Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #2

[Rick777]

There is enough out there about this guy that we should have had some answers by now. At least a suspect or two brought in to question. That leads me to think that the person that might know something (wife, girlfriend) fears for thier own life. I don't know...

[Reannan]

Sorry to be a pest, but does anyone know if the Myspace account has been forwarded to LE yet???

[Rick777]

Sorry to be a pest, but does anyone know if the Myspace account has been forwarded to LE yet???

I have'nt heard. I hope so..

[bigbuck]

Do you know this for a fact. The LE are busting their Arse working on this case.They are doing one thing people here forget. the have rules and laws they MUSt follow.And if you think the LE is going to tell the public all they know think again. they will not tip their hand to let the Perp get away.

Is this the same LE that wasted valuable time because they believed there was NO connection between this and the other cases in the area, untill the perps DNA jumped up and bit them on the ARSE?? I think Reno LE could use some help from some of the posters here.

[Rick777]

Is this the same LE that wasted valuable time because they believed there was NO connection between this and the other cases in the area, untill the perps DNA jumped up and bit them on the ARSE?? I think Reno LE could use some help from some of the posters here.


LE was quick to dismiss connections to the prior assaults. I hafta say.

[LionRun]

Do you know this for a fact. The LE are busting their Arse working on this case.They are doing one thing people here forget. the have rules and laws they MUSt follow.And if you think the LE is going to tell the public all they know think again. they will not tip their hand to let the Perp get away.

Hi JDB:). I also heard on NG last night that a number of LE members are working OT, and then they are sent home to rest. Yet, some are coming back on their own time after three hours because they want to find Brianna and the perp. Being a good detective takes having a good mind, talent for investigative work, and dogged determination and commitment. There may be an LE member here or there who lacks these qualities. Heck, look at Drew Petersen. But, I agree that most are a good group of skilled, dedicated people.

Lion

[Reannan]

Dimples found the Myspace right? I am going to PM her and see if she has sent it on, or wants it to be done.

[Rick777]

Dimples found the Myspace right? I am going to PM her and see if she has sent it on, or wants it to be done.


SS may have passed that on?

[10EC_Dad]

Is this the same LE that wasted valuable time because they believed there was NO connection between this and the other cases in the area, untill the perps DNA jumped up and bit them on the ARSE?? I think Reno LE could use some help from some of the posters here.

Nice to see some modesty on the board.

It is frustrating that the perp has not been identified. But let's not redirect our anger related to the perp to the very ones trying hard to capture him.

We are, after all, on the outside looking in. At this point, we can't determine if they have been negligent.

Let's support the LE in their efforts.

[aj1020]

Sorry,if my comment bothered you so!

It didn't bother me that you said it, just reminded me that if it wasn't her it probably would have been someone else. I didn't mean any offense to you if you took it that way.

[SuziQ]

Paddy, thanks. That's interesting info. My bets are a combo of these two: Anger retaliatory and Anger excitation.

[10EC_Dad]

It's true it not being about the sex. There are four types of rapist.
Power assertive: Atheletic, macho type image himself. Usually commits date rapes, picks his victims up in a bar or nightclub. Instead of targeting
a specific victim. He is physically aggressive, will use the amount of force needed to control you, degrading or filthy language, slapping or punching, banshies a weapon, but does not intend to kill you.
Anger retaliatory: He feels animosity towards women wants to punish & degrad them. Possible subtance abuser, impulsive & has explosive temper.
Looks for opportunity to commit rape than for a specific victim. He attacks spontaneously & brutalizes his victim into submission. He's not looking to kill, but resistance may well enrage him in to doing so.
Power-reassurance: Lacks self confidence, & skills to develope relationships with women. Passive & nonathletic. Lives or works near his victims and pre-selects by peeping or stalking. Uses minimal force , he is the least violent type, does not intend to kill you.
Anger excitation: A sadist, derives sexual gratification from inflicting pain.Charming & intelligent. His crime is premeditated & rehearsed methodically in his mind. His victims may or may not be stranges. He will tie, gag & blindfold & likes to torture. He is the most criminally sophisticated & is difficult to catch him. He often kills his victims, either rid himself of a witness or to gratify a psychosexual need.
Sorry this is so long but wanted to ask your opinion on which you believe to be most like perp".

Anger-retialiatory & Power-ressurance

[nanandjim]

Maybe, it is common in that area, but the guy at the Myspace has a Raiders' chair in one of his photos. So, he is a Raiders' fan. This guy has "Architectural Metal" listed as his occupation. What the heck is that?? His wife is in a single cab (red) truck in one of the photos and is working on a white truck in another photo. Does his job allow him access to trucks? Could they work on friends' trucks? In any case, it seems like they like trucks!

What was Dimples looking for when s/he found this guy? What lead to his Myspace?

[dee10134]

It's true it not being about the sex. There are four types of rapist.
Power assertive: Atheletic, macho type image himself. Usually commits date rapes, picks his victims up in a bar or nightclub. Instead of targeting
a specific victim. He is physically aggressive, will use the amount of force needed to control you, degrading or filthy language, slapping or punching, banshies a weapon, but does not intend to kill you.
Anger retaliatory: He feels animosity towards women wants to punish & degrad them. Possible subtance abuser, impulsive & has explosive temper.
Looks for opportunity to commit rape than for a specific victim. He attacks spontaneously & brutalizes his victim into submission. He's not looking to kill, but resistance may well enrage him in to doing so.
Power-reassurance: Lacks self confidence, & skills to develope relationships with women. Passive & nonathletic. Lives or works near his victims and pre-selects by peeping or stalking. Uses minimal force , he is the least violent type, does not intend to kill you.
Anger excitation: A sadist, derives sexual gratification from inflicting pain.Charming & intelligent. His crime is premeditated & rehearsed methodically in his mind. His victims may or may not be stranges. He will tie, gag & blindfold & likes to torture. He is the most criminally sophisticated & is difficult to catch him. He often kills his victims, either rid himself of a witness or to gratify a psychosexual need.
Sorry this is so long but wanted to ask your opinion on which you believe to be most like perp".

Honestly, I think our perp may be a combination of Power Assertive and Power Reassurance since he used force on his victim (choking) (power assertive) but brought her home, meaning he didn't intend on killing her (power reassurance).

ETA: I think the perp saw Brianna either at the snowboarding event or the casino party afterwards and followed her back to KT and Jessica's house and just waited until everyone was in their beds asleep to strike.

Maybe we should look into participants/attendees at the snowboarding event. Was the prior victim interested in snowboarding and was possibly at an event? Or was she a partier too? I have a feeling it may all boil down to the snowboarding event though....

[bigbuck]

Anger-retialiatory & Power-ressurance

Ditto.

And Dad, I meant no disrespect to LE. It's just so damn frustrating watching these young women losing there lifes to someone's sick fantasies!

:furious:

[nanandjim]

Do the victims have any similiar physical characteristics (like all have long brown hair)? Just wondering if this guy has a certain type...

[10EC_Dad]

Maybe, it is common in that area, but the guy at the Myspace has a Raiders' chair in one of his photos. So, he is a Raiders' fan. This guy has "Architectural Metal" listed as his occupation. What the heck is that?? His wife is in a single cab (red) truck in one of the photos and is working on a white truck in another photo. Does his job allow him access to trucks? Could they work on friends' trucks? In any case, it seems like they like trucks!

What was Dimples looking for when s/he found this guy? What lead to his Myspace?

What do any of think is the purpose of this person's myspace account? I don't think he is trying to pickup dates if he has posted pictures of his family.

How many people in Reno are married, have a Raiders shirt, and owns a truck?

This may be the guy, but I will be surprised. The logic and stats are very suspect.

[SeriouslySearching]

I was just on Google Earth looking at the topography of the area. I think Lion mentioned the girl said something about an incline. If you go from Virginia St. over to N. Sierra St. then north...there is a considerable incline right there near Mackay Court.

[paddy01]

Honestly, I think our perp may be a combination of Power Assertive and Power Reassurance since he used force on his victim (choking) (power assertive) but brought her home, meaning he didn't intend on killing her (power reassurance).

ETA: I think the perp saw Brianna either at the snowboarding event or the casino party afterwards and followed her back to KT and Jessica's house and just waited until everyone was in their beds asleep to strike.

Maybe we should look into participants/attendees at the snowboarding event. Was the prior victim interested in snowboarding and was possibly at an event? Or was she a partier too? I have a feeling it may all boil down to the snowboarding event though....

So far 3 different opinions on "perp", I thought the same as you, (Power reassurance/Power assertive. IMO, he escalated to Power assertive. Curious now on others opinion. BTW, thanks dee for PM.

[dee10134]

INFO ON THE SWAT-72 SNOWBOARD FESTIVAL: http://www.swatup.com/trips/college-trips/swat-72.html

Describes "lodging accomodations" at Circus Circus and the Sands Regency casinos and the Too $hort concert.

INFO ON SWAT: http://www.swatup.com/

I'm assuming Brianna and her friends went to the SWAT-72 festival, then hooked up with some friends at either Circus Circus or Sands, saw the Too $hort concert, then maybe they hooked up with some guys, but somewhere along the way that night, I think she met the perp.

[10EC_Dad]

Ditto.

And Dad, I meant no disrespect to LE. Its just so damn frustrating watching these young women losing there lifes to someones sick fantasy!

:furious:

It certainly is!

I am glad I am not the LE. So much is riding on their decisions. That is a huge responsibility that mostly goes unappreciated.

By the way, I am not LE. I do have friends and relatives that are. I really gained respect for them several years ago while listening to a scanner while they were pursuing a bank robber. A K-9 officer lost his life, another officer was shot. There were several "leads" that placed the suspect all over the city. A major interstate was practically next door. that had to be shut down since it was thought the suspect was on foot, armed and obviously willing to kill. The officer in charge stayed calm, made the best decisions he could with time, manpower, and information available. They caught the suspect within hours but he could have easily slipped away with any bad decisions.

Afterwards, I compared the officer in charge's day with a bad day at my work and gained alot of respect for LE. To top that, they are not the highest paid professionals.

[panthera]

I was just on Google Earth looking at the topography of the area. I think Lion mentioned the girl said something about an incline. If you go from Virginia St. over to N. Sierra St. then north...there is a considerable incline right there near Mackay Court.
Do we have an article or information on how much time the perp spent with the Dec. 16 victim or when she was found? I know it wasnt anywhere near as long as Brianna's been missing but am trying to figure out where he might have taken Brianna.

[SeriouslySearching]

INFO ON THE SWAT-72 SNOWBOARD FESTIVAL: http://www.swatup.com/trips/college-trips/swat-72.html

Describes "lodging accomodations" at Circus Circus and the Sands Regency casinos and the Too $hort concert.

INFO ON SWAT: http://www.swatup.com/

I'm assuming Brianna and her friends went to the SWAT-72 festival, then hooked up with some friends at either Circus Circus or Sands, saw the Too $hort concert, then maybe they hooked up with some guys, but somewhere along the way that night, I think she met the perp.Brianna was picked up by Jessica who dropped her off at KT's because KT wasn't ready to go to the concert. The two girls did not end up going to the concert, but met up with Jessica again outside the venue afterwards where they all went to the Sands. There were over 600 rooms (IIRC) rented out to that group and where the parties were held.

[nanandjim]

What do any of think is the purpose of this person's myspace account? I don't think he is trying to pickup dates if he has posted pictures of his family.

How many people in Reno are married, have a Raiders shirt, and owns a truck?

This may be the guy, but I will be surprised. The logic and stats are very suspect.
Oh, thanks so much for your insight... :rolleyes:

In any case, I don't know how his Myspace was discovered in the first place. Second, Edwin Hall, for example, was quiet and mild-mannered. His wife absolutely adored him; and he had a child. He is suspected of kidnapping and murdering Kelsey Smith. So, it does happen.

I would also like to know a little more about how this guy was found in the first place. Does anyone know?

[panthera]

So far 3 different opinions on "perp", I thought the same as you, (Power reassurance/Power assertive. IMO, he escalated to Power assertive. Curious now on others opinion.
I think Power reassurance, at least at this point.

[dee10134]

Promo Video on YouTube for SWAT-72 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKPeluSe2XM&feature=related

Looks like one HUGE drunken college party! No wonder they were out til 4 am!

[dee10134]

SWAT-72 MySpace Page: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=260628717

[SeriouslySearching]

Well, of course it is!! College students mixing it up with extreme sports kids! LOL

[dee10134]

Well, of course it is!! College students mixing it up with extreme sports kids! LOL

LOL!

Seriously though, maybe the perp worked in one of the casinos or at the SWAT event? Maybe as a lift-ticket sales clerk or something in that facility...

[SeriouslySearching]

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[dee10134]

I think we need to look for someone into snowboarding, that owns a truck, and was possibly at that SWAT event (either an attendee or employee)...

[Rick777]

I think we need to look for someone into snowboarding, that owns a truck, and was possibly at that SWAT event (either an attendee or employee)...


That doesn't explain the other related assaults in the same area when SWAT wasn't in town.

[SeriouslySearching]

What are the chances that this guy happened to pick out another girl from the hundreds in that venue that lived blocks from his first victim? I don't think he was at this event.

A serious snowboarder wouldn't have a belly roll either, imo. They seem to be very athletic and fit. Snowboarding is very physically demanding and you need to be in good condition.

[panthera]

I think we need to look for someone into snowboarding, that owns a truck, and was possibly at that SWAT event (either an attendee or employee)...
But there were also assaults on 11/13 & 12/16.

[Rick777]

What are the chances that this guy happened to pick out another girl from the hundreds in that venue that lived blocks from his first victim? I don't think he was at this event.

A serious snowboarder wouldn't have a belly roll either, imo. They seem to be very athletic and fit. Snowboarding is very physically demanding and you need to be in good condition.


True, but beer is beer. :crazy:

[Rick777]

Well this crappy weather sure can't be helping any search.

[10EC_Dad]

Oh, thanks so much for your insight... :rolleyes:

In any case, I don't know how his Myspace was discovered in the first place. Second, Edwin Hall, for example, was quiet and mild-mannered. His wife absolutely adored him; and he had a child. He is suspected of kidnapping and murdering Kelsey Smith. So, it does happen.

I would also like to know a little more about how this guy was found in the first place. Does anyone know?

I suspect that this perp has similar characteristics as Edwin.

My point is, what makes this guy from Myspace a real suspect?

[10EC_Dad]

What are the chances that this guy happened to pick out another girl from the hundreds in that venue that lived blocks from his first victim? I don't think he was at this event.

A serious snowboarder wouldn't have a belly roll either, imo. They seem to be very athletic and fit. Snowboarding is very physically demanding and you need to be in good condition.

SS, I like how you are thinking this through. This guy is a local that has picked this area as his "playground".

[Rick777]

SS, I like how you are thinking this through. This guy is a local that has picked this area as his "playground".

Well the reason he picked this area is because it is the location of many UNR co-eds. He's not hanging out at the old folks home.

[10EC_Dad]

Well the reason he picked this area is because it is the location of many UNR co-eds. He's not hanging out at the old folks home.

No doubt, as I said before, this area is "target rich" for him.

As you pointed out, he "picked" this area.

I think that is the first qualifier, then next is the victim, then perhaps the opportunity. I may have the last two reversed.

[nanandjim]

I suspect that this perp has similar characteristics as Edwin.

My point is, what makes this guy from Myspace a real suspect?
That's why I asked how dimples located this particular person.

This guy's wife had a child on 1/23. He currently lives in Sparks, NV. He also has lived in Reno and Las Vegas. I believe that this guy is a handyman, which means that he probably drives a truck or has access to a company truck. He could also use this as an excuse to get away at various hours.

I agree with you that this describes a million people. We need to know how he was picked as a possible person of interest in the first place. Does anyone know??

[10EC_Dad]

That's why I asked how dimples located this particular person.

This guy's wife had a child on 1/23. He currently lives in Sparks, NV. He also has lived in Reno and Las Vegas. I believe that this guy is a handyman, which means that he probably drives a truck or has access to a company truck. He could also use this as an excuse to get away at various hours.

I agree with you that this describes a million people. We need to know how he was picked as a possible person of interest in the first place. Does anyone know??

I really don't know how this guy was picked. I am concerned that he quickly became a suspect on this board. It was the requested more than once that he be sugested as a suspect to LE. That is alarming to me.

[Reannan]

I really don't know how this guy was picked. I am concerned that he quickly became a suspect on this board. It was the requested more than once that he be sugested as a suspect to LE. That is alarming to me.

This guy is NOT a suspect, he is a potential suspect. Law enforcement are begging the public to please point anyone out to them that they possibly think could match the description that has been given. Quote from the Reno Police Department web site: "Any information, no matter how seemingly insignificant, should be brought to our attention,"

I think this guy was spotlighted because he physically matches the description we have of the suspect, he drives a truck that could match the description of the vehicle, he is a Raiders fan (not sure what that reference was about - but apparently, there was something about the Raiders???), he has a baby that could have explained the baby shoe in the truck. I believe LE probably has some cards that they have not yet shown, and would be able to quickly rule in or rule out this guy. They can look into past arrest records, etc. I do not feel that we have invaded his privacy because we have not put his MySpace on here for everyone to see. Personally, I think if someone places any information about theirselves on the internet, we don't really have to be judicious about keeping it private, but it is a courtesy that posters here and at other sites I visit routinely follow. This guy may be the nicest person in the world....if he is, he would applaud anyone doing anything they could to find Brianna. If he is the perpetrator, and we do nothing before another girl is assaulted or goes missing, then we should be ashamed. We are not LE, but I do believe that we can augment what LE is doing. Look how much time WE have spent on this - LE can't possibly sit and surf for MySpace accounts, dating site accounts, etc. of local people who "sort of look like the guy". When we find one that looks like a fairly good match, they can take it from there.

[nanandjim]

This guy is NOT a suspect, he is a potential suspect...I think this guy was spotlighted because he physically matches the description we have of the suspect, he drives a truck that could match the description of the vehicle, he is a Raiders fan (not sure what that reference was about - but apparently, there was something about the Raiders???), he has a baby that could have explained the baby shoe in the truck. I believe LE probably has some cards that they have not yet shown, and would be able to quickly rule in or rule out this guy. They can look into past arrest records, etc...
Actually, this guy has three children. They all must be very small. He had a boy born in the summer of 2006. So, that could have been this baby's shoe in his truck. I wish that they would look at this guy. He does meet the criteria. If LE is begging for info, they should at least check out this guy.

[LionRun]

Well the reason he picked this area is because it is the location of many UNR co-eds. He's not hanging out at the old folks home.

I think he may have a certain type of victim he fixates on--young, pretty, petite, etc.. But, I also think he chose the area that he is attacking because it is within his territorial comfort zone. It would be a challenge if he were a long haul trucker because his comfort zone would be all across various states on many major highways. But, he is attacking in one very small, localized area. There may be few people who have such a small territorial range, and this may say something about him in general. This could be his downfall. Or at least I hope it or something else is and quick.

I hope he is caught soon before he attacks someone else. He may be able to hold off for awhile due to the fear of being caught due to national publicity. But, eventually his cooling off period will have ended, and he will, "need to go on the hunt" again.

Lion

[LionRun]

I really don't know how this guy was picked. I am concerned that he quickly became a suspect on this board. It was the requested more than once that he be sugested as a suspect to LE. That is alarming to me.

I understand and agree with you Dad that it is a good idea to be careful and have ample reason to call in a tip. The guy on myspace has some of the possible characteristics as were described that the perp has. But, chances are so do thousands of others in Reno alone. If there was one more thing about him that did point in that direction like he talked about having dominance over women, or that he liked trolling for girls in the wee hours in addition then I might call it in. I may be hesitant and cautious than most, though.

Lion

[JDB]

I really don't know how this guy was picked. I am concerned that he quickly became a suspect on this board. It was the requested more than once that he be sugested as a suspect to LE. That is alarming to me.

I like the way you think.I really would hate to even resemble a prep on this board.I am just gald no one has mentioned his name.

[10EC_Dad]

This guy is NOT a suspect, he is a potential suspect. Law enforcement are begging the public to please point anyone out to them that they possibly think could match the description that has been given. Quote from the Reno Police Department web site: "Any information, no matter how seemingly insignificant, should be brought to our attention,"

I think this guy was spotlighted because he physically matches the description we have of the suspect, he drives a truck that could match the description of the vehicle, he is a Raiders fan (not sure what that reference was about - but apparently, there was something about the Raiders???), he has a baby that could have explained the baby shoe in the truck. I believe LE probably has some cards that they have not yet shown, and would be able to quickly rule in or rule out this guy. They can look into past arrest records, etc. I do not feel that we have invaded his privacy because we have not put his MySpace on here for everyone to see. Personally, I think if someone places any information about theirselves on the internet, we don't really have to be judicious about keeping it private, but it is a courtesy that posters here and at other sites I visit routinely follow. This guy may be the nicest person in the world....if he is, he would applaud anyone doing anything they could to find Brianna. If he is the perpetrator, and we do nothing before another girl is assaulted or goes missing, then we should be ashamed. We are not LE, but I do believe that we can augment what LE is doing. Look how much time WE have spent on this - LE can't possibly sit and surf for MySpace accounts, dating site accounts, etc. of local people who "sort of look like the guy". When we find one that looks like a fairly good match, they can take it from there.

I am not doubting your intentions.

I have not seen the Myspace site, nor do I want to.

Maybe you can help me get better understand how he is suspect.

Does he have a square jaw, with facial hair as described for the perp? Is he 5 feet 6 to 5 feet 8? Does he have a semi firm belly? Is his pubic area shaved? Does he have an innie?

Is his truck a dark color with a dome light above the windshield? Is the radio in the truck aftermaket with red and blue lights?

Or is this just a guy in his 30's with a young child, drives a truck, likes the Raiders, and happens to have a Myspace account?

If everyone in Reno turned in a friend that meets that general description, the LE would be spending hours chasing rabbits.

There is a guy in Reno that meets the very specific description given for the perp. There are people who live near him, work with him, perhaps sees him on a daily basis. Those people will have to give the tip.

This board is intresting to try to "solve" the crime and exchange ideas. It is a great way to learn about the criminal mind.

It bothers me when it becomes a place to bash the LE and witch hunt.

Most of you have been here longer than I have. I may be off base with my comments. If so, I do appologize. Sometimes its just good to have a conversation to keep each other on track. It's not done to be contrary for the sake of argument.

Let me know if I am out of line.

[dimples37398]

Ok...lemme...clear some of the questions up for everyone. This guy first and foremost is not a suspect(not sure who refered to him as such).

I was just browsing myspace profiles that were within 5 miles from the area she was in. . I put the criteria in, 5'7-5'9, 31-37, proud parent, white. There was only 4 pages with 5 or so profiles on each page.....so not a whole lot to look at in the first place.

I was browsing through the pages since LE states that any tip no matter the significance was needed. This one profile stuck out before clicking on it because it had a graphic with the wording...."I can see you Mastur****" I am sure you know what word I am referencing there. It is a graphic with the pope....and that wording on there.

I clicked on the profile and he has a long face, square jaw, chin hair stuff, a extended cab truck, the type of truck he has some seem to have the dome light up front. He has small baby/toddler size kids, had a raiders item in a photo.

So there was enough there IMO to atleast have them check it out. Honestly looking through photos there aren't really that many men that people would classify as having a long face/square jaw. IMO it would have to be pretty noticeable for that to be something that the victim mentioned or remembered.

I mean that isn't something that you really hear mentioned in suspect descriptions alot, long face...

I haven't mentioned his name or posted his myspace anywhere and yes I did send the tip in and let them know that I didn't know this guy or have any definite evidence that he was involved in anyway whatsoever. I did tell them the things that matched up IMO only.

HTH clear some of it up,
Kel

[Rick777]

Ok......so after all the hoopla about this myspace guy, I did some searching of my own. I have to say in the age range of 26-33...90% of all guys in the Reno area have a goatee, a kid or two, and a big truck!

:waitasec:

[nanandjim]

...It bothers me when it becomes a place to bash the LE and witch hunt...
Sorry, guy, but this is a site where we brainstorm and speculate, like it or not. As others have said, no one has posted this guy's Myspace or mentioned his name. So, I personally think that your outrage is out of line.

To answer some of your questions:
*This guy has facial hair.
*He has an "innie."
*He has what could be considered a square jaw.
*He is in the right age frame.
*He is slightly overweight (with belly fat).
*He doesn't appear that tall. He claims to be 5'9". So, knowing guys, that means that
he is 5'7" or 5'8". I see photos with his friends and him; and he appears to
be the shortest.
*Cops can figure out what kind and color of his trucks.
*He has three small children. At least, one would have had "baby" shoes at that time.
*It appears that he sculptures the hair on his chest and shaves below his chest.
*He lives in the area where the abductions and rapes are occurring.

Who knows what is going on in the mind of the rapist/abductor? Perhaps, he feels that his life is spinning out of control. Perhaps, he is overwhelmed. Maybe, he feels helpless. Rape is about control. Brianna is so little. Perhaps, the abductor accidentally killed her or maybe she fought back and that made him mad enough to kill her.

[Rick777]

Ok...lemme...clear some of the questions up for everyone. This guy first and foremost is not a suspect(not sure who refered to him as such).

I was just browsing myspace profiles that were within 5 miles from the area she was in. . I put the criteria in, 5'7-5'9, 31-37, proud parent, white. There was only 4 pages with 5 or so profiles on each page.....so not a whole lot to look at in the first place.

I was browsing through the pages since LE states that any tip no matter the significance was needed. This one profile stuck out before clicking on it because it had a graphic with the wording...."I can see you Mastur****" I am sure you know what word I am referencing there. It is a graphic with the pope....and that wording on there.




I clicked on the profile and he has a long face, square jaw, chin hair stuff, a extended cab truck, the type of truck he has some seem to have the dome light up front. He has small baby/toddler size kids, had a raiders item in a photo.

So there was enough there IMO to atleast have them check it out. Honestly looking through photos there aren't really that many men that people would classify as having a long face/square jaw. IMO it would have to be pretty noticeable for that to be something that the victim mentioned or remembered.

I mean that isn't something that you really hear mentioned in suspect descriptions alot, long face...

I haven't mentioned his name or posted his myspace anywhere and yes I did send the tip in and let them know that I didn't know this guy or have any definite evidence that he was involved in anyway whatsoever. I did tell them the things that matched up IMO only.

HTH clear some of it up,
Kel


You did some good sleuthing. I'm impressed!:clap:

[dimples37398]

I sent in this tip only because if a name were released and I had decided not to turn the tip in, then they said well she was alive until so and so date, or this other victim could have been saved.......

I would have guilt forever, so I sent it in and said in the tip upfront, I have no evidence nor do I know this guy, but here are some things that do match the description, and then listed the things.

[dimples37398]

TY Rick......I learned from the best of them....:woohoo: :)

[Rick777]

I sent in this tip only because if a name were released and I had decided not to turn the tip in, then they said well she was alive until so and so date, or this other victim could have been saved.......

I would have guilt forever, so I sent it in and said in the tip upfront, I have no evidence nor do I know this guy, but here are some things that do match the description, and then listed the things.


You hafta follow your instinct! It would suck to find out later you were right!

[nanandjim]

I sent in this tip only because if a name were released and I had decided not to turn the tip in, then they said well she was alive until so and so date, or this other victim could have been saved.......

I would have guilt forever, so I sent it in and said in the tip upfront, I have no evidence nor do I know this guy, but here are some things that do match the description, and then listed the things.
I'm glad that you sent in this tip. I hope that they take you seriously. I think that this guy should be checked out. To me, he could very well fit the profile. I was wondering if all of the victims have long, dark hair, like his wife?

[newshound81]

LE has also been saying through the newspapers that anyone brought in for questionning can be cleared through submitting to a DNA check. This guy may be POed if LE decides to call him in, but if he has nothing to hide, he knows he'll be in the clear when his DNA doesn't match up. There might be many people having to go through this in order to eliminate suspects and find the man and Brianna.

[dimples37398]

I hope they atleast run things through their computer as far as this guy goes.

On this myspace page that we are talking about, it does show a photo of an extended cab dark gray truck, I looked up the type of truck(interior photos) some of them do have the dome light up front near the windshield and a skinny console.

[Reannan]

Dad, you are NOT out of line. (That was strange - saying "Dad" you're not out of line.....:crazy: ). I think your questions and concerns are valid. To try and answer your questions:

1. Does he have a square jaw, with facial hair as described for the perp?
Yes, he does.

2. Is he 5 feet 6 to 5 feet 8?
He claims to be 5' 9"

3. Does he have a semi firm belly?
When he is standing, but not when he is sitting.

4. Is his pubic area shaved?
Thankfully, this isn't revealed on MySpace. He does have a hairy chest and hairy legs, but there is no hair below the belly button down to the belt line of his shorts; therefore, he either shaves or is smooth below the belly button down to the belt line of his shorts.

5. Does he have an innie?
Yes

6. Is his truck a dark color with a dome light above the windshield? Is the radio in the truck aftermaket with red and blue lights?
His current vehicle is a dark blue Dodge 15000 quad cab. No pictures of the inside of his vehicle.

Honestly, reading the stuff on his account, he seems like a really great guy who loves his family. I have learned that almost anyone is capable of the deepest darkest evil, however. I try to stick with facts, and that is why I find this guy a bit suspicious. Oh, and another thing.....he has Too Short listed as one of his favorite bands - isn't that the concert that was in town that night???

[nanandjim]

LE has also been saying through the newspapers that anyone brought in for questionning can be cleared through submitting to a DNA check. This guy may be POed if LE decides to call him in, but if he has nothing to hide, he knows he'll be in the clear when his DNA doesn't match up. There might be many people having to go through this in order to eliminate suspects and find the man and Brianna.
He might be upset, but in the grand scheme of things, he should be thankful that the police are trying to keep the streets and homes safe. He, after all, has a wife and three children.

[dimples37398]

WoW Reannan I didn't even notice the favorite bands and the Too Short Connection, and yes that is the band that the girls were said to have went and seen that night.

Kel

[StillHoping]

I guess I can understand both sides on this myspace thing. Dad, I understand your concerns and why you feel that way. With that said, I wanted to remind everyone, that within an hour of Edwin Hall's arrest, at least 2 forums, including this one, had keyed in on his myspace, and there were not even any pictures of him released to media yet. And actually, IIRC, someone had already brought up his myspace before we knew his name or that he was at the police station, simply as a possible suspect.

Being that this man's myspace info and name were not released publicly on this forum, and also that he, himself, has chosen to PUBLICY display this information, I am not too worried about his privacy. Any person on this forum can look up the same information that dimples did. One of Dad's concerns is that "Possible" tips like this could bog down the local LE, and potentially tie them up with invalid info. But not turning in the tip could just as easily cause harm to the case, because he DOES fit the profile, at least the publicly known profile.

Having posted my oppinions, I am up in the air about it still.

[newshound81]

He might be upset, but in the grand scheme of things, he should be thankful that the police are trying to keep the streets and homes safe. He, after all, has a wife and three children.


I agree.

[Leviosa]

newshound, SuzyQ, 10EC, SS, nanandjim, ALL others,

Again, a magnificent job. If I was a perp, I'd stay close to this site because I do feel that we are getting very, irily close.

I don't believe that Brianna was this perpetrators intended target. As for me, she just wasn't in town or especially at the residence long enough for anyone to really have scoped this out.

Inasmuch as the Dec. 16th victim was not raped, rather, "…forced to do (perform) a sex act on him…" it makes me very curious about what, and where the DNA reference they do have came from. It further bothers me that these people involved as LE aren't sharing the information in a more timely fashion.

Also, someone please, puleez PM me this MySpace account of interest. I like the assessment of Ted Bundy; however, I don't see this perp near as violent (that's why the DNA is important to me...) and I do feel that Brianna is still alive. This person does not sound like a murderer.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to assist anyone else here. Cheers!

Leviosa :rolleyes:

[KansasCutie]

Promo Video on YouTube for SWAT-72 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKPeluSe2XM&feature=related

Looks like one HUGE drunken college party! No wonder they were out til 4 am!

oh goodness that looked like so much fun...

poor girl probably was excited about that night for weeks and most likely was having such a good night :(

[10EC_Dad]

Thanks for the input everyone.

I'm sure everyone has done what they thought is best.

I guess I am just a little more conservative than some.

[10EC_Dad]

Ok......so after all the hoopla about this myspace guy, I did some searching of my own. I have to say in the age range of 26-33...90% of all guys in the Reno area have a goatee, a kid or two, and a big truck!

:waitasec:

Too funny! I am glad you don't know about their shaving habits too!

http://websleuths.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif

[SeriouslySearching]

Don't forget that the guy in the myspace also had a good friend of his die in October 2007 (weeks before the first attack). Traumatic event coupled with the birth of a child could be a possible trigger for a spree for a rapist.

No, he is not a suspect or a person of interest (only interesting to us). It is up to LE to do what it wants with such a tip, but if no one sends it to them...then they could be missing a key piece to their puzzle. Myspace pages are public and we do try to protect the people we discuss here...until such a time they are named by LE.

I don't have ANY problem with sending LE this one, but in the past I have had reservations. However, I believe there was enough which met their criteria to give them the opportunity to check it out.

[swa]

If the perp has a family -- she is not still alive. I'm assuming she fought back and he probably killed her.

The good news is that if he has a family -- he cannot afford to quit his job, etc. -- so it's very possibly they will catch him in the area.



newshound, SuzyQ, 10EC, SS, nanandjim, ALL others,

Again, a magnificent job. If I was a perp, I'd stay close to this site because I do feel that we are getting very, irily close.

I don't believe that Brianna was this perpetrators intended target. As for me, she just wasn't in town or especially at the residence long enough for anyone to really have scoped this out.

Inasmuch as the Dec. 16th victim was not raped, rather, "…forced to do (perform) a sex act on him…" it makes me very curious about what, and where the DNA reference they do have came from. It further bothers me that these people involved as LE aren't sharing the information in a more timely fashion.

Also, someone please, puleez PM me this MySpace account of interest. I like the assessment of Ted Bundy; however, I don't see this perp near as violent (that's why the DNA is important to me...) and I do feel that Brianna is still alive. This person does not sound like a murderer.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to assist anyone else here. Cheers!

Leviosa :rolleyes:

[SeriouslySearching]

I have to agree. I don't think he has been holding her all this time. It takes great effort to keep someone for days when you have a nationwide search on for the person. If he does have a family, it would be almost impossible to keep things normal at home.

Oh...another note on the myspace guy...His wife left a comment that he was "not at home with her" on November 17th (4 days after the other attack) , but made no mention of where he was. Interesting. Does he often travel for work?

[concernedperson]

I have to agree. I don't think he has been holding her all this time. It takes great effort to keep someone for days when you have a nationwide search on for the person. If he does have a family, it would be almost impossible to keep things normal at home.

Oh...another note on the myspace guy...His wife left a comment that he was "not at home with her" on November 17th (4 days after the other attack) , but made no mention of where he was. Interesting. Does he often travel for work?

All I can say after reading this thread for days is that it was a very good tip sent in. It is up to LE to investigate. There is no reason not to investigate. Kudos to all who such great sleuthers.

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh, I forgot to mention here that even tho I did find out his name the long route...Dimples found it first...she looked on the baby's crib in the photo! She is amazing! : )

[JDB]

oh goodness that looked like so much fun...

poor girl probably was excited about that night for weeks and most likely was having such a good night :(

Gee I wonder how many under age kids were Drinking???

[SeriouslySearching]

Greta is on and going over things we already know here.

John Zunino, the uncle, is on now making a plea for someone to turn him in. Describing Brianna as a loving person who "hung out with everyone". He is saying the family hasn't given up hope at all. Greta mentioned he was using terms in the past tense talking about Brianna. He is now asking for volunteers. (Greta mentioned Tim Miller.)

Mark F. is now talking about the case. He said he is probably married or divorced and has kids. He said that they don't understand the escalation unless he got word that the other witness had given a lot of information and he decided he couldn't leave a witness again. He thinks it was an opportunist...seeing her and then entering.

[SeriouslySearching]

Gee I wonder how many under age kids were Drinking???This was Brianna's 3rd year attending this bash so she was 16 when she started. I don't understand where LE was...knowing this behavior was going on with 600 kids. What is the deal? Can't they go into the Sands?

[nanandjim]

Greta just had Mark Fuhrman on discussing the case. Maybe, someone could have Mark check out the Myspace guy. I would send him a note, but I don't know how to get in touch with him, though. Heck, I'd send him a note just to say hello because I think that Mark is a cutie... :blushing:

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't know how you would get in touch with Mark other than through Greta unless they have an email address for him on Fox news site. (I think he gets more handsome with age...not sure if it is HIS age or mine tho. LOL)

[Reannan]

Here is some information that I have not seen before. It is from the America's Most Wanted website (amw.com). The girl who was from Taiwan that was attacked on 12/16/07 should have a good handle on the guy's voice. He told her "If you tell the police, I will kill you." That is great news from a forensics point of view because she may be able to listen to a simple phone call and help identify him!!!! :clap: The AMW site goes on to say this:
"the assailant grabbed the female from behind, forced her to the ground and attempted to choke her with her right arm. He then placed his right hand over her nose and mouth which caused her to pass out. When she began to regain consciousness, the suspect forced her into the front passenger seat."

The article goes on to say: "After the attack, he drove her back to her residence where he dumped her off and threatened "he might be back." GRRRRRR :furious: :furious: :furious: What a creep!!! Honestly, I think if some azzhole did this to me, and then said that "he might come back", I would go insane and be HIS worst nightmare for all of eternity!!!! AGHHGHGH!!!:banghead:

Here is some additional information:
"Police believe that the December attack is linked to an attempted burglary at the same residence on Jan. 19, 2008, the day before Brianna Denison went missing. Authorities say that in the January incident, someone attempted to enter the victim's home by breaking off a door knob at the rear of the residence."
So.....we have this azzhole who assaults and verbally threatens this poor girl from Taiwan on 12/16/07, and he returns to her place and tries to enter almost a month later - on 1/19/08. He then abducts Brianna the next morning, 1/20/08. Breaking off a door knob is not easy. Sure makes me think construction worker, or something along those lines.

And here, is information about why the victim did not see his face:
"Cops say that despite having her face covered with her hooded sweatshirt, the victim was also able to provide details about the attacker's vehicle."

Here is information about the first victim:
"In the Nov. 13 incident, a 21-year-old UNR student was walking through an apartment parking lot at 401 College Drive, when an unknown male assailant approached her from behind and put her in a chokehold. The suspect dragged the victim between cars, pushed her to the ground and groped her. As she fought and yelled, he told he not to scream. The victim continued to scream and started kicking her attacker. The assault stopped after the suspect kicked the victim in the head and arm and ran away."

Looks like AMW is going to be a good source of information. Here is a link:
http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=52576

[KR2tonenow]

I sent in this tip only because if a name were released and I had decided not to turn the tip in, then they said well she was alive until so and so date, or this other victim could have been saved.......

I would have guilt forever, so I sent it in and said in the tip upfront, I have no evidence nor do I know this guy, but here are some things that do match the description, and then listed the things.

Dimples, go with your gut on this, you did the right thing:)

[SeriouslySearching]

It is some new information. So he did approach from behind and used his hand to cut off the air by holding it over her nose and mouth. It is also new that he threatened to kill her. Yes, she could recognize his voice.

If he used the other victim's hooded sweatshirt to cover her face, it would make sense that he used the teddy bear in the same manner. She wasn't wearing anything he could use to that advantage.

The victim being from Taiwan seems to rule out that he goes for a particular "type".

Breaking off a doorknob would be loud! He probably used a tool such as a tire iron, imo. No one is going to use their fist to try to break off a doorknob, but then I guess they could kick at it. This wouldn't point to his intelligence as it would draw attention to someone trying to break in. I wonder what stopped him since it was only an attempted burglary? (A construction worker wouldn't use this method to break in, imo. They would be more "tool" oriented and try to jimmy the lock or a window.)

While this time they did come up with some things, AMW usually has problems with details being right and they run behind the media a lot.

[Reannan]

I was surprised at the information on AMW also. They alluded to an "inside source". Good night you guys - keep at it. I have to get some sleep since work stars early tomorrow. I feel guilty going to sleep. My rational brain tells me that Bri isn't with us anymore. My heart hopes that she is being held, and if we can only find the missing link to the puzzle, LE can rescue her. You guys are great as usual. :blowkiss:

[SeriouslySearching]

G'nite, Reannan! Don't feel guilty about going to sleep because people are depending on you and besides...you know we have got the "nightshift" here covered!

Thanks for finding that info on AMW!! Interesting!! Gives me lots of food for thought tonight! Kudos!

[KR2tonenow]

Dad, you are NOT out of line. (That was strange - saying "Dad" you're not out of line.....:crazy: ). I think your questions and concerns are valid. To try and answer your questions:

1. Does he have a square jaw, with facial hair as described for the perp?
Yes, he does.

2. Is he 5 feet 6 to 5 feet 8?
He claims to be 5' 9"

3. Does he have a semi firm belly?
When he is standing, but not when he is sitting.

4. Is his pubic area shaved?
Thankfully, this isn't revealed on MySpace. He does have a hairy chest and hairy legs, but there is no hair below the belly button down to the belt line of his shorts; therefore, he either shaves or is smooth below the belly button down to the belt line of his shorts.

5. Does he have an innie?
Yes

6. Is his truck a dark color with a dome light above the windshield? Is the radio in the truck aftermaket with red and blue lights?
His current vehicle is a dark blue Dodge 15000 quad cab. No pictures of the inside of his vehicle.

Honestly, reading the stuff on his account, he seems like a really great guy who loves his family. I have learned that almost anyone is capable of the deepest darkest evil, however. I try to stick with facts, and that is why I find this guy a bit suspicious. Oh, and another thing.....he has Too Short listed as one of his favorite bands - isn't that the concert that was in town that night???

Great work!! Now, how do we know if RPD will follow through?

[SeriouslySearching]

We don't, but we did our part.

[KR2tonenow]

We don't, but we did our part.

and excellent work at that. GN!

[SeriouslySearching]

Probably not him, but if we were pulling needles out of a haystack (which we are)...it sure looks like a pointy, shiny thing with a hole in its head. : )

[Rick777]

I guess if the perp came upon Brianna from the side door by the couch, she might appear asian with her long dark hair, and small stature? I doubt he was just looking to assault asians though.

[philamena]

If this has already posted, please delete:
Texas Team Joins Search For Missing College Coed
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/14977211.html

(January 30, 2008)—Searchers from the Laura Recovery Center for Missing Children in Friendswood and the Polly Klaas Foundation in California are organizing teams to search for a missing 19-year-old college coed who may have been kidnapped.

[philamena]

I guess if the perp came upon Brianna from the side door by the couch, she might appear asian with her long dark hair, and small stature? I doubt he was just looking to assault asians though.


Tonight on Greta, Mark F. said the perp most likely is an opportunist. Mark said the opportunity to take Brianna was there since the door was unlocked and no one but Brianna was around.

[Rick777]

I always trust what Fuhrman says. He's really good at what he does.
I know....I know.....SS thinks he gets more handsome with age. :crazy:
So do I!!!!

Clarify- I also get better looking with age, not..I agree with SS that Fuhrman does. *whew*

[philamena]

bahaaaa glad you explained that Rick!:D

[SeriouslySearching]

I always trust what Fuhrman says. He's really good at what he does.
I know....I know.....SS thinks he gets more handsome with age. :crazy:
So do I!!!!

Clarify- I also get better looking with age, not..I agree with SS that Fuhrman does. *whew*LOL I knew what you meant! It is really not fair. Men grow "distinguished" while women just get gray and wrinkled. :mad:

[Tori2]

Hi all,
Don't get to get on here much during the school year, but I can't sleep! I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but I didn't see it. Yesterday on the Mike and Juliette show they had the police chief on. He verified that the blood was Brianna's and one of the hosts asked him if the DNA of the guy was semen. He actually started to answer that and then said he couldn't say exactly what it was, but then, he went on to say that natural oils on fingers can leave a transfer or something and that is what this guy left. So, he did tell them!

This site is so great...always learn more here than on TV!!

T.

[Bobbisangel]

LOL I knew what you meant! It is really not fair. Men grow "distinguished" while women just get gray and wrinkled. :mad:


Don't forget saggy! I think Mark F gets better looking with age to...of course the older I get the worse my eyes are...just kidding. I really like Mark F and have always liked him. I think he got royally screwed at that killer...OJ Simpson's trial. He was the scapegoat and I can't believe how many people bought that nonsense. Mark is also really good at what he does. Who is he an investigative reporter for...which station...CNN? He is on Nancy Grace a lot. That is why I am thinking CNN.

[dee10134]

That doesn't explain the other related assaults in the same area when SWAT wasn't in town.

Maybe there were other snowboarding events occurring.

I never was implying that the perp was an "out of towner". I'm quite confident that he's a resident of Reno because of his apparent familiarity with the area.

Maybe he's an alumni of the university...

[dee10134]

What are the chances that this guy happened to pick out another girl from the hundreds in that venue that lived blocks from his first victim? I don't think he was at this event.

A serious snowboarder wouldn't have a belly roll either, imo. They seem to be very athletic and fit. Snowboarding is very physically demanding and you need to be in good condition.

You don't have to be a snowboarder to attend the event LOL.

[guestwriter]

Thank you Utopia for the welcome. I do not live in Reno. I am an intuitive and have certain ideas on what may have happened. I know many of you don't believe in intuitives however after reading websleuths for many years....I find all of you very intuitive and perhaps aren't aware of how much you all know and are close to being right. I find it interesting that this guy has not actually raped anyone yet that we know of...I feel he has been on the rape schooling tract for many years...and he perused the neighborhood either because of the other girls or he saw Brianna out and followed her. Remember the first victim screamed and he ran away.,the second one he grabbed her from behind, rendered her unconscious somehow and then forced her to perform an act on him and then took her home..(what a date) he thinks he's a nice guy. And the last one that we know of is Brianna and he kidnaps her along with a 2ft stuffed bear. This is a man child. He is building up his courage. His perversions are escalating. I have felt that she was being held as a pet...Someone else a female knows about this and is not wanting to go to the police cause of complicity. What if the vehicle belongs to the other person who didn't know he was using that vehicle. He has to have another car. I believe he works in the area and lives 10-15 minutes away. I believe he kept her in the area close for a few days but she has been moved. I felt he was a white male around 26 years old, looks young for his age, smiles alot...These are totally my feelings..no facts

I am putting this in a higher powers hands and praying for a grateful, safe outcome for Brianna and her family...Blessings to all

[dee10134]

Sorry, guy, but this is a site where we brainstorm and speculate, like it or not. As others have said, no one has posted this guy's Myspace or mentioned his name. So, I personally think that your outrage is out of line.

To answer some of your questions:
*This guy has facial hair.
*He has an "innie."
*He has what could be considered a square jaw.
*He is in the right age frame.
*He is slightly overweight (with belly fat).
*He doesn't appear that tall. He claims to be 5'9". So, knowing guys, that means that he is 5'7" or 5'8". I see photos with his friends and him; and he appears to be the shortest.
*Cops can figure out what kind and color of his trucks.
*He has three small children. At least, one would have had "baby" shoes at that time.
*It appears that he sculptures the hair on his chest and shaves below his chest.
*He lives in the area where the abductions and rapes are occurring.

(snip)

Perhaps MySpace guy has absolutely NOTHING to do with this and you have LE going to his house, disrupting his family and his life, for your little witch hunts! Perhaps the real perp is smart enough NOT to have a MySpace page. Perhaps he has a Facebook page. Perhaps he doesn't advertise his life on the Internet at all.

I sure as hell would hate to look like anyone that's wanted for a crime... especially around you guys! :rolleyes:

[Rick777]

Thank you Utopia for the welcome. I do not live in Reno. I am an intuitive and have certain ideas on what may have happened. I know many of you don't believe in intuitives however after reading websleuths for many years....I find all of you very intuitive and perhaps aren't aware of how much you all know and are close to being right. I find it interesting that this guy has not actually raped anyone yet that we know of...I feel he has been on the rape schooling tract for many years...and he perused the neighborhood either because of the other girls or he saw Brianna out and followed her. Remember the first victim screamed and he ran away.,the second one he grabbed her from behind, rendered her unconscious somehow and then forced her to perform an act on him and then took her home..(what a date) he thinks he's a nice guy. And the last one that we know of is Brianna and he kidnaps her along with a 2ft stuffed bear. This is a man child. He is building up his courage. His perversions are escalating. I have felt that she was being held as a pet...Someone else a female knows about this and is not wanting to go to the police cause of complicity. What if the vehicle belongs to the other person who didn't know he was using that vehicle. He has to have another car. I believe he works in the area and lives 10-15 minutes away. I believe he kept her in the area close for a few days but she has been moved. I felt he was a white male around 26 years old, looks young for his age, smiles alot...These are totally my feelings..no facts

I am putting this in a higher powers hands and praying for a grateful, safe outcome for Brianna and her family...Blessings to all

Thats an excellent theory. One I hope is accurate because it would mean Brianna is alive. The only way he would not have killed her is if he had female help because all signs point to this guy as having a family, and Brianna would be too hard to keep for too long without becoming a huge burden. I hope you are right!

[Rick777]

Perhaps MySpace guy has absolutely NOTHING to do with this and you have LE going to his house, disrupting his family and his life, for your little witch hunts! Perhaps the real perp is smart enough NOT to have a MySpace page. Perhaps he has a Facebook page. Perhaps he doesn't advertise his life on the Internet at all.

I sure as hell would hate to look like anyone that's wanted for a crime... especially around you guys! :rolleyes:


Perhaps you are right, but what if you are wrong? What if this info leads to something? Sometimes you hafta follow your gut instinct, and thats what is happening here.

If he happened to be the guy...a major case is solved! If he's not the guy...maybe some feelings will be hurt. Whats better?

[dee10134]

oh goodness that looked like so much fun...

poor girl probably was excited about that night for weeks and most likely was having such a good night :(

I bet she was SOOO excited for it! I'm willing to bet she planned this for months in advance and couldn't wait to come home from college in Santa Barbara to attend the event, concert, and parties!

Plus, it was the last weekend before classes resumed, so I'm pretty sure her and her friends were out to live it up and have the time of their lives before it was back to business!

It really sucks that something so tragic had to happen when all they wanted to do was let loose and have some fun, but I guess that's when we're at our most vulnerable! :furious:

[dee10134]

This was Brianna's 3rd year attending this bash so she was 16 when she started. I don't understand where LE was...knowing this behavior was going on with 600 kids. What is the deal? Can't they go into the Sands?

They have two events. One is called SWAT for high school kids and the other one is called SWAT-72 which is for college kids. From what I understand they happen at different times and different locations, but who's to say Brianna didn't have a fake ID (it's pretty obvious she did or she wouldn't have been able to drink in the casino clubs).

[dee10134]

(snip)

The article goes on to say: "After the attack, he drove her back to her residence where he dumped her off and threatened "he might be back." GRRRRRR :furious: :furious: :furious: What a creep!!! Honestly, I think if some azzhole did this to me, and then said that "he might come back", I would go insane and be HIS worst nightmare for all of eternity!!!! AGHHGHGH!!!:banghead:

(snip)

He'd have a rude awakening if he tried breaking into MY place!

There's nothing like a big dog and a shotgun to chase away a perp!

[dee10134]

(snip)

The victim being from Taiwan seems to rule out that he goes for a particular "type".

Breaking off a doorknob would be loud! He probably used a tool such as a tire iron, imo. No one is going to use their fist to try to break off a doorknob, but then I guess they could kick at it. This wouldn't point to his intelligence as it would draw attention to someone trying to break in. I wonder what stopped him since it was only an attempted burglary? (A construction worker wouldn't use this method to break in, imo. They would be more "tool" oriented and try to jimmy the lock or a window.)

While this time they did come up with some things, AMW usually has problems with details being right and they run behind the media a lot.

I disagree on the "type" theory. I think the perp prefers small, petite women with long, dark hair. The Taiwanese woman was petite, as was Brianna. Both were small, around 100 lbs. IIRC.

This would make sense considering he took the Taiwanese victim from behind. He probably did the same to Brianna. He probably prefers smaller women because they're easier to control and probably has a preference for women with long dark hair. He could also be going after long haired women because he can use the hair to his advantage (by pulling/grabbing it) to control them further.

BTW, if the plate at the base of the doorknob has screws on it, he could remove the screws on the plate to facilitate easy removal of the doorknob.

[Rick777]

He'd have a rude awakening if he tried breaking into MY place!

There's nothing like a big dog and a shotgun to chase away a perp!

Oh Dee. You sound like Grandma on the Beverley Hillbillies. :)
Remember....perps don't usually just come running at you yelling and telling you what they are gonna do to you, they use surprise as thier key action.

[dee10134]

Thank you Utopia for the welcome. I do not live in Reno. I am an intuitive and have certain ideas on what may have happened. I know many of you don't believe in intuitives however after reading websleuths for many years....I find all of you very intuitive and perhaps aren't aware of how much you all know and are close to being right. I find it interesting that this guy has not actually raped anyone yet that we know of...I feel he has been on the rape schooling tract for many years...and he perused the neighborhood either because of the other girls or he saw Brianna out and followed her. Remember the first victim screamed and he ran away.,the second one he grabbed her from behind, rendered her unconscious somehow and then forced her to perform an act on him and then took her home..(what a date) he thinks he's a nice guy. And the last one that we know of is Brianna and he kidnaps her along with a 2ft stuffed bear. This is a man child. He is building up his courage. His perversions are escalating. I have felt that she was being held as a pet...Someone else a female knows about this and is not wanting to go to the police cause of complicity. What if the vehicle belongs to the other person who didn't know he was using that vehicle. He has to have another car. I believe he works in the area and lives 10-15 minutes away. I believe he kept her in the area close for a few days but she has been moved. I felt he was a white male around 26 years old, looks young for his age, smiles alot...These are totally my feelings..no facts

I am putting this in a higher powers hands and praying for a grateful, safe outcome for Brianna and her family...Blessings to all

Excellent theory. I hope to God that she is being held as a "pet" somewhere. That way she's got a chance of being found alive!

[dee10134]

Perhaps you are right, but what if you are wrong? What if this info leads to something? Sometimes you hafta follow your gut instinct, and thats what is happening here.

If he happened to be the guy...a major case is solved! If he's not the guy...maybe some feelings will be hurt. Whats better?

I don't know that "hunting" presumably innocent people on the Internet is the way to solve a case or not. Nor do I know if Myspace guy is the perp or not. My gut says he's not. Of course I've been wrong about lots of things, but my gut says no, he's not the guy.

[dee10134]

Oh Dee. You sound like Grandma on the Beverley Hillbillies. :)
Remember....perps don't usually just come running at you yelling and telling you what they are gonna do to you, they use surprise as thier key action.

So do I......... LOL

Grandma, huh? I'm in my 20s and originally from Chicago... LMAO! :blowkiss:

[Rick777]

I don't know that "hunting" presumably innocent people on the Internet is the way to solve a case or not. Nor do I know if Myspace guy is the perp or not. My gut says he's not. Of course I've been wrong about lots of things, but my gut says no, he's not the guy.


Hunting for evidence is what we do here. That guy just seemed to fit so many of the things we know about the perp. The odds are HIGHLY against him being the guy, but as long as his name isn't put out there, he's not being wronged.

[Rick777]

So do I......... LOL

Grandma, huh? I'm in my 20s and originally from Chicago... LMAO! :blowkiss:


hahahahahaha...ok...a very YOUNG grandma!

[paddy01]

I disagree on the "type" theory. I think the perp prefers small, petite women with long, dark hair. The Taiwanese woman was petite, as was Brianna. Both were small, around 100 lbs. IIRC.

This would make sense considering he took the Taiwanese victim from behind. He probably did the same to Brianna. He probably prefers smaller women because they're easier to control and probably has a preference for women with long dark hair. He could also be going after long haired women because he can use the hair to his advantage (by pulling/grabbing it) to control them further.

BTW, if the plate at the base of the doorknob has screws on it, he could remove the screws on the plate to facilitate easy removal of the doorknob.

I think he picks petite woman for the simple fact that he can overpower them easier than a large frame woman. Most asian women are petite. He would have more control over them. I was tickled to death that the one victim kicked him in the head & fought back!

[SuziQ]

Reno police are asking the public to be aware of anyone who might have changed his personality, appearance or might have suddenly moved or sold a truck, following the announcement of a revised suspect vehicle description in the Brianna Denison abduction.
Wednesday was the 10th day since Denison disappeared from a home near the University of Nevada, Reno campus. Authorities have linked her abductor to the man who kidnapped and raped a UNR student on Dec. 16. Police said they believe the suspect lives in the area and is familiar with the neighborhood where the student was assaulted and Denison was abducted. (more at link)
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NEWS01/801310338/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

[SeriouslySearching]

Hi all,
Don't get to get on here much during the school year, but I can't sleep! I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but I didn't see it. Yesterday on the Mike and Juliette show they had the police chief on. He verified that the blood was Brianna's and one of the hosts asked him if the DNA of the guy was semen. He actually started to answer that and then said he couldn't say exactly what it was, but then, he went on to say that natural oils on fingers can leave a transfer or something and that is what this guy left. So, he did tell them!

This site is so great...always learn more here than on TV!!

T.Welcome to WS, Tori2! I didn't see it and I am so glad you brought it up!! I keep saying there are other forms of DNA and I am having a difficult time believing he left seminal fluid or his blood at the scene.

Off topic, this is a great place to come when you can't sleep. You can read forever here! I come here first before I check out news sites. LOL If it is news from anywhere...it usually is picked up by a sleuth or Chicoliving immediately! (WTG, Sleuths!)

[SuziQ]

According the the link above, it appears that LE has not gotten any significant tips. This tells me that this guy is so off the radar that no one suspects him at all. LE needs to hold pressers telling the public that exact thing and beg, beg and beg for tips.

[newshound81]

According the the link above, it appears that LE has not gotten any significant tips. This tells me that this guy is so off the radar that no one suspects him at all. LE needs to hold pressers telling the public that exact thing and beg, beg and beg for tips.

The police are saying the suspect could have already left the area, which may be why no one is phoning anything in. Maybe we should browse the papers online in some of the places surrounding Reno, or even in surrounding states....maybe there are some rapes or abductions that have occurred there that could be linked to this guy. If he already went somewhere else, he may have felt more comfortable about starting up his behavior right away. And he has the advantage of everyone intensely following Bri's particular case - makes it a bit easier to overlook other similar crimes that he may commit if they are outside the immediate area. JMO.

[SeriouslySearching]

I believe that everytime a cop says he uses his "gut instinct" he is using the same intuitiveness we all possess, but few rely on. Not much different than a mother's intuition (which we all agree is pretty darn good, yes?). I agree that people here do not realize how much of what we do is intuitive. Call it a hunch, gut instinct, or whatever you will...I think it is something that goes hand in hand in trying to solve difficult cases.

You bring up some valid points. We don't know how far he would have taken the first attack since she fought back effectively, but he did not have actual intercourse with the second victim. While this could have been a time issue for him or he had other fantasies in his head, we can't know. The theory of him building up his courage could be correct. In order for him to hold her indefinitely...he would have to have help. Something to consider certainly would be another female he had control over, but I don't feel he is this type for some reason. (I feel he doesn't neccessarily control his spouse/gf.)


Thank you Utopia for the welcome. I do not live in Reno. I am an intuitive and have certain ideas on what may have happened. I know many of you don't believe in intuitives however after reading websleuths for many years....I find all of you very intuitive and perhaps aren't aware of how much you all know and are close to being right.

[SeriouslySearching]

Police said they're now looking for a pickup that requires someone to take a big step to get inside instead of a pickup that has an exterior step. The pickup was described by the victim in the Dec. 16 incident.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NEWS01/801310338/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

So...does this cancel out the SUV theory, too? They are only saying pickup now. Good to know that it doesn't have a step outside, but doesn't narrow it down much.

[dbl_r_2]

What if this guy is someone that is in the area only once month, So far the attacks have all been around the middle of the month and then don't occur again until the next month. Maybe if he was leaving the area after the attack then he doesn't worry about being seen afterwards. The vehicle that he used could have been borrowed from a friend.

[dee10134]

Hunting for evidence is what we do here. That guy just seemed to fit so many of the things we know about the perp. The odds are HIGHLY against him being the guy, but as long as his name isn't put out there, he's not being wronged.

Maybe I'm mistaken Rick, but hunting for evidence is what LE does...

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks for clearing that up, Dee~ The SWAT having different ages in different groups makes more sense as to her parents letting her attend.

You are right about the attendees, too. LOL I don't know what I was thinking that he would have to be a snowboarder. Still, I don't see him following her home because the odds are insane he would find a girl so close to his last victim.

I am glad Mark F. agrees with me on this one! It was an opportunist. He didn't know she existed until he saw her before he abducted her.

[dee10134]

I believe that everytime a cop says he uses his "gut instinct" he is using the same intuitiveness we all possess, but few rely on. Not much different than a mother's intuition (which we all agree is pretty darn good, yes?). I agree that people here do not realize how much of what we do is intuitive. Call it a hunch, gut instinct, or whatever you will...I think it is something that goes hand in hand in trying to solve difficult cases.

You bring up some valid points. We don't know how far he would have taken the first attack since she fought back effectively, but he did not have actual intercourse with the second victim. While this could have been a time issue for him or he had other fantasies in his head, we can't know. The theory of him building up his courage could be correct. In order for him to hold her indefinitely...he would have to have help. Something to consider certainly would be another female he had control over, but I don't feel he is this type for some reason. (I feel he doesn't neccessarily control his spouse/gf.)

I agree. If he controlled his spouse/gf (IF he even has one) then what would be his need for rape? He has all the control/power he needs at home, right?

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe I'm mistaken Rick, but hunting for evidence is what LE does...Rick meant clues, I am sure. :) Didn't ya, Rick?! And we do hunt for clues here! We try to read between the lines, come up with logical theories, and find anything to help piece together a case.

[Rick777]

Maybe I'm mistaken Rick, but hunting for evidence is what LE does...


...and the LE's hunting is often fueled by tip from people like us. :)

[Rick777]

Rick meant clues, I am sure. :) Didn't ya, Rick?! And we do hunt for clues here! We try to read between the lines, come up with logical theories, and find anything to help piece together a case.


yeah...*S*

[murdershewrote]

I think that is a good point about somebody who visits the area around the same time each month...maybe goes to the casinos, either for work or recreation. I keep thinking about that older man who kept the young hiker in his truck for three days before finally killing her. It would be very hard to hide somebody for this amount of time unless he has a remote mountain cabin or someplace like that, which is possible in the Reno area.

It's so hard to say, I mean, we've seen cases where a guy will just grab a victim and kill them, just the one time...like the case where the girl was abducted from outside the Target store. It was the neighbors who ID'sd his truck in that case, so I think that's where the best tip might come from...somebody knows that truck. I wish they would show the model on TV or something similar..it's hard for most people to envision unless they actually see what one looks like.

[Rick777]

LE keeps putting out there that they think the perp may live in the neighborhood. Someone must know of someone that hasn't come out lately, left over a week ago, or changed thier daily habits in some way.

[SuziQ]

I'd bet neighbors, co-workers, family etc have thought of a certain person. As in that kinda sounds like "Joe". And he drives a truck, etc, etc. Then they think about the "Joe" they know and decide.....no way! People who know this guy are going to have to be convinced it is him. And after he's arrested, they may still have a hard time believing it. I feel this guys identity is going to be a shock to many.

LE has subtly stressed the above, but they need to do it in capital letters and exclamation point!

[Rick777]

I'd bet neighbors, co-workers, family etc have thought of a certain person. As in that kinda sounds like "Joe". And he drives a truck, etc, etc. Then they think about the "Joe" they know and decide.....no way! People who know this guy are going to have to be convinced it is him. And after he's arrested, they may still have a hard time believing it. I feel this guys identity is going to be a shock to many.

LE has subtly stressed the above, but they need to do it in capital letters and exclamation point!


Oh yeah...I can already hear it..."I never would have thought it was HIM!"..

[SuziQ]

Oh yeah...I can already hear it..."I never would have thought it was HIM!"..

I really try to put myself in someone's shoes when I hear that sad and typical response. Honestly though, I just want to smack them! Especially when they show up on a sleuthing board somewhere cussing everyone else out for daring to think different. I know, I know, it's hard to admit to being so wrong about someone's character. I've been there myself.

[Rick777]

I really try to put myself in someone's shoes when I hear that sad and typical response. Honestly though, I just want to smack them! Especially when they show up on a sleuthing board somewhere cussing everyone else out for daring to think different. I know, I know, it's hard to admit to being so wrong about someone's character. I've been there myself.


I guess deep down we want to believe the best in people, and thats not reality.

[dontpanic38]

...and the LE's hunting is often fueled by tip from people like us. :)


I agree in a small way with both sides here. Tips are going to break this case, however We are not LE, and the tip that is going to break this case will be from someone local who knows the perp in some way.

I don't agree or like the mentality that says if the guy has nothing to hide, who cares... You have to figure that if this myspace guy is a stand up person and has nothing to do with this case and the police show up and scrutinize him and his life, there is going to be consequences. His wife, his neighbors etc....
I am not saying that sending a tip was the wrong thing to do, I just don't like the thought that so many people just accept the "If you aren't doing something wrong, you have nothing to hide"...

However I also think that putting your personal details on the internet for the world to see opens you up to that sort of thing...


My armchair thoughts on the perp is that it is a local who might not live in the immediate area, but is comfortable enough to blend without drawing a lot of suspicion. I have a feeling that he is not a student. Possibly dropped out because of life changes (money, family responsibilities) I think that is the trigger as well. I think that he feels trapped by his situation and is acting out his frustration on victims of opportunity. I don't really feel that there is a set "type" he is looking for other than vulnerable.
I do think that it will be a shock to those who know him, but probably everyone who really does know him will see in hindsight that he is frustrated or angry and I think that he is someone who knows people in the area, probably attends a lot of the same functions, but is not a student.

One other thing that I guess I missed but feel strongly about, someone said that the police at first discounted the idea that the attacks were related, I don't think that is the case at all. I think that the police are extremely careful about what they say to the media and they will almost always say that they don't have anything solid that links this case to that case. Also just because they wont say that cases are related does not mean for a second that they are sitting on it and not investigating it as such. It just means that they are not going to jeopardize their case by stating something that can't be completely backed up.

Anyhoo. I am not an expert and not in LE so my thoughts are just thoughts. I may be 100% wrong about all of it but I just wanted to chime in....

[Leviosa]

guestwriter:

From day one I have attended to the notion of an 'untimely accomplice' after the fact. I really 'feel' the pet theory. FWIW—trophy girl, alive, with an ex-girlfriend or partner in crime of the past; like a bartender friend, or any of these serious beer drinking types. Unless he killed her by accident. Seriously gang, predicated upon stopping blood flow to the brain is a very dangerous way of rendering someone unconscious.

Leviosa

[Leviosa]

From S.S., post, page 14:
<snip> This wouldn't point to his intelligence as it would draw attention to someone trying to break in. I wonder what stopped him since it was only an attempted burglary?<snip>

Here we have a person who assaulted a person, police report filed, threats made, "…I'll be back…if you tell anyone I'll kill you…" And LE doesn't run this down? Reno LE, seems a bit reckless if not borderline incompetent.

WS's we are talking about concurrent incidents Dec. 16 back again Jan. 19 then the unthinkable…Jan.20; this perp has intimate knowledge of the area. Moreover, it seems as though he may have contact with someone who either lives there or runs in-and-out-of there.

Leviosa

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree. If he controlled his spouse/gf (IF he even has one) then what would be his need for rape? He has all the control/power he needs at home, right?While many rapists are abusers and control freaks in every relationship, I don't think it applies in this case. Maybe it is the baby shoe. Maybe it is because he returned the second vic. He doesn't seem like the abusive/control freak I would think of in considering him having an accomplice in keeping her alive. He didn't beat up the victims that we know of. The rage and violence don't seem to be there.

[Leviosa]

WS's we are talking about concurrent incidents Dec. 16 back again Jan. 19 then the unthinkable…Jan.20; this perp has intimate knowledge of the area. Moreover, it seems as though he may have contact with someone who either lives there or runs in-and-out-of there.

Lastly….dimples; you are to be commended! It took serious guts on your part; however, and I hope that this eases things for you: If you would have posted that MySpace link, I would NOT have hesitated to call this one in. Otherwise it would have been seriously negligent not to have reported it.

For my own piece of mind: MySpace is a public and open 'fun' website for everyone. Anything and everything that gets posted on a person's site has no claim to privacy insofar as they willingly posted it.

Just one last issue: Yeah, yeah, Mark F. is good looking; yet all things being equal, he's sleeazzzzzy!

Lev

[murdershewrote]

16th, 19th, 20th...maybe we will have to wait and see what happens around mid-February.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think we can discount the attack which happened Nov. 13th even if LE hasn't connected it yet. (Why are we not getting a very detailed description from her?)

This was on a Tuesday. With Veteran's Day-11th, Veteran's Day Observation-12th...could he have been triggered by that?

[Rick777]

I don't think we can discount the attack which happened Nov. 13th even if LE hasn't connected it yet. (They have mentioned it.) This was on a Tuesday. With Veteran's Day-11th, Veteran's Day Observation-12th...could he have been triggered by that?


Hmmmmmmmmm......thats an interesting thought. A young returning Middle east vet?

[SeriouslySearching]

Or could he have someone close to him killed in the military and it dredged up the loss?

[Tallytowngirl]

While many rapists are abusers and control freaks in every relationship, I don't think it applies in this case. Maybe it is the baby shoe. Maybe it is because he returned the second vic. He doesn't seem like the abusive/control freak I would think of in considering him having an accomplice in keeping her alive. He didn't beat up the victims that we know of. The rage and violence don't seem to be there.

I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this.

a rapist doesn't seem like he's abusive? He didn't beat the victims up, so he's not violent?

[StillHoping]

When I try to get a clear picture in my head of this perp, I keep seeing the serial killer from the movie "Copycat" with Sigourney Weaver. I don't think it's looks so much as the fact that the killer in the movie was someone who people would never suspect. I think this is the visual I keep getting because the killer in the movie had a wife at home, she was very lazy and overbearing, he had to do everything for her and treat her like a princess, the movie leads you to believe that his frustrations with his wife are his trigger.

I think our perp could also be in a situation like that. Maybe he feels that he is the one keeping everything together, the relationship, the home, the kid(s), etc. And he rationalizes "treating" himself to a "reward".

I have also speculated that the perp is possibly involved in LE. The only reason I did this is because it seems as though the perp KNEW that the Dec. victim went to the police, and he tried to make good on his promise to her. I really can't see how he KNEW that, unless he had sources in LE.
But this thought led me to another thought. What if his wife or g/f is local LE, working nightshift patrol, etc. She could easily have been called to the scene when the victims reported the assaults. She could easily unwittingly give info to the perp. He would definitely feel more secure knowing he has "the inside scoop" and he would be free to take to the streets while wifey was working late at night. Just some thoughts, no facts involved.

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this.

a rapist doesn't seem like he's abusive? He didn't beat the victims up, so he's not violent?I guess I should have used the terminology of Sadistic and Masochistic. Sorry. Didn't mean to confuse you. I don't think this guy is into beating up women to add to his kicks. Of course, rape is abuse and is a violent act.

His wife/gf probably will be shocked it is him because he has never been abusive towards her or the children in any manner. This is what I was getting at.

[SeriouslySearching]

Stillhoping, the Dec. incident was made public through their Secret Witness program and other media reports. He would not have to be in LE to know this.

[StillHoping]

Stillhoping, the Dec. incident was made public through their Secret Witness program and other media reports. He would not have to be in LE to know this.

OK, I thought alot of it didn't come out publicly until after Brianna was abducted. Thanks for the info. :)

[murdershewrote]

IMO, finding a rapist by profiling is almost impossible. They come in every size, shape, race, income, status, occupation, marital status, etc.

In this case, we do know alot about him but yet nothing all that specific, for example, if the victim had seen a tat or a scar..something to single him out. I think the truck and the baby shoe are the most helpful facts we know right now.

IMO, I don't think he intended to kill Brianna...I think he went in with the intention to rape, but possibly with her being intoxicated, her respiratory system would have been slowed down quite alot, and if he tried to cover her mouth or knock her out as he did the other girl, she may have died right there...something he hadn't planned on at all.

[SeriouslySearching]

In the AMW link, it says that there was DNA found on Brianna's pillow. Could she have bit the guy, leaving his blood on the pillow? I think that he killed her. She may have bit him and fought him, making him angry enough to kill her.I dunno how accurate they are...I just noticed they have the victim's address in the 1400 block of Terrace Drive instead of what was reported on the police blogs etc. of it being the 1400 block of Virginia Street.

I don't think they are talking about blood from him either. Tori2's post reported that the police chief on an interview mentioned the oils from fingers being a way to leave such DNA.

However, they do give a rough timeframe as being 3-4 minutes away from where he abducted her. This is important.

[nanandjim]

Perhaps MySpace guy has absolutely NOTHING to do with this and you have LE going to his house, disrupting his family and his life, for your little witch hunts! Perhaps the real perp is smart enough NOT to have a MySpace page. Perhaps he has a Facebook page. Perhaps he doesn't advertise his life on the Internet at all.

I sure as hell would hate to look like anyone that's wanted for a crime... especially around you guys! :rolleyes:
Lots of perps have Myspace accounts. We have seen it time and time again. This guy is young. So, he might have one. Then, again, he may not. I know that I would be upset if someone had anonymously given my name as a potential suspect.

However, I feel certain that the police will handle it correctly. They will placate the guy and remind him that there is a wide sweep to eliminate everyone. If he is innocent, he has nothing to fear and should feel grateful that the police are not brushing this under the rug. After all, his family could be at risk. He has a young wife and three small children.

[Rick777]

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Originally Posted by nanandjim http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1953974#post1953974)
In the AMW link, it says that there was DNA found on Brianna's pillow. Could she have bit the guy, leaving his blood on the pillow? I think that he killed her. She may have bit him and fought him, making him angry enough to kill her."


I have such a hard time with that...even thought it is quite possible. Her wall was LITERALLY shared with K.T's wall and dog. Something should have been heard. I'm sure he used the stuffed animal to cover her face, but those are not airtight enough to make her pass out.

[StillHoping]

I didn't see this posted anywhere, but forgive me if it has already been posted. This information came from www.briannadenison.com (http://www.briannadenison.com). The last I heard, they were unsure if Bri had on Blue or Pink sweatpants, and I had not heard this much better description of her top. Hopefully locals will keep their eyes out for discarded clothing that matches etc.

Her clothing at the time of her disappearance was described as a white tank top with pink angel wings with rhinestones on the back and word “Bindi” on the back. She was wearing pink sweats that had two distinctive brown stains on one leg.

[Rick777]

Typing in caps is shouting...hehehehehe

[SeriouslySearching]

For Gosh sakes, it isn't like LE is going to go to this guy's house, haul him out in handcuffs, and take him into custody!! Come on, people!! Let's be realistic here!!

LE will look at the site, take into consideration if there is any possible connection to the victims, then they will run checks on the person...quietly without disturbing him or his family in any way. They might drive by his house. They might inquire about his job in a covert way. They might even talk to a neighbor. They won't be approaching him unless they find there is a reason to do so.

Do you honestly believe that every call they get from people that they will go pick em up and haul them in for DNA testing?! No freaking way!!! Get real!!

[murdershewrote]

do you also think that LE will do anything at all about a tip called in about some guy on MySpace who kind of fits the description (as do about a thousand other guys)...really???

[KR2tonenow]

What if this guy is someone that is in the area only once month, So far the attacks have all been around the middle of the month and then don't occur again until the next month. Maybe if he was leaving the area after the attack then he doesn't worry about being seen afterwards. The vehicle that he used could have been borrowed from a friend.

Someone who travels there on business....have rental companies been checked out during the time of Brianna's disappearance?

[SuziQ]

When Dimples did the search it was pretty specific and I don't think she got a thousand posibilities back. Smart LE don't go and haul people in anymore. If anything they'll get his DNA off of something and test it without him even knowing it's been done.

[StillHoping]

Typing in caps is shouting...hehehehehe

LOL. Well....it's actually really large bold letters, not caps. And I actually just copied and pasted from Brianna's website. But I knew someone would say something and you took the bait. :crazy:

[KR2tonenow]

[quote=murdershewrote;1954092]do you also think that LE will do anything at all about a tip called in about some guy on MySpace who kind of fits the description (as do about a thousand other guys)...really??

yes I do...they need all the help they can get. Hopefully calling the Polly Klauss foundation can gain them the legwork they need. Remember, Polly was taken from her bedroom while her mother was sleeping in the next room and she was found raped and murdered later on. They were able to get that particular perp, so all leads are worth their weight in gold. IMO

[SeriouslySearching]

When Dimples did the search it was pretty specific and I don't think she got a thousand posibilities back. Smart LE don't go and haul people in anymore. If anything they'll get his DNA off of something and test it without him even knowing it's been done.They could do that, too!! All this talk about how awful we are for calling in this tip is ridiculous, imo! :mad:

[aj1020]

They could do that, too!! All this talk about how awful we are for calling in this tip is ridiculous, imo! :mad:

I agree, I feel like we're in kindergarten and someone told the teacher on the person in charge of the glue and scissors... at the end of the day, who really cares?!? Let's move on already. If it leads to the arrest of this suspect then halleluyer, and if it doesn't then no harm no foul. Let's all put our clubs away and leave the poor dead horse alo