Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #3

[nanandjim]

SeriouslySearching, I agree with you 100% about his target being college girls due to their recklessness.
It is pure speculation on my part, and I said it in an earlier post, but I think that the perp is also targeting girls who are out of his league. I think that he is familiar with the area because he is a local, and is able to blend with the people in the area. However I don't think he is a student, possibly never was and he resents the fact that the young women that he is targeting have everything going for them while he is trapped by his own life. He got someone pregnant and is stuck with her and covets the life and the beauty that he has no chance at having....

I could be completely wrong, but that is what I think happened with Edwin Hall. He was a nobody who put on a nice show of being a loving family guy, and chanced upon a beautiful young woman that most likely would never give him the time of day, and took everything that she had that he would never have.
I am inclined that you have this guy pegged to the "tee."

[InterestedNHelping]

New information in the news about the DNA backlog, how it happened and all the people helping to get it fixed... so as to help in the Brianna Denison case...news story at link

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15404541.html

[concernedperson]

New information in the news about the DNA backlog, how it happened and all the people helping to get it fixed... so as to help in the Brianna Denison case...news story at link

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15404541.html

It is sad that the local LE have to rely on private donations to see this case and others through with resolving a major problem in their area. This country spends so much money on crap that we can't even find our own missing. I applaud the people who are helping, this is a saving grace for so many ineptitudes. Not local LE who don't have the funds ( I wonder why with this being a major gambling community) but apparently LE don't get proceeds from the casinos or the tax base precludes this happening.. We may have to check on where these gambling proceeds go and why the casinos don't help.

You would think with all the money being made that one of them would step up. But, to my knowledge none of them have helped in any way shape or form. Folks, consider this as a vacation point. Maybe, it is not a good place to spend money when they don't care about community.

[LillyRush]

Bindi means Girl in Aborigine. Or at least that's what I've read about the meaning behind the name of the crocodile hunter's daughter, named Bindi.

I hope they are checking out all the angles of the recent case in SLC to see if there are any connections. That would really be horrible if he has already moved on to another area, but if they communicate between LE departments maybe they can catch him now.

[guestwriter]

It said in the morning news that the victim in Salt Lake City had a husband based on people they questioned nearby who recognized the victim....

[StillHoping]

It said in the morning news that the victim in Salt Lake City had a husband based on people they questioned nearby who recognized the victim....

I know, I was so glad to hear that. Glad it doesn't seem to be Bri. But someone is missing her and will be getting some bad news. :(

[StillHoping]

So happy to say this is O/T.....
The Salt Lake City UID has been Identified and Husband has been arrested for her murder. :mad:

[SeriouslySearching]

Bindi means Girl in Aborigine. Or at least that's what I've read about the meaning behind the name of the crocodile hunter's daughter, named Bindi.

Technically, it means "young girl". I read a lot of interviews and saw her on LKL. I think she is adorable. :)

[SeriouslySearching]

Concerned, the people in Reno make money by making the illegal legal. Law enforcement isn't as high up on the list as their Advertising budget for Tourism (wonder what that $ amount is?!). They want LE to step up to the plate when they are in the spotlight for a case like this, but look the other way when tourists are partying their @sses off...such as the 600 kids who had hotel rooms and were providing drinks to underage college students! Can't have it both ways.

[adnoid]

Concerned, the people in Reno make money by making the illegal legal. Law enforcement isn't as high up on the list as their Advertising budget for Tourism (wonder what that $ amount is?!). They want LE to step up to the plate when they are in the spotlight for a case like this, but look the other way when tourists are partying their @sses off...such as the 600 kids who had hotel rooms and were providing drinks to underage college students! Can't have it both ways.

Is that how we are? Actually, I have no idea what you're trying to say, but it doesn't really matter to me.

[JDB]

Concerned, the people in Reno make money by making the illegal legal. Law enforcement isn't as high up on the list as their Advertising budget for Tourism (wonder what that $ amount is?!). They want LE to step up to the plate when they are in the spotlight for a case like this, but look the other way when tourists are partying their @sses off...such as the 600 kids who had hotel rooms and were providing drinks to underage college students! Can't have it both ways.

Do you have a link on this? I have never heard or read about this one.AN I have seen you being really critical about any LE involved in any case. Have you ever thought how hard it is to be in the LE?They do have rules and procedures that must be followed.Other wise everyone would jump all over them because they did not follow protocal and a crimnal got away with something because they did not follow the procedures.

[SeriouslySearching]

I will find the link for you, JDB. This is the party the girls were attending at the Sands Hotel before Brianna went missing. Being the girls were there, underage, and admittedly drinking...I would say it is an issue for LE.

Following procedure includes arresting people who give underage college students alcohol...doesn't it?! Last I heard, this was definite protocal. We can see it wasn't followed in this particular case. IMO

[JDB]

I will find the link for you, JDB. This is the party the girls were attending at the Sands Hotel before Brianna went missing. Being the girls were there, underage, and admittedly drinking...I would say it is an issue for LE.

Following procedure includes arresting people who give underage college students alcohol...doesn't it?! Last I heard, this was definite protocal. We can see it wasn't followed in this particular case. IMO

Are you sure the LE knew what was going on when it is happening? Or only after she went missing ?If after the fact it was to late for the LE to do anything. But I know just because we do not hear everything that the LE is doing everything the can to break this case.

Also what do you mean by making Illeagl Legal?

[Leviosa]

Adnoid, InterestedNhelping, S.S., SuziQ, nanandjim, 10EC, and gang:

Sorry it's taken a bit for me to reply. Although I did find Brian's website and other links really quite interesting. As a non-flying pilot, I've been on that runway from Google Earth for about a week maybe more.

However, "G Street and 9th" may indeed be of significance. Always working on finding Brianna. CHEERS gang!

[LionRun]

I support law enforcement, and while no individual or department is perfect, I see lots that they do correctly that saves lives and helps to convict the slime that walks our earth. I heard for example that many of the officers came back on their own time to help search for Brianna. Most law enforcement officers are in it for the right reasons and do a good job.

Personally, I think that our society has more needs today than any law enforcement agencies can help meet alone. I don't know what all of the answers are, but focusing on how to help and to effectively help keep our people safe is what I focus on. Sorry if this is OT, but it bothers me to hear so much negativity about law enforcement officers when most of them have good work ethic and truly care.

Lion

[Leviosa]

Lion, et, al:

It's just as you've stated…". Most law enforcement officers are in it for the right reasons and do a good job." Each and every sector of industry are going to have their "few bad apples" however, I am not saying this is relation to anything the RPD has done, simply because I don't know what they've done.

Yet, I do share your views vis-a-vie LE. I believe that SuziQ brought forth one of the more insightful notions on this entire thread: All too often our legislators are making decisions that affect every aspect of life regardless of budgeting or even meaningful planning. (Think of a fence being built somewhere between the USA and Mexico, that's a small example).

Finally, I don't believe anyone here in Brianna's thread or at WS's that really feel negatively about LE; it is important to note that we are all entitled to our own…

Lev :)

[nanandjim]

Adnoid, InterestedNhelping, S.S., SuziQ, nanandjim, 10EC, and gang:

Sorry it's taken a bit for me to reply. Although I did find Brian's website and other links really quite interesting. As a non-flying pilot, I've been on that runway from Google Earth for about a week maybe more.

However, "G Street and 9th" may indeed be of significance. Always working on finding Brianna. CHEERS gang!
Hey there, Leviosa. :blowkiss: I'm not a big believer in Brian. :o I hope and pray that Brianna is found soon. Of course, I don't think that the outlook looks good for her. :(

[adnoid]

...However, "G Street and 9th" may indeed be of significance. Always working on finding Brianna. CHEERS gang!...

I went by Ninth and G this afternoon and took a couple pictures, also went to both ends of Runway 7/25 and took a couple more pictures. I'll post them as soon as I can, but I didn't see anything remarkable. No storage containers, for instance.

[SeriouslySearching]

Are you sure the LE knew what was going on when it is happening? Or only after she went missing ?If after the fact it was to late for the LE to do anything. But I know just because we do not hear everything that the LE is doing everything the can to break this case.

Also what do you mean by making Illeagl Legal?Since the event was well advertised, I am certain LE DID know it was going on before Brianna went missing. It was absolutely NOT too late for LE to have checked for underage drinking at the Sands. :mad:

I mean in the state of Nevada...Gambling and Prostitution are legal, but other places consider these illegal activities. People specifically travel to Nevada to engage in these activities. So yes...Nevada makes the illegal legal.

[LillyRush]

Seriously Searching, I see what you're saying. But isn't it possible that Brianna and her friends had fake ids? Of course that's only speculation, but they seemed to do a lot of partying and I would imagine that they did. The SWAT event itself may have even been 21 and older. I don't know for sure. Also, I thought it was Las Vegas that dabbled in the illegal activities not Reno...?

[InterestedNHelping]

Thanks Adnoid, Did you happen to look for the suspect vehicle? Would be glad to see the pics, thank you so much. Be safe...

[InterestedNHelping]

I think that even if the suspect lives in that area, it is highly likely he is not there right now, but stranger things have happened, and perps aren't always the brightest

[JDB]

Since the event was well advertised, I am certain LE DID know it was going on before Brianna went missing. It was absolutely NOT too late for LE to have checked for underage drinking at the Sands. :mad:

I mean in the state of Nevada...Gambling and Prostitution are legal, but other places consider these illegal activities. People specifically travel to Nevada to engage in these activities. So yes...Nevada makes the illegal legal.

AHHH How many states now allow Indian casinos? So I guess Calif and Az for two now make illeagl legal. OK so underage drinking for now on needs to be checked before murders or rapes or robberies? Now I get it.

[SeriouslySearching]

JDB, It has only been recently that our state allowed Indian Casinos and a lottery here. Vegas and Reno were the places people traveled to take part in what was definitely illegal here.

However, you missed my entire point as usual. :rolleyes:

[adnoid]

Thanks Adnoid, Did you happen to look for the suspect vehicle? Would be glad to see the pics, thank you so much. Be safe...

OK, here's where I went:

Where 9th and G streets meet (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=9th+St+and+g+St,+reno,+nv&sll=39.538817,-119.780996&sspn=0.011716,0.018046&ie=UTF8&ll=39.538535,-119.780695&spn=0.011716,0.018046&z=16&om=0)

First picture - I'm parked on G street pointed West, the change from 9th to G occurs about at the crosswalk:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5083.jpg

Second Picture: I'm parked on 9th street pointed East:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5086.jpg

The next three pictures are at the departure end of Runway 25 - see map:

Where I was parked (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Gentry+Way+%26+Edsall+St,+Reno,+Washoe,+Nevada+8 9502,+United+States&sll=39.494719,-119.782729&sspn=0.001465,0.002256&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,39.494950,-119.782300&ll=39.49495,-119.7823&spn=0.005862,0.009023&t=h&z=17&om=0)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5087.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5088.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5089.jpg

The last two pictures are from the approach end of Runway 25:

Where I was parked (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=4410+longley+lane,+reno,+nv&sll=39.494487,-119.754775&sspn=0.011723,0.018046&ie=UTF8&ll=39.495729,-119.753916&spn=0.011723,0.018046&t=h&z=16&om=0)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5090.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5091.jpg

As far as the vehicles, an extended cab truck describes about 25% of the vehicles I see every day. It snows here, and we've got to get around - here is a picture from Friday of my drive over to a co-worker's house:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/IMG_0139.jpg

Of course I looked around but didn't see anything suspicious. And I'm safe, thanks!

[JDB]

JDB, It has only been recently that our state allowed Indian Casinos and a lottery here. Vegas and Reno were the places people traveled to take part in what was definitely illegal here.

However, you missed my entire point as usual. :rolleyes:+
No I did not miss your point.just because Nev. laws were diffrent then other states does not make the illegal in Nev.And what you are saying is the LE should concentrate on underage drinking? That goes on in all 50 states all the time.

[SuziQ]

Adnoid, wow! What a sleuther you are! Thank you, and I AM glad you are safe. That road to your co-workers house gives a good idea the difficulty in doing searches. What were you're overall impressions and thoughts as you traveled around? Besides "I hope I don't get stuck on that Fricken road!"

[murdershewrote]

well, all is quiet now, but we are approaching the time of month when the perp has struck before. We'll see in the next week to 10 days if he dares to come out again.

[SuziQ]

Maybe they have nothing new to report, but LE has been very very quiet. No more pleading for info, etc. I hope that means they have a solid lead and are investigating.

[adnoid]

Adnoid, wow! What a sleuther you are! Thank you, and I AM glad you are safe. That road to your co-workers house gives a good idea the difficulty in doing searches. What were you're overall impressions and thoughts as you traveled around? Besides "I hope I don't get stuck on that Fricken road!"

Here's about where I was when I took that picture - of course (make sure the satellite view is showing) the picture on the map was taken when there was no snow on the ground:

Rock Farm Road (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&q=melarkey+way,+reno,+nv&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&ll=39.393108,-119.82985&spn=0.002935,0.004511&t=h&z=18&om=0)

But if you zoom out you can get an idea how the town is situated in relation to the surrounding mountains and open areas. I live on the south end of town, pretty much the opposite end of town from where Brianna was taken. Here's a map showing about where I live (A) (I'm not giving out my address, obviously, due to weirdos) and where Brianna was abducted (B):

Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=curti+ranch+road+%26+equestrian,+reno,+nv&daddr=1395+mackay,+reno,+nv&sll=39.523111,-119.804535&sspn=0.093749,0.144367&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=12&om=0)

You can also see where the airport is in relation to town - the route the map shows (if I did it right) goes by the departure end of Runway 25, the first end of the runway I visited in the pictures above.

Overall impressions? I moved here from California in 1995, I lived in Incline Village then moved to Reno when the constant driveway plowing got tiresome, so I know the area pretty well. I don't want to sound like a snob, but the area around where Brianna was abducted is not where I spend a lot of my time. I go to functions downtown and at the University, but 4th Street East of downtown and the surrounding area is where the meth addicts and streetwalkers hang out.

[philamena]

Adnoid,
Thank you for your detective work.
The pictures made me realize all the more that late at night/early morning, it's likely that few cars and or trucks were on the roads. And if the perp and Brianna were see, people probably thought they were people going to and from work.

Has the desert area been searched? Looks like a huge area.

[norcalgirl03]

Hi all,
I've lurked on this case since the beginning as it's been reported in our local paper...in CA. Apparently while it hasn't been reported widely, she grew up in Mendocino which is a tiny costal community in Northern CA. There was an updated article today regarding the search efforts. Good to see that someone is still reporting about it!

"More than 100 volunteers Sunday combed areas around Reno for any sign of Brianna Denison, who police say was abducted Jan. 20 by a serial rapist linked by DNA to a string of attacks near the University of Nevada, Reno campus." More at link...http://tinyurl.com/2xho2e

(It's the first time I've done a tinyurl, so I hope it comes out ok)

[Rick777]

Hi all,
I've lurked on this case since the beginning as it's been reported in our local paper...in CA. Apparently while it hasn't been reported widely, she grew up in Mendocino which is a tiny costal community in Northern CA. There was an updated article today regarding the search efforts. Good to see that someone is still reporting about it!

"More than 100 volunteers Sunday combed areas around Reno for any sign of Brianna Denison, who police say was abducted Jan. 20 by a serial rapist linked by DNA to a string of attacks near the University of Nevada, Reno campus." More at link...http://tinyurl.com/2xho2e

(It's the first time I've done a tinyurl, so I hope it comes out ok)


Thanks for the info, and welcome here! :)

[murdershewrote]

it's good to hear that there are still searches going on....with all the politics and Holloway case, there just hasn't been any news on Brianna at all.

[norcalgirl03]

I also thought it was interesting that nobody else brought it up here. On page 2 of this article (originally linked in post #49 by Reannan on this thread):

"About a month later, another woman was attacked just blocks away. In that instance, the woman was abducted, brought to another house, raped, and then returned home."

The reporter was talking about the victim who gave the detailed description of the truck. Did anyone else notice this? Do you think it's a case of bad reporting or leak of information? I've included the link to the article if anyone wants to check it out again.

http://tinyurl.com/2nt3bn

[murdershewrote]

sounds like bad reporting to me...I believe the woman said she was in the truck the whole time.

[adnoid]

Has the dessert area been searched? Looks like a huge area.

It's a huge desert - and the mountains are pretty empty, too. You can leave Reno in pretty much any direction and be completely alone and away from civilization in under an hour, in some directions half that time.

[newshound81]

Hi everyone -

I just checked in on Brianna's Web site for the first time in a while - it says that she has a nose piercing. I had wondered that looking at some of her pics, but thought it was tiny enough to be a mole. I wonder why that hasn't been reported in the papers or on the missing poster as one of her distinguishing characteristics. This is horrible to say, but if she is dead and her body is found decomposing, wouldn't that piercing be a key identifying factor?

[LionRun]

If she has been dead for all this time, I doubt there would be much left in the area of her nose be able to tell if Brianna ever had a nose piercing. I hope and pray every day that she is found and the one responsible is caught and convicted. But, as time goes by I am less and less hopeful that she will be found alive.

Lion

[murdershewrote]

I wonder if that's where the blood on the pillow came from. Maybe her nose ring got yanked or hit somehow and the area started to bleed???

[KansasCutie]

But, as time goes by I am less and less hopeful that she will be found alive.

I've become less hopeful that she will even be found.

[chicoliving]

Heard on Fox News Channel a bit ago that the Atlantis casino has put up $25,000 towards the dna testing.

[LionRun]

I've become less hopeful that she will even be found.

Sadly, this may be true due to the vast desert on all sides of Reno. Hopefully, if she has been murdered they will find her body in the near future. I'm not ready to give up hope just yet. Gosh, I cannot imagine what her family is going through.

Lion

[LionRun]

Heard on Fox News Channel a bit ago that the Atlantis casino has put up $25,000 towards the dna testing.

Hi chico:). What DNA testing were they referring to? Was it the DNA testing of one or more of Brianna's family members along with the testing that has already been done on the pillow? Or is there something I've missed in the reporting?

Lion

[concernedperson]

Heard on Fox News Channel a bit ago that the Atlantis casino has put up $25,000 towards the dna testing.

Maybe they do have PR folks that read the internet. Well, good, they need to step up and help the community.

[murdershewrote]

I fear the only way they will find her is to find the perp and hope they can "convince" him to tell where she is. Unless her body is just found by pure accident, like Chandra Levy's was.

[Reannan]

Hi chico:). What DNA testing were they referring to? Was it the DNA testing of one or more of Brianna's family members along with the testing that has already been done on the pillow? Or is there something I've missed in the reporting?

Lion

Lion, I think they are referring to the large backlog of DNA from other arrest that is just sitting around a lab somewhere untested. They were asking the public for money to clear the backlog in the hopes that someone would match.

[LionRun]

Reannan, thank you:). Now I recall this was on this thread, but I didn't connect the two:crazy:.

Lion

[JDB]

I've become less hopeful that she will even be found.

SS Do not fall over here. But KC this might have all been avoided if she and her freinds were not out partying and drinking when they had no businees doing it.

[SeriouslySearching]

:slap:

[JDB]

:slap:

Now what was that for?I agreed with you to a point

[SeriouslySearching]

LOL I just thought I would smack you before KC does.

[mikesmom1989]

Sadly, this may be true due to the vast desert on all sides of Reno. Hopefully, if she has been murdered they will find her body in the near future. I'm not ready to give up hope just yet. Gosh, I cannot imagine what her family is going through.

Lion

hi all ---

ive been reading and following since the beginning of brianna's disappearance and although i dont post much i wanted to give a heads up that brianna's mom will be on nancy grace ---- apparently her 1st in-depth network interview --- i believe the promo said she will appear on the show thursday night

[LionRun]

Thank you mikesmom:).

Lion

[Leviosa]

OK, here's where I went:

Where 9th and G streets meet (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=9th+St+and+g+St,+reno,+nv&sll=39.538817,-119.780996&sspn=0.011716,0.018046&ie=UTF8&ll=39.538535,-119.780695&spn=0.011716,0.018046&z=16&om=0) <snip for space>

Adnoid!

You are to be commended! Thanks so much for the photographs, orientation, and general topography of Reno! Is it me, or does anyone else here on the 'Bri Forum' feel jaded or in some sense 'duped'?

I could be mistaken but I vividly remember writing a post that expressed the following particulars: Brianna was in the process of breaking-up with a boyfriend vis-a-vie the text msg. at 4:23 AM; furthermore, I specifically queried about her already breaking up with a person from her high school before starting college. I thought that it would be a good idea to triangulate Reno (b/f # 1) to Oregon (b/f # 2) to Santa Barbara and back.

Maybe it's me but I vividly remember that the RPD and or Fox News alluded to Brianna attending school in Reno; moreover, that her family was there and that is why she sojourned back to Reno for the school break.

Anyone with me, or am I just whistling 'Dixie' (borrowed from 'Inside Man')? So thanks to the up-brief I find out that Brianna attended school in Mendocino, CA and that that is where her family lives. Now, am I to believe that Brianna went to Reno on a whim to see some friends and within 24 or more hours she's abducted like one in million?

This is precisely what I meant about RPD keeping this thing far too close to the vest! Furthermore, I read in the same article that they now have linked the Oct. victim to the DNA as well?

Hello to Nanandjim, S.S., IinHelping, murdershewrote, concernedperson, KansasCutie, JDB, and the lot! :clap:

[kato]

SS Do not fall over here. But KC this might have all been avoided if she and her freinds were not out partying and drinking when they had no businees doing it.

Plus the fact they should have locked the freakin' door. Granted the kind of door it was it wasn't probably that big of a deterent. BUT one should always lock ALL doors and windows. I don't care if it was left open for other roommates. Get keys for everyone.

[newshound81]

I wonder if that's where the blood on the pillow came from. Maybe her nose ring got yanked or hit somehow and the area started to bleed???
That's a great point, I did not think of that.

[StillHoping]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23111341/
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080212/NEWS01/802120362&theme=
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/NEWS01/802130445&theme=
http://www.newsreview.com/reno/Content?oid=620684

[murdershewrote]

Brianna's was raised in Mendocino but parents now live in Reno...and she was staying with them except for the night she was abducted. At least one of her parents does, I don't recall if her parents are still married to each other or divorced.

[Leviosa]

Brianna's was raised in Mendocino but parents now live in Reno...and she was staying with them except for the night she was abducted. At least one of her parents does, I don't recall if her parents are still married to each other or divorced.

StillHoping and murdershewrote!

StillHoping, thanks for the links; MSMBC's reporter ought to be fired! There is more misinformation in the stories than anything else. Also I found them confusing, primarily the word structure. Oh well.

However, the last link provided more information than everything that I've read. Correct me please but have RPD mentioned Jason Dorfman before?

I have not seen, heard, or otherwise his name or that he also attended SBCC as well. In fact, I've been burnin' up these keys asking everyone if she knew anyone from SBCC there. Now this guy sees here at 3:00 AM?

murdershewrote:

Yeah, the entire scenario is getting confusing; not by anyone here at WS's but by the Reno LE. I don't care what anyone says: they have not done a good job on this investigation...period.

Weather: On morning of January 20th did they think to take pictures of the exterior of the crime scene? Doubt it, they probably just traced and tracked around in the snow until nothing was distinguishable--sounds like the Ramsey crime scene.

You see: If the CSI cordon off the area then there becomes a benchmark for all footprints in the snow...including the depth before and after 4:30 AM; some nobody like me could go to the same scene and any place where the footprints in the snow immerse further down indicates a person who is 100 lbs. heavier.

The condom matter is easy; I hope they do it; if not, I'm starting in the morning regardless. They should already know who, what, where bought and received the product. Stop n' Go, 7-11, liquor store wherever, is going to have this perp on video. It is all too easy tracking down this bit with the condoms.

:blowkiss: Leviosa

[SeriouslySearching]

Correct me please but have RPD mentioned Jason Dorfman before? Not to my knowledge. The only place we have seen Jason mentioned was on the same post as was quoted in the article.

Now this guy sees her at 3:00 AM? According to the post, but it has not been confirmed by anyone as far as I can tell.

Weather: On morning of January 20th did they think to take pictures of the exterior of the crime scene? One would have to assume they did their job.

I'm starting in the morning regardless. They should already know who, what, where bought and received the product. Stop n' Go, 7-11, liquor store wherever, is going to have this perp on video. It is all too easy tracking down this bit with the condoms. I agree! Go for it! If they have not done this, they could be missing a very important clue in this case. While I am sure that many men buy condoms (if they are reasonably intelligent in this day n age), they should be able to narrow down the ones who bought the specific type of condoms found at the crime scene. Were there "batch numbers" on the packages? Any other numbers or markings to tie them to a particular batch the store that sold them could link? I can honestly say I have never looked and I don't keep them onhand to check this information out. Maybe one of our sleuths could buy some to see what is on the individual packets?

They have NOT connected the October incident with DNA of the other 3 crime scenes, to my knowledge. This has been my major complaint of releasing the sketch before this was determined. The only connection they have released is the location so far. The description of the man appears to be different than the second victim gave of her attacker, too.
I hope this helps with your questions. :)

[STO4]

This may or may not been posted already, but here seems to be a good background and summary of the case:

http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/15613202.html

[SeriouslySearching]

Here is a quote from a Jason Dorfman from Santa Barbara City College that says he is a Business Major.

http://media.www.thechannelsonline.com/media/storage/paper669/news/2006/09/20/News/Board.Backs.Loma.Alta.Lot-2287436.shtml

[StillHoping]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23111341/
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080212/NEWS01/802120362&theme=
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/NEWS01/802130445&theme=
http://www.newsreview.com/reno/Content?oid=620684

Is anyone else having problems getting the last link to work today?
I even tried just going to News Review and choosing the Reno version, but it just gives me a blank page. Anyone else???

[StillHoping]

(snipped) They hope that someone will remember this man having this brand of condoms and turn that information over to the police. Police say the condoms are Trojans with an expiration date of 5/2012, lot #TT7135WZ908. They say the condoms might have been put into circulation around October or November of 2007. (end snip)

Also, I have been wondering HOW the November 13th groping attack has been officially linked to the other cases including Brianna's. It was obviously not a semen DNA link. Anyone have any idea's??? I was thinking maybe he kissed/licked/bit the woman and they were able to get a DNA sample from saliva. Could there be enough saliva to do that? Could he have left semen, even though he didn't rape her?

[newshound81]

This may or may not been posted already, but here seems to be a good background and summary of the case:

http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/15613202.html
I like how they contrasted Brianna's case with a cold case to show how much technology and search efforts for missing persons has changed. I can't imagine not knowing what happened to your loved one for more than 20 years. But there are cases far colder than that. It's somewhat unbelievable - how can a person just never be found? Such a shame.

[aj1020]

(snipped) They hope that someone will remember this man having this brand of condoms and turn that information over to the police. Police say the condoms are Trojans with an expiration date of 5/2012, lot #TT7135WZ908. They say the condoms might have been put into circulation around October or November of 2007. (end snip)


Because everytime someone purchases a box of condoms they're sure to check out the expiration date and LOT NUMBER!! And how many people bought a box of Trojan condoms in October or November?? It's good that they're releasing this info, don't get me wrong, but they can't seriously think that they're going to get any leads because of it. :rolleyes:

[Leviosa]

StillHoping; S.S., murdershewrote, newshound, et. al.,

Seriously Searching, thanks much for your commentary and answers to my previous questions! For a while there I thought I might either have lost it, or I was getting my cases mixed up! Again thank you!

StillHoping: Here is my best attempt on what little information RPD has provided. With regards to the DNA: During a radio show interview with one of the more up and coming trendy stations in Reno, the radio personality (vj?) asked Cmdr. Ron Holladay what was the source of the DNA. The chief began to answer, and with the host personality stating "I know that information is privileged…" the chief agreed, and continued by stating that certain oils emitted from our bodies contain our DNA. This is the apparent match or, just like everything else in this matter, could just be a hill of beans.

newshould: Thanks for the link! Times indeed have changed as has technology; yet mostly I think people are changing with the 'closeness' we all feel with some of the victims, for whatever reasons.

If anyone cares to here is a link to ABC News' GMA and main news site: If you have the time to read, it becomes very evident to me why there are so many questions based on complete misinformation. Link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4227385&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4227385&page=1)

[Leviosa]

Because everytime someone purchases a box of condoms they're sure to check out the expiration date and LOT NUMBER!! And how many people bought a box of Trojan condoms in October or November?? It's good that they're releasing this info, don't get me wrong, but they can't seriously think that they're going to get any leads because of it. :rolleyes:

aj1020:

For reasons that I don't need to explain, that Lot Number is golden if pursued properly. That's all. CHEERS!

Leviosa

[murdershewrote]

"certain oils emitted from our bodies contain our DNA"

the fact that he said "oils" is kind of interesting, most of our body doesn't get exactly oily, but our face emits oils and hair would, so I'm thinking maybe they got some kind of oily deposit from the guy's hair or that he had oily skin and rubbed his face up against the pillow?

[StillHoping]

Because everytime someone purchases a box of condoms they're sure to check out the expiration date and LOT NUMBER!! And how many people bought a box of Trojan condoms in October or November?? It's good that they're releasing this info, don't get me wrong, but they can't seriously think that they're going to get any leads because of it. :rolleyes:

I agree with you to a point. I think the reason that LE considers the condoms to be of such importance is that the brand was a rarely purchased brand "Very Sensitive". With the other evidence they have, if they get 20 names of people who use that brand of condom, they can easily rule them out, or in. They are hoping that a girlfriend/wife/friend etc. will recognize that as a brand used by someone, and with the other released details, become suspicious enough to turn him in. There might be only a small chance of this breaking the case, but it is a possibility.

[StillHoping]

"certain oils emitted from our bodies contain our DNA"

the fact that he said "oils" is kind of interesting, most of our body doesn't get exactly oily, but our face emits oils and hair would, so I'm thinking maybe they got some kind of oily deposit from the guy's hair or that he had oily skin and rubbed his face up against the pillow?


Thanks for the info Leviosa, I do remember reading that now but it had completely slipped my mind.
I found out recently that human hands/fingers do not produce oils on their own. So fingerprints usually come from oils from people touching other things, or their face etc.

The statement is still rather odd, though. I have not ever heard of another case where they got DNA from "Body Oils".

[murdershewrote]

me neither

[aj1020]

aj1020:

For reasons that I don't need to explain, that Lot Number is golden if pursued properly. That's all. CHEERS!

Leviosa

And I totally agree - but it would be LE doing the pursuing, not the public at large.

I agree with you to a point. I think the reason that LE considers the condoms to be of such importance is that the brand was a rarely purchased brand "Very Sensitive".

It's helpful to know the condoms were "very sensitive" or whatever - I didn't see that tidbit on the initial report. I just don't get the release of the lot number. But whatever. The more info the better.

[adnoid]

I drove by the house this morning. I didn't see where anyone had posted photos of it, all I had seen is the picture in the paper.

It's pretty exposed on the corner, with some big windows that face a major street.

On College, at the stop sign at Sierra, looking West. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5164.jpg)

Acter crossing Sierra, still on College, heading West. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5165.jpg)

After going past the house I turned around on College - this is a shot pointed East on College (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5166.jpg)

I also took a couple of pictures of Mel's Diner at the Sands - the distance from the house is about 1 1/4 miles:

On 4th Street, headed East, at about Ralston street (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5167.jpg)

Still on 4th Street, just about to Arlington. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5168.jpg)

[murdershewrote]

Seems maybe the manufacturer could track what retailer the condoms were sold (say to a major pharmacy ) and then track to an individual store, or at least an area, by using the lot number. I think they use lot numbers all the time for recalls and can pin it down pretty close. At least it might tell where he shops.

[newshound81]

I drove by the house this morning. I didn't see where anyone had posted photos of it, all I had seen is the picture in the paper.

It's pretty exposed on the corner, with some big windows that face a major street.

On College, at the stop sign at Sierra, looking West. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5164.jpg)

Acter crossing Sierra, still on College, heading West. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5165.jpg)

After going past the house I turned around on College - this is a shot pointed East on College (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5166.jpg)

I also took a couple of pictures of Mel's Diner at the Sands - the distance from the house is about 1 1/4 miles:

On 4th Street, headed East, at about Ralston street (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5167.jpg)

Still on 4th Street, just about to Arlington. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/DSCN5168.jpg)
Thank you for the pictures Adnoid. I never realized there were so many houses right there - what a risk the abductor took as far as not being fearful anyone from those houses would walk outside or look out a window and see him. Brianna was probably abducted closer to 5 a.m. - that's not too early for any early riser or someone who works a Sunday morning shift to be up and about brewing coffee or something.

[murdershewrote]

Very risky, that's why I'm thinking she was alive when she left the house with him. He could have told her to make it look like they were just a young college couple coming home or leaving the house after a night of partying. Especially since the neighbors probably know that people are coming and going out of that house all the time, all hours. That's why I think she was taken at gun or knifepoint. Course with what she was wearing that might be a little strange, he may have given her his coat to put on to cover up.

[StillHoping]

Seems maybe the manufacturer could track what retailer the condoms were sold (say to a major pharmacy ) and then track to an individual store, or at least an area, by using the lot number. I think they use lot numbers all the time for recalls and can pin it down pretty close. At least it might tell where he shops.


I agree. If they can track the condoms down to having been sold at a specific store, a clerk may remember selling those condoms to a regular customer. Especially since they are not a popular style. It wouldn't be enough to convict anyone. But with the DNA already on file, all we need at this point is a name.

It would be interesting to know: If the condoms were purchased with a credit/debit card, can they pull that information up??? Would it depend on the individual store???

[murdershewrote]

yes, say, for example if those condoms were defective the manufacturer would notify their customers to pull them off the shelves by lot number. That's what was done with all the pet food, etc. Not sure of LE is willing to go that far, but seems it could (and should) be done. How hard would it be to ask the local area pharmacies, 7-11's, etc. to check their lot numbers to help in this case?

Once they get the stores that have that stock particular lot number, they probably could pull the credit card receipts for a certain period of time. Although I just have a feeling this guy paid cash.

[Leviosa]

murdershewrote (msw), concernedperson (cp), and Adnoid, all others…Greetings!

Adnoid thank you so much for the photos and your time invested into this heinous crime. I have done exactly what you are doing and know how difficult and compromising it can be. Thanks again!

Cp, msw, now you are on precisely what and where my message was about—completely! Kudos! I once worked a case that had items of evidence that were far scarcer that these condoms are. However, once we put together the numbers, it became the focal point of our closing argument which ended in a conviction.

It's Bayesian economic theory--'if this...than that' kind of stuff.

Leviosa

(btw, anyone see Brianna's mom and uncle on Fox News today?)

[StillHoping]

I can't believe Brianna's been gone for almost a month now.
:eek:

[adnoid]

Breaking news - reported by people in Reno, not on any news I know - a body has been found, rumored to be female.

[adnoid]

http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7880135

http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7879998

[adnoid]

Location as described in the news releases and by my wife's coworker who is caught in traffic at the scene. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=prototype+drive+at+sandhill+rd+reno&ie=UTF8&ll=39.445158,-119.761598&spn=0.011732,0.018046&t=h&z=16)

[adnoid]

More local news:

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15676757.html

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15676757.html

[nanandjim]

Breaking news - reported by people in Reno, not on any news I know - a body has been found, rumored to be female.
Where is Double R and Sandhill in comparison to where Brianna was abducted?

[adnoid]

Where is Double R and Sandhill in comparison to where Brianna was abducted?

Here's a driving map. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=1395+Mackay+ct,+reno,+nv&daddr=sandhill+road,+reno,+nv&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.909425,73.916016&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=12)

It's on the other side of town.

It's near my house.

It's across the street from where I take my son for swimming lessons every Saturday.

[chicoliving]

Thanks for the updates adnoid!

[adnoid]

Thanks for the updates adnoid!

I am so sorry these are the updates - I feared this is what it would be, but kept hoping.

Her poor family.

Next - the killer will be found, and the usual group of women will throw themselves at him, write him letters in prison, offer to marry him, etc. He will be defended from the usual corners.

I will control myself, but I know it's coming.

[nanandjim]

...
It's across the street from where I take my son for swimming lessons every Saturday.
Yikes. Would this be a typical place to dump a body? One of "our" suspects works in construction. Would this be a place that construction people know about?

Is the buzz that it is Brianna? When I think of a "body" being found, I think of it being somewhat intact. Brianna has been missing for a month. How much of her body would be left? (Sorry to sound so graphic. :( )

[teacherbonnie]

adnoid...in a picture I saw, LE is standing quite close to the road and it looks like a busy area. Not a secluded area at all.

[adnoid]

Yikes. Would this be a typical place to dump a body? One of "our" suspects works in construction. Would this be a place that construction people know about?

Is the buzz that it is Brianna? When I think of a "body" being found, I think of it being somewhat intact. Brianna has been missing for a month. How much of her body would be left? (Sorry to sound so graphic. :( )

Yes, the police have said to several people in the area they believe it is. It's a light industrial area, multi-tenant buildings, some retail. There's a restaurant right there that we go to all the time.

It's been damned cold for a while - the last few days have been nice, and the snow is pretty much melted away now - but not toally. A week or two ago I'd guess that field was covered with snow, and it would have been too cold for folks to be cutting across it going to/from lunch, which is how she was found today.

[murdershewrote]

WOW...well, if it is her, for her family's sake they can bring her home. Depending on the condition of the body, he could have moved it there from somewhere else. But it very well could be another victim.

I had a hunch something would happen around this time of month...that is his pattern so far, on a Friday mid month.

[adnoid]

adnoid...in a picture I saw, LE is standing quite close to the road and it looks like a busy area. Not a secluded area at all.

Nope, not secluded in the slightest. I know the area well.

In the closeup map I posted, if you scroll just North a bit you'll see an enormous building - that's IGT, they make a lot of the world's slot machines, video poker machines, etc. One of Reno's largest employers, and they run the factory 24 hours (or they were recently). Pretty high traffic area.

[nanandjim]

Yes, the police have said to several people in the area they believe it is. It's a light industrial area, multi-tenant buildings, some retail. There's a restaurant right there that we go to all the time.

It's been damned cold for a while - the last few days have been nice, and the snow is pretty much melted away now - but not toally. A week or two ago I'd guess that field was covered with snow, and it would have been too cold for folks to be cutting across it going to/from lunch, which is how she was found today.
Thanks. Makes perfect sense why she (whoever it is) wasn't found before now. :(

[nanandjim]

Nope, not secluded in the slightest. I know the area well.

In the closeup map I posted, if you scroll just North a bit you'll see an enormous building - that's IGT, they make a lot of the world's slot machines, video poker machines, etc. One of Reno's largest employers, and they run the factory 24 hours (or they were recently). Pretty high traffic area.

Well, I assume the murderer knows the area and dumped her in the field quickly. Perhaps, it was to his advantage that it is well travelled. He would have looked just like any other vehicle in the area.

Brianna is so small. IMO, he would have no trouble whatsoever discarding her in the field.

[teacherbonnie]

adnoid...help me picture it. Big field? Little field? Is it like an island with road all around or is it connected to something?

[chicoliving]

This link shows the area

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080215/NEWS18/80215038&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[petra]

I am so sorry these are the updates - I feared this is what it would be, but kept hoping.

Her poor family.

Next - the killer will be found, and the usual group of women will throw themselves at him, write him letters in prison, offer to marry him, etc. He will be defended from the usual corners.

I will control myself, but I know it's coming.

Thank you for the updates.
This is just so heartbreaking.
Prayers for family and friends .

You are so right about . It makes me so dang angry.

[MysteryAddict]

OMG, as much as we want this case solved, it's hard to think of that beautiful girl not being alive!

Although by now we should be ready for bad news, it will still be a shock if we hear this body is that of Brianna.

[murdershewrote]

Thanks for the link to those photos...really gives an up close view. Looks like she was very close to the road because you can see the stop sign in one of the pics.

[adnoid]

adnoid...help me picture it. Big field? Little field? Is it like an island with road all around or is it connected to something?

I'm trying to get a sense of exactly where they are - I have been told 2 intersections:

Double R and Prototype

and

Sandhill and Prototype

These two intersections are pretty close to each other, but based on the pictures I'm seeing now I'd say Sandhill and Prototype is where they are.

This is a map of my best estimate. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=prototype+drive+at+sandhill+rd+reno&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=39.445353,-119.76258&spn=0.002933,0.004511&z=18) The irregularly shaped building at the bottom of the map (assuming it comes across correctly, I'm looking at this on a pretty big monitor) I recognize in one of the news photos.

[murdershewrote]

are there any apartment buildings in that area?

[adnoid]

are there any apartment buildings in that area?

Yes - there's a pretty big development at the corner of Double R and Prototype/Double Diamond. In the Google Maps it shows as open land, you can see where the pads will go, but that picture looks to me to be about 3 years old.

[murdershewrote]

maybe that's where he lives...

[nanandjim]

Here is a link showing the area. Scroll down to see a photographer taking a photo of the area where the body was found. It looks really close to the road!

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080215/SPECIAL01/80215030&theme=

[adnoid]

Here is a link showing the area. It looks really close to the road!

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080215/SPECIAL01/80215030&theme=

Here's a new report:

http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7880135

About a car's length from the road according to the story. SW corner of Double R and Sandhill - that's what it looked like to me.

Close in map of the corner mentioned in the story. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=prototype+drive+at+sandhill+rd+reno&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=39.444926,-119.761127&spn=0.000733,0.001128&z=20)

[nanandjim]

Here's a new report:

http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7880135

About a car's length from the road according to the story. SW corner of Double R and Sandhill - that's what it looked like to me.

Close in map of the corner mentioned in the story. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=prototype+drive+at+sandhill+rd+reno&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=39.444926,-119.761127&spn=0.000733,0.001128&z=20)
Thanks, adnoid. Did you scroll down in the link that I posted? It actually shows a photographer taking a picture of the area where the body was found. You can see how close it is to the road. I wonder why places like this were not searched before. Do you think that they were just looking in more remote places?

[adnoid]

...I wonder why places like this were not searched before. Do you think that they were just looking in more remote places?

I don't know that they were not. She was taken on 1/20. I left town on vacation the evening of 1/18 and got back 1/28 - we drove to LA and took a cruise to Mexico. We had to delay our drive back a day because there was so much snow that I80 from Sacramento was closed, and we got several more storms after that. She could have been there, under the snow, all this time. I just don't know.

[adnoid]

Photos from the site. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=prototype+drive+at+sandhill+rd+reno&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=39.444926,-119.761127&spn=0.000733,0.001128&z=20)

[Taximom]

How would they know that the man shaves his private area? That's what I think I just heard on NG.

[Taximom]

Oh, wait, I forgot about the other victims. Sorry! :doh:

[JDB]

DAMN!!!!! I am so sick and tired Of this happening in this world.I do not care who is elected REP or Dem.But this has got to stop!!No more parole no more out on good behaviour. Just lock ther AZZS up:furious:

[adnoid]

DAMN!!!!! I am so sick and tired Of this happening in this world.[B]...

You and me both, cowbow. Just heard from Mrs. Adnoid who spoke with one of the folks involved in the search - the cops on the scene have tears in their eyes.

[adnoid]

I'm leaving my office now, I'll see if I can get close and get some pictures to give you all an idea how the place is laid out.

I'm pissed off. This SOB needs to be executed in a slow and painful way.

[JDB]

You and me both, cowbow. Just heard from Mrs. Adnoid who spoke with one of the folks involved in the search - the cops on the scene have tears in their eyes.

R u saying they think it is her???GAwd what is wrong with this place (world) Hubby kiling wifes BF killing GF

[philamena]

Adnoid,
Thanks for your updates!
When you first posted your pictures of that area, I immediatedly thought that she could be out there and never be found.
Prayers to Brianna's family even though the body hasn't been identified yet.

[KR2tonenow]

More local news:

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15676757.html

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15676757.html

Thanks for all the updates, watching NG now!

[fran]

I'm not surprised some of the officers involved have tears Adnoid. Even I do and I'm not involved in the case what so ever.

What another sad and yet, kind of expected ending to another 'missing persons' case.

I'm with JDB, lock 'em up and throw away the key!

I'm honestly devasted. I can't imagine how Brianna's family feels.

My heart goes out to them.

fran
:(

[philamena]

http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7881060
Action News speaks with mother and uncle of missing student Brianna Denison

I first asked Brianna's mother, "Why do you feel that she's still out there? Is it your maternal instinct?"
"The thought of living life without Brianna's is not a possibility," said Bridgette Denison.

[TopGunner]

OMG, this is so devasting... I was just at my child's college today, a sweet old college town. House after house of students, they walk everywhere (because parking is a $%#$!), and they walk at all hours.....I don't want her to be SCARED. This is just awful...I will keep Brianna and her family in my prayers.

[bigbuck]

http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7881060
Action News speaks with mother and uncle of missing student Brianna Denison

Heartbreaking!

[TKS2003]

OMG, this is so devasting... I was just at my child's college today, a sweet old college town. House after house of students, they walk everywhere (because parking is a $%#$!), and they walk at all hours.....I don't want her to be SCARED. This is just awful...I will keep Brianna and her family in my prayers.

I know what you are saying, my daughter goes to night classes at a comm, college in NC, there is a strip mall parking lot that is closer than the school parking lot, and they have been TOWING CARS if they see a student park there and walk to the college. The businesses in this strip mall all close by 8p, my daughter attends class from 6:30 - 10p three nights a week, and had her car towed. I called my ex-husband and told him to find who is doing this, and raise some kind of stink.
I told my daughter to keep parking there, and we will just have to pay for the **** towing, I want her safe.

[adnoid]

Well, I went by, but it's still all roped off. Lots of police, looks like all 3 of the local TV stations have their trucks there. I do know exactly what area they have roped off, I'll see if I can mark it out on a map & post it.

It makes me so sad. Why would someone do this.

[KansasCutie]

Brighton Denison, Brianna's younger brother, wrote and produced this song for his sister. He wants the world to hear it.

http://www.jainlemos.com/Not_Time_to_Say_Goodbye.mp3

[TopGunner]

I know what you are saying, my daughter goes to night classes at a comm, college in NC, there is a strip mall parking lot that is closer than the school parking lot, and they have been TOWING CARS if they see a student park there and walk to the college. The businesses in this strip mall all close by 8p, my daughter attends class from 6:30 - 10p three nights a week, and had her car towed. I called my ex-husband and told him to find who is doing this, and raise some kind of stink.
I told my daughter to keep parking there, and we will just have to pay for the **** towing, I want her safe.

Awww....TKS, you sound EXACTLY like me. Just pay the stupid tickets! Maybe she can buddy up with a friend? I called my child tonight "DO NOT WALK ANYWHERE ALONE, EVER!" She's like, huh?

[adnoid]

...I immediatedly thought that she could be out there and never be found...

Where the body was found is actually in town and off a pretty busy street. It's 2 lanes each direction, and there's a good deal of traffic. I've probably driven past that lot a dozen times in the past few weeks, and right now with one lane blocked off in one direction it's affecting traffic.

Now, being a commercial/industrial area, I don't imagine there's much traffic there after 10:00 at night until 6:00 or so in the morning. Still, Double R is the major route through the area and the lot is right on Double R.

[TKS2003]

Awww....TKS, you sound EXACTLY like me. Just pay the stupid tickets! Maybe she can buddy up with a friend? I called my child tonight "DO NOT WALK ANYWHERE ALONE, EVER!" She's like, huh?

Thank TG!!
It's sad that the school parking lot is farther away, and the strip mall has a lighted path to the school!! What did they think would happen? They sure dont seem to mind when kids from the school use that path to buy food, games and tanning at the strip mall. Told Aleesha to just go buy food before class every night.
Actually, her dad did go talk to someone at the school, who apparently talked to retailers at the mall, and they havent been towing for the past few weeks.
Told my ex hub to ask what will it take to change this? How about when a student turns up missing, and her car is sitting in that school parking lot that's almost two miles from the school.
yep, pay for the damn towing and BE SAFE.
Every Mon, Weds, Fri she calls me when leaving class and getting into her car. Makes me feel better!

[adnoid]

...I told my daughter to keep parking there, and we will just have to pay for the **** towing, I want her safe.

Wouldn't this mean she comes out of her 10:00 PM class to a missing car?

[TKS2003]

Where the body was found is actually in town and off a pretty busy street. It's 2 lanes each direction, and there's a good deal of traffic. I've probably driven past that lot a dozen times in the past few weeks, and right now with one lane blocked off in one direction it's affecting traffic.

Now, being a commercial/industrial area, I don't imagine there's much traffic there after 10:00 at night until 6:00 or so in the morning. Still, Double R is the major route through the area and the lot is right on Double R.

Wow, thanks Adnoid, I went back thru the links you posted to get an idea of the area, you are like our very own GPS system.....
My prayers go out to Briana's family, and again, I am counting my blessings--which I usually am not good about doing, I am the eternal pessimist, but my kids are happy and healthy, I just cannot imagine the pain Briana's family must be living through.
And like you said earlier Adnoid, this guy needs to go in a very slow and painful way.

[paddy01]

Brighton Denison, Brianna's younger brother, wrote and produced this song for his sister. He wants the world to hear it.

http://www.jainlemos.com/Not_Time_to_Say_Goodbye.mp3

Omg, this is so incredibly sad, I started to cry listening to brothers
song about Brianna. My prayers to Brianna and her family.

[lilpony]

Gosh, this will never end, will it. How scary and so sad. :furious:

[TKS2003]

[QUOTE=adnoid;1992533]Wouldn't this mean she comes out of her 10:00 PM class to a missing car?[/QUOTE

Unfortunately yes. That happened one time, and she called her dad and took a cab to the impound lot where they had her car. she is lucky that her dad is nearby, and accessible, but think of the kids who arent.

[SeriouslySearching]

It sounds like they are really leaning towards it being Brianna and I am sure clothing or other items at the scene would help to infer that possibility.

To me, the location would suggest it isn't the crime scene, but only the dump site. I also think it would put the perp being from an area North of there. While they kill within their comfort zone, they often leave bodies furthest away from their home. This would put it back up towards Sparks, imo.

I think it would also indictate the perp might be extraordinarily comfortable with the Reno area due to the fact it was left in a fairly populated area with activity when he could have taken her to any remote location within minutes of her house. I even think he might be disappointed she had not been found sooner. He wants to revel in the rush of media and police. He could have simply put her where it would be nearly impossible to be found...but he chose this place. He was overconfident because with the crimes he had already committed, he had not been caught. He didn't know they were going to connect his DNA. He was being cocky, imo.

[KR2tonenow]

"Do not know if the body found is Brianna Dennison. Will not know until results of autopsy tomm."

Fox News is reporting.

Family has been notified of location, but no identification as of yet.

[Bobbisangel]

DAMN!!!!! I am so sick and tired Of this happening in this world.I do not care who is elected REP or Dem.But this has got to stop!!No more parole no more out on good behaviour. Just lock ther AZZS up:furious:


Maybe that should be one of the big questions that are asked of the people who are running for Pres......what will you do about crime in the U.S.? Everyone is so concerned about taxes, etc that no one even thinks to ask about crime. If I had my way it would be one strike and you are out! Build bigger prisons if that is a problem...do whatever it takes to keep these monsters locked up forever. Start putting the victims FIRST!

[Ca-Sun]

The police think it might be Brianna.

Police canvass area where body found
STAFF REPORT (online@rgj.com)

Posted: 2/15/2008

Reno police officers are canvassing businesses near where a woman's body was found this afternoon in a South Reno field.
Jason Rosvall, who works at nearby Precision Tae Kwon-Do, said police officers are looking for witnesses and surveillance tapes.
“He just asked us some questions, then we asked him if it had anything to do with Brianna,” Rosvall said. “He put his head down and said, ‘Yeah, we think it does.’”


More here (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Avis=J7&Dato=20080215&Kategori=NEWS18&Lopenr=80215031&Ref=AR&Nocache=1)

[aj1020]

This is just heartbreaking. I think most of us probably thought it would come to this eventually, but it makes me so sad for her and her family and so ANGRY that this happens. I hope if this is Brianna that it brings her family even an ounce of closure, but it will never bring her back.

[adnoid]

Here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=1395+mackay+ct,+reno&daddr=sandhill+and+double+r,+reno,+nv&sll=39.495033,-119.751663&sspn=0.144655,0.367699&ie=UTF8&ll=39.489735,-119.789429&spn=0.144666,0.367699&t=h&z=12) showing the distance from where Brianna was taken to where the body was found today.

Here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=+sandhill+and+double+r,+reno,+nv&sll=39.489735,-119.789429&sspn=0.144666,0.367699&ie=UTF8&ll=39.445117,-119.760745&spn=0.002262,0.005745&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr) of where the body was found. It was in the field that's on the SW corner of the intersection. I'm going to try to diagram the area that was roped off when I went by.

Here is a map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/BD_Found.jpg) of where the body was found. I highlighted in red the area that was surrounded by yellow tape (as best as I could tell), and I highlighted in green where all the TV news trucks were parked.

[katherine phillips]

I can't believe it...almost sick to my stomach. Here I posted a week or so ago about the Reno area (used to live there and just moved away in Nov out of state). I stopped looking here on teh message boards as I thought the case would be unsolved...
Then I hear on the news a body was found. It was found ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I USED TO WORK! I am not kidding, that is NOT, I repeat, NOT a desolate area. To give you an idea, the place I used to work, (don't want to mention for privacy reasons) employed probably 1500-2000 employees....that had to drive by that site EVERY MORNING and night. That dump area is off a cut thru road that connects the street to my old work (busy) and another even busier road. In fact, I have jogged down that cut thru road and along a path there several times. This gives me the willies. To answer someone's question, I have a good feeling this guy works in this area. For all I know, he could have worked at my old employer. It is one of the largest employers in town. There are graveyard shifts there - take note. This person knows this area. Odd thing is, it REALLY is not hidden...it is busy and out in the open. I beleive he dumped her from this cross road (sand hill) This cross road is not very long. Also, to answer someones question, this is NOT close to where she was abducted. This is a business park where she was found. Mapquest may say it is 8-10 miles so that sounds close but in reality, it's worlds apart. This area of town, this South Meadows Business Park area is full of businesses, mostly newer, profitable companies, sprinkled with little mom and pop (tai kwon do) sandwich shops, boutiques, dry cleaners, etc to service all the commuters. I still am in shock. How many times have I run by this spot, never mind driven by! Once again, I am so glad I moved out of state. Poor family, poor girl.

[IdahoMom]

Here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=1395+mackay+ct,+reno&daddr=sandhill+and+double+r,+reno,+nv&sll=39.495033,-119.751663&sspn=0.144655,0.367699&ie=UTF8&ll=39.489735,-119.789429&spn=0.144666,0.367699&t=h&z=12) showing the distance from where Brianna was taken to where the body was found today.

Here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=+sandhill+and+double+r,+reno,+nv&sll=39.489735,-119.789429&sspn=0.144666,0.367699&ie=UTF8&ll=39.445117,-119.760745&spn=0.002262,0.005745&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr) of where the body was found. It was in the field that's on the SW corner of the intersection. I'm going to try to diagram the area that was roped off when I went by.

Here is a map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/BD_Found.jpg) of where the body was found. I highlighted in red the area that was surrounded by yellow tape (as best as I could tell), and I highlighted in green where all the TV news trucks were parked.

Good work adnoid. Thanks!

Do you know what the building is to the west of the lot- at the corner of Prototype and Gateway?

[SeriouslySearching]

My prayers go to Brianna and her family. I am so sorry for what they have had to experience at the the hands of this horrible monster.

[IdahoMom]

I can't believe it...almost sick to my stomach. Here I posted a week or so ago about the Reno area (used to live there and just moved away in Nov out of state). I stopped looking here on teh message boards as I thought the case would be unsolved...
Then I hear on the news a body was found. It was found ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I USED TO WORK! I am not kidding, that is NOT, I repeat, NOT a desolate area. To give you an idea, the place I used to work, (don't want to mention for privacy reasons) employed probably 1500-2000 employees....that had to drive by that site EVERY MORNING and night. That dump area is off a cut thru road that connects the street to my old work (busy) and another even busier road. In fact, I have jogged down that cut thru road and along a path there several times. This gives me the willies. To answer someone's question, I have a good feeling this guy works in this area. For all I know, he could have worked at my old employer. It is one of the largest employers in town. There are graveyard shifts there - take note. This person knows this area. Odd thing is, it REALLY is not hidden...it is busy and out in the open. I beleive he dumped her from this cross road (sand hill) This cross road is not very long. Also, to answer someones question, this is NOT close to where she was abducted. This is a business park where she was found. Mapquest may say it is 8-10 miles so that sounds close but in reality, it's worlds apart. This area of town, this South Meadows Business Park area is full of businesses, mostly newer, profitable companies, sprinkled with little mom and pop (tai kwon do) sandwich shops, boutiques, dry cleaners, etc to service all the commuters. I still am in shock. How many times have I run by this spot, never mind driven by! Once again, I am so glad I moved out of state. Poor family, poor girl.

Good information, Katherine. I was thinking when I looked at adnoid's maps that the perp must be comfortable in that area, given the size and number of businesses in the area. :( I agree- poor Brianna!

Seriously Searching- I just saw your post (#385) and I am in complete agreement with what you said.

[cheko1]

Thank you Adnoid that helped me alot...
I'm just catching up on this case!

[Ca-Sun]

Here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=1395+mackay+ct,+reno&daddr=sandhill+and+double+r,+reno,+nv&sll=39.495033,-119.751663&sspn=0.144655,0.367699&ie=UTF8&ll=39.489735,-119.789429&spn=0.144666,0.367699&t=h&z=12) showing the distance from where Brianna was taken to where the body was found today.

Here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=+sandhill+and+double+r,+reno,+nv&sll=39.489735,-119.789429&sspn=0.144666,0.367699&ie=UTF8&ll=39.445117,-119.760745&spn=0.002262,0.005745&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr) of where the body was found. It was in the field that's on the SW corner of the intersection. I'm going to try to diagram the area that was roped off when I went by.

Here is a map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/adnoid/WS/BD_Found.jpg) of where the body was found. I highlighted in red the area that was surrounded by yellow tape (as best as I could tell), and I highlighted in green where all the TV news trucks were parked.

Thanks, Adnoid. I'm a bit surprised that she was so close to businesses and the street. I was so hoping for a different outcome.

Here is a link (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=J7&Dato=20080215&Kategori=NEWS18&Lopenr=215003&Ref=PH)to pictures of the area.

[SuziQ]

I've had a busy day and just got to this thread. I am so saddened. The latest from fox:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330862,00.html
Police cordoned off a field where the body of a woman was found Friday but declined to speculate whether the body was that of missing 19-year-old college student Brianna Denison.
The body was found about noon in the brush-covered field on the city's south side near a light industrial area, Reno police spokesman Steve Frady said.
About 45 law enforcement and crime lab personnel, including an FBI agent, were at the scene, which covers about two acres, he said.

[katherine phillips]

ok, looked at the maps and its actually at the other end of Sand hill then I was thinking...we're talking about only maybe 100-200 yards is the total length of sand hill road. So it's still relative. I am not so sure of what I said earlier about him knowing this dumping area. Here's why. If he knew this area, he would have known that just down the road - away from teh freeway, were more remote dirt lots with very few business bldgs on them. The business park is big and then continues on to residential. It is still being built out. There were LOTS and LOTS of places he coud have dumped that were LOTS LOTS more remote. I am wondering if maybe he didn't know this area well? Looks like he was on Double R and then quickly turned in to Sand Hill, parked and dumped the body. Apparently, it was only a car lengths away into the field from teh road. This is VERY quick access from teh freeway. it's a quick exit off the highway and then you come upon Gateway which is too much retail and activity (gas stations open at night, banks with cameras), next intersection is a big one, this is Double R. He would have taken that road and the first "little side road" would have been sand hill. I think he got scared and made a quick dump. Then I think the snow buried everything for a while until the 60 degree whether the other day melted everything.
That building on the corner of Prototype and Gateway is a company (can't remember name) but it was never really busy. Very few if any cars, course, that could have changed by now. I'll ask my firends who still work there...I'll bet it was crazy there today.
Anway, I hope they catch this creep so her family can get some closure.

[SuziQ]

Still trying to catch up here. So the body was located because a tip was called in? Who called it in? Did they just happen upon the scene or did they know of it before?

[adnoid]

Do you know what the building is to the west of the lot- at the corner of Prototype and Gateway?

It's an office building. I'll be driving by there tomorrow anyway, I'll get more info then.

[SuziQ]

Katherine, this ought to really give you the creeps.

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15676757.html
(snip)
A worker from a nearby business spotted the body while walking back from lunch and told a supervisor, who telephoned investigators.

[adnoid]

Still trying to catch up here. So the body was located because a tip was called in? Who called it in? Did they just happen upon the scene or did they know of it before?

Reports I saw were that it was a group of people walking back from lunch, cutting through the field, that found the body and called 911.

[katherine phillips]

Yes, that's the thing, on a spring like day, LOTS and LOTS of us would go out for a walk to that pond you see in the pic's right across the way. Tehre is a walking path around it. There are sandwich shops in those 2 rectangular bldgs on sand hill rd - Ricks deli. Lots of walkers at lunch. I can't remember if there is a path thru that field but I'll bet the body could be seen from teh sidewalk.
I think if they can pinpoint a time of death they can get security cameras from either the Wells fargo at the corner of Gateway and South meadows or at any number of gas stations etc or even the newer office bldgs. I think that office bldg that is smaller on the opposite side of Double R is a newish build and thus, might have cameras.

[katherine phillips]

this is going to get solved. I know it.

[SuziQ]

Reports I saw were that it was a group of people walking back from lunch, cutting through the field, that found the body and called 911.

What a horrible thing to come across. BTW, thanks for all of the info you have provided.

[katherine phillips]

Just emailed my friend asking what the scuttlebutt is at work and if it was an employee walking at lunch. Rumor mill is usually ripe there so hopefully we'll hear something. An eerie feeling came over me and I said it ti my friend in the email...I hope this creep doesn't work there@!!!! They keep mentioning my company in the news but it's really not the closest of all the bldgs,...it just has the most name recognition. The Charter cable office bulding is closer.
From live video, it looks like the brush was low engough to be seen over. I don't think people in work clothes would be walking thru the icky field. I certainly wouldn't have. There are sidewalks on all sides of it so there is no need to "walk thru it" unless there is a path there now - doubtful b/c it's probably owned by some developer not wanting to drop a penny into the land.

[katherine phillips]

Adnoid,
R U familiar with South Meadows?

[christine2448]

Katherine, welcome to WS.


Please check your private messages.

[Rolex]

I haven't posted here for a long time. I live here in Sparks, Wingfield Springs area. I have co-workers with daughters who go th UNR. I am sick and heartbroken about this outcome. I have two daughters ages 15 and 17 (one that has the same name) and I can not even imagine what Brianna's family is going thru..We are just all completely heartbroken that some bastard has taken such an innocent, young and beautiful girl. It is a sad world we live in....

I want to add that our Reno Police Investigation Team is one of the best and we will catch this killer. We are all watching and he will be caught and brought to justice.

[Fairy1]

Just emailed my friend asking what the scuttlebutt is at work and if it was an employee walking at lunch. Rumor mill is usually ripe there so hopefully we'll hear something. An eerie feeling came over me and I said it ti my friend in the email...I hope this creep doesn't work there@!!!! They keep mentioning my company in the news but it's really not the closest of all the bldgs,...it just has the most name recognition. The Charter cable office bulding is closer.
From live video, it looks like the brush was low engough to be seen over. I don't think people in work clothes would be walking thru the icky field. I certainly wouldn't have. There are sidewalks on all sides of it so there is no need to "walk thru it" unless there is a path there now - doubtful b/c it's probably owned by some developer not wanting to drop a penny into the land.

Hello Katherine. Do you know if these the type of businesses that would have surveillance cameras outside?

[katherine phillips]

I think some of the businesses would have surveillance cameras. Charter Cable office is nearby. Not sure any one office bldg would have been close enough to dump spot to see that. But, surrounding offices might show traffic. The 2 rectangular, identical looking low white bldgs are a smattering of little shops....dry cleaner, sandwich shop, and tai kwon doe, but there is also a coin distributer I believe, who might have a camera outside. These 2 bldgs which look to be the closest to the dump site are somewhat older (compared to all the development there) so they may not have cameras though. The traffic lights might have cameras. I think that will only help if they know approx. time of death and then look during off hours.. wee morning or the like when he would have dumped.

[katherine phillips]

signing off...let's hope for closure

[Fairy1]

I think some of the businesses would have surveillance cameras. Charter Cable office is nearby. Not sure any one office bldg would have been close enough to dump spot to see that. But, surrounding offices might show traffic. The 2 rectangular, identical looking low white bldgs are a smattering of little shops....dry cleaner, sandwich shop, and tai kwon doe, but there is also a coin distributer I believe, who might have a camera outside. These 2 bldgs which look to be the closest to the dump site are somewhat older (compared to all the development there) so they may not have cameras though. The traffic lights might have cameras. I think that will only help if they know approx. time of death and then look during off hours.. wee morning or the like when he would have dumped.

Thank you so much. I pray LE is scouring whatever tapes there may be for what they need to lock this up! I feel pretty sure they can narrow down the date(s). I'm so sorry if this is Brianna.

[Mygirlsadie]

How much of Brianna would even be left after being exposed for over a month? Remember after 9 days Jessie Davis was almost skelatal already.

[adnoid]

Adnoid,
R U familiar with South Meadows?

Yes - I live in Curti Ranch, so I know the area pretty well.

[adnoid]

How much of Brianna would even be left after being exposed for over a month? Remember after 9 days Jessie Davis was almost skelatal already.

It's been pretty cold up here for a while, which would help with preservation.

[adnoid]

Just took the dog for a walk - it's 37 degrees. I can still see the flashing police lights in the South Meadows area (visually I've got a straight shot if I walk a little ways from my house and I'm higher in elevation), so it looks like they've been there all night.

[teacherbonnie]

Good AM all. I sure don't know what they hope to find. I think it was all done very quickly to avoid being seen. Not likely the perp left anything behind that will help locate him, besides evidence on the body.

About decomp...they said right away "female" so that tells us something.

[lew657]

I hope for her family this isn't Brianna but I think we are all pretty sure it will be. Since the dump location is so out in the open the perp had to of wanted her body to be found. I just pray he hasn't been holding her all this time and just killed/dumped her.

One thing that has been bothering me since the DNA evidence was first reported. There was never any clear detail about where the DNA was - what has been in the back of my mind is that these aren't related cases. This house seems to have the traffic flow of some small airports - with the rapes being so close to school I have just been worried that the rapist had been in the house visiting and something entirely different happened to Brianna.

[teacherbonnie]

Interesting. I do agree that the perp could have been in the home at another time but I also believe in the reported events. The DNA match came from some surface and the word "oily" or "oil" was used and it was quickly dropped. We may be learning more about the DNA today.

[newshound81]

So much of my time has been occupied by this case in the last month. Nearly everyday I've searched the 'Net and this site for updates. I can't believe they found a body. I was hoping for some break, but not this.

I think if this is Brianna, she was recently dumped there. I think she was probably killed quickly after she was taken and her body was kept somewhere and her killer just decided to get rid of it this week. Maybe this is one of the people whose DNA is backlogged in the system who is feeling the heat from the RPD and panicked. If that's the case, maybe this case will be solved quickly at least.

[guestwriter]

I think some of the businesses would have surveillance cameras. Charter Cable office is nearby. Not sure any one office bldg would have been close enough to dump spot to see that. But, surrounding offices might show traffic. The 2 rectangular, identical looking low white bldgs are a smattering of little shops....dry cleaner, sandwich shop, and tai kwon doe, but there is also a coin distributer I believe, who might have a camera outside. These 2 bldgs which look to be the closest to the dump site are somewhat older (compared to all the development there) so they may not have cameras though. The traffic lights might have cameras. I think that will only help if they know approx. time of death and then look during off hours.. wee morning or the like when he would have dumped.

Katherine is there a building close by with a number 6 on it? I kept seeing a large number 6 in my meditations. Thanks...

[guestwriter]

[quote=adnoid;1980087]Here's about where I was when I took that
But if you zoom out you can get an idea how the town is situated in relation to the surrounding mountains and open areas. I live on the south end of town, pretty much the opposite end of town from where Brianna was taken. Here's a map showing about where I live (A) (I'm not giving out my address, obviously, due to weirdos) and where Brianna was abducted (B):

Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=curti+ranch+road+%26+equestrian,+reno,+nv&daddr=1395+mackay,+reno,+nv&sll=39.523111,-119.804535&sspn=0.093749,0.144367&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=12&om=0)

You can also see where the airport is in relation to town - the route the map shows (if I did it right) goes by the departure end of Runway 25, the first end of the runway I visited in the pictures above.

She was found not far from where this map ends...I wonder how long she has been there.....a week or so maybe...so sad..

[close_enough]

i heard last night that the actual dump site of the body was about 100' from an actual road....they think the perp had to carry the body out into the field....i think this was on NG...one of the talking heads

[concernedperson]

i heard last night that the actual dump site of the body was about 100' from an actual road....they think the perp had to carry the body out into the field....i think this was on NG...one of the talking heads

This is good because they may be able to get more forensics from the remains. I just think of all the material that was in Hilton's van that will be nailing him to other crimes.

[adnoid]

i heard last night that the actual dump site of the body was about 100' from an actual road....they think the perp had to carry the body out into the field....i think this was on NG...one of the talking heads

The print edition of the RGJ says that this morning, too, while yesterday they were saying the body was "about a car length" from the edge of the lot. Also, the local office folks say that the field was covered in snow until just a couple days ago. The weather has warmed quite a bit in the last week, but I still have snow on my front lawn.

I'm going to see if I can run down there real quick as it's getting light. I'll look for the number "6" for you, guestwriter.

[close_enough]

This is good because they may be able to get more forensics from the remains. I just think of all the material that was in Hilton's van that will be nailing him to other crimes.

that's what i was thinking last night also, CP....hope they nab this guy soon

[close_enough]

this may have been posted already...sorry if it's a repeat...wanted to update..

The remains were found about 100 feet from the curb of Sandhill Road.

more at link below....

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080215/NEWS18/80215054&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[SuziQ]

I'm not finding anything new reported yet this morning. Along the way I did see that there will be a presser today, no time announced. The ID shouldn't take long. Dentals will be done quickly.

[teacherbonnie]

I was shocked, too, at all the stuff Hilton's van contained. So much purple and teal and a few pink items.

If this IS Brianna, all the workers and any who have any business there, will be carefully eyeing vehicles and faces. It's almost like a new starting point.

[guestwriter]

The print edition of the RGJ says that this morning, too, while yesterday they were saying the body was "about a car length" from the edge of the lot. Also, the local office folks say that the field was covered in snow until just a couple days ago. The weather has warmed quite a bit in the last week, but I still have snow on my front lawn.

I'm going to see if I can run down there real quick as it's getting light. I'll look for the number "6" for you, guestwriter.

****I felt that she was in the opposite direction from where she was taken...In the southeast direction from McKay Ct. I had no logical reason to think this only felt it...I mentioned to my contact in Reno that I picked up the name Long...didn't know if it was his name ..I thought it might be until I saw Longley St on the map and told my contact that maybe Longley st was the connection. I see where this street is not far from where this body was found. I had alot of pieces just putting them together was difficult.....I felt she was alive for a good while up until about a week or so ago...and then I started to feel she was gone...

[close_enough]

I'm not finding anything new reported yet this morning. Along the way I did see that there will be a presser today, no time announced. The ID shouldn't take long. Dentals will be done quickly.

this looks like the newest article, imo....

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080215/NEWS18/80215046&theme=BODYFOUND

it states no new info until Saturday (today)

[close_enough]

I was shocked, too, at all the stuff Hilton's van contained. So much purple and teal and a few pink items.

If this IS Brianna, all the workers and any who have any business there, will be carefully eyeing vehicles and faces. It's almost like a new starting point.

i agree....like a new starting point...

[teacherbonnie]

Thanks for the link CE. Good that dogs were brought in yesterday.

In that link is a picture of a group of young women. Their expressions say it all. Those with a connection to Brianna are feeling such anticipation and turmoil.

[adnoid]

****I felt that she was in the opposite direction from where she was taken...In the southeast direction from McKay Ct. I had no logical reason to think this only felt it...I mentioned to my contact in Reno that I picked up the name Long...didn't know if it was his name ..I thought it might be until I saw Longley St on the map and told my contact that maybe Longley st was the connection. I see where this street is not far from where this body was found. I had alot of pieces just putting them together was difficult.....I felt she was alive for a good while up until about a week or so ago...and then I started to feel she was gone...

Well, there's still quite a police presence down there. Clearly there are searchers and/or family there as well, so I did not intrude. It didn't seem right. There are "Find Brianna" posters stuck in the grass by the yellow police tape - so sad.

On Double R, the building to the North of the lot is #9475, to the South is #9805. The big building across the street is A.G. Edwards - which I should have know, but it just didn't click. Couldn't find a "6" anywhere, sorry. But I'll keep it in mind.

[Beyond Belief]

"Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me"

(As recorded by Mac Davis)
MAC DAVIS

Girl you're getting that look in your eyes
And it's starting to worry me
I ain't ready for no family ties
Nobody's gonna hurry me

Just keep it friendly girl
'Cause I don't want to leave
Don't start clinging to me girl
'Cause I can't breathe

Baby, baby don't get hooked on me
Baby, baby don't get hooked on me
'Cause I'll just use you then I'll set you free
Baby, baby don't get hooked on me

Girl you're a hot blooded woman child
And it's warm where you're touching me
But I can tell by your trembling smile
You're seeing way too much in me

Girl don't let your life get tangled up with mine
'Cause I'll just leave you
I can't take no clinging vine

Baby, baby don't get hooked on me
Baby, baby don't get hooked on me
'Cause I'll just use you then I'll set you free
Baby, baby don't get hooked on me

Baby, baby don't get hooked on me
Baby, baby don't get hooked on me
'Cause I'll just use you then I'll set you free
Baby, baby don't get hooked on me.


this is whats playing right now.....

[SuziQ]

An autopsy is scheduled to begin this morning on a woman’s body found Friday in southeast Reno.

Investigators hope the autopsy helps establish the cause and manner of death for the woman found near Sandhill Road and Double R Boulevard shortly after noon. They may also confirm the identity of the body.

The Washoe County Coroner’s Office reports the autopsy is tentatively scheduled for 9 a.m. (more at link)

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216002&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216002&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews)