Thread No. 23 - General Discussion

[Jeana (DP)]

Here ya go darlins!!!

[concernedperson]

Thanks Jeana, here is an important link to what is going on in this case.

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1578641/

[Anita Richman]

:( I just don't get it. His family (his mother, specifically) seems to know "he did it." Yet they protect him. Why?!

[Taximom]

Thank you, Jeana. I sure hope the next thread we start says "KILLER ARRESTED".

:(

[nanandjim]

Here ya go darlins!!!
Thank you, Jeana. You are a sweetheart. :blowkiss:

[nanandjim]

:( I just don't get it. His family (his mother, specifically) seems to know "he did it." Yet they protect him. Why?!
It's amazing what people will rationalize out.

[gaia227]

Hi Everyone. I had heard of this murder but had not examined it very closely until recently. There is a TON of information on WS regarding this case - 22 Threads, wow. I did a lot of skimming and just wanted to make a couple observations:
Regarding Cassidy saying 'daddy beading', 'daddy do it'; sometimes kids at that age tend to look at all members of the male gender as Daddy's and vice versa, women are Mommy's. Granted I do not have children so I don't know when a child becomes mature enough to recognize that the male gender is not known as Daddy. But this made me think it is possible that because Cassidy saw a man in the house she would call him daddy. I am playing devils advocate a little bit because I believe that Daddy did do it.
Also, some of the things that have been said about Meredith. Personally I thought she sounded panicked on the tape. I felt like I identified with her because the way she acted reminded me of how I think I would act - especially if my little neice was there. Some people are just more reserved and handle crisis situations differently - they do not scream and completely lose it. She was obviously trying to remain calm and I think she was in shock. What motive with Meredith have to kill her sister?
I have always thought Jason did it. I don't need to point to the reasons way - you guys already know. I think the LE has not handled this case very well. Come on, the go back to the crime scene months later because they never collected and analysed blood spots??? They never tested MY's body to see if she was sexually assaulted? I just thought those things were routine.
A Couple questions, if you don't mind:
I thought they found blood in his SUV - what came of that?
Also, have they establised his alibi?
Would it be possible for him to have killed her before he left on the business trip?
Thanks for reading.

[Just the Fax]

A Couple questions, if you don't mind:
I thought they found blood in his SUV - what came of that?
Apparently the cops found'what appeared to be blood" on the rear passenger door and rear seat behind the driver. There has been no report either way on the outcome of the tests.
Also, have they established his alibi?
Reportedly, he arrived in Hillsville Va Hampton Inn at 10:30 pm
(2 1/2 hours away) He made several calls, finally calling Michelle at 11 pm. He showed up in Clintwood Va at 10:30 am (2 1/2 hours from Hillsville). He obviously had a large window of opportunity to drive back to Raleigh and kill Michelle around 2 am and then make it back to Virginia in time for his 'meeting'.
Would it be possible for him to have killed her before he left on the business trip?
Impossible. Michelle had a friend at the house until 10:30 pm.

[nanandjim]

A Couple questions, if you don't mind:
I thought they found blood in his SUV - what came of that?
Apparently the cops found'what appeared to be blood" on the rear passenger door and rear seat behind the driver. There has been no report either way on the outcome of the tests.
Also, have they established his alibi?
Reportedly, he arrived in Hillsville Va Hampton Inn at 10:30 pm
(2 1/2 hours away) He made several calls, finally calling Michelle at 11 pm. He showed up in Clintwood Va at 10:30 am (2 1/2 hours from Hillsville). He obviously had a large window of opportunity to drive back to Raleigh and kill Michelle around 2 am and then make it back to Virginia in time for his 'meeting'.
Would it be possible for him to have killed her before he left on the business trip?
Impossible. Michelle had a friend at the house until 10:30 pm.


I know of no company that would pay for a hotel room for an employee who drove 2.5 hours away. That's absolutely ridiculous. My husband is a Vice President of a major corporation. Since 9/11 the company's general policy is that the employees drive to their destination if the driving time is six hours or less. I can assure you that a sales rep would be reprimanded for a hotel stay so close to home.

It should be quite transparent, even to the most casual observer, that Jason was setting up his alibi.

[Just the Fax]

1- Birchleaf Dr, Raleigh NC to Hampton Inn, Va 171 miles (2 hour , 25 min)

2- Hampton Inn to dickenson Med / Clinwood 146 miles (2 hr, 10)

3- Clintwood Va to Duffield Va 52 miles (1 hour)

4- Duffield Va to Brevard NC 143 miles ( 2 hours, 15 min)
=============================================

1- Leaves home at 8 pm and arrives in Hillsville Va at 10:30 pm

2- After a LONG night (a lot of driving and tons of stress), he leaves Hillsville @ 8:15 am, arriving
in Clintwwod Va at 10:30 am

3- After 1 hour meeting, he leaves Clintwood at 11:30 am,
stopping in Duffield Va at 12:30 pm for gas

4- Drives to Brevard, arriving at 3 pm,
only to fall plumb to his knees

[jilly]

Hi JusttheFax! I'd appreciate your thoughts on this:

What do you suppose is the hold up for an arrest? Needing someone to place him at the scene during the early hours of that morning? A life insurance deposition or do you think he's simply walked away from the life insurance? Seems like he's met a woman now with money anyways.

How is Linda Fisher doing, do you know?

[scandi]

http://www.ncwanted.com/asset/unsolved/2007/11/13/2039546/1195002902-Michelle-Young-Web-Feature-510x191.jpg

Hi Everyone, Just thinking about Michelle ;}

[Taximom]

Geez, just seeing "2006" makes me sick.

Hi everyone!

Gaia, from what I understood Cassidy was daddy's little girl. In my heart, I'm sure she meant her daddy. Just IMO. :blowkiss:

[Kadie]

Seems like he's met a woman now with money anyways.

How is Linda Fisher doing, do you know?

Hi Jilly-What have you heard about Jason? So, he's dating? I live in Michigan and hadn't heard anything about him. I was just curious as to what the latest scoop is on him.
Thanks!

[nanandjim]

1- Birchleaf Dr, Raleigh NC to Hampton Inn, Va 171 miles (2 hour , 25 min)

2- Hampton Inn to dickenson Med / Clinwood 146 miles (2 hr, 10)

3- Clintwood Va to Duffield Va 52 miles (1 hour)

4- Duffield Va to Brevard NC 143 miles ( 2 hours, 15 min)
=============================================

1- Leaves home at 8 pm and arrives in Hillsville Va at 10:30 pm

2- After a LONG night (a lot of driving and tons of stress), he leaves Hillsville @ 8:15 am, arriving
in Clintwwod Va at 10:30 am

3- After 1 hour meeting, he leaves Clintwood at 11:30 am,
stopping in Duffield Va at 12:30 pm for gas

4- Drives to Brevard, arriving at 3 pm,
only to fall plumb to his knees
Do you think that anyone, much less the police, believe that Jason drove two hours to stay at a hotel, leaving him over two hours (still) to drive to his meeting. I just have to shake my head... :rolleyes:

[jilly]

Hi Jilly-What have you heard about Jason? So, he's dating? I live in Michigan and hadn't heard anything about him. I was just curious as to what the latest scoop is on him.
Thanks!

Hi Kadie! Yes...I've heard that he's dating a woman who lives in Atlanta. Apparently she has money. My memory's starting to fade but I think this woman and jy went on a cruise together. I can't remember if Cassidy was with them but I think jy's mother may have been with them.

[sweetmop]

Hi Kadie! Yes...I've heard that he's dating a woman who lives in Atlanta. Apparently she has money. My memory's starting to fade but I think this woman and jy went on a cruise together. I can't remember if Cassidy was with them but I think jy's mother may have been with them.


Hi jilly! :blowkiss:

Jason was dating the wealthy woman from Georgia.
Now it's being said that she broke it off! And he has been corresponding with an " old friend " he knew from college, that lives in Charlotte.

Ole " Booty Boy " doesn't waste any time, does he?

It's absolutely amazing to me, that he can find women that are even willing to have anything to do with him!!!:confused:

[raisincharlie]

<snip>

Regarding Cassidy saying 'daddy beading', 'daddy do it'; sometimes kids at that age tend to look at all members of the male gender as Daddy's and vice versa, women are Mommy's. Granted I do not have children so I don't know when a child becomes mature enough to recognize that the male gender is not known as Daddy. But this made me think it is possible that because Cassidy saw a man in the house she would call him daddy. I am playing devils advocate a little bit because I believe that Daddy did do it.


Gaia227,

Hi first off - glad you posted.

Just a note - don't know if you have been watching the Bobby Cutts trial on WJW Fox 8 (Jessie Davis) but Blake, Jessie's 2.5 year old told his Grand Mother that "Daddy was angry - Mommy broke the table, Mommie's in the rug"

Sure enough - daddy did it and Jessie was found wrapped in the comforter from her bed. Blake said quite a bit about what happened. Check the WJW site for the Grand Mother's testimony - she tells what all Blake told her. Bobby Cutts is currently on trial for Jessie's murder and the murder of her unborn daughter Chloe.

[Samiya]

Just popping in to say hi to everyone I adore and...

Jason, I hate you.

Sami

[j2mirish]

Gaia227,

Hi first off - glad you posted.

Just a note - don't know if you have been watching the Bobby Cutts trial on WJW Fox 8 (Jessie Davis) but Blake, Jessie's 2.5 year old told his Grand Mother that "Daddy was angry - Mommy broke the table, Mommie's in the rug"

Sure enough - daddy did it and Jessie was found wrapped in the comforter from her bed. Blake said quite a bit about what happened. Check the WJW site for the Grand Mother's testimony - she tells what all Blake told her. Bobby Cutts is currently on trial for Jessie's murder and the murder of her unborn daughter Chloe.
I agree- no confusion on "daddy or dad or dadda or pop or pappa" - it is what it is--- DADDY :mad:

[concernedperson]

I agree- no confusion on "daddy or dad or dadda or pop or pappa" - it is what it is--- DADDY :mad:

I so agree.

[jilly]

Hi jilly! :blowkiss:

Jason was dating the wealthy woman from Georgia.
Now it's being said that she broke it off! And he has been corresponding with an " old friend " he knew from college, that lives in Charlotte.

Ole " Booty Boy " doesn't waste any time, does he?

It's absolutely amazing to me, that he can find women that are even willing to have anything to do with him!!!:confused:

Hi Sweet!:blowkiss: Ohhhh myyyy! Thanks for the update! It amazes me too! I could never go out with a guy whose wife was murdered and it's unsolved. I'd have to sleep with both eyes open! Plus, from all we've learned about him - he's just a real creepy creep - makes my skin crawl.

Glad to hear the rich woman dumped him. I wonder if LE contacts these women? Hopefully some college people will fill this "old friend" in.

[nanandjim]

...I could never go out with a guy whose wife was murdered and it's unsolved...
...whose wife and unborn son were murdered and he refused to cooperate with the investigation and he was considered the main suspect... :(

I hope that Michelle haunts him; and all of the women are clued in as to what the facts are in this case. If he murdered one and his child, he could do it again...

[tinytown]

Long time lurker, waiting for Justice for Michelle.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2450106/

LE has searched Jason's parents' house.

[tinytown]

I said parents' house, but the article says "family members."

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Thank you for that new article.

Interesting...especially when we were told a few months ago by another poster to just wait, in regards to a new suspect that LE, the Youngs and the Fishers were aware of...

And yet, all those agencies have taken the time and resources to travel to two homes where JY has been staying? Hmmm, looks to me like JY is still number one on their radar :crazy:

Bet that was a mighty surprise for his mother and sister when LE showed up.

Pressure is still on Jason Young. Darn it all, huh? He tries to "move on," but pesky LE is still trying to solve the brutal murder of his wife.

[concernedperson]

Long time lurker, waiting for Justice for Michelle.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2450106/

LE has searched Jason's parents' house.

Thanks for the article. I wonder what LE is looking for? Must be important.

[icefun]

Jason, be afraid....be very afraid. They're coming.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Jason, be afraid....be very afraid. They're coming.

Wonder where he was when these were served? :eek:

Oh, this was Valentine's Day. Well, that should be one that he and his family will remember for awhile.

[sweetmop]

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1578641/



WCSD and the SBI searched the homes of Jason's mother Pat, and the home of his sister Heather, on Thursday, Feb. 14, 2008.

[sweetmop]

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/image/2450482/

[philamena]

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1578641/



WCSD and the SBI searched the homes of Jason's mother Pat, and the home of his sister Heather, on Thursday, Feb. 14, 2008.


Hey Sweetmop:blowkiss:
Finally something new about this case.
Thanks so much for the update.
If LE searched Jason's relatives homes last week, I think an arrest should be following close behing. I can hope anyway.

[raisincharlie]

One more link:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/950630.html

"Wake County sheriff's deputies recently searched residences in Transylvania and Henderson counties in which Jason Young, husband of slain Raleigh resident Michelle Young, has been living."



Seems to me old JY boy is still person of interest #1. Maybe they found all that rumored mssing jewelry...

[sweetmop]

Hey Sweetmop:blowkiss:
Finally something new about this case.
Thanks so much for the update.
If LE searched Jason's relatives homes last week, I think an arrest should be following close behing. I can hope anyway.


Hey philamena! So good seeing you! :blowkiss:

Me too... hoping!

I do believe that this may be a prelude to the coming event! An arrest!

[Taximom]

Long time lurker, waiting for Justice for Michelle.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2450106/

LE has searched Jason's parents' house.

Thanks for that very interesting news, tinytown. Welcome to WS!

[Taximom]

Will the search warrants be available to the public, and if so, when?

Rest well now, Jason.

[raisincharlie]

Will the search warrants be available to the public, and if so, when?

Rest well now, Jason.

According to the NC Most Wanted site link - the warrants were to be sealed - if so we won't be seeing anything soon on them. Seems like LE was most likely looking for something very specific - sealing them would hide both the probable cause and whether or not the item(s) sought were found. Very interesting...:crazy:

[j2mirish]

According to the NC Most Wanted site link - the warrants were to be sealed - if so we won't be seeing anything soon on them. Seems like LE was most likely looking for something very specific - sealing them would hide both the probable cause and whether or not the item(s) sought were found. Very interesting...:crazy:
yes it is-

[Taximom]

According to the NC Most Wanted site link - the warrants were to be sealed - if so we won't be seeing anything soon on them. Seems like LE was most likely looking for something very specific - sealing them would hide both the probable cause and whether or not the item(s) sought were found. Very interesting...:crazy:
Hi rc! :blowkiss: How are things in the barn?

I didn't know if "sealed" meant a specific period of time (like 30 days) or if it meant until they are darn good and ready! Thanks!

[concernedperson]

According to the NC Most Wanted site link - the warrants were to be sealed - if so we won't be seeing anything soon on them. Seems like LE was most likely looking for something very specific - sealing them would hide both the probable cause and whether or not the item(s) sought were found. Very interesting...:crazy:

I figured it was something specific. I believe they are really working this case too.

[raisincharlie]

Hi rc! :blowkiss: How are things in the barn?

I didn't know if "sealed" meant a specific period of time (like 30 days) or if it meant until they are darn good and ready! Thanks!

The barn is good - happy, fat, ponies all !

Sealed - hmmm, things can be sealed right up to trial - some things can be left sealed even during trial. Don't think there is a specific time period requirement. Sure have to wonder though, seems to me there was something definitely in their minds - something important enough to kjeep it hidden from the public. No jury pool taint that way. Wonder how the Brevard crew will spin this one into Meredith as the suspect...:crazy: I know, give them time, they'll come up with something.

[tinytown]

Updated WRAL link http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2450106/
Not saying what they were looking for, just that they have "new eyes" looking at the case. My eyes are waiting for the time when I can read that LE has an airtight case for conviction. Praying for justice for Michelle and her son.

[jilly]

Hey Gang!!:dance: Nice to see you all! It's like a family reunion!:woohoo: Welcome TinyTown :) and thanks to you and RC & Sweet for the links!:blowkiss: And Happy belated Valentine's Day to the Young clan!:p :crazy:

Can someone please tell me what the State Bureau of Investigation is? A branch of the FBI?

I have no clue what they were looking for but I'm happy the warrants are sealed. These people don't deserve any inside info. Hopefully, LE will go back and back and back - I think the Youngs' might have become a little too complacent so let's just squish that little notion!:cool:

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Hey Gang!!:dance: Nice to see you all! It's like a family reunion!:woohoo: Welcome TinyTown :) and thanks to you and RC & Sweet for the links!:blowkiss: And Happy belated Valentine's Day to the Young clan!:p :crazy:

Can someone please tell me what the State Bureau of Investigation is? A branch of the FBI?

I have no clue what they were looking for but I'm happy the warrants are sealed. These people don't deserve any inside info. Hopefully, LE will go back and back and back - I think the Youngs' might have become a little too complacent so let's just squish that little notion!:cool:

Hi Jilly,
Nice to see you!

Unfortunately, the Young clan should have a very detailed account of what is in those search warrants, and know what was seized. So, they have some idea of where LE is focused. Well, let me rephrase that - they should :rolleyes:

I would think that they may wish to finally have that sit-down talk with Jason that they just haven't claimed to have had yet. This cannot be good news for the Young family.

JMO

[concernedperson]

Hi Jilly,
Nice to see you!

Unfortunately, the Young clan should have a very detailed account of what is in those search warrants, and know what was seized. So, they have some idea of where LE is focused. Well, let me rephrase that - they should :rolleyes:

I would think that they may wish to finally have that sit-down talk with Jason that they just haven't claimed to have had yet. This cannot be good news for the Young family.

JMO
I bet they won't be telling any of us what was in that sealed warrant. I wonder if they called for extra help?

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I bet they won't be telling any of us what was in that sealed warrant. I wonder if they called for extra help?

If they did, evidently extra help hasn't been very successful.

[raisincharlie]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:




If they did, evidently extra help hasn't been very successful.


I'm sure a certain doctor didn't see that one coming, nor a certain squirrel hunter :crazy:

[concernedperson]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:







I'm sure a certain doctor didn't see that one coming, nor a certain squirrel hunter :crazy:

I would bet not.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



I'm sure a certain doctor didn't see that one coming, nor a certain squirrel hunter :crazy:


<THUD>

[raisincharlie]

I would bet not.


Thread 22, page 25, post 609 the good dr. tells us about other suspects, from this should we surmise the other suspect(s) live either in the little sis's house or in the mum's house ? He even added "just wait".

[raisincharlie]

HELLO JILLY ! :)

[sweetmop]

Hey Gang!!:dance: Nice to see you all! It's like a family reunion!:woohoo: Welcome TinyTown :) and thanks to you and RC & Sweet for the links!:blowkiss: And Happy belated Valentine's Day to the Young clan!:p :crazy:

Can someone please tell me what the State Bureau of Investigation is? A branch of the FBI?

I have no clue what they were looking for but I'm happy the warrants are sealed. These people don't deserve any inside info. Hopefully, LE will go back and back and back - I think the Youngs' might have become a little too complacent so let's just squish that little notion!:cool:

Hail! Hail! The Gang's all here!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

You're right, It is good to see EVERYONE again!
I am so hoping and praying that any day now, we will have the much prayed for arrest.

jilly, I include a link regarding the SBI. Yes, it is similar to the FBI, I guess. It's a state agency though.



http://www.ncsbi.gov/

[jilly]

Hi Jilly,
Nice to see you!

Unfortunately, the Young clan should have a very detailed account of what is in those search warrants, and know what was seized.Oh, Nooooooo! Well.... there goes my balloon!:D So, they have some idea of where LE is focused. Well, let me rephrase that - they should :rolleyes:

I would think that they may wish to finally have that sit-down talk with Jason that they just haven't claimed to have had yet. This cannot be good news for the Young family.

JMO

Nice to see you too Dep!!

[jilly]

HELLO JILLY ! :)

HEY!!! RC. Hope you and your family are well!!

[jilly]

Hail! Hail! The Gang's all here!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

You're right, It is good to see EVERYONE again!
I am so hoping and praying that any day now, we will have the much prayed for arrest.

jilly, I include a link regarding the SBI. Yes, it is similar to the FBI, I guess. It's a state agency though.



http://www.ncsbi.gov/

Ohhh, this link is great sweet! Thank you!! Sounds to me like the investigation has intensified!:woohoo:

I'm praying like you every nite! This guy needs to be in jail.

[sweetmop]

Well ole "Booty Boy" continues to make the news!

And I know it shouldn't surprise me, but can you believe he was present at one of the homes searched and WOULDN"T SPEAK TO INVESTIGATORS!!! ?????


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5964617

[raisincharlie]

Well ole "Booty Boy" continues to make the news!

And I know it shouldn't surprise me, but can you believe he was present at one of the homes searched and WOULDN"T SPEAK TO INVESTIGATORS!!! ?????


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5964617 (http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5964617)



Not a surprise - jy not talking that is. I suspect he definitely does not want this case resolved for obvious reasons I'd say.

[jilly]

Obviously, he didn't know they were coming because he wouldn't have been there! I guess he sat and looked down at the floor the whole time!:furious:
Or maybe he took Cassidy out? I wonder what time LE descended on the houses. Seems that jy would have been out working during daytime hours.

Normally, I'd take pity and sympathize with the family for what jy's putting them through but not this family.

[Smugshots]

OMG, this just made my day. Can you imagine the surprise Jason got when the police knocked on the door! How long is he going to live with his sister! You'd think her husband would be tired of his wife's low life brother sponging off them for over year.

[sweetmop]

OMG, this just made my day. Can you imagine the surprise Jason got when the police knocked on the door! How long is he going to live with his sister! You'd think her husband would be tired of his wife's low life brother sponging off them for over year.


I've thought about this too. A heart to heart is long over due, I'd say.

He has stayed under his sister Heather's roof for a long time now! And she is 8 months pregnant with her first child. She doesn't need all of the stress that Jason brings into their lives. And Jason doesn't even care!

He obviously has no respect for his family.

It's all about Jason... seems to be his motto, huh?


I can't get over this guy! He is something else, for sure!:loser:

[jilly]

OMG, this just made my day. Can you imagine the surprise Jason got when the police knocked on the door! How long is he going to live with his sister! You'd think her husband would be tired of his wife's low life brother sponging off them for over year.

I totally agree!!! Must have been early before he went to work hey? This is when they like to 'catch' people at home isn't it?

It made my day too!:woohoo:

[raisincharlie]

I totally agree!!! Must have been early before he went to work hey? This is when they like to 'catch' people at home isn't it?

It made my day too!:woohoo:


One has to wonder, as much as jy liked to email and carry on phone conversations if the reason for a sealed warrant isn't because someone has turned over some of that to LE. LE seals warrants often to protect informants. It is possible - one of his good buddies or even a family member has turned against him - never know, but I suspect there were some electronics collected under the warrants. Something has come up to get LE to head to the hills - hmmmm. JMO

[nanandjim]

...Pressure is still on Jason Young. Darn it all, huh? He tries to "move on," but pesky LE is still trying to solve the brutal murder of his wife.
Really...He has moved on; so why can't they? Geez...
Seriously, though, I appreciate the posting of the new article! It is good to see that the police are still working hard on this case. I hope, in spite of all the resistance from the Young family, that justice prevails for Michelle and her unborn baby boy.

[nanandjim]

I totally agree!!! Must have been early before he went to work hey? This is when they like to 'catch' people at home isn't it?

It made my day too!:woohoo:

Dang! I only wish that the media had been there, like in the Scott Peterson case. Wouldn't it have been nice to see the surprised look on Jason's face? Hopefully, they made Jason and his sister wait outside until they were finished searching the house. I hope to heck they found something.

I would think--at least for normal folks--that having police arrive at your home armed with a search warrant would make a person very nervous. I know that it would ruin my day. :o

[sweetmop]

One has to wonder, as much as jy liked to email and carry on phone conversations if the reason for a sealed warrant isn't because someone has turned over some of that to LE. LE seals warrants often to protect informants. It is possible - one of his good buddies or even a family member has turned against him - never know, but I suspect there were some electronics collected under the warrants. Something has come up to get LE to head to the hills - hmmmm. JMO

RC,
Exactly what Hubby said last night... The hard drive!! Or he could have said a little too much around the wrong " friend ". You know those sales meetings sometimes include alcohol. And, we all know how JY loves his " spirits ". Brings out his sociable side.:eek:

I agree that something came up bringing the investigators up the mountain! It's not a quick little day trip.

Another idea, what about the supposed " rich " Atlanta girlfriend? I heard that she recently dumped JY, and maybe there was more to the pillow talk than sweet talk. Plus she is alot younger, and her daddy may be real protective.

We've waited this long, maybe our wait is nearing the end! I hope!

[tinytown]

No news today on the Raleigh TV stations, but I wanted to bump for Michelle and her family. Hope all of you are doing well and looking for a resolution to this case as much as I am:crazy: .

[sweetmop]

Well they just had news on the local station here, WLOS TV, out of Asheville NC... closest city to Brevard.
They showed Pat Young's house, Heather's house and gave an update on the case through last Thursday. One of their reporters over there interviewing neighbors in Brevard! I bet he also attempted to interview some of the family.

If anyone lives in this area, they said they'll report more on this case coming up at 6:00.

[jilly]

One has to wonder, as much as jy liked to email and carry on phone conversations if the reason for a sealed warrant isn't because someone has turned over some of that to LE. LE seals warrants often to protect informants. It is possible - one of his good buddies or even a family member has turned against him - never know, but I suspect there were some electronics collected under the warrants. Something has come up to get LE to head to the hills - hmmmm. JMO

You're probably right! Just wondering about his mother's house though. Did jy ever stay there?........see it's been so long that now I'm forgetting basic things.:banghead:
jy would have his own laptop wouldn't he but then maybe he thought that his mother and sister's computers would be off limits? I've always thought that it's going to be something very stupid that he does to cause his arrest. It's usually the way it goes no matter how smart these guys think they are. He's cocky too so with that there's often carelessness.

Geez....I wish we knew.

[jilly]

Well they just had news on the local station here, WLOS TV, out of Asheville NC... closest city to Brevard.
They showed Pat Young's house, Heather's house and gave an update on the case through last Thursday. One of their reporters over there interviewing neighbors in Brevard! I bet he also attempted to interview some of the family.

If anyone lives in this area, they said they'll report more on this case coming up at 6:00.

This is fantastic! Plastered all over the newspapers, and especially Asheville TV!!:clap: Interviewing neighbors!!!:woohoo:

Please give us the 6:00 'more report' if you can!:)

[jilly]

Dang! I only wish that the media had been there, like in the Scott Peterson case. Wouldn't it have been nice to see the surprised look on Jason's face? Hopefully, they made Jason and his sister wait outside until they were finished searching the house. I hope to heck they found something.

I would think--at least for normal folks--that having police arrive at your home armed with a search warrant would make a person very nervous. I know that it would ruin my day. :o

No leaks in this police department, that's for sure. But from Sweetmop's recent post, it sounds like the media is trying to do something now. Don't know how much Ashville TV will get out of these mountain folk though. It's like a different planet down there!:eek:

I would hope it ruined their day. Since they apparently know what LE was after I guess only jy would know if they got what they were after.

[raisincharlie]

You're probably right! Just wondering about his mother's house though. Did jy ever stay there?........see it's been so long that now I'm forgetting basic things.:banghead:
jy would have his own laptop wouldn't he but then maybe he thought that his mother and sister's computers would be off limits? I've always thought that it's going to be something very stupid that he does to cause his arrest. It's usually the way it goes no matter how smart these guys think they are. He's cocky too so with that there's often carelessness.

Geez....I wish we knew.

Rumor mill has it jy moved back to Mommie's as little sis is with child and needs space for her own family. Don't know if it is true but since both houses were searched - I'd say yes JY has lived with his Mum.

As for computers being off limits - I have serious doubts that jy was respectful enough to consider others things off limits. In fact I would think jy would prefer to use someone else's computer just to keep his own clean, know what I mean ?

Cockyness- bet it just shines when he is drinking and he does like to drink. I seriously doubt he has been sober for the entire 15 months since the murder of his wife. My bet, someone knows something and someone told LE.

ETA - IMO he has to live somewhere free - best be saving all those big bucks he is earning for that lawyer he has, he is going to need him I suspect.

[raisincharlie]

I noticed some extra information in this report:

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2008-02-18-0011.html


"Meanwhile, 101 items have been sent to the State SBI lab for DNA and other kinds of testing. The earliest was sent on November 7 of last year, the latest was sent just last week. More than a third of those results are in yet no arrests have been made.

Harrison says the case is not going cold. It's a meticulous investigation that will come together. "




So just last week some items have been sent to the labs and only 1/3 of the 101 items have had testing completed - very interesting. Just last week LE searched homes where jy has lived since he scooted out of Raleigh. Any connection I wonder.

[jilly]

thatRumor mill has it jy moved back to Mommie's as little sis is with child and needs space for her own family. Don't know if it is true but since both houses were searched - I'd say yes JY has lived with his Mum. Ahhhhh. very interesting. So obviously he doesn't have the life insurance. I was hoping this was the case. Then there's the unsold house. Do you know if the Bank foreclosed on that? Even if they didn't jy shouldn't get too much out of it since it had a second mortgage as well. Guess he did get Michelle's (what was it 401K?) from PE, however.

As for computers being off limits - I have serious doubts that jy was respectful enough to consider others things off limits. In fact I would think jy would prefer to use someone else's computer just to keep his own clean, know what I mean ? Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was trying to say that jy might think that his mother's and sister's computer's were off limits to LE, therefore, it was safe for him to use them.

Cockyness- bet it just shines when he is drinking and he does like to drink. I seriously doubt he has been sober for the entire 15 months since the murder of his wife. My bet, someone knows something and someone told LE. I think you're right.

ETA - IMO he has to live somewhere free - best be saving all those big bucks he is earning for that lawyer he has, he is going to need him I suspect.Somehow I don't think he's saving. I would guess that when it comes to paying a lawyer, he'll be relying on his family to take out second & third mortgages. He'll tell them he'll pay it back when he's found ng and gets the life insurance.:bang:

I'd sure like to know what Pat thinks about his lack of financial responsibility. You'd think that if she really believes he's innocent she would have encouraged him to keep up the mortgage payments on the house and demanded that he apply for the life insurance. I find it hard to believe she's just sitting back letting him walk away from the house and insurance without saying anything about it while supporting him in the meantime.

I wonder if the rich girl paid for the Caribbean cruise.I can see jy footing the bill from Michelle's plan. Don't forget DisneyWorld and that trip to Ca. Big Shot type ya know!

[jilly]

I noticed some extra information in this report:

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2008-02-18-0011.html


"Meanwhile, 101 items have been sent to the State SBI lab for DNA and other kinds of testing. The earliest was sent on November 7 of last year, the latest was sent just last week. More than a third of those results are in yet no arrests have been made.

Harrison says the case is not going cold. It's a meticulous investigation that will come together. "




So just last week some items have been sent to the labs and only 1/3 of the 101 items have had testing completed - very interesting. Just last week LE searched homes where jy has lived since he scooted out of Raleigh. Any connection I wonder.

RC I seem to remember reading this quote awhile back. Do you think NBC has mixed this up. I think this quote came out when they took the patio boards from the house.

What I noticed in this article was that "several" homes had been searched. What's going on here?

Search warrants have not been returned, but investigators said they searched several homes.

[raisincharlie]

RC I seem to remember reading this quote awhile back. Do you think NBC has mixed this up. I think this quote came out when they took the patio boards from the house.

What I noticed in this article was that "several" homes had been searched. What's going on here?

Search warrants have not been returned, but investigators said they searched several homes.

It is possible it is a mix up about the samples sent to the lab - the press seems to be cutting and pasting these articles and just inserting the new info. Perhaps a question to NBC might clear it up - will give it a try. :)

[jilly]

It is possible it is a mix up about the samples sent to the lab - the press seems to be cutting and pasting these articles and just inserting the new info. Perhaps a question to NBC might clear it up - will give it a try. :)


Here's the old article!

Nov. 3, 2007

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-11-02-0027.html

Meanwhile, 101 items have been sent to the State SBI lab for DNA and other kinds of testing. The earliest was sent on November 7 of last year, the latest was sent just last week. More than a third of those results are in yet no arrests have been made.

I'm surprised I remembered this!:crazy:

[raisincharlie]

Here's the old article!

Nov. 3, 2007

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-11-02-0027.html

Meanwhile, 101 items have been sent to the State SBI lab for DNA and other kinds of testing. The earliest was sent on November 7 of last year, the latest was sent just last week. More than a third of those results are in yet no arrests have been made.

I'm surprised I remembered this!:crazy:

Darn - word for word. I'm not surprised you remembered it at all !:)

Seems like the Brevard neighbors are worried that a murderer might live next door:

http://www.wlos.com/players/news/top_stories/vid_353.shtml

[jilly]

Darn - word for word. I'm not surprised you remembered it at all !:)

Seems like the Brevard neighbors are worried that a murderer might live next door:

http://www.wlos.com/players/news/top_stories/vid_353.shtml

Ohhh. Good find. I guess we've been mislead again by one particular source that the whole town of Brevard is suporting the Youngs'. Pat's not gonna like the comments from that neighbor(Metcalf). I mean, how dare anyone think that jy could be capable.:boohoo:

[raisincharlie]

Ohhh. Good find. I guess we've been mislead again by one particular source that the whole town of Brevard is suporting the Youngs'. Pat's not gonna like the comments from that neighbor(Metcalf). I mean, how dare anyone think that jy could be capable.:boohoo:

Yes she will be placed on "the list" no doubt - bet she gets a call that she knows "all she needs to know" and a few threats from the infamous poster who likes to make subtle threats and then play dumb. :crazy:

[sweetmop]

Darn - word for word. I'm not surprised you remembered it at all !:)

Seems like the Brevard neighbors are worried that a murderer might live next door:

http://www.wlos.com/players/news/top_stories/vid_353.shtml




I almost posted this link too. You beat me to it. Thanks RC! :)

This is the 6pm newscast.

And the poor neighbor Tiffany! Wonder if her and Heather are friends.:confused: Or rather were friends. :( She was awfully brave to speak up and say what everyone is thinking!

This is big news around here! WLOS loves this type story. They won't let it drop, that's for sure.

[sweetmop]

The man that answers Pat Young's door... I suppose is Gerald McIntyre?

[sweetmop]

Yes she will be placed on "the list" no doubt - bet she gets a call that she knows "all she needs to know" and a few threats from the infamous poster who likes to make subtle threats and then play dumb. :crazy:


I really hope no one threatens or harasses her.

[raisincharlie]

I almost posted this link too. You beat me to it. Thanks RC! :)

This is the 6pm newscast.

And the poor neighbor Tiffany! Wonder if her and Heather are friends.:confused: Or rather were friends. :( She was awfully brave to speak up and say what everyone is thinking!

This is big news around here! WLOS loves this type story. They won't let it drop, that's for sure.

Sweetmop - looks like I stole your thunder - very sorry ! Please keep us posted as to any follow up stories - I promise not to look again !:crazy: Seriously - please keep us posted - this is getting very interesting.

Gerald answering the door - probably was him - or maybe jake boy has taken to answering the door for them...you know to screen out anyone who has a legitimate question.

[hollyjokers]

I am glad Jason continues to get harassed, even if only occassionally, by these search warrants. Must really get in the way of moving on with his life with his girlfriend when someone is continually bringing up the dead wife. boo hoo loser!

[jilly]

Yes she will be placed on "the list" no doubt - bet she gets a call that she knows "all she needs to know" and a few threats from the infamous poster who likes to make subtle threats and then play dumb. :crazy:

LOL. And Big Sis might have to come and say a few cutting words on behalf of her wittle bruther.

[jilly]

The man that answers Pat Young's door... I suppose is Gerald McIntyre?

That's what I thought sweet. Sure looked like a mountain man to me!

[jilly]

Sweetmop - looks like I stole your thunder - very sorry ! Please keep us posted as to any follow up stories - I promise not to look again !:crazy: Seriously - please keep us posted - this is getting very interesting.

Gerald answering the door - probably was him - :laugh: or maybe jake boy has taken to answering the door for them...you know to screen out anyone who has a legitimate question.

That's hysterical! Cracked me right up!

[jilly]

I am glad Jason continues to get harassed, even if only occassionally, by these search warrants. Must really get in the way of moving on with his life with his girlfriend when someone is continually bringing up the dead wife. boo hoo loser!

My sentiments exactly hollyjokers and I think for all of us. You can probably tell we're in a party mood here!:woohoo:

[raisincharlie]

I am glad Jason continues to get harassed, even if only occassionally, by these search warrants. Must really get in the way of moving on with his life with his girlfriend when someone is continually bringing up the dead wife. boo hoo loser!

The girlfriend dumped him by the way, but the ex girlfriend fits the pattern - out of state. I'm glad jy was present when those warrants were served - he got to watch LE in action - bet he was most uncomfortable in their presence and even more concerned about how it will be when they come for him directly. A preview of days still to come.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

The girlfriend dumped him by the way, but the ex girlfriend fits the pattern - out of state. I'm glad jy was present when those warrants were served - he got to watch LE in action - bet he was most uncomfortable in their presence and even more concerned about how it will be when they come for him directly. A preview of days still to come.

:) :)

[DEPUTYDAWG]

So we've been led to believe by a family friend that the family members don't discuss the events surrounding his whereabouts/alibi, etc. with Jason.

Wonder what the topic of discussion was between Jason and mother and/or sister when LE knocked on the door, and while they were waiting for the search to be completed. Did they talk about the weather, what was for dinner later, or...did one of them pull him to the side and actually broach the difficult subject? Or, did he "man up" and start a little explaining? Maybe not.

That elephant in the Brevard "room" is getting mighty big....

There comes a time, Jason...............................

[patti3]

I can't get that video to play. What am I doing wrong.

[raisincharlie]

I can't get that video to play. What am I doing wrong.

Dunno patti - do you have an adobe flash player on your system ? that's all i can think of.

[nanandjim]

The girlfriend dumped him by the way, but the ex girlfriend fits the pattern - out of state. I'm glad jy was present when those warrants were served - he got to watch LE in action - bet he was most uncomfortable in their presence and even more concerned about how it will be when they come for him directly. A preview of days still to come.
If I were Jason, the most unsettling time would be after the police left. I'd be wondering and fretting what they may have on me. I would be replaying that night over and over again in my head to see if I left any evidence of which I wasn't aware. I would be going over every conversation with family and friends. I would wonder if I accidentally left a website on my computer or if I had had hinted at something in an email. I would wonder if a family member had now become an informant. Of course, I would never murder anyone. So, my nerves would not be able to take it. Jason may be completely different...After all, he is a double murderer, IMO.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Nanandjim,

You're right. I bet that was a long Valentine's Day evening for him. Most likely not how he had envisioned it when he woke up the morning of February 14th. :waitasec:

IMO

[raisincharlie]

If I were Jason, the most unsettling time would be after the police left. I'd be wondering and fretting what they may have on me. I would be replaying that night over and over again in my head to see if I left any evidence of which I wasn't aware. I would be going over every conversation with family and friends. I would wonder if I accidentally left a website on my computer or if I had had hinted at something in an email. I would wonder if a family member had now become an informant. Of course, I would never murder anyone. So, my nerves would not be able to take it. Jason may be completely different...After all, he is a double murderer, IMO.

If jy was shook - in my opinion it was for only one reason - what does he say to his family - what invention can he come up with to explain away why LE was crawling through their homes? I bet he is worried but I also bet there is little remorse on his part about Michelle - if anything he is still ticked because she still rules his miserable life - he thought he would be done with her on November 3, 2006.

[happy2bn10ec]

I wonder if he thought they were there to arrest him when LE knocked on his door?

And ya'll watch it about them mountain people now - we ain't all bad!

All rednecks, yes, but not all bad.

[j2mirish]

If jy was shook - in my opinion it was for only one reason - what does he say to his family - what invention can he come up with to explain away why LE was crawling through their homes? I bet he is worried but I also bet there is little remorse on his part about Michelle - if anything he is still ticked because she still rules his miserable life - he thought he would be done with her on November 3, 2006.
can you imagine his blood pressure and heart beat when he saw them at the door? it is just a shame he didnt end up in handcuffs that day--- but he will

[close_enough]

new info on the case, per Greta, coming up.....

[close_enough]

oops!...looks like yall are ahead of Greta??

[close_enough]

ok...so where was this "new info" Greta was talking about:confused:
she never said another word about it!

[close_enough]

Here's the old article!

Nov. 3, 2007

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-11-02-0027.html

Meanwhile, 101 items have been sent to the State SBI lab for DNA and other kinds of testing. The earliest was sent on November 7 of last year, the latest was sent just last week. More than a third of those results are in yet no arrests have been made.

I'm surprised I remembered this!:crazy:

wow, good memory jilly!!!

catching up here....i think whatever Greta was going to talk about, must be this new info here on the thread....yall are good!

[chicoliving]

She didn't even get to it close. ergggg but the update on Amy and Daniel was important.

[jilly]

wow, good memory jilly!!! Do you know how long it's been since someone's said this to me?:D I'm gonna copy this and tape it to the top of my computer for family members to view!:crazy:Thanks Close!:blowkiss:

catching up here....i think whatever Greta was going to talk about, must be this new info here on the thread....yall are good!

My head is swimming this past 48 hrs! To heck with Greta!:D

[raisincharlie]

can you imagine his blood pressure and heart beat when he saw them at the door? it is just a shame he didnt end up in handcuffs that day--- but he will

Hello j2mirish !

He has been free for quite some time, bet he was getting a bit comfortable, as was his family. Search warrants being served on them was probably a most rude awakening after all this time. A friendly reminder that jy is still in the fore front of the "suspect' line. This had to be at the least troubling for the entire family. Denial has had a long time to set in.

I for one do not believe LE went there with sealed warrants. If the warrants become sealed it is because that lawyer, that according to Brevardians jy doesn't have, has gone to a judge with a motion to seal them. JMO

[close_enough]

She didn't even get to it close. ergggg but the update on Amy and Daniel was important.

oh good...i'm glad i wasn't just hearing things then, lol.....& yes, i agree; the update on Amy & Daniel was important!

[close_enough]

My head is swimming this past 48 hrs! To heck with Greta!:D

LOL @taping it on top of your computer....you nut!
:blowkiss:

[drumstick]

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/951291.html (http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/951291.html)

Published: Feb 19, 2008 12:30 AM
Modified: Feb 19, 2008 02:24 AM

<snip>

Wake County sheriff's deputies recently searched residences in Transylvania and Henderson counties where Jason Young, husband of slain Raleigh resident Michelle Young, has been living.


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http://ncwanted.com/episodeguide/video/2059764/

If you haven't watched this video about Michelle's case, it's worth your time.

[close_enough]

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/951291.html (http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/951291.html)

Published: Feb 19, 2008 12:30 AM
Modified: Feb 19, 2008 02:24 AM

<snip>

Wake County sheriff's deputies recently searched residences in Transylvania and Henderson counties where Jason Young, husband of slain Raleigh resident Michelle Young, has been living.


============
http://ncwanted.com/episodeguide/video/2059764/

If you haven't watched this video about Michelle's case, it's worth your time.

i had seen this video right after it aired, here at WS, but it's worth watching again...thanks drumstick:)
i must admit, i had to turn it off this time during Jason's mama yappin it up:mad:
"it will all come out in the end"......it sure will, lady:hand:

[jilly]

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/951291.html (http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/951291.html)

Published: Feb 19, 2008 12:30 AM
Modified: Feb 19, 2008 02:24 AM

<snip>

Wake County sheriff's deputies recently searched residences in Transylvania and Henderson counties where Jason Young, husband of slain Raleigh resident Michelle Young, has been living.


============
http://ncwanted.com/episodeguide/video/2059764/

If you haven't watched this video about Michelle's case, it's worth your time.

Thanks for the links drumstick and welcome aboard here!

RC did you notice in the Observer link the Sheriff's department confirmed the searchs??;)
Just to be clear - Henderson and Translyvania counties - are Pat and Heather in these Counties?

[raisincharlie]

Thanks for the links drumstick and welcome aboard here!

RC did you notice in the Observer link the Sheriff's department confirmed the searchs??;)
Just to be clear - Henderson and Translyvania counties - are Pat and Heather in these Counties?

Yes, lil sis lives in Etowah, Henderson County and Mrs. Young lives in Brevard, Translyvania County. Every report I have read and video watched the searches were confirmed.

Bringing over Sweetmop's post of a few days ago - Jy was present at one of those homes searched according to the quote they have attributed to Sheriff Harrison:

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5964617

"Harrison will only explain that investigators searched home where Jason Young has live since the murder. Sources tell Eyewitness News those homes are of Young's mother and sister in Brevard.

Sheriff Harrison says his investigators would still like to talk with Young, but he has refused. "In one location he was present, but I wasn't there," Harrison when onto explain Young wouldn't speak to investigators there."

[concernedperson]

Hello j2mirish !

He has been free for quite some time, bet he was getting a bit comfortable, as was his family. Search warrants being served on them was probably a most rude awakening after all this time. A friendly reminder that jy is still in the fore front of the "suspect' line. This had to be at the least troubling for the entire family. Denial has had a long time to set in.

I for one do not believe LE went there with sealed warrants. If the warrants become sealed it is because that lawyer, that according to Brevardians jy doesn't have, has gone to a judge with a motion to seal them. JMO

I was wondering about that. It does seem a tad bit odd to show up at someone's house with a sealed warrant. You need to show why you are there I would think but I am not LE.

So, along with that, I can see a defense attorney scurrying to the court house to get them sealed asap. Afterall, Jason doesn't need anymore bad press. He has managed to do this all by himself.

Soon it seems there will be something coming down the pike. I hope.

[jilly]

[QUOTE=raisincharlie;2005169]Yes, lil sis lives in Etowah, Henderson County and Mrs. Young lives in Brevard, Translyvania County.]

Good. I just wanted to make sure for myself. I'd heard of Etowah many times but never the County it is in. Thank you!:)

[raisincharlie]

[quote=raisincharlie;2005169]Yes, lil sis lives in Etowah, Henderson County and Mrs. Young lives in Brevard, Translyvania County.]

Good. I just wanted to make sure for myself. I'd heard of Etowah many times but never the County it is in. Thank you!:)

Jilly,

Another updated blurb from NC Wanted as of 21 Feb:

http://ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/blogpost/2466430/

"Jason Young was listed as an “adult suspect” in an application for a Non-Testimonial Identification Order on Nov. 7, 2006. No other person has been identified as a suspect in the case. Jason Young has not provided a statement to law enforcement or cooperated in the investigation of the murder of his wife.

The new searches indicate the investigation is very active and focused."

[drumstick]

Hi and thank you ....

Translyvania County seems to be popping up a lot lately in the news.

The Young family living there and Gary Hilton.

Odd to me that Michelle was clubbed to death.

According to the FBI stats, females are usually strangled to death.

Also odd that Hilton's MO was clubbing.

just thinking out loud ....

[Taximom]

IIRC, I think Michelle also showed signs of possible strangulation....

It's been a while but I thought she had possible scratches on her neck indicating she might have been trying to remove someone's *cough* hands from her neck.

[drumstick]

Her teeth all over the floor would indicate a clubbing .... :(

[Taximom]

Drumstick, I edited my original comment about strangulation to include "also". No doubt she was also beaten and clubbed.

[jilly]

Her teeth all over the floor would indicate a clubbing .... :(

This is true - she was beaten to death but the theory ( according to marks on her neck) is that his first attempt to murder her was by strangling. We've speculated that somehow that failed and he resorted to beating her.

[jilly]

[quote=jilly;2005209]

Jilly,

Another updated blurb from NC Wanted as of 21 Feb:

http://ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/blogpost/2466430/

"Jason Young was listed as an “adult suspect” in an application for a Non-Testimonial Identification Order on Nov. 7, 2006. No other person has been identified as a suspect in the case. Jason Young has not provided a statement to law enforcement or cooperated in the investigation of the murder of his wife.

The new searches indicate the investigation is very active and focused."

Thank you RC. I never noticed before about this "adult suspect. Strange or just standard wording?

[nanandjim]

This is true - she was beaten to death but the theory ( according to marks on her neck) is that his first attempt to murder her was by strangling. We've speculated that somehow that failed and he resorted to beating her.
I didn't stop to think about it, but wouldn't you think that his hands would be swelled and bruised? She had to be struck with a massive amount of force to cause her teeth to come out of her head and some to shatter? I would think that his dominate hand would have cuts and bruises unless he used a weapon. IMO, he did use a weapon. He is a scumbag coward.

[icefun]

I think he used a weapon that he ended up taking with hi and ditching somewhere along the way to his morning business meeting.

Jason..oh, Jason............LE wants to come out and play.

[raisincharlie]

I didn't stop to think about it, but wouldn't you think that his hands would be swelled and bruised? She had to be struck with a massive amount of force to cause her teeth to come out of her head and some to shatter? I would think that his dominate hand would have cuts and bruises unless he used a weapon. IMO, he did use a weapon. He is a scumbag coward.

Dunno about the cuts and bruises part - maybe not if he had gloves on. It is possible he may have had a swollen wrist from using a weapon while inflicting all the blows he did. To my thinking there may be more than one item that was used, one initially when he could not strangle her and maybe a second more "usable" weapon (i.e. flashlight or some such) after the first blow to get her from fighting him. She did fight him...

[nanandjim]

Dunno about the cuts and bruises part - maybe not if he had gloves on. It is possible he may have had a swollen wrist from using a weapon while inflicting all the blows he did. To my thinking there may be more than one item that was used, one initially when he could not strangle her and maybe a second more "usable" weapon (i.e. flashlight or some such) after the first blow to get her from fighting him. She did fight him...
Maybe, he did have on gloves and couldn't get a firm grip around her neck. I know that there were fingernail scratches. I assume that they were her own prying his grip off of her. He must have had a heavy instrument to make those severe gashes in the back of her head and to cause a fracture in her skull. I just hope that they are putting enough pieces of the puzzle together to arrest him soon. I hope that he is laying awake at night wondering what they have on him and when that knock at the door will be from the police there to arrest him.

If he is anywhere near normal, he must be looking over his shoulder and never completely at ease, especially after these last search warrants. These latest searches should tell Jason that they are not going to give up. He has not won...and LE is bound and determined to show him that justice can be served even if the criminal meticulously plans his crime and doesn't cooperate in the least.

[raisincharlie]

Maybe, he did have on gloves and couldn't get a firm grip around her neck. I know that there were fingernail scratches. I assume that they were her own prying his grip off of her. He must have had a heavy instrument to make those severe gashes in the back of her head and to cause a fracture in her skull. I just hope that they are putting enough pieces of the puzzle together to arrest him soon. I hope that he is laying awake at night wondering what they have on him and when that knock at the door will be from the police there to arrest him.

If he is anywhere near normal, he must be looking over his shoulder and never completely at ease, especially after these last search warrants. These latest searches should tell Jason that they are not going to give up. He has not won...and LE is bound and determined to show him that justice can be served even if the criminal meticulously plans his crime and doesn't cooperate in the least.

Bet he got a taste of that answer on Valentine's day (how ironic - hello sweetheart - we're still looking at you boy) when LE showed up where he was...wonder if he fell plumb to his knees AGAIN...:crazy:

[nanandjim]

Bet he got a taste of that answer on Valentine's day (how ironic - hello sweetheart - we're still looking at you boy) when LE showed up where he was...wonder if he fell plumb to his knees AGAIN...:crazy:
No, I don't think that he could pull off that "act" again. Valentine's Day...how appropriate...I just wish we knew what they were looking for and if they found it. I am hoping that it is the jewelry that he said was stolen that night.

[sweetmop]

[quote=jilly;2005209]

Jilly,

Another updated blurb from NC Wanted as of 21 Feb:

http://ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/blogpost/2466430/

"Jason Young was listed as an “adult suspect” in an application for a Non-Testimonial Identification Order on Nov. 7, 2006. No other person has been identified as a suspect in the case. Jason Young has not provided a statement to law enforcement or cooperated in the investigation of the murder of his wife.

The new searches indicate the investigation is very active and focused."



Thank you RC for this latest link at NCWanted! :blowkiss:

And the statement which you have highlighted should squash the JII's hateful and ridiculous postings regarding Meredith as suspect, or anyone else!

Can you imagine the stress the entire Young family is under at this point?
And I think JY probably was feeling he was 'home free'!
Poor ole Booty Boy! :boohoo:





Jason the next time LE comes knocking, hope your bags are packed!:woohoo: :woohoo:

[icefun]

Jason - YOu won't need to pack your bags....they are going to give you everything you need there...government issued!

[jilly]

Bet he got a taste of that answer on Valentine's day (how ironic - hello sweetheart - we're still looking at you boy) when LE showed up where he was...wonder if he fell plumb to his knees AGAIN...:crazy:

Ohhhh probably! And mama probably ran for the crying towel!:crazy:

[Samiya]

I'm going to post this as a new thread as well but wanted to give you guys and gals (especially those with kids!) the heads up.

I have created a website in honour of Michelle and Rylan at

www.justiceformichelle.com

I have special kids pages up now, the site is mostly aimed at children, and have written a children's book "The Sweetest Little Ladybug" that will only be available for free from that website for you to download for your kids.

There is also a giveaway for your kids too. A Russ 'wiggling ladybug' that kisses :) Details on how to enter the draw are on the website in the Kids pages. I still have work to do on it but it's nearly finished :) I plan to keep the giveaways as an ongoing thing and the website will be permanently on the web, even after justice is done.

Love
Sami
xxx

[raisincharlie]

Ohhhh probably! And mama probably ran for the crying towel!:crazy:


I'm wondering what LE left on jy's little mini van - a GPS maybe ? Hope he doesn't think about removing it - I believe that is a felony, but it pales in comparison to murder.

[raisincharlie]

This article has nothing to do with Michelle's murder however, this is an interesting article about a warrant which has recently been unsealed. It seems to me the main reason it was sealed was to hide a specific piece of evidence found on the body of this woman's charred remains.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2481836/ (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2481836/)

"What the warrants do not disclose, however, is how Vanlata Patel died or a motive for her death. But they do indicate that during the Jan. 23 search, police were looking for yellow rope or twine as well as gasoline or any other substance that could have used to start a fire."


I can understand why they wanted this fact hidden - in talking to the suspect they could basically lead or mislead him about this aspect. It is possible the same applies in these recent warrants served on jy and his family.

[jilly]

I'm wondering what LE left on jy's little mini van - a GPS maybe ? Hope he doesn't think about removing it - I believe that is a felony, but it pales in comparison to murder.

Really! I didn't know that! Very interesting.

[jilly]

This article has nothing to do with Michelle's murder however, this is an interesting article about a warrant which has recently been unsealed. It seems to me the main reason it was sealed was to hide a specific piece of evidence found on the body of this woman's charred remains.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2481836/ (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2481836/)

"What the warrants do not disclose, however, is how Vanlata Patel died or a motive for her death. But they do indicate that during the Jan. 23 search, police were looking for yellow rope or twine as well as gasoline or any other substance that could have used to start a fire."


I can understand why they wanted this fact hidden - in talking to the suspect they could basically lead or mislead him about this aspect. It is possible the same applies in these recent warrants served on jy and his family.

Yes its sounds like the same thing! So, if it's clothing or something else of jy's, you're right, they must have found a fiber. (hope, hope!).Thanks for the article RC.

[raisincharlie]

uh oh - the news has finally hit Brevard. Bet there will be an interesting editorial or at the least a demand for a retraction:


http://www.transylvaniatimes.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=1&twindow=&mad=&sdetail=571&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&cc

"McCracken was contacted about the recent search of her home but did not return the phone call. Pat Young was unable to be contacted.'



Guess the whole family has it down now - check voice mail frequently, don't answer the phone and keep lips shut. Jy should at least be ashamed of what he has done to his family.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

"McCracken was contacted about the recent search of her home but did not return the phone call. Pat Young was unable to be contacted.'




And that's all you need to know! :rolleyes:

[raisincharlie]

:laugh: :laugh:


And that's all you need to know! :rolleyes:

:clap:

[DEPUTYDAWG]

:laugh: :laugh:




:clap:

I put that in the realm of Jackie Peterson's "We want those" :eek:

[concernedperson]

I put that in the realm of Jackie Peterson's "We want those" :eek:

Sometimes it is that simple other times it is not. But in any case the vise is tightening on JY.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Sometimes it is that simple other times it is not. But in any case the vise is tightening on JY.

You are so correct. His circle of support can verbally deny it all they want, but at the end of the day, they must realize this was not a good sign at all. Look at how they're having to live - sister having to handle these phone calls, the mother avoiding phone calls, search warrants...life is not routine thanks to the actions/inactions of Jason Lynn Young.

Just my opinion, of course.

[jilly]

You are so correct. His circle of support can verbally deny it all they want, but at the end of the day, they must realize this was not a good sign at all. Look at how they're having to live - sister having to handle these phone calls, the mother avoiding phone calls, search warrants...life is not routine thanks to the actions/inactions of Jason Lynn Young.

Just my opinion, of course.

Hi Dep!:blowkiss:

I agree with you and Concerned. I wonder too how it's affected the younger sister who is now with child. Surely she must have been thinking about Michelle at the 4 month mark when she and her Rylan lost their lives.

This would have a HUGE affect on them all. They were pretty 'safe' before this appeared on Asheville TV and now the Transylvania Times. People will no doubt be talking behind their backs and giving them strange looks which must be very unsettling for people who thrive on their upstanding reputations. Say what they want, but they are human beings.

How they're dealing with this is mind-blowing! Someone made an excellent statement on another site. Something to the effect - their reputation is more important than the crime itself.

[scandi]

I didn't stop to think about it, but wouldn't you think that his hands would be swelled and bruised? She had to be struck with a massive amount of force to cause her teeth to come out of her head and some to shatter? I would think that his dominate hand would have cuts and bruises unless he used a weapon. IMO, he did use a weapon. He is a scumbag coward.


Hi Nana and KRAMS to all you dear friends who have kept Michelle's discussion ongoing.

I'm wondering if one of the blows that struck Michelle's head wouldn't have had to be a blow of massive force but rather one struck in the perfect place on her head that made her teeth come out.

I remember something about this on the site Samiya had dealing with forensics. Maybe it was a spot down below the ear towards the back of the head.

Anyone in the killer's position who had already tried to strangle her and been outdone by Michelle in that attempt would be somewhat tired himself I would think. He would have grabbed something close by as we all reasoned before, and if it was a Maglite, even a hard blow in the correct spot could have done this irrepuable damage to her.

Even a wimp like Jason could have done this IMO.

How exciting for the case still to be on track. The article implies it is not a new lead that prompted the searches, but that's OK. There was something they were looking for to get the warrant. The judge doesn't just hand them out to keep the suspect on edge!

xox Scandi

[sweetmop]

Hi Everyone!

It's good knowing that WCSO and the SBI are working so hard on this case, they're just like us, they are wanting justice for Michelle and Baby Rylan!
These latest searches and now the publicity in the local media has to be driving the clan nuts right now! And there's no denying now that the person they are looking at is Jason Young!
To obtain these latest search warrants, they must have found something to further, closer look at, and it had to be something of pretty great value to have a judge sign orders for search warrants, plus they need probable cause to obtain them too!
I would really love to see the probable cause listed!
Bet Jason's looking over his shoulder alot lately!

[raisincharlie]

Hi Everyone!

It's good knowing that WCSO and the SBI are working so hard on this case, they're just like us, they are wanting justice for Michelle and Baby Rylan!
These latest searches and now the publicity in the local media has to be driving the clan nuts right now! And there's no denying now that the person they are looking at is Jason Young!
To obtain these latest search warrants, they must have found something to further, closer look at, and it had to be something of pretty great value to have a judge sign orders for search warrants, plus they need probable cause to obtain them too!
I would really love to see the probable cause listed!
Bet Jason's looking over his shoulder alot lately!

I'm betting he had to buy some new undies :crazy: , maybe a few other family members and friends had to as well.

[sweetmop]

I'm betting he had to buy some new undies :crazy: , maybe a few other family members and friends had to as well.



:eek: You're probably right, RC!

That's agood one!:clap:

[NCBanker]

According to an inside source, the DA is wanting absolute ironclad evidence on this case before they grab Jason for fear of being sued, should he be found innocent. The Duke Lacrosse case has really put the fear into DA's across the country. They're thinking twice before rushing to judgement. Obviously they have more to go on than just speculation in this particular case!

[raisincharlie]

According to an inside source, the DA is wanting absolute ironclad evidence on this case before they grab Jason for fear of being sued, should he be found innocent. The Duke Lacrosse case has really put the fear into DA's across the country. They're thinking twice before rushing to judgement. Obviously they have more to go on than just speculation in this particular case!


Thanks for the information. I definitely don't think anyone can say there has been a rush to judgement in this case. Of course a lawyer will try it I suppose but after 1.5 years I doubt many would buy it. I think it is a good idea for the DA to have an iron clad case, heps to insure justice is properly applied in all cases. Here's hoping they find those few pieces of iron that may yet be missing.

[sweetmop]

According to an inside source, the DA is wanting absolute ironclad evidence on this case before they grab Jason for fear of being sued, should he be found innocent. The Duke Lacrosse case has really put the fear into DA's across the country. They're thinking twice before rushing to judgement. Obviously they have more to go on than just speculation in this particular case!


It seems that the comparison to the Duke Lacrosse case is a stretch! But I do understand the DA's concerns here!

Is there not enough circumstancial evidence right now for iron clad staus?
It seems there's more with this case than the Laci Peterson case had!

[j2mirish]

Thanks for the information. I definitely don't think anyone can say there has been a rush to judgement in this case. Of course a lawyer will try it I suppose but after 1.5 years I doubt many would buy it. I think it is a good idea for the DA to have an iron clad case, heps to insure justice is properly applied in all cases. Here's hoping they find those few pieces of iron that may yet be missing.
I hope those pieces arent rusty by the time they do-
and I agree- there was no rush to judgement in this case-:mad:

[strach304]

I'm still with you guys :blowkiss: Thanks to everyone who keeps us informed of the latest since this is where I check for news. Hope all is well with everyone and one day I'll see that headline post "Arrest."

[jilly]

I'm still with you guys :blowkiss: Thanks to everyone who keeps us informed of the latest since this is where I check for news. Hope all is well with everyone and one day I'll see that headline post "Arrest."

Great to see you strach!:blowkiss: Yes....we're all waiting for that arrest!

[Just the Fax]

According to an inside source, the DA is wanting absolute ironclad evidence on this case before they grab Jason for fear of being sued, should he be found innocent. The Duke Lacrosse case has really put the fear into DA's across the country. They're thinking twice before rushing to judgement. Obviously they have more to go on than just speculation in this particular case!

Well, you can't compare a case where a crooked DA fabricates evidence and totally railroads 3 innocent men. Rest assured , Colin Willoughby is not worried about being sued. However, he apparently is worried about being able to get a conviction at this point.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Hi Dep!:blowkiss:

I agree with you and Concerned. I wonder too how it's affected the younger sister who is now with child. Surely she must have been thinking about Michelle at the 4 month mark when she and her Rylan lost their lives.

This would have a HUGE affect on them all. They were pretty 'safe' before this appeared on Asheville TV and now the Transylvania Times. People will no doubt be talking behind their backs and giving them strange looks which must be very unsettling for people who thrive on their upstanding reputations. Say what they want, but they are human beings.

How they're dealing with this is mind-blowing! Someone made an excellent statement on another site. Something to the effect - their reputation is more important than the crime itself.


Hi Jilly! :blowkiss:
Just wanted to say hello and glad to "see" you again! :woohoo:

[sweetmop]

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/image/2499222/ :mad:

" Grounds to suspect you committed the crime..."

[sweetmop]

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/2498313/

New update at NC Wanted site regarding Jason's silence.

[raisincharlie]

Well, you can't compare a case where a crooked DA fabricates evidence and totally railroads 3 innocent men. Rest assured , Colin Willoughby is not worried about being sued. However, he apparently is worried about being able to get a conviction at this point.

Actually, I think Becky Holt is more concerned than Willoughby - she has one shot to bring the murderer to justice. I think she will do just fine at it in due time.

[raisincharlie]

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/2498313/

New update at NC Wanted site regarding Jason's silence.

Thanks for the update Sweetmop !

I find the following section of this update most intriguing - I bellieve it says quite a bit without saying a lot:

"Sheriff Donnie Harrison told NC WANTED his detectives need Jason Young to help them fill in basic details about Michelle’s activities leading up to her murder, her daily habits, anyone she was associating with, etc.
They also want him to explain his activities around the time his wife was killed. "


Hmmmm - obviously there has been no firm alibi offered, proven or even mentioned probably. Must be LE believes from the evidence they have obtained, there seems to be a distinct possibility that jy had the opportunity to commit this murder.

[sweetmop]

Thanks for the update Sweetmop !

I find the following section of this update most intriguing - I bellieve it says quite a bit without saying a lot:

"Sheriff Donnie Harrison told NC WANTED his detectives need Jason Young to help them fill in basic details about Michelle’s activities leading up to her murder, her daily habits, anyone she was associating with, etc.
They also want him to explain his activities around the time his wife was killed. "


Hmmmm - obviously there has been no firm alibi offered, proven or even mentioned probably. Must be LE believes from the evidence they have obtained, there seems to be a distinct possibility that jy had the opportunity to commit this murder.

Hi RC!
I agree with your summation. No iron clad alibi, huh?

I know we've all been waiting this out and praying for justice for Michelle, but I just wonder how much longer?

I get the feeling that those over in Brevard may be getting a feeling of them closing in on ' their Jason'!

At least with these last couple of updates, the idea of other suspects has pretty much been squashed so they can't spread horrible lies about Michelle's sister and mother any longer!

[Bobbisangel]

On one of the shows they were talking about Jason saying that he stayed in a motel/hotel two hours away from home the night that Michelle was murdered. Another piped up and said "my boss would kill me if I rented a motel room two hours away from home while on company business. My boss would tell me to drive the two hours there and two hours back...no motel!" I think most businesses would expect a person to make the drive there and back instead of spending company money on a motel for such a short drive. Was the motel part of his allibi and was it that close to his home?

I wonder if LE found anything in the home of his mother and sister. I think that they would cover for him if I remember right. He probably moved close to them so they could help him raise his little girl! I wonder what LE was looking for at their places? Anyone have any ideas? I hope he doesn't get away with this murder. Do LE have any evidence at all? Maybe it is hard to collect evidence when the person actually lived in the home too. No bloody hand/finger prints or anything?

Well, they finally got Mark Jensen after 10 years, Cutts is gone for 58 yrs, Sam Parker (Theresa Parker) was finally arrested so there is hope yet. So many women still missing while their husbands walk around thinking they will never get caught.

[raisincharlie]

[quote=Bobbisangel;2024279]On one of the shows they were talking about Jason saying that he stayed in a motel/hotel two hours away from home the night that Michelle was murdered.
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quote]




Bobbisangel,

Jason drove from Raleigh to a hotel in Hillsville Va - approximately 2.5 hours from his home the night of Michelle's murder. He "supposedly" stayed there and left in the morning to drive to Clintwood Va - another approximate 2.5 hours on to the west northwest of where he stayed. Unconfirmed is that he was supposedly late for his meeting, which the meeting was very short, at a branch type hospital which would have no ability to approve a purchase of the software he was trying to sell - if it had been a serious sales call he should have met with the parent company representatives I should think.

From this meeting he drove approximately another 5 hours to visit with his parents because he was "in the area" so to speak. An odd choice of timing since a couple from Charlotte were to arrive at his home the day Michelle was found to spend part of the weekend with him and Michelle - it was Home Coming weekend at NC State - big football game - one that both Jy and Michelle and friends usually attended.

Not sure what LE was looking for at his sister's and mother's houses. The warrants are supposedly sealed, so far we know nothing else about them. However I would venture to say that the probable cause section had to be pretty intense to get a judge to sign off to search two homes and a company vehicle, none of which belong to jy.

Yes, after 16 months LE is still investigating jy - seems to me it os obvious they believe he had the opportunity and previous warrants seem to indicate motive as well. Eventually they will get him - just a matter of time. After all this time it is also reasonable to think that the last person to see Michelle alive and the person who found her murdered have both been cleared - otherwise no need for these recent warrants dealing with jy. His days are numbered IMO.

[jilly]

RC Has it ever been mentioned by anyone, how much would have been in Michelle's 401k? Just wondering how much money this guy has now. Seems to me, after these 2 warrants to search the Co vehicle and publicity for the Company jy is working for, they might be looking for an excuse to get rid of him.

[sweetmop]

[quote=Bobbisangel;2024279]On one of the shows they were talking about Jason saying that he stayed in a motel/hotel two hours away from home the night that Michelle was murdered.
<snip for space>
quote]




Bobbisangel,

Jason drove from Raleigh to a hotel in Hillsville Va - approximately 2.5 hours from his home the night of Michelle's murder. He "supposedly" stayed there and left in the morning to drive to Clintwood Va - another approximate 2.5 hours on to the west northwest of where he stayed. Unconfirmed is that he was supposedly late for his meeting, which the meeting was very short, at a branch type hospital which would have no ability to approve a purchase of the software he was trying to sell - if it had been a serious sales call he should have met with the parent company representatives I should think.

From this meeting he drove approximately another 5 hours to visit with his parents because he was "in the area" so to speak. An odd choice of timing since a couple from Charlotte were to arrive at his home the day Michelle was found to spend part of the weekend with him and Michelle - it was Home Coming weekend at NC State - big football game - one that both Jy and Michelle and friends usually attended.

Not sure what LE was looking for at his sister's and mother's houses. The warrants are supposedly sealed, so far we know nothing else about them. However I would venture to say that the probable cause section had to be pretty intense to get a judge to sign off to search two homes and a company vehicle, none of which belong to jy.

Yes, after 16 months LE is still investigating jy - seems to me it os obvious they believe he had the opportunity and previous warrants seem to indicate motive as well. Eventually they will get him - just a matter of time. After all this time it is also reasonable to think that the last person to see Michelle alive and the person who found her murdered have both been cleared - otherwise no need for these recent warrants dealing with jy. His days are numbered IMO.


RC, this is a really, really good post! :clap:

I give praise to LE for their long, persistant work on this case!

I agree, JY's days are numbered!

[NCBanker]

Well, you can't compare a case where a crooked DA fabricates evidence and totally railroads 3 innocent men. Rest assured , Colin Willoughby is not worried about being sued. However, he apparently is worried about being able to get a conviction at this point.

If you haven't noticed, I make very few posts. The points I made are not conjecture, they're fact. He is very cognizant of crossing every t and dotting every i. Right or wrong, the Lacrosse case has affected DA's throughout the country. Because of this, DA's are being overly cautious about obtaining every piece of irrefutable evidence prior to an arrest being made. This point also applies to the Janet Abaroa case in Durham where her husband has yet to be arrested.

[NCBanker]

[quote=Bobbisangel;2024279]On one of the shows they were talking about Jason saying that he stayed in a motel/hotel two hours away from home the night that Michelle was murdered.
<snip for space>
quote]

Bobbisangel,

Jason drove from Raleigh to a hotel in Hillsville Va - approximately 2.5 hours from his home the night of Michelle's murder. He "supposedly" stayed there and left in the morning to drive to Clintwood Va - another approximate 2.5 hours on to the west northwest of where he stayed. Unconfirmed is that he was supposedly late for his meeting, which the meeting was very short, at a branch type hospital which would have no ability to approve a purchase of the software he was trying to sell - if it had been a serious sales call he should have met with the parent company representatives I should think.

From this meeting he drove approximately another 5 hours to visit with his parents because he was "in the area" so to speak. An odd choice of timing since a couple from Charlotte were to arrive at his home the day Michelle was found to spend part of the weekend with him and Michelle - it was Home Coming weekend at NC State - big football game - one that both Jy and Michelle and friends usually attended.

Not sure what LE was looking for at his sister's and mother's houses. The warrants are supposedly sealed, so far we know nothing else about them. However I would venture to say that the probable cause section had to be pretty intense to get a judge to sign off to search two homes and a company vehicle, none of which belong to jy.

Yes, after 16 months LE is still investigating jy - seems to me it os obvious they believe he had the opportunity and previous warrants seem to indicate motive as well. Eventually they will get him - just a matter of time. After all this time it is also reasonable to think that the last person to see Michelle alive and the person who found her murdered have both been cleared - otherwise no need for these recent warrants dealing with jy. His days are numbered IMO.

Excellent post. A couple of points...

All this talk about companies not allowing employees to obtain lodging two hours from home is not a universal policy. I've never worked for an organization that banned it. If there are early meetings in the same area the following day, or business to be done elsewhere, the expense is certainly justified.

While my nametag could be misleading, I actually work in the financial sector of healthcare. While there are many regional hospitals around the country who are owned by large "holding groups," the individual units have the autonomy to make capital expenditures on their own, as they did prior to being gobbled up. Healthcare subsidiaries operate in a completely different manner than subsidiaries of other industries.

My hunch on the two new warrants is that LE was looking to grab Mama's and Sis's computers to get a take on Jason's online activity - prior to and after the murder.

"RC Has it ever been mentioned by anyone, how much would have been in Michelle's 401k? Just wondering how much money this guy has now. Seems to me, after these 2 warrants to search the Co vehicle and publicity for the Company jy is working for, they might be looking for an excuse to get rid of him."

I highly doubt that Michelle had enough in her 401k to make any substantial contribution to Jason's lifestyle. She hadn't been in the job long enough to have amassed very much. I would bet with their being so cash strapped, i.e. house poor, that she wasn't contributing.

[raisincharlie]

[quote=raisincharlie;2024293]

<snip>

While my nametag could be misleading, I actually work in the financial sector of healthcare. While there are many regional hospitals around the country who are owned by large "holding groups," the individual units have the autonomy to make capital expenditures on their own, as they did prior to being gobbled up. Healthcare subsidiaries operate in a completely different manner than subsidiaries of other industries.

< snip>




NC Banker,

The hospital where JY had his meeting is a small hospital in Clintwood - can't recall the name of it off hand however I do recall it is a small 125 bed hospital unit in about nowhere. Question - do you think such a small community hospital like that would be financially viable enough to afford items other than those directly related to the actual practice of medicine ?

I ask only because I find this so called meeting to be very odd based on the size of the hospital and the remote area in which it lies. Just thinking a conversion to computerized records would more likely be up to a corporate thought process for approval at a minimum. Just wondering - your input would be most welcome. I realize without knowing their finances directly this is a difficult question - thanks.

[raisincharlie]

RC Has it ever been mentioned by anyone, how much would have been in Michelle's 401k? Just wondering how much money this guy has now. Seems to me, after these 2 warrants to search the Co vehicle and publicity for the Company jy is working for, they might be looking for an excuse to get rid of him.

Haven't heard anything one way or the other Ms. Jilly. I would think it would not be an excessive amount - I can't remember what year Michelle started at Progress but I don't think she was there over 5 years - maybe borderline vested - maybe not.

Jy went back to work in March of 2007 so he was without a job for 5 months at least - I suspect he pretty much needed to go back to work - the house payments were most likely draining his pocket. I do not believe the house has sold to this day even...

[jilly]

"RC Has it ever been mentioned by anyone, how much would have been in Michelle's 401k? Just wondering how much money this guy has now. Seems to me, after these 2 warrants to search the Co vehicle and publicity for the Company jy is working for, they might be looking for an excuse to get rid of him."

I highly doubt that Michelle had enough in her 401k to make any substantial contribution to Jason's lifestyle. She hadn't been in the job long enough to have amassed very much. I would bet with their being so cash strapped, i.e. house poor, that she wasn't contributing.

Interesting. Never occured to me that she wouldn't be contributing. Makes perfect sense to me now, though. Thanks for replying.:)

Haven't heard anything one way or the other Ms. Jilly. I would think it would not be an excessive amount - I can't remember what year Michelle started at Progress but I don't think she was there over 5 years - maybe borderline vested - maybe not.

Jy went back to work in March of 2007 so he was without a job for 5 months at least - I suspect he pretty much needed to go back to work - the house payments were most likely draining his pocket. I do not believe the house has sold to this day even...

Thanks RC - I got it now! For some reason, I thought she was at PE for 10 yrs but now that you mention it (5 yrs), I believe you're right.
Do you think he's still making house payments? I thought I read something about foreclosure....or was that just speculation?

[NCBanker]

[quote=NCBanker;2025552]


NC Banker,

The hospital where JY had his meeting is a small hospital in Clintwood - can't recall the name of it off hand however I do recall it is a small 125 bed hospital unit in about nowhere. Question - do you think such a small community hospital like that would be financially viable enough to afford items other than those directly related to the actual practice of medicine ?

I ask only because I find this so called meeting to be very odd based on the size of the hospital and the remote area in which it lies. Just thinking a conversion to computerized records would more likely be up to a corporate thought process for approval at a minimum. Just wondering - your input would be most welcome. I realize without knowing their finances directly this is a difficult question - thanks.

The EMR (electronic medical record) initiative is a priority in facilities throughout the country - large and small. Congress has passed legislation that provides either funds in total or partial to