Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #4

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[JDB]

I still say Brinna knew the prep

[SuziQ]

Can I ask that anyone that comes across the live feed to please link it? And please link anywhere you read info. Thanks!

[SeriouslySearching]

I am going to have to say I disagree, JDB. I just don't get the feeling that she knew the person any more than the other two women knew him. I don't think that is why he killed her. He escalated from rapist when he strangled her. He could have done this while raping her to add to his thrill of power and control.

[Leila]

A snip from the updated KTVN report:

"Officers describe the suspect as having a long face, square chin, brown hair, no accent, soft beard, firm stomach and shaved pubic region. He is driving an extended cab pickup or SUV and he may have recently changed addresses or place of business. They think he's still living in northwest Reno or near the University of Nevada. Police say "it's a good chance" they will find the suspect.


Police received several tips after yesterday's discovery, but they urge to still keep an eye out for any suspicious behavior; they say this man is still out there.[/URL]

Police say the body was there for more than a week. The details about the clothes she was wearing when she was found dead not be released."



From the above report it sounds like LE has a lot of additional information on the suspect. Hopefully they're closing in on him!

Edited to add link:
[URL]http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7882809 (http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7882809)

[dimples37398]

They feel he lives in the UNR or NW area but may work in the SE (S. Meadows area).

Manner of death is officially strangulation. There will be further tests.

They feel body was there more than a week.

Area where she was found had high weeds which could have helped to hide her.

A reporter asked about cameras on the buildings.

Businesses have been volunteering their video.

Officials found other items of evidence in the field but would not say what.

[SuziQ]

Can we please provide links?

[dimples37398]

They keep saying NW area is where they think he lives.....and that he works in the South Meadows Area....

[Leila]

Can we please provide links?

SuziQ..........I went back and added a link to the report I quoted. :)

[dimples37398]

I was watching a reporter from foxnews who was outside of the conference reporting what his partner whom was in the conference was sending him on his blackberry......But here is a link that says some of the same things.....

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NV_MISSING_WOMAN_4TH_LD_WRITETHRU_NVOL-?SITE=NVREN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[bigbuck]

I still say Brinna knew the prep

Perhaps because the perp unfortunately may have spent much more time with Brianna than the other victims. He was afraid that her descripition of him and what happened would be to detailed for him to risk releasing her.

[SuziQ]

Thank you for the links!:blowkiss:

[newshound81]

Mrs. Denison has lost a husband and now a daughter...it's unbelievable how some people can experience so much tragedy in their lives.

God bless this family. I hope something good comes of this in some way.

[10EC_Dad]

They keep saying NW area is where they think he lives.....and that he works in the South Meadows Area....

I said some time ago that he may live in the North Valleys area. It seems to meet the profile.

[SuziQ]

SS, I hope you are right about the discovery fulfilling this sicko's needs. Maybe that will buy LE enough time to catch him before he strikes again.

[10EC_Dad]

Mrs. Denison has lost a husband and now a daughter...it's unbelievable how some people can experience so much tragedy in their lives.

God bless this family. I hope something good comes of this in some way.

I appologize if I missed this on the thread, but how/when did she lose her husband?

[SuziQ]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone checked out that myspace guys page lately? I never asked for the link so I don't have it.

[dimples37398]

Yes as a matter of fact i did suzi......no comments in the past couple of weeks and he hasn't posted anything new since the last time I looked 2 weeks ago.....He did last log in 2/16 though......

Kel

[paddy01]

I still say Brinna knew the prep

JDB, I think it's quite possible that Brianna may have known him, not
like a personal friend, but someone she had casually met prior to his
attack on her. He may have realized "She recognizes me." and that
forced him into silencing her. JMO

[newshound81]

I appologize if I missed this on the thread, but how/when did she lose her husband?
Hi 10EC_Dad,

Here's the link to the RGJ story on it. It doesn't say much..."But then tragedy struck when Brianna was around 6 years old. Her father died."
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080127/NEWS/801270353/1321

[dimples37398]

I read in one of the articles somewhere that they are looking at all people working in those businesses right there where she was found.

I thought it was interesting since everyone was speculating at one point that he could dress that way because of him working out or being involved in a athletic type activity......and there is a tae-kwon-do place there....

a reporter did talk to a guy whom worked there at the tae-kwon-do place and I looked that guys myspace page up that the reporter was asking about the body being found....and it was private....lol......

From the reporter on tv who was relaying the press conference from his colleague inside .......it definately sounds like they have a better idea of the suspect maybe......they seem to be fairly sure about him living around UNR or the NW area, and him working around the S. Meadows area.....

They also believe he is still in the Reno area, and they are worried that he will strike again.....

Kel

[10EC_Dad]

JDB, I think it's quite possible that Brianna may have known him, not
like a personal friend, but someone she had casually met prior to his
attack on her. He may have realized "She recognizes me." and that
forced him into silencing her. JMO

One thing to consider with the theory that she knew him, is that she was in college in CA. So the theory would have to assume that 1) She knew him prior to going to college 2) She knew him in college 3) She met him while visiting that weekend.

If she knew her perp, my guess is that she met him that weekend.

[10EC_Dad]

Hi 10EC_Dad,

Here's the link to the RGJ story on it. It doesn't say much..."But then tragedy struck when Brianna was around 6 years old. Her father died."
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080127/NEWS/801270353/1321

Newshound, thank you for that link!!!

[newshound81]

I read in one of the articles somewhere that they are looking at all people working in those businesses right there where she was found.

I thought it was interesting since everyone was speculating at one point that he could dress that way because of him working out or being involved in a athletic type activity......and there is a tae-kwon-do place there....

a reporter did talk to a guy whom worked there at the tae-kwon-do place and I looked that guys myspace page up that the reporter was asking about the body being found....and it was private....lol......

From the reporter on tv who was relaying the press conference from his colleague inside .......it definately sounds like they have a better idea of the suspect maybe......they seem to be fairly sure about him living around UNR or the NW area, and him working around the S. Meadows area.....

They also believe he is still in the Reno area, and they are worried that he will strike again.....

Kel
Dimples, I didn't ask for it before, but now I'm curious...can you PM me that other guy's MySpace?

[dimples37398]

Posted in comments at the rgj website......

This is from a family member of Bri's

"As a family member of Bri I can only thank the RPD, SPD, FBI, and all the volunteers that helped keep the hope alive. The police have done an outstanding job and sometimes don't reveal everything they know for a reason. I wish it was okay to torture those who tortured your family but two wrongs won't make a right. This sick bastard will face the music very soon. Thanks again for the support."

[paddy01]

One thing to consider with the theory that she knew him, is that she was in college in CA. So the theory would have to assume that 1) She knew him prior to going to college 2) She knew him in college 3) She met him while visiting that weekend.

If she knew her perp, my guess is that she met him that weekend.

That's what I think happened, I think it was a chance meeting.

[newshound81]

Posted in comments at the rgj website......

This is from a family member of Bri's

"As a family member of Bri I can only thank the RPD, SPD, FBI, and all the volunteers that helped keep the hope alive. The police have done an outstanding job and sometimes don't reveal everything they know for a reason. I wish it was okay to torture those who tortured your family but two wrongs won't make a right. This sick bastard will face the music very soon. Thanks again for the support."
Wow, I wonder if an arrest will come today as well.

[dimples37398]

I don't know newshound but I do think they know more than they have released....I also think they have been finding little pieces of info out here and there and things are finally coming together as to who might have done it.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think they are close to an arrest at all. They wouldn't still be using that sketch and giving out a description which obviously doesn't match the sketch whatsoever!!

[10EC_Dad]

I don't think they are close to an arrest at all. They wouldn't still be using that sketch and giving out a description which obviously doesn't match the sketch whatsoever!!

Unless, some significant evidence was found with the body or a tip came in since the body was found, I don't think they are very close to an arrest either.

[LionRun]

Perhaps the family needs to focus now on the hope that the slime will be caught soon. I hope the slime is caught soon so that he cannot hurt anyone else and for the family.

Lion

[close_enough]

I don't think they are close to an arrest at all. They wouldn't still be using that sketch and giving out a description which obviously doesn't match the sketch whatsoever!!

i'm confused....do you mind showing me a link to the sketch...i can't remember any sketch, for some reason:confused:

[close_enough]

nevermind....i guess i could have searched to start with......it thought the info given out, is the same as this sketch though....am i missing something???

http://i.abcnews.com/US/story?id=4227385&page=1

[SeriouslySearching]

http://selflaugh.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/breaking-brianna-denison-sketch-released/

White man, 28-40 years old; long face with a square chin, facial hair about a quarter to a half an inch long below his chin that was soft and not prickly like stubble; brown hair; shaved pubic area.

None of the bolded description matches the sketch, imo.

[adnoid]

Key points from the press conference. (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216013&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews)

RGJ Special Report Section (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/SPECIAL30/80122019/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON&template=theme)

Facts about the suspect (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080129/NEWS18/80129044)

[IdahoMom]

Key points from the press conference. (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216013&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews)

RGJ Special Report Section (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216013&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews)

Facts about the suspect (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216013&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews)

Adnoid,

Thanks for all you've done to provide information. I know this crime has struck a chord with you, and I am sorry you are hurting.

[SeriouslySearching]

Adnoid, all three of those links go to the same article. ?

[Leila]

I feel the LE know a lot more about the suspect and probably have a good handle on it.

I suspect the perp may be someone who Brianna only knew of on a very peripheral basis..............someone who works as a clerk at a store, fast food place, or other place that she frequented. LE need to be examining Brianna's daily habits as well as those of the two other rape victims to see if there's anything in common. He may be someone who engages his potential victims in small talk while he waits on them, and then later stalks them. Or, someone who frequents the same places as his victims.

[SeriouslySearching]

I just think he saw Brianna from the road through the windows and the glass doors sleeping on the sofa then slipped in the unlocked door (which I am sure he was delighted to find it was unlocked). I don't see this as stalking with any of the victims. These were crimes of opportunity and not planned events. The girls were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. :(

[close_enough]

http://selflaugh.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/breaking-brianna-denison-sketch-released/

White man, 28-40 years old; long face with a square chin, facial hair about a quarter to a half an inch long below his chin that was soft and not prickly like stubble; brown hair; shaved pubic area.

None of the bolded description matches the sketch, imo.

to be honest....that picture isn't a very good one...it's so light!..i can't tell if there's fuzz on the face or not....

anywho, i hope they catch him real soon!

[adnoid]

Adnoid,

Thanks for all you've done to provide information. I know this crime has struck a chord with you, and I am sorry you are hurting.

You're welcome. It hurts, but more than that I'm pissed off. What right does some scumbag have to do this? I'm thinking about all the effort and expense our community will go through to ensure he is treated well and fairly when he is caught, the type of concern he did not show innocent Brianna. Once in custody people will come forward to support him that did not say a thing in support of Brianna. Local law enforcement, who worked so hard because of his disgusting actions, will be attacked mercilessly by this scumbag's defense team. Brianna's family and friends will likewise be trashed by his defenders.

I'd prefer to see him meet .45 caliber justice in a field.

[close_enough]

I just think he saw Brianna from the road through the windows and the glass doors sleeping on the sofa then slipped in the unlocked door (which I am sure he was delighted to find it was unlocked). I don't see this as stalking with any of the victims. These were crimes of opportunity and not planned events. The girls were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. :(

i'm leaning that way too, SS.....who knows?..he could have driven or walked by that house a number of times before that night/early morning....from everything i've read, it was a party house, more or less, & folks were coming in & out all the time.....with no curtains/blinds on that door, wouldn't be a problem at all to see inside....

[SeriouslySearching]

When Fox was breaking the news today, I noticed the Reporter said they were NOW going to put the DNA into a national data base. Was he just mistaken as he was about the money/backlog issue and that they were looking for a "possible killer"? (I still think he is an idiot!)

[SuziQ]

RPD press release saying body is Brianna
RENO POLICE DEPARTMENT (online@rgj.com)

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216015&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[close_enough]

RPD press release saying body is Brianna
RENO POLICE DEPARTMENT (online@rgj.com)

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216015&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

from the link above...

"We're asking the public to be observant and look for behavioral changes in people who match the description of the suspect, even in people they don't think could commit such a crime," Johns said those signs can include people who suddenly become overly anxious or nervous, who suddenly quit their job or move away without explanation or who unexpectedly sell a vehicle matching the suspect vehicle description. Johns said those changes could have occurred in January or even recently.

[paddy01]

I feel the LE know a lot more about the suspect and probably have a good handle on it.

I suspect the perp may be someone who Brianna only knew of on a very peripheral basis..............someone who works as a clerk at a store, fast food place, or other place that she frequented. LE need to be examining Brianna's daily habits as well as those of the two other rape victims to see if there's anything in common. He may be someone who engages his potential victims in small talk while he waits on them, and then later stalks them. Or, someone who frequents the same places as his victims.

Leila, a while back right after Brianna disappeared I said the same thing,
I thought perhaps a person who bags groceries at grocery store,pizza delivery guy. I think the perp knew he didn't stand a chance with her in
the real world.

[nanandjim]

I wonder if he killed her that night. I am assuming that he did. :(

[10EC_Dad]

Leila, a while back right after Brianna disappeared I said the same thing, I
thought perhaps a person who bags groceries at grocery store, pizza delivery guy. I think the perp knew he didn't stand a chance with her
in the real world.

I don't think he met or saw them through work. The work location just gave him opportunity to be close in proximity to the victims. I bet he works within 10 minutes of where the crimes were committed and lives within 30 mins.

The North Valley area seems to be a possibility for his house.

[IdahoMom]

You're welcome. It hurts, but more than that I'm pissed off. What right does some scumbag have to do this? I'm thinking about all the effort and expense our community will go through to ensure he is treated well and fairly when he is caught, the type of concern he did not show innocent Brianna. Once in custody people will come forward to support him that did not say a thing in support of Brianna. Local law enforcement, who worked so hard because of his disgusting actions, will be attacked mercilessly by this scumbag's defense team. Brianna's family and friends will likewise be trashed by his defenders.

I'd prefer to see him meet .45 caliber justice in a field.

I agree completely, adnoid. This guy needs to be brought to justice swiftly and in a very harsh manner! :furious:

[Taximom]

I just got home and heard this sad, sad news. RIP Brianna. :( I have to believe this killer will be found sooner rather than later.

[nanandjim]

Okay, my next question: Is this location near the airport runway? I'm trying to see if Brian's dream info is accurate. I personally think the guy is a fraud. However, if it is near a runway and there are white containers with G9 or whatever he said was on it, then, maybe, I'll apologize. :cool:

[adnoid]

The North Valley area seems to be a possibility for his house.

I've seen you say this a couple of times. What are your thoughts?

[Ca-Sun]

You're welcome. It hurts, but more than that I'm pissed off. What right does some scumbag have to do this? I'm thinking about all the effort and expense our community will go through to ensure he is treated well and fairly when he is caught, the type of concern he did not show innocent Brianna. Once in custody people will come forward to support him that did not say a thing in support of Brianna. Local law enforcement, who worked so hard because of his disgusting actions, will be attacked mercilessly by this scumbag's defense team. Brianna's family and friends will likewise be trashed by his defenders.

I'd prefer to see him meet .45 caliber justice in a field.Yep, this is exactly how it plays out for the criminal. What a shame, what a waste. The victims and their families suffer, while the criminal is treated well. The only thing I disagree with is meeting the .45. That is way too nice and easy - I'd prefer to just turn the perp lose in the general population of the prison yard. Problem solved, and you don't need to waste a bullet.

[panthera]

I still say Brinna knew the prep
Since Brianna was only visiting for the weekend and was going to college in California, do you think this guy is someone she'd met that evening? That's as close as I can come to thinking she knew him.

[panthera]

Okay, my next question: Is this location near the airport runway? I'm trying to see if Brian's dream info is accurate. I personally think the guy is a fraud. However, if it is near a runway and there are white containers with G9 or whatever he said was on it, then, maybe, I'll apologize. :cool:
It's slightly south of the airport, near Hwy. 395. It's been described as an industrial business area.

[adnoid]

Okay, my next question: Is this location near the airport runway? I'm trying to see if Brian's dream info is accurate. I personally think the guy is a fraud. However, if it is near a runway and there are white containers with G9 or whatever he said was on it, then, maybe, I'll apologize. :cool:

No, not near the airport at all.

[adnoid]

Since Brianna was only visiting for the weekend and was going to college in California, do you think this guy is someone she'd met that evening? That's as close as I can come to thinking she knew him.

I believe she went to high school in Reno and was with some of her high school friends.

[panthera]

I don't think he met or saw them through work. The work location just gave him opportunity to be close in proximity to the victims. I bet he works within 10 minutes of where the crimes were committed and lives within 30 mins.

The North Valley area seems to be a possibility for his house.
I tend to think he lives closer to where her body was found, or maybe even outside Reno. The area where Brianna was found is about 8-10 mi. from where she was abducted, on the very south end of the city in a business area. He might work near the university though.

[montana_16]

I just learned that Brianna's body has been found. I'm so sorry to hear this, always trying to hope for a better outcome. I am also so mad ,Mad,mad,mad!
Another innocent girl, her life stolen. It's so sickening.

[panthera]

I believe she went to high school in Reno and was with some of her high school friends.
Yes she was. I just don't think the suspect is someone she knew, unless he was someone she'd encountered at some point that night and he followed her to the house.

[JDB]

Since Brianna was only visiting for the weekend and was going to college in California, do you think this guy is someone she'd met that evening? That's as close as I can come to thinking she knew him.

No she lived in Reno when Shool was out.

[10EC_Dad]

I've seen you say this a couple of times. What are your thoughts?

I just spotted it on Google Maps while reviewing the area online.

It seems to fit demographically (sp?) with a young 30's couple with a middle class income and is a "safe" distance away from where the crimes have occured. It's close enough to commute to work but far enough away from the crimes to "live" two lives.

It's all speculation of course but it seems to fit a reasonable profile.

My guess on the profile has been, for some time, that the perp is in his early 30's, has one child, middle/lower middle income, quite but can be charming, low key. Lives in a modest suburb, works in the city 10-15 minutes from the crime locations.

I think he has been busy trying to live a "normal" life for the past few weeks. Eventually he will feel confident that he will not get caught. I once considered that he would become so paranoid that he would turn himself in or kill himself. I am leaning away from that now.

I do not think that he will stop until caught. He may not attack for a few months but his hunger will grow beyond his control in a few months. He seems to be more daring and out of controll with each attack.

Someone knows it's him but is afraid of the truth.

I may be way off base but it's just my opinion.

[teacherbonnie]

I'm beginning to wonder if the drawing of him is way off. If he works, he probably has co-workers. If he lives in a house/apt, he has neighbors. He could have ditched the vehicle before a description was released. It is just very odd that no one has spotted him.

[10EC_Dad]

I'm beginning to wonder if the drawing of him is way off. If he works, he probably has co-workers. If he lives in a house/apt, he has neighbors. He could have ditched the vehicle before a description was released. It is just very odd that no one has spotted him.

I think the scetch is off just enough that combined with his "quite likable guy" facade makes it hard to even think it is him. However, I bet someone has a sneaky suspicion but doesn't won't to be right or wrong if you know what I mean.

[SuziQ]

Isn't the sketch of the guy we don't even know is connected to this case?

[Ca-Sun]

I think the scetch is off just enough that combined with his "quite likable guy" facade makes it hard to even think it is him. However, I bet someone has a sneaky suspicion but doesn't won't to be right or wrong if you know what I mean.If he has a wife or girlfriend, they surely would be able to identify him from the description of his, uh, private area.

[SuziQ]

If he has a wife or girlfriend, they surely would be able to identify him from the description of his, uh, private area.

SS will kill me for talking about this again. But that charactaristic is so common that it wouldn't catch anyone's attention. It seems most people shave these days.

[SuziQ]

IMO, it was a mistake in releasing the sketch they did for the possibly unrelated case. People are looking for that guy. We don't know that is the guy we should be looking for. Heck, the rape happened so long ago that there is not any proof that a rape even happened. I'm not saying a rape didn't happen, just that it's a possibility that it didn't.

[panthera]

No she lived in Reno when Shool was out.
Oh, I'm sorry ~ I had always thought she was only there for the SWAT and staying at her parents house, but had decided to stay at KT's after they were out that evening.

[Ca-Sun]

SS will kill me for talking about this again. But that charactaristic is so common that it wouldn't catch anyone's attention. It seems most people shave these days.Um, er... LOL!!! Sorry, this just hit me really funny. I had no idea this is a common thing to do these days. I guarantee you, it would catch my attention! :)

[panthera]

I'm beginning to wonder if the drawing of him is way off. If he works, he probably has co-workers. If he lives in a house/apt, he has neighbors. He could have ditched the vehicle before a description was released. It is just very odd that no one has spotted him.
Even if the description of him was a little "off", if I knew someone with that description of truck/SUV I might look twice. People should be paying attention too to anyone they know who's changed their appearance since mid-December, like shaved his head and the goatee, or maybe sold the truck.

[panthera]

Um, er... LOL!!! Sorry, this just hit me really funny. I had no idea this is a common thing to do these days. I guarantee you, it would catch my attention! :)
The guy is supposed to be between 28-40 y/o, and I had no idea that age group was into shaving that part of their body either. :eek:

[Rick777]

I don't think they are close to an arrest at all. They wouldn't still be using that sketch and giving out a description which obviously doesn't match the sketch whatsoever!!


I totally agree. :mad:

[MysteryAddict]

I just heard that the body that was found is that of Brianna. I am so sad, in tears, OH God, how can we continue to endure this? Beautiful young girls snatched from us and murdered and thrown awaylike this?

Oh no! It's not acceptable to let this continue. Catch one of these Bastards! Make an example of him! Hang him by the B_LLs! Something has to be done!!!!!!!

Please let it STOP! Please let our beautiful young girls be safe again in America, we can only pray!

[SuziQ]

Shhhhhh, SS will smack us.....

[Rick777]

I hope she wasn't killed recently...after the perp felt pressure. I would hate to think she was held for a couple weeks waiting to be saved. :(

[SuziQ]

You know what I just noticed about the sketch? It was on the Reno pd site at one time. Now I can't find it. And I know at least once when I went to Briannas site it was there and now it's not. I wonder if LE discounted a connection for the time being? I think the last I heard was LE was trying to run DNA regarding the parking garage rape.

[Ca-Sun]

The guy is supposed to be between 28-40 y/o, and I had no idea that age group was into shaving that part of their body either. :eek:Whew! Thank you, Panthera - I feel better now.

[adnoid]

...Someone knows it's him but is afraid of the truth...I may be way off base but it's just my opinion.

Well, you could also be right. Nothing I have seen contradicts your conjecture.

I do feel that someone, somewhere, has a nagging suspicion that they know the guy and that he'll be caught as a result of a tip. And I hope it happens soon.

[Ca-Sun]

Shhhhhh, SS will smack us.....Why would she think about doing that?

[dimples37398]

I made a map of different events in this case, I know tons of people are skeptical of Brian's Dreams guy (as am I) but I went ahead and highlighted anywhere that 9th street intersects G street just in case people who do believe or just want to compare the G9 in his dream to G street and 9th street.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=25+sparks+nv&sll=39.537526,-119.746149&sspn=0.007397,0.014462&ie=UTF8&ll=39.513841,-119.753466&spn=0.029598,0.05785&z=14

[Ca-Sun]

Brianna's family has released a statement, here (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216023&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews).

[panthera]

Whew! Thank you, Panthera - I feel better now.
DH & I are at the high end of that age group, and I can't post what he's thinking of this guy! :)

[panthera]

I made a map of different events in this case, I know tons of people are skeptical of Brian's Dreams guy (as am I) but I went ahead and highlighted anywhere that 9th street intersects G street just in case people who do believe or just want to compare the G9 in his dream to G street and 9th street.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=25+sparks+nv&sll=39.537526,-119.746149&sspn=0.007397,0.014462&ie=UTF8&ll=39.513841,-119.753466&spn=0.029598,0.05785&z=14
It's in the general area but it doesn't seem to be anywhere near the abduction or site where she was found. It might still mean something, though.

[Ca-Sun]

DH & I are at the high end of that age group, and I can't post what he's thinking of this guy! :)It's not too difficult to imagine what he is thinking. But, I sure wonder why they do it? What's the point? :confused:

I just hope whoever knows this guy turns him in SOON. Like others here have said - somebody knows who this POS is.

[BrowneyedEmily]

This guy is getting a lot more bold. Killing Brianna doesn't fit with the previous attacks, unless there are more that haven't been reported. It was bold of him to sexually assault/rape the previous victim in the police parking garage, but for him to actually kill his latest (we think) victim, to me says that he's getting a lot more confidence. I would be very cautious. I wouldn't be surprised if, if he has another victim, he speaks to her or persuades her that he's something he's not, like a police officer. This guy needs to be caught. He's not going to stop if he doesn't.

[panthera]

It's not too difficult to imagine what he is thinking. But, I sure wonder why they do it? What's the point? :confused:

I just hope whoever knows this guy turns him in SOON. Like others here have said - somebody knows who this POS is.
I think you and I are both lost trying to figure that out in general, but as for the perp if it was to not leave behind DNA, he failed! It's possible he's single and no one he works with would have an idea of his quirks; except for the baby shoe in his truck makes it seem like he at least was in a relationship with someone and has a child.

[panthera]

This guy is getting a lot more bold. Killing Brianna doesn't fit with the previous attacks, unless there are more that haven't been reported. It was bold of him to sexually assault/rape the previous victim in the police parking garage, but for him to actually kill his latest (we think) victim, to me says that he's getting a lot more confidence. I would be very cautious. I wouldn't be surprised if, if he has another victim, he speaks to her or persuades her that he's something he's not, like a police officer. This guy needs to be caught. He's not going to stop if he doesn't.
I'm worried too with it being a month since he abducted & killed Brianna, seeing that the previous attacks were a month apart. That would be totally scary if he was impersonating someone in a position of trust. :eek:

[happy2bn10ec]

Brianna's family has released a statement, here (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216023&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews).

This family's ways (for lack of a better word) remind me of Sharon Rocha.

[teacherbonnie]

BEmily...I never heard it was in the police parking garage! Wow. This was the Dec. victim? He's way too confident.

[BrowneyedEmily]

BEmily...I never heard it was in the police parking garage! Wow. This was the Dec. victim? He's way too confident.

He is - it's terrifying that this man is still out there. The bad thing is he's getting more confident. The thing that reallllllly bothers me is that during one of his previous sexual assaults, he used a handgun, yet, he strangled Brianna. To me, that means it is definitely a lot more about power and what that does to him. Terrifying.

Panthera: the police parking garage attack was from October - I'm having trouble finding the article where I read that now, but I'll post it when I do.

[Bobbisangel]

One thing to consider with the theory that she knew him, is that she was in college in CA. So the theory would have to assume that 1) She knew him prior to going to college 2) She knew him in college 3) She met him while visiting that weekend.

If she knew her perp, my guess is that she met him that weekend.


I wonder if it could be something as simple as him seeing her that night when she was out with friends. He could have followed them around without being noticed in a crowd and then followed at a distance when she left. Waited somewhere by the place she was staying until he felt it was safe to go in and grab her. He could have been out looking for his next girl and spotted her deciding that she was the one he wanted.

[panthera]

He is - it's terrifying that this man is still out there. The bad thing is he's getting more confident. The thing that reallllllly bothers me is that during one of his previous sexual assaults, he used a handgun, yet, he strangled Brianna. To me, that means it is definitely a lot more about power and what that does to him. Terrifying.

Panthera: the police parking garage attack was from October - I'm having trouble finding the article where I read that now, but I'll post it when I do.
I didn't question that attack in October ~ it was another poster! But, I thought the ones that are tied back to this perp are the Nov. & Dec. assaults? The October one, not only is the gun different from Nov./Dec. but the suspect doesn't match the description of the Dec. assault. I'm not sure it's the same guy in October.

[panthera]

I wonder if it could be something as simple as him seeing her that night when she was out with friends. He could have followed them around without being noticed in a crowd and then followed at a distance when she left. Waited somewhere by the place she was staying until he felt it was safe to go in and grab her. He could have been out looking for his next girl and spotted her deciding that she was the one he wanted.
I think he was probably at the casino and followed her from there and waited outside until the right time. I totally agree as to how he scoped her out deciding she was "the one".

[BrowneyedEmily]

I didn't question that attack in October ~ it was another poster! But, I thought the ones that are tied back to this perp are the Nov. & Dec. assaults? The October one, not only is the gun different from Nov./Dec. but the suspect doesn't match the description of the Dec. assault. I'm not sure it's the same guy in October.

That could be - I'll read more on it. And sorry! I got the names wrong. :)


Bobbisangel: do you know how close the house of the December victim's attack was in relation to the house Brianna was in? A report I read said someone (I think they're assuming it's the suspect?) tried to break into that victims house the day before Brianna's disappearance. Maybe he was just looking for an opportunity?

[panthera]

That could be - I'll read more on it. And sorry! I got the names wrong. :)



No problem! :blowkiss:

[englishleigh]

This family's ways (for lack of a better word) remind me of Sharon Rocha.

Absolutely...nothing but class and caring. God bless them during this awful time and they will be in my prayers. :(

Justice for Bri!!

[panthera]

Key things mentioned at Denison briefing

The body found Friday in southeast Reno is that of kidnapped college student Brianna Denison, the Reno Police Department announced today at a press conference.


Among the details provided by police:

Denison was strangled.
It was a “sexually motivated crime.”
Her body lay in a field near Sandhill Road and Double R Boulevard for more than one week.
There is other evidence in the field.
Since the body was found early Friday afternoon, authorities have received reports of past suspicious activity.Police also again asked for the public’s help in finding Denison’s killer. Anyone with information can reach the Reno police hot line at 745-3521, detectives at 334-2115 or Secret Witness at 322-4900. Secret Witness is offering a $2,500 reward for anonymous tips that lead to an arrest and prosecution.

Denison, 19, was abducted Jan. 20 from a friend’s house near the University of Nevada, Reno.

A worker from a nearby industrial complex spotted the body just after noon in a brush-covered field in southeast Reno. The field is directly across from one office and mixed-use industrial mall and behind another. The remains were found about 100 feet from the curb of Sandhill Road. The site is about eight miles south of the house where Denison was last seen.

Office workers in the area said the field had been covered in snow earlier in the week and that the snow melted over the past few days.

The Reno Police Department continues to investigate the crime scene today.

Evidence suggests that Denison was kidnapped from a home by a man linked to two, possibly three other assaults in the area.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216013&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080216/NEWS18/80216013&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews)


I'm finding the specific location interesting, and now maybe thinking the perp works in the area and left her there to keep track of when she was found?

[Ca-Sun]

I didn't question that attack in October ~ it was another poster! But, I thought the ones that are tied back to this perp are the Nov. & Dec. assaults? The October one, not only is the gun different from Nov./Dec. but the suspect doesn't match the description of the Dec. assault. I'm not sure it's the same guy in October.
Here is what I found on the November and December attacks:

About 5 p.m. Nov. 13, a 21-year-old UNR student was walking to her home and was in the parking lot of her apartment complex in the 400 block of College Drive when a man grabbed her and fondled her. He ran away after she kicked him and screamed.
• About 2 a.m., Dec. 16, a 22-year-old UNR student was walking to her apartment in the 1400 block of North Virginia Street when a man grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious. She woke up inside his pickup and was forced to commit a sexual act on him before he drove her home.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...WS01/801280338 (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080128/NEWS01/801280338)

[Ca-Sun]

This article is about the October attack, but doesn't say it was in a police parking garage.

Police have more DNA, 4th attack victim in Reno

Associated Press - January 31, 2008 9:54 PM ET

RENO, Nev. (AP) - Some significant developments in Reno tonight in the investigation of the suspected kidnapping of Brianna Denison.

Policy say DNA evidence has now linked her case to two other attacks late last year on women in the same neighborhood near the campus of the University of Nevada, Reno.

In addition, they say they're investigating another 2007 case that could be related. That one involves the alleged rape of a woman who came forward for the first time yesterday to say she was assaulted at gunpoint in October in a parking garage just south of the Lawlor Events Center.

Police already had linked the December case to the suspected abduction of the 19-year-old Denison, who last was seen on January 20th. They now also have additional DNA evidence to tie those to a separate attack in November.

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp...2&nav=9qrxIVXi (http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=7806202&nav=9qrxIVXi)
__________________

[panthera]

Here is what I found on the November and December attacks:

About 5 p.m. Nov. 13, a 21-year-old UNR student was walking to her home and was in the parking lot of her apartment complex in the 400 block of College Drive when a man grabbed her and fondled her. He ran away after she kicked him and screamed.
• About 2 a.m., Dec. 16, a 22-year-old UNR student was walking to her apartment in the 1400 block of North Virginia Street when a man grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious. She woke up inside his pickup and was forced to commit a sexual act on him before he drove her home.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...WS01/801280338
If the DNA didn't match I wouldn't even think it was the same perpetrator. The first two were grabbed while they were walking and Brianna was abducted from inside the house presumably while she was asleep, sometime after 4:30am. The first victim fought him off and he ran away and he dropped the 2nd one off at her home. Brianna is killed and dumped in a field 8 miles away. :waitasec:

[Ca-Sun]

If the DNA didn't match I wouldn't even think it was the same perpetrator. The first two were grabbed while they were walking and Brianna was abducted from inside the house presumably while she was asleep, sometime after 4:30am. The first victim fought him off and he ran away and he dropped the 2nd one off at her home. Brianna is killed and dumped in a field 8 miles away. :waitasec:
What I found interesting is the 12/16 victim said "he grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious." The DNA did match. The attack in October is questionable.

[SuziQ]

Just to be clear, I don't think the October attack has ever been absolutely linked to the others. In fact most of the articles and sketches relating to the October attack are not online anymore. I have no idea what the reason behind that is. Reno PD and Breanna's sites have removed it. I'm not seeing it anyways.

[BrowneyedEmily]

Just to be clear, I don't think the October attack has ever been absolutely linked to the others. In fact most of the articles and sketches relating to the October attack are not online anymore. I have no idea what the reason behind that is. Reno PD and Breanna's sites have removed it. I'm not seeing it anyways.

It's probably because the victim didn't report it until after Brianna's disappearance. It could be seen as unreliable evidence. :(

[SuziQ]

What I found interesting is the 12/16 victim said "he grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious." The DNA did match. The attack in October is questionable.

Some of us were theorizing that it was anything from strangulation to Chloroform (sp).

[Ca-Sun]

Some of us were theorizing that it was anything from strangulation to Chloroform (sp).
Could be anything. I just found it interesting.

[panthera]

What I found interesting is the 12/16 victim said "he grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious." The DNA did match. The attack in October is questionable.
I'm thinking about the sofa in KT's living room, and wondering which end of it Brianna's head was at, like if it was close to the door and he just walked in and he could sneak up behind her. That would definitely fit in with the manner he attacked the Dec. victim.

[Ca-Sun]

I'm thinking about the sofa in KT's living room, and wondering which end of it Brianna's head was at, like if it was close to the door and he just walked in and he could sneak up behind her. That would definitely fit in with the manner he attacked the Dec. victim.How did he know he could just come in and render her unconscious?

[bigbuck]

Could be anything. I just found it interesting.

I'm pretty sure I read he grabbed her from behind and took her to the ground. He then put his right arm across her throat while covering her mouth and nose with his left hand. I know the link is in this thread somewhere.

[Ca-Sun]

I'm pretty sure I read he grabbed her from behind and took her to the ground. He then put his right arm across her throat while covering her mouth and nose with his left hand. I think the link is in this thread somewhere.Thanks, Big - I'm sure you are correct, I remember reading it too.

[bigbuck]

Thanks, Big - I'm sure you are correct, I remember reading it too.

Your welcome. She is lucky to be alive. He easily could have killed her too, and then he drives her home??

:waitasec:

[Leila]

Fox News - Kimberly Guilgoyle - The Lindeup, is covering the case of Brianna tonight, and also the NYC meat cleaver case.

[panthera]

How did he know he could just come in and render her unconscious?
Not only that question, but her blood was on the pillow and his DNA was left at the scene. So something other than him just sneaking up behind her & carrying her off must have happened. :confused:

[panthera]

Fox News - Kimberly Guilgoyle - The Lindeup, is covering the case of Brianna tonight, and also the NYC meat cleaver case.
Hi Leila! I'm watching Fox News too, and just saw the perp walk for that scumbag in NYC. I'm hoping to see one for Brianna's killer soon too!!! :behindbar

[Ca-Sun]

Not only that question, but her blood was on the pillow and his DNA was left at the scene. So something other than him just sneaking up behind her & carrying her off must have happened. :confused:I think the DNA they obtained was from natural oil that is found in fingerprints, or even a partial print. Something like that anyway. Her blood was found on the pillow.

[panthera]

I think the DNA they obtained was from natural oil that is found in fingerprints, or even a partial print. Something like that anyway. Her blood was found on the pillow.
It's her blood on the pillow that I'm interesting in since her COD was strangulation. I wonder what he did to her at the house to cause her to bleed?

[adnoid]

I'm pretty sure I read he grabbed her from behind and took her to the ground. He then put his right arm across her throat while covering her mouth and nose with his left hand. I know the link is in this thread somewhere.

Don't know if this is where you saw it, but the info is on the America's Most Wanted site:

AMW Brianna Denison page (http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=52576)

[teacherbonnie]

Hey, if I came up behind someone, put my forearm against their throat and covered their nose and mouth with my hand, I don't have enough knowledge to know when to quit! Meaning...I wouldn't know how to only "render them unconscious." Would you?

[Ca-Sun]

Hey, if I came up behind someone, put my forearm against their throat and covered their nose and mouth with my hand, I don't have enough knowledge to know when to quit! Meaning...I wouldn't know how to only "render them unconscious." Would you?No, not at all.

[Ca-Sun]

It's her blood on the pillow that I'm interesting in since her COD was strangulation. I wonder what he did to her at the house to cause her to bleed?Good question. At this point, we can only guess. I don't know where I got the info regarding the DNA - I can't find it anywhere, so I am probably mistaken.

[teacherbonnie]

So does that tell us anything about him? Does it take medical knowledge to know how long that's safe to do????

[panthera]

Good question. At this point, we can only guess. I don't know where I got the info regarding the DNA - I can't find it anywhere, so I am probably mistaken.
We know he left DNA at the house that linked him to the other assaults, but I don't remember reading or hearing exactly what it was. :)

[katherine phillips]

Laying low for a while....this is way too close to home and you can imagine why given RPD's views on where perp works. Too scary now.

I just hope RPD does their DD and knows which companies have graveyard shifts in the immediate vicinity...I can think of 1 (and only 1).

Keep sleuthing, they better catch him,,,my heart goes out to her family and friends. Very sad.

[panthera]

Hey, if I came up behind someone, put my forearm against their throat and covered their nose and mouth with my hand, I don't have enough knowledge to know when to quit! Meaning...I wouldn't know how to only "render them unconscious." Would you?
I'd think chloroform would do that and not just putting his hand over the person's nose & mouth. Something would have to prevent the victim from fighting him off with their arms.

[panthera]

Laying low for a while....this is way too close to home and you can imagine why given RPD's views on where perp works. Too scary now.

I just hope RPD does their DD and knows which companies have graveyard shifts in the immediate vicinity...I can think of 1 (and only 1).

Keep sleuthing, they better catch him,,,my heart goes out to her family and friends. Very sad.
Out of curiousity since you're in the area, but why do you think he works graveyard shift? The Nov. attack was at 5pm, Dec. attack at 2am, and Brianna was abducted sometime after 4:30am, so it seems there's no real pattern with the time of his attacks. I'm also thinking now that maybe he works near where her body was found. Just a thought!

[Ca-Sun]

We know he left DNA at the house that linked him to the other assaults, but I don't remember reading or hearing exactly what it was. :)Jeeze - apparently I didn't read what I thought I did, but at least he DID leave DNA.

[panthera]

Jeeze - apparently I didn't read what I thought I did, but at least he DID leave DNA.
I'm following other cases and sometimes I have to remember which one has what evidence, etc. so I know it gets confusing! :)

[LionRun]

I don't think that he necessarily had to use chloroform to disable his victims. One of the previous victims stated that he was very strong.

I was nearly disabled by a very quick, very strong serial rapist years ago. I had mace on the seat next to me, and although I knew exactly where it was, I didn't have a chance in heck of getting to it. He was too fast, too coordinated, and too strong. I did get away by starting my car and taking off blind, with him on me trying to pull me apart with his hands. Had I not been in the car with him through my window which gave me the advantage, there is no way I would have escaped him. I was in excellent physical condition, but I would not have had a chance. Though I escaped he still hurt me physically in a very short period of time.

Lion

[teacherbonnie]

panthera...chloroform was never mentioned with that victim. We did go round and round about chloroform being used on Bri, though.

Also, you are right about the DNA left at the home. Something "oily" lifted from a surface. This came from the mouth of some LE being interviewed quite early but none have ever mentioned it again that I know of.

[panthera]

panthera...chloroform was never mentioned with that victim. We did go round and round about chloroform being used on Bri, though.

Also, you are right about the DNA left at the home. Something "oily" lifted from a surface. This came from the mouth of some LE being interviewed quite early but none have ever mentioned it again that I know of.
Yes, I was referring to Brianna when I thought of the chloroform. Thanks also for confirming the DNA source. I'd missed that statement from LE. :)

[Ca-Sun]

panthera...chloroform was never mentioned with that victim. We did go round and round about chloroform being used on Bri, though.

Also, you are right about the DNA left at the home. Something "oily" lifted from a surface. This came from the mouth of some LE being interviewed quite early but none have ever mentioned it again that I know of.So I DID read it! Thank you teacherbonnie :blowkiss:

[teacherbonnie]

LionRun that is terrifying!!!! It's a horror I can imagine. I hope you ran him over during your get away.

[Indy Gal]

I don't think that he necessarily had to use chloroform to disable his victims. One of the previous victims stated that he was very strong.

I was nearly disabled by a very quick, very strong serial rapist years ago. I had mace on the seat next to me, and although I knew exactly where it was, I didn't have a chance in heck of getting to it. He was too fast, too coordinated, and too strong. I did get away by starting my car and taking off blind, with him on me trying to pull me apart with his hands. Had I not been in the car with him through my window which gave me the advantage, there is no way I would have escaped him. I was in excellent physical condition, but I would not have had a chance. Though I escaped he still hurt me physically in a very short period of time.

Lion
Oh my Lion, HUGS!! :blowkiss:

[panthera]

I don't think that he necessarily had to use chloroform to disable his victims. One of the previous victims stated that he was very strong.

I was nearly disabled by a very quick, very strong serial rapist years ago. I had mace on the seat next to me, and although I knew exactly where it was, I didn't have a chance in heck of getting to it. He was too fast, too coordinated, and too strong. I did get away by starting my car and taking off blind, with him on me trying to pull me apart with his hands. Had I not been in the car with him through my window which gave me the advantage, there is no way I would have escaped him. I was in excellent physical condition, but I would not have had a chance. Though I escaped he still hurt me physically in a very short period of time.

Lion
Thank goodness you're here with us now ~ that must have been horrendous. :blowkiss:

[adnoid]

We know he left DNA at the house that linked him to the other assaults, but I don't remember reading or hearing exactly what it was. :)

I've read back over a few things, and I could be totally missing something, but all the reports describe a spot of blood left on the pillow where she was sleeping. Perhaps the blood was from the attacker, not Brianna?

[panthera]

I've read back over a few things, and I could be totally missing something, but all the reports describe a spot of blood left on the pillow where she was sleeping. Perhaps the blood was from the attacker, not Brianna?
Sorry I don't have the link, but I distinctly remember the blood being referred to as Brianna's. I probably read it in one of the rgj.com articles since that's where I was reading most of the news from. :)

[Ca-Sun]

I've read back over a few things, and I could be totally missing something, but all the reports describe a spot of blood left on the pillow where she was sleeping. Perhaps the blood was from the attacker, not Brianna?Almost everywhere it says the blood is Brianna's. I thought I read where they got the attacker's DNA from an oily substance, but when I went back and looked, I couldn't find it. Teacherbonnie said that statement came from LE early in the case.

[LionRun]

I've read back over a few things, and I could be totally missing something, but all the reports describe a spot of blood left on the pillow where she was sleeping. Perhaps the blood was from the attacker, not Brianna?

I heard a sergeant or detective involved in the case state that it was Brianna's blood found on the pillow. i heard that several times, and the person seemed quite sure that that was the case.

Lion

[teacherbonnie]

adnoid, early on we heard the blood was Bri's and the DNA came from something "oily" left by the perp. Of course, that could be incorrect.

Thank you for all your info in the past 24 hrs.

Special thoughts go to Bri's family and friends on this first night of knowing.

[LionRun]

Thank you for your kind words. It was absolutely terrifying beyond words. I wanted to share that only to let people know that it may not have been necessary to abduct Brianna with chloroform or any other fast acting drug. A strong, agile attacker with some practice in his belt can quickly disable a young woman in very short period of time.

Lion

[panthera]

Thank you for your kind words. It was absolutely terrifying beyond words. I wanted to share that only to let people know that it may not have been necessary to abduct Brianna with chloroform or any other fast acting drug. A strong, agile attacker with some practice in his belt can quickly disable a young woman in very short period of time.

Lion
Thanks again for sharing that Lion. :)

Prayers tonight for Brianna's family, and good night everyone!

[adnoid]

adnoid, early on we heard the blood was Bri's and the DNA came from something "oily" left by the perp. Of course, that could be incorrect...

The safest thing to do is assume I am wrong. It's worked for 20 years for Mrs. Adnoid! :D

[Leila]

I don't think that he necessarily had to use chloroform to disable his victims. One of the previous victims stated that he was very strong.

I was nearly disabled by a very quick, very strong serial rapist years ago. I had mace on the seat next to me, and although I knew exactly where it was, I didn't have a chance in heck of getting to it. He was too fast, too coordinated, and too strong. I did get away by starting my car and taking off blind, with him on me trying to pull me apart with his hands. Had I not been in the car with him through my window which gave me the advantage, there is no way I would have escaped him. I was in excellent physical condition, but I would not have had a chance. Though I escaped he still hurt me physically in a very short period of time.

Lion


What a terrible thing to have happen. :eek: I'm glad you got away and survived! Hugs

[Leila]

panthera...chloroform was never mentioned with that victim. We did go round and round about chloroform being used on Bri, though.

Also, you are right about the DNA left at the home. Something "oily" lifted from a surface. This came from the mouth of some LE being interviewed quite early but none have ever mentioned it again that I know of.

Oil from one's skin or hair are the only oily substances I can think of that the body secretes. Are there any other secretions that would be considered oily?

[LionRun]

Good question Leila. Body oils and ear wax are the only two substances that have an oil base in the human body that I'm aware of. If they were able to recover some oily material and successfully get a DNA profile from it, that is very good. If they catch the slime than they will be one step closer to a conviction.

Lion

[Ca-Sun]

Oil from one's skin or hair are the only oily substances I can think of that the body secretes. Are there any other secretions that would be considered oily?I believe it was from the attacker's skin, like a partial fingerprint, or something.

[Dark Knight]

I bet this guy has some MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) training or experience. LE should follow that possibility. Mixed Martial Artists regularly "choke out" their opponents in a short period of time. They simple render them unconscious, they don't actually kill them, obviously. They do it by cutting off the blood supply to the brain, rather than the air supply, in many cases. Or a combo of both.

[KR2tonenow]

thanks for the sad news guys...poor Brianna

[Dark Knight]

Here is more information on one way to "choke out" a person without killing them:

http://www.mmamadness.com/mmapedia.html?mmapediaitem_id=46

The killer may simply have ju jitsu training, military training, or even LE training, all of which teach you these techniques. The fact he was described as being strong indicates he is likely involved in one of these, if not MMA, itself.

[KR2tonenow]

I don't think they are close to an arrest at all. They wouldn't still be using that sketch and giving out a description which obviously doesn't match the sketch whatsoever!!

My thoughts too, they have DNA but dont have a match to perp.:mad:

[SuziQ]

I bet this guy has some MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) training or experience. LE should follow that possibility. Mixed Martial Artists regularly "choke out" their opponents in a short period of time. They simple render them unconscious, they don't actually kill them, obviously. They do it by cutting off the blood supply to the brain, rather than the air supply, in many cases. Or a combo of both.

I can't find the post, but someone mentioned that there is a tae kwon do studio right by where the body was found.

[KR2tonenow]

>snip


Police in Nevada Hunt a Serial Rapist

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By MARTIN GRIFFITH, AP
38 minutes ago //

RENO, Nev. — A 19-year-old college student missing since she was abducted nearly a month ago was strangled by a serial rapist who has attacked at least two other women and may strike again, Reno police said Saturday.
An autopsy confirmed that a dead woman found Friday in a brush-covered field near a business park was Brianna Denison and that she died of strangulation, Reno Deputy Police Chief Jim Johns said.
Her body had been in the field for more than a week about 8 miles from the house where she last was seen early Jan. 20 at the edge of the University of Nevada, Reno, he said.
"I would say this is a serial rapist," Johns said at a news conference. "We have two, probably three (cases) linked through DNA."
"The totality of the information in this case leads us to believe it is a sexually motivated crime," he said. "I'm worried this guy is still out there, and I'm worried somebody else is going to get hurt."
Campus officers will do all they can to support investigators "in hunting this animal down and bringing him to justice," said university Police Chief Adam Garcia.
Heavy snowfall over the past few weeks may have delayed the discovery of her body, police said.
Denison was abducted by a suspected rapist that police have linked by DNA to a string of attacks near the Reno campus. A student at Santa Barbara City College in California, she was visiting her hometown over winter break and was last seen sleeping on a couch at a friend's rental house just off campus.
DNA evidence links Denison's kidnapping to two other attacks on women near the university late last year, police said, and an earlier campus attack also could be related.
In that earlier incident, the attacker brazenly raped a woman at gunpoint in a garage where campus police park their cruisers.
Based on partial descriptions from previous victims, police have described the suspect as a white male between ages 28 and 40 and at least 5 feet 6, with a long face and brown hair. He was believed to have no accent or regional dialect.
he killer's familiarity with the city suggests he likely lives in Reno, Johns said, adding that he believes the "chances are very good" they will catch him.
"It could be tomorrow, next month, next year. We are going to find this suspect," he told reporters.
[I]The killer probably lives near the campus just north of the downtown casino district or on the city's nearby northwest side, Johns said, and he may work closer to the city's southeast side, where the body was found.
"Somewhere in our community there is a wife, a mom, a girlfriend, a sister who recognizes this suspect. Likely he looks like somebody you would least suspect, but that is the person who is responsible for this crime," he said.
[I]Publicity of the manhunt may cause the rapist to stop attacking, but "our absolute fear is he may re-offend," Johns said.
Denison's disappearance generated an outpouring of support from the community. Hundreds of volunteers aided in daily searches in and around Reno, and electronic casino marquees featured her photograph.
One of the "Bring Bri Back" fliers with her photo and information about a suspect and suspect vehicle was tacked to a telephone pole on the corner of the field where her body was found about noon on Friday.
Bridgette Denison, Brianna's mother, issued a statement on behalf of the family Saturday thanking police and the community for their help in the search for her daughter.
"On March 29, 1988, Bridgette and Jeffrey Denison were given the incredible gift of their daughter Brianna. On January 20, 2008, she became the daughter of our entire community," she said in the statement.
Bridgette Denison asked that every woman in the community "be diligent about their own safety."
"We ask once again that if there is anyone out there with information, we beg you to come forward. Now is the time."
Gov. Jim Gibbons issued a statement offering sympathy to the Denisons and urging the community to "continue helping law enforcement in the efforts to find Brianna's killer."
"Brianna's story has clearly captured the hearts of our entire comunity and state," he said.

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[Dark Knight]

I can't find the post, but someone mentioned that there is a tae kwon do studio right by where the body was found.

That's certainly a place for LE to at least look at, although tae kaon do doesn't teach grappling/choke outs, as much. And that's not to say they wouldn't teach other methods there. That's certainly interesting, thanks!

ETA: Of course, a quick strike to the right part of the head would also do the trick, if you knew where to hit someone. TKD would help someone in that regards.

[Ca-Sun]

Here is more information on one way to "choke out" a person without killing them:

http://www.mmamadness.com/mmapedia.html?mmapediaitem_id=46

The killer may simply have ju jitsu training, military training, or even LE training, all of which teach you these techniques. The fact he was described as being strong indicates he is likely involved in one of these, if not MMA, itself.Would one learn that in Tai Kwon Do? You aren't the first person to mention LE, and there is a MA place very close to where Brianna's body was found.

[Dark Knight]

Would one learn that in Tai Kwon Do? You aren't the first person to mention LE, and there is a MA place very close to where Brianna's body was found.

See my above post, which was posted right as you asked this, lol! While LE is certainly possible, learning choke outs can be done by literally anyone. This person sounds pretty trained, though, possibly, to be that effective, that fast.

[SeriouslySearching]

I just don't think this guy would dump her anywhere near his work or home. I don't know why LE would theorize this, but to me it doesn't make sense. He is going to distance himself from her body instead of put her in his backyard, so to speak.

[MCDRAW]

I just don't think this guy would dump her anywhere near his work or home. I don't know why LE would theorize this, but to me it doesn't make sense. He is going to distance himself from her body instead of put her in his backyard, so to speak.


Unless he is taunting LE.

[SeriouslySearching]

How would that be taunting LE to put her near him? That would only be an enormous mistake on his part.

[LionRun]

I think he dumped her in a place that he felt comfortable enough driving to, but that wasn't too close to anything directly, "within any of his turfs." That could be close to where he worked, but not tooooo close to where he worked.

Killers organized enough to think about where they will dump a body want that, "distance" concerning where they dump a body, yet they want to travel and do this within an area that they feel comfortable in.

And, it's all relative. A long distance trucker who happens to be a serial killer will have a huge comfort area both to kill and dump a body. Le might be thinking that because all three known abductions/attacks occurred within blocks of each other or very near to each other, and they believe he lives near to there, he has a small territorial range. Therefor, where he dumped her body might be within another small geographical comfort area. And, this might be near to where he works. I'm just thinking out loud here.

Lion

[SuziQ]

Sometimes killers like to see their artwork. The one thing I keep thinking about is of all the closer isolated places he could have left her, he left her in a fairly busy area 8 miles away. And when did he leave her there? He kidnapped her shortly before sunrise, couldn't risk being seen right? LE is stating that they will not release how long she's been dead. Or how long she's been in the field. So if it's not the obvious answer of Jan 20th. When was it?

[SuziQ]

I found the post about the tae-kwon-do. I would love to see that video.

I read in one of the articles somewhere that they are looking at all people working in those businesses right there where she was found.

I thought it was interesting since everyone was speculating at one point that he could dress that way because of him working out or being involved in a athletic type activity......and there is a tae-kwon-do place there....

a reporter did talk to a guy whom worked there at the tae-kwon-do place and I looked that guys myspace page up that the reporter was asking about the body being found....and it was private....lol......

From the reporter on tv who was relaying the press conference from his colleague inside .......it definately sounds like they have a better idea of the suspect maybe......they seem to be fairly sure about him living around UNR or the NW area, and him working around the S. Meadows area.....

They also believe he is still in the Reno area, and they are worried that he will strike again.....

Kel

[Bobbisangel]

This guy sure is guttsy. He rapes one woman in a garage where police cars are kept. Who is to say that some security cop wouldn't have walked into the garage and caught him? Sounds like he likes being on the edge...the excitement of it. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't live around where the body was dumped. LE haven't caught him yet and even if they have his DNA they don't have a name to go with it and he knows that. Why not dump her at night somewhere around his home. That way he might be able to see the cop cars, etc all around her when she was found. Sounds to me like he is a risk taker.

If they think the body had only been there for a week do they think she was dead but somewhere else until then or alive until then? I hope he hadn't held her somewhere for 3 weeks and then murdered her. What she would have gone through is to horrible to think about.

This guy is esculating...no doubt about it. Now he has a feel for murder. Will that make him want to murder more or will he be horrified that it went that far?

[LionRun]

Hi Bobbisangel. The report didn't state that her body was there for only a week. Instead they said that her body was there for at least one week. Considering that that statement was made less then 24 hours after she was found and just after the initial autopsy, they may be currently researching to get a more accurate date of death. With the freezing, snowfalls, and non-freezing but cold temperatures the date of death will likely take time to more accurately estimate.

He is gutsy, though. That's for sure. He walked right into an apartment and abducted Brianna among other things. He is bold. And with excess boldness comes mistakes. He's left his DNA behind already.

Lion

[SuziQ]

The November vic was at 5PM in the parking lot of her apartment building. That's pretty risky right there. Especially with everyone coming home from work or school like she was. The way he abducted Brianna was pretty risky as well. He is a risk taker.

[LionRun]

Huge risk taker, and I imagine that was factored in if LE had a psych profile done on him. Because he is such a risk taker, the attacks are relatively close in time (about 1 or so months apart), and because the attacks seem to be escalating in violence, I can understand why LE is concerned that he will strike again. I think he will strike again, and just hope that LE catches him before he has the chance.

Lion

[Leila]

This guy sure is guttsy. He rapes one woman in a garage where police cars are kept. Who is to say that some security cop wouldn't have walked into the garage and caught him? Sounds like he likes being on the edge...the excitement of it. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't live around where the body was dumped. LE haven't caught him yet and even if they have his DNA they don't have a name to go with it and he knows that. Why not dump her at night somewhere around his home. That way he might be able to see the cop cars, etc all around her when she was found. Sounds to me like he is a risk taker.

If they think the body had only been there for a week do they think she was dead but somewhere else until then or alive until then? I hope he hadn't held her somewhere for 3 weeks and then murdered her. What she would have gone through is to horrible to think about.

This guy is esculating...no doubt about it. Now he has a feel for murder. Will that make him want to murder more or will he be horrified that it went that far?

I hope young ladies in Reno are scared enough to take precautions and are mindful of their safety. They need to lock their apartment doors; lock their car doors; walk with two or more people instead of alone; etc. I hope parents and teachers are talking about this with their students.

[dimples37398]

Good Morning from Belgium.....

I have been reading so much on this case I think I was dreaming about it last night......ugh.....

I had a dream that they said the blood on the pillow was from her biting her tongue, or something.......I know, that is sad when you are so involved in a case you dream about it everynight......whew.

Anyways I hope everyone has a good morning and good day, and we have some shopping to do but will be back probably by noon yalls time.

Kel

[10EC_Dad]

I just don't think this guy would dump her anywhere near his work or home. I don't know why LE would theorize this, but to me it doesn't make sense. He is going to distance himself from her body instead of put her in his backyard, so to speak.

I completely agree. It is possible that he did not plan on killing her nor did he have a place picked to dispose her body. It seems like many disposals are in a more remote area. This place seems to be as remote as he could get in a paniced state of mind.

[paddy01]

So does that tell us anything about him? Does it take medical knowledge to know how long that's safe to do????

Maybe has military back ground, my SIL in Marine Corp. There is this
specific move "Seven second strangle hold," it renders you literally
unconscious in 7 seven seconds. You put pressure on Carotid artery.

[SeriouslySearching]

Dimples, it certainly is a possibility she bit her cheek, lip, or tongue. If he had his hand over her mouth and nose...she would be fighting to breathe. He may have been so forceful that her teeth caused a tear to the inside of her mouth.

When you are strangled, you can also bleed tho. (IIRC what Dr. Baden was saying.)

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe has military back ground, my SIL in Marine Corp. There is this
specific move "Seven second strangle hold," it renders you literally
unconscious in 7 seven seconds. You put pressure on Carotid artery.That is interesting! :eek: This would explain how the other girl was out then came to a few seconds later. You guys were talking about this earlier and I was thinking while reading it that you could be right. Military or LE. (Both have MA training)

[paddy01]

That is interesting! :eek: This would explain how the other girl was out then came to a few seconds later.

SS, went to bed thinking about Brianna, got back up & I phoned SIL around 11:30 PM last night to make sure I had correct information. I remember him & his buddies goofing around few years ago showing our family how it's done. Trust me it works. Are there any military bases in Reno?

[SeriouslySearching]

The Reno/Tahoe IAP, Nevada Air National Guard, 152nd Airlift Wing is located at the Reno/Tahoe International Airport (RTIA) in Reno, Nevada. The base is located on the southwest side of RTIA on a 60 acre parcel.
~snip~
Day-to-day activities are managed by a force of 250 full-time personnel. One weekend per month this population swells to more than 1100 members during military training assemblies. The base has no residential or transient housing facilities.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/reno-tahoe.htm

[paddy01]

Also just went searching there is a Army guard training facility "Stead Training Army Guard" 13 miles North of Reno NV.

[paddy01]

The Reno/Tahoe IAP, Nevada Air National Guard, 152nd Airlift Wing is located at the Reno/Tahoe International Airport (RTIA) in Reno, Nevada. The base is located on the southwest side of RTIA on a 60 acre parcel.
~snip~
Day-to-day activities are managed by a force of 250 full-time personnel. One weekend per month this population swells to more than 1100 members during military training assemblies. The base has no residential or transient housing facilities.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/reno-tahoe.htm

SS, I think we are talking about same facility. We must have been
doing search same time! I googled it. Really new at this I need some
of your techniques!

[paddy01]

The Reno/Tahoe IAP, Nevada Air National Guard, 152nd Airlift Wing is located at the Reno/Tahoe International Airport (RTIA) in Reno, Nevada. The base is located on the southwest side of RTIA on a 60 acre parcel.
~snip~
Day-to-day activities are managed by a force of 250 full-time personnel. One weekend per month this population swells to more than 1100 members during military training assemblies. The base has no residential or transient housing facilities.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/reno-tahoe.htm

Also look for companies & angencies who hire persons fresh out of military.
Could be postal workers, LE, Fedex, or UPS. A lot of his friends have taken
jobs after getting out of military, which offer good retirement, so they get two retirement checks later in life.

[SeriouslySearching]

LOL No techniques needed! I just put in Military Bases in Reno NV. :)

[paddy01]

LOL No techniques needed! I just put in Military Bases in Reno NV. :)

I may have accidentally stumbled a upon something in my google search
most of the military guys stay at Super 8, which when putting in address
of Super 8 to 1395 Mackay Court is 2 miles & 7 minute drive from house where Brianna was taken. Sound far fetched?

[SeriouslySearching]

Doesn't sound far fetched at all! Good find! I hope LE is considering this possibility, too.

[dannyodie]

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4301456&page=1

appears her body has been found, if this has already been posted sorry for the ditto. what a tragic end to a beautiful young lady

[paddy01]

Doesn't sound far fetched at all! Good find! I hope LE is considering this possibility, too.

BTW, also guys in military get a lot of Fridays off, if I recall correctly weren't some of these crimes committed on Fridays? My SIL is in AirWing Cobra Helicopters Gunnery Seargent at Camp Pendleton in California, also works swing shift a lot times, night crew, not a lot of supervision.

[dannyodie]

you know, I feel this might be a current or ex security gaurd at campus, maybe they should start taking a look at some of those guys?

[paddy01]

you know, I feel this might be a current or ex security gaurd at campus, maybe they should start taking a look at some of those guys?

That's an good thought, quite possible. Reason I went with military is
because of that specific move of rendering someone unconscious in 7 seconds, still think theres military background though, IMO

[SeriouslySearching]

The Dec. 16th attack was on a Sunday. The Nov. 13th attack was on a Tuesday. The Oct. 22nd attack in the parking garage (which I do not think is related) was on a Monday. Brianna went missing on Jan. 20th which was a Sunday.

[SeriouslySearching]

Since the attack happened near where security parks their cars, I am sure that LE has looked within the campus employees (security etc.) for the perp they have a sketch of. I don't think there is ANY connection to Brianna's case or the other two cases. This means there are two rapists they need to search for.

[guestwriter]

It's her blood on the pillow that I'm interesting in since her COD was strangulation. I wonder what he did to her at the house to cause her to bleed?

I had read somewhere that she had an earring on the side of her nose or something like that ..If he covered her mouth and nose it may have caused the earring area to bleed. I also had read that he more then likely carried her out the back door of the kitchen cause the blanket she was using was on the kitchen floor. This guy knew the apt and the area I feel. He had to be strong to carry her, keep her quiet at the same time and carry that 2 ft stuffed animal. the LE say this was a Sexually Motivated Crime, does this mean they have evidence that she may have been choked in the commission of a sex act.....THere are tons of leads they will catch this guy and VERY SOON......

[MCDRAW]

Since the attack happened near where security parks their cars, I am sure that LE has looked within the campus employees (security etc.) for the perp they have a sketch of. I don't think there is ANY connection to Brianna's case or the other two cases. This means there are two rapists they need to search for.


I thought they had DNA that connected them??

[guestwriter]

I may have accidentally stumbled a upon something in my google search
most of the military guys stay at Super 8, which when putting in address
of Super 8 to 1395 Mackay Court is 2 miles & 7 minute drive from house where Brianna was taken. Sound far fetched?

No it is not far fetched. I kept seeing a number 6 in my meditations and asked LE if there was a Motel 6 around the area to check it out...so your vibes may be right on....

[SeriouslySearching]

I think she may have been found nude or partially nude with significant signs of a rape having occurred for them to term it so quickly (with the autopsy results confirming it). They did say he was strong.

The nose ring could be responsible for the blood. After the autopsy, they know now where the blood came from. I wish they would release that information. I don't see the value of them keeping that under wraps for the investigation.

[SeriouslySearching]

I thought they had DNA that connected them??They only have connected the Nov. and Dec. attacks to Brianna's with DNA. (The attempted burglary on the Dec. victim's home was also linked with DNA.)

[guestwriter]

I don't think they are close to an arrest at all. They wouldn't still be using that sketch and giving out a description which obviously doesn't match the sketch whatsoever!!
They could be using the sketch to get the perp to feel safe cause it doesn't resemble him...so as to set him up to try again and this time they will catch him...and on the other hand there could definitely be 2 of them...confuse the perp...so he makes a big mistake...he will try again..

[SeriouslySearching]

Timeline of events:

— Jan. 31, Reno police say a UNR student reported she was raped in a campus parking garage Oct. 22. Police said the cases have similar characteristics, but the October case has not been connected to the others.

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20080216/NEWS01/288547674

[SeriouslySearching]

They could be using the sketch to get the perp to feel safe cause it doesn't resemble him...so as to set him up to try again and this time they will catch him...and on the other hand there could definitely be 2 of them...confuse the perp...so he makes a big mistake...he will try again..I suppose it is possible that is what they are doing...because it hasn't made any sense to me to derail the investigation with the sketch of the wrong man. So are they parading decoys in the area at night to try to draw this guy out?

I have noticed lately they are not showing the sketch like they were. Maybe they have figured out it was a huge mistake on their part! I hope so!!

[paddy01]

No it is not far fetched. I kept seeing a number 6 in my meditations and asked LE if there was a Motel 6 around the area to check it out...so your vibes may be right on....

BTW, gave SIL description of clothing "perp" was wearing at time of
attacks, said he wears same type clothing while doing running exercises,
PT training. All his guys do.

[paddy01]

They could be using the sketch to get the perp to feel safe cause it doesn't resemble him...so as to set him up to try again and this time they will catch him...and on the other hand there could definitely be 2 of them...confuse the perp...so he makes a big mistake...he will try again..

Excellent thought, on making him feel safe. But also think SS might be
right about 2. I think he will try again also, makes me sick.

[SeriouslySearching]

They do their training on weekends so the early Sunday morning time frame of the attacks would be within that range. However, the attack on Tuesday would be the odd one.

The perp coming back to try to break into the Dec. victim's home was done on Sat. Jan 19th...the day before Brianna went missing. So he was free to move about in the wee hours both nights.

The victim in the Dec. 17 case also was the victim of an attempted burglary Jan. 19 at her residence in the 1400 block of N. Virginia St., about five blocks from where Denison was taken.
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080127/NEWS18/80127018&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[teacherbonnie]

SS and paddy...Yes! Why was I thinking medical when military makes much more sense!

I, too, find the LE profiling interesting and I'll assume they know what they're talking about even though it doesn't make sense to me. How do they make the assumption of where he lives and works?

How long is the post on a nose ring? If he pinched her nose shut that could easily cause plenty of blood.

[SeriouslySearching]

Here is a great listing of related links to Brianna's case:

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/SPECIAL30/80122019/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON&template=theme

[SeriouslySearching]

SS and paddy...Yes! Why was I thinking medical when military makes much more sense!

I, too, find the LE profiling interesting and I'll assume they know what they're talking about even though it doesn't make sense to me. How do they make the assumption of where he lives and works?

How long is the post on a nose ring? If he pinched her nose shut that could easily cause plenty of blood.Actually, a nose ring has a cork screw type post so it doesn't poke the inside. I don't see this causing that kind of bleeding, but maybe.

I think if you drew a triangle from where the attacks occurred to where her body was found...Sparks would be a logical place for him to live. From where the body was...you can easily take Longley Lane to McCarren Blvd. (650) into Sparks.

[paddy01]

Actually, a nose ring has a cork screw type post so it doesn't poke the inside. I don't see this causing that kind of bleeding, but maybe.

I think if you drew a triangle from where the attacks occurred to where her body was found...Sparks would be a logical place for him to live. From where the body was...you can easily take Longley Lane to McCarren Blvd. (650) into Sparks.

Super 8 address where most military stay is 1651 Virginia Street, didn't one of the attacks occur on Virginia street? Or have I got my addresses mixed up? 2 miles & 7 minute drive time from 1395 Mackay court.

[SuziQ]

The below link is what a nose ring look like. I would think it would bleed if pinched.

http://www.freshtrends.com/cgi-bin/category/Diamond-Nose-Rings

[SuziQ]

Good map

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=114943749473014216758.000444e3192263dfcb1ea&ll=39.50563,-119.796295&spn=0.158937,0.205994&z=11&source=embed

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think it really matters since they know already from the autopsy where the blood came from. I do wish they would just tell us!

[SeriouslySearching]

Did we know that Brianna ate at Mel's Diner inside the Sands before returning home?! I don't recall hearing that tid bit before.

After attending a rap concert as part of a snowboarding event, Brianna Denison ate at Mel's Diner inside the Sands Regency before going back to the MacKay Court home.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=114943749473014216758.000444e3192263dfcb1ea&ll=39.50563,-119.796295&spn=0.158937,0.205994&z=11&source=embed

[SuziQ]

I wonder where the teddy bear is?

[dannyodie]

Since the attack happened near where security parks their cars, I am sure that LE has looked within the campus employees (security etc.) for the perp they have a sketch of. I don't think there is ANY connection to Brianna's case or the other two cases. This means there are two rapists they need to search for.

I would say this is a serial rapist," Reno Police Deputy Chief Jim Johns said. "We have two, probably three (cases) linked through DNA.

it might appear that the police have compared dna to the others and probably feel it is the same dna profile which might point to a single rapist. if le have looked at other campus employees, such as security gaurds and so on, they might not say that they feel it is possible it is so as not to compremise the investigation, it is either a campus employee or a student that goes there. none the less, this person lives close to the area. I wonder if the other students that were raped lived in rental homes as well? going on speculation, I would wonder if the same land lord owns more then one home in that area that is rented to students. just seems odd that the person gained access to the place where brianna was staying without breaking in? or did he? was the blood on the pillow hers for sure? I may have missed some of the details, but was that blood tested to see if it was hers, or could she have bitten the person when he put a hand over her mouth? to render someone unconcious quickly wouldn't be hard to do if you know the correct method, seems like there are certain nerve clusters in the area where the neck and shoulder meet, if the correct location is compressed with two fingers tight enough it could render one unconcious temporarly, the report said something about her body was there for more then 1 week? I just wonder just how long she was there? could she have been held somewhere and repeatly raped for a week then dumped there? I am a ex army soilder and my training didn't involve rendering a person unconcious, but I am certain military police personel would receive that training as would civilian police, as well as a medical grad student would have that knowledge too. maybe this perp has been in jail and has recently been released and is now reoffending? if that was possible then le could be checking a dna data base to see if a match can be found? I feel they eventually will catch him, but I sure hope that the girls at campus keep there doors lo