Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #3

[chicoliving]

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[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, Chico!!

[10EC_Dad]

SS, I was surprised by your comment that you do not blame women for not reporting rape.

If she has stepped forward sooner, Brianna might not have been attacked.

[SeriouslySearching]

RENO, Nev. — DNA evidence has now linked two attacks late last year on women near a university campus to the suspected abduction of a third woman on Jan. 20, and authorities said Thursday they're investigating another 2007 case that could be related.

Already linked to a sexual assault in December, police announced that new DNA evidence ties the suspected abduction of Brianna Denison to a third attack in the same neighborhood in November.

They also released a composite sketch of a suspected rapist in a previously unreported attack in the area in October that investigators said is "not inconsistent" with the descriptions in the other three cases near the campus of the University of Nevada, Reno.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327367,00.html (I bolded that!)

I don't think they should have released this sketch unless they had DNA evidence to back it up. With 3 cases linked, the case could go off track by people looking for the guy in the sketch and he might not be the one!! I guess tho if they find him and get his DNA...they will know then...but they are wasting time when a woman's life is at stake, imo. "Not inconsistent" simply isn't GOOD ENOUGH!!

[SeriouslySearching]

SS, I was surprised by your comment that you do not blame women for not reporting rape.

If she has stepped forward sooner, Brianna might not have been attacked.I feel it has to be up to the woman to decide to press charges against the rapist. Our state just adopted a law which allows a woman to go ahead with the rape kit and file a report with LE, but they give her a period of 60 days to decide to press charges (which also allows her time to get counseling). Other states make it mandatory to press charges if you report a rape...meaning LE takes total control of your very personal situation. So no...I don't lay the blame on women who don't report it. They are trying to cope with their situation and may not be ready to take it full speed ahead at that time. The trauma of going through a rape kit and telling the story repeatedly is a daunting task for any woman who has just been violated in the worst way. The laws need to be changed across the country, imo.

[10EC_Dad]

I feel it has to be up to the woman to decide to press charges against the rapist. Our state just adopted a law which allows a woman to go ahead with the rape kit and file a report with LE, but they give her a period of 60 days to decide to press charges (which also allows her time to get counseling). Other states make it mandatory to press charges if you report a rape...meaning LE takes total control of your very personal situation. So no...I don't lay the blame on women who don't report it. They are trying to cope with their situation and may not be ready to take it full speed ahead at that time. The trauma of going through a rape kit and telling the story repeatedly is a daunting task for any woman who has just been violated in the worst way. The laws need to be changed across the country, imo.

I respect that it is a difficult decision. I would think it would be worse to add the trauma of not helping to prevent another women from experiencing the same torture.

I don't discount the fact that it would take tremendous courage.

[SeriouslySearching]

I think most women with proper counseling would end up pressing charges. So many rapes go unreported entirely because of the laws. You would find more rapists are caught in the long run.

[dimples37398]

Ok from that link SS posted from Foxnews.....why in the world if LE says he doesn't match the description given in the other attacks that are connected did they release this sketch right now?

I don't feel it is the same guy based on the gun, and if in October he went all the way with that victim, then I wonder why he wouldn't use a gun and go all the way with the next victim? Another part of his mo seems to be taking the victims, not really doing it right there......

I just have a feeling this isn't the same guy, although of course I don't know for sure.

[dimples37398]

Also according to this old description first release Dec 19th, It is different compared to the new description of the truck.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/NEWS01/712190448/1016/NEWS


Secret Witness is offering $2,000 for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the man who raped a University of Nevada, Reno student Saturday morning on Virginia Street.
The woman was walking in the 1400 block of North Virginia Street about 3 a.m. when she was attacked from behind, choked unconscious, taken to an unknown location and sexually assaulted.
The man's vehicle was described as an older model, dark single-cab truck with cloth seats and a CD deck.

A different description of the suspect in the December attack, released a few days after happening, this is the link to this article............

http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/12/16/student-kidnapped-sexually-assaulted/



A University of Nevada, Reno student was kidnapped and sexually assaulted after she was attacked on the 1400 block of N. Virginia Street Saturday morning about 3 a.m., university police said in a statement Sunday. The student was attacked from behind, choked until she was unconscious and then taken to an unknown location where she was sexually assaulted.The suspect is described as a heavy-set white male about 30 to 40 years old. He has some facial hair and was wearing a Raider’s t-shirt.The suspect vehicle is a dark, single cab truck with cloth seats and an after-market CD player with blue and red lights. It is described as an older truck. “The victim stated that her keys to her vehicle and residence were taken and that subject may have been prowling in the area days prior to this happening,” according to police.

[SeriouslySearching]

I had posted that a long time ago, Dimples. It was the reason I pointed out that photo of the Sierra truck on that guy's page. The back end was dark blue, single cab, and older. He also had the new truck.

[dimples37398]

Very true SS, I think there have been so many different descriptions of the suspect and the truck that I wonder if LE aren't confused on what exactly they are looking for....

I would think though I am not sure that the earlier descriptions given by the victims would be more accurate.

[Spitball22]

Does anyone else see a resemblence?

http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/thecrimeblotter/files/2008/01/renosuspect_1801.jpg

SUSPECT COMPOSITE SKETCH


http://www.nvsexoffenders.gov/photos/628_127280715960000000.JPG

ALT, BRYAN L.

COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION: TIER LEVEL 2
Date(s) of Birth: 1971
Physical Description
Sex: M
Race: WHITE
Hair Color: BLOND OR STRAWBERRY
Eye Color: HAZEL
Height: 511
Weight: 145

Residence Address:3825 CAMBRIDGE #322LAS VEGAS, NV 89119
Conviction and Incarceration Information
Conviction Date: 1990-10-01
Conviction Location: LAKE HAVASU
Conviction State: AZ
Statute: NRS179D.450 Conviction Description: CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER


He is listed as "Non-Compliant (per NRS 179D.550)"

I presume this means he has not reported his current address in accordance with Nevada State law...

[Rick777]

Honestly...I don't see much of a resemblence...BUT...

Do you remember when that Brian Ladd guy did his drawing?? He said the guy that took Brianna had a funky eye!!!!! weird.

[Spitball22]

Funky eye...now that would be an unfortunate nickname...

I dabbled in police sketching in a former life...I used a computer program called FACES. Sketching is more "art" than science. I recall an arson case wherein I developed a sketch that my colleagues got a great kick out of because it was somewhat comical looking face, but the eyewitness in the case was pretty comfortable with the sketch as being close-to accurate. When the suspect was finally caught I had the last laugh because it was nearly identical! The guy was actually quite goofy-looking...as goofy as the sketch.

I found it helpful if my witness could describe the suspect as looking like someone else...say someone famous for example..."he had a chin like Jay Leno" or "he looked like Jack Nicholson with a long black ponytail" or something like that...

[Reannan]

This sketch doesn't have the hair on the chin like we have been looking for. :confused:

[SuziQ]

lol, you all are cracking me up this morning.

Spitball22, thanks for the info about how sketches are done.

[SuziQ]

I don't think they should have released this sketch unless they had DNA evidence to back it up. With 3 cases linked, the case could go off track by people looking for the guy in the sketch and he might not be the one!! I guess tho if they find him and get his DNA...they will know then...but they are wasting time when a woman's life is at stake, imo. "Not inconsistent" simply isn't GOOD ENOUGH!!

I agree and IMO, that sketch will confuse people. The chin is wrong for one thing.

[nanandjim]

SS, I was surprised by your comment that you do not blame women for not reporting rape.

If she has stepped forward sooner, Brianna might not have been attacked.
I think that, in this case, the only way this kidnapping would have been prevented is if police reported it to the news media. Oftentimes, it doesn't get "publicized." This rapist hasn't been caught because his DNA is not on file (at least, at this point). So, I'm not so sure that it would have helped Brianna. I think that the publicity is helping others; and I hope that this particular rapist (possible murderer) is caught.

[nanandjim]

...I just have a feeling this isn't the same guy, although of course I don't know for sure.
That was my initial thought. LE may be trying to lump all of the unsolved rape cases on one person. I don't think that is the case.

[Reannan]

Volunteers are out looking for trucks that possibly match the description - and turning in the information to LE.

"The information collected by hundreds of volunteers and police officers looking for a missing 19-year-old student will be used to create a map locating vehicles similar to one that might have been used in a related crime.
More than 170 volunteers on Thursday waded through empty lots, dug in dumpsters, distributed fliers, answered phones and jotted down license plate numbers of vehicles that match the description of one used in a Dec. 16 abduction and rape of University of Nevada, Reno student. .......

Every extended cab truck and sport utility vehicle with a high clearance is suspect. When Jarrod Brolsma, 27, saw volunteers walking toward his extended-cab truck he said, "I don't look like I'm 5'6," referencing to a description of the suspect."

http://tinyurl.com/2xu8s7

[StillHoping]

Volunteers are out looking for trucks that possibly match the description - and turning in the information to LE.

"The information collected by hundreds of volunteers and police officers looking for a missing 19-year-old student will be used to create a map locating vehicles similar to one that might have been used in a related crime.
More than 170 volunteers on Thursday waded through empty lots, dug in dumpsters, distributed fliers, answered phones and jotted down license plate numbers of vehicles that match the description of one used in a Dec. 16 abduction and rape of University of Nevada, Reno student. .......

Every extended cab truck and sport utility vehicle with a high clearance is suspect. When Jarrod Brolsma, 27, saw volunteers walking toward his extended-cab truck he said, "I don't look like I'm 5'6," referencing to a description of the suspect."

http://tinyurl.com/2xu8s7 (http://tinyurl.com/2xu8s7)

LOL. And everyone was all worked up here at WS about turning in a tip about a myspace page. Sorry, I had to find the humor in that.
I'm just glad that they are working hard and trying anything to find Brianna.

[JDB]

Just a suggestion here. But if you are going to show people's faces here that might look like the sketch. It might be wise to keep the name off.

[Reannan]

Just a suggestion here. But if you are going to show people's faces here that might look like the sketch. It might be wise to keep the name off.

Not if they are convicted sex offenders. There name, picture, and any other vital statistic should be posted on billboards IMHO. :eek:

[nanandjim]

...The suspect is described as a heavy-set white male about 30 to 40 years old. He has some facial hair and was wearing a Raider’s t-shirt.The suspect vehicle is a dark, single cab truck with cloth seats...
Doesn't the guy in the Myspace have a truck w/extended cab and not single cab? He does meet the physical criteria.

[SeriouslySearching]

He has both, if the truck his wife was working on is his.

[SeriouslySearching]

“The victim stated that her keys to her vehicle and residence were taken and that subject may have been prowling in the area days prior to this happening,” according to police.

http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007...lly-assaulted/

Did they change the locks on her house and that is why her house key didn't work? He gets angry and starts trying to beat the lock off?

[SeriouslySearching]

Spitball~ I have checked it out the FACES program in the past and while I think it is a great tool to use for a rough sketch...I have found it doesn't have the nuances an artist can bring to the table. Is this the way they use it or do they just go off what you can create with the program?

[bigbuck]

Not if they are convicted sex offenders. There name, picture, and any other vital statistic should be posted on billboards IMHO. :eek:

Right on Reannan! It should be open season on these scumbags. Once they have commited these terrible acts, they've flushed their rights down the toilet. Let the ACLU try to protect their worthless hides. Not us!

:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

[SeriouslySearching]

Just a suggestion here. But if you are going to show people's faces here that might look like the sketch. It might be wise to keep the name off.Wouldn't it be great while in the course of investigations we locate these absconded sex offenders?! They are not following the guidelines to live out in the public and need to be found. ;)

[bigbuck]

Wouldn't it be great while in the course of investigations we locate these absconded sex offenders?! They are not following the guidelines to live out in the public and need to be found. ;)

Even better if they"re caught by one of us phoning in a tip about their Myspace profile!

:woohoo:

[SeriouslySearching]

Myspace has a new policy where they are working with various states to remove any known sex offenders. At least they are cooperating now.

[Rick777]

Myspace has a new policy where they are working with various states to remove any known sex offenders. At least they are cooperating now.


I'm not sure if thats a good thing? They can be caught and sent to jail if they are tracked on there.

[gaia227]

Hi All - been keeping up with this ever since it happened. I am missing something though - was Brianna sleeping on the couch in the living room? Or was it a couch/loveseat in a bedroom? My impression is that she was sleeping in the living room which is why she was so easily viewable through the glass doors. If this is the case then I have a hard time believing the perp would be brazen enough to sexually assault/rape her right there probably knowing there were other people in the house. That is extremely risky. I would imagine he subdued her somehow and took her out of the house. Have the LE said if the blood on the pillow was her blood or his blood. It is possible she bit him, got blood on the bear and the pillow. He didn't notice the blood on the pillow but took the bear because of that reason. Or possibly LE found a hair. Does anyone follow me on this? I just have a hard time accepting he assaulted her right there and no one heard a thing or accepting he was brazen enough to do that in the first place.
Did anyone happen to watch Cold Case last night about the serial rapist in Florida they caught a few years ago? He would stalk single women, break into their houses, rape them, sometimes stay for hours cuddling and talking to them and then leave. By the time they caught him he had raped over twenty women. My point being it sounds like the REno PD might have a similar case on their hands, a serial raper. Hopefully with all the publicity Brianna's case has gotten it has scared him enough to lay low and not attack any more women.
I just can't believe how seemingly careless these girls were about their safety. I would NEVER sleep in front glass doors without the blinds closed much less with the unlocked. It is sad they had to learn the hard way. I hope Brianna is found alive but obviously it doesn't look good.
Has anyone seen anything from her parents? I haven't seen much about them out searching for her or doing the talk show circuit but admittedly I have not really looked either.

[Rick777]

I'm with you Gaia. I don't see the assault happening at the house.

[bigbuck]

Myspace has a new policy where they are working with various states to remove any known sex offenders. At least they are cooperating now.

They damn well better cooperate. Myspace has become a smorgasboard for these sharks that feed on our young, naive, and innocent. Oh look, now I'm myspace BASHING too.

:)

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome to WS, Gaia~ Yes, she was sleeping on the sofa in the living room in plain view of not one, but 3 doors and windows. The doors were commonly left unlocked because of the roomate situation (You are right...very bad idea).

The blood was about the size of a silver dollar and it was identified as being Brianna's. They did recover DNA matching the perp, but only alluded to it being from the oils on his hands (it was a leather sofa). I would assume this means they also have his fingerprints. They have no doubt he is a serial rapist as they have his DNA placing him at 3 incidents so far.

The uncle is the spokeperson for the family and has been in the media several times.

I agree...I think his pattern is clear that he takes them somewhere else to sexually attack them. It doesn't look good for Brianna right now, but they have to find him to find her.

[nanandjim]

He has both, if the truck his wife was working on is his.
Plus, he could have used someone's truck (even company truck). However, because of the baby shoe, I think that it is a personal truck. Maybe, the baby shoe was in his wife's vehicle.

We saw that it only took Edwin Hall one hour to abduct, drive to a place to rape, torture and murder Kelsey Smith, then drive to Macy's and leave her vehicle and walk to his truck in the Target parking lot.

They are showing the composite on Fox News. I'm not sure that this is the guy who is responsible for taking Brianna. What do I know, though? I am not privy to all of the police information.

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm not sure if thats a good thing? They can be caught and sent to jail if they are tracked on there.That is what they are doing. They arrest them after Myspace has allowed them to search the records and they can prove they had a page where they are violating the guidelines. : ) Before, Myspace was not allowing them access to those records to even check for sex offenders without specific warrants.

[nanandjim]

He has both, if the truck his wife was working on is his.
Plus, he could have used someone's truck (even company truck). However, because of the baby shoe, I think that it is a personal truck. Maybe, the baby shoe was in his wife's vehicle.

We saw that it only took Edwin Hall one hour to abduct, drive to a place to rape, torture and murder Kelsey Smith, then drive to Macy's and leave her vehicle and walk to his truck in the Target parking lot.

They are showing the composite on Fox News. I'm not sure that this is the guy who is responsible for taking Brianna. What do I know, though? I am not privy to all of the police information.

[SeriouslySearching]

Plus, he could have used someone's truck (even company truck). However, because of the baby shoe, I think that it is a personal truck. Maybe, the baby shoe was in his wife's vehicle.

We saw that it only took Edwin Hall one hour to abduct, drive to a place to rape, torture and murder Kelsey Smith, then drive to Macy's and leave her vehicle and walk to his truck in the Target parking lot.

They are showing the composite on Fox News. I'm not sure that this is the guy who is responsible for taking Brianna. What do I know, though? I am not privy to all of the police information.I only wish they could come across video tape of this guy in his truck. It was the tape that led LE to Hall. The neighbors recognized it and then put 2 plus2 together.

I would love it if you were privy to all of their information, Nan! Then again, it would drive me nuts because you couldn't share it. :crazy:

I think LE is only going on location and the fact she was raped. Outside of that, I am not finding many similiarities in the MO. The gun really bothers me in this respect. If it worked once for him to be successful in a rape, he is going to use it again, imo. The other three never mentioned a weapon.

[Jade]

LOL. And everyone was all worked up here at WS about turning in a tip about a myspace page. Sorry, I had to find the humor in that.
I'm just glad that they are working hard and trying anything to find Brianna.

I kept thinking of Liz Lemon on 30 Rock turning her neighbor in to Homeland Security.

~Better safe than sorry~

[SeriouslySearching]

For those of you that have the myspace guy's site, take a look at the sketch and the photos of guy with the guitar and the one in the heart shape. The eyebrows aren't as thin, but there is a similarity there. He also colors his hair frequently. Hmmmm...

[Leviosa]

Is it just me or am I incorrect with my logic? It seems that in a very short period of time four or more assaults of relative magnitude occur within blocks of each other. Moreover, within hours of Brianna's abduction it is quite apparent that Dec-victim has an attempted break-in? Are the Reno LE agencies either too thick or just severely mismanaged?

There can be no excuse whatsoever for them NOT to have had a cruiser or two in that area. Period.

Next question: What, why, on earth is a female person walking on a residential street at 3:00am?

[Leviosa]

Another question:

Sorry…I don't mean to go in any direction unless it is to find Brianna. However, Dec-victim states information about the truck, cd/radio player, and feels as though her assailant may have been trolling the neighborhood for days prior to the assault. Where does that come from? I don't mean paper, or source, I mean what would make a girl feel as though someone had been trolling their neighborhood?

Furthermore, if she felt this way...why was she out on a walk? Does anyone think she'd seen the perp before the assault?

Leviosa

[Reannan]

I think in a college town, you would routinely find a girl walking on the streets at 3:00 am. They went to a party, and for whatever reason, decide to go home rather than spend the night. It isn't safe, but I don't think the rest of the world thinks like we do. KansasCutie, don't you agree???

[Reannan]

For those of you that have the myspace guy's site, take a look at the sketch and the photos of guy with the guitar and the one in the heart shape. The eyebrows aren't as thin, but there is a similarity there. He also colors his hair frequently. Hmmmm...

I just don't think the sketch looks very much like the guy on MySpace, or for that matter, looks very much like the first description we received. The man in the sketch doesn't have what I would consider a "long face with a square chin" that is covered in soft hair that is 1/2 to 1 inches long. I think it may be two different people.

[SeriouslySearching]

I believe the answer is they are young and feel invincible. I remind college age girls constantly of the dangers they face, but their response is always the same..."Nothing is going to happen to me!! You worry too much!" or I hear, "I am not going to let fear rule my life". Both answers tell me they are taking unneccessary risks with their safety.

[nanandjim]

For those of you that have the myspace guy's site, take a look at the sketch and the photos of guy with the guitar and the one in the heart shape. The eyebrows aren't as thin, but there is a similarity there. He also colors his hair frequently. Hmmmm...
I also noticed the changing of the hair color frequently and wondered if this was to change his appearance.

[Reannan]

Well, LE is certainly getting a lot of tips, and they are asking some of the guys to submit a DNA sample. Interesting.....

"The Reno police department continues to follow up on "hundreds" of leads. They have interviewed sex offenders in the area and have asked some men identified through tip lines as possible suspects to submit voluntary DNA samples, which he described as an "easy, quick, unobtrusive process" for eliminating someone. "

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=4227385&page=1

[SeriouslySearching]

Obviously, it is. But it might not be for sinister reasons. Altho, I don't know many men over the age of 30 that find the desire to dye their hair repeatedly.

[SeriouslySearching]

Reannan, it reminds me of that case on the East coast where they practically had the entire town of males submit to DNA testing (800, IIRC) and they did end up with a match from the garbage collector who they found guilty of the murder.

[jennyjwv]

Obviously, it is. But it might not be for sinister reasons. Altho, I don't know many men over the age of 30 that find the desire to dye their hair repeatedly.

especially a family man w/kids and such - he seems to still be in fully party mode @ that rate - not that you can't party @ that age but i would rather be home w/my husband and kid than out in bars etc......

[SeriouslySearching]

It was the only one of the four cases in which the suspect flashed a weapon -- a silver and black handgun.

That victim described the suspect as roughly in his 30s, with a square chin and muscular build.

Near the scene of the attack, authorities found a box of Trojan brand condoms that McDonald said the man may have dropped as he fled.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=4227385&page=1

These points don't match sketch guy...unless they are witholding the fact he wore a condom in that attack. He doesn't look in his 30s to me, no facial hair, no square chin, a weapon was used, and no mention of his shaved "area".

[SeriouslySearching]

I am curious about the condoms found. Looking at the photo there seems to be a dark stain on the lower package. Anyone notice that? Could it be blood?

Does a rapist stop long enough to put on a condom while trying to control his victim? How is it possible? I understand he would not want to leave such DNA behind, but I would think he would be too busy holding her down with her fighting him.

[murdershewrote]

What are the details of the fourth case, I guess I missed that? I thought there were 3...one young girl gets fondled/groped; Asian girl gets sexually assaulted (oral sex) and she is the one whose house gets broken into, and then Brianna...who is the fourth? I had never heard a gun was involved in the others.

[Spitball22]

Spitball~ I have checked it out the FACES program in the past and while I think it is a great tool to use for a rough sketch...I have found it doesn't have the nuances an artist can bring to the table. Is this the way they use it or do they just go off what you can create with the program?
Very true, the artist can bring much more to a rendering than the FACES program. In my case, I have the drawing skills of a wild boar, so a FACES-type program is the only way I could even attempt something like that. Being a very small department (40 Sworn Officers, 4 of which were Detectives) we all tended to wear multiple hats...so even as much as a novice as I was, it was the best we could do. Had it been a higher profile case, say a case involving a death, we'd have solicited the assistance of a "professional" sketch artist to do the heavy pencil lifting.

[SeriouslySearching]

What are the details of the fourth case, I guess I missed that? I thought there were 3...one young girl gets fondled/groped; Asian girl gets sexually assaulted (oral sex) and she is the one whose house gets broken into, and then Brianna...who is the fourth? I had never heard a gun was involved in the others.The last one reported including the sketch.

RENO, Nev. — Reno police released a composite sketch of a suspected rapist linked to a sexual assault in the area where a 19-year-old college student disappeared.

The sketch is "not inconsistent" with suspect descriptions in three other sexual assault cases near the University of Nevada, Reno campus, investigators say.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327507,00.html

That is what I am saying...there WAS no gun used in the other 3 attacks. I think LE is grasping at straws and it worries me.

[SeriouslySearching]

Very true, the artist can bring much more to a rendering than the FACES program. In my case, I have the drawing skills of a wild boar, so a FACES-type program is the only way I could even attempt something like that. Being a very small department (40 Sworn Officers, 4 of which were Detectives) we all tended to wear multiple hats...so even as much as a novice as I was, it was the best we could do. Had it been a higher profile case, say a case involving a death, we'd have solicited the assistance of a "professional" sketch artist to do the heavy pencil lifting.Very interesting!! Glad you caught your goofy looking perp, too!! WTG!

[murdershewrote]

SS, thanks for clearing that up for me....I agree, doesn't make sense that in the Oct attack, a gun was used and then in the later attacks, no weapon was used. Sounds like unrelated crimes to me.

[Rick777]

SS, thanks for clearing that up for me....I agree, doesn't make sense that in the Oct attack, a gun was used and then in the later attacks, no weapon was used. Sounds like unrelated crimes to me.



Unless.........he was using a fake gun.

[SeriouslySearching]

Unless.........he was using a fake gun.It is possible. Still, wouldn't you think he would have used the same tactic of "flashing a gun" (even if fake) to the other vics especially the one that kept screaming and he finally kicked her then took off?

[KansasCutie]

I think in a college town, you would routinely find a girl walking on the streets at 3:00 am. They went to a party, and for whatever reason, decide to go home rather than spend the night. It isn't safe, but I don't think the rest of the world thinks like we do. KansasCutie, don't you agree???

Yeah definitely.
I've actually done it more than a few times (not the smartest ideas ive had in my lifetime)

Just a few weekends ago i got into a HUGE fight with a guy whos apartment we planned on passing out at & we didnt have my car because we took a taxi from the bar to get there and our phones had also died & he kicked us out so we had noo choice but to walk allll the way to our apartment. It took us so long! Worst night of my life.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, another thing girls don't realize...they should NEVER go out without a fully charged phone. Their life could depend on it.

[KansasCutie]

Yes, another thing girls don't realize...they should NEVER go out without a fully charged phone. Their life could depend on it.

Mines always fully charged when i go out but by 3-4am it dies.

[SeriouslySearching]

Then you need a new battery or one of those energizer battery packs so you can recharge your phone on the go. :)

[Rick777]

The more I compare these crimes....the more I think two diff people are involved.

[SeriouslySearching]

I wish we had news on the progress today.

[philamena]

http://www.plumasnews.com/news_story.edi?sid=5945

SNIP
Anderson was home in Graeagle only briefly, having come from Reno where she was participating in organized search parties for her cousin. She was returning to the searches in the morning but came home to ask her community for volunteers to help search.

[murdershewrote]

so glad to hear that these searches have finally gotten going...unfortunatley the Reno/Lake Tahoe area is mountains, lake, and lots of forest areas so it's a difficult search area. I hope we hear something over the weekend.

[philamena]

Me to murdershewrote...me to.

[chicoliving]

Not to mention all the snow that's been dumped on the area just this past week. sigh

[SeriouslySearching]

I hope that quarry is checked out with a fine toothed comb.

[Reannan]

Did we confirm that the big white square thing is a quary?

[MeoW333]

What time were all these rapes in the area around? Were they all around late night/early morning hours? The culprit may be nocturnal or trying to work around his own work schedule.

[SeriouslySearching]

Did we confirm that the big white square thing is a quary?We think so...since Mark F. mentioned one being right near there.

[SeriouslySearching]

What time were all these rapes in the area around? Were they all around late night/early morning hours? The culprit may be nocturnal or trying to work around his own work schedule.Going to make me go search aren't you, Meo? :)

*Jan. 20 Brianna's abduction happened sometime after 4:26am and 9:00am .

*Jan. 19 at 5 a.m.: an unknown suspect unsuccessfully attempted to break into the home of the December victim

*Dec. 16 sexual assault and kidnapping that happened in December. In that case, a UNR student was kidnapped and sexually assaulted while she was walking home around 2 a.m.

*Nov. 13 at 5:55 a.m.: a female was battered and sexually groped in the 400 black of College Drive

*Oct. 22 Garcia said the latest woman told police she was attacked at about 10 p.m. on on the first floor of the parking garage just south of the arena where the Nevada basketball team plays.

[Reannan]

What time were all these rapes in the area around? Were they all around late night/early morning hours? The culprit may be nocturnal or trying to work around his own work schedule.

October 22, 2007 - 10:00 p.m. (rape in parking garage of UNR - gun involved)
November 13, 2007 - 5:40 p.m. (unsuccessful assault - condoms found)
December 16, 2007 - 2:00 a.m. (assault)
January 19, 2008 4:00 a.m. (attempted break in)
January 20, 2008 - 4:30 a.m. (Brianna goes missing)

The sketch originated from the October incident.

[KR2tonenow]

Does anyone else see a resemblence?

http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/thecrimeblotter/files/2008/01/renosuspect_1801.jpg

SUSPECT COMPOSITE SKETCH


http://www.nvsexoffenders.gov/photos/628_127280715960000000.JPG

ALT, BRYAN L.

COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION: TIER LEVEL 2
Date(s) of Birth: 1971
Physical Description
Sex: M
Race: WHITE
Hair Color: BLOND OR STRAWBERRY
Eye Color: HAZEL
Height: 511
Weight: 145

Residence Address:3825 CAMBRIDGE #322LAS VEGAS, NV 89119
Conviction and Incarceration Information
Conviction Date: 1990-10-01
Conviction Location: LAKE HAVASU
Conviction State: AZ
Statute: NRS179D.450 Conviction Description: CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER


He is listed as "Non-Compliant (per NRS 179D.550)"

I presume this means he has not reported his current address in accordance with Nevada State law...


The eyes appear different. The sketch above eyes, have a slant to them
(possibly asian/caucasian)?

[Rick777]

Total funky eye.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, he does have one of those. LOL

No, this guy is definitely NOT Asian.

[SuziQ]

Total funky eye.

Omg, I'm still laughing about funky eye and Spitballs comical composite.

[SeriouslySearching]

LOL It is rather funny about the goofy guy composite.

I wonder if this guy is even still around Reno tho. It seems when a sex offender wants to remain "off the grid"...they go to another area, don't they?

[KR2tonenow]

Did anyone catch what Greta had to say tonite on "On the Record"? Something about Reno college students....:confused: thanks!

[Reannan]

I didn't catch it because I rarely watch TV anymore.....it is all old news, thanks to the people here and at Huff's site!!! :)

[SeriouslySearching]

I didn't catch it because I rarely watch TV anymore.....it is all old news, thanks to the people here and at Huff's site!!! :)You are SO spoiled. LOL

I missed it myself. I will have to try to catch it later. Thanks for the tip tho!!

[LookOut]

I respect that it is a difficult decision. I would think it would be worse to add the trauma of not helping to prevent another women from experiencing the same torture.



I absolutely agree wit that statement!

[SuziQ]

AMW is in town and I found the below comment interesting:
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080202/NEWS/80201084/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

(snip)
McDonald said police also are looking into divorce records and birth records for individuals who might have a connection to a child indicated by a baby shoe observed in the vehicle.
“This person isn’t a ghost in the community,” McDonald said. “Somebody out there should be able to put two and two and two together ...

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe it would help if LE put it out in the media the size of the baby shoe and further description. This would give a stronger indication of the age of the child and narrow it down even further. (This could be done by drawing a sketch of the shoe and the victim drawing a line as to what she felt the length was.)

[philamena]

But how would they know the size of the shoe?
I thought the victim saw the show in the car and told LE about it...sorry if I'm mistaken.

[JDB]

But how would they know the size of the shoe?
I thought the victim saw the show in the car and told LE about it...sorry if I'm mistaken.


No you are correct. The LE do not have the baby shoe. So I really do not see how they can release info they do not have.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, but she could draw on a piece of paper how big she thinks it was and all the details of the shoe itself to lead to maybe a brand. I didn't mean exact size! LOL A 1 yo's shoe is going to be a lot different from a 6 mo's shoe, for instance. I guess I want them to define their terminology of "baby" shoe.

[panthera]

October 22, 2007 - 10:00 p.m. (rape in parking garage of UNR - gun involved)
November 13, 2007 - 5:40 p.m. (unsuccessful assault - condoms found)
December 16, 2007 - 2:00 a.m. (assault)
January 19, 2008 4:00 a.m. (attempted break in)
January 20, 2008 - 4:30 a.m. (Brianna goes missing)

The sketch originated from the October incident.
Hi everyone :) I don't see the resemblance between the sketch and the description of the guy involved in the Dec. 16 assault. Unless I've missed something wasn't a gun involved only in the Oct. incident? I think it's a totally different suspect.

[SeriouslySearching]

Hi everyone :) I don't see the resemblance between the sketch and the description of the guy involved in the Dec. 16 assault. Unless I've missed something wasn't a gun involved only in the Oct. incident? I think it's a totally different suspect.Yes, no weapons used in the others. I agree it is a totally different suspect. They have possibly derailed Brianna's case with the sketch, imo. :mad:

[panthera]

Yes, no weapons used in the others. I agree it is a totally different suspect. They have possibly derailed Brianna's case with the sketch, imo. :mad:
No facial hair either and didn't the Dec. 16 victim say she didn't see his face clearly, or at least she gave a vague description. Why would the perp allow himself to be visible with one attack and then not with a subsequent one when no connection had been made then?

[Reannan]

Surely, they have showed the sketch to the November and December victims. I would think the November victim who kicked him in the head (:clap: ) and caused him to run away would have a decent recall of what he looked like, right??:waitasec:

[panthera]

Surely, they have showed the sketch to the November and December victims. I would think the November victim who kicked him in the head (:clap: ) and caused him to run away would have a decent recall of what he looked like, right??:waitasec:
I'd think so too! I wonder what physical description she can provide?

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, we seem to be missing her take on the perp. She would have noticed if his "area" was shaven, too.

[LionRun]

Yes, we seem to be missing her take on the perp. She would have noticed if his "area" was shaven, too.

True, but if this attack happened a while back and this is the right perp maybe he had not yet begun to shave his pubic area. Also, more often a perp begins his, "career" and escalates in his use of weapons than the reverse. But, it may be possible that he initially brought a gun and realised he didn't need it to get off on his attacks. It is not likely, but it is possible. I am focusing on the three that we know are related and keeping the unknown with the weapon as a possible. At least if the unknown weapon attacker is caught he could at least be ruled in or out.

Lion

[MysteryAddict]

Yes, no weapons used in the others. I agree it is a totally different suspect. They have possibly derailed Brianna's case with the sketch, imo. :mad:

Oh yes, this has been worrying me too.
They keep showing a sketch of a guy who does NOT have a square chin!

He doesn't fit the description of the guy we were looking for until the Oct. victim came along!

[olympicprincess]

I caught the very end of a story of Bri on a national news channel today that was back to the original description of a beige or tan Suburban, man in 40s, etc.

I thought that guy was already cleared? :confused:

[SeriouslySearching]

You were probably watching a rerun of a broadcast or they messed up somehow...I saw the the same thing yesterday. They did say the guy in the beige truck was cleared as far as I know.

[panthera]

The guy in the Suburban (or whatever) who gave Jessica a ride home that night was cleared. I think some media is confusing it with the suspect description and the perp's extended cab truck/SUV.

[Filly]

America's Most Wanted just ran the story of Brianna. They really emphasized the baby shoe the other girl saw on the floor. Please, please let them find this dear girl safe. They also emphasized the guy shaves his groin area. The other victim also said she had to step DOWN to get out of the vehicle. Meaning it's a truck I guess or SUV.

[guestwriter]

Would like to see the composite of this suspect and compare to the one they feel is Brianna's perp? It says here female VICTIMS (plural). What if this is the same guy and he has been doing this for 4 years...

Sexual Assualt/Burglary W. 11th St.
Case# 04-25801/25985
Secret Witness is offering a reward in the amount of $2,000.00 for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the suspect wanted in connection with the sexual assault and burglary of female victims in the 200 and 600 blocks of West 11th St. Reno, NV. On July 5, 2004 at approximately 11:00 p.m. the female victim reported that she was sleeping in her residence in the 600 block of 11th St. when she was awakened by the suspect touching her leg. The victim screamed and the suspect fled on foot. Also on July 5, 2004 at approximately 4:00 a.m. a female victim was sleeping in her residence in the 200 block of 11th St. when she was awakened by a suspect touching her leg. The suspect restrained the victim and sexually assaulted her before leaving the apartment on foot. Both incidents are believed to have been committed by the same suspect. The suspect is described as a white male adult with an olive complexion or a Hispanic male adult, 16 to 25 years old, approximately 5’10” to 6’1” tall, medium build, short black wavy hair, brown eyes, and possible pierced ears. A composite sketch is available at the Reno Police Department. The Reno Police Department is asking for the public’s assistance in identifying the suspect. Anyone having information relating to this crime or the suspect should contact the Reno Police Department at 325-8040 or Secret Witness at 322-4900.

[philamena]

No you are correct. The LE do not have the baby shoe. So I really do not see how they can release info they do not have.

Thanks JBD!

[Cypros]

I just found out tonight that my cousin is one of the detectives working on thi case. I was wondering if he might be involved.

I haven't been following this case closely but I just watched the AMW coverage. My mom told me that my cousin has been volunteering a lot of extra hours to help with this case. I am sure that the Reno community is alarmed by the fact that this guy has struck a few times in a sort span of time and within a limited area. People living in that neighborhood must be especially nervous since this guy probably lives or at least socializes amongst them. Very scary.

[SeriouslySearching]

Great, Cypros!

[Reannan]

Yea, Cryptos, and tell them to look at our Myspace site!!! I bet they already have - that is why the cousin is putting in overtime. I really do hate the thought of tying up LE's time with stuff we find, but then again - look how long it takes us!!!! It is like looking for a needle in a haystack. The benefit of groups like us, is that we can take a limited amount of information, and we USE it. LE could not possibly dig up the stuff we find. They can dog it down, but digging it up is an avenue that we can truly excel at!!!

[Leviosa]

Speaking of MySpace...not only does the individual fit this particular physical description, moreover, the facts of a newborn, and at least three trucks as I can see are just a little to much for this person NOT to have been checked-out. So maybe LE is 'laying in the weeds'?

One quick theory if you will indulge me: Suppose the perp works out of town say Las Vegas for example and sporadically takes one to three day jobs as a construction worker or even sub-contractor. This would allow him to literally be 'out of town' when crimes were committed; moreover, it would be a great place to either stash or have an accomplice taking care of the 'pet.'

However, before you jump on my theory, consider if you will: Has anyone taken the time to check out this individual's friends list? Comments. Seriously, there must be four or five people on that site alone that make my hair stand on end.

Lastly, what has drawn my attention to this individual is in every picture something is missing: wristwatch. According to the previous victim the perp wore no jewelry. A couple of pics there is a ring; however, not in very many. Just one more thing: I did not mention that in my construction theory it would not be difficult to have arranged for a truck to have been driven and left in Vegas when working with some buddies.

Oops sorry! Remember the UNR student who was successful at warding her attacker off? If, in fact, there is reason to believe that this could be the same perp, she by far would have gotten the best look at this person. And sorry again, but a few of the people at that site have set their profiles to private--which to me is a big red flag.

Go Pat's!

Leviosa

[SeriouslySearching]

AMW is ticking me off!! Someone needs to email them our thread and our findings on the fact that it is NOT rare for someone to shave. GRRRR! I realize I am bringing this up again...so please let's not go off on any more tangents of whys, hows, and all that! I just watched the guy go on and on and on about this while being on Fox with Kimberly Guilfoyle.

The point is that LE needs to realize they should not keep touting this as some huge factor in finding this man when we know it really isn't. The people reporting it obviously don't have a connection with the younger public and simply do not know this is an acceptable practice in this day and age. I do think someone needs to tell them!

[RoughlyCollie]

It always amazes me what I learn from reading here. I had no idea any man ever did this.



AMW is ticking me off!! Someone needs to email them our thread and our findings on the fact that it is NOT rare for someone to shave.

[SeriouslySearching]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58905&page=21

It starts on post 520 roughly, please read...but don't find it neccessary to respond. LOL Took me awhile to get people to STOP discussing it! But there you can find the facts of the "matter".

[Bobbisangel]

Maybe the fad of shaving down below depends on where you live. I have grandchildren of all different ages and I've never heard of teens or men shaving unless they get snipped...my ex when we decided we didn't need any more kids. I don't know of anyone in my son's generation shaving either. I know my son and grandsons would look at me like I had "lost it" if I even asked them about it. Maybe I'll ask just to get a rise out of them...lol.

I think that the shaving is something important for LE to know. Didn't he shave his arms and legs too? Can't remember but it seems there is more then just down below. The guy would have to keep it up everyday or the itching would drive him crazy. According to my ex...it is not easy for a man to shave down there. Doesn't just take a few minutes. It is quite the ordeal.

[SeriouslySearching]

I would like to know if they are any closer to finding Brianna. Where are they with the searches? Did they search the quarry? I think they need to follow the lead of that town in the NE and ask students/coaches/professors from the college fitting the description to voluntarily take DNA tests.

[nanandjim]

,,,The guy would have to keep it up everyday or the itching would drive him crazy. According to my ex...it is not easy for a man to shave down there. Doesn't just take a few minutes. It is quite the ordeal.
I totally agree with your post. I wonder if this guy shaved to avoid leaving evidence anywhere or if he did it for other reasons, as suggested on this thread. :o

[Reannan]

I am encouraged to know that they appear to be trying really hard with their search efforts. They surely, must have searched that quary.


"Volunteers combed neighborhoods and wildlands around Reno in an effort to find any sign of Brianna Denison, who police think was abducted Jan. 20 by a serial rapist linked by DNA to a string of attacks near the University of Nevada, Reno campus. Gibbons spent much of the day with a 14-member team conducting a grid search on the sage-covered lower slopes of Peavine Mountain above northwest Reno. Standing 20 feet apart, team members looked for clothing and other evidence."

"Bob Walcutt, executive director of the Laura Recovery Center based in Friendswood, Texas, said more than 250 volunteers took part Saturday in a police-coordinated search that has gradually fanned out from the university area.
"Police have opened some areas that they would like us to look at and that's where we're turning our attention," said Walcutt, a search coordinator. "We're looking at any place that primarily a person could get in with a vehicle and dump someone."

"The volunteer search for Denison will continue daily at least through next week, but will eventually be scaled back, Dennis said."

http://www.mercurynews.com/nationworld/ci_8155926

[Reannan]

"Just push those clothes out of the way," Gent said as another volunteer climbed in to the back seat of his truck, filled with sweatshirts. "I have a bunch of extra warm clothes just in case we find Brianna today and she's cold." - quote from Mike Gent, a retired Reno police officer who has been leading one of the teams searching for Brianna. He made that statement to someone who was climbing in the back of his truck to help search.

Nice article from Siobhan McAndrew with the Reno Gazette Journal. She has an email, should I ask her to take a look at our MySpace site???

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008802030302

[T-Rex]

Oh--what a heartbreaking line!!

[SeriouslySearching]

Awwww Now that is some positive thinking. It was a very sweet gesture.

Coming from a former policeman, it seems strange because he above all should realize the odds of that happening.

My opinion is to leave it in LE's hands, Reannan. This way we aren't compromising this person.

Thanks for the updates on the searches!! :)

[gardenmom]

Would like to see the composite of this suspect and compare to the one they feel is Brianna's perp? It says here female VICTIMS (plural). What if this is the same guy and he has been doing this for 4 years...

Sexual Assualt/Burglary W. 11th St.
Case# 04-25801/25985
Secret Witness is offering a reward in the amount of $2,000.00 for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the suspect wanted in connection with the sexual assault and burglary of female victims in the 200 and 600 blocks of West 11th St. Reno, NV. On July 5, 2004 at approximately 11:00 p.m. the female victim reported that she was sleeping in her residence in the 600 block of 11th St. when she was awakened by the suspect touching her leg. The victim screamed and the suspect fled on foot. Also on July 5, 2004 at approximately 4:00 a.m. a female victim was sleeping in her residence in the 200 block of 11th St. when she was awakened by a suspect touching her leg. The suspect restrained the victim and sexually assaulted her before leaving the apartment on foot. Both incidents are believed to have been committed by the same suspect. The suspect is described as a white male adult with an olive complexion or a Hispanic male adult, 16 to 25 years old, approximately 5’10” to 6’1” tall, medium build, short black wavy hair, brown eyes, and possible pierced ears. A composite sketch is available at the Reno Police Department. The Reno Police Department is asking for the public’s assistance in identifying the suspect. Anyone having information relating to this crime or the suspect should contact the Reno Police Department at 325-8040 or Secret Witness at 322-4900.

This is interesting. Does anyone know how to get a picture of this suspect?

[SeriouslySearching]

I tried every way on their website to find it. That site is not user friendly! If it is there, I couldn't get to it. I want to see it, too!

However, the black wavy hair and pierced ears seem to point to another person entirely. I would think more Hispanic with the olive complexion.

[Leviosa]

Remember the UNR student who was successful at warding her attacker off? She would be in the best position to tell anyone what this person looks like. Moreover, correct me if I am wrong, but that is where the packet(s) of condoms were found and DNA evidence was collected from body oil transfer on the outside of the packet(s)?

Has anyone taken the time to check out this individual's friends list? Seriously, there must be four or five people on that site alone that make my hair stand on end.

However, and I alluded to this in my last paragraph or last post, several of 'the friend's' comments you can't click because they've set their profiles to 'private.'

Leviosa :blushing:

[Leviosa]

Oops! Sorry…just to clear this up from a different point of view: Males and their pubic regions are quite different in hygiene and customization than most females I've ever known. Straight to the point, I understand through academic study, that it is rare for men to shave the pubic region. From locker room experience—never.

Leviosa :crazy:

[SeriouslySearching]

Oops! Sorry…just to clear this up from a different point of view: Males and their pubic regions are quite different in hygiene and customization than most females I've ever known. Straight to the point, I understand through academic study, that it is rare for men to shave the pubic region. From locker room experience—never.

Leviosa :crazy: You are very mistaken from an academic point of view. :) Men today who care about their hygiene specifically will keep it shaved or very well trimmed. However, we really don't need to keep beating a dead...uhm...well...if you will go to this thread you can read the findings: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=58905&page=21 starts about #520.

And that is ALL I am gonna say about that again, I swear!!

[dimples37398]

I figured I would put my little 2 cents in here. From what I have been told or "yeah" heard......This is not an uncommon thing, for men to shave down there.

[dimples37398]

I guess it really does depend on the age of the person you ask too, My friends and I are still in our middle to late 20's so I think it is more common in our age range and younger compared, to people whom didn't grow up with my age group.

Also if you have children who are around their 20-30's then you will probably have heard of it as well.

And just for the record, it isn't something I talk to my Mom or Close family about either......I might joke or have a conversation with my friends mom, but hehehe I can't see my Mom talking about that subject seriously with me.

Kel

[SeriouslySearching]

:silenced: :silenced: :silenced: :silenced: :silenced: :silenced:

[Reannan]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:silenced: :silenced: :silenced: :silenced: :silenced: :silenced:

[SeriouslySearching]

:) OK Now where were we?!

[SeriouslySearching]

:mad: I wonder where that POS is watching the Superbowl tonite with his friends and family partying it up and acting as if he is the King of the world?! :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

[philamena]

SS,
I wondered the same thing. Was he somewhere watching the game, enjoying himself while planning his next attack?!?!?
Brianna'a poor family....they are going through hell.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think he is planning his next attack...but he is reliving the ones he has already done. POS.

[kgeaux]

You are very mistaken from an academic point of view. :) Men today who care about their hygiene specifically will keep it shaved or very well trimmed. However, we really don't need to keep beating a dead...uhm...well...if you will go to this thread you can read the findings: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=58905&page=21 starts about #520.

And that is ALL I am gonna say about that again, I swear!!

I'm in south Louisiana, which is generally considered to be at LEAST five years behind the rest of USA, and this is becoming quite common........in fact, lots of high school boys that I know shave their entire bodies, except for their heads.

[newshound81]

I'm sorry, but I thought the below comment from a KOLO TV report was the stupidest thing ever: http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15270231.html

A lack of promising leads in the Brianna Denison case is causing Reno Police to resort to some unusual methods.

Officers are patrolling several neighborhoods near the home where Brianna Denison was kidnapped and they're stopping anyone who resembles the suspect in her disappearance.

if (self['plpm'] && plpm['Mid-Story Ad']) document.write('');if (self['plpm'] && plpm['Mid-Story Ad']){ document.write(plpm['Mid-Story Ad']);} else { if(self['plurp'] && plurp['97']){} else {document.write(''); } }if (self['plpm'] && plpm['Mid-Story Ad']) document.write('');"I have mixed feelings about it," says Justin Boucher, a UNR junior. "Because stopping someone on appearance is profiling, that's the definition of profiling...so i don't know if they should be doing that or not."

I'd like Mr. Boucher to tell me what else the cops are supposed to be doing to find this guy?

[paddy01]

It would appear to me & others if you're not guilty of anything, and you have nothing to hide, "JUSTIN", what's the big deal! We have a missing girl here stupid! IMO, I think LE needs to take a look at Justin :rolleyes:

[dee10134]

It would appear to me & others if you're not guilty of anything, and you have nothing to hide, "JUSTIN", what's the big deal! We have a missing girl here stupid! IMO, I think LE needs to take a look at Justin :rolleyes:

Why? Because he is questioning the status quo? Give me a break.

I'm sure they already questioned him anyways...

JMHO

[Rick777]

The darn Presidential crap is overshadowing Brianna and all other missing cases! Drives me crazy!

[paddy01]

Why? Because he is questioning the status quo? Give me a break.

I'm sure they already questioned him anyways...

JMHO

It was just a little humor for cripes sake! It's obvious you missed
the :rolleyes:

[murdershewrote]

I'm waiting until mid month (say Feb. 18-22) to see if this perp strikes again. That seems to be part of his MO. The weather in Reno is suppose to get up into the 50's this week so that will melt the snow and maybe help in the searches.

[Rick777]

I'm waiting until mid month (say Feb. 18-22) to see if this perp strikes again. That seems to be part of his MO. The weather in Reno is suppose to get up into the 50's this week so that will melt the snow and maybe help in the searches.


I don't think there is any way this perp strikes again while he's under the spotlight. he was able to strike in the same area before because there was no media attention.....especially like there is now.

[ChevyTX]

It just seems like time is just flyin by to quickly and still no sign of Bri this really upsets me. Were is she? :furious:

[murdershewrote]

well, I sure hope that he doesn't. But these urges/patterns can be so strong that they don't care about the danger. And he might not necessarily strike in the same geographic area again...I think a pattern has developed in the time of the month when he strikes.

[paddy01]

I don't think there is any way this perp strikes again while he's under the spotlight. he was able to strike in the same area before because there was no media attention.....especially like there is now.

I tend to agree with you Rick, I have a feeling this creep has left the area by now, either that or he's laying low & watching what the media has to say?

[SeriouslySearching]

I guess if he does try to strike again, it will give LE a heads up that he is still in the area (which I believe he is). I don't see him trying it tho with the added patrols and the awareness around the campus plus the community.

[MeoW333]

Does anyone know if there is a pattern with the time of month he strikes and what phase the moon is in? I am wondering if he strikes on nights when it is darkest.
I also think this guy shaves his region for the reason of not leaving any stray hairs to identify him. He might have a record and something on file. It would explain him also using a condom, if he did that in other cases; correct me if i'm wrong.
I hope LE are seeing if any cases anywhere in the states fit a sexual predator with a shaved region. This guy might move around.

[murdershewrote]

Oct 22 (however, different views on whether same perp or not)
Nov. 13
Dec. 16
Jan 19 (break in)
Jan 20


so basically around mid to 3rd week of each month.

Oct 22 was a Mon
Nov. 13 was a Tues
Dec. 16 was a Sun
Jan 19 was a Sat
Jan 20 was a Sun

No Wed, Thurs or Fridays...maybe he's out of town on those days?

[StillHoping]

Does anyone know if there is a pattern with the time of month he strikes and what phase the moon is in? I am wondering if he strikes on nights when it is darkest.
I also think this guy shaves his region for the reason of not leaving any stray hairs to identify him. He might have a record and something on file. It would explain him also using a condom, if he did that in other cases; correct me if i'm wrong.
I hope LE are seeing if any cases anywhere in the states fit a sexual predator with a shaved region. This guy might move around.

The condoms have actually only been brought up for the November perp. There was a box of condoms found at the scene. It hasn't been reported yet that they were definitely used/or belonged to the perp in that assault. As for the other assaults, I haven't heard anything about a condom, but they do have the perp's DNA, which means he may not be using them. Although, they could get his DNA other ways also.

[MCDRAW]

I tend to agree with you Rick, I have a feeling this creep has left the area by now, either that or he's laying low & watching what the media has to say?


I think he will strike again. He will try not to but he will be compelled to. I don't think he will be able to control the urge. I think he likes the risk. That's just my opinion.

[SeriouslySearching]

Meo, if that were the case...he would shave his stomach, his arms, his legs, his face, his head, etc. We have been over this and there is no reason to believe he did it to prevent DNA from being found.

I would like to know what the stain was on the condom packages they found. It was a dark color. It would be interesting to know if it was blood or something else.

[paddy01]

I think he will strike again. He will try not to but he will be compelled to. I don't think he will be able to control the urge. I think he likes the risk. That's just my opinion.

I see what you mean about him not being able to control the urge, but really don't think it will be in same location, IMO. I keep searching for similar assaults in other areas.

[SeriouslySearching]

I wonder if this places his wife/significant other/girlfriend in danger? Will he take out his inability to satisfy this horrible urge on her?

[InterestedNHelping]

We should scour the news in Nevada, California, Oregon, arizona, to see if there are similiar accounts that appear in the next few weeks...maybe he is somewhere else...keep your eyes open!

[paddy01]

We should scour the news in Nevada, California, Oregon, arizona, to see if there are similiar accounts that appear in the next few weeks...maybe he is somewhere else...keep your eyes open!

That's what I've been doing lately, we're thinking on the same lines :)

[InterestedNHelping]

This info is a 'leap' to say the least, but bear with me...

In stockton, CA 2 men were arrested for raping prostitutes, and kidnapping them. Apparently not just prostitutes, but maybe others?

the suspect, Amritpal Grewal, (after an extensive search) has an airplane, (small aircraft) and was the manager at a small private airport. (IF the name match is correct, which it appears to be, and if this is the same person)
Look at his face next to the composite of the guy in the rape prior to Brianna going missing...they are strikingly similar to me...what do you think?
http://cbs13.com/local/Stockton.Rape.Arrests.2.606211.html

What if this guy flys to Reno all the time? Could it be a match, or could I have the wrong Amrit Grewal? If you google the name you get the airport and plane info, and it is in Lodi, very close to Stockton, and he looks like the composite sketch to boot!!!

[SeriouslySearching]

It is interesting, but I don't see the resemblance really. Looking at people flying in and out of Reno is a good avenue to explore tho. I am sure the airports are busy with people who jaunt there on business and pleasure.

[InterestedNHelping]

Would be interesting to see if they can access his flight plans for the last month...

[Rick777]

I find it hard to believe that this guy is just holed up somewhere close to this neighborhood. SOMEBODY would know he hasn't been around lately, or there seems to be an oddity to his everyday life. With a 5 hour head start, and Tahoe, Vegas, San Francisco in the general fleeing area....he could have gone anywhere populated.

[SeriouslySearching]

Personally, since I don't think this guy in the sketch is him and he probably has seen it so he feels they are looking for someone else altogether...I think he is acting quite normally and doing his every day routines. He probably feels like he has no reason to worry now with the sketch out there. Hopefully, this will mean he will mess up. Get too comfortable and get sloppy in some way.

[Leviosa]

Fellow Sleuth's:

Rick777 I am of the mindset similar to what you posted viz-a-vie time and place.

One of my thoughts has been: Where is the best place to hide if only for a month? Jail. This perp may vey well be in jail on a warrant he left for a time like this one.

Another issue that's bothering me, seriously bothering me is how quickly RPD and other LE are dismissing this or that; moreover, 'clearing' this person and that one. As far as anyone knows Jessica and K.T. could be up to something AND I mean no disrespect to either of them.

It just seems as though far too much has gotten either past LE or there is something in plain site they're missing. Straight up: Brianna had a boyfriend in high school (in Reno!) that she'd broken up with. Furthermore, this is a different person than the boyfriend she texted at 4:23AM, who lives in Oregon, who apparently she was breaking up with. Seems to me that some kind of trianglation between Reno, Oregon, and Santa Barbara should be conducted, which to my knowledge hasn't been done.

I don't know who mentioned this, however it was in the post about times of crimes: I could be wrong but it seemed like Wed, Th, Fri were the perps most opportune times? I can't get it off my mind that this person lives in Reno, and works either in Las Vegas or someplace a short distance out of town.

S.S., I will look up the condom wrapper thing again, inasmuch as I'm confused...again. Seems to me that the DNA retrieved from the wrapper was the same 'skin oils' that were found at Brianna's crime scene. Like I said, I don't know for sure, so I'll look it up. CHEERS EVERYONE!

Leviosa :rolleyes:

Oops! For some reason I'm feeling that the longer time passes the better it is for Brianna to be alive! Prayers.

[guestwriter]

What if the perp went to school on wed, thurs and fri and had no classes on sat, sun mon and tues..or what if he worked a strange shift 3 days a week 12 hours a day and off the other days. Some govt agencies you work only 36 hours a week...what if he worked maintenance on campus?

[guestwriter]

WHat if the perp had Brianna as a hostage keeping her in a trailer or in a park somewhere and wouldn't have the need to attack again..I know that sounds gruesome, but she would be alive...

[guestwriter]

Honestly...I don't see much of a resemblence...BUT...

Do you remember when that Brian Ladd guy did his drawing?? He said the guy that took Brianna had a funky eye!!!!! weird.

Brian also said the suspect lived near the airport run way 25 and the #G9 was significant....

[kgeaux]

It would appear to me & others if you're not guilty of anything, and you have nothing to hide, "JUSTIN", what's the big deal! We have a missing girl here stupid! IMO, I think LE needs to take a look at Justin :rolleyes:


It is, and I'm sad to say this, an issue which is larger than a missing girl. To stop and question people because they fit some sort of profile is against the civil rights due to Americans; Justin has mixed feelings IMO because he understands the immediate need to find the perpertrator and the larger issue of the loss of civil rights. He's not stupid at all, in fact I think Justin is probably quite an intelligent young man.

Police technically need more than "you fit the profile" to stop and question people. LE should (still speaking technically!) notice that the person appears to fit the description, run a background check, see what vehicle they drive, does that fit? Do a little investigation into what that person was doing on the night Brianna went missing, THEN if the person hasn't been ruled out, drag them in for questioning. What they are doing here is quicker........and EASIER. But that doesn't make it correct.

[10EC_Dad]

This info is a 'leap' to say the least, but bear with me...

In stockton, CA 2 men were arrested for raping prostitutes, and kidnapping them. Apparently not just prostitutes, but maybe others?

the suspect, Amritpal Grewal, (after an extensive search) has an airplane, (small aircraft) and was the manager at a small private airport. (IF the name match is correct, which it appears to be, and if this is the same person)
Look at his face next to the composite of the guy in the rape prior to Brianna going missing...they are strikingly similar to me...what do you think?
http://cbs13.com/local/Stockton.Rape.Arrests.2.606211.html

What if this guy flys to Reno all the time? Could it be a match, or could I have the wrong Amrit Grewal? If you google the name you get the airport and plane info, and it is in Lodi, very close to Stockton, and he looks like the composite sketch to boot!!!

I appreciate your efforts and creativity on this.

However, the theory that someone is coming to Reno from another state, while reasonable on its own, does not mesh with the truck, paper, and baby shoe. Possible but not probable. Great work though.

[SeriouslySearching]

I didn't realize until last night they were also asking these men stopped on the street to go ahead and voluntarily give fingerprints plus DNA. While the innocent men shouldn't have a problem with it still the question to a lot of them is: Where does my DNA go from there? If it doesn't match...do you keep or destroy it? They keep it, of course.

[Rick777]

I didn't realize until last night they were also asking these men stopped on the street to go ahead and voluntarily give fingerprints plus DNA. While the innocent men shouldn't have a problem with it still the question to a lot of them is: Where does my DNA go from there? If it doesn't match...do you keep or destroy it? They keep it, of course.


If thats what the LE is reduced to in this case, then it's total desperation.

[dee10134]

I didn't realize until last night they were also asking these men stopped on the street to go ahead and voluntarily give fingerprints plus DNA. While the innocent men shouldn't have a problem with it still the question to a lot of them is: Where does my DNA go from there? If it doesn't match...do you keep or destroy it? They keep it, of course.

That is exactly why I would NEVER submit to a DNA test unless they had a warrant and I'm innocent as innocent can be.

[SeriouslySearching]

If thats what the LE is reduced to in this case, then it's total desperation.I would have to agree with you. However, I did suggest they ask the college population to submit to DNA tests voluntarily. Maybe Mark F. told them I wanted it done, you think? LOL

[cbcrime]

I think that there is some confusion as to what is profiling. Stopping a person because they match a description of a suspect is not profiling. The pc (probable cause) is the fact that they match a description.

Profiling is when a specific race is targeted because of their race and there is not a valid reason. An example of this would be an upscale neighborhood - police stopping all blacks simply because they are black in an upscale neighborhood.

That is one of the reasons that a lot of depts keep stats on the stops that they make and the reasons. They want to make sure that there is not profiling being done and they can defend themselves against profiling accusations.

[Rick777]

I would have to agree with you. However, I did suggest they ask the college population to submit to DNA tests voluntarily. Maybe Mark F. told them I wanted it done, you think? LOL

You snap your fingers, and Fuhrman jumps...we all know that. hahahaha

[SeriouslySearching]

:laugh: :laugh: You snap your fingers, and Fuhrman jumps...we all know that. hahahaha If that were the case, he would have already caught this guy. ;)

[SuziQ]

Washoe County authorities are appealing to the private sector for $150,000 to allow a backlog of roughly 3,000 DNA samples from convicted offenders to be processed and compared with the DNA of the unknown suspect who abducted Brianna Denison and, weeks earlier, assaulted at least two other college students.
Sheriff Mike Haley said at a Monday news conference that a new law that took effect in October requires DNA be taken and processed from all convicted felons and those convicted of gross misdemeanor sex crimes. But the state provided no money for the extra work, he said. (more at link)
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/NEWS01/802050351/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

[SuziQ]

IMO, if LE had any good leads on who this guy is, they wouldn't be out there profiling, or whatever you want to call it.

[SeriouslySearching]

So the perp's DNA could already BE there and just not processed yet. That is very disturbing!

[Rick777]

It's been so many days now. It's a great thing that no body has been found. That gives some hope. No bear has been found. Again....hope.

[murdershewrote]

since this is a kidnapping, wasn't the FBI brought in? They should be able to process the DNA without having to ask for local monies...that is ridiculous.

[Leviosa]

It's been so many days now. It's a great thing that no body has been found. That gives some hope. No bear has been found. Again....hope.

Again I agree totally! Time, unlike other cases, appears to be an asset in Brianna's case, please don't ask me why! :crazy:

I cannot believe what the city of Reno is up too--mind you again, if that is anything? Asking the public to come forward for money to test. LE has stated that they do have the perps DNA; however, they have nothing with which to compare.

Lastly, yesterday's headline in my Google reader was: FBI want to establish National 'Characteristic' database....Ready: measurements, foot sizes, height, weight, 'the lot' including DNA. I have NOTHING whatsoever to hide, yet, it will take a warrant from the Supreme Court served on me in Australia after LE has talked with 5 or so lawyers to serve me.

Hey SuziQ, good work! Same to the rest of the Gang!

PS Sorry gang....Mark F. just comes off as being very sleazy to me...I don't know if I should admire it or dislike him for it. (lol)

[Leviosa]

since this is a kidnapping, wasn't the FBI brought in? They should be able to process the DNA without having to ask for local monies...that is ridiculous.

As most others will attest to, the LE in this case has been borderling abhorrent! Sure the FBI got involved--not during the critical phase mind you--several days afterward.

Makes me want to puke! But seriously, do you think that the Fed wants to pay for the States f/up? I truly believe that that kind of politics is involved with this case! :rolleyes:

[murdershewrote]

I agree...since this is being categorized as a kidnapping, her parents need to be calling and hounding the nearest FBI office every day, forget about the local LE. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Her parents need to start screaming!

[10EC_Dad]

I agree...since this is being categorized as a kidnapping, her parents need to be calling and hounding the nearest FBI office every day, forget about the local LE. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Her parents need to start screaming!

It seems that the family has tried to keep Brianna in the media.

[dontpanic38]

It is strange to me that people will criticize the handling of any case they are not personally involved in. I disagree with a lot of what has been said regarding how Law Enforcement is handling this case. I firmly believe that the statements they made to the press at the start of this case stating that they have no reason to link the previous rapes. Why would they release that information to the public without something concrete to back it up?

Also the idea that they brought the FBI in too late is laughable. For the FBI there are many different parameters that go into them even consider getting involved in a case.
The perfect example of the second guessing and casting judgment on LE is in the first thread about this case. There was a lot of speculating that the roommates had something to do with her disappearance or that it was an overdose etc....

I am not saying that Law enforcement is always right, but I have personally seen good people trashed in the media and had their careers and reputations put into question by people who only have half of the story.
I personally think that investigators eat a lot of crap, from people who don't know any better, but I can promise you that every single detective involved in this case are at it night and day and most likely suffering from the stress of not finding her yet...

I don't want to get into a big huge argument here and I think that tossing around ideas is a great thing, but I just don't think that any of us has the experience or the right to second guess the professionals who are looking at the case with a lot more information and tools than we have.


One more thing and I will step off my soap box, I am a 30 year old male, and I will tell everyone now that the shaving thing is not uncommon at all and I think the only reason that LE is saying anything about it is that they are hoping that the fact that the baby shoe means that there is someone close to him who would put two and two together. I know that the shaving has nothing to do with anything other than most of us who do shave or trim do it because it looks better and at least feels cleaner....

[murdershewrote]

yes, I know...and with the Super Bowl, Super Tuesday, the Holloway case, and all, I'm sure it's not easy to get time on these shows. And I didn't mean to infer that they weren't doing anything, but, the cops have DNA for pete sake's. It's very frustrating to think that his DNA hasn't been run thru every single database that is available thru the Federal government. Having DNA is a gift.

[MCDRAW]

I know this case is frustrating but the police can only do so much. The DNA will come in handy, once they have a suspect. Until someone puts two and two together and turns him in, there's not much that can be done but search. Hopefully they will find her soon. And him.

[murdershewrote]

my guess is that LE is putting most of their efforts into finding him in hopes that once they get him, he will tell where she is. There is so much wilderness in that area, she could have been put anywhere, and with it being winter, it makes it even harder. I don't think she will be found near town anywhere.

[10EC_Dad]

It is strange to me that people will criticize the handling of any case they are not personally involved in. I disagree with a lot of what has been said regarding how Law Enforcement is handling this case. I firmly believe that the statements they made to the press at the start of this case stating that they have no reason to link the previous rapes. Why would they release that information to the public without something concrete to back it up?

Also the idea that they brought the FBI in too late is laughable. For the FBI there are many different parameters that go into them even consider getting involved in a case.
The perfect example of the second guessing and casting judgment on LE is in the first thread about this case. There was a lot of speculating that the roommates had something to do with her disappearance or that it was an overdose etc....

I am not saying that Law enforcement is always right, but I have personally seen good people trashed in the media and had their careers and reputations put into question by people who only have half of the story.
I personally think that investigators eat a lot of crap, from people who don't know any better, but I can promise you that every single detective involved in this case are at it night and day and most likely suffering from the stress of not finding her yet...

I don't want to get into a big huge argument here and I think that tossing around ideas is a great thing, but I just don't think that any of us has the experience or the right to second guess the professionals who are looking at the case with a lot more information and tools than we have.


One more thing and I will step off my soap box, I am a 30 year old male, and I will tell everyone now that the shaving thing is not uncommon at all and I think the only reason that LE is saying anything about it is that they are hoping that the fact that the baby shoe means that there is someone close to him who would put two and two together. I know that the shaving has nothing to do with anything other than most of us who do shave or trim do it because it looks better and at least feels cleaner....

I agree about the LE bashing. Until you walk a milr in their shoes . . .

[BMG]

Casual lurker here.

Just wanted to say, you guys might be interested in this -

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired

Of course, even if there's a chance it was the same guy, I'm not sure it helps the investigation much.

I just knew about this case since since it happened where I live. Its a safe area where you don't have to worry about anyone breaking in to your apartment, at least, usually. The door to my place isn't always locked, but then I'm not female and am not worried about stuff like this.

[Tranaice]

Casual lurker here.

Just wanted to say, you guys might be interested in this -

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired

Of course, even if there's a chance it was the same guy, I'm not sure it helps the investigation much.

I just knew about this case since since it happened where I live. Its a safe area where you don't have to worry about anyone breaking in to your apartment, at least, usually. The door to my place isn't always locked, but then I'm not female and am not worried about stuff like this.

Wow, the description of the rapist sure sounds a lot like this guy....

[murdershewrote]

hummm....around mid month, on a Tuesday around 5 am, victim is college student....does fit MO.

[Utopia]

Welcome casual lurker BMG! Now that you are out of lurker mode - join us!

Casual lurker here.

Just wanted to say, you guys might be interested in this -

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired

Of course, even if there's a chance it was the same guy, I'm not sure it helps the investigation much.

I just knew about this case since since it happened where I live. Its a safe area where you don't have to worry about anyone breaking in to your apartment, at least, usually. The door to my place isn't always locked, but then I'm not female and am not worried about stuff like this.

[SeriouslySearching]

Dontpanic~ You won't get much argument from me on what you wrote. I did say much.

I think unless they have more to link the sketch to the other assaults besides that it happened near the area...it will hurt the case.

LE did not pull out all the stops on the first two rapes or they would have had a more detailed description and would have already linked them before Brianna went missing. It was only after Brianna went missing did they reinterview the second victim and establish a link thru DNA. I don't see how you can honestly feel this is acceptable on the part of LE. They failed the first two women by not following through on their cases and could possibly have put this perp away before he escalated.

I don't doubt that the detectives are working this case 24/7 and will continue to do so until they find this man and Brianna. I know there are dedicated men and women on the force who will work diligently. However, they are limited in resources and face a daunting task. I realize the role of the FBI on these cases and why it takes time to mobilize them.

Bravo that you came out about the personal item you mentioned. I wish more people would speak out so that LE knows because I honestly don't think they do. They DO feel it is unusual and keep hanging their hat on it...so to speak.

[SeriouslySearching]

Casual lurker here.

Just wanted to say, you guys might be interested in this -

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired

Of course, even if there's a chance it was the same guy, I'm not sure it helps the investigation much.

I just knew about this case since since it happened where I live. Its a safe area where you don't have to worry about anyone breaking in to your apartment, at least, usually. The door to my place isn't always locked, but then I'm not female and am not worried about stuff like this.Welcome to Websleuths, BMG! It is an excellent first post! There are similarities which should be taken into consideration. The easiest way for LE to rule it in or out is thru comparing DNA in the cases. :)

[JDB]

Lets see Az and Reno. I really doubt it that it is the same guy. That is a long haul driving.
Adding The sketch is not even close

[SeriouslySearching]

The sketch in the Reno case has in no way been proven to be connected to the disappearance of Brianna. This does prove my point that people are going to go by the sketch and disregard a man that could very well be the perp because of it.

This sketch does show a square jaw and the facial hair on the chin tho. It matches closer than the other sketch to the actual description given by the second victim, imo.

The attack in AZ happened near Sept. 12, 2007. This person could have left town because they had his face and moved to the Reno area to avoid capture.

[gardenmom]

Again I agree totally! Time, unlike other cases, appears to be an asset in Brianna's case, please don't ask me why! :crazy:

I cannot believe what the city of Reno is up too--mind you again, if that is anything? Asking the public to come forward for money to test. LE has stated that they do have the perps DNA; however, they have nothing with which to compare.

Lastly, yesterday's headline in my Google reader was: FBI want to establish National 'Characteristic' database....Ready: measurements, foot sizes, height, weight, 'the lot' including DNA. I have NOTHING whatsoever to hide, yet, it will take a warrant from the Supreme Court served on me in Australia after LE has talked with 5 or so lawyers to serve me.

Hey SuziQ, good work! Same to the rest of the Gang!


PS Sorry gang....Mark F. just comes off as being very sleazy to me...I don't know if I should admire it or dislike him for it. (lol)

Give me a freakin' break! All the money that Reno pulls in from gambling and they cannot come up with $150,000? They should be ashamed!

[KR2tonenow]

Casual lurker here.

Just wanted to say, you guys might be interested in this -

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired

Of course, even if there's a chance it was the same guy, I'm not sure it helps the investigation much.

I just knew about this case since since it happened where I live. Its a safe area where you don't have to worry about anyone breaking in to your apartment, at least, usually. The door to my place isn't always locked, but then I'm not female and am not worried about stuff like this.

The likelihood of this perp being in Arizona is probable. They would have found him by now.

Can we fax this to RPD?

[BMG]

The likelihood of this perp being in Arizona is probable. They would have found him by now.

I don't know if they would have found him (edit - the perp in the AZ case I should clarify, I may have misread your comment). The description given in this case was very weak. In fact - the composite in the link I posted - I could be wrong but I remember seeing a different less defined sketch in the days immediately after the rape. And there was never reason to consider the rapist a serial rapist, and there was no missing person, so its not like it was on the news everyday.

The perp who has or had Brianna, who knows. He could be anywhere, and I'm sure LE in Reno has info that the public doesn't have, and I'm sure the public doesn't have it for a reason.

[adnoid]

Brian also said the suspect lived near the airport run way 25 and the #G9 was significant....

There are very few houses at the approach end of 25:

Runway 25 Approach End (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=krno&ie=UTF8&ll=39.494876,-119.755172&spn=0.003717,0.007199&t=h&z=17&iwloc=addr&om=0)

But there are quite a few at the departure end of 25, which is the approach end of 7:

Runway 7 Approach End/Runway 25 Departure End (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=krno&ie=UTF8&ll=39.494818,-119.780921&spn=0.003717,0.007199&t=h&z=17&iwloc=addr&om=0)

[adnoid]

It is, and I'm sad to say this, an issue which is larger than a missing girl. To stop and question people because they fit some sort of profile is against the civil rights due to Americans; Justin has mixed feelings IMO because he understands the immediate need to find the perpertrator and the larger issue of the loss of civil rights. He's not stupid at all, in fact I think Justin is probably quite an intelligent young man.

Police technically need more than "you fit the profile" to stop and question people. LE should (still speaking technically!) notice that the person appears to fit the description, run a background check, see what vehicle they drive, does that fit? Do a little investigation into what that person was doing on the night Brianna went missing, THEN if the person hasn't been ruled out, drag them in for questioning. What they are doing here is quicker........and EASIER. But that doesn't make it correct.

You know, I see the posters all over town and it breaks my heart.

I have a car that's similar to the one in the surv