View Full Version : Can someone clarify this for me
cenasangel
02-02-2008, 11:13 PM
I was ready the Sherry doe thread and i got directed to a website from another website that had a few pics of a lady that calls herself Rosie Tate Polanski. She claims she is Sharon Tates baby and that the Manson girls cut her out before they killed shoron or something and took her away. Never anywhere have i ever seen anything reporting what happened to Sharon Tates baby, alive dead or otherwise and no autopsy reports about it on any website. I'm wondering how much credence can be given to this lady and if it is even possible she was taken and raised by a family member ??
Also i note that several children were born within the family. Whatever became of these children and where are they now ???
Sharon Tate's unborn baby was murdered too and is buried with her. He was named Paul Richard. Whoever that woman is, she's a sicko and a fraud. Sharon and Roman Polanski did not have other children. Paul Richard was her first baby.
Here's a link to a photo of Sharon's grave.
http://www.gravehunter.net/Sharon_Tate.jpg
cenasangel
02-03-2008, 05:07 AM
How come there were no autopsy reports regarding him?? and how come in her autopy report it shows a large abdominal cut almost from one side to the other in what looked to be a crude attempt at a ceserean ??
Wasn't the baby a "premie"? (Less than 36 weeks gestation? Or am I mis-remembering?) And, at that time, very few premies survived, and those that did were born in the hospital and got IMMEDIATE medical care? :confused: Maybe the details about the baby weren't released to the public, out of consideration to the family? Or they didn't give details about the baby at that time because the main crime was the murder of the woman. Was it even a crime to murder an unborn baby at that time? :confused:
cenasangel
02-03-2008, 05:42 AM
Wasn't the baby a "premie"? (Less than 36 weeks gestation? Or am I mis-remembering?) And, at that time, very few premies survived, and those that did were born in the hospital and got IMMEDIATE medical care? :confused: Maybe the details about the baby weren't released to the public, out of consideration to the family? Or they didn't give details about the baby at that time because the main crime was the murder of the woman. Was it even a crime to murder an unborn baby at that time? :confused:
I recall she was 8 and a half months pregnant which roughly equivilates to 35/36 weeks. At that stage he/she would have had no problems surviving and if he/she did, i belive a manson associaite was a doctor anyway. If you look at roise tate polanski's photo she looks like a dead ringer for Sharon.
Sharon was 8.5 months pregnant. Do you HONESTLY believe this person's story? I saw the photos. Aside from the blonde hair, I don't see a resemblence at all.
I read somewhere, trial information, medical evidence, that the unborn baby was male. *NOT* female. So, yeah, the chick is lying from what I recall. :furious:
cenasangel
02-03-2008, 05:54 AM
It could be possible........ ive never seen any infomation regarding the baby and she had a cut from side to side. There were apparently plenty of children around at the time. The manson women apparently were breeding like rabbits. Theres no infomation on what happened to them.
I read somewhere, trial information, medical evidence, that the unborn baby was male. *NOT* female. So, yeah, the chick is lying from what I recall. :furious:
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You are correct.
Perhaps the OP should read "Helter Skelter", then maybe they'd understand more what happened during the crime. Susan Atkins pretty much blabbed it to anyone who would listen, so there's no doubt there about what happened. Sharon and her baby BOTH died and Susan Atkins even TOLD Sharon during the crime that she was going to kill her AND her baby. May those poor people rest in peace. Threads like this, giving attention to freaks like this only do a disservice to the victims of horrendous crimes like this one.
They wouldn't have noised the medical/autopsy information about the baby around in the media as much as they might today. They respected a grieving family's privacy back then. But some places, while covering the murder, did give enough information to say it was a boy, and I remember thinking "How sad, that they were right when they picked out a name for their baby, and they never got to say it and see the baby's eyes focus on them." :(
kline
02-03-2008, 05:59 AM
Sharon Tates unborn baby died along with her.
The fetus was not removed by the killers (though this myth has been around since 1969)
This woman claiming to be the baby is menatally ill.
There are a lot of weirdos and nastiness surrounding this case alot of freaks have tried to jocky for position with the Tate family to this day.Check out some of the websites devoted to this case and the discussion forums youll see what I mean.
Very unsavory.
Jeana (DP)
02-03-2008, 12:16 PM
Sharon was absolutely beautiful. She was about a month younger than my mom, which completely freaks me out!!
Jeana (DP)
02-03-2008, 12:17 PM
Birth: 1969
Los Angeles
Los Angeles County
California, USA
Death: Aug. 9, 1969
Los Angeles
Los Angeles County
California, USA
Unborn son of director Roman Polanski and actress Sharon Tate. He died when his mother, actress Sharon Tate, who was pregnant with him, was murdered by members of the Manson family on August 9, 1969.
Jeana (DP)
02-03-2008, 12:19 PM
How come there were no autopsy reports regarding him?? and how come in her autopy report it shows a large abdominal cut almost from one side to the other in what looked to be a crude attempt at a ceserean ??
Here's a link to the front diagram of her autopsy report. There was no cut on her abdomin.
http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/t/tate/Sharon%20autopsy%20report.JPG
AmandaBrown23
02-03-2008, 01:45 PM
So did she just give birth naturally and the baby was killed?? Ithought that they cut her open, weird
meggilyweggily
02-03-2008, 02:09 PM
I believe she died with the baby inside her. When that happens, the baby dies too.
paddy01
02-03-2008, 02:21 PM
http://www.findagrave.com you can look up by names or cemetery Sharon & her son Paul Richard Polanski are buried in the same Catholic cemetery as my mother & sister. By baby's name it states unborn son of Sharon & Roman Polanski. Holy Cross Cemetery is located in Culver City, CA.
HesterMofet
02-03-2008, 02:37 PM
I believe she died with the baby inside her. When that happens, the baby dies too.
This is exactly what happened. I feel so bad for this family that there are still sickos out there playing games with them. Nearly 40 years and people people cannot let them rest in peace. Helter Skelter was the first true crime book I ever read and the case still fascinates me. I don't know if we know the "whole truth" but one truth we do know is that poor baby died with his mother that night.
Case Closed.
(Sorry if this seems harsh. I don't post a lot, I mostly read, but when I heard this it made me angry because the whole family has been through so much.)
meggilyweggily
02-03-2008, 02:43 PM
Old myths die hard.
cenasangel
02-03-2008, 04:18 PM
You are correct.
Perhaps the OP should read "Helter Skelter", then maybe they'd understand more what happened during the crime. Susan Atkins pretty much blabbed it to anyone who would listen, so there's no doubt there about what happened. Sharon and her baby BOTH died and Susan Atkins even TOLD Sharon during the crime that she was going to kill her AND her baby. May those poor people rest in peace. Threads like this, giving attention to freaks like this only do a disservice to the victims of horrendous crimes like this one.
If your not suppose to ask questions on a certain case to clarify the issue then what is the point in even having a forum ??? I'm not from your fair country so i might not be privy to all the infomation you have about the case. Which is what i thought the whole intention of this forum was ???
dingo
02-03-2008, 07:45 PM
very sad rumours for the families involved...a bit like the woman here who claimed to be Azaria Chamberland..
(the dingo baby)
cenasangel
02-04-2008, 12:08 AM
very sad rumours for the families involved...a bit like the woman here who claimed to be Azaria Chamberland..
(the dingo baby)
Someone came on here and claimed to be Azaria Chamberlin ???
Maybe if someone thinks the Manson girls are getting to much exposure for what they did, prahaps contacting the manager of the rockband Kasabian and admonish them for bad taste ???
No, some chick came forwards a year or two back (ETA: not at Websleuths, it was in the world news) and claimed to be Azaria. They had to investigate, and the finding was she isn't. I don't recall if they did DNA tests or not though. I seem to recall that she was pretty good at lying, and I felt that it was especially nasty of her to tug at Azaria's parents' hearts like that. :mad:
cenasangel
02-04-2008, 12:37 AM
No, some chick came forwards a year or two back (ETA: not at Websleuths, it was in the world news) and claimed to be Azaria. They had to investigate, and the finding was she isn't. I don't recall if they did DNA tests or not though. I seem to recall that she was pretty good at lying, and I felt that it was especially nasty of her to tug at Azaria's parents' hearts like that. :mad:
I think Lindy and pastor chamberlin have accepted she passed on.
dingo
02-04-2008, 01:03 AM
Someone came on here and claimed to be Azaria Chamberlin ???
Maybe if someone thinks the Manson girls are getting to much exposure for what they did, prahaps contacting the manager of the rockband Kasabian and admonish them for bad taste ???
No..I never said that.
cenasangel
02-04-2008, 03:03 AM
Regardless the Chamberlins would never have brought it.
dingo
02-04-2008, 07:35 PM
A dna test would have put the matter to rest.
Jeana (DP)
02-05-2008, 10:09 AM
If your not suppose to ask questions on a certain case to clarify the issue then what is the point in even having a forum ??? I'm not from your fair country so i might not be privy to all the infomation you have about the case. Which is what i thought the whole intention of this forum was ???
Absolutely!! That's exactly why we're here!! Question anything you want!
NewMom2003
02-18-2008, 12:12 PM
I can't believe I'm bumping this thread, but I had to comment on this.
There is a book called Coroner written by Dr. Thomas Noguchi who performed the autopsy on Sharon Tate.
The baby was a fully formed male and was removed by Dr. Noguchi via a post-mortem c-section. :( The baby did not die from any of the stab wounds that killed his mother. He died from lack of oxygen due to his mother's death. The two were buried together, with Sharon holding her beloved baby boy, Paul Richard Polanski, in her arms. :(
Anyone purporting to be Sharon Tate's child is an absolute lunatic. There are sick people in this world.
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