00pm on April 3, 2002, at her residence in the vicinity of the 200 block of State St. in Ottawa, IL. She has a medical condition.
Ottawa Police Department 815/433-2131


Name: Stacey J Morrison

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: May 05, 1970
Height: 5'3"
Weight: 135
Hair: red
Eyes: Green
Stacey J. Morrison disappeared near the YWCA in Peoria, Illinois on May 20, 1993. She has acne scars on her face and a scar on her upper right leg. She is disabled and is incapable of living alone.
For more informatin contact Tazewell County Sheriff's Office at (309)346-4141, or the I-SEARCH hotline at 1-800-U-HELP-ME


Name: Cheryl L Murray

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: January 20, 1951
Height: 5'2"
Weight: 108
Hair: Blond
Eyes: Blue
Cheryl Murray was last seen in the Peoria, Illinois area and reported missing on April 1, 1994.
For more information, please contact Master Sergeant Jan Bogusevic at 309-692-2100, Illinois State Police Zone 4 Investigations.


Name: Melissa Ann Page

Race: African-American
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: June 14, 1967
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 105
Hair: Black
Eyes: Brown
Melissa Ann Page was last seen on September 17, 1990, at the Oasis Tavern in Lockport, Illinois. Ms. Page has a scar over her right eye and was last seen wearing black coveralls with white blouse, black leather jacket and black shoes.
For additional information, contact Ms. Cinda Lubich, Illinois State Police I SEARCH Clearinghouse Manager, at 217/524-8522 or the Will County, Illinois, Sheriff’s Department at 815/727-8575.



Name: Loretta L Tinkham

Race: White
Gender: Female
Date of Birth: November 19, 1963
Height: 4'10"
Weight: 97
Hair: red
Eyes: Hazel
Loretta Tinkham was last seen in the Peoria, Illinois area and reported missing on November 3, 1994.
For more information, please contact Master Sergeant Jan Bogusevic at 309-692-2100, Illinois State Police, Zone 4 Investigations.

I was looking at this earlier and Firefox locked up on me and had found a site saying a man named Davis was due to be put to death (but died of a heart attack instead) and believed to be linked to some of these murders around that time frame, they never did find out for sure.

There is a gap there and that usually indicates the killings stopped, maybe because Davis was their man.

:waitasec:

Anyway, here is the section and link I gathered that info from.

Gibson is one of several missing women from the Peoria area; others include Loretta Tinkham (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tinkham_loretta.html), and Cheryl Murray (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/murray_cheryl.html). Another woman named Sheryl Murwin vanished from Peoria in 1994; her skull was found in 2001 and identified in 2003. Authorities do not know if the cases are related, but it is possible that the women came into contact with Davis. He died after suffering a heart attack on death row in October 2002. Davis consistently maintained his innocence in the disappearances. Several unidentified female bodies have been located in the Peoria area in recent years, but the victims are not believed to be related to the missing women's cases.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gibson_stephanie.html

capps
01-26-2008, 08:41 PM
"There is a gap there and that usually indicates the killings stopped, maybe because Davis was their man."

Possibly,but then again,look at BTK.He had long stretch between killings.

Sedona
01-26-2008, 08:44 PM
"There is a gap there and that usually indicates the killings stopped, maybe because Davis was their man."

Possibly,but then again,look at BTK.He had long stretch between killings.

Yep, nothing is impossible. Especially when it comes to the truly crazy.

SeriouslySearching
01-26-2008, 09:24 PM
Awwww how sad that this woman had to endure that type of horrible death. I do hope we find out who she is soon and the person responsible is caught.

Cubby
01-27-2008, 12:41 AM
I'm confused. Why was this moved from the unidentified forum to the stacy peterson forum if police have already stated she is NOT SP?

Taximom
01-27-2008, 12:45 AM
I'm confused. Why was this moved from the unidentified forum to the stacy peterson forum if police have already stated she is NOT SP?

LOL, Cubby, I'm glad you noticed that too.

I was just rubbing my eyes and wondering the same thing. I thought maybe she HAD been id'd as Stacy.

chicoliving
01-27-2008, 12:46 AM
Nope it was an oops.

Cubby
01-27-2008, 12:49 AM
Thanks, I thought I was seeing things too and maybe she had been id'd as SP after all. Had to go check the news.

Taximom
01-27-2008, 12:55 AM
Sure got my attention. Well, darn.

Multiple stab wounds. There has to be some bloody evidence somewhere for this crime. :(

dee10134
01-28-2008, 12:41 PM
I'm wondering if it's possible if this murder is related to the Chicago Jane Doe/Marlaina "Nikki" Reed murder...

dee10134
01-28-2008, 01:50 PM
Is there any other info we can go on besides the facts (and rumor) below?

Facts:
- Victim is white
- Victim has reddish blonde hair (some reports say "light reddish blonde")
- Victim's age is unknown
- Victim was stabbed multiple times
- Victim was badly decomposed
- Victim was frozen to the ground
- Victim was found just South of the Chicago Sanitary & Ship Canal about a 100 feet from the railroad tracks in a field behind a trucking company in the 3400 block of South Kedzie Avenue in Chicago
- Victim was found on Friday January 25th at about 1:18 p.m.
- Victim was found by a surveyor for the Village of Lyons
- Victim is NOT Stacy Peterson or Lisa Stebic per Monique Bond of the Chicago Police Department ("The finding was based on experts' review of the physical attributes of the remains.")

Rumor:
- Victim was apparently on the smaller side (since it was rumored that it was possibly an adolescent's body initially)

dee10134
01-28-2008, 03:23 PM
Possible?

Heather Marie McCord of Lake Villa, IL missing since 12/29/2007: http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1086428&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
I performed a search on MySpace for Heather McCord within 100 miles of 60601 (Chicago's downtown zip code) and found a 16 year old Heather McCord living in Machesney Park, IL (near Rockford), unsure if it's her... http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43879805

Sable
01-28-2008, 10:05 PM
Nancy Grace is featuring this story tonight.

dee10134
01-29-2008, 09:02 AM
Nancy Grace is featuring this story tonight.

I wouldn't call it "featuring" it. I turned her on at 7PM CST and she was talking about the body and how it is not Stacy Peterson then turned the discussion into talking about DP. Then went on to Cesar Laurean and the arrest warrant issued by Mexican offficials.

I don't know what happened on her 9PM CST show, as I didn't watch it...

Angel4Alpha
01-29-2008, 06:18 PM
I'm wondering if it's possible if this murder is related to the Chicago Jane Doe/Marlaina "Nikki" Reed murder...I'm also wondering the same thing.

Teresa Larson
01-30-2008, 02:06 AM
I wouldn't call it "featuring" it. I turned her on at 7PM CST and she was talking about the body and how it is not Stacy Peterson then turned the discussion into talking about DP. Then went on to Cesar Laurean and the arrest warrant issued by Mexican offficials.

I don't know what happened on her 9PM CST show, as I didn't watch it...


The show that is on at 9 is a repeat of the show that comes on at 7 :)

Cubby
01-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Possible?

Heather Marie McCord of Lake Villa, IL missing since 12/29/2007: http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1086428&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
I performed a search on MySpace for Heather McCord within 100 miles of 60601 (Chicago's downtown zip code) and found a 16 year old Heather McCord living in Machesney Park, IL (near Rockford), unsure if it's her... http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43879805

Maybe. Lake Villa is so far north from where this body was found. I'd wonder why she'd run that far south.
Also, I don't believe this has anything to do with Marlaina "niki" Reed. The distance between Chicago's Humboldt Park Neighborhood and Lyons is too great.

I've been searching but have not found any additional news on this body.

dee10134
01-30-2008, 02:32 PM
The show that is on at 9 is a repeat of the show that comes on at 7 :)

Not in Chicago. The one at 9 is usually the current one and the one at 7 is the repeat usually from the night before. LOL

dee10134
01-30-2008, 02:34 PM
Maybe. Lake Villa is so far north from where this body was found. I'd wonder why she'd run that far south.
Also, I don't believe this has anything to do with Marlaina "niki" Reed. The distance between Chicago's Humboldt Park Neighborhood and Lyons is too great.

I've been searching but have not found any additional news on this body.

I think the myspace I found is Heather's anyways. Machesney Park is MUCH closer to Lake Villa and makes sense that she'd run away to Rockford, since it's near her.

chicoliving
01-30-2008, 02:56 PM
Frozen human remains found Friday afternoon in a Southwest Side field were those of a 41-year-old woman who had been stabbed to death, officials said Wednesday.

The family of Carolyn Schranz, of an unspecified address, went to the Cook County medical examiner's office to confirm her identity on Wednesday, an office spokeswoman said. Schranz died of multiple stab wounds, according to an autopsy conducted Saturday.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-human-remainsjan31,0,3162033.story

dee10134
01-30-2008, 05:24 PM
RIP Carolyn. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/767760,0130justicewoman.article

SeriouslySearching
01-30-2008, 07:52 PM
Bless her heart. I hope they find the person responsible and justice will be done for Carolyn. She is at home where she belongs now.

My heart does go out to her family. I cannot imagine the shock and horror they faced finding out it was her.

It makes me sick to see how many families have to go through this because someone decided it was their choice to take a life.

chicoliving
01-31-2008, 03:44 AM
~snip~

Schranz was reported missing by her mother in October.

"She tried so hard to get her life cleaned up," said mom Rebecca Stowers. "The drugs were stronger than she was."

Stowers' decades-long nightmare had its worst possible ending last Friday when the body of her drug-addicted daughter was found frozen, stabbed and dismembered in a snow-covered field on the city's Southwest Side.

"Nobody should die like that," Stowers said. "I don't care what her lifestyle was."

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5925065

DeltaDawn
02-04-2008, 02:00 PM
So sad, and so sorry for the family. Rest in Peace Carolyn.

chicoliving
03-03-2008, 01:51 PM
In the weeks after Rebecca Stowers' drug-addicted daughter disappeared, she could tell nobody cared much.

Certainly not as much as they cared about Stacy Peterson, whose disappearance from her Bolingbrook home has drawn national media attention.

Then she bumped into State Police Sgt. Steve Loan at a Summit White Hen, and everything changed.

Stowers' story still ends on a bitter note, despite all of her searching. Her daughter, Carolyn Schranz, was identified as the woman whose frozen body was found last month, stabbed to death, on the South Side.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/822447,CST-NWS-body03.article