View Full Version : Deadly encounters with Gary Hilton-AJC Special Report
SuziQ
02-09-2008, 03:02 PM
A special article from the AJC. A picture of "Dandy" is included:
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/stories/2008/02/09/hiltontrail_0210.html
Marchmallow
02-09-2008, 04:02 PM
It sounds like Rossana Miliani was likely one of his victims. On another forum I read that many items of clothing and a green car rear seat cover were found in Dawson Forest near Hilton's campsite by the river. I hope that forensic evidence from the sleeping bags, packs, and other items that Hilton threw into the dumpsters right before he was arrested will tie him to more of his victims.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ddjl6
Hiker
02-09-2008, 06:09 PM
Hilton has been all over the place and knew the forest service roads as well or better than most hikers who use them all the time. It isn't uncommon to see people living out of cars, truck campers or vans in the national forest along the intertwined dirt / gravel roads.
My husband and I have been known to car camp in an area for up to two weeks while day-hiking nearby portions of the Appalachian Trail or hiking out to waterfalls (my husband's passion). Hunters use these roads and often camp from vehicles. Fly fishermen do the same. And then there are the homeless. There are a surprising number of people who live off the grid in the woods.
I'm still somewhat stunned that I've been everywhere in GA and NC that LE says Hilton has been. There but for the grace of God went my husband and I. We are somewhat similar to John & Irene Bryant.
panglossian
02-09-2008, 08:35 PM
Thank you for this thread SuzieQ. Seeing Dandy's photo for the first time is weird. Poor dog.
Thanks for that link Marchmallow.
SuziQ
02-09-2008, 09:17 PM
Thank you for this thread SuzieQ. Seeing Dandy's photo for the first time is weird. Poor dog.
Thanks for that link Marchmallow.
He's a cutie. I hope he finds a good home.
Hiker
02-09-2008, 09:31 PM
(Third hand info so may not be true) I've been told that Dandy has been adopted by one of the people involved in the search and rescue operation for Meredith Emerson. Since he had been an outdoor dog and was accustomed to hiking, he would likely be happiest with someone who will take him hiking and all the S & R members are hikers and/or climbers.
concernedperson
02-09-2008, 10:48 PM
(Third hand info so may not be true) I've been told that Dandy has been adopted by one of the people involved in the search and rescue operation for Meredith Emerson. Since he had been an outdoor dog and was accustomed to hiking, he would likely be happiest with someone who will take him hiking and all the S & R members are hikers and/or climbers.
That is good to know even if it is third hand.
The article was good about Hilton's timeline and the interviews. I am so glad he is off the streets, the mountains, the swamps, and everything in between.
Truly
02-10-2008, 10:23 PM
Thanks, SuziQ! One part of the report I found curious is that Tabor wrote Hilton a check for $2500, attached a note calling it extortion, and then Hilton tore up the check. Why would he tear up the check? Unless it really was extortion or blackmail or something of that nature, and Hilton was trying to get a whole lot more money from him? I just don't get it, if Hilton was willing to murder random people for a couple of hundred dollars, it seems that he would have cashed the check. :waitasec:
panglossian
02-10-2008, 10:33 PM
That puzzled me, too. There's got to be more to that story, like if Tabor said the check would be for more and Hilton was surprised at the smaller amount it ended up being.
Native New Yorker
02-11-2008, 12:28 AM
You both make good points, Pan and Truly...we only have Tabor's word about the check...the odd thing about Tabor, is that he seems to have been the only person who was willing to deal with GMH for an extended period of time...I know that I never could have done so, from all I have heard of Hilton's weirdness/creepiness. More to this story than meets the eye, I feel.
Tallytowngirl
02-11-2008, 11:46 AM
I just don't get it, if Hilton was willing to murder random people for a couple of hundred dollars, it seems that he would have cashed the check.
Did Hilton have a bank account? How did Tabor usually pay him? If he usually was paid cash under the table, and he didn't have a bank account, maybe he was expecting cash instead of a check?
It has always seemed odd to me that he never took that much money from the bank accounts he accessed. Even though he demanded large sums from Tabor....
(I know the Tabors have been discussed elsewhere at length and I don't want to get off track... but is there any chance that Tabor is making his own role out to be a bit more important than it really was? Like he didn't actually give Hilton a check that Hilton tore up or the like? The whole Hilton/Tabor relationship is really whonky, if you ask me)
Native New Yorker
02-11-2008, 12:09 PM
Tallytown, we may never know! Because poor Emerson's case will not go to trial ( a good thing, I feel), then all the info with Tabor, etc. stays hidden.
A big sigh of relief from Tabor, I am sure he is happy that this will all go away.
Unless....an intrepid reporter goes digging....so many, many unanswered questions in this case!
Perhaps we will get some more information when he is charged with other crimes, which cannot come soon enough for me!
Truly
02-11-2008, 12:40 PM
Did Hilton have a bank account? How did Tabor usually pay him? If he usually was paid cash under the table, and he didn't have a bank account, maybe he was expecting cash instead of a check?
It has always seemed odd to me that he never took that much money from the bank accounts he accessed. Even though he demanded large sums from Tabor....
(I know the Tabors have been discussed elsewhere at length and I don't want to get off track... but is there any chance that Tabor is making his own role out to be a bit more important than it really was? Like he didn't actually give Hilton a check that Hilton tore up or the like? The whole Hilton/Tabor relationship is really whonky, if you ask me)
Hilton must have had a way to cash checks from Tabor, because Tabor stated that when Hilton called him from the Huddle House (with Meredith still in his van, presumably:eek: ), that Tabor tried to lure him to his office with the promise of an $800 check left under the sundial on the deck.
Most atm cards have a maximum daily limit ($300?), so I think he took as much as he could before he figured he'd get caught.
It seems like $2500 is a substantial chunk of change for an old homeless dude to just throw away. Hmmm...
panglossian
02-11-2008, 01:26 PM
Tabor is involved in a lawsuit about some work his company did. That would be where his payment methods are revealed, unless it is settled out of court.
Dandy is nearly to the end of a Golden Retriever's life span (I have a Golden myself). I am glad to hear he wasn't euthanized because of Hilton's activities. I hope he has a peaceful and happy life.
MeoW333
02-11-2008, 02:55 PM
I wonder if someone adopts Dandy and then brings Dandy to retrace some of Hilton's frequent routes where he hiked. Would Dandy be able to lead them to different spots out of routine if he was off the leash? This could potentially help LE in having an idea of exactly where Hilton frequented that isn't known and if he possibly used a cabin at any point in different locations.
As for Hilton tearing up the check, it seems if he was that desperate for money he would have kept it and took it to a check cashing place. Hilton seems to only demand money enough to survive on. Maybe his pride was hurt with Tabor's check so he ripped it up, i don't know. Maybe he was just "testing" tabor to see if he would write a check. Once he did, Hilton ripped it up, as it was just a "test" in his mind.
Tallytowngirl
02-11-2008, 03:50 PM
I'm not quite buying into the Tabor's story... As everybody points out, why on earth would a homeless guy in need of money tear up a substantial check? Why turn down a chunk of free money but then go kidnap/kill somebody for a little bit of money? So, either the Tabors aren't quite being honest about handing Hilton free money...
Or maybe Hilton preferred kidnapping and killing for his money - he wasn't in it for money so much as for the thrill of the chase etc., and if he had money, he couldn't "rationalize" getting money by killing some poor hiker.
gardenmom
02-11-2008, 09:18 PM
I haven't been keeping up lately. I didn't know they found John Bryant's body. A very sad, but expected ending. Bless all the victims of this monster.
Tallytowngirl
02-21-2008, 12:14 PM
Published Feb. 15
Resident provides lead to catch UGA hiker slayer (http://www.gwinnettherald.com/Articles-i-2008-02-08-169929.112113_Resident_provides_lead_to_catch_UGA_ hiker_slayer.html)
A story about how wonderful Tabor is, but it also has little tidbits about Hilton that are interesting. Mentions Tabor went to the police about Hilton, but the police said they couldn't do anything.
panglossian
02-21-2008, 12:44 PM
Interesting article. Tabor was clearly antagonizing Hilton with that inclusion on the check. Why do that if he was so afraid of him. I still think there's something left out in his story. Why write the check in the first place instead of calling LE.
Native New Yorker
02-21-2008, 01:02 PM
interesting comments written after that article. Poor Meredith.
Emily Booth
02-21-2008, 11:16 PM
Something just doesn't make sense. I don't understand -- Hilton was the prime suspect when Meredith disappeared. Tabor recognized the description and contacted the GBI. Tabor did not believe Hilton could be capable of violence yet he bought a Glock to protect himself and his family from him. He set up a sting yet the GBI didn't play along. The GBI said the area was under surveillance and instructed him to not go to his office and to not give him a check. It was too late. As soon as Tabor promised Hilton $$, he didn't need Meredith anymore. Tabor didn't know that. But, shouldn't the GBI have known that?
Native New Yorker
02-21-2008, 11:33 PM
Yeah, I think this case was badly botched. When I lived in GA, no one had really high regard for the GBI.
I hate to say it, but as a victim of any crime, it is a miracle when people actually do get rescued....I am not putting down LE in general when I say that, but it just seems to be the way it is....
Tallytowngirl
02-22-2008, 11:35 AM
Lots of things about the Tabor story don't make sense... I think some of it could be Tabor suddenly being a "hero in the limelight" and kinda boasting a little... But there are some inconsistencies that can't be explained by that.
changing the subject just a little, Hilton called Tabor out of the blue, asking for money. didn't he also call "an old girlfriend" for money around the same time? Who is the old girlfriend and why haven't we heard more about/from her?
Truly
02-22-2008, 06:41 PM
Lots of things about the Tabor story don't make sense... I think some of it could be Tabor suddenly being a "hero in the limelight" and kinda boasting a little... But there are some inconsistencies that can't be explained by that.
changing the subject just a little, Hilton called Tabor out of the blue, asking for money. didn't he also call "an old girlfriend" for money around the same time? Who is the old girlfriend and why haven't we heard more about/from her?
Good points; we still haven't heard anything from any ex-wife or family. Hope they're helping investigators establish where he's been over the years.
Here is a deposition by John Tabor, (with his wife as his attorney) in which Mack Hilton is discussed on pgs 11-16, and then again beginning on pg 36.
http://hometown.aol.com/rmckin2146/index.html
The homeowner and others discuss Hilton on the wikizine
http://www.zimbio.com/Gary+Michael+Hilton/articles/1/Welcome+wikizine+Gary+Michael+Hilton+Meredith
Hiker
02-22-2008, 09:37 PM
....we still haven't heard anything from any ex-wife or family. Hope they're helping investigators establish where he's been over the years.If I had any connection to this guy I certainly wouldn't be talking to the media. To LE yes, but not to the media at all Here is a deposition by John Tabor, (with his wife as his attorney) in which Mack Hilton is discussed on pgs 11-16, and then again beginning on pg 36.
http://hometown.aol.com/rmckin2146/index.html Tabor is a real questionable piece of work. Read the whole deposition.
Truly
02-22-2008, 10:24 PM
If I had any connection to this guy I certainly wouldn't be talking to the media.
No kidding, the paparrazi would be awful. Still, it is curious that his marriages were each for only a year or so. I read that one wife was a security guard at Stone Mountain Park (near Atlanta), and I wonder if any sleuthers can find the doenetwork link to the female security guard who was killed at Stone Mountain? I spent a whole day looking through doenetwork with my jaw on the floor when I discovered WS last month, but I have no idea where this woman was listed.
Tabor is a real questionable piece of work. Read the whole deposition.
I read it; I just grabbed the page numbers for quick reference to Hilton. Tabor insists that Hilton did all the advertising for Insulated Wall Systems on his own, that he was not working for Tabor, even though Tabor id's his own handwriting; and that this Mack Hilton is not the Mack Hilton who the homeowner identifies as the man who worked on the shoddy deck!
In the wikizine, the homeowner seems to be the person who gave the photo of Hilton's van and tag number to police. :clap:
Tallytowngirl
02-25-2008, 01:36 PM
Another little story about Hilton and his neighbors - mostly Tabor, but another guy as well.
Tallahassee Democrat, Feb. 24
A glimpse into the history of murder suspect Hilton (http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008802240327)
Hiker
04-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Several young male hikers are saying they saw Hilton in the area around Franklin, NC (Winding Stair area on the Appalachian Trail) in October before the Bryants went missing. This is the area where John Bryant's remains were found. They talked with him and say he was creepy. (They have informed LE)
MCDRAW
04-02-2008, 01:04 AM
I'm not quite buying into the Tabor's story... As everybody points out, why on earth would a homeless guy in need of money tear up a substantial check? Why turn down a chunk of free money but then go kidnap/kill somebody for a little bit of money? So, either the Tabors aren't quite being honest about handing Hilton free money...
Or maybe Hilton preferred kidnapping and killing for his money - he wasn't in it for money so much as for the thrill of the chase etc., and if he had money, he couldn't "rationalize" getting money by killing some poor hiker.
In my opinion, it wasn't about the money. He could have gotten money any number of easier ways. I believe the thrill was in the killing and the money was icing on the cake.
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