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hoppyfrog
02-01-2008, 12:30 AM
From http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2008/01/cdi_executive_missing.aspx

Some two to three dozen officers are searching for John W. Glasgow, CFO and vice president of CDI Inc., on Petit Jean Mountain. Glasgow, 45, was reported missing to Little Rock police Tuesday.

Glasgow's Volvo was found parked, unlocked, at Mather Lodge. His laptop was in the back seat, Conway County sheriff's office spokesman Sonny Stover says. Stover said State Parks rangers are leading the search, assisted by Conway deputies and Franklin County emergency personnel.

Glasgow's wife, Melinda, who reported her husband missing, told police a .22 rifle was missing from their Little Rock home.

Stover said the search, concentrated around the lodge and trails in the State Park, will continue until dark. It's raining and sleeting on the mountain.

Statement from William Clark, Chairman and CEO of CDI Contractors, LCC.

“As reported in the media, John Glasgow, our chief financial officer, has been missing since Monday. John has been a trusted member of the CDI family for more than 17 years and our CFO for more than 12. We have been and will continue to assist law enforcement in their search for John. We remain hopeful he will be safely located.

In his absence, his duties have been carried out by other members of our accounting department, and I am taking an active role overseeing the effort. All of us at CDI continue to pray for his safe return and for his wife, Melinda. We also extend our sincere gratitude to the many state and local agencies, law enforcement officials and volunteers for their continued help in locating John.”

From http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=102735.62508.114877

He left "a bank account number and the code to their personal safe on a pad of paper and left it on the table along with some checks to be mailed," according to the officer's report.

and

According to the police report, Melinda Glasgow said her husband was "stressed over events occurring at work" but "never made any statements about harming himself." She also told police that a .22 rifle was missing from the residence.

But John Glasgow's brother, Little Rock lawyer Roger Glasgow, told ArkansasBusiness.com (http://www.arkansasbusiness.com//) that the single-shot rifle was a family heirloom, rarely used, and might simply have been moved to a different storage area.

"We don't know whether he took the rifle," Roger Glasgow said. "It was one of the things that went into our thoughts about putting out a missing persons report, but that's not all that meaningful to us."

Roger Glasgow said that leaving checks to be mailed didn't seem out of character for his brother, a certified public accountant, but leaving his laptop computer in his unlocked car did.

more at link

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http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/images/photos/john_glascow.jpg

Hope4Lost
02-01-2008, 04:38 AM
Leaving important numbers and info behind before he left is very telling. Either he was expecting to disappear, kill himself, or run into trouble. I'm thinking one of the first 2.

Annie
02-02-2008, 02:49 PM
They found the 22 rifle at the house. This sounds like a planned disappearance to me, but I could be totally wrong. There have been many people searching and Petit Jean Mt. is not that big.

http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2008/02/john_glasgow_update.as

Annie
02-04-2008, 01:06 PM
The family is trying to get information out to the public about him. I don't know any way to spread it faster than Websleuths. There is a downloadable poster for anyone who lives in the area.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aid=102814.54928.114943

debrock6
02-05-2008, 06:13 PM
As an employee of CDI, our fellow employees are very concerned about John's disappearance. If there's anything we can do from our end, even though we are states away, please let us know.

I see where Nancy Grace has mentioned his disappearance last night on her show and she will be mentioning him again this evening.

Our thoughts and prayers are with John's wife and family.

KR2tonenow
02-05-2008, 10:11 PM
There are alot of unanswered questions here. I certainly hope LE is looking for fingerprints at the home, in the car, and any evidence of kidnapping.

This gentleman was an employee (a VP no less) in Accounting.
An audit and employee questioning and interviewing is crucial at this time.

Leaving notes with financial matters for home says nothing to me. Other than the fact he may have had worries and concerns regarding work.

On Nancy Grace you can see the family members of John. This was a well loved guy. I hope they get some answers!!

SeriouslySearching
02-06-2008, 04:49 AM
This case is very reminiscent of the Ray Gricar case on the east coast that went missing and was never found. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39539&page=9&highlight=ray+gricar

Reading that he left a bank account number and the code to a safe, my first impression is suicide. I am glad they found the rifle, but it doesn't mean he would not have access to other weapons. I think there is more to this man's personal or professional life we are not hearing yet.

hoppyfrog
02-06-2008, 05:35 PM
http://www.eldoradonews.com/news/localnews/2008/02/06/brother-of-missing-man-spreading-word-ab-78.php

6 Feb 08

Gary Glasgow of El Dorado, the older brother of a man missing in the Petit Jean State Park since Jan. 28, said family and friends have continued searching for him and are spreading the word about his disappearance in hopes that new information will surface.

John W. Glasgow, 45, vice president and chief financial officer of CDI Contractors of Little Rock, was reported missing Jan. 28 by his wife, Melinda, after his co-workers contacted her to find out why he didn’t show up for work.

“He left his house around 5:15 last Monday morning, and it was probably 2:30 in the afternoon when people at work called his wife to find out why he hadn’t shown up for work. She thought he’d left home early to go to work, so that was really the first that anyone realized that there was something amiss,” said Gary Glasgow.

John Glasgow’s car was found the following day in the Mather Lodge parking lot on Petit Jean Mountain south of Morrilton.

“There are some unusual things about it,”...

more at link

debrock6
02-07-2008, 10:09 AM
Has anyone read the link above in total? It would only let me read a portion of it.

If you have, would you be so kind as to post it here, or at least a synopsis of what was said?

FYI a $5000 reward in any information leading to the discovery of John has been posted on the families web site.

hoppyfrog
02-07-2008, 10:12 AM
Has anyone read the link above in total? It would only let me read a portion of it.

If you have, would you be so kind as to post it here, or at least a synopsis of what was said?

FYI a $5000 reward in any information leading to the discovery of John has been posted on the families web site.

I did not try to read the entire article. Perhaps bugmenot.com would have a user ID and password for the site.

Hoppy

hoppyfrog
02-14-2008, 11:42 PM
http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2008/02/glasgow_case_new_details.aspx

13 Feb 08

With the family of missing CDI Contractors chief financial officer John Glasgow looking on, Little Rock attorney Chip Welch addressed the media at Allsopp Park today, saying that the family now believes that "evidence points away from the mountain." He referred to Petit Jean, where Glasgow's car was found Jan. 29 and which has been searched extensively without turning up a trace of him.

Among the news from the event:

The reward for Glasgow has been increased to $70,000 -- $50,000 from the family, and and additional $20,000 from letsbringthemhome.org

Glasgow's Volvo has been forensically examined, and found to contain what Welch categorized as "no fingerprints," indicating that it may have been wiped down before being parked on Petit Jean.

Trained search dogs found no trace of Glasgow's scent leading away from his parked car, or anywhere else on the mountain.
In addition to Glasgow's cell phone and laptop computer, his bank card was found in the car. His wallet and car keys have not been found.

A park ranger at Mather Lodge on Petit Jean told police that Glasgow's car appeared in the parking lot there between noon and 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday. He'd last been seen leaving his home before 6 a.m. the day before, Monday, Jan. 28.

Welch said that while Glasgow had left a bank account number and the combination to a safe on a notepad at his home -- which some have taken as a suggestion that Glasgow was preparing to end it all -- he added that the numbers were found written several sheets from the top sheet of a pad of paper, and there is no way of knowing when they were written.

He reiterated, in response to a question, that there was no indication of any financial irregularities at CDI, one of the state's largest construction companies, a venture owned in equal parts by the Dillard Department Store family and the family of the late William Clark. A deal reportedly was nearing completion for purchase of Clark's share of the company by his son and investors including Glasgow.

more at link

Swannie
02-19-2008, 01:58 PM
Hello, I hope my post finds you in good spirits.

I found this blog and thought some of you might find it of interest. Please view the blog at the link:
http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2008/02/friday_night_lights_glasgow_re.aspx


Swannie

hoppyfrog
03-01-2008, 09:58 PM
http://www.eldoradonews.com/news/localnews/2008/03/01/new-information-arises-in-connection-wit-91.php

1 March 08

A missing Little Rock businessman with local ties was having a stressful financial relationship with Dillard’s Inc., before he vanished, according to one publication.

Arkansas Business reported late this week that John Glasgow “was under tremendous stress in the days before CDI’s chief financial officer disappeared on Jan. 28,” the publication wrote on its website Thursday.

Glasgow at the time was chief financial officer of CDI Contractors LLC in Little Rock, which is half-owned by Dillard’s Inc. Glasgow has not been seen since Jan. 28, although his car was found near Mather Lodge at Petit Jean State Park. He was 45 at the time. Glasgow’s brother, Gary, lives in El Dorado.

There is a $70,000 reward by the family and “Let’s Bring Them Home,” based in Springdale. A massive search and rescue effort in the state park failed to find Glasgow.

more at link

STEADFAST
10-06-2008, 06:36 PM
John Glasgow Missing Web Site, including links to Television Special, Magazine Feature, other media links
http://www.findjohnglasgow.com/
John was last seen leaving his Little Rock, AR home Monday morning around 5:30 am, January 28, 2008.
A cell phone ping later that day indicated that he was in the vicinity of Petit Jean Mountain.
His car was found unlocked the next day at the Mather lodge on Petit Jean with valuables still inside.

Websleuths Thread
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59600&highlight=glasgow

Tonia
01-24-2009, 05:02 PM
I just read about this story and it is interesting to say the least.While researching the story i came upon the story of John within a article that is very interesting. It seems as though he was stressed about his job. Also the part about the embezzlement that he recovered. Could it be the man was mad at John and wanted to get back at him. Also the safe number on the paper,why did he write it down if Melinda already had it. Really interesting story. I cant find any updates about him though short of Oct. on the families website for him. The link below really tells alot about John and his story.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=103412.48591.115557&view=all

Kat
01-24-2009, 06:19 PM
I don't see any recent updates either. His family has a website up:

http://www.findjohnglasgow.com/news.shtml

That link does not take you to the homepage but to the news section of their site. I haven't had time to read yet. Just wanted to go ahead and share.

Tonia
01-26-2009, 10:10 PM
A Year Later: Family Believes John Glasgow's Dead

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=111575&page=1

dreamweaver
05-04-2009, 10:57 PM
http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing
March 2009 article from Conde Nast magazine. Portfolio.com
Did John Glasgow know too much about Dillard's Dept. Stores financial dealings?
He was the CFO of a billionaire dollar company.
Major problems before he disappeared.

John Glasgow's family has money. They cannot find any trace of John Glasgow.
Where is he?

dreamweaver
05-04-2009, 10:59 PM
http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing
March 2009 Conde Nast, Portfolio.com article.
Very interesting information.

txsleuth
05-14-2009, 12:10 PM
The family has teamed with Let's Bring them Home and is offering a $100,000 reward in this unsolved case. This case is extremely similar to the case of missing DA Ray Gricar of Centre County, PA IMO. His car was found abandoned some distance from his home too...and that's where the investigation centered.

http://findjohnglasgow.com/news.shtml

dreamweaver
10-20-2009, 04:45 PM
AMW is said to air information about John Glasgow's disappearance
this Sat., Oct. 24, 2009.

Possibly preempted by baseball, but will air within a couple of weeks.

dreamweaver
12-01-2009, 06:40 PM
http://www.vanburencountydem.com/articles/2009/11/25/news/nws02.txt
Skeletal remains found in northern Van Buren County.

OkGrace
12-03-2009, 09:23 PM
Hopefully this person will be identified and a family will have some sort of resolution....

truthsleuth
01-15-2010, 11:40 PM
As of yet, still no identification has been made of the remains found in late November 2009 in the remote area of northern Van Buren County, Arkansas.

No further news can be found on this case. Anyone hear anything?

shefner
07-30-2010, 12:57 AM
Still wondering what happened to this case......

ggbliss
09-01-2010, 09:36 PM
Still wondering what happened to this case......

Shefner, thank you for your interest in my brother's case. There are no updates to be reported. However, the Investigation Discovery channel ("ID") will be featuring John on an upcoming episode of their show, "Disappeared." The series premieres October 4th, but we do not know yet when John's episode will air.

summer_breeze
09-04-2010, 07:39 AM
Welcome to Websleuths ggbliss. My prayers for the return of your brother to your family.

ggbliss
09-24-2010, 12:25 PM
Shefner, thank you for your interest in my brother's case. There are no updates to be reported. However, the Investigation Discovery channel ("ID") will be featuring John on an upcoming episode of their show, "Disappeared." The series premieres October 4th, but we do not know yet when John's episode will air.

We have now gotten word that John's episode on "Disappeared" will premiere on Monday, November 29, on the Investigation Discovery Channel (ID) at 10 p.m. ET.

SuperKyle
11-05-2010, 12:41 PM
You would be Mr. Glasgow's brother then is that right?
Terribly sorry for your the situation you are in.
And now I can ask a question that has been on my mind for some time now.
If the dogs found his sent at a couple of motels or hotels, did anyone investigate the logs from those hotels and the rooms in between the times he was missing and to the dogs being there?
Or were their any records of Mr. Glasgow having stayed there, possibly on the corporate card or whatever else.

I'm wishing you the best, truly.

shefner
11-05-2010, 01:56 PM
We have now gotten word that John's episode on "Disappeared" will premiere on Monday, November 29, on the Investigation Discovery Channel (ID) at 10 p.m. ET.

Thanks so much, ggbliss, for letting us know the date of the episode. For those who have never seen it, "Disappeared" is an interesting show that highlights mysterious cases of those who have gone missing. It is a great way to make the public aware of those individuals and the circumstances surrounding their disappearances. I will certainly be watching.

Praying in earnest for you and your family, ggbliss.

Texas Mist
11-29-2010, 02:37 AM
Reminder - this episode airs Monday nite

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/disappeared/the-missing/john-glasgow.html

shefner
11-29-2010, 03:17 AM
I have been re-reading info about this case....can't wait to see the episode.

ggbliss
11-29-2010, 05:52 AM
You would be Mr. Glasgow's brother then is that right?
Terribly sorry for your the situation you are in.
And now I can ask a question that has been on my mind for some time now.
If the dogs found his sent at a couple of motels or hotels, did anyone investigate the logs from those hotels and the rooms in between the times he was missing and to the dogs being there?
Or were their any records of Mr. Glasgow having stayed there, possibly on the corporate card or whatever else.

I'm wishing you the best, truly.

Yes, the logs for the motels were checked, and there were no indications that my brother, John, was registered there.

ggbliss
11-29-2010, 06:04 AM
I have been re-reading info about this case....can't wait to see the episode.

Thanks so much, Shefner. Today's the day the show premieres! I'm a little worried now that I have seen the trailer, because it leans so strongly toward walk-away, and that is not what I believe happened, simply because it would be so incredibly out of character for my brother to abandon his family. It's been nearly three years now, and there have been no further sightings.

The dog hits and the supposed "sighting" at the Waffle House continue to mystify us. We know that sightings are generally very unreliable. We've had other sightings where we have checked video, and the person in the video was not even vaguely similar to my brother. The dogs that hit on the motels were from a New England dog team that specialized in following old and contaminated scent. I am not sure what their track record is.

shefner
11-29-2010, 11:36 PM
ggbliss...thank you for your response. I am currently watching the episode. Is it possible that John had a breakdown of some type and walked away due to this? Also, is it possible that Dillard's was somehow involved....things seemed great for John until they came into the picture.

On a personal note, my heart breaks for you and your family. My continued prayers are with you. I know that any word would bring such relief for you.

Snarky247
11-30-2010, 12:36 AM
ggbliss....just wanted to add my best wishes & positive thoughts to you, your brother & your sister-in-law. Something about her broke my heart watching Disappeared tonight.

shefner
11-30-2010, 12:43 AM
ggbliss....just wanted to add my best wishes & positive thoughts to you, your brother & your sister-in-law. Something about her broke my heart watching Disappeared tonight.

Yes, I agree Snarky. Something about this case just tugs at my heart...and keeps my mind spinning.

BTW, Snarky, congrats to you on the birth of your most recent grandbaby. That's precious...

twinkiesmom
12-01-2010, 10:46 AM
I watched the Disappeared segment with great interest, but it raised more questions..What was the final answer regarding the Dillards financials? Was there money missing or was the discrepancy all on paper? Did John have enemies in his own office?

I also wondered after seeing the segment given his extreme devotion to family and extreme stress over work issues whether the Waffle House sighting was real, and he was operating in some form of fugue state (not aware of his identity and operating on autopilot). Just speculating, but the circuitous route to the state park shows some evidence of disorganized thinking (assuming John was driving the car).

I also think the details of this case are somewhat similar to Ray Gricar's and wonder if they disappeared the same way.

scaredtopost
12-01-2010, 06:20 PM
I first learned of this case after watching last night’s episode of Disappeared. My heart breaks for John’s family. How can someone just disappear? It seems impossible, but there are so many missing people. It’s truly baffling. It would be wonderful to hear of some type of progress on this case. My first thought was he was kidnapped because he uncovered money mishandling. He was said to be such an honest man, I’m certain he would reported any such mishaps. Could he have been silenced before being given the chance? I hope his family finds comfort in remembering what a wonderful man he seemed to have been. I hope they will one day find a resolution. They at least deserve to know what happened.

summer_breeze
12-01-2010, 06:58 PM
Hello all.

I am going to move this thread to the Discussion forum.

~Summer_Breeze

dreamweaver
12-01-2010, 07:51 PM
John Glasgow: I was very glad to see Disappeared feature his missing person status/story.

I know it may be as simple as he walked away.
But, ever since I first read about this case, I felt there was more to it
than that.

JMO:
Dillard's. It is a huge corporation.
Maybe, their stance toward John made him want to run and take any focus off his family.
?
Maybe, his disappearance is at their hand's... as in the stuff of all the The Firm
kind of movies.
I certainly do not know.
And as I said, JMO>

I just hope he can be found. Or there is an answer, something to ease his family's mind.

October
12-01-2010, 09:40 PM
I watched the Disappeared show on Monday, and this case has been on my mind since. I find that the show raises more questions for me than it answers.

Starting at the beginning, are we sure that John was the one driving his vehicle when it left his home? John was very well-off, I assume his residence has some sort of security system. Were there any cameras? One thought I kept having while watching was that John may not have left the house alive. Would it have been possible for someone to gain access to the home without tripping a security system? Did John turn off the system to let someone in or go out to meet someone before the 5:15 departure time? The neighbor could not verify that John was driving, only that he saw the vehicle leave.

John's phone was turned on at the same time he left the house and helped track his vehicle. Was it customary for him to turn his phone off at night and turn it back on when he left for work? Most people I know leave their phones on all of the time. Perhaps someone turned it on as a red herring because they wanted the search centered on the mountain instead of where it should have been.

Also, while my gut says that John's wife Balinda does not know what happened to her husband, but was she ever given a polygraph test? There is the possibility that something happened in the house or that Balinda knew he was walking away and why. She says they had a conversation discussing their options only a week or so before the disappearance, maybe what happened was one of the options they discussed. It was customary for John to come home for lunch, was it for Balinda as well? Did she usually communicate with him throughout the day? She knew that he had left early without showering or making coffee, and then didn't talk to him at all. Yet she didn't have a clue that something was wrong until John's colleague called her at 2:30. Was that an unusual amount of time for her to not realize it?

The dog picking up the scent at the same Waffle House where the server was 100% certain that he had served John is a fantastic coincidence. Were the rooms that the dog lead them to searched or fingerprinted? Do they know who was staying in those rooms in the weeks following the disappearance? Have these leads been checked out? Were the security cameras at the gas station where the scent was picked up looked at? If John was at these places, he had to have had help getting down the mountain or help driving the car up to the lodge. He could not have done those things by himself.

Is there a possibility that John was going to resign that day? All of his company issued cards and phone together in his company laptop case makes me wonder if this was the case and someone didn't want that to happen.

Whew! Lots of rambling going on in this post. I just wanted to get my thoughts out there and see if anyone could answer questions.

illeKllaH
12-01-2010, 11:39 PM
I, too, first learned of this case after watching Disappeared. I know it's horrible for the family to think, but it does seem as though he just disappeared. Just some things I've been wondering about:

1. Any banking activity since? What about any abnormal transactions shortly before? While it wouldn't provide much in the way of evidence, it might give some indication as to his intentions.

2. I saw SR dogs were present. Were, God forbid, cadaver dogs ever taken to the hotel/lodge place in the mountains?

3. Going along with the dogs, they didn't hit on the hotel room or Waffle House for no reason, IMO. Did WH have security tapes? Were the hotel records checked beyond if he was registered? Someone was there.

4. Has his SSN been tracked at all? I know in most states the time to declare someone legally dead is usually 7 years, so that's not an option at this point, but Discovery ID had a case not too long ago in which a father abandoned his family and started over in Galveston, TX, I believe. His wife had him declared legally dead and when she did that, she received a notice stating he wasn't dead. The way they found him was by tracking his SSN after that happened.

5. One thing that I have trouble getting past is that there were no prints found on the car. Just from grabbing the door handle, you're going to leave a print. It sounds as though it was wiped down...which wouldn't make sense if he was going to up and disappear on his own accord.

6. He left that area somehow. Are there any bus lines or anything that run close?

7. I assume both his work and personal computers were checked extensively?

8. All through the episode, I couldn't shake the idea that Dillard's had something to do with it. I know he was cleared eventually, but what happened before that? Did he find something that he either shouldn't have or that could've been detrimental to the Dillard's name?

I hope some answers are found in this case for the family.

OkGrace
12-02-2010, 06:42 AM
I am fairly local and actually searched with TES one day on the mountain,
(I do not know anything other than what has been reported.) I met a brother and sister. If I recall he has several siblings and they are a close knit family.
I did not get the feeling that he "ran". I often think of this case and his family.

MomofBoys
12-02-2010, 01:23 PM
I had a few jumbled thoughts about this case after watching the Disappeared ep.

I agree with a PP that the dogs hitting a trail after a fairly credible sighting was significant.

He left all his work items together in a case and some of those items would have been out. The work cell, etc. Did he typically package all those things together? I can't imagine.

The password and bank account numbers written down on the pad were compelling tidbits, even if Melinda now discounts their importance. She says they had the password written down elsewhere in the house. But what wasn't mentioned on the Disappeared ep was that he also had left pre-signed checks for her to mail out. I'd love to know if this was usual behavior.

According to LE, he has never accessed his bank accounts since. There was more money in the safe than he and Melinda had discussed. Was he attempting to make sure she'd never be in a financial crisis?

He disappeared three days after he wrote the letter to Dillard's, but it's still unknown if that was ever sent, I guess.

I believe the dogs couldn't pick up a trail because he left his car and walked (hopefully) into one parked next to him.

My gut says he's living in a cabin somewhere living off the land. He loved the outdoors and felt at peace there. Maybe everything wasn't as idyllic in the marriage as alleged; there wouldn't even have to be major discord, but maybe the pressure was coming from more than one direction.

The only thing I can't wrap my brain around is the fingerprint/car anomaly and why LE was seemingly so quick to dismiss the sightings in Russellville. Is there a regional airport there? Train? Greyhound station? He could get a long way on what, to him, would be a fairly unnoticeable amount of cash. He could have started putting together an escape route on the 'worst day of his life.' Maybe he even intended to call for Melinda, but embarassment/fear/media attention has made him stay underground.

gaia227
12-07-2010, 12:41 PM
I watched the Disappeared episode last night and was very intrigued. The first thing I thought of was Ray Gricar - not to say they are related, their disappearences are just very similar.

One thing I don't recall being mentioned on the show was his computer records. Were his personal computers, work computer and/or laptop investigated to see what, if anything, he had been looking at? Any emails that were out of the ordinary? Google searches? Etc.

Given the circumstances, on paper it seems like a man who staged his disappearence however it just doesn't seem quite right. Was CDI ever able to figure out where that 7.1 million dollars went? I know John's family reads here and I certainly do not want to offend anyone by questioning John's character - by all accounts he seems like an honest, hard-working, responsible, good person. For the sake of looking at every possibility - is there a possibility John could have stashed some of the 7.1 million and that is what he is using to get by IF he did stage his disappearence which I don't really believe is the case but anything is possible.

The timing of his disappearence is just so suspect and raises so many different scenarios. Was John going to meet someone that morning regarding work, something so sensitive they wanted to meet outside of work or home. Someone from CDI or from Dillard's? Did John just need to clear his head so he drove out to Petit Jean to take an early morning hike before work- it IS interesting that is where his car was found considering it was a place he was familiar with. If so, then why did he leave everything work related in his car and then leave it unlocked? That doesn't make sense. Every scenario you can think of which makes some sense always seems to end with but....that doesn't really make sense in the end.

The situation with the sightings and the dogs in Russellville are interesting. The dogs went to the exact places John had reportedly been seen - that seems like more than just a coincidence. But if he did plan on getting away and starting over it seems unlikely he would spend 3wks in Russellville which was pretty close to his home and still in the news coverage area. Why would he do that? If I was going to run away I would go a lot further than less than 100 miles.
If someone was wearing John's clothes would the dogs still detect his smell enough to follow it 3wks later?

So many questions. I feel for the family. I couldn't imagine my husband vanishing in the first place but the vanish and then leave this trail of baffling clues would be unbearable.

Wannabe2
12-07-2010, 07:06 PM
An idea that was not discussed was whether someone came to the Petit Jean mountain lodge parking lot in another vehicle and picked John up. It would explain why the scent trails did not really go anyplace. He arranged to meet a helper or friend there, ditch his cell phone into water, and make it possible for everyone to think that he took his own life in a nice natural setting. He may have seen no other solution than to walk away. He obviously left his wife well provided for.

swanniee11
12-08-2010, 01:38 PM
I just watched the show today and came directly here. I am baffled that he is SUCH a family man, worked O/T to figure out what was going on in the financial aspect of his job with Dillards. I have a sick feeling he came across something and possibly went to meet someone in regards to this. For someone to record his conversations, something is wrong there. Not to mention they go to the public saying John or the firm had done nothing wrong and a month later place the blame on them??? I also have a sick feeling about the fact that there were no finger prints on his car, not even his. Who's to say that something went wrong and the perp who may have had his scent on him is the person the dogs tracked. Could have been a hired hit. IMO.

Roger, Melinda and family... I am very sorry for what you and your family are going through.

ggbliss
12-09-2010, 09:34 AM
The "Disappeared" episode on John Glasgow is available (at least for now) to watch at http://www.megavideo.com/?d=N5V382UP Just click the big red "play" button and it should start.

J. J. in Phila
12-13-2010, 02:31 AM
I just watched the show today and came directly here. I am baffled that he is SUCH a family man, worked O/T to figure out what was going on in the financial aspect of his job with Dillards. I have a sick feeling he came across something and possibly went to meet someone in regards to this. For someone to record his conversations, something is wrong there. Not to mention they go to the public saying John or the firm had done nothing wrong and a month later place the blame on them??? I also have a sick feeling about the fact that there were no finger prints on his car, not even his. Who's to say that something went wrong and the perp who may have had his scent on him is the person the dogs tracked. Could have been a hired hit. IMO.

Roger, Melinda and family... I am very sorry for what you and your family are going through.

I have to generally agree here,

I could see murder or a forced departure i.e., "If you don't leave, we'll sue you and even if you win you'll be broke and you're reputation ruined. We'll give you enough money for a new start, and your wife will get your assets,"

I could also see someone saying, "Lay low for a few days while we sort this out," and them sending to killMr. Glasgow.

summer_breeze
02-07-2011, 07:41 PM
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2011/02/07/death-declaration-sought-for-john-glasgow

Posted by Max Brantley on Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM


A petition has been filed in probate court seeking a death declaration for John Glasgow, the Little Rock construction company financial officer who's been missing since leaving his home early on the morning of Jan. 28, 2008. His car was later found at Petit Jean State Park, but no trace of him has been found.

http://www.arktimes.com/images/blogimages/2011/02/07/1297109232-johnglasgow.jpg

JaneDoe91
05-11-2011, 02:33 AM
I am absolutely positive that this man did not just decide to walk away from his life. I have nothing to base that on but my gut feeling, but I just can't bring myself to believe this was a "walk away".
Just a couple things that struck me as pecular. The only reason I can think of for a person to wipe away fingerprints is that of avoiding detection. A man who is going to walk away voluntarily has no reason to wipe his prints off his own vehicle. That simply makes no sense.
It also struck me as odd that he felt the need to "bug" his office phone line. I get that he felt his credibility was being called into question, but that just struck me as extreme. I had to wonder if maybe he was bugging his office line because he was afraid of some threat that he hadn't shared with anyone else. It also occured to me that maybe he had concerns of a collegue being involved in misconduct and bugged his office line in an effort to substantiate his suspicions. To be honest, I suspect we'll never know the truth behind the Dillards/CDI dispute.
Ultimately, I can't shake the feeling that the Dillards/CDI dispute had very little to do with Mr. Glasgow's disappearance. I've always believed that he went up to the mountain to "decompress" so to speak and met with a tragic accident. If only I could get past that fingerprint issue...
My thoughts and prayers are with Mr. Glasgow's loved ones. Every time I see something like this, I give my mom and dad a hug and thank the good lord that they are both still with me. I'm a very lucky person indeed.

SuperKyle
07-21-2011, 09:04 AM
John's website can no longer be accessed.

http://www.findjohnglasgow.com/

Interesting to see it taken down. Though pronounced dead, I would be figuring to keep a lookout.

J. J. in Phila
07-22-2011, 02:17 AM
John's website can no longer be accessed.

http://www.findjohnglasgow.com/

Interesting to see it taken down. Though pronounced dead, I would be figuring to keep a lookout.

As you know, I follow the Gricar case. In that one, the family website went down for about 8 months and was eventually replaced by a (now extremely dated) copy of the Wikipedia page on Mr. Gricar, without any contact information, even for law enforcement.

I don't think it is too strange for the Glasgow family, who has felt Mr. Glasgow is dead, to pull the site.

J. J. in Phila
07-22-2011, 02:45 AM
I didn't see it posted, but here is the article on Mr. Glasgow being declared dead. http://news.yottos.com/ShowNews/Missing_CDI_Executive_John_Glasgow_Declared_Dead_1 5-04-2011

Pipe-Light
11-15-2011, 09:59 AM
I am absolutely positive that this man did not just decide to walk away from his life. I have nothing to base that on but my gut feeling, but I just can't bring myself to believe this was a "walk away".
Just a couple things that struck me as pecular. The only reason I can think of for a person to wipe away fingerprints is that of avoiding detection. A man who is going to walk away voluntarily has no reason to wipe his prints off his own vehicle. That simply makes no sense.
It also struck me as odd that he felt the need to "bug" his office phone line. I get that he felt his credibility was being called into question, but that just struck me as extreme. I had to wonder if maybe he was bugging his office line because he was afraid of some threat that he hadn't shared with anyone else. It also occured to me that maybe he had concerns of a collegue being involved in misconduct and bugged his office line in an effort to substantiate his suspicions. To be honest, I suspect we'll never know the truth behind the Dillards/CDI dispute.
Ultimately, I can't shake the feeling that the Dillards/CDI dispute had very little to do with Mr. Glasgow's disappearance. I've always believed that he went up to the mountain to "decompress" so to speak and met with a tragic accident. If only I could get past that fingerprint issue...
My thoughts and prayers are with Mr. Glasgow's loved ones. Every time I see something like this, I give my mom and dad a hug and thank the good lord that they are both still with me. I'm a very lucky person indeed.

Took a while to get on here... Great site. Forums are just the best thing..
I have watched this show on ID about 3 times. Considering I am from the "STREET" I can put myself in the minds of the people involved. Not a big deal, but I solved my RX-7 being stolen 15 years ago. It did not take long for me to put together, how, where, who maybe, etc stole it. Not a friend, but considering the time of night, the apparent car the found with my vin plate, no motor, and only 4 hours later I knew they had to tow the "fake car to the place it was found, and they did it at night, so they had to be close. Anyway, when I called the detective they were amazed I had put it all together.

Just like this case, things fall right into place. How is it that all of a sudden 7.1 million dollars disapeared ? Because it did, and this poor guy was going to take the hit on it. But he did not take it, you can tell, he is a great guy, the kind of person I wish I had been raised to be. But I grew up rough, got it together now. Anyway, were was I !

To me, once he was accused of stealing the money he was going to find the problem. Once he finally figured out who was stealing it, he met with them at the hotel along side the waffle house at which point he was taken care of...
I believe it was someone that worked for Dillards, actually has to be the person that fed him the numbers. John would not have registered at the hotel of course, but the guy, or his hit man would have, or could have had someone else do it. I would have to guess after watching all these show that bad people from the street are smart too and know what and where the cops will look at and for.... So john met the guy and then disapear, they took his car to the mountains to make it look like he did himself. Theywipe all "their" print off. He was then taken away from the area and killed.

I would check all the people registered for up to a week before the disapearance at the hotel. Airline records coming into the area of people that may be connected to the area where the dillards home office is or the acct. that gave John the numbers. That guys phone records, his wifes cell phone , bank record, and anyone close to him, etc. This guy was also able to finally get Dillard to do a reinstatement, dah, he had to for closure and to get the eye off of him...

I guess once in a while the perfect crime is pulled off. 7.1 million and knocking off the guy who was going to turn you in is a perfect crime if you can get away with it.

I am truely sorry about your brother. Hopefully the Police will figure it out. But looking in your area, thinking it was a suicide, or he left the area are just plain mistakes. Follow the money and you will find the killer. If nothing else, an independent audit of the statements, and all acct. should be done by the FBI.

Sorry again, and for mistyping, or spelling,...

Barry Colbert

summer_breeze
01-12-2012, 07:47 AM
http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext?nxd_id=498362

By: Lauren Trager, KARK 4 News
Updated: January 12, 2012

<snipped>

Inside the jail, Brawner told us what he's allegedly told his attorney and law enforcement: that around 11 o'clock, on the night Glasgow disappeared, he was contacted to come help bury Glasgow's body.

SuperKyle
01-12-2012, 03:00 PM
http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext?nxd_id=498362

By: Lauren Trager, KARK 4 News
Updated: January 12, 2012

<snipped>


After the Rachel Cooke fiasco, I make it a point to disbelieve these kinds of things. Why would this guy be "contacted" to get rid of the body?
I do hope though that until LE gets around to checking that place again that they are keeping an eye on it.

IF (HUGE WORD) this guy is telling the truth, the people who put Mr. Glasgow feet under will have a chance to move him.

SuperKyle
01-12-2012, 03:07 PM
http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext?nxd_id=498362

By: Lauren Trager, KARK 4 News
Updated: January 12, 2012

<snipped>

Actually, just found this. Looks like LE has been to the site and has found nothing. John's brother doesn't believe this guy's story either.
Unbelievable. This kind of thing should be a crime in its own right.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=129796.54928.141938

Mark 501
01-15-2012, 03:56 PM
Current news with regard to John Glasgow's disappearance.

http://www.fox16.com/news/local/story/AR-National-Guard-searches-field-after-Glasgow-tip/rnmTJ_8fBE6uQlFrZzOTBQ.cspx?rss=315

summer_breeze
01-16-2012, 10:10 AM
Thank you Mark 501 and Welcome to Websleuths!

summer_breeze
01-26-2012, 08:06 PM
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/192605/2/At-Noon-LR-police-search-field-for-missing-businessman

1:31 PM, Jan 26, 2012


ENGLAND, Ark. (KTHV) - Little Rock police are using radar equipment to search a field in rural Lonoke County for a missing man.

Penny_Lane
01-27-2012, 10:34 AM
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/192607/2/Jon-Brawner-the-man-claiming-to-have-helped-bury-John-Glasgow-failed-to-abduct-Jim-Daven-in-2009

snipped from todaysthv

summer_breeze
01-30-2012, 02:10 PM
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/193216/2/Police-return-to-field-in-Glasgow-case-

11:49 AM, Jan 30, 2012


ENGLAND, Ark. (KTHV) - Police are back out at a field in England, Ark. searching areas of interest in the case of a missing businessman.

Mark 501
01-30-2012, 10:13 PM
This I saw today...

http://www.fox16.com/news/local/story/Prosecutor-calls-Glasgow-search-info-misleading/AGvViynO50eXg90cnVgT7w.cspx

summer_breeze
02-01-2012, 06:05 PM
http://thecabin.net/news/local/2012-01-31/missing-body-not-found-after-prisoner-tip#.Tym2g8US2Ag

Posted: January 31, 2012 - 11:15pm
By Candie Beck

<snipped>

After searching an area in Lonoke County with advanced sonar equipment based on a tip from Brawner and not finding Glasgow’s remains, Roger says that he hopes Brawner receives a hefty prison sentence for his most recent conviction.

summer_breeze
01-28-2013, 11:30 AM
http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext?nxd_id=632332

By: KARK 4 News
Updated: January 28, 2013

Short article at link

OkGrace
04-10-2013, 12:14 AM
For whatever reason I cannot copy & paste. THV 11 is reporting a body found on pinnacle mountain the area where Mr Glasgows car was found . Doubt it is him body vs , no other info released.

EdinburghLass
04-10-2013, 06:27 AM
Arkansas State Police and Arkansas State Park Police are working together on an investigation at Pinnacle Mountain State Park.

Arkansas State Police public information officer Bill Sadler confirmed that a body was found on one of the trails at the park earlier Tuesday evening and said an investigation has been launched into the person's death.

Sadler would not comment further the finding, and the park is closed for the time being.

http://www.thv11.com/news/article/259247/2/Body-found-at-Pinnacle-Mountain-State-Park

OkGrace
04-10-2013, 12:23 PM
I had the wrong mountain...sorry! I get mixed up with Petiit Jean and Pinnacle! Sorry!

CircuitGuy
05-02-2013, 12:55 AM
To me, once he was accused of stealing the money he was going to find the problem. Once he finally figured out who was stealing it, he met with them at the hotel along side the waffle house at which point he was taken care of...
This is something the ID show failed to go into. They said that an independent forensic review showed the books were in order. If so, then what the nature of Dillards' CFO's complaint? Was he just out-and-out wrong? How did they get away with restating earnings and then blaming it on the contracting company? Their complaint was over-billing. Did overbilling on construction cause them to restate earnings?

I think you're onto a good point that maybe some accounting irregularities occurred at Dillards or the contractor and someone wanted to blame it on John. First they tried to tarnish his reputation; he considered leaving town. When that didn't work, they murdered him. That's possible.

But I do not believe the dogs were on a trail. I suspect the dog handler knew of the reports that he had been seen at that hotel and Waffle House, and she subconsciously guided the dog there. The dog wanted to please its master, and its master strongly wanted to confirm the sighting reports. His brother said he thought the dog handler's heart was in the right place, but he did not accept the results as valid.

This doesn't invalidate your point though. It took over two hours for the phone to reach the mountain. He could have had the meeting with the murderer anywhere in the area. The murderer could have asked him to meet secretly early in the morning to settle it once and for all. That would explain why he didn't sleep that night.

I hope police have looked into the accounting further than the ID show did. They must have interviewed the people who criticized John's integrity and may have threatened him. If the forensic audit was right and the books were pristine, what was up with the harsh attacks from Dillards?

T9D
07-18-2013, 03:51 AM
I guess I see it a different way.

John was stressed from day one. From day one he obviously had something to worry about. Most likely it would have taken time to find something if it was wrong. But right off the bat he was worried. Because he knew something was never right. If he found that someone else was stealing he would have told someone. And it seems he was stressed but not talking to his friends and family about any real details of it.

And then he leaves at 5:15 in the morning. Doesn't tell anyone where he's going.

He was going to meet someone else involved in it. You don't leave at an hour like that, without telling anyone where you're going and why for no reason. You do that to not be seen and so nobody knows what is going on. And if it's someone you suspect is stealing you would meet in public or have already told others. No way you'd agree to meet them at some random location at some really odd time.

As far as the books looking clean in a police audit, sure. They look clean by the numbers, but only someone in the company might know that the 3rd bathroom never existed, or the 5th register never arrived etc. And only John knows every detail of everything.

Anyway he showed up and they abducted and later killed him. Nobody is left now that truly knew every transaction and all the books like John. Nobody who can talk or make a deal with police or turn you in. If you're going to overcharge and steal money you need the CFO in on it to cook the books.

If he was innocent and found something he would have been telling people. And he wouldn't be going out on secret trips at 5:15 in the morning, or super stressed the second the audit starts.

Somebody grabbed him at the meeting they arranged together. Drove his car away from the scene, left it at the park, and wiped it down. No way John would leave it unlocked with his stuff in there if he's going for a walk.

J. J. in Phila
07-19-2013, 01:26 AM
Respectfully snipped.




Somebody grabbed him at the meeting they arranged together. Drove his car away from the scene, left it at the park, and wiped it down. No way John would leave it unlocked with his stuff in there if he's going for a walk.

Was the car wiped down? Were they able to get his prints from the interior.

T9D
07-22-2013, 08:38 PM
Respectfully snipped.



Was the car wiped down? Were they able to get his prints from the interior.

They couldn't get any prints from anyone. Not even him. So it appears that most likely it must have been wiped down.

J. J. in Phila
07-23-2013, 01:16 AM
They couldn't get any prints from anyone. Not even him. So it appears that most likely it must have been wiped down.

That would not necessarily indicate a wipe down. The prints could be partials and/or smeared.

margarita25
08-25-2013, 03:35 AM
I just saw this case last night on ID's "Disappeared" (Season 2 / "Unfinished Business").

I have some thoughts on the case based on what was presented on the show, but would like to read through the thread first.

margarita25
08-25-2013, 03:40 AM
They couldn't get any prints from anyone. Not even him. So it appears that most likely it must have been wiped down.


According to the show IIRC, the police officer attributed the inability to get prints possibly due to the textured surface of the car's interior?

margarita25
08-25-2013, 03:44 AM
Wow, 22 Guests here this late at night! That's unusual. The show on ID has obviously brought some publicity to John's case.

Hoping John's family gets some answers.

walkingdeadgirl
03-05-2014, 02:39 PM
Took a while to get on here... Great site. Forums are just the best thing..
I have watched this show on ID about 3 times. Considering I am from the "STREET" I can put myself in the minds of the people involved. Not a big deal, but I solved my RX-7 being stolen 15 years ago. It did not take long for me to put together, how, where, who maybe, etc stole it. Not a friend, but considering the time of night, the apparent car the found with my vin plate, no motor, and only 4 hours later I knew they had to tow the "fake car to the place it was found, and they did it at night, so they had to be close. Anyway, when I called the detective they were amazed I had put it all together.

Just like this case, things fall right into place. How is it that all of a sudden 7.1 million dollars disapeared ? Because it did, and this poor guy was going to take the hit on it. But he did not take it, you can tell, he is a great guy, the kind of person I wish I had been raised to be. But I grew up rough, got it together now. Anyway, were was I !

To me, once he was accused of stealing the money he was going to find the problem. Once he finally figured out who was stealing it, he met with them at the hotel along side the waffle house at which point he was taken care of...
I believe it was someone that worked for Dillards, actually has to be the person that fed him the numbers. John would not have registered at the hotel of course, but the guy, or his hit man would have, or could have had someone else do it. I would have to guess after watching all these show that bad people from the street are smart too and know what and where the cops will look at and for.... So john met the guy and then disapear, they took his car to the mountains to make it look like he did himself. Theywipe all "their" print off. He was then taken away from the area and killed.

I would check all the people registered for up to a week before the disapearance at the hotel. Airline records coming into the area of people that may be connected to the area where the dillards home office is or the acct. that gave John the numbers. That guys phone records, his wifes cell phone , bank record, and anyone close to him, etc. This guy was also able to finally get Dillard to do a reinstatement, dah, he had to for closure and to get the eye off of him...

I guess once in a while the perfect crime is pulled off. 7.1 million and knocking off the guy who was going to turn you in is a perfect crime if you can get away with it.

I am truely sorry about your brother. Hopefully the Police will figure it out. But looking in your area, thinking it was a suicide, or he left the area are just plain mistakes. Follow the money and you will find the killer. If nothing else, an independent audit of the statements, and all acct. should be done by the FBI.

Sorry again, and for mistyping, or spelling,...

Barry Colbert

As chaotic as your mind is, this is what I also think happened, though I think they met at the Awful Waffle first, then went over to the motel. The placement of his car and what was left in it was staging to make people think exactly what some did think...that John went to walk to "clear his mind" and jumped or fell. Red herrings and misdirection all the way, IMHO. He was never up there. Sadly, I think the poor man was murdered by then, and being transported in a different direction while attention was focused there.

shaneirish
04-25-2014, 03:10 PM
If I remember correctly, CCTV footage was examined from the main route from John's house to where his car was discovered and his vehicle definitely didn't use that road - which leads me to wonder if he met someone elsewhere, and met a grizzly end, leaving the perp to drive his car along a quieter route out of the way of CCTV and detection.

It's possible that John never made it to the mountain at all - and that's the scenario I'm more likely to agree with. This would make sense with the dogs not picking up John's scent where his car was.

I wouldn't rule out this being a professional hit - I wouldn't be surprised if John was being closely watched (and he may even have realised this), and someone followed him when he left the house to work.

I think two or more people would have to be involved in this disappearance. Whoever left John's car at the top of the mountain would need a mode of transport after dropping the car off. So it's likely that one person committed the 'act' while the other provided an escape route - this person could be the resident of the motel that dogs tracked. I find it hard to believe that there'd be no CCTV footage of visitors here - surely you'd have to get your keys and sign in via reception? And in this day and age you'd imagine all businesses would have CCTV to cover their backs in case anything untoward happened.

My theory is that because those responsible wanted John's disappearance to look like he just walked off - they'd have wanted to conceal his body somewhere where it's not likely to be found. Are there any unused mineshafts in the area? Were any buildings under construction at the time in the area where a body could have been hidden and buried?

If I also remember correctly John had been threatened by someone at Dillard's over the phone? Perhaps this wasn't an empty threat.

Sadly I don't think John is with us any longer but I also refuse to believe that he just wondered off and had an accident that resulted in his death or committed suicide. John seems like the kind of person who, even if he was suicidal, wouldn't want to put his family through the torture of never knowing what happened to him.

Someone definitely knows what happened to John and if they had a decent bone in their body, they'd start talking so his family and friends can finally learn the answers they deserve.

CircuitGuy
10-02-2014, 07:36 PM
Is the following summary true?

1987 – CDI is founded with the sole purpose of serving one customer (http://www.cdicon.com/about-us)- Dillards.

At some point Dillard’s makes an investment in CDI. They give CDI money to grow their business. In exchange Dillard’s gets 50% ownership. Now Dillard’s, as their half owner and main customer, can call the shots with them, but still have them operate outside their corporate structure.

The officers at this point each own several percent of the business. This share is useless b/c it’s illiquid. No one wants to buys 10% of a small business with one main customer. The use in these small shares is to incentivize the management team to grow the company.

They succeed. They build multiple Dillards and get other customers. They’re very profitable. They value on paper grows.

2007 – William Clark dies. His family inherits his shares.

Later 2007 – Dillards goes to acquire the rest of the shares. The executive team’s illiquid shares are about to become with worth up to a few million dollars. The executive team is about to get a windfall.

In doing its due diligence, Dillard’s accounting realizes CDI accounting has been aggressive. The ID show seems to suggest it’s debatable among accounting experts whether CDI was doing Enron-like tricks to make their numbers look good or whether Dillard’s was overly-conservative. This is understandable b/c Dillard’s probably invested in CDI in the beginning b/c it was more nimble and less stodgy and conservative. But it really comes to a head with Dillard’s accounting calling Mr. Glasgow an out-and-out thief. Dillard’s accounting tells him you’re basically and employee of Dillard’s who’s been stealing from your boss. Mr. Glasgow says you’re not our boss; you’re a stodgy company contracting with an aggressive small company you happen to own. It gets nastier from there.

Jan 28, 2008 – Mr. Glasgow mysteriously goes missing.

Early 2008 – With Glasgow gone, somehow Dillard’s gets over its problems. Maybe it was one bad apple who’s not with us anymore.

Aug 2008 (7 mo later) – The acquisition goes through (http://www.fashionnewspaper.com/articles/612/1/Dillard039s-Inc-Announces-Completion-of-Acquisition-of-CDI-Contractors-LLC/Page1.html). The management team all gets their money. Glasgow’s wife probably inherited his shares and received money.

John Glasgow’s death helped solve everyone’s problems. He was at the center of accusations that he was aggressively refuting. When he disappeared and couldn’t carry on refuting them, the acquisition went through. All his executive colleagues and his wife all benefit.

This does not say who did it. One or more the people standing to gain may have done it. He may have felt horrible guilt. He may have said he was living to build this thing that would provide for his family and help employees, vendors, and customers, and how he messed it up and was wroth more to everyone dead than alive. He could have gone into hiding, but I would expect him to resurface once the acquisition went through.

My guess is one of the shareholders got angry with him. He thought, you’re a thief and deserve to die. And unlike other crimes, your dying actually undoes the damage. This shareholder threatened him and arranged a meeting. Glasgow knew the guy might get violent, might publically condemn him, sue him, make a complaint against his CPA license, and turn him in to law enforcement. John probably didn’t think he would go so far as to commit premeditated murder.

This is just a wild guess. The same factors could have led to suicide. Also, I’m not sure his death is what made the acquisition go through. It’s odd, though, that it was in peril while was alight working his tail off to see it through, and then it went through months after he died.

OkGrace
10-02-2014, 07:49 PM
Excellent post.

snowleopard
10-14-2014, 01:22 AM
Is the following summary true?

1987 – CDI is founded with the sole purpose of serving one customer (http://www.cdicon.com/about-us)- Dillards.

At some point Dillard’s makes an investment in CDI. They give CDI money to grow their business. In exchange Dillard’s gets 50% ownership. Now Dillard’s, as their half owner and main customer, can call the shots with them, but still have them operate outside their corporate structure.

The officers at this point each own several percent of the business. This share is useless b/c it’s illiquid. No one wants to buys 10% of a small business with one main customer. The use in these small shares is to incentivize the management team to grow the company.

They succeed. They build multiple Dillards and get other customers. They’re very profitable. They value on paper grows.

2007 – William Clark dies. His family inherits his shares.

Later 2007 – Dillards goes to acquire the rest of the shares. The executive team’s illiquid shares are about to become with worth up to a few million dollars. The executive team is about to get a windfall.

In doing its due diligence, Dillard’s accounting realizes CDI accounting has been aggressive. The ID show seems to suggest it’s debatable among accounting experts whether CDI was doing Enron-like tricks to make their numbers look good or whether Dillard’s was overly-conservative. This is understandable b/c Dillard’s probably invested in CDI in the beginning b/c it was more nimble and less stodgy and conservative. But it really comes to a head with Dillard’s accounting calling Mr. Glasgow an out-and-out thief. Dillard’s accounting tells him you’re basically and employee of Dillard’s who’s been stealing from your boss. Mr. Glasgow says you’re not our boss; you’re a stodgy company contracting with an aggressive small company you happen to own. It gets nastier from there.

Jan 28, 2008 – Mr. Glasgow mysteriously goes missing.

Early 2008 – With Glasgow gone, somehow Dillard’s gets over its problems. Maybe it was one bad apple who’s not with us anymore.

Aug 2008 (7 mo later) – The acquisition goes through (http://www.fashionnewspaper.com/articles/612/1/Dillard039s-Inc-Announces-Completion-of-Acquisition-of-CDI-Contractors-LLC/Page1.html). The management team all gets their money. Glasgow’s wife probably inherited his shares and received money.

John Glasgow’s death helped solve everyone’s problems. He was at the center of accusations that he was aggressively refuting. When he disappeared and couldn’t carry on refuting them, the acquisition went through. All his executive colleagues and his wife all benefit.

This does not say who did it. One or more the people standing to gain may have done it. He may have felt horrible guilt. He may have said he was living to build this thing that would provide for his family and help employees, vendors, and customers, and how he messed it up and was wroth more to everyone dead than alive. He could have gone into hiding, but I would expect him to resurface once the acquisition went through.

My guess is one of the shareholders got angry with him. He thought, you’re a thief and deserve to die. And unlike other crimes, your dying actually undoes the damage. This shareholder threatened him and arranged a meeting. Glasgow knew the guy might get violent, might publically condemn him, sue him, make a complaint against his CPA license, and turn him in to law enforcement. John probably didn’t think he would go so far as to commit premeditated murder.

This is just a wild guess. The same factors could have led to suicide. Also, I’m not sure his death is what made the acquisition go through. It’s odd, though, that it was in peril while was alight working his tail off to see it through, and then it went through months after he died.

I'm not sure exactly what happened to JG, but I don't think he was doing anything crooked. Accounting for a construction business is fairly straight forward and Dillards was auditing CDI, and ultimately found nothing to blame on Glasgow. They announced a shortfall in earnings around the time of his disappearance, claiming CDI had overcharged Dillards. Ultimately Dillards had to admit they had under-recorded the amount they were paying to CDI to build stores and thus, over reported their own earnings. http://upstart.bizjournals.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing.html?page=all Virtually everyone vouches for Glasgows honesty, except Dillards Freeman. He even bugged his own phone because of threat, a crazy thing to do if you're guilty and receiving accusatory phone calls. To me it seems Dillards wanted to blame CDI for its own mismanagement. Dillards is a public company, and, I believe, CDI is (was) not. So they probably thought they could intimidate JG into taking the heat, saving the stock price of the public Dillards and shifting the burden to CDI, which loses no public value in doing so. Dillards sending out a hit man to silence JG seems a bit Hollywood, but stranger things have happened.

Skigirl
10-14-2014, 04:20 PM
I'm not sure exactly what happened to JG, but I don't think he was doing anything crooked. Accounting for a construction business is fairly straight forward and Dillards was auditing CDI, and ultimately found nothing to blame on Glasgow. They announced a shortfall in earnings around the time of his disappearance, claiming CDI had overcharged Dillards. Ultimately Dillards had to admit they had under-recorded the amount they were paying to CDI to build stores and thus, over reported their own earnings. http://upstart.bizjournals.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing.html?page=all Virtually everyone vouches for Glasgows honesty, except Dillards Freeman. He even bugged his own phone because of threat, a crazy thing to do if you're guilty and receiving accusatory phone calls. To me it seems Dillards wanted to blame CDI for its own mismanagement. Dillards is a public company, and, I believe, CDI is (was) not. So they probably thought they could intimidate JG into taking the heat, saving the stock price of the public Dillards and shifting the burden to CDI, which loses no public value in doing so. Dillards sending out a hit man to silence JG seems a bit Hollywood, but stranger things have happened.

Thank you - this sums up the situation as I understand it.

Dillard's was trying to pressure CDI into saying that they had made an accounting error because Dillard's was going to have to restate their earnings (very bad), which was going to weaken their stock price and potentially allow investors a big enough stake in the company to take control of it and rid the board and executive team of Dillard family members. Investors at that time were very vocal about their perception that Dillard's was poorly managed and that corporate governance was weak.

The best way to avoid being acquired is to have a strong stock price.

Here are some links:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB122878841695490419
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/44773/updated-investor-group-questions-dillards-commitment-to-shareholders?page=all
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/barington-capital-group-questions-the-commitment-of-dillards-to-the-companys-public-stockholders-58629562.html
http://www3.gmiratings.com/home/2013/01/its-nice-to-be-a-dillard-at-dillards/
http://upstart.bizjournals.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing.html?page=all
http://nypost.com/2008/12/09/dillards-row-worsens/

CircuitGuy
10-17-2014, 07:53 AM
Virtually everyone vouches for Glasgows honesty, except Dillards Freeman. He even bugged his own phone because of threat, a crazy thing to do if you're guilty and receiving accusatory phone calls. To me it seems Dillards wanted to blame CDI for its own mismanagement. Dillards is a public company, and, I believe, CDI is (was) not. So they probably thought they could intimidate JG into taking the heat, saving the stock price of the public Dillards and shifting the burden to CDI, which loses no public value in doing so. Dillards sending out a hit man to silence JG seems a bit Hollywood, but stranger things have happened.
I wonder how JG being out of the way helped them blame CDI. They still acquired CDI. I wonder if they got a better price b/c CDI's CFO was gone, and everyone was shocked. Or was it an agreement between someone at Dillards and someone at CDI that if JG died, they'd both blame him to save face with Dillards shareholders and then acquire CDI under the terms they would have agreed to anyone?

It sure looks like someone at Dillards (I doubt all of Dillards senior management conspired) may have murdered him. But it seems extreme and likely to backfire. In this scenario, the person at Dillards did some crooked accounting. He/she accuses JG of crooked accounting to cover it up. That makes sense so far. Then JG defends his accounting. Killing him seems to put the corrupt Dillards manager into more a law enforcement spotlight than he was before.

Maybe JG had proof positive that the Dillards manager/accountant had done some highly illegal accounting, maybe embezzlement that could carry a prison sentence. The crook agreed to meet JG in private to discuss it, maybe offering to capitulate and help JG and CDI by resigning but without going to jail. Instead the crook murdered JG at the meeting. Maybe JG told him at the meeting after all the criticism they'd subjected JG to, he wasn't going to do a backroom deal to sweep the crimes under the rug. The reason this scheme worked (in this guess) is JG was the only one with the proof of crooked accounting and the motive to bring it to LE. Most other people involved either didn't have proof of crooked Dillards accounting or didn't care b/c they were getting good money as Dillards managers or as owners of CDI about to be acquired. Kill JG, and the problem goes away.

Skigirl
10-17-2014, 03:27 PM
I wonder how JG being out of the way helped them blame CDI. They still acquired CDI. I wonder if they got a better price b/c CDI's CFO was gone, and everyone was shocked. Or was it an agreement between someone at Dillards and someone at CDI that if JG died, they'd both blame him to save face with Dillards shareholders and then acquire CDI under the terms they would have agreed to anyone?

It sure looks like someone at Dillards (I doubt all of Dillards senior management conspired) may have murdered him. But it seems extreme and likely to backfire. In this scenario, the person at Dillards did some crooked accounting. He/she accuses JG of crooked accounting to cover it up. That makes sense so far. Then JG defends his accounting. Killing him seems to put the corrupt Dillards manager into more a law enforcement spotlight than he was before.

Maybe JG had proof positive that the Dillards manager/accountant had done some highly illegal accounting, maybe embezzlement that could carry a prison sentence. The crook agreed to meet JG in private to discuss it, maybe offering to capitulate and help JG and CDI by resigning but without going to jail. Instead the crook murdered JG at the meeting. Maybe JG told him at the meeting after all the criticism they'd subjected JG to, he wasn't going to do a backroom deal to sweep the crimes under the rug. The reason this scheme worked (in this guess) is JG was the only one with the proof of crooked accounting and the motive to bring it to LE. Most other people involved either didn't have proof of crooked Dillards accounting or didn't care b/c they were getting good money as Dillards managers or as owners of CDI about to be acquired. Kill JG, and the problem goes away.

This article from 2011 is very interesting: http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/33351/dillards-fires-pwc-after-accounting-dispute-hires-kpmg-as-auditor

"Dillard's Inc. of Little Rock has fired its auditor, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP, over a dispute involving the retailer's plan to move its real estate into a subsidiary....Dillard's told the Securities & Exchange Commission last week that the two companies couldn't agree on when the tax benefit related to its new real estate investment trust should be recognized. The Internal Revenue Service agreed with Dillard's, which has since hired KPMG LLP....Dillard's had originally hired PWC in May 2009 after using Deloitte & Touche LLP for more than 20 years..."


I used to work for a Fortune 500 company and our executive team was not happy with our accounting firm because they wouldn't allow some of the same practices our competitor was using that were accepted by the same accounting firm, but a different city's office. There was talk of firing the firm, but people were too worried that it might be taken the wrong way. Dillard's has been through THREE of the four major accounting firms now. First, they fired Deloitte in 2009 (presumably after having to restate their earnings), then they fired PWC in 2011, and now they are with KPMG. I've never heard of any public company running through so many auditors in such a short period of time.

JusticeWillBeServed
03-08-2015, 07:11 AM
Just saw his Disappeared episode. I really don't know what to think. If he was meeting someone, why would he write down the codes and passwords to various things? Multiple scenarios sound plausible, unfortunately most of them work under the assumption that he is deceased.

http://www.fox16.com/story/d/story/the-missing-part-4-john-glasgow/62830/9ntAMTPW8Emc9sIeZSc5yw

machiado
03-12-2015, 10:02 AM
http://www.thv11.com/story/news/2015/03/11/human-remains-found-on-petit-jean-mountain/70188676/

Human remains have been found on Petit Jean mountain - John Glasgow is the only missing person known to have been in this area at the time of his disappearance.

GrilledCheezy
03-12-2015, 11:09 AM
It's got to be him. Wow.

Sunrisenow
03-12-2015, 02:42 PM
Sheriff Confirms Petit Jean Remains Are Those Of John Glasgow

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/103932/sheriff-confirms-petit-jean-remains-are-those-of-john-glasgow

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 03:57 PM
Fox16.com will stream a news conference with the family of missing Little Rock businessman John Glasgow at 4 p.m.
http://www.fox16.com/home

JusticeWillBeServed
03-12-2015, 04:02 PM
Wow, he was there the whole time.

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:04 PM
Greg Yarbrough @GregYarbrough

Roger Glasgow says "we have always suspected that foul play was invovled." #ARNews

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:06 PM
http://www.fox16.com/live

Skull found, other bones scattered. Bringing in metal detectors to look for rings any metal. No trauma to skull. Found at base of cliff,

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:07 PM
Greg Yarbrough @GregYarbrough

Roger Glasgow "The remains consisted of a skull and had not been found and were probably scattered." #ARNews

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:08 PM
Greg Yarbrough @GregYarbrough

Roger Glasgow "There was no evidence of trauma to the skull. He was found at the base of a cliff. It could have been an accident" #ARNews

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:09 PM
Greg Yarbrough @GregYarbrough

"These past 7 years we've lived with this tragedy. Time has worn off some of the raw edges but this event has kinda reopened the wounds."

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:12 PM
Dental records confirmed it was John

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:13 PM
Glasgow feels it was foul play, but it will be up to LEO, to figure that part out. He doesn't know anything.

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:15 PM
Question from media if JG was a hiker at Petit Jean, liked to hike but doesn't think he frequented the area.

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:15 PM
Ken Buffa @KenBuffa

Bones were not found underground they were found in the open. #arnews pic.twitter.com/G6AG3EXYNJ

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:17 PM
Kevin Kelly @kkelly16

Here's a clip of Roger Glasgow talking about both relief and sadness about brother's remains being found. https://www.facebook.com/FOX16HD #ARNews

arkansasmimi
03-12-2015, 05:22 PM
Sorry if this is a dup post. This is the document filed with information, that the John Glasgow wife used to have him declared dead, in 2011 https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/imaging/IMAGES/DMS/ck_image.present?DMS_ID=60100022149008

02/02/2011
04:15 PM PETITION
Entry: PETITION FOR DECLARATION OF DEATH SUBM BY NATE COULTER
https://caseinfo.aoc.arkansas.gov/cconnect/PROD/public/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=60PR-08-1220&begin_date=&end_date=

J. J. in Phila
03-13-2015, 01:27 AM
If JG was familiar with the area enough to know where there was a bluff, it could be suicide. If not, accident or murder.

arkansasmimi
03-13-2015, 09:05 PM
If JG was familiar with the area enough to know where there was a bluff, it could be suicide. If not, accident or murder.

I agree. But makes me wonder if his skull was intact, as his brother stated in the news conf, one would think it would show some trauma from the fall. But so many possibilities.. could have landed on something sharp, heart attack, been pushed, slipped again many possibilities... Hoping they are able to find out something. The way the car was found it what makes it all strange to me. And he was located in an area they said was approx a mile away from where car was found. I suppose it possibility animal could have dragged but, doubtful.

CircuitGuy
03-14-2015, 10:48 AM
Just saw his Disappeared episode. I really don't know what to think. If he was meeting someone, why would he write down the codes and passwords to various things? Multiple scenarios sound plausible, unfortunately most of them work under the assumption that he is deceased.
I thought I heard the passwords were in the middle of a notepad that he'd been using for months, so it wasn't clear he wrote them down immediately before his disappearance.

RSully94
03-14-2015, 05:19 PM
It's sad they finally found him. But I'm glad his family can now have some closure in the sense that they know whether he is dead or alive.

cluciano63
03-14-2015, 05:54 PM
I am doubtful about foul play. I guess the family might prefer to think that, over suicide, but may never know for sure. When I watched the show, I got a definite feeling of suicide but Jmo.

Redux
03-15-2015, 06:59 PM
http://www.thv11.com/story/news/2015/03/11/human-remains-found-on-petit-jean-mountain/70188676/

Human remains have been found on Petit Jean mountain - John Glasgow is the only missing person known to have been in this area at the time of his disappearance.


Arkansas Business reported at the time of his disappearance that Glasgow's wife said her husband was stressed at work, but that he never made statements about harming himself. She reportedly told police when he disappeared that a .22 rifle was missing from their home.

Huh, I don't remember seeing that detail before, though I could be mistaken.

JusticeWillBeServed
03-15-2015, 10:11 PM
I thought I heard the passwords were in the middle of a notepad that he'd been using for months, so it wasn't clear he wrote them down immediately before his disappearance.

The impression I got from the show was that they were left open for his wife to find. I don't know if he had written them down that same night he left. She already knew all the codes though so I don't know why they were written down. Also, she said there was more money in the safe than there should have been.

jstkiddn
03-16-2015, 11:03 AM
Huh, I don't remember seeing that detail before, though I could be mistaken.

Regarding the gun: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they eventually find the gun in a closet? At some point, he had moved it to another location within the house, so at first they thought it was missing, but that turned out to be false.

I don't think he took the gun. Now, I'm not saying he didn't have *another* gun, but the .22 in question...I'm almost positive that was found later at the house.

OkieGranny
03-17-2015, 12:38 AM
http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/story/authorities-searching-hoping-for-additional-remain/15595/RZ3R2SVAtUWzc8UD-Ml9Qw


On Monday, authorities said they have a new starting point in the search as they try to find the rest of the remains...

The Park closed off parts of the mountain as two dozen park rangers, along with several local and state agencies, search specific areas... they're concentrating on a remote area where the skull was discovered near the Red Bluff Drive area of the park...

Searchers wrapped up around 3 p.m. Monday. They plan on resuming Tuesday at 7:30 a.m.

arkansasmimi
03-17-2015, 12:54 AM
Regarding the gun: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they eventually find the gun in a closet? At some point, he had moved it to another location within the house, so at first they thought it was missing, but that turned out to be false.

I don't think he took the gun. Now, I'm not saying he didn't have *another* gun, but the .22 in question...I'm almost positive that was found later at the house.
I started at the first of this thread and reread the day of the discovery of the remains. One of the articles in these first 4 pages, stated iirc it was a family heirloom, old gun and was located in an closet or chest shortly after they reported it missing.

arkansasmimi
03-17-2015, 01:04 AM
Bless their hearts!!

ONLY ON 7: Hiker that found Glasgow remains speaks out http://www.katv.com/story/28493480/only-on-7-hiker-that-found-glasgow-remains-speaks-out (with video of intervies)

Posted: Mar 13, 2015 9:37 PM CDT
Updated: Mar 13, 2015 9:37 PM CDT
By Matt Mershon, Reporter

RUSSELLVILLE (KATV) - It's given the Glasgow family some closure after seven years – John Glasgow's remains were finally recovered no more than a mile from where his car was found on Petit Jean Mountain back in 2008. But his remains may never have been found had it not been for two hikers looking for an adventure.
On Thursday, Arkansas State Park employees blocked the access point to where two juniors in college found a skull which DNA testing a day later proved to be that of Little Rock businessman John Glasgow.

Had Marshall Armour, a student at Arkansas Tech University and Lance Ward, a student at the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville not skipped class to go hiking on Wednesday – Glasgow would still be considered a missing person.



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arkansasmimi
03-17-2015, 01:06 AM
I would hope they would receive the reward, depending if it were still active. JMHO

J. J. in Phila
03-17-2015, 03:11 AM
If there wasn't a path nearby, and if the bones were not moved by animals, accident/suicide is more likely. It is difficult enough to move a body, but trying to move it through woods with no path would be worse.

GrilledCheezy
03-17-2015, 11:29 AM
Odd that the tracking dogs didn't pick up his scent if he walked into the woods of his own volition.

snowleopard
03-17-2015, 11:51 AM
Hi Grilled, I was thinking similarly. I remembered they interviewed a guy who had worked with the dogs (I think) in the Disappeared episode an he said something to the effect that if John had been on the Mountain, the dogs would have indicated. I also wonder about the lack of finger prints. The episode said that the car had none at all. I don't know enough about finger printing to be sure, but it would seem that a car JG used everyday would at least have some smudged prints. Everything else about the case says suicide to me, especially the location of the body, but the lack of scent and prints makes me wonder.....

justagirl247
03-17-2015, 12:28 PM
i am glad he has been found so that ppl can have clouser but i really feel like there is more to it then him just not having been found all this time

jstkiddn
03-17-2015, 05:52 PM
I watched the show for the first time this morning via Amazon streaming. Of course, we know more now than when the show was made, therefore I was able to watch it with the knowledge that he was in fact on the mountain.

I just can't help but think it was suicide. Just the way they found all his work items neatly placed all together, as if to say "Here! Take your stuff. I don't need it any longer." The officer on the show said that it is not unusual to not find usable fingerprints inside a car because the surfaces are not conducive to holding on to a print. He said something about the surfaces being too rough. IIRC, they used the term "usable prints"....not that they didn't find anything at all. They just didn't find any they could use.

No matter what he found or anyone else found during the audits, I sure hate to think that the poor man may have thought that was the only way out, but as the saying goes, sometimes still waters run very deep and sometimes it's hard to really know what's down in the depths of their psyche.

Did I understand correctly that Dillard's had to restate their earnings and it was due (at least in part) to the way that CDI was doing the accounting? I really don't get the feeling that it was anything intentionally devious on his part, but maybe he made some really, really big mistake and the knowledge of that just crushed him? The show said he worked Saturday and Sunday before the disappearance, so who knows what he discovered.

I'm not sure what to make of the dogs, other than I assume that sometimes they can probably be mistaken. Maybe weather/wind patterns played a part? They described scent as pooling like a fog. I seem to remember them saying it was quite blustery on the mountain in the days following, which I take as meaning windy. Could the wind have literally blown away some of the scent? Not to mention that during the grid search, the dogs still failed to pick up his scent. I'm not sure what part of the mountain they searched, but it sounded fairly thorough. We now know he was there.....but the dogs still didn't smell him, so that tends to make me wonder about their usefulness around the car area.

I think the dogs that found his scent at the convenience store, motel and Waffle House were just flat wrong.

If it were foul play, one would think that he would have had to have been taken against his will and literally shoved off a cliff, because there is no way someone was going to be able to lug a deceased person down those trails into the woods. That is VERY rough terrain! It just doesn't seem likely that someone would have taken him all the way up to Petit Jean to dispose of him, if for no other reason than there is really only one way in and out and there are lots of tourists and hikers around. It would have been very risky.

I'm glad the family has at least a few answers, but it seems like this could be one of those situations where the answer just leaves more questions. Maybe the new searches will turn up something that will give them some answers, but sadly, they may never know for sure.

They are certainly in my thoughts and prayers. It was very obvious that they loved him and I know they must feel his loss deeply. Very sad.

jstkiddn
03-17-2015, 06:57 PM
http://http://www.thv11.com/story/news/local/2015/03/17/more-skeletal-remains-clothing-id-found-belonging-to-john-glasgow/24928023/

More remains found this morning, plus clothing and wallet.

J. J. in Phila
03-18-2015, 12:49 AM
Respectfully snipped.




No matter what he found or anyone else found during the audits, I sure hate to think that the poor man may have thought that was the only way out, but as the saying goes, sometimes still waters run very deep and sometimes it's hard to really know what's down in the depths of their psyche.


The auditors found nothing remiss. JG did nothing wrong in that regard.




I'm not sure what to make of the dogs, other than I assume that sometimes they can probably be mistaken. Maybe weather/wind patterns played a part? They described scent as pooling like a fog. I seem to remember them saying it was quite blustery on the mountain in the days following, which I take as meaning windy. Could the wind have literally blown away some of the scent? Not to mention that during the grid search, the dogs still failed to pick up his scent. I'm not sure what part of the mountain they searched, but it sounded fairly thorough. We now know he was there.....but the dogs still didn't smell him, so that tends to make me wonder about their usefulness around the car area.


A tornado hit the immediate area before the dogs got there. That could eliminate the scent.



I think the dogs that found his scent at the convenience store, motel and Waffle House were just flat wrong.

He possibly could have been there earlier as well.




If it were foul play, one would think that he would have had to have been taken against his will and literally shoved off a cliff, because there is no way someone was going to be able to lug a deceased person down those trails into the woods. That is VERY rough terrain! It just doesn't seem likely that someone would have taken him all the way up to Petit Jean to dispose of him, if for no other reason than there is really only one way in and out and there are lots of tourists and hikers around. It would have been very risky.

Near a trail would be possible, but away from one, I have to agree. I would not rule out being marched to a location and killed, though a push off a cliff might not be fatal and the murderer would have to know the was a cliff there.

As for suicide, one possibility would be hanging. The body would decompose and fall, the jaw would be detached
and the skull would roll. It will be important to see in the rest of the remains are in the area.

It is very sad, but at least the family has closure. :(

That was a very good post, BTW.

Redux
03-18-2015, 10:15 AM
Regarding the gun: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they eventually find the gun in a closet? At some point, he had moved it to another location within the house, so at first they thought it was missing, but that turned out to be false.

I don't think he took the gun. Now, I'm not saying he didn't have *another* gun, but the .22 in question...I'm almost positive that was found later at the house.


I started at the first of this thread and reread the day of the discovery of the remains. One of the articles in these first 4 pages, stated iirc it was a family heirloom, old gun and was located in an closet or chest shortly after they reported it missing.

Well that would have been an important detail for them to get right in the follow up story as it certainly makes suicide seem a possibility. I suppose reporters are only human, they make mistakes too, but it makes me wonder how many times other things are misreported or not followed up on.

Even with the gun accounted for, I'm leaning towards suicide though I think foul play is a very slight possibility.

los2188
03-18-2015, 10:49 AM
I wonder whether or not LE knows more. When I saw the Disappeared episode that he was featured in so many years ago, my initial thought was suicide. Maybe that supposed "questionable" business relationship had a little more to it than reported, or maybe he really thought that it would ruin him, even though he did nothing wrong.

Another Disappeared subject found.....sigh.

Galbin
03-18-2015, 02:14 PM
I just watched John's Disappeared show today for like the fifth time. I then googled his name, as I do after watching each show. Shocked that he has been found but so glad for the family too. I still wonder why there were no scent trails leading away from his car though.

MrsPC
03-18-2015, 07:40 PM
latest news on John Glasgow states bulk of his remains found along with his wallet and the sheriff stated it was "absolutely not" a criminal investigation. no mention if his vehicle keys were located or not.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/mar/18/body-found-of-lr-exec-missing-since-08-/?f=news-arkansas

When asked if this case was now a criminal one, Smith replied, "Absolutely not."

"This has always been conducted as a missing person case. The investigation is now done," Smith said. "I'm definitely comfortable with it being a missing person found and case closed."

Galbin
03-18-2015, 08:17 PM
latest news on John Glasgow states bulk of his remains found along with his wallet and the sheriff stated it was "absolutely not" a criminal investigation. no mention if his vehicle keys were located or not.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/mar/18/body-found-of-lr-exec-missing-since-08-/?f=news-arkansas

When asked if this case was now a criminal one, Smith replied, "Absolutely not."

"This has always been conducted as a missing person case. The investigation is now done," Smith said. "I'm definitely comfortable with it being a missing person found and case closed."

Wow. While I am happy for him that he thinks it's all done and dusted, his family and many of us strongly disagree with his statements. There is way too much dodgy stuff going on here, and it needs to be explored properly before closing the case. Yes, suicide is a possibility, but there are other aspects of the case that suggest homicide.

RIP, John Glasgow. You were loved by a lot of people when you were on this earth.

MrsPC
03-18-2015, 09:08 PM
Wow. While I am happy for him that he thinks it's all done and dusted, his family and many of us strongly disagree with his statements. There is way too much dodgy stuff going on here, and it needs to be explored properly before closing the case. Yes, suicide is a possibility, but there are other aspects of the case that suggest homicide.

RIP, John Glasgow. You were loved by a lot of people when you were on this earth.

I don't see how the sheriff can make this declaration before the medical examiner has even tried to determine a cause of death either. Very strange.

EdinburghLass
03-18-2015, 10:43 PM
I guess we don't know exactly what was found with the remains or how they were found. For example, if John did complete suicide, perhaps there was evidence of his method found? Or even a note in his wallet that may have survived the elements? I would suspect that for the police to say it's absolutely not a criminal case, they must have some fairly strong evidence.

arkansasmimi
03-18-2015, 11:37 PM
Feels awful to type this, but wouldn't there have been buzzards or whatever? or the smell? But possibly if it isn't well traveled, just a lot of hmmm thoughts and questions. Same thoughts and questions no matter foul play or not.

Thoughts and prayers for family and friends

J. J. in Phila
03-18-2015, 11:56 PM
I don't see how the sheriff can make this declaration before the medical examiner has even tried to determine a cause of death either. Very strange.


I looked at the quote. It looks like the missing person part of the case was closed, but the pathologist will have to determine cause of death.

Sutton
03-19-2015, 05:12 AM
John Glasgow was one of the more mysterious cases covered on Disappeared. I believe his disappearance was directly related to his workplace troubles. I do not understand why an honest, innocent man would commit suicide. There is no indication John was embezzling money or using company finds inappropriately. There is no indication he was using questionable accounting methods or that he'd made a mistake. So why would he commit suicide?
On the other hand, what else could have happened: An accident, death or injury due to natural causes, a secret new life, or foul play? Because this speculation is based on the fact his job problems caused his disappearance, I am not going to cover an accident or natural causes (but I guess they are a remote possibility). Leaving to start a new life seems similar to suicide--why do it if you are innocent? Foul play seems a bit far-fetched, just because of the logistics and total lack of supporting evidence.
But it clearly had to be one of these reasons because he did disappear.
I looked back at articles posted on the first pages of this thread to see if I could get a better understanding of his problems at work.
I am going to break this up into several posts because it is quite long, so hang on...

Sutton
03-19-2015, 05:48 AM
Here is some background on CDI and Dillard's
Bill Dillard II was CEO of Dillard's. He and his best friend, Bill Clark created Clark-Dillard Inc (CDI). CDI was a construction company that was going to build new stores for Dillard's. The Dillard's corporation owned half of CDI, and Bill Clark owned the other half. Bill Clark was the CEO.
Instead of hiring an outside construction company and being charged a high fee, Dillard's would hire CDI and get a discount. In return, CDI would get all of Dillard's business (CDI had other clients).
Dillard's is a public company--anyone can purchase shares. Dillard's has to file annual financial statements with the SEC, and these are available to shareholders and the general public. This is what people use to value the company.
Dillard's reported construction expenses on the financial statements. But Dillard's expenses were revenues for CDI. Dillard's owned half of CDI. So Dillard's included half of the revenues in their financial statements. So Dillard's basically counted the same transaction as an expense and as a revenue, which is not allowed and is misleading.
But no one, including Dillard's, realized this until 2007.
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43150/updated-dillards-restates-earnings-due-to-error-in-cdi-accounting?page=all
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43313/john-glasgow-letter-shows-strained-relationship-between-dillards-cdi
(I oversimplified bc it can get confusing, so if you read the articles and see that CDI had other names along the way, I omitted those types of details.)

Sutton
03-19-2015, 06:28 AM
Bill Clark II was impressed by John Glasgow and recruited him to work for CDI. In 1995, John Glasgow discovered that CDI's Chief Financial Officer was embezzling money. He was fired, and prosecuted. John was promoted to CFO. Dillard's expressed concern that CDI wasn't being controlled tightly enough and called for a restructuring of terms.
They held a meeting and Bill Dillard II, Bill Clark, Alex Dillard, and the CFOs of both companies, John Glasgow and James Freeman were present. New terms or arrangements were established. Unfortunately there is no written record of the arrangements (should be recorded in the minutes). These probably included how to record the revenues correctly, the percent paid per job, and bonuses paid to CDI officers.
Business moves forward until Bill Clark II dies in 2007. Dillard's now has the right to buy all shares, but is negotiating a deal where Bill Clark's son, William Clark retains 30% and other CDI employees own 20%.
At this point, Dillard's CFO, James Freeman, realizes they were improperly claiming revenues and expenses and questions the bonuses paid to Glasgow.
James Freeman reportedly asked Glasgow if he knew about Enron, and said, "You know the CFO there? He lost his license; he went to prison. Well, that’s what’s going to happen to you.” Freeman brought in three auditors who treated CDI like criminals.
http://upstart.bizjournals.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing.html?page=all

MrsPC
03-19-2015, 07:28 PM
The area where JG was found is off Red Bluff Dr. and is actually about 2.8 miles by vehicle from where his vehicle was parked at Mather Lodge - so his remains were much further away than what most news reports were saying. And if you look at Red Bluff Dr. on Google street view - it's basically a very isolated dirt road that winds around the upper west most portion of Petit Jean State Park. I've read several articles that state this area is the least visited area of the park due to the isolation, rugged & rocky terrain. From this street view you would take this road about 1 1/2 miles to the area near the bluff where he was found. And going the opposite direction is about 1 1/2 miles to get to Mather Lodge. (when you turn back & go in the direction of Mather Lodge there is a brown wooden roadway sign that points out the various directions to places and you veer to the right to get to the Lodge.)

https://maps.google.com/maps?output=classic&dg=brw

I do not believe that JG hiked way over to this area from Mather Lodge. I think it's possible someone else took him to Red Bluff Dr and pushed/threw him off the bluff there. But, I have no clue what the medical examiner will say yet....I'm only speculating.

here's a map from news reports

71359

Galbin
03-19-2015, 07:52 PM
John Glasgow was one of the more mysterious cases covered on Disappeared. I believe his disappearance was directly related to his workplace troubles. I do not understand why an honest, innocent man would commit suicide. There is no indication John was embezzling money or using company finds inappropriately. There is no indication he was using questionable accounting methods or that he'd made a mistake. So why would he commit suicide?
On the other hand, what else could have happened: An accident, death or injury due to natural causes, a secret new life, or foul play? Because this speculation is based on the fact his job problems caused his disappearance, I am not going to cover an accident or natural causes (but I guess they are a remote possibility). Leaving to start a new life seems similar to suicide--why do it if you are innocent? Foul play seems a bit far-fetched, just because of the logistics and total lack of supporting evidence.
But it clearly had to be one of these reasons because he did disappear.

From the outside, it seems that John had a thriving career, a large happy family and what seems to have been a stable upper middle-class life. The thought of going to prison could be absolutely terrifying to someone like that. He wouldn't be the first person to die by suicide because they were terrified of going to jail.

I don't think he died by suicide though...

J. J. in Phila
03-19-2015, 11:07 PM
The area where JG was found is off Red Bluff Dr. and is actually about 2.8 miles by vehicle from where his vehicle was parked at Mather Lodge - so his remains were much further away than what most news reports were saying. And if you look at Red Bluff Dr. on Google street view - it's basically a very isolated dirt road that winds around the upper west most portion of Petit Jean State Park. I've read several articles that state this area is the least visited area of the park due to the isolation, rugged & rocky terrain. From this street view you would take this road about 1 1/2 miles to the area near the bluff where he was found. And going the opposite direction is about 1 1/2 miles to get to Mather Lodge. (when you turn back & go in the direction of Mather Lodge there is a brown wooden roadway sign that points out the various directions to places and you veer to the right to get to the Lodge.)

https://maps.google.com/maps?output=classic&dg=brw

I do not believe that JG hiked way over to this area from Mather Lodge. I think it's possible someone else took him to Red Bluff Dr and pushed/threw him off the bluff there. But, I have no clue what the medical examiner will say yet....I'm only speculating.

here's a map from news reports

71359

There would be a number of questions.

First would have to be how close to the road and paths was the body found. The terrain is very rugged and it might be difficult to walk someone at gun point to that area. JG could have made a break for it.

Second, while the skull was found at the bottom of a cliff, the remains may not have been. Is the drop steep enough to have ensured JG's death?

Third, if there was a killer, how did he get away. Yes, the killer could have driven the car back to Mather Lodge, but how did he get out of the area? There would need to be a second vehicle.

MrsPC
03-19-2015, 11:31 PM
something else I spotted - from post #103 that contains the actual document requesting his death declaration it states - other than the items found in his vehicle that all JG took with him that day were his wallet & his watch....yet in an interview with his wife & best friend it's reported the wrist-watch was left at home...

http://upstart.bizjournals.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing.html?page=all

who knows which is correct

MrsPC
03-20-2015, 12:02 AM
the skull was found approx 150 yds off Red Bluff Dr and was approx 587 yards (1/3 mile) from any trail. The bulk of the remains (with clothing) found later were found on a rock shelf 200 yds south of where the skull was found.

I found a photo online by a tourist of the Red Bluff Dr area

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e9/f7/0e/e9f70efe9e6760f2e42e4045b6da1649.jpg

and from the Ark State Parks website - here's a shot taken of some of the cliffs at Red Bluff Dr and if you look far in the distance you can see Mather Lodge.

http://www.arkansasstateparks.com/!userfiles/photo-tour/mather%20lodge%20from%20red%20bluff%20drive.jpg

J. J. in Phila
03-20-2015, 12:12 AM
the skull was found approx 150 yds off Red Bluff Dr and was approx 587 yards (1/3 mile) from any trail. The bulk of the remains (with clothing) found later were found on a rock shelf 200 yds south of where the skull was found.

I found a photo online by a tourist of the Red Bluff Dr area

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e9/f7/0e/e9f70efe9e6760f2e42e4045b6da1649.jpg

Thanks. Any idea of the length of a fall to end up on the shelf?

justathought
03-20-2015, 12:52 PM
I am still trying to get a better understanding of where the remains were found. I hiked at Petit Jean two years ago in the fall. If the remains were found, as I think, on the "inside" rim of the park boundaries, sort of across from Mather Lodge, that's a fairly strenuous lengthy hike, especially if spur of the moment so to speak.....if he was up hill from the bottom on the opposite side so to speak.....why? unless he was going to climb out and go back around on the road....not really logical. We stayed at Mather, drove around on Red Bluff Rd. and hiked down on a couple of the trails. At Mather, we hiked down into the canyon on a couple of the trails...it's possible to go all the way around some folks do...but...it takes some time and the folks we saw usually had small packs and water at least...if the remains were on the "outside" of the rim...just doesn't seem at all logical the car would have been at Mather...more likely parked in one of the parking spots on Red Bluff Rd. Heck, if one wanted to jump off a cliff...do it right at Mather...guess I need to see an X pinpointing the spot but I haven't been able to locate that. Was he a hiker? Did he go there often? P.s. it is a very nice park and the lodge was recently renovated. I would love to go back. Thinking it could have been accident i.e. sudden death..but why not tell the wife? Just seems weird being somewhat familiar with the terrain.

justathought
03-20-2015, 01:20 PM
Ok, I went and looked at the park map...yes, he could have parked at Mather, gone down the Cedar Falls/Bear Cave trail and picked up the Boy Scout trail and been where the newspaper map above indicates his remains were located...but this would have been a several hour hike, up and down, up and down, fairly rugged....sort of a day trip if you will....why not tell his wife he was going hiking to clear his head....if it was suicide, which I hope it wasn't....it would have been a more remote area.....but again there would have been plenty of other closer places on the same mountain to accomplish hurdling oneself off a cliff with an uncertain result and it would have been possible to park a whole lot close to that area.....location still seems odd, which sort of explains why maybe he wasn't found when the searches were going on. As I recall, no wrong doing was ever uncovered..hopefully the cause of death will be revealed....from reading about the financial issues...it seemed to me like Dillards was trying to make him a scapegoat....I wonder what his brother really knows. May he and the family find some peace. Sad, sad, sad.

jstkiddn
03-20-2015, 02:06 PM
It is also not out of the realm of possibility that he was in fact just hiking to think and clear his head and had some sort of accident.

But, that being said, from everything that I've read about him, this would have been very uncharacteristic of him. It seems he would have had to have been fairly emotionally upset to go off like that without telling anyone.

Couple that with how all the work issued items were found all neatly together in his car and suicide starts seeming pretty likely. If he were just hiking...why not take the phone?

I would venture to say that that time of year, the longer, rougher back trails like that were probably pretty empty....in comparison to the trail to Cedar Falls, etc (i've hiked that many times).

I theorize he intentionally hiked far, far away from Mather because he didn't want to be found for a long time. He could have felt he had more privacy on those trails.

cluciano63
03-20-2015, 03:43 PM
Honestly I do not believe that LE says "no foul play" just to avoid an investigation. I am sure they get much more resistance from families by calling a death a suicide, so it is not really an "easy" way out, Imo.when they say "no foul play" , for the most part, I believe them. Of course I have always suspected suicide in this case, but jmo.

J. J. in Phila
03-20-2015, 05:42 PM
While I think this is likely suicide/accident, I still would not rule out foul play. I think the forensic examination might yield some important clues.

soooblessed
03-21-2015, 07:36 PM
There is a fairly remote landing strip on the mountain. He was not an avid hiker. Short of hiring a relentless PI, with the investigator saying the case is closed...I doubt anyone who knows anything will come forward. This is a major employer here. Without a smoking gun, tidbits of info will not come forward.
A case doesn't always have to start with a clear motive. It's about capability.

Sutton
03-22-2015, 03:49 AM
DNA results in one day?? That got fast tracked.
"On Thursday, Arkansas State Park employees blocked the access point to where two juniors in college found a skull which DNA testing a day later proved to be that of Little Rock businessman John Glasgow.
Had Marshall Armour, a student at Arkansas Tech University and Lance Ward, a student at the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville not skipped class to go hiking on Wednesday – Glasgow would still be considered a missing person."
http://www.katv.com/story/28493480/only-on-7-hiker-that-found-glasgow-remains-speaks-out

J. J. in Phila
03-22-2015, 08:16 AM
There is a fairly remote landing strip on the mountain. He was not an avid hiker. Short of hiring a relentless PI, with the investigator saying the case is closed...I doubt anyone who knows anything will come forward. This is a major employer here. Without a smoking gun, tidbits of info will not come forward.
A case doesn't always have to start with a clear motive. It's about capability.

BBM

I think that this will depend on what the forensics show. There could be evidence of an attack. A bullet 9or shot) could be found in the remains. Some of the bones could show evidence of knife attack. The could find remains of something used to strangle him.

There also could be evidence of a fall or of an animal attack.

I think the bolded statement is excellent and I may cite it in another case. :)

Sutton
03-22-2015, 12:36 PM
This article says John's remains, inside his clothing, were located 200 yards south of his skull.
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2015/mar/18/body-found-of-lr-exec-missing-since-08-/?news-arkansas
So that means an animal must have moved the skull, correct? I mean if it was homicide, no person is going to detach the skull and move 600 feet. So what animals are in the are that could move the skull? Eagles? Cougars? Coyotes?

J. J. in Phila
03-22-2015, 01:32 PM
This article says John's remains, inside his clothing, were located 200 yards south of his skull.
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2015/mar/18/body-found-of-lr-exec-missing-since-08-/?news-arkansas
So that means an animal must have moved the skull, correct? I mean if it was homicide, no person is going to detach the skull and move 600 feet. So what animals are in the are that could move the skull? Eagles? Cougars? Coyotes?

Rats, depending on the terrain. Racoons. Bears possibly. Another possibly is that, as the decomposed, the skull became separated and rolled. A combination of both.

MrsPC
03-22-2015, 10:26 PM
I found this interview with JG's former co-worker William Clark interesting & a little strange - especially beginning at 2:21 where he mentions that JG's step-son (MG's son from a previous marriage) said that JG was a frequent visitor to Petit Jean State Park and Mr. Clark stated that when they learned where JG's phone had pinged that the step-son knew exactly that law enforcement should then be looking at Mather Lodge for JG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixIrmbHRnD4

soooblessed
03-23-2015, 12:49 AM
Can't watch bc hubby is asleep but that directly contradicts JG's brother's saying he wasn't an avid hiker


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J. J. in Phila
03-23-2015, 01:16 AM
I found this interview with JG's former co-worker William Clark interesting & a little strange - especially beginning at 2:21 where he mentions that JG's step-son (MG's son from a previous marriage) said that JG was a frequent visitor to Petit Jean State Park and Mr. Clark stated that when they learned where JG's phone had pinged that the step-son knew exactly that law enforcement should then be looking at Mather Lodge for JG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixIrmbHRnD4

JG might have gone there for some other reason, fishing, a day out just to watch nature. He not have been a serious hiker camper but someone who went out for a day trip. The lodge has cabins that can be rented. http://www.petitjeanstatepark.com/accommodations/mather_lodge.aspx

He might have just gone up there previously for a little break.

(I have to say that it would not be my first choice.)

soooblessed
03-23-2015, 01:21 AM
There would be a number of questions.

First would have to be how close to the road and paths was the body found. The terrain is very rugged and it might be difficult to walk someone at gun point to that area. JG could have made a break for it.

Second, while the skull was found at the bottom of a cliff, the remains may not have been. Is the drop steep enough to have ensured JG's death?

Third, if there was a killer, how did he get away. Yes, the killer could have driven the car back to Mather Lodge, but how did he get out of the area? There would need to be a second vehicle.

Do people live up there? So far fetched but someone could've flown in and out. Far fetched enough it'd be nearly impossible to ever prove. I just think it's so weird he'd go there and off himself or randomly go hiking on a winter morning w/o telling anyone, park his car way away from his destination. If he didn't want to be found, leaving his car there wasn't the best way to conceal himself. The mountains are the first place anyone would look. But I suggest maybe he was held against his will and pushed off a remote cliff after the search crews left...or in a place it'd take years to find. Looking forward too seeing COD. However after this long if he was pushed, accidentally or intentionally fell off...I fear it'd be impossible to tell.

You don't wipe your prints off of your own car



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J. J. in Phila
03-23-2015, 01:44 AM
I'm not sure if the car was wiped or if they just couldn't get prints.

It took 7+ years to find the remains, so it wasn't too easy to find where he was.

It looks like Mather Lodge it is a motel type affair. You rent the rooms for a few days.

Pushed/fell may or may not be likely, depending on the site. The ledge may have been only 2-3 feet from the next point.

One thing I would be looking at as well would be broken bones.

arkansasmimi
03-23-2015, 03:19 AM
http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2008/02/glasgow_case_new_details.aspx

13 Feb 08

With the family of missing CDI Contractors chief financial officer John Glasgow looking on, Little Rock attorney Chip Welch addressed the media at Allsopp Park today, saying that the family now believes that "evidence points away from the mountain." He referred to Petit Jean, where Glasgow's car was found Jan. 29 and which has been searched extensively without turning up a trace of him.

Among the news from the event:

The reward for Glasgow has been increased to $70,000 -- $50,000 from the family, and and additional $20,000 from letsbringthemhome.org

Glasgow's Volvo has been forensically examined, and found to contain what Welch categorized as "no fingerprints," indicating that it may have been wiped down before being parked on Petit Jean.

Trained search dogs found no trace of Glasgow's scent leading away from his parked car, or anywhere else on the mountain.
In addition to Glasgow's cell phone and laptop computer, his bank card was found in the car. His wallet and car keys have not been found.

A park ranger at Mather Lodge on Petit Jean told police that Glasgow's car appeared in the parking lot there between noon and 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday. He'd last been seen leaving his home before 6 a.m. the day before, Monday, Jan. 28.

Welch said that while Glasgow had left a bank account number and the combination to a safe on a notepad at his home -- which some have taken as a suggestion that Glasgow was preparing to end it all -- he added that the numbers were found written several sheets from the top sheet of a pad of paper, and there is no way of knowing when they were written.

He reiterated, in response to a question, that there was no indication of any financial irregularities at CDI, one of the state's largest construction companies, a venture owned in equal parts by the Dillard Department Store family and the family of the late William Clark. A deal reportedly was nearing completion for purchase of Clark's share of the company by his son and investors including Glasgow.

more at link
Curious as to what "evidence" they had that made them believe at the time that JG was not on the mountain (as we now know his remains were found there).

I cant get over the car being located unlocked, with his cell phone, laptop, and bank card inside.


“He left his house around 5:15 last Monday morning, and it was probably 2:30 in the afternoon when people at work called his wife to find out why he hadn’t shown up for work. She thought he’d left home early to go to work, so that was really the first that anyone realized that there was something amiss,” said Gary Glasgow.

John Glasgow’s car was found the following day in the Mather Lodge parking lot on Petit Jean Mountain south of Morrilton http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?59600-AR-John-W-Glasgow-45-Little-Rock-28-Jan-2008&p=1969327#post1969327
*JG left home at 5:15am on Monday. It didn't appear to be any concern to anyone until approx. 2:30 pm when his work contacted JG wife.... And JG car didn't appear in the parking lot of the Lodge until the next day, Tues between noon and 1:30 per the article above.

Where was he or his veh between 5:15am Monday and Noon/1:30pm Tuesday??

ETA: per the ID show, his car was there the day he was missing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xTwS3QBCI

arkansasmimi
03-23-2015, 05:39 AM
I had never seen this before. CDI was the builder of the Clinton Library.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/03/16/clinton-library-builder-cfo-disappears-amid-audit/

arkansasmimi
03-23-2015, 08:43 AM
According to the Petition to have JG declared deceased, his veh was located the next day Jan 29th (Tues). Page 2, #6, it also states that Arkansas State Police conducted a forensic exam of the vehicle. "This examination failed to turn up any forensic evidence at all- no fingerprints from anybody, no blood, hair , or other body substances were found. The vehicle was clean." * also it was noted that his cell phone battery was dead when they found it in the car. https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/imaging/IMAGES/DMS/CK_Image.Present2?DMS_ID=60100022149008 Wouldn't they have to use police report/records to back this up? I mean they couldn't just state that could they?

I watched the ID episode. It was first time I had watched. Knowing now that his remains were found, I saw it in a diff light. I also know that this was an edited for ratings tv series. They have an agenda of sorts. Also, there is more than one way to Petit Jean Mtn. and it appears they centered about the way they presumed he would have traveled from his home. You can go Hwy 10 or Interstate 40 to get there. Either way would be arriving from a different direction. The whole veh being found, causes my hinky meter to go up hmmm

J. J. in Phila
03-23-2015, 11:18 AM
Respectfully snipped



Where was he or his veh between 5:15am Monday and Noon/1:30pm Tuesday??

ETA: per the ID show, his car was there the day he was missing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xTwS3QBCI

The drive time should be 1.25 to 1.45 hours, depending on his exact address and the exact location of Mather Lodge. Do we have an approximate time the photo was taken?

justathought
03-23-2015, 03:47 PM
The restaurant at Mather Lodge is quite nice with big windows affording beautiful views. So one could go there for lunch or any other meal actually. There also meeting spaces, and common spaces where one could meet with less privacy. Basically from that parking lot, it would be hiking if one wasn't staying there. There are cabins and also private rustic, sort of motelish, type rooms at the lodge, recently renovated (where we stayed). The question, I have now, was his car found in the Mather parking lot that day or the next day? Was he a hiker or wasn't he? I am still having a hard time believing he hiked to where his body was found, if he wasn't a serious hiker. If he was and a frequent visitor, perhaps but it could also be the place to meet someone. Yes, there are some folks who live on the mountain outside of the park. There is also the Rockefeller Retreat Center. An automobile museum, a few shops/stores etc. I believe there is still a Rockefeller Cattle Ranch. And the air strip. Win Rockefeller had a major retreat/home on top of Petit Jean which is now the retreat center. And various access roads to the mountain top.

soooblessed
03-23-2015, 04:49 PM
His car being wiped clean of fingersprints, his brother saying he wasn't an avid hiker, no suicide note....I think this is foul play.

He could've gone to Pinnacle Mountain to jump off a cliff. It's much closer.


And I don't see him parking his car and walking over a mile to where he was found.
I don't see him having any reason to be that far away from home, on a Monday AM in the winter.

I think that's the perfect place to hide a body and leave his car to be found. I think he wasn't placed there until after the searches were over. .

Say it was a professional hit...where else would they take the car and leave it? No surveillance cameras around.




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GrilledCheezy
03-23-2015, 05:23 PM
soooblessed, I would agree with you more than 100% if that were possible.

J. J. in Phila
03-23-2015, 10:24 PM
The restaurant at Mather Lodge is quite nice with big windows affording beautiful views. So one could go there for lunch or any other meal actually. There also meeting spaces, and common spaces where one could meet with less privacy. Basically from that parking lot, it would be hiking if one wasn't staying there. There are cabins and also private rustic, sort of motelish, type rooms at the lodge, recently renovated (where we stayed). The question, I have now, was his car found in the Mather parking lot that day or the next day? Was he a hiker or wasn't he? I am still having a hard time believing he hiked to where his body was found, if he wasn't a serious hiker. If he was and a frequent visitor, perhaps but it could also be the place to meet someone. Yes, there are some folks who live on the mountain outside of the park. There is also the Rockefeller Retreat Center. An automobile museum, a few shops/stores etc. I believe there is still a Rockefeller Cattle Ranch. And the air strip. Win Rockefeller had a major retreat/home on top of Petit Jean which is now the retreat center. And various access roads to the mountain top.

His car was fund the next day, but a tourist photographed it the same day JG disappeared, IIRC.

As for hiking, I have friends that hike. They go out of Appalachian Trail for a week. Even if I could, I wouldn't enjoy that. I would go on walks through the woods, that would cover that distance.

Further, if this was suicide, it would have been a one way trip.

soooblessed
03-24-2015, 01:22 AM
This was a hit. Wonder if any flights were landed that day. Guess you'd have to talk to groundscrew (if there are any) no flight manifests. Wonder if satellite imagery would catch that. (Is it only on tv that that can happen?


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jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 11:11 AM
Just playing devil's advocate here for a minute.

Someone that is in that state of mind...it's really hard for us to imagine what they may or may not do. Would it be reasonable for a non-hiker to hike that far? Maybe not, under normal circumstances, but usually when someone is at the point of seriously considering suicide, then what is "normal" tends not to apply. As was stated above, if he was planning to go into those woods and not come back out, then why not go that far?

Maybe he walked that far just thinking. Maybe he went that far as to be SURE to avoid quick discovery. It was rough terrain, but this was a marked, clear trail and someone very upset and deep in thought may have gone farther than he/she would normally.

As far as planting the body there after the search, I find it very, very difficult to believe that someone was able to carry a dead body even down the first part of the trail heading down from Mather Lodge. They tossed it off a cliff from above? Then one would think there would probably be some damage to the skull, which we know from news reports there was not.

I just don't think it's that far out of the realm of possibility that an upset, possibly suicidal man may have hiked that far down into those woods. He may not have even decided for sure or worked up the courage to do it until he got that far.

The police seemed pretty adamant with their statement that foul play was "absolutely not" suspected. They may have found evidence near the body that they have chosen not to release. I have a few ideas of "what if's" in my head that I won't go into here, but I do not for a minute discount suicide simply due to the location of the body. As a matter of fact, it tends to give me even more reason to think that is exactly what happened.

justathought
03-24-2015, 11:23 AM
J.J., not quite sure about what you mean about the one-way trip was just responding to a comment about accessing the mountain...that there is more than one way up and down. Thanks for the info about the photo. The state park is only part of the top of the mountain...not the entire thing....I watched the Fox link above with the interview with the Clark person and then clicked into the whole unedited press conference with the brother ....the brother did say his brother hiked but wasn't a professional hiker. So, if he did go there on occasion, if he did hike the trails (this wouldn't be level like a walk in the woods, at least the woods around here, it is up and down steep inclines and boulder strewn, sometimes over slick rocks due to small water streams, etc., even the park website says to notify the ranger station if you are going on the Boy Scout trail and to take water, etc, with you as it will take all day. In January, wouldn't it still have been dark if he went straight there? If he planned to hike the Boy Scout trail (the closest to where his body was found) from where he parked, he would have definitely been looking at an all day deal. Odd, not to tell anyone, so maybe an accident. I don't think planned suicide. Other closer places to leap or to park even on this hike, let alone Pinnacle Mountain as someone mentioned that is closer to LR, I was thinking if someone threatened me like the one article indicated John had been threatened by the CFO for Dillards, that he could go to jail, if I felt I was being set up as a scapegoat,a likely course of action would be to contact the Securities and Exchange Commission or FBI and lay out what I knew...etc. My thinking is Petit Jean, since Glasgow appears to have been familiar with it, would be a good place to meet whether by plane or drive in and to run less risk of anyone seeing you. The question to me is, was he distraught like the Clark person indicated in the interview...did his family see the same? His brother is an attorney, seems like John would have confided in him. His brother said homicide more than once in the unedited press conference..but would give no reason he thought that. Could someone have felt like John was a loose cannon, so to speak? Was the air strip involved, I don't know. I do recall the park rangers swore they had covered every inch of that mountain and that he was not there. I would love to know what the searchers who covered the part where his body was found say now, because the mantra at the time the searches ended was NOT that it was a big mountain. Also they said the dogs never caught any scent on the trails. I would find it hard to believe that the rangers didn't do the entire Boy Scout trail, though it would seem unlikely he would be in that area. Also, it was winter...seems like the red jacket would have stood out somewhat depends on how the ledge was situated, I suppose. What kind of shoes did John have on? Just my opinion but I think either accident that became fatal or homicide. Maybe the test results will offer some clues. But if he contacted someone to meet, wouldn't they have come forward with that information? Hard to say.

jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 11:48 AM
Other closer places to leap or to park even on this hike, let alone Pinnacle Mountain as someone mentioned that is closer to LR

I want to point out something that I think some may not realize if you haven't personally been to both of those locations.

When you leave out from the trails at Mather Lodge (or really anywhere else) on Petit Jean, you go DOWN into the valley. Mather is on top of the mountain. You could probably find somewhere suitable for jumping without going far from your car. When you drive up to Petit Jean you drive your car up the mountain and that is where all the lodges, cabins, etc are located. The views are fantastic, btw. If the point was to jump, you could easily find somewhere at Petit Jean's grave or even just jump off right there at Mather at the overlook.

When one hikes at Pinnacle, you go UP. You start at the base of the mountain and work your way to the top. You would have quite a climb before you would find anything suitable from which to fling yourself.

In other words, if the point was simply to fling oneself from a cliff, then you could go to Petit Jean and accomplish that without having to hike and climb up a mountain first. Hard to explain what I'm trying to say, so I hope that make sense.

Also, I would venture to say that Pinnacle would be more crowded than Petit Jean at that time of year. Pinnacle is very close to urban areas with many more people residing in the vicinity.

Edit to add: Pinnacle: http://www.littlerock.com/!userfiles/business-listings/lrcvb_img_sight_pinnacle_lg.jpg?width=273&height=181&crop=auto See how far one would have to climb?


Petit Jean...you can drive your car right up to this place. This is not the only such place up there. http://www.petitjeanstatepark.com/!img/photos/pj_int_img_stouts_point_overlook.jpg

justathought
03-24-2015, 12:04 PM
Thanks for the information on Pinnacle. I haven't been there in many, many years. I do recall up.
Petit Jean I have been to recently. Yes, you go down...and then up, the point I was trying to make. We agree, there are suitable jumping places without going far from the car on PJ, which makes me question the parking of the car in relation to where his remains were found, i.e. down, than up to be where he was found. Unless, he simply was hiking and then ultimately decided to end it all. My other point, was that PJ would have been a good place for an out of the way meeting, so to speak. One thing, when I was at PJ a few years ago, my ATT cell phone didn't work well at all, was having a really hard time finding and maintaining connectivity for a business thing that came up even when I was at the lodge. Wasn't his cell phone found in the car? He could have left it, not thinking it would work and he wouldn't need it. Or he could have left it on purpose. I was just struck about how many times his brother said "homicide" in the press conference at the same time saying he didn't know where the Red Bluff trail was. Made me think the family knows something more.

jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the information on Pinnacle. I haven't been there in many, many years. I do recall up.
Petit Jean I have been to recently. Yes, you go down...and then up, the point I was trying to make. We agree, there are suitable jumping places without going far from the car on PJ, which makes me question the parking of the car in relation to where his remains were found, i.e. down, than up to be where he was found. Unless, he simply was hiking and then ultimately decided to end it all. My other point, was that PJ would have been a good place for an out of the way meeting, so to speak. One thing, when I was at PJ a few years ago, my ATT cell phone didn't work well at all, was having a really hard time finding and maintaining connectivity for a business thing that came up even when I was at the lodge. Wasn't his cell phone found in the car? He could have left it, not thinking it would work and he wouldn't need it. Or he could have left it on purpose. I was just struck about how many times his brother said "homicide" in the press conference at the same time saying he didn't know where the Red Bluff trail was. Made me think the family knows something more.


You make some very good points, but again....to play devil's advocate:

It's been a while since I've been to PJ, but I do remember having cell phone issues and what you say does make sense, if not for the following. In the Disappeared episode, the policeman that first searched the car said that the laptop case was found in the back seat and inside the laptop case were ALL of his company issued items. Laptop, keys, credit card, gas card and cell phone. My point being, that if he just left the phone behind in the car because of coverage issues, then why would he place it inside the laptop case? Why not just leave it in the glove box or console? Probably not due to a theft worry, because he left the car unlocked. His brother stated he never left the car unlocked, especially with valuables. I guess he was not planning on using the phone again? The phone battery was also dead. The brother and the wife both stated that it seemed like he purposely gathered all of the company things together in one place, as if to say he was done with that job.

Someone refresh my memory...was the press conference before or after the rest of the remains were found? I'm remembering that it was before. They had found the skull and nothing else? I do remember the family stating that due to the fact there was no damage to the skull, they thought it had to be homicide because if he had jumped off a cliff or had shot himself, then there would be damage to the skull.

Has the family made any statements since the rest of the remains and clothes were discovered?

I would respectfully point out that there are more ways to kill oneself than a shot to the head. Or even using a gun at all. Or leaping from a cliff. Some ways are much less "violent". I do not wish to discuss them here out of respect, but you can all read between the lines. And ultimately if it was suicide, it's a private family matter at this point.

arkansasmimi
03-24-2015, 12:33 PM
Tourist Photo Aids in John Glasgow Search

by Gwen Moritz on Friday, Feb. 22, 2008 3:24 pm

Little Rock executive John Glasgow's Volvo SUV was parked at Mather Lodge at Petit Jean State Park sometime before 4:30 p.m. on Monday, Jan. 28, the day he disappeared, photos taken by a lodge guest show.

Two photographs taken by a Tennessee tourist refute earlier published reports that the vehicle wasn't in the parking lot until midday on Jan. 29, shortly before it was discovered.

Roger Glasgow, John Glasgow's older brother, said the family had contacted guests registered at the lodge on Jan. 28 and 29 in hopes of finding someone who had seen John or had photographs of the parking lot. One guest from Tennessee, whose name Roger didn't know, provided two date-stamped digital photos of the parking lot taken about 4:30 on that Monday afternoon, and the Volvo was in the same parking spot outside the lodge where it was discovered the next day.

Roger Glasgow provided a printed copy of one photo to ArkansasBusiness.com, but the copy did not include the date stamp.
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43353/tourist-photo-aids-in-john-glasgow-search?archives=success

arkansasmimi
03-24-2015, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the information on Pinnacle. I haven't been there in many, many years. I do recall up.
Petit Jean I have been to recently. Yes, you go down...and then up, the point I was trying to make. We agree, there are suitable jumping places without going far from the car on PJ, which makes me question the parking of the car in relation to where his remains were found, i.e. down, than up to be where he was found. Unless, he simply was hiking and then ultimately decided to end it all. My other point, was that PJ would have been a good place for an out of the way meeting, so to speak. One thing, when I was at PJ a few years ago, my ATT cell phone didn't work well at all, was having a really hard time finding and maintaining connectivity for a business thing that came up even when I was at the lodge. Wasn't his cell phone found in the car? He could have left it, not thinking it would work and he wouldn't need it. Or he could have left it on purpose. I was just struck about how many times his brother said "homicide" in the press conference at the same time saying he didn't know where the Red Bluff trail was. Made me think the family knows something more.
Yes they said his cell phone was in the car. But that the battery was dead. IIRC it pinged off of PJ around 715am? And the car was parked right in front of the lodge. I not sure what I think, but so many things just don't make sense. JMO

jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 12:39 PM
Right...that was stated in the Disappeared episode. A tourist photo (which they showed on the program...they appeared to be taking a picture of part of the lodge and happened to capture the parking lot as well. ) showed that his car was in the parking lot the same day he drove away from home.

I was able to find the photo online: http://assets.inarkansas.com/60039/glasgow-tourist-pic-parking-lot-mather-lodge.jpg

arkansasmimi
03-24-2015, 12:44 PM
The press conf was right after confirmation that it was JG. I havesn't seen anything since, but it will take a while for those reports. I cant remb where I saw it, but there was IIRC he was a Doctor? stating that by looking at other remains you could get some knowledge. Like if landed on feet diff bones would show splintering and so forth.

arkansasmimi
03-24-2015, 12:50 PM
Right...that was stated in the Disappeared episode. A tourist photo (which they showed on the program...they appeared to be taking a picture of part of the lodge and happened to capture the parking lot as well. ) showed that his car was in the parking lot the same day he drove away from home.

I was able to find the photo online: http://assets.inarkansas.com/60039/glasgow-tourist-pic-parking-lot-mather-lodge.jpg
In January, it would already be daylight at 7am... the phone pinged somewhere on PJ after 7am. Parking right up front like that, just doesn't give me the feeling he was going to harm himself. He sure didn't hide the veh. Maybe he was meeting someone to return the business stuff and quit?? And to have it all neatly in the bag, yet leave it unlocked? but as you said, we don't know what was going on in his mind.

arkansasmimi
03-24-2015, 01:03 PM
Well Jonathan Brawner is still incarcerated. http://adc.arkansas.gov/inmate_info/search.php?dcnum=146187&lastname=brawner&firstname=j&sex=b&agetype=1&__utma=93856461.266431974.1407397829.1422950550.14 26795113.23&__utmz=93856461.1422950550.22.17.utmcsr%3Dgoogle%7 Cutmccn%3D%28organic%29%7Cutmcmd%3Dorganic%7Cutmct r%3D%28not+provided%29&__atuvc=0%7C7%2C0%7C8%2C0%7C9%2C0%7C10%2C5%7C11&__atssc=google%3B5&liveagent_oref=http%3A%2F%2Fadc.arkansas.gov%2Finm ate_info%2Fsearch.php&liveagent_vc=8&liveagent_ptid=0ff1ff7e-2d01-413b-b88c-140823741aa8&__atpro_arkansasgov=false&liveagent_sid=57d48fa7-04b0-45d6-850b-8977912f242d&_ga=GA1.2.41028538.1407552941&_gat=1

MrsPC
03-24-2015, 01:06 PM
I posted this in another forum but thought I'd bring it over here too ---

What sticks in my craw is that all the items relative to his job were so neatly placed in his vehicle - his laptop, cellphone, company credit cards, etc. as if to directly imply his leaving as related to his job. And MG's statements (in the Disappeared video) about those items project that.

*But* the fact that all the little details at home are totally out of character implies something totally different occurred IMO. He didn't take a shower like he usually did. He didn't put on his watch like he usually did. He didn't take his blood pressure medication like he usually did. He didn't make coffee like he usually did.

I think "someone" wanted the public & authorities to think his absence was related strictly to his job - but - they totally forgot about all those little details at home that IMO reflect he didn't do all those things at home because he *couldn't*....

And I don't know about you or others but generally our everyday habits are sort of ground in stone. I have been drinking a Dr. Pepper every morning since I was 17 years old and I'm 62. I curl my hair every morning - whether I'm going anywhere or not. I check my email. I make sure my lights are off....you know -- everyday stuff like that...and the every day stuff that John Glasgow normally did just happened to fly out the window on the day of his disappearance.

JG's friends & family have said he was extremely predictable/dependable/mired in his routine. So, the things that occurred/or didn't occur - the morning of his disappearance - are totally out of character.

Personally, his not making coffee alone is a real stickler for me.

jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 01:16 PM
I hope I don't come across as picking apart all the other posts. LOL Sometimes I find it hard not to say "yeah, but..." It a character flaw. I own it. ;)

If one was planning on driving to a remote location with the intent to hike off in the woods and do away with oneself, would you bother to shower? Or take blood pressure medicine (what would be the point)? Was the watch something like a Rolex or other expensive brand that he wanted his family to have as opposed to being lost in the woods? He could have chosen not to make coffee and just grab a cup from a convenience store or McDonald's, as to not wake his wife. If he were intending to go kill himself, the last thing he would have wanted is to have a face to face with her before he left. She probably would have noticed something was wrong and would have questioned him. Maybe he was so stomach-churningly upset that he chose to forego the coffee all together.

Maybe he didn't do all the things he usually did because it was very, very far from a usual day.

In your case, if you were SO distraught over something that you were considering killing yourself, would you still drink the Dr. Pepper, curl your hair and check your email?

justathought
03-24-2015, 01:16 PM
Not making coffee would certainly be odd for me...even if going out for a breakfast meeting still make coffee...........................interesting points....

MrsPC
03-24-2015, 01:19 PM
On the coffee - authorities checked surveillance videos from businesses from Little Rock to Petit Jean looking for JG - they didn't find him on any, so I don't think he stopped for coffee.

And on my Dr. Pepper - I have never missed drinking my daily Dr. Pepper except when I was hospitalized & even then I *tried* to get one...LOL

JG's not making coffee is like a smoker not having that first morning cigarette. It's just really really hard for me to believe.

justathought
03-24-2015, 01:20 PM
In your case, if you were SO distraught over something that you were considering killing yourself, would you still drink the Dr. Pepper, curl your hair and check your email?[/QUOTE]
I would still make coffee. The thing is, if we are surmising that he went there...to think, hike, etc. and then "decided" , he probably would have done all of those things. If he went with mind made up, probably not....but why hike so far to "the place" , he could have parked closer or chosen another spot.

jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 01:22 PM
So do you theorize that someone broke into the house and took him from there? Interesting. I wonder if they had a security system at the time?

MrsPC
03-24-2015, 01:23 PM
No, it's not my opinion that this was "stranger" related.

jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 01:24 PM
Ahhhh! Gotcha.

soooblessed
03-24-2015, 01:34 PM
I wish we knew if his cellphone pinged on any other towers in LR that AM. They must have unless he had his phone turned off...but if he did...the battery may not have drained. Anyone know when they found his car? I know it was time stamped by the tourist photos but it must have taken a while to get the pings from the cell company. But I drive by the CDI office all the time and it isn't far from the Alltel HQ (not sure if verizon aquisition had gone through by then)


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soooblessed
03-24-2015, 01:43 PM
Saying that because it wouldn't take that long to go to the HQ and get the ping records.
- I think there are absolutely more things the family knows or that other locals know that leads everyone to believe it wasn't suicide. 10000%
I don't recall ever speaking to anyone in LR who were adamant it was suicide. It's like there is a silent consensus.



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jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 01:50 PM
Saying that because it wouldn't take that long to go to the HQ and get the ping records.

I can't remember who it was in the Disappeared episode that said it (was either someone from work or his brother...it was a man), but someone in the Glasgow camp was personal friends with someone very high up in the Alltel organization, so they were able to get the information quicker than most. Whoever it was said he called the person directly and was able to cut through a lot of red tape and get the information very fast.

jstkiddn
03-24-2015, 02:10 PM
I wish we knew if his cellphone pinged on any other towers in LR that AM. They must have unless he had his phone turned off...but if he did...the battery may not have drained. Anyone know when they found his car? I know it was time stamped by the tourist photos but it must have taken a while to get the pings from the cell company. But I drive by the CDI office all the time and it isn't far from the Alltel HQ (not sure if verizon aquisition had gone through by then)


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I just went and reviewed the Disappeared episode.

The family asked John's boss, William Clark to call his contact at Alltel, which he did. The first ping was on a LR tower at 5:15 AM, which they said meant that the phone powered up at the same time as the neighbor reported seeing John's car leaving his house.

They did not go into details, but they followed the pings out of the LR area to where the last ping was located about 60 miles west of Little Rock. They stated that the phone would have been within a certain circumference of the tower and they "triangulated" it to a spot that ultimately turned out to be in the Arkansas River. The brother and a friend went to the spot and there were no signs of him, nor was his car in the parking lot of the place along the river banks.

The brother stated that he did not feel that John would have come there, but he looked up and saw Petit Jean mountain in the distance, and told his friend they should go search up there, as John was familiar with Petit Jean. As they were driving all the dirt roads around Petit Jean, the brother received a call from an employee of Mather Lodge stating the car had been found in the parking lot.

They (wife and brother) assume he was just out "hiking it out" because they said it was his way.....to get back to nature just to think.

His car was found on Tuesday, 1/29/2008...the day after his disappearance. But, we know from the tourist's photo that the car had been in the parking lot the day of the disappearance.

justathought
03-24-2015, 03:48 PM
Well, given all of this (I haven't had a chance to go back and watch the Disappeared episode), thanks for the summary points, maybe the answer is simple. He was seriously thinking about quitting, i.e. packed up his stuff, decided to go to PJ and hike to think it through before taking any action. The exertion could have brought on a stress-induced heart attack...if the medical investigation finds no broken bones a possibility for sure. Not sure that explains the not making coffee but it could sort of explain the non-shower...

Without too much explanation, I will say this, in a vaguely similar situation, change of power players, through no fault of mine, a few months ago things got unbearable at my job that I have loved for 23 years......I did move some personal furniture out of my office which prompted staff chatter even though I made up an explanation, and "cleaned up" " my desk and computer. I debated hourly for days about just quitting rather than deal with what felt like a seriously unwarranted personal attack. I confronted it head on, things settled down and I'm still here though I don't feel the same about my job or those who employ me. To walk out in the heat of a battle when one has been dedicated to what they do, is a really hard decision to make. Glasgow wanted to be a part-owner of the company. Do you defend your job performance? Or do you go righteous and say, "I'm not putting up with attacks on my character, etc. ? " I could totally see going hiking to think about it...or to not think about it while hiking, with the idea of coming back to the situation with a clearer head. So, I'm still leaning where I started with either accident or homicide.

Skigirl
03-24-2015, 05:45 PM
I tend not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I think Glasgow had more to worry about than just whether or not to leave his job. If accounting fraud was on the table, he ran the risk of being blamed (although as I understand it, he did not have anything to do with the preparation of Dillard's financials and CDI was not a public company) or having someone who was at risk of being blamed very angry with him. I would bet his thoughts during that time included wondering whether to start talking to the SEC about threats that were made to him and pondering whether he and his family were potentially in danger.

justathought
03-24-2015, 06:12 PM
True. Earlier I had surmised that perhaps he had gone there to meet SEC or FBI but perhaps, it wasn't that far yet...a pondering of what to do next...quit the job, talk to the SEC about the threats, determine the danger...all would lead to having the laptop, etc. with him while he thought things through....an accident/ill-health could still have befallen him. My understanding of the financial situation is the same as Skigirl posted......ergo accident or homicide

MrsPC
03-24-2015, 06:49 PM
I just went and reviewed the Disappeared episode.

The family asked John's boss, William Clark to call his contact at Alltel, which he did. The first ping was on a LR tower at 5:15 AM, which they said meant that the phone powered up at the same time as the neighbor reported seeing John's car leaving his house.

They did not go into details, but they followed the pings out of the LR area to where the last ping was located about 60 miles west of Little Rock. They stated that the phone would have been within a certain circumference of the tower and they "triangulated" it to a spot that ultimately turned out to be in the Arkansas River. The brother and a friend went to the spot and there were no signs of him, nor was his car in the parking lot of the place along the river banks.

The brother stated that he did not feel that John would have come there, but he looked up and saw Petit Jean mountain in the distance, and told his friend they should go search up there, as John was familiar with Petit Jean. As they were driving all the dirt roads around Petit Jean, the brother received a call from an employee of Mather Lodge stating the car had been found in the parking lot.

They (wife and brother) assume he was just out "hiking it out" because they said it was his way.....to get back to nature just to think.

His car was found on Tuesday, 1/29/2008...the day after his disappearance. But, we know from the tourist's photo that the car had been in the parking lot the day of the disappearance.

on the triangulation - William Clark spoke in a more recent interview (after JG's remains were found) and he stated that Alltel had actually made an error when they triangulated the phone ping at Petit Jean being near the center of the Arkansas River.

J. J. in Phila
03-24-2015, 08:04 PM
Snipped a bit, respectfully.


J.J., not quite sure about what you mean about the one-way trip was just responding to a comment about accessing the mountain...that there is more than one way up and down.

I was thinking that he was planning to go into the woods to kill himself, a one way trip. I know of people who did it and one who was mercifully unsuccessful.

arkansasmimi
03-25-2015, 10:19 PM
I can't remember who it was in the Disappeared episode that said it (was either someone from work or his brother...it was a man), but someone in the Glasgow camp was personal friends with someone very high up in the Alltel organization, so they were able to get the information quicker than most. Whoever it was said he called the person directly and was able to cut through a lot of red tape and get the information very fast.

Scott Ford, the CEO from Alltel called the Guy from CDI, the son of the man who started it... mind went blank on his name. But that's who got the ping info. A

arkansasmimi
03-25-2015, 10:30 PM
True. Earlier I had surmised that perhaps he had gone there to meet SEC or FBI but perhaps, it wasn't that far yet...a pondering of what to do next...quit the job, talk to the SEC about the threats, determine the danger...all would lead to having the laptop, etc. with him while he thought things through....an accident/ill-health could still have befallen him. My understanding of the financial situation is the same as Skigirl posted......ergo accident or homicide

In that ID episode, his wife stated that (iirc Friday?) or within a few days of the disappearance, they had a long talk she and JG about their "options".

And for JG to be so punctual, curious as to why it took until 2:30 for someone to see why he wasn't at work. <Possible tho, because he had been their all weekend, they just assumed he was coming in late. But that just brings up more hmmm to me.. he had been their all weekend working.. some things just don't fit. Has to be more to this. Even if its just stuff that wasn't shared publicly. JMO

MrsPC
03-25-2015, 10:48 PM
True. Earlier I had surmised that perhaps he had gone there to meet SEC or FBI but perhaps, it wasn't that far yet...a pondering of what to do next...quit the job, talk to the SEC about the threats, determine the danger...all would lead to having the laptop, etc. with him while he thought things through....an accident/ill-health could still have befallen him. My understanding of the financial situation is the same as Skigirl posted......ergo accident or homicide

the only problem is - if John Glasgow actually drove his vehicle to Mather Lodge why didn't search dogs find his scent leading away from the vehicle? They didn't. And that's why I do not believe he drove it/parked it there.

soooblessed
03-25-2015, 10:57 PM
Editing mistakes will repost

J. J. in Phila
03-25-2015, 11:12 PM
the only problem is - if John Glasgow actually drove his vehicle to Mather Lodge why didn't search dogs find his scent leading away from the vehicle? They didn't. And that's why I do not believe he drove it/parked it there.

A tornado went through the area between the times JG would have been in the area and when the dogs came in.

arkansasmimi
03-25-2015, 11:13 PM
07/18/2008
11:59 PM PETITION
Entry: PETITION FOR DETERMINATION OF LEGAL INCAPACITY

07/21/2008
11:59 PM ORDER OTHER
Entry: ORDER DECLARING JOHN WILLIAM GLASGOW LEGALLY INCAPACITATED AND GRANTING MELINDA K. GLASGOW TO ASSUME HER DUTIES AS ATTORNEY IN FACT THAT WAS FILED ON 7/15/1996 27/556
https://caseinfo.aoc.arkansas.gov/cconnect/PROD/public/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=60PR-08-1220&begin_date=&end_date=

JG was reported missing Jan 28, 2008...No disrespect intended, it just odd to me that it wasn't fully a 6 month (less that a week being 6 mo) and he was found to be legally incapacitated. I understand the power of attorney stuff, but they didn't know what or where he was at that time. When was it that the buyout or whatever it was called went thru with Dillards? Wasn't it about the time frame of the filing of being incapacitated? And 3 yrs after he disappeared had him declared dead? Why the rush, is just my gut feeling now as it was then. Unless they had reasons to believe he was dead. JMHO.

02/02/2011
04:15 PM PETITION
Entry: PETITION FOR DECLARATION OF DEATH SUBM BY NATE COULTER

02/07/2011
10:55 AM AFFIDAVIT FILED
Entry: AFFIDAVIT OF NATE COULTER

^^ states that the Alltel pings were req on Monday 28th in afternoon, and rec'd on Tues 29th. Last ping was 715am on Monday Jan 28th.
****Also noted in the affidavit, he took his watch with him It goes on to say the law in Arkansas presumes dead if missing five years, but they give reasons why he should be presumed dead after only three... https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/imaging/IMAGES/DMS/CK_Image.Present2?DMS_ID=60100022149008

I guess it makes me think of things like those 3 young ladies who had been kidnapped and held for YEARS, And Jacie Dugard?sp but THANK GOD were found ALIVE!!! I just don't understand the rush to have JG declared deceased, if you only knew he just disappeared. Again no disrespect intended, towards anyone, I just don't understand.

MrsPC
03-25-2015, 11:20 PM
found another photo online of the Red Bluff Dr area where Glasgow's remains were found

71688

MrsPC
03-25-2015, 11:24 PM
07/18/2008
11:59 PM PETITION
Entry: PETITION FOR DETERMINATION OF LEGAL INCAPACITY

07/21/2008
11:59 PM ORDER OTHER
Entry: ORDER DECLARING JOHN WILLIAM GLASGOW LEGALLY INCAPACITATED AND GRANTING MELINDA K. GLASGOW TO ASSUME HER DUTIES AS ATTORNEY IN FACT THAT WAS FILED ON 7/15/1996 27/556
https://caseinfo.aoc.arkansas.gov/cconnect/PROD/public/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=60PR-08-1220&begin_date=&end_date=

JG was reported missing Jan 28, 2008...No disrespect intended, it just odd to me that it wasn't fully a 6 month (less that a week being 6 mo) and he was found to be legally incapacitated. I understand the power of attorney stuff, but they didn't know what or where he was at that time. When was it that the buyout or whatever it was called went thru with Dillards? Wasn't it about the time frame of the filing of being incapacitated? And 3 yrs after he disappeared had him declared dead? Why the rush, is just my gut feeling now as it was then. Unless they had reasons to believe he was dead. JMHO.

02/02/2011
04:15 PM PETITION
Entry: PETITION FOR DECLARATION OF DEATH SUBM BY NATE COULTER

02/07/2011
10:55 AM AFFIDAVIT FILED
Entry: AFFIDAVIT OF NATE COULTER

^^ states that the Alltel pings were req on Monday 28th in afternoon, and rec'd on Tues 29th. Last ping was 715am on Monday Jan 28th.
****Also noted in the affidavit, he took his watch with him It goes on to say the law in Arkansas presumes dead if missing five years, but they give reasons why he should be presumed dead after only three... https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/imaging/IMAGES/DMS/CK_Image.Present2?DMS_ID=60100022149008

I guess it makes me think of things like those 3 young ladies who had been kidnapped and held for YEARS, And Jacie Dugard?sp but THANK GOD were found ALIVE!!! I just don't understand the rush to have JG declared deceased, if you only knew he just disappeared. Again no disrespect intended, towards anyone, I just don't understand.

I had posted earlier about the discrepancy with the watch - the affidavit states he took it with him but the interview with his brother & best friend says the watch was left at home...so who knows which is correct. I was puzzled by the 7/21/2008 legal filing as well...did you notice the time "11:59pm" so it was 1 minute before midnight. very strange

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 12:08 AM
I had posted earlier about the discrepancy with the watch - the affidavit states he took it with him but the interview with his brother & best friend says the watch was left at home...so who knows which is correct. I was puzzled by the 7/21/2008 legal filing as well...did you notice the time "11:59pm" so it was 1 minute before midnight. very strange

I know, that's what gets me. The paperwork that was filed, has many conflicting information.


According to the Petition to have JG declared deceased, his veh was located the next day Jan 29th (Tues). Page 2, #6, it also states that Arkansas State Police conducted a forensic exam of the vehicle. "This examination failed to turn up any forensic evidence at all- no fingerprints from anybody, no blood, hair , or other body substances were found. The vehicle was clean." * also it was noted that his cell phone battery was dead when they found it in the car. https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/im...60100022149008

They knew ^^^ in 2011, when having him declared dead, that they had the photographs showing that JG car was allegedly their at the Lodge prior to 430pm on the date of alleged disappearance. Yet it is not reflected in the Petition to have JG declared dead!???? WHY???


Tourist Photo Aids in John Glasgow Search

by Gwen Moritz on Friday, Feb. 22, 2008 3:24 pm

Little Rock executive John Glasgow's Volvo SUV was parked at Mather Lodge at Petit Jean State Park sometime before 4:30 p.m. on Monday, Jan. 28, the day he disappeared, photos taken by a lodge guest show.

Two photographs taken by a Tennessee tourist refute earlier published reports that the vehicle wasn't in the parking lot until midday on Jan. 29, shortly before it was discovered.

Roger Glasgow, John Glasgow's older brother, said the family had contacted guests registered at the lodge on Jan. 28 and 29 in hopes of finding someone who had seen John or had photographs of the parking lot. One guest from Tennessee, whose name Roger didn't know, provided two date-stamped digital photos of the parking lot taken about 4:30 on that Monday afternoon, and the Volvo was in the same parking spot outside the lodge where it was discovered the next day.

Roger Glasgow provided a printed copy of one photo to ArkansasBusiness.com, but the copy did not include the date stamp.
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/arti...chives=success

Also, per the Petition, which was granted.. JG had no debt, home and veh paid for and they had $$$ in the bank. Why the rush to have him declared dead? Also I would presume that his wife got his share of the $$ from the sale of CDI.

Why publish in the NLR Times instead of the State Paper, Arkansas Dem Gaz? https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/imaging/IMAGES/DMS/CK_Image.Present2?DMS_ID=60100024535017 That makes me think of those divorces where they run it in a paper due to unknown address of the spouse of the divorce. Legal because it was ran in publication, but one that someone isn't going to be looking at for that kind of thing. JMHO

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 01:06 AM
Found this beautiful video Petit Jean State Park, Red Bluff Drive .... https://vimeo.com/77659115

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 01:37 AM
So, Red Bluff Drive was the closest MARKED road, so according to this, not near the road...
<snip>
Investigators have told Roger Glasgow that the skull — which he said was found at the bottom of a cliff in a rocky and remote area not near a road or trail about a mile from where his brother's car was found parked at Mather Lodge — showed no signs of trauma or gunshot wounds. He said there was no weapon found in the area of where the skull was discovered by hikers. In response to a question, Glasgow said that it is his understanding that the closest marked road to where the skull was found was Red Bluff Drive. http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/03/12/human-remains-found-on-petit-jean-mountain

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 02:26 AM
Dillard's, Inc. Announces Completion of Acquisition of CDI Contractors, LLC
Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:54pm EDT

LITTLE ROCK, Ark.--(Business Wire)--
Dillard's Inc. (NYSE: DDS) (the "Company or "Dillard's") announced
that it had completed a transaction to acquire the remaining fifty
percent (50%) interest in CDI Contractors, LLC and CDI Contractors,
Inc. ("CDI") which it did not already own. The sellers were a trust
established by William E. Clark who died in May, 2007 and Braggs
Electric Construction Company which is controlled by the Clark family.

Dillard's Director of Investor Relations, Julie J. Bull, stated,
"CDI is a full service, national construction company and is
well-known for delivering the highest quality construction services
available. This investment should enhance the future for both
Dillard's and CDI."

Dillard's, Inc. is one of the nation's largest fashion apparel and
home furnishing retailers. The Company's stores operate with one name,
Dillard's, and span 29 states. Dillard's stores offer a broad
selection of merchandise, including products sourced and marketed
under Dillard's exclusive brand names.

Dillard's Inc.
Julie J. Bull, 501-376-5965
Director of Investor Relations

Copyright Business Wire 2008

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/08/29/idUS225294+29-Aug-2008+BW20080829

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 02:28 AM
Dillard's buys Clark family interest in CDI contractors. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Dillard's+buys+Clark+family+interest+in+CDI+contra ctors.-a0195672609

Dillard's Inc. has bought the half of CDI Contractors LLC of Little Rock that it didn't already own. The sellers were a trust established by the late William E. "Bill" Clark and Braggs Electric Construction Co., which is also controlled by the Clark family. The terms of the deal were not disclosed. Clark, who founded the construction company in a 50-50 partnership with Dillard's in 1987, died in May 200Z His son, William Clark, was named CEO after his death. Early this year, the Clark family was planning to sell some of its interest to a group of longtime CDI executives, but the deal fell through after CDI's chief financial officer, John Glasgow, disappeared in late January. Glasgow's disappearance led to revelations about the strained relationship between the partners, and Dillard's blamed CDI for accounting errors that led to a modest restatement of earnings for previous years. Dillard's announced in April that it would evaluate its options with regard to CDI. Last month, a Tennessee company was mentioned as a possible buyer for CDI. The consolidation under Dillard's ownership would not preclude a subsequent sale, a scenario that has been rumored. The announcement said nothing about future management of CDI. William Clark referred questions to Dillard's.

In a separate announcement, the department store chain said it is closing its Dillard's Travel Agency. The agency operates in 43 of the company's 318 stores and employs about 160 people.

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 02:34 AM
CEO William Clark of CDI Resigns

10:09 AM, Jan 7, 2009

Clark confirmed late Tuesday that he voluntarily stepped down as CEO and has no immediate plans. He said Dillard's would have to respond to any other questions.

CDI is the state's largest general contractor and a subsidiary of Dillard's Inc. of Little Rock, which paid $9.8 million on Aug. 29 to buy the remaining half of CDI that it didn't already own, according to a Securities & Exchange Commission filing. The seller was a trust created by the late William E. "Bill" Clark and Braggs Electric Construction Co., which is also controlled by the Clark family.

Bill Clark, who founded the construction company in a 50-50 partnership with Dillard's in 1987, died in May 2007, and William Clark was named CEO following his death.

Clark's resignation comes just less than a year after CDI's chief financial officer, John Glasgow, disappeared on Jan. 28, 2008. Glasgow's whereabouts remain unknown. Arkansas Business reported in February 2008 that the relationship between the management of CDI and Dillard's was under tremendous stress in the days before his disappearance.

At the time, the Clark family was planning to sell some of its interest to a group of longtime CDI executives, but the deal fell through after Glasgow's disappearance. Dillard's announced in April 2008 that it would evaluate its options with regard to CDI, then bought the rest of the company in August.

Arkansas Business
http://archive.thv11.com/news/article/78096/2/CEO-William-Clark-of-CDI-Resigns

soooblessed
03-26-2015, 02:39 AM
Hoping a PI is reading here...the fam needs a PI. Were there any flights to or from PJ That day?

Who lives up there?
Anyone with connections to big players not happy with him?
Who do you thin would want him dead/why?
I will be shocked if this not a homicide.


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arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 02:46 AM
A Year Later: Family Believes John Glasgow's Dead
by Gwen Moritz on Monday, Jan. 26, 2009 12:00 am

In August, Dillard's exercised its option to buy the other half of the construction company from the heirs of founder Bill Clark. Earlier this month, Bill Clark's son, William, resigned as CEO of CDI and told Arkansas Business that Dillard's had rejected his offer to buy the company.

On Dec. 1, Glasgow's wife, Melinda, took a new job as recycling program coordinator for the city of Little Rock. She declined to be interviewed for this story.

Despite Roger Glasgow's words, there have been a number of leads in the case. They just didn't go anywhere.

The Alltel records show, according to Roger, that Glasgow's cell phone bounced a ping off a tower that covers the area between Lake Conway and Wye Mountain at 7:22 a.m., more than two hours after he presumably left home.

"That's more than enough time to get all the way to Petit Jean," Roger noted. But no one has a clue where he was during that time.

A coworker at CDI tried to call Glasgow at 11:40 a.m. The call was not answered, but the signal bounced off the Bartlett Road tower on Petit Jean, so his phone was there by then. A tourist's photo, received a couple of weeks later, showed the Volvo was in the lodge parking lot by 4:30 p.m.; the cell phone was in the unlocked car when it was discovered the day after Glasgow left home.


Bloodhounds brought in by Arkansas State Parks and by the Arkansas Forestry Commission couldn't seem to pick up Glasgow's scent outside his car or in the parking lot. Surveillance videos from businesses between Little Rock and Russellville, including businesses all around Petit Jean, were collected and reviewed, to no avail.

About three weeks later, the Glasgow family paid the travel expenses for a dog handler from Maine and her associate from Virginia. The women claimed their dogs were trained to follow cold trails, even to the point of tracking people who were traveling by car. An employee of the Waffle House in Russellville claimed to have served a man who looked like John Glasgow, and the handlers believed the dogs picked up his scent there.

Roger Glasgow says he appreciates the effort but has no confidence in it.

"We don't believe that he was at that restaurant in Russellville, or any of these reports from people within about a month who thought they saw him," he said.

One of those reported sightings was at a Searcy motel, where a construction crew reported hiring a temporary laborer who resembled John. The man said he had experience in construction and that he couldn't go home.

"It sounded very promising," Roger Glasgow said. But a private investigator from New York, hired by the Glasgow family, waited at the motel until the man returned and talked with him. It wasn't John Glasgow.
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/40722/a-year-later-family-believes-john-glasgows-dead?page=2

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 03:07 AM
Hoping a PI is reading here...the fam needs a PI. Were there any flights to or from PJ That day?

Who lives up there?
Anyone with connections to big players not happy with him?
Who do you thin would want him dead/why?
I will be shocked if this not a homicide.


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There is a private air strip up on Petit Jean Mtn. In that ID episode, the LEO stated they checked but that they had no records, (IIRC) so who knows... Also according to the Petition to have JG declared dead, they had 2 PI on the case.

I was wondering about the July 2008 having him declared incapacitated, if it had anything to do with the sale of the 50% of CDI to employees. It appears that whole thing fell thru and the CEO and his Family sold to Dillards.. final as in the reports above Aug 29, 2008, $9.8 million.

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 03:36 AM
Per #208

The Alltel records show, according to Roger, that Glasgow's cell phone bounced a ping off a tower that covers the area between Lake Conway and Wye Mountain at 7:22 a.m., more than two hours after he presumably left home.

"That's more than enough time to get all the way to Petit Jean," Roger noted. But no one has a clue where he was during that time.

A coworker at CDI tried to call Glasgow at 11:40 a.m. The call was not answered, but the signal bounced off the Bartlett Road tower on Petit Jean, so his phone was there by then. A tourist's photo, received a couple of weeks later, showed the Volvo was in the lodge parking lot by 4:30 p.m.; the cell phone was in the unlocked car when it was discovered the day after Glasgow left home.


Curious to where the pings of other calls made to his phone until the car was located on Tues pinged from. Does a phone still ping if the battery is dead? On Google Bartlett Road is 3 miles from 1069 Petit Jean Mountain Rd, Morrilton AR, the address for Mathers Lodge. Also for what its worth, Red Bluff Drive is between the Bartlett Drive and Petit Jean Mtn Rd..

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 03:38 AM
This gave me chills (I personally don't believe in psychic ability, but this is creepy)

Strange Vision
by Gwen Moritz on Monday, Jan. 26, 2009 12:00 am

The rewards offered when John first vanished have expired. But a tip still comes in every now and then, according to Roger, and the www.FindJohnGlasgow.com Web site is still online. In December, he got an e-mail that was different from the rest.

It was from a Garland County man who claimed to have psychic ability and who claimed to have seen a vision of John Glasgow's body lying face down in a bed of oak leaves somewhere near a craggy outcropping of rock.

"I'm pretty scientific minded," Roger Glasgow said, and he had been unimpressed with various psychics who had contacted the family after John vanished. Still, this man's story gave him the creeps.

The man, who agreed to be interviewed only if his identity was not revealed, told Arkansas Business that he worked for Dillard's Inc. for several years. He was familiar with John Glasgow because of the work CDI did for Dillard's, but he had never had a conversation with him. He was working in Mississippi last winter when a former coworker from Dillard's called and told him the news of Glasgow's disappearance.

"At that point, I closed my eyes and I had this vision of what happened to him. I do this quite often. So I told her what I saw."

He didn't contact Roger Glasgow for many months. But he said he bought a good set of binoculars and, with his former Dillard's coworker and another man, spent time searching the back roads off Highway 10 between Pinnacle Mountain west of Little Rock and Petit Jean, looking for a spot that matched his vision.

The man believes Glasgow was killed by a blow to the head.
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/40722/a-year-later-family-believes-john-glasgows-dead?page=3

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 04:06 AM
I believe this has been posted but if not its a long but informative read:

February 11, 2009, 8:00am EST | Updated: August 4, 2012, 1:17pm EDT

The Runaway CFO
http://upstart.bizjournals.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing.html?page=all

soooblessed
03-26-2015, 04:17 AM
Investigators or PI I know you're reading here please go and re-interview people who live and work around the mountain. Especially anyone who works for the landing strip or anyone who has anything to do with that. Anyone heard the number of flights that were flown off flown into the landing strip on Petit Jean Mountain. Investigators go talk to ALL locals there. See any connect to Dillard's in any way.. Hard to make talk but always a chance.

Edit
The connection will be hard to find....get on it!

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arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 04:29 AM
<Snip>
On Saturday, Glasgow went to work, as he’d been doing for weeks in order to prepare the stock-redistribution plan. There he ran into William Clark, who told him that he’d just personally delivered Glasgow’s letter to Bill Dillard at his home. That should have been good news—Glasgow’s views were going to be heard, Clark was supporting him—but he barely mentioned this when he got home that night.

According to Melinda, Glasgow seemed fine on Sunday morning. He went to work. No one else was in the office. Glasgow’s electronic-key-card record shows that he went in and out several times, by CDI’s side door, for what appear to have been cigarette breaks. Around noon, he went home for lunch. Shortly after 2 p.m., Melinda found Glasgow lying on the couch in the den “just kind of staring.” He seemed “distant” and “in deep thought,” but it didn’t strike her as unusual because, she says, “John lived in deep thought a lot.” But that moment is the one that bothers her. “I sensed that he was disturbed, you know,” she says, her voice wavering. “Clearly I didn’t think…”

Glasgow returned to CDI around 2:30 p.m. At 4:05, according to his key card, he left and was gone for exactly 30 minutes. Where he went, no one knows; but he was back home by 5 p.m., as promised.
.......

Melinda went to put on a bathrobe, and when she returned, John was fast asleep in the chair. “Snoring,” she says. At 10:30 p.m., ready to go to bed, Melinda shook John gently, but he didn’t wake up, so she let him sleep.

Sometime after that, Glasgow awoke, and, according to the evidence he left behind, did the following things: He wrote two checks from a family educational trust—one to a niece and the other to himself to cover his trustee’s fee, which, apparently on second thought, he redeposited back into the trust fund. The checks were dated that morning and were left out on the kitchen counter. Glasgow also wrote the only note that he would leave behind, three lines on a pad that Melinda used for her to-do lists—the Bank of America website, the number of their electronic account, and the password to their home safe, where Glasgow left $11,400 and his passport.

He took his cell phone from the kitchen counter, his corporate credit card from his briefcase, and went downstairs to the basement, where he picked up his company laptop. Leaving behind his wristwatch and his blood-pressure medication, he got into his Volvo and pulled out of the driveway. At 5:15 a.m., minutes after his neighbor saw the car drive away, Glasgow’s cell phone was turned on.
.......

After he’d been missing for two weeks, Glasgow’s family enlisted the help of VK9, a volunteer search group, whose dogs specialize in “contaminated,” or cold, scents. Three dogs would pick up Glasgow’s scent at CDI, as well as at two motels, a Waffle House, and a Phillips Gas station just off Interstate 40 in Russellville and Conway, two towns north of Little Rock. But if Glasgow had been in those places, he was long gone.

Quincy, the most experienced of the dogs, also picked up Glasgow’s scent at Dillard’s. Quincy had run up the company’s driveway, stopped in the parking lot, and then jumped at the door, signaling that he had picked up a strong scent of Glasgow. According to Glasgow’s date book, the last time he was at Dillard’s was on December 26, 2007, for a meeting with Bill Dillard. Although it was impossible to know how old the scent that Quincy found was, his handler suggested that it appeared to be more recent than that. This made Glasgow’s family wonder if perhaps he’d gotten a call at work that final day and gone to Dillard’s during that “missing” half hour.

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 04:37 AM
Per the ID episode, it stated that JG was working weekend getting caught up. Per this article, it was working on the distribution of the split.

And they sure didn't waste any time!!

<snip>
Less than a week after Glasgow disappeared, there was a new CFO at CDI—one of the three Dillard’s auditors that Freeman had sent to examine CDI’s books. But there was more news to come. In a cryptic note in its 10-K for the 2007 fiscal year, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission in March, Dillard’s informed its stockholders that it was restating its earnings by $10.1 million because of an “error” in CDI’s accounting. While reviewing CDI’s books, Dillard’s said, it had “discovered that CDI had recorded profit on the company’s construction projects in excess of what CDI had previously reported.”

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 04:37 AM
Exactly why Freeman had been so angry at Glasgow remains a mystery, and Freeman would not comment. All that is certain is that by March 2008, the relationship between Dillard’s and CDI was under scrutiny. That month, Barington Capital and Clinton Group announced they were mounting a proxy fight against Dillard’s, supported by a third fund, Southeastern Capital Management Inc. By then, the three funds had amassed close to 20 percent of Dillard’s class-A shares. Within days, Barington and Clinton issued their first demand for the retailer’s records, including those dealing with CDI. Soon after that, Dillard’s suddenly agreed to put four candidates approved by the funds onto its board. But the funds were still unhappy. In December, after angrily calling on Dillard’s board to oust Bill Dillard and remove his family from the company’s management, the funds renewed their demand for CDI’s records, particularly those relating to construction work for Dillard’s insiders. Guinee confirms that CDI did such work for Dillard family members, “at cost, no fee,” although he maintains that the amount of money involved was “just pennies,” relative to CDI’s revenues. To the surprise of many in Little Rock, two of the hedge funds also demanded all the records relating to Dillard’s inscrutable restatement of earnings.

In a battle that is likely to intensify, Dillard’s has so far refused to release those documents. But whatever they contain, some of Glasgow’s friends and family believe that if he knew that something like the restatement was coming and that he was going to be branded as the CFO who had made a multimillion-dollar mistake, it would have shattered him. Roger Glasgow isn’t sure that his brother killed himself. John’s disappearance seemed too well planned to have been the act of a suicidal man. The months have whittled away at their optimism, but there are many who believe that Glasgow may still be alive. They hope that after “a lifetime of fitting in and doing the right thing,” as one friend puts it, he did what many people only fantasize about: drove off in his car and didn’t come back.

In August, Dillard’s bought out Bill Clark’s shares and took over CDI. In January, William Clark left the company. Until John Glasgow makes contact, or his body is found, the suspended grief of the many people who love him will hover like a dark cloud. “Not knowing is the worst,” says Roger, his eyes welling up. “You’re always looking over your shoulder, thinking you’ve seen him. Hoping. And it could go on forever.”

arkansasmimi
03-26-2015, 04:47 AM
On the backseat, neatly bundled together in a black computer bag, were all of his executive belongings—his company laptop and cell phone, his corporate Visa and gas cards, and his electronic office key.
...
Glasgow rarely used his cell phone, and the question that haunts his family is whether he turned it on so that he would be tracked. But that is one of myriad questions, the most pressing of which is what had happened at work, particularly on the Sunday before Glasgow disappeared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So JG turns on his Cell then puts it in the computer case with all the other company stuff?? Then leaves all of it in the car unlocked? I pray they find some answers....

justathought
03-26-2015, 11:54 AM
Good information in the posts above. Thank you. I had not read some of this. I hope we learn what the final forensics report says.

MrsPC
03-26-2015, 07:19 PM
another poster had written that search dogs probably didn't find JG's scent at Mather Lodge because of a tornado. But, that's not correct. There were no tornadoes prior to or on the days the search dogs were used. There was bad weather & reports of tornadoes in Arkansas in a few counties (Pope, Izard, Van Buren, Stone, Baxter & Conway) (and Petit Jean is in Conway county) on Tuesday 2/5/2008. Search dogs were first used for 3 days just after the vehicle was found. And according to this timeline the search at Petit Jean was called off by 2/2/2008.

http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/story/john-glasgow-disappearance-timeline/20485/SmFBvFsDu0eSEMVIVgB9VQ

J. J. in Phila
03-26-2015, 09:25 PM
I have seen the weather described as a tornado and the day after JG disappeared there were 60 MPH wind gusts, with thunderstorms: http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KRUE/2008/1/29/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Morrilton&req_state=AR&req_statename=&reqdb.zip=72110&reqdb.magic=1&reqdb.wmo=99999

It it was from Morrilton, AR, about 2-3 miles east and lower. The winds were higher at higher altitudes, in all probability. That could easily account for the lack of scent.

justathought
03-27-2015, 12:33 PM
A Little Rock local, who was casually acquainted with John, told me yesterday that he had understood that the car keys were in the car ignition when it was found. Do we know where the car keys were found? He had also been told that John was being told that he had to return a $200,000 bonus. I don't know if this is the same bonus that was referred to as a $300,000 bonus in the link above and the amount my friend said is wrong or whether Glasgow was just being asked to return part of it. According to the story, the bonus was in the bank so it wasn't a financial problem. I wonder if Glasgow did go to Dillards that Sunday afternoon to meet/to defend himself. It seems like by that Sunday, he would have been making copies of whatever documents that would provide proof that he had done nothing wrong. I wonder if the copier log was checked and if the family ever got any of the documents they were seeking from the construction company. He may have approached the wrong person seeking help. One other thing, the story said the sunglasses were in his car on the console which would indicate he wears sunglasses in winter as many do due to glare issues. Why wouldn't he have worn or at least taken the sunglasses on a hike? At times, in this terrain they wouldn't have been needed but other times they would have been useful, like staring out over a vista. I would think chances are slim for his family to be able to file a civil wrongful death suit to get to some discovery but it would be beneficial for them to get those phone records, etc. I wonder if Bill Clark or anyone will speak out now. Some agreement in his buyout may preclude that. Seems like definitely some financial shenanigans going on that cost a man his life one way or another. Sad that.

jstkiddn
03-27-2015, 03:44 PM
Ok, this is a super crazy theory, but bear with me.

I'm sure he had some type of life insurance, as most people in his financial bracket do.....right?

Would the life insurance pay out if it were suicide? I'm not sure how these things work, but it seems that I've heard of at least some policies that will not pay out if the death is ruled a suicide.

Could this would explain why he left no note (other than an account number and safe combination) and why he hiked so far deep into the woods before he "did the deed". If they didn't find his body until years later, then it would be hard to prove suicide, wouldn't it? His family would still get/keep the money?

Like I said...it's a pretty crazy thought, but it's one that's been rattling around in my head for the past day or two and I finally decided to verbalize it. I'm just sort of thinking out loud.

MrsPC
03-27-2015, 07:04 PM
A Little Rock local, who was casually acquainted with John, told me yesterday that he had understood that the car keys were in the car ignition when it was found. Do we know where the car keys were found? He had also been told that John was being told that he had to return a $200,000 bonus. I don't know if this is the same bonus that was referred to as a $300,000 bonus in the link above and the amount my friend said is wrong or whether Glasgow was just being asked to return part of it. According to the story, the bonus was in the bank so it wasn't a financial problem. I wonder if Glasgow did go to Dillards that Sunday afternoon to meet/to defend himself. It seems like by that Sunday, he would have been making copies of whatever documents that would provide proof that he had done nothing wrong. I wonder if the copier log was checked and if the family ever got any of the documents they were seeking from the construction company. He may have approached the wrong person seeking help. One other thing, the story said the sunglasses were in his car on the console which would indicate he wears sunglasses in winter as many do due to glare issues. Why wouldn't he have worn or at least taken the sunglasses on a hike? At times, in this terrain they wouldn't have been needed but other times they would have been useful, like staring out over a vista. I would think chances are slim for his family to be able to file a civil wrongful death suit to get to some discovery but it would be beneficial for them to get those phone records, etc. I wonder if Bill Clark or anyone will speak out now. Some agreement in his buyout may preclude that. Seems like definitely some financial shenanigans going on that cost a man his life one way or another. Sad that.

From all reports I've read his vehicle key/s have not been located. His office/work keys were found in the laptop bag in the vehicle. His wallet was found in his pants pocket with his remains on the shelf of rock. You would think his vehicle keys would also have been in his pocket. I haven't heard anything about him returning the $300,000 bonus he rec'd shortly before his disappearance. I think the local might be confused. JG had rec'd a $500 bonus some time back for quitting smoking & then gave it back to the company when he started smoking again.

J. J. in Phila
03-27-2015, 08:46 PM
Ok, this is a super crazy theory, but bear with me.

I'm sure he had some type of life insurance, as most people in his financial bracket do.....right?

Would the life insurance pay out if it were suicide? I'm not sure how these things work, but it seems that I've heard of at least some policies that will not pay out if the death is ruled a suicide.

Could this would explain why he left no note (other than an account number and safe combination) and why he hiked so far deep into the woods before he "did the deed". If they didn't find his body until years later, then it would be hard to prove suicide, wouldn't it? His family would still get/keep the money?

Like I said...it's a pretty crazy thought, but it's one that's been rattling around in my head for the past day or two and I finally decided to verbalize it. I'm just sort of thinking out loud.

Most life insurance policies will pay off on suicide after it has ben in force for 2-3 years, In PA, it is two years.

arkansasmimi
03-27-2015, 11:24 PM
Ok, this is a super crazy theory, but bear with me.

I'm sure he had some type of life insurance, as most people in his financial bracket do.....right?

Would the life insurance pay out if it were suicide? I'm not sure how these things work, but it seems that I've heard of at least some policies that will not pay out if the death is ruled a suicide.

Could this would explain why he left no note (other than an account number and safe combination) and why he hiked so far deep into the woods before he "did the deed". If they didn't find his body until years later, then it would be hard to prove suicide, wouldn't it? His family would still get/keep the money?

Like I said...it's a pretty crazy thought, but it's one that's been rattling around in my head for the past day or two and I finally decided to verbalize it. I'm just sort of thinking out loud.

not any crazier of a theory than any other considering what we "know". < much of which is conflicting. But in reality person wouldn't know that he/she would or wouldn't be found for years. But then, I would venture to say people to the point of suicide are not dealing with reality in a good way. :(

arkansasmimi
03-27-2015, 11:35 PM
With Roger Glasgow being a seasoned attorney, I am sure he sees things different than us. (evidence and so forth) I hope they do find answers.

What is yalls gut feeling on that Jon Brawner? I read one article where JG wife said she thinks he may know something but hard to tell.

Considering the tone of what was going on and the $$, who knows it possible a prof hit, but I keep going back and forth. And JMHO, the reports stating CDI and Dillards both saying their were nothing wrong with the books, it wouldn't be in their best interest to state they were would it? CDI couldn't say anything because Dillards held 50% of company, same with Dillards... The way I took it from articles I read, and its JMHO, I am thinking Bill CLark jr, just wanted out (one article so much as said so) so jmho, he isn't going to say much (if he could) JG dealings were with Bill Clark SR. Do we even know if Clark Jr even gave the letter/email to Dillards? (cant remb off top of head, only remb that JG sent to him)

(thinking out loud) From what we have read, the account set up was something that had been going on from back in mid 90's a verbal agreement. It was stated that minutes weren't recorded. Being now that the other person who was in on that was now deceased, and unable to back it up, I could see where would be very upsetting. Curious if Bill Clark Jr was even in those meetings or in the know. Was he active in the company before his father passed?

arkansasmimi
03-27-2015, 11:52 PM
After the resignation of William Clark, Dillard's Inc. of Little Rock on Wednesday named Lloyd Garrison as the new CEO of CDI Contractors, the construction firm it owns.

Garrison has been with CDI since 1987, most recently serving as president, and has more than 30 years of experience in the construction industry.

ArkansasBusiness.com was first to report on Clark's resignation on Tuesday. William Clark succeeded his late father, Bill Clark, as chief executive officer of the company. On Tuesday, William Clark referred all questions about his departure to Dillard's.
...
"We have reluctantly accepted William’s resignation and wish him the best in his future endeavors," Dillard's President Alex Dillard said in the news release. "We look forward to working with Lloyd and his team at CDI to pursue compelling projects and to grow the business."

Dillard's also said it is "no longer considering strategic options with regard to its interest in CDI Contractors, LLC."

Dillard's announced in April that it would evaluate its options with regard to CDI, which included a possible sale. It retained Stephens Inc. of Little Rock to "assist it in evaluating its options with regard to" its then-50 percent ownership stake in the firm.

Stephens' CEO, Warren Stephens, is one of the eight member of the Dillard's board of directors elected by the Dillard family as Class B shareholders.

Following the April announcement, Dillard's announced in August that it would buy the remaining half of CDI that it didn't already own. Documents later showed that Dillard's paid $9.8 million for the other 50 percent of the company.

"Under the leadership of William Clark and his father, Bill, CDI has established a strong legacy of providing the highest level of construction services available supported by the strongest team in the industry," Garrison said in the news release on Wednesday. "CDI will continue to provide our clients with that exceptional level of service." http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/40887/dillards-names-lloyd-garrison-ceo-of-cdi-contractors?page=all

arkansasmimi
03-27-2015, 11:57 PM
CEO William Clark of Clark Contractors Focuses on Constructing Solid Foundations
March 1, 2014

When it comes to working in construction, William Clark claims he’s a “lifer.” The Little Rock native, husband to Christy and father of three graduated from the U of A in 1991 with a degree in business management with an emphasis in small business/entrepreneurship. Three weeks after graduation he went to work for his dad, Bill Clark, at Braggs Electric, which did all the electrical work for Dillard’s.

“I started out working in the accounting department at Braggs,” he recalls. About three years later the elder Clark moved William over to CDI Construction (which he also owned), and he began working as a project manager.

“When my dad got diagnosed with cancer in December 2006, I was working onsite at UAMS on the new patient tower project. A month later I was back in the office working closely with my dad to learn more about the executive side of things.”

The elder Clark died about five months after that and William was promoted to CEO of CDI. A year-and-a-half later, he really put his degree to work as he started his own business, Clark Contractors.

In the five years since the launch of Clark Contractors, the company has put its mark on a number of notable projects, including too many healthcare projects to mention, the newly finished Arcade Building in downtown Little Rock and the Clinton Presidential Park Bridge. Clark Contractors is also currently working on the downtown Mann on Main renovation. “I was also the project manager on Heifer’s new headquarters building, which was the first LEED Platinum building in Arkansas,” Clark says.
more.. http://www.littlerocksoiree.com/post/97340/ceo-william-clark-of-clark-contractors-focuses-on-constructing-solid-foundations

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 12:20 AM
Hmmmm :thinking:
Clark Contractors Competing With CDI Is 'the New Normal,' CEO Says
by Gwen Moritz on Monday, Apr. 13, 2009 12:00 am

William Clark, head of Clark Contractors: "We're going to do business just like we did at CDI."

From the time he finished college, William Clark's dream was to succeed his father, Bill, as CEO of CDI Contractors.
Now, from a small office suite on Highway 10 in west Little Rock, Clark and a handful of former CDI colleagues are pursuing construction jobs in competition with the company his father founded with Dillard's Inc. in 1987.

"Ironically, yes," Clark said last week, "being CEO of a company that competes with CDI feels very strange. But I'm afraid this is the new normal."

Everything about the past two years has seemed strange to William Clark, whose 40th birthday is Monday. Although it was his goal to be CEO of CDI, "I didn't think it would happen for another 10 years." Instead, 63-year-old Bill Clark died of cancer in May 2007, setting off a chain reaction of business, legal and personal maneuvering that Clark doubts his father could ever have imagined.

"I think if he knew everything that happened in 2008, he would bless this decision," Clark said.

When 2008 started, William Clark expected that some of his family's half-interest in CDI would be sold to longtime managers. A deal to that effect was in the works – including a hot dispute over how Dillard's should have accounted for its share of the profits – when one of those managers, longtime chief financial officer John Glasgow, mysteriously vanished on the last Monday of January 2008.

The plan to sell shares to managers screeched to a halt. In March 2008, Dillard's restated a few million dollars worth of profit over several years and blamed it on an "error" by CDI.

The next month, Dillard's announced that it had retained Stephens Inc. of Little Rock to "assist it in evaluating its options" for its 50 percent of CDI. (Warren Stephens, owner of Stephens Inc., is a member of the Dillard's board of directors, part of a two-thirds majority elected directly by members of the Dillard family.)Dillard's had a contractual right to buy Clark's half of the business upon his death, and it exercised that option in August. The purchase price paid to Clark family trusts, according to Dillard's filings with the Securities & Exchange Commission, was $9.8 million.

Clark and 11 other CDI managers – including Danny Bennett, Shannon Earls and John Johnson – made an offer to buy CDI. But they did not advance to a second round of negotiations in September, Clark said.

Two other prospective buyers did. But their bids were "I guess lower than Dillard's wanted," he said. Dillard's Inc. – led by Bill Clark's best friend, William Dillard II – sent word through Stephens' representatives that it would entertain one more offer from the CDI managers.

On Friday, Dec. 19, Clark said, "We put in an offer we could finance and service. And they said no." The call came from Stephens' COO Curt Bradbury.

"At that time, I knew they were going to begin integrating CDI into Dillard's," Clark said, and it wasn't just an accounting change. The days when "Bill Dillard allowed Bill Clark to run CDI as he saw fit" were clearly over.

Decisions that were once left to CDI were being made by the parent company, including severing some longtime business relationships that Clark feared would cost the company future building contracts. Clark had become, in his words, "CEO in name only."

"They started implementing their management philosophy, and that was different from what I felt was the best course for CDI. I decided to strike out on my own and start my own firm," he said.

New Old Company
Clark resigned as CEO on Jan. 6. The next day, Dillard's promoted Lloyd Garrison, president of CDI and one of the first employees Bill Clark hired in 1987, as his successor.

On Feb. 10, Clark and minority partners Earls and Bennett announced the creation of Clark Contractors LLC. Clark wouldn't reveal the ownership split, but he said Earls' and Bennett's shares were "more than nominal."

Clark and Earls had started working for CDI on the same day in June 1991. Bennett, 52, had joined the company two months earlier after working at Pickens-Bond Construction Co. of Little Rock and its successor, Hensel Phelps.

They also brought John Johnson with them from CDI as chief financial officer, as well as Christy Clark – William's wife, whom he met when she joined the accounting staff of CDI. Rounding out the Clark Contractors staff is Carrie Dailey, a human resources and payroll staffer who was laid off from CDI as its accounting was integrated with that of Dillard's Inc.

more: http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/40043/clark-contractors-competing-with-cdi-is-the-new-normal-ceo-says?page=all

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 12:36 AM
CDI Adds to Dillard's Bottom Line

by Gwen Moritz on Monday, Apr. 13, 2009 12:00 am

CDI Contractors reported record 2007 revenue of $575 million when surveyed for Arkansas Business' 2008 list of the state's largest private companies.

Publicly traded Dillard's Inc. bought the half of CDI it didn't already own on Aug. 29 and now operates it as a wholly owned subsidiary, so CDI will no longer be eligible for the list of private companies. But Dillard's reports to the Securities & Exchange Commission should make it possible to determine whether CDI remains as busy under its new ownership and management structure. And it will be the only construction company in Arkansas whose profitability is a matter of public record.

The annual report that Dillard's filed with the SEC on April 1 breaks down corporate revenue into two business segments: retail operations and construction. Here are pertinent details the "Form 10-K" reveals about the construction segment:

• After paying $9.8 million in cash for the 50 percent of CDI owned by the heirs of founder Bill Clark, the corporation acquired assets of $92 million, including cash of $14.1 million and accounts receivable of $72.9 million, and liabilities (accounts payable) of $82.2 million. Five months later, at Dillard's fiscal year-end on Jan. 31, the CDI assets were $84.91 million.

• CDI had net sales of almost $88 million to external customers in the five months it was owned by Dillard's in fiscal 2008. It also had "intersegment" revenue – that is, revenue for work done on Dillard's retail properties – of $19.1 million during that period. (It was a dispute over how to account for CDI profits from work for Dillard's that led to a restatement of earnings last year.)

• Dillard's slashed capital expenditures in 2008 by more than half – from $396.3 million in 2007 to $189.6 million in 2008 – "mainly as a result of the construction of fewer stores," the report says. Since CDI does virtually all of the store construction and remodeling for Dillard's, that decrease in capital expenditures presumably had a dramatic impact on CDI's 2008 revenue and on any comparison between 2007 and 2008. It would also help explain the layoffs at CDI last year, which Arkansas Business reported but which neither CDI nor Dillard's would confirm.

• The construction segment's net profit during the partial year was $4.15 million – that is, 4.7 percent. At the bottom line, however, CDI after-tax profit offset the company's $241 million net loss only by about 1 percent
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/40044/cdi-adds-to-dillards-bottom-line

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 01:12 AM
I know this is a dup post of link, but Mr. Clark says here that the step son knew when they got the ping from Petit Jean area that he knew exactly that he needed to head to Mathers Lodge appx 139 in video... http://www.fox16.com/story/d/story/john-glasgows-co-worker-talks-about-findings/35115/38ayLf96zEq_e4Ya1Z5WCg maybe its just petty of me but everyone's story is different as to what happened

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 01:32 AM
Copy of the letter that JG drafted... http://selvedgeyard.com/2009/05/18/dillards-mystery/

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 04:13 AM
There was def a lot going on...:thinking:

Exactly why Freeman had been so angry at Glasgow remains a mystery, and Freeman would not comment. All that is certain is that by March 2008, the relationship between Dillard’s and CDI was under scrutiny. That month, Barington Capital and Clinton Group announced they were mounting a proxy fight against Dillard’s, supported by a third fund, Southeastern Capital Management Inc. By then, the three funds had amassed close to 20 percent of Dillard’s class-A shares. Within days, Barington and Clinton issued their first demand for the retailer’s records, including those dealing with CDI. Soon after that, Dillard’s suddenly agreed to put four candidates approved by the funds onto its board. But the funds were still unhappy. In December, after angrily calling on Dillard’s board to oust Bill Dillard and remove his family from the company’s management, the funds renewed their demand for CDI’s records, particularly those relating to construction work for Dillard’s insiders. Guinee confirms that CDI did such work for Dillard family members, “at cost, no fee,” although he maintains that the amount of money involved was “just pennies,” relative to CDI’s revenues. To the surprise of many in Little Rock, two of the hedge funds also demanded all the records relating to Dillard’s inscrutable restatement of earnings. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?59600-AR-John-W-Glasgow-45-Little-Rock-28-Jan-2008&p=11625909#post11625909


In New Letter, Barington Asks Dillard's for Records, Meeting Minutes
by Lance Turner on Tuesday, Mar. 25, 2008 10:20 am

In a new letter disclosed on Tuesday, Barington Capital Group requested copies of Dillard's Inc.'s books and records so its can talk to Dillard's shareholders about use of corporate assets, compensation and perquisites for executives and other matters.

The move is the latest by the investor firm, which, along with Clinton Group Inc. and certain of its affiliates, represents about 5.6 percent of the department store chain's outstanding Class A common stock of Dillard's.

Barington has been gearing up for a proxy fight. Earlier this month, it asked Dillard's for a detailed list of its shareholders. And it has since nominated four of its representatives to Dillard's board of directors.

Previously, Barington made several overtures to Dillard's seeking a meeting with executives to discuss ways to increase shareholder value. Dillard's has so far refused to meet with the group. Barington has criticized both Dillard's management and its board of directors, saying both have mismanaged the company.

The latest letter, which was dated March 20 but made public in Dillard's filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission here on Tuesday, outlined the purpose of its request:

"The purpose of this demand is to enable Barington and Clinton to investigate and communicate with the company's stockholders regarding matters relating to their mutual interests as stockholders, including, without limitation, the use of corporate assets, the levels and types of compensation, perquisites and benefits provided to directors and executive officers of the company or related parties, the nature of any family, business or personal relationships between the company's executive officers and directors, board oversight and certain decisions by the board or its committees regarding the foregoing matters or otherwise affecting the board, the management or corporate governance of the company or other interests of stockholders."

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 04:17 AM
Among the specific documents Barington wants to receive are those about the board's decsions to "employ, or continue to employ, William Dillard II, Alex Dillard, Mike Dillard and Drue Corbusier as the top executive officers of the company;" documents about services "performed or proposed to be performed by CDI Contractors, Construction Developers Inc. or any other entity affiliated" with Dillard's engaged in the construction business "for or on behalf of any director, executive officer or member of the Dillard family."
William Dillard II, Alex Dillard, Mike Dillard and Drue Corbusier are among the children of Dillard's founder William Dillard, who died in 2002. They all hold executive management positions at the retailer.

CDI Contractors of Little Rock is a construction firm half-owned by Dillard's. The firm built the Clinton Presidential Library, but it also handles construction projects for Dillard's, including building Dillard's stores.

Dillard's connection to CDI has been under scrunity since CDI's chief financial officer, John Glasgow, went missing in January. Last week, Dillard's had to restate some earnings pretaining to CDI.

Barington has pointed out that Dillard's stock price has fallen by about 54 percent from June 30, 2007, through the close of trading on March 18, erasing more than $1.6 billion in shareholder value.

In addition, Dillard's same-store sales growth rate has lagged its peer group by an average of nearly 400 basis points a year over the past five years and the company has not posted an increase in annual same-store sales since 1999.

Barington has also said Dillard's has the third worst corporate governance profile of all the companies in the Standard & Poor's 500 Index, as measured by Institutional Shareholder Services.

Barington has said it thinks if Dillard's was more effectively managed it would be worth substantially more than its current stock price.Barington group is led by CEO James Mitarotonda http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43104/in-new-letter-barington-asks-dillards-for-records-meeting-minutes?page=all

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 04:49 AM
JMO, but from reading, it appears that a huge storm was brewing....

Bill Clark passed away May 15, 2007 ...

HOLY CRAP BATMAN! THE BARINGTON GROUP WAS WANT ALL THE MINUTES TO VARIOUS MEETINGS... And JG new that it wasn't recorded, the accounting practice they were using, and had been since what?? 1996?? It was hitting the fan... Read this letter!! http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/28917/000092242308000325/kl03040_ex99-7.htm

But this ^^ letter was March 2008, after JG went missing Jan 28 2008. Dillards had to know of the storm brewing!! Could be what Freeman was getting at..

So someone who understands this kind of stuff, does this mean or appear that Barington / Clinton Group think the Dillards are doing something .. not right?

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 05:06 AM
Yep, looks like they had been trying to get info since at least June 2007!
Activist Investor Takes Issue With Dillard's; Signs Indicate Upcoming Proxy Battle

by Mark Friedman on Monday, Mar. 3, 2008 12:00 am

At first, James Mitarotonda asked nicely for Dillard's Inc. to change its management.

In a June 28 letter, Mitarotonda asked Dillard's CEO William Dillard for a meeting to discuss several ways to improve the company, including better merchandising and unlocking the value of Dillard's real estate portfolio.

But Dillard didn't even return a call to Mitarotonda, the CEO of Barington Capital Group LP of New York, which represents a group of investors who own more than 5.3 percent of the outstanding Class A common stock of the Little Rock retailer.

After the June letter was ignored, Mitarotonda fired off a letter directly to Dillard's board in August. It was a scathing missive that called Dillard's corporate governance "nothing short of atrocious." The board, too, refused to respond.

On Jan. 29, Mitarotonda wrote the board yet another letter. This one said Dillard's needed to improve its management to increase its shareholder value.

Between June 30 and Jan. 25, Dillard's stock price dropped 52 percent, wiping out more than $1.5 billion in shareholder value, Mitarotonda wrote. During the same period, the S&P Retail Index fell by 23 percent, he also noted. http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43290/activist-investor-takes-issue-with-dillards-signs-indicate-upcoming-proxy-battle?page=1

**^^^ Note Jan 25th date!!! That was FRIDAY! JG missing Jan 28 Monday!!!<< Wasn't Friday (per the ID episode) that JG wife said she and JG had long talk about their "Options" ? Wonder what the Options were??

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 05:17 AM
^^^^^(Mitarotonda is with Barinton) The first public sign that Mita-roton da was furious with the way Dillard's was being operated came in June,(*June 2007) when he wrote the letter asking to talk with Dillard's CEO and chairman, William Dillard II.
But he didn't hear back from Dillard.

Mitarotonda watched the stock price fall. Since reaching $40.56 on May 21, the stock price has slid to around $16.50 as of last week.

Mitarotonda accused Dillard of ruining the business after taking over from his father, William Dillard, who started the company in 1938.

Since William Dillard II received the keys to the company in 1998 from his father, Dillard's market capitalization has fallen from $3.8 billion to $1.9 billion in August 2007, Mitarotonda wrote in the Aug. 30 letter to the board.

Mitarotonda, however, still couldn't get any reaction.

"We believe that the vast value potential of the Company is not being realized," Mitarotonda wrote in his Jan. 29 letter to the board. "In our opinion, if the Company were more effectively managed it would be worth substantially more than its current stock price."

Mitarotonda noted a November 2007 Deutsche Bank report that estimates Dillard's net asset value before taxes to be $59 per share because of its real estate portfolio. Dillard's owns about 75 percent of its 331 stores.

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 09:28 AM
1995 (Fall) JG as comptroller discovered CFO embezzled $1.3 Million, $ was taken from Dillard's accts
Divisions restructured, legal covenants altered, Dillard's control over CDI tightened.

1996 (Spring) Unrecorded meeting between Bill Clark, Bill Dillard, Bill Dillard bro Alex Dillard, John Glasgow and Dillard's CFO James Freeman
per comptroller who replaced JG, agreement concerned profits that each division of CDI could charge Dillard's *this not recorded in minutes

1998 Bill Dillard became CEO over Dillard's

2006 (Dec) Bill Clark finds out he has cancer

2007
May - Bill Clark passes away, William Clark made CEO of CDI

June 28th - James Mitarotonda-Head of Barington Capital Group LP sent Bill Dillard letter, asking for a meeting - Dillard doesn't respond
Aug James Mitarotonda sends letter to Dillard's Board - Board refuses to respond

October (end of) Bill Dillard proposed to William Clark, redistribution of Bill Clark's 50%. <Per Melinda Glasgow>Dillard would allow William Clark to buy 30% and remaining 20% split between JG and 9 other executives

Nov (early) JG begins working on CDI end of the redistribution deal

Dec 27th Per JG date book, meeting at Bill Dillard's home. **note: JG got the $300K bonus 4 wks before he disappeared, which be Dec 31-could that have been what the Dec 27th meeting JG had at Bill Dillard home?

2008
Jan 2 <per Melinda G> JG arrived home shaken. Dillard's CFO James Freeman showed up that afternoon at JG office, wanting financials for CDI, questioning Bonuses and fees CDI charging Dillards

*date unknown- shortly after Jan 2,) JG went to Colorado for a week.. When he got back, he was surprised to find that Freeman had sent three Dillard’s auditors to comb through CDI’s records. As his staff scurried to retrieve files and answer the auditors’ questions, Glasgow grew increasingly disturbed. He told his wife that he didn’t know what they were looking for

Jan 18th <per Melinda, she came home fm wk to find JG near tears, he told her> Freeman had called him that morning. Whether he actually accused Glasgow of fraud isn’t clear, but, at some point, Freeman had brought up Enron. Glasgow said Freeman told him: “You know the CFO there? He lost his license; he went to prison. Well, that’s what’s going to happen to you.” Glasgow immediately went to see William Clark and told him that the stock-redistribution plan had to be called off. Summoned by an alarmed call from Clark, Bill Dillard soon showed up at CDI’s offices with James Freeman. Glasgow told his wife that after denying he had ever threatened Glasgow with prison—“Oh now, John, you know I didn’t say exactly that”—Freeman had gone on the attack. As one CDI executive would describe it, Freeman had “hauled off on John.” According to Melinda, Glasgow said Freeman again challenged the bonuses given to CDI executives as well as the fees that CDI was charging on Dillard’s jobs. Exactly what else was said is unclear—there may have been issues Glasgow did not reveal—but he said he repeatedly pointed out that nearly everything had been agreed upon by Clark and Dillard in 1996, but suddenly no one seemed to remember that. Glasgow was shocked.

Jan 19th- JG told best friend Mitch Chandler that he had never been so embarrassed and humiliated, **JG CALLS HIS ATTORNEY, WHO WAS ALSO THE LAWYER FOR CDI, AND WHOSE FIRM REPRESENTED DILLARD'S... Apparently concerned that he might somehow be set up for some kind of a fall, Glasgow called his attorney, who was also the lawyer for CDI and whose firm represented Dillard’s. Counseled to simply “keep your head down, give them what they want,” That night after auditors left, JG drove back to his office and put a tap on his office landline phone.

*some co workers stated that JG was more relaxed this week

Jan 24th JG had Mitch Chandler come over and they worked 4 hrs on letter that JG would give to William Clark, on what JG think Clark should say to Bill Dillard

Jan 25th Friday morning Glasgow emailed his Mitch the draft of what turned out to be a letter to William Clark, telling him what to say to Bill Dillard.
Glasgow gave his draft to Clark on Friday afternoon. Per Melinda in the ID episode, she and JG talked Friday night and went over all their options.

Jan 26th Saturday, JG went to work, as he’d been doing for weeks in order to prepare the stock-redistribution plan. There he ran into William Clark, who told him that he’d just personally delivered Glasgow’s letter to Bill Dillard at his home. Melinda said JG barely mentioned it when he got home

Jan 27 Sunday Per Melinda, JG seemed fine, went to office, no one else was at work. Glasgow’s electronic-key-card record shows that he went in and out several times, by CDI’s side door, for what appear to have been cigarette breaks.

Around noon, he went home for lunch.

Shortly after 2 p.m., Melinda found Glasgow lying on the couch in the den “just kind of staring.” He seemed “distant” and “in deep thought,” but it didn’t strike her as unusual because, she says, “John lived in deep thought a lot.” But that moment is the one that bothers her. “I sensed that he was disturbed, you know,” she says, her voice wavering. “Clearly I didn’t think…”

Around 230pm JG returned to CDI

4:05, according to his key card, he left and was gone for exactly 30 minutes. Where he went, no one knows; but he was back home by 5 p.m., as promised.

Shortly after 9 p.m., as he often did, John settled into his favorite armchair, in front of the TV, with his cat, Simon, on his lap

10:30 p.m., ready to go to bed, Melinda shook John gently, but he didn’t wake up, so she let him sleep

Jan 28th

515am neighbor sees JG veh going down road from his home *did not see driver same time phone pings power turned on

722am phone pings off tower that covers between Lake Conway and Wye Mountain

1140am coworker called JG phone, no answer but ping signal bounced off tower located on Bartlett Rd, on Petit Jean Mountain
**Bartlett Rd is 3 miles from Mathers Lodge 1069 Petit Jean Mtn Rd per Google, and Red Bluff Drive shows to be between Bartlett Rd / Mathers Lodge**

230pm JG office calls Melinda, she calls Roger Glasgow and Mitch they go to Glasgow home. Police are contacted, missing person report made. Late Monday night, after getting a frantic call from William Clark, Scott Ford, the CEO of Little Rock-based Alltel Communications, would order a search of Alltel’s records and track the phone to Petit Jean Mountain

Jan 29th
JG veh is located at Mathers Lodge

Jan. 29, Mitarotonda wrote the board yet another letter. This one said Dillard's needed to improve its management to increase its shareholder value.
Between June 30 and Jan. 25, Dillard's stock price dropped 52 percent, wiping out more than $1.5 billion in shareholder value, Mitarotonda wrote. During the same period, the S&P Retail Index fell by 23 percent, he also noted

Feb
Less than a week after Glasgow disappeared, there was a new CFO at CDI—one of the three Dillard’s auditors that Freeman had sent to examine CDI’s books.

March 2008
In a cryptic note in its 10-K for the 2007 fiscal year, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission in March, Dillard’s informed its stockholders that it was restating its earnings by $10.1 million because of an “error” in CDI’s accounting. While reviewing CDI’s books, Dillard’s said, it had “discovered that CDI had recorded profit on the company’s construction projects in excess of what CDI had previously reported.”

March 20th
Barington Capital and Clinton Group first demands for Retailer Dillard's and CDI Inspection of Books and Records, copies of all board and committee meetings. Barington has pointed out that Dillard's stock price has fallen by about 54 percent from June 30, 2007, through the close of trading on March 18, erasing more than $1.6 billion in shareholder value. http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/28917/000092242308000325/kl03040_ex99-7.htm

April
Dillard's announced that it had retained Stephens Inc. of Little Rock to "assist it in evaluating its options" for its 50 percent of CDI. (Warren Stephens, owner of Stephens Inc., is a member of the Dillard's board of directors, part of a two-thirds majority elected directly by members of the Dillard family.)

July

07/18/2008
11:59 PM PETITION
Entry: PETITION FOR DETERMINATION OF LEGAL INCAPACITY

07/21/2008
11:59 PM ORDER OTHER
Entry: ORDER DECLARING JOHN WILLIAM GLASGOW LEGALLY INCAPACITATED AND GRANTING MELINDA K. GLASGOW TO ASSUME HER DUTIES AS ATTORNEY IN FACT THAT WAS FILED ON 7/15/1996 27/556

Aug 29
Dillard's buys William Clarks 50% for $9.8 million

Sept
Clark and 11 other CDI managers – including Danny Bennett, Shannon Earls and John Johnson – made an offer to buy CDI. But they did not advance to a second round of negotiations in September, Clark said. Two other prospective buyers did. But their bids were "I guess lower than Dillard's wanted," he said. Dillard's Inc. – led by Bill Clark's best friend, William Dillard II – sent word through Stephens' representatives that it would entertain one more offer from the CDI managers.

Dec
On Friday, Dec. 19, Clark said, "We put in an offer we could finance and service. And they said no." The call came from Stephens' COO Curt Bradbury.

2009
Jan 6 Clark resigned as CEO, the next day, Dillard's promoted Lloyd Garrison, president of CDI and one of the first employees Bill Clark hired in 1987, as his successor

justathought
03-28-2015, 10:18 AM
--Point of clarification, to respond to a response to my post above, didn't write that the local said JG had returned the $200,000/$300,000 bonus, I wrote that the local said he had been asked to. That was a piece of information, which may or may not be accurate, I had not seen such information before but it makes sense with all of this additional information being posted...great research, Arkansas mimi.
--What I'm getting out of the stories posted above, is that a proxy fight for control of Dillards was accelerating. Dillards needed to show more profit than it was. Big box store retailing has fallen on hard times in recent years, especially more recent years. The shareholders were not happy. Dillards wanted to show higher earnings as that would shore up its position. The quick and dirty way to do this was monkey around with the CDI unwritten "agreement." I don't believe the oversight of a "written agreement" in the minutes was an accident. FWIW in my experience, "unwritten" happens more than it should, and frequently comes back to bite the one who doesn't have the power to insist on written in the butt. JG didn't have the power but he thought he was working for honorable men. From the quotes from the former comptroller who worked with JG, he said the lack of the written agreement was JG's big problem or something like that. Therefore, with Dillards ultimate motive, taking the tactic that the "agreement" didn't exist,, JG could/would have been made a scapegoat. Subsequently, after he disappeared, to blame him would seem unseemly if there was a more delicate way around the "problem" which was employed according to the information above. They knew JG hadn't embezzled or anything else nefarious which they emphatically stated later, better for the image that way. Because of the pressure, I feel in my heart on that Saturday and Sunday, JG would have been making copies, transferring to a disc (I can't recall if flash drives were around then), anything he could to protect himself. Any reasonable person would have been. If, and this is a pure speculation: How would he know if Clark had really delivered the letter? His wife said he was resting on the couch in deep thought for awhile on Sunday afternoon. Maybe he had come to ponder if Clark was in on it, i.e. Clark was in the meeting when the existence of the 1996 meeting was denied according to one of the links above. If JG went to Dillard in that unexplained 30 minutes on Sunday with his proof. And then........? My gut tells me the business end of this played out just like Dillards wanted all along....i.e. the "partners" couldn't make a successful bid. Dillards took over the company. Involved were power players, Dillards and Stephens. I'm an Arkansas native and over the years, I have heard many stories about the Dillards and the Stephens so the business end of this doesn't surprise me. My opinion is the disappearance of JG was a complication. At this point I don't know if homicide, suicide or accidental death (for some reason I am somewhat leaning to the latter, based on the terrain and the stress.) But I do think JG planned to leave his job and he planned to protect himself with SEC or whatever. Wish we knew about those car keys.
Just my opinion, from a business major who has familiarity with business on a much smaller scale and follows happenings in her native state

justathought
03-28-2015, 10:56 AM
1140am coworker called JG phone, no answer but ping signal bounced off tower located on Bartlett Rd, on Petit Jean Mountain
**Bartlett Rd is 3 miles from Mathers Lodge 1069 Petit Jean Mtn Rd per Google, and Red Bluff Drive shows to be between Bartlett Rd / Mathers Lodge**

Interesting. When I was at Petit Jean two/three years ago, my ATT phone would barely work at Mather's Lodge. Had to go outside and just move all around and try to hold a connection Have no idea what tower. Given the valley, and the mountain rising opposite Mather, one would think he would have been more on Bartlett/Red Bluff drive side when the phone pinged whether he was ascending the mountain in the car or out of it. And of course, we don't know what time the car got there.
The one thing I haven't reached a good conclusion about is if whatever happened, happened off Red Bluff Drive why wasn't the car parked in one of the areas on that side. No matter how it was done, it would be a long, and strenuous if on the trails hike to the Red Bluff Side. (by the road mostly just long but it seems like someone would have noticed him).
But if he was on the Red Bluff side, how did the car get to Mather? Not enough information to draw conclusions.

Adding: just looked at the map. Interesting the air strip and WinRock farms are on that side.
The retreat center would be up to the left.

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 11:29 AM
@justathought,
I too am not sure to think.
I was wondering earlier if William Clark gave the letter to Bill Dillard. Oh and William Dillard wasn't in the unrecorded meeting it was his father Bill Clark. (according to all I can find) Also, William Dillard allegedly said he gave the letter to Bill Dillard, personally delivered to his home. I got to wondering, if that is what JG wanted him to do (give letter) or to say those things to Dillard in person... JG per the article gave Clark the draft on Friday afternoon. And Clark del Saturday. That could be why he didn't have much to say about it on Saturday night, and was deep in thought on Sunday afternoon.... Did William Clark print the email or copy it.. did he take responsibility for it or say JG did it?

This really concerned me too... Jan 19th " Apparently concerned that he might somehow be set up for some kind of a fall, Glasgow called his attorney, who was also the lawyer for CDI and whose firm represented Dillard’s. Counseled to simply “keep your head down, give them what they want,” That night after auditors left, JG drove back to his office and put a tap on his office landline phone"

I found this, from JG sister
snip:
Missing business exec is UCA alum

By DANIEL DOYLE
LOG CABIN STAFF WRITER
Glasgow's cell phone pinged once off a cell phone tower in Morrilton on the morning of Jan. 28, and once off the Winrock International tower on Petit Jean Mountain on Tuesday morning. Glasgow's phone and computer were later found in his car on the mountain, though Glasgow wasn't.

sad >>> Workers from The Texas EquuSearch Mounted Search and Recovery Team, a volunteer horse-mounted search foundation for lost and missing persons, have volunteered their services in finding Glasgow since last week. Donna Jean Glasgow says EquuSearch workers are nearly certain her brother isn't on the mountain.

"That mountain has been searched so thoroughly, they say they're 99.99-percent confident that he is not up there," said Donna Jean, who commended CDI staff, her sister-in-law Melinda Glasgow and brother Roger Glasgow for directing the ceaseless search.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_14275565063708&drKey=1081&libId=i7t46ryu010004ma000DAidfyj4td&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fz10.invisionfree.com%2Fusedtobedo e%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D28831&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecabin.net%2Fstories%2F0212 08%2Floc_0212020001.shtml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26r ct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D9%2 6ved%3D0CFAQFjAI%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fz10.in visionfree.com%252Fusedtobedoe%252Findex.php%253Fs howtopic%253D28831%26ei%3D8rkWVbmXM8GpgwTFv4TIDA%2 6usg%3DAFQjCNFwjfW_iR0tXfItuidNMNUtL6Gl9A&title=Porchlight%20International%20for%20the%20Mis sing%20%26%20Unidentified%20-%3E%20Glasgow%2C%20John%2001%2F29%2F2008&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecabin.net%2Fstories%2F0212 08%2Floc_0212020001.shtml

arkansasmimi
03-28-2015, 04:54 PM
On the coffee - authorities checked surveillance videos from businesses from Little Rock to Petit Jean looking for JG - they didn't find him on any, so I don't think he stopped for coffee.

And on my Dr. Pepper - I have never missed drinking my daily Dr. Pepper except when I was hospitalized & even then I *tried* to get one...LOL

JG's not making coffee is like a smoker not having that first morning cigarette. It's just really really hard for me to believe.

Hey.... JG was a smoker, I haven't seen anything about finding cigs, in car or left at home or so forth... rereading... carry on lol

MrsPC
03-28-2015, 08:04 PM
Hey.... JG was a smoker, I haven't seen anything about finding cigs, in car or left at home or so forth... rereading... carry on lol

yep, we also haven't heard anything about his vehicle keys or wedding ring being found with his remains. That's really puzzling to me.

justathought
03-28-2015, 11:17 PM
Then it was Glasgows word against Dillard's as to what the agreement was . Hmmmmm The call to the "connected " attorney bothers me too. I can see initially doing that but then on reflection thinking he needed his own guy . Wonder if he talked to his brother . Was the tap still on the phone or did he take it off before going home that Sunday? Sure would like to hear what searchers who searched that side of the mountain think . I just don't think they skipped it due to the BS trail and the two overlooks being near . Wouldn't there have been a lighter too ? Our list is growing .

J. J. in Phila
03-29-2015, 12:14 AM
I rember hearing that no flights went out of the airstrip.

arkansasmimi
03-29-2015, 03:29 AM
There are a lot of people with powerful connections, << my fear for finding the truth.

arkansasmimi
03-29-2015, 06:45 PM
I rember hearing that no flights went out of the airstrip.

I just watched the ID episode again .. at the 30:30 mark the LEO speaks about the private air strip. He states they spoke with people and they found no record or recollections of flights coming in or leaving. There are a lot of touch and goes, and no way to rule that for sure. Its a privately owed airstrip, and not manned on a regular basis. There is a chance that someone landed and no one knew about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xTwS3QBCI

arkansasmimi
03-29-2015, 07:31 PM
I just watched the ID Disappeared episode again while taking a break lol. This was first aired on Nov 29, 2010 (got from the Petition to have JG declared dead). Strange to me the petition was filed on Feb 2, 2011 just a few months after the first airing.

Knowing what I have read from articles at the beginning of JG disappearance and prior, this time I watched it, more things stood out. Clearly we all know these shows are edited for the makers agenda and viewership.

@13:27 it states that Freeman called JG 8 days prior to his disappearance... but we know from other sources (one being posted February 11, 2009, 8:00am EST | Updated: August 4, 2012, 1:17pm EDT http://upstart.bizjournals.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing.html?page=all) that Freeman called JG office on Jan 18th (10 days not 8 as the episode states) Also it stated here that JG starts recording his calls on Jan 22 and tells Melinda its to protect himself... **I have 19th on my timeline .. that he calls his attorney and starts recording, which I got from the linked 2009 /2012 updated article. 22nd does make more sense it was a Tues.

17:07 JG cell connected to cell tower in LR at 5:15, and connects to various towers thru electronic pings last was miles away from LR **where were the other pings?

18:52 Roger with a friend, says he looks over and says if JG is walking it off he is over at Petit Jean, then says they recd a call from an employee at Mathers Lodge that JG car is there.

19:45 Melinda says its JG way to get back into nature and walk it off

20:25 Wm Clark thinks its strange all of the work stuff is together in one place, Melinda thinks he through with this job

29:40 Roger says that if went straight to Petit Jean it would be 1 hr 15 min but it took 2 hr 15. ** again where were prev pings prior to the last ping being at 7:15<per the Petition filed, which stated from records recd on Jan 29th

@2140 Melinda states the night after Freeman called JG they paced around the kitchen talking about their options *also I was incorrect on the date that Melinda said she and JG went over their options. It WAS NOT THE 25th as I incorrectly stated in my timeline

33:41 the tape was confiscated from JG phone.. *** so was the devise was till on the phone? No other threating calls were said to be on the tape. could someone have known that the phone was tapped? Could other people have had access to JG office and saw it? Could they think he had other tapes if so?

arkansasmimi
03-29-2015, 08:42 PM
I will assume that the tower that the phone pinged on at Petit jean at 7:15am and at 11:40am when the coworker called but no answer and they got a ping. The only mention of this 1140 is in the 2009 article I prev posted also I just realized the article states it was a couple weeks later that they recd the tourist photo:

A Year Later: Family Believes John Glasgow's Dead
by Gwen Moritz on Monday, Jan. 26, 2009 12:00 am
<snip>
A coworker at CDI tried to call Glasgow at 11:40 a.m. The call was not answered, but the signal bounced off the Bartlett Road tower on Petit Jean, so his phone was there by then. A tourist's photo, received a couple of weeks later, showed the Volvo was in the lodge parking lot by 4:30 p.m.; the cell phone was in the unlocked car when it was discovered the day after Glasgow left home.

#5 from the Petition clearly states as many of the early media reports that the triangulation of the tower were initially off, so why did Roger say in the ID episode that he looked over and saw Petit Jean and said if thought they should go look there??? Weird.

#6 says later on the 29th they recd a call that JG car was at Mathers Lodge.
*I found article that said "A park ranger at Mather Lodge on Petit Jean told police that Glasgow's car appeared in the parking lot there between noon and 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday."
Wm Clark said to Fox16 that he remembered JG stepson saying that that Mathers Lodge would be place to look.

WHY all the variation of the story, all diff from same people. Truly odd.

#15 I also thought the investigators looked longer, but according to the Petition, the 2 investigators were on case from Feb to May 2008. Which is good because it was still fresh case.

#13**** really get to me, because of the tensions everyone knew was going on at work... "No outgoing or incoming calls on his cell phone that were not recognized. No emails or other communication on his laptop or home computer except from known family and friends." KNOWN? Heck he knew the people that were giving him grief didn't he? The email or other communication... except from known family and friends... I sure he had more than 1 email...

And why did they do away with the Finding John website so soon? I keep going back to the ladies that were kidnapped many years ago and Thank God found alive. Why the rush to declare him dead? We know now that he is dead, but how or how long, since he didn't have a watch on that would maybe have hit/broke and stopped at a certain time no way of knowing for sure. Wife already had power of attorney over financial affairs... and if he was declared dead in 2011 why did they just last year put up a memorial marker?

arkansasmimi
03-29-2015, 08:49 PM
I located the Dillard's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year Reports from March 2008 http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20080319006298/en/Dillards-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-Fiscal-Year-Results#.VRh4dVJTFjo

It is the full financial report and here is the restatement part:

Restatement

The Company owns a 50% interest in CDI Contractors LLC (“CDI”), a construction company which does construction work for the Company and for third parties. The Company accounts for its interest in CDI by the equity method. In connection with a potential transfer of the other 50% shareholder’s interest, the Company performed a review of CDI’s internal financial records. During this review process, the Company discovered that CDI had recorded profit on the Company’s construction projects in excess of what CDI had previously reported to the Company and which, therefore, were not properly eliminated.

Because the cumulative effect of this error would be material to operating results for 2007, the Company has elected to restate its opening retained earnings as of January 29, 2005 in order to eliminate the cumulative effect of this profit from its financial statements for all periods prior to the fiscal year ended January 28, 2006. Opening retained earnings was reduced by $7.1 million; the deferred income tax balances were reduced by $4.1 million and the carrying amount of property, plant & equipment was reduced by $11.2 million. The effects of this error on the Company’s consolidated statements of operations for the fiscal years ended January 28, 2006 and February 3, 2007, respectively, were not material and were recorded in 2007.