Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #5

[chicoliving]

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[aj1020]

Thanks chico!

[adnoid]

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Hey Chico - help me out here. What is the reason for splitting up threads?

[chicoliving]

Hey Chico - help me out here. What is the reason for splitting up threads?

They just get too long. Makes the mods job harder to use the little controls.
I know its a pain. Want a forum to thread out some subjects??

[Leila]

I found the following at another site without a link, so I searched it and found the original author and the entire article. I'm bringing it here as I feel it's extremely relevant to this case. The author is Daniel Collazzi, a forensic biologist:

Violent offenders who rape their victims fall into different categories. These are different types of rapists, who rape for different reasons and do it in different ways. Nonetheless, they are all monsters. Profiles created for each kind of rapist can be used to track down and punished the different types of rapists accordingly.

The Power Reassurance Rapist is the most common type of rapist. He usually will carry a weapon or claim to be, but will not use it or use any more force than necessary to fulfill his fantasy. He wants to express his power through sex, not physical injury. This offender spends an extended period of time with the victim, may compliment her appearance, and may even apologize for what he has just done to her.


The Power Assertive Rapist is primarily concerned with showing how "manly" he is through extreme violence. Unlike the Power Reassurance Rapist, this one is not concerned with the extent of suffering of the victim and usually uses more force than necessary to subdue her.


The Anger Retaliatory Rapist is even more violent. He has a deep hatred towards women and so lashes out against them. Many of his victims require hospitalization.


The Anger Excitation Rapist or sexual sadist is sexually stimulated by the amount of suffering his victim endures. He is the most dangerous type of rapist.

The Opportunistic Rapist will rape someone during another crime taking place, for instance, a robbery or kidnapping. He does not spend very much time with the victim and is usually either high or drunk during the ordeal.

http://www.bxscience.edu/publication...s/f-psyc01.htm (http://www.bxscience.edu/publications/forensics/articles/psychologicalprofiles/f-psyc01.htm)

There's a lot more at the link on criminal behavior. The portion above is only a small snip of the article - the portion that deals with rapists.

[LionRun]

The temperatures and temperature changes along with the various snowfalls likely made it more challenging to determine an accurate date of death. The report stating that Brianna's body was in the field for more than a week was released less than 24 hours following her discovery. Due to the freezing weather, snowfalls, and variances in temperature the forensics specialists would probably have needed more time to discern just how long her body may have been there for and to estimate a more accurate date of death. Chances are that by now they have a more accurate estimate for her date of death, but I heard in a recent report they are not releasing it.

Lion
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[adnoid]

They just get too long. Makes the mods job harder to use the little controls.
I know its a pain. Want a forum to thread out some subjects??

Ah, OK. I didn't think of the moderator controls being an issue. I've got my preferences set to show 40 posts per page & I've got a fast connection, and no matter how long a thread is I don't have any trouble. But I'm not a moderator - which is, I'm sure, a very good thing.

Carry on!

[chicoliving]

Not necessarily, let's talk :)

[Leila]

The temperatures and temperature changes along with the various snowfalls likely made it more challenging to determine an accurate date of death. The report stating that Brianna's body was in the field for more than a week was released less than 24 hours following her discovery. Due to the freezing weather, snowfalls, and variances in temperature the forensics specialists would probably have needed more time to discern just how long her body may have been there for and to estimate a more accurate date of death. Chances are that by now they have a more accurate estimate for her date of death, but I heard in a recent report they are not releasing it.

Lion
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We need Dr. Baden on this. I hope Greta will devote some time to this case tonight and perhaps have Dr. Baden on to explain the forces of nature, when it comes to determining death when snow and cold temperatures are involved.

[LionRun]

Yes, that would be great, leila:). It would be much simpler if the temperature and humidity levels were constant in this case. And, in Reno for the last few weeks the conditions would make it even more challenging than in many areas throughout the country to estimate the date of death.

Lion

[StillHoping]

The temperatures and temperature changes along with the various snowfalls likely made it more challenging to determine an accurate date of death. The report stating that Brianna's body was in the field for more than a week was released less than 24 hours following her discovery. Due to the freezing weather, snowfalls, and variances in temperature the forensics specialists would probably have needed more time to discern just how long her body may have been there for and to estimate a more accurate date of death. Chances are that by now they have a more accurate estimate for her date of death, but I heard in a recent report they are not releasing it.

Lion

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I agree with your logic on this, but I was thinking maybe the amount of snow on top of Brianna helped determine how long she had been there. But I also think maybe it helped slow down decomp. :confused:

[Ca-Sun]

But I'm not a moderator - which is, I'm sure, a very good thing.

I have to disagree with you on this issue, Adnoid. :)

[LionRun]

I have to disagree with you on this issue, Adnoid. :)

What she said:D. Adnoid, I think you would make a great mod! I agree with Ca-Sun.

Lion

[adnoid]

Not necessarily, let's talk :)

:eek:

[chicoliving]

LOL no eeking allowed!

[LionRun]

I agree with your logic on this, but I was thinking maybe the amount of snow on top of Brianna helped determine how long she had been there. But I also think maybe it helped slow down decomp. :confused:

One good aspect of the colder temperatures is that her body may have been preserved enough to more accurately determine cause of death and to perhaps discover any other injuries to her body that may be helpful in a trial later.

There are many variables. There were several snowfalls and temperature variances, which, "changes the equations" used to estimate a date of death. Then the forensics specialist(s) must also determine for how long her body might have been fully enveloped in snow--if it ever was fully enveloped. Cold slows down decomposition, and even if her body was kept cold at a fairly consistent temperature some work estimating the date of death would be needed.

The reason I posted my previous posts about the date of death and that she had been there for more than a week is because with just a couple of words inadvertently changed from what was actually reported people begin to believe that Brianna's body was, "only there for one week" as opposed to, "her body had been there for more than one week." Chances are greatest that the murderer killed her shortly after he abducted her. It is possible that he kept her alive for a period of time, but it is less likely.

Lion

[Leila]

There were a few very good points made on Thread #4..........

One in particular stands out to me. A poster mentioned that the murderer could have left Brianna in other places that would have been far less obvious. Leaving her in a public place is equal to wanting her to be found.

If the perp had driven an extra 15 or 20 minutes or so, he could have found a place to dispose of Brianna where she wouldn't have been found for months or possibly years.

So we might conclude that the perp intentionally put Brianna where he knew she'd be found. He may be enjoying watching all this from his television set or from a computer. Think in terms of an arsonist - they set a fire and then often stay in the area to watch the fire engines come and battle the fire. This may be a "catch me if you can" game to him.

[LionRun]

I read that her body was discovered about 100 feet in from the road. I fully believe that if he wanted her to be found he would have left her right smack by the road or in another location where she would have almost definitely been found quickly. I think he dumped her just enough out of the way so as to distance himself in time from her discovery and geographically--to a point.

Some of these killers don't realise that geographic profilers can map the approximate area in which they live based on where the victim was attacked/abducted and where the victim was dumped/buried. And, with each victim and/or dump/burial site the more information he is giving to these profilers.

Lion

[LionRun]

I don't really see where he seems to be playing a game. This might change, for example if we learn that poor Brianna's body was posed, or if he begins to write letters or call LE, the family or the media. I think his attacks stem from him having anti-social personality disorder (aka sociopath) and a twisted obsession to dominate, rape and possibly kill. I could be mistaken, but this is what I see.

Lion

[Taximom]

Nancy Grace will be covering this case again tonight. (FYI)

[philamena]

Taximom,
Thanks for the heads up.

[FireGurl26]

Hi. I have been working on the Stacy Peterson forum. I wanted to know, since I am new here, do you take psychic leads here or elsewhere in this forum? I have a person of interest that I sent to LE in Nevada about Brianna Denison's murderer. Can I post a person of interest on this thread?

[Taximom]

You're very welcome, philamena!

Welcome, firegurl26. chicoliving is a mod that is apparently online at the moment. You could try pming and see what they say about naming a POI here before it's on the news or anything.... Good luck!

[FireGurl26]

Thank you Taximom. I think I will just read on since maybe naming someone wouldn't be such a good idea if that person is possibly the one. I dunno what I was thinking..lol.

[Taximom]

Maybe you could tell us what makes you think this person is a POI. **wink** Without too many details that might give the POI away? lol

[panthera]

There were a few very good points made on Thread #4..........

One in particular stands out to me. A poster mentioned that the murderer could have left Brianna in other places that would have been far less obvious. Leaving her in a public place is equal to wanting her to be found.

If the perp had driven an extra 15 or 20 minutes or so, he could have found a place to dispose of Brianna where she wouldn't have been found for months or possibly years.

So we might conclude that the perp intentionally put Brianna where he knew she'd be found. He may be enjoying watching all this from his television set or from a computer. Think in terms of an arsonist - they set a fire and then often stay in the area to watch the fire engines come and battle the fire. This may be a "catch me if you can" game to him.
I think this theory of leaving her where she'd be found goes along with what he did with the Dec. 16 victim ~ he took her back to her house! It could be too that he didn't intend to kill her. The only thing with Brianna is if she was there all the time or he moved her to that field recently. I tend to think she was there, just buried under the snow. I still think it's possible too that he works near there.

[Leila]

I think this theory of leaving her where she'd be found goes along with what he did with the Dec. 16 victim ~ he took her back to her house! It could be too that he didn't intend to kill her. The only thing with Brianna is if she was there all the time or he moved her to that field recently. I tend to think she was there, just buried under the snow. I still think it's possible too that he works near there.

I agree..........I think it's more than likely that she's been there since shortly after she was kidnapped. When you look at a calendar of the weather for the Reno area, they've had snow and cold temperatures ever since January 20th. It was only this past week or so that it's warmed up enough to melt most of the recent snow.

I also think he might work in that area and be familiar with the surroundings. He may also want to keep watch over that area to see when she's found.

[LionRun]

Nancy Grace will be covering this case again tonight. (FYI)

Thank you Taxi:blowkiss:.

Lion

[chicoliving]

Hi. I have been working on the Stacy Peterson forum. I wanted to know, since I am new here, do you take psychic leads here or elsewhere in this forum? I have a person of interest that I sent to LE in Nevada about Brianna Denison's murderer. Can I post a person of interest on this thread?

Hi and Welcome to WS! No, we don't take psychic leads or have an area specific to psychics. If a person is named a person of interest or a suspect then their names can be mentioned and discussed. If the name is part of a tip sent to LE then its best to not put that name out there. LE checks out tips not us although if someone thinks they have a tip we will suggest getting that info to the proper authorities.

[Leila]

There's a new article posted at the RGJ site with some new information. In the article it states that some people who tipsters have referred them to as being suspicious have been checked, some voluntarily giving DNA samples. So it looks like people are calling LE with tips on suspicious persons and they're being checked out. Here's one brief snip form the article:

Detectives have been speaking with those referred by tipsters who said they were suspicious, and have gotten voluntary DNA samples from some.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[LionRun]

Thank you Leila:). I'm glad to hear this, and I hope that someone who knows the actual rapist murderer reports him. For all we know, the killer has been turned in based on a tipster, and all they need to do is wait for the results of the DNA to come back. Now that would be good!

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

Thank you Leila:). I'm glad to hear this, and I hope that someone who knows the actual rapist murderer reports him. For all we know, the killer has been turned in based on a tipster, and all they need to do is wait for the results of the DNA to come back. Now that would be good!

LionOr maybe by several tipsters...which would be better! :)

[SuziQ]

I think this guy did want Brianna to be found. There are plenty of second story windows to assume someone would have seen her there. Why that didn't happen a couple of days before when the snow melted is beyond me. IMO, there are alot of windows facing that field.

IMO, this guy feels no anxiety. That charactaristic is what enables people to be risk takers. This guy is whatever you want to call him, bold or risky. He's certainly not afraid of a body being found and may in fact enjoy it.

[panthera]

There's a new article posted at the RGJ site with some new information. In the article it states that some people who tipsters have referred them to as being suspicious have been checked, some voluntarily giving DNA samples. So it looks like people are calling LE with tips on suspicious persons and they're being checked out. Here's one brief snip form the article:

Detectives have been speaking with those referred by tipsters who said they were suspicious, and have gotten voluntary DNA samples from some.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews
Thank you Leila for posting that. It's good that the community is supporting the effort to find this guy with those who aren't guilty voluntarily giving DNA to exclude themselves.

[panthera]

I think this guy did want Brianna to be found. There are plenty of second story windows to assume someone would have seen her there. Why that didn't happen a couple of days before when the snow melted is beyond me. IMO, there are alot of windows facing that field.

IMO, this guy feels no anxiety. That charactaristic is what enables people to be risk takers. This guy is whatever you want to call him, bold or risky. He's certainly not afraid of a body being found and may in fact enjoy it.
I too noticed in one of Adnoid's photos one building across the field that was a multi-story, but maybe she was too far away for the people inside to see through the tall grass. He sure did have a lot of other places in the Reno area to have left her other than just 100ft. from the road.

[adnoid]

...There are plenty of second story windows to assume someone would have seen her there. Why that didn't happen a couple of days before when the snow melted is beyond me. IMO, there are alot of windows facing that field...

Easy enough to check out - I'll see if I can get back down there.

The closest building, I recall, has no windows on the side that faces the field.

[SuziQ]

I too noticed in one of Adnoid's photos one building across the field that was a multi-story, but maybe she was too far away for the people inside to see through the tall grass. He sure did have a lot of other places in the Reno area to have left her other than just 100ft. from the road.

And placing her 100 ft from the road put her even closer to the buildings. The area I live in now is alot like Reno. For ten years I worked on the second floor of the same type of offices and area in Adnoid's pics. I think snow would have been the only thing that would have prevented me from seeing a body. IMO, someone from the buildings would have seen her sooner or later.

[SuziQ]

Easy enough to check out - I'll see if I can get back down there.

The closes building, I recall, has no windows on the side that faces the field.

You are great Adnoid!

[SeriouslySearching]

Exactly.

When faced with a situation that they do not understand, people tend to react in one of two ways.

Reaction #1: (And this is the group I am in) When faced with a situation they don't understand will look at the people working on the problem with the assumption that they are honest and competent, and know what they are doing. When the people working the problem do, or fail to do, something we feel should be done or not done, we look at this as an opportunity to deepen our understanding of their actions. Therefore we grow our knowledge and gain an understanding of the actions of others.

Reaction #2: If they are not doing it the way I would they are idiots.

We, in the general public, are not "owed" a full disclosure of the results of these investigations. There are good reasons for keeping discovered evidence quiet. There are good reasons to make it appear an investigation is going one way, when in reality there is something else going on behind closed doors. I have never been in LE, I have never investigated a crime, and I have to assume that when I don't understand a particular action of LE that it's a limitation of my own knowledge and background, not that LE doesn't know what they are doing.

But that's just me.I do understand what they are doing and not doing. My family has worked in LE for many years. I realize what goes on behind those closed doors, in their meetings, in their interviews, and in their files. I also very much understand what they release to the public and why they release it. I get the games they try to play with the perp. I am fully aware there are some things they will keep inside an investigation that only the perp will know for verification. I feel they did not handle certain aspects of this particular investigation well. The FACT is...they didn't!!

I DO know they did not run the DNA against the other rape case for a match until after Brianna went missing. They said so. I DO know that they did not reinterview the girl until after Brianna went missing. They said so. Dad said there is not sufficient evidence to warrant me speaking out? What about those two facts alone?! This girl did not have to be abducted or to die if only they had worked the other two cases and caught the perp or brought the cases to the forefront to warn potential victims in the area. I have a right to my opinion on LE.

Originally Posted by adnoid
Well, you know, I've heard this line before...
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/SPECIAL08/80218022

You did not just compare me to those people, did you?

[panthera]

Nancy Grace is talking about Brianna. :) She said the man who found Brianna regularly goes for a walk at lunchtime through the field. Now that the snow melted, he walked through there and saw her.

[SuziQ]

Nancy Grace is talking about Brianna. :)

Keep us posted!

[SeriouslySearching]

Interesting, the family spokesperson let it slip that the second victim was kept for 3 hours before being returned.

[panthera]

Reporter from Reno Gazette Journal saying LE has not released whether it was manual or ligature strangulation or if Brianna was clothed or not. They're showing video of the area and LE at the scene from Friday. Jennifer Bushman, Denison family spokesperson is being interviewed by Nancy, saying they held out hope and if anyone was going to survive it was Brie. She was majoring in child psychology and would've tried to talk herself out of the situation. Talking now with a criminal profiler about the Dec. 16 victim and why he returned her to her house. She says that maybe he didn't have the nerve (paraphrased) to kill that victim but now has escalated to killing.

[SeriouslySearching]

Hahahahaha! NG just made my point about if the DNA had been done in a timely fashion...that Brianna might still be alive!

[panthera]

Caller to Nancy asking about the DNA samples and the backlog. Split screen showing more video of the field and surrounding area. Nancy asking if DNA had been processed earlier if the perp would've been caught before Brianna was abducted. Reporter saying backlog of 3,000 on Jan. 20, no funding. Business leaders, politicians, etc. contributed to the private funding to clear up the backlog. Initiated by RPD CSI.

[panthera]

Hahahahaha! NG just made my point about if the DNA had been done in a timely fashion...that Brianna might still be alive!
She sure is! :clap: She's also stressing how this guy attacked once a month maybe dating back to October.

[Leila]

Nancy in interviewing someone with the RGJ about the backlog in DNA testing.

Jackie ????? from the RGJ said that a new law was enacted in October 2007 to obtain and have on file the DNA from all sex offenders. But, this law was not funded, and created a backlog in the labs.

[SeriouslySearching]

The backlog was only part of the problem tho.

[bigbuck]

SeriouslySearchingHahahahaha! NG just made my point about if the DNA had been done in a timely fashion...that Brianna might still be alive!

She sure is! :clap: She's also stressing how this guy attacked once a month maybe dating back to October.

Hmmm SS, isn't this what some of us have been saying and, been bashed for since thread #1.

[panthera]

Reporter from RGJ said the teddy bear hasn't been found.

[panthera]

John Zunino, Brianna's uncle, being interviewed by Nancy. He believes this could've been avoided if the DNA had been tested after the first attack.

[bigbuck]

I'm (http://I'm) sure Reno LE has many dedicated hard working men and women in that department. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that mistakes were made BEFORE the perp ever got to Brianna.

:eek:

[panthera]

I know SS it isn't fair. And I'm sure Reno LE has many dedicated hard working men and women in that department. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that mistakes were made BEFORE the perp ever got to Brianna.

:eek:
In fact the reporter said that the RPD initiated this private funding drive to clear up the backlog. It seems the problem first started with the legislature passing the law and no funds being made available.

[SeriouslySearching]

John Zunino, Brianna's uncle, being interviewed by Nancy. He believes this could've been avoided if the DNA had been tested after the first attack.At least, I am not the only one who thinks this way. They did drop the ball. :rolleyes:

[SeriouslySearching]

The baby shoe was for a 3yo or less according to the spokesperson for the family! (I like her! She is providing us with great details!)

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm (http://I'm) sure Reno LE has many dedicated hard working men and women in that department. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that mistakes were made BEFORE the perp ever got to Brianna.

:eek::blowkiss:

[panthera]

The baby shoe was for a 3yo or less according to the spokesperson for the family! (I like her! She is providing us with great details!)
Someone has to know who this guy is! There are just too many clues the Taiwanese victim gave LE!

[bigbuck]

In fact the reporter said that the RPD initiated this private funding drive to clear up the backlog. It seems the problem first started with the legislature passing the law and no funds being made available.

Do we know if LE even thought to compare DNA from the earlier attacks before Brianna was abducted? And why only after Brianna disappeared was the second victim reinterviewed and only then a good description of the perp and the vehicle released?? I guess one women being knocked out, kidnapped, forced to commit sex acts, and then threatened before she was released wasn't enough.

[SeriouslySearching]

Nancy might have been mistaken, but didn't she say that victim 2 was taken to a homelike setting? We know she was raped in the truck, but did he take her somewhere else, too?!

[SeriouslySearching]

Someone has to know who this guy is! There are just too many clues the Taiwanese victim gave LE!The information is just too sketchy as they have released it. It could fit probably quite a few men in and around Reno. It makes me wonder if she went under hypnosis if more detail would come to the surface to narrow the field. If she could only recall what was written on the typed pages or if she actually saw the truck as he drove away for a comparison...it would be so helpful.

[panthera]

Do we know if LE even thought to compare DNA from the earlier attacks before Brianna was abducted? And why only after Brianna disappeared was the second victim reinterviewed and only then a good description of the perp and the vehicle released?? I guess one women being knocked out, kidnapped, forced to commit sex acts, and then threatened before she was released wasn't enough.
We don't know and the only thing we can go by is what's being said now.

[DeltaDawn]

Let me preface here I am talking about the second vic, then Bri.

We know he returned her to her place of residence..that freaked me out right away, who lets a rapist take you home? I am wondering if he didn't take her back to her place and rape her again....and then he burglared that place on Jan 19th, why , because he thought she would be there to rape, when she wasn't there, he looked for another vic, Bri which was on the 2oth of Jan. this is someone who rapes about 1 x per month..again I say we are looking at him doing this again either this week or next.

LE needs to be very vigligant and so do women in this area of the college. And I live in PA so I don't know the vic..just profiling here.

[panthera]

The information is just too sketchy as they have released it. It could fit probably quite a few men in and around Reno. It makes me wonder if she went under hypnosis if more detail would come to the surface to narrow the field. If she could only recall what was written on the typed pages or if she actually saw the truck as he drove away for a comparison...it would be so helpful.
It's been described as dark red, but other than that maybe she didn't it, was scared or told not to look. I agree the description of the suspect is kind of vague but the truck has more detail.

[SeriouslySearching]

I heard it described as dark blue somewhere, but this is the first I have heard about red. Hmmm...

[bigbuck]

We don't know and the only thing we can go by is what's being said now.

Believe me panthera, I'm not an LE hater or basher. In fact I'm a local that came here for the Jesse Davis case. I will be 48 soon and worked security and crowd control in my younger days. I have many friends in LE in NE Ohio which I actively support but, when I feel mistakes have been made I will not turn a blind eye to them.

[SeriouslySearching]

Let me preface here I am talking about the second vic, then Bri.

We know he returned her to her place of residence..that freaked me out right away, who lets a rapist take you home? I am wondering if he didn't take her back to her place and rape her again....and then he burglared that place on Jan 19th, why , because he thought she would be there to rape, when she wasn't there, he looked for another vic, Bri which was on the 2oth of Jan. this is someone who rapes about 1 x per month..again I say we are looking at him doing this again either this week or next.

LE needs to be very vigligant and so do women in this area of the college. And I live in PA so I don't know the vic..just profiling here.I am glad they are conducting safety seminars on campus and stepping up security at the college. Those are positive steps.

It is a very scary scenario to think he could strike again within that time frame. Yes, it could happen.

It does bother me that he went back to victim #2's apt. the night before he abducted Brianna. He is very bold to try to go back to rape her again. Was he going to kill her instead? Did he realize he had made a mistake in leaving a witness? Is this the reason he killed Brianna?

Maybe he came back again to see if victim #2 was home and not finding her there...he happened to see Bri through the open doors and windows. He was already in his predatory state and seized the opportunity. Makes sense to me.

[SeriouslySearching]

Believe me panthera, I'm not an LE hater or basher. In fact I'm a local that came here for the Jesse Davis case. I will be 48 soon and worked security and crowd control in my younger days. I have many friends in LE in NE Ohio which I actively support but, when I feel mistakes have been made I will not turn a blind eye to them.I am not a hater either. OK I do bash em a bit. LOL My brother is a Deputy Sheriff, my stepson is on the local PD, my best friend is an undercover cop, my BIL was Chief Criminal Investigator for a number of years, and the list goes on from there. Most of my friends are either in Law Enforcement or are Lawyers. I talk to them the same way I would talk about the LE in these cases when I feel they are messing up. LOL At least, they don't compare me to nut jobs in Kansas and respect my opinions.

[SuziQ]

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15747547.html

No matter what police are calling the rapist. Criminal Profiler Pat Brown has a scarier term for him.
"The fact is we have serial killer, because he has not only raped but killed when he was raping. Therefore we are looking for someone who is willing to kill and if he's done it once, he'll do it again."
Brown says while the community may be afraid of the word, she sees a need to call the criminal in the Dennison case a serial killer. (more at link)

[SeriouslySearching]

I could not agree more with Pat Brown. Call it like it is and let the public know what they are dealing with!!

[panthera]

I heard it described as dark blue somewhere, but this is the first I have heard about red. Hmmm...
I thought I saw a post of an article on the other thread that said 'dark red'. I might be mistaken though. :)

[DeltaDawn]

I am glad they are conducting safety seminars on campus and stepping up security at the college. Those are positive steps.

It is a very scary scenario to think he could strike again within that time frame. Yes, it could happen.

It does bother me that he went back to victim #2's apt. the night before he abducted Brianna. He is very bold to try to go back to rape her again. Was he going to kill her instead? Did he realize he had made a mistake in leaving a witness? Is this the reason he killed Brianna?

Maybe he came back again to see if victim #2 was home and not finding her there...he happened to see Bri through the open doors and windows. He was already in his predatory state and seized the opportunity. Makes sense to me.

Thank you SS..I totally agree!!! Just hoping young women on that campus area are vigiliant and not walking alone or thinking this can not happen to me. Doors locked, windows locked and cellphone charged and within reach. Better to be overly prepared in this situation until the perp is caught.

[Rolex]

SeriousSearching,
I do not believe adnoid was comparing you to the nut jobs from Kansas. We had a couple of local soldiers die in the war and that group came here to Reno to protest at their funeral. It was dispicable. They were carring signs "God Hates Reno" They need to be locked up as well as the rapist/killer IMO

[SuziQ]

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030&theme=

(snips)
Also, the woman kidnapped and raped in December was rendered unconscious, likely from his hand around her mouth, McDonald said. Denison was strangled.
***
Monday, police said they still believe the man who killed Brianna is still in the area.
McDonald said the suspect is familiar with both the UNR area and the Southeast Reno industrial area at Double R Boulevard and Sandhill Road where Brianna’s body was found. He could work or live in either area, or vice versa.

[panthera]

Believe me panthera, I'm not an LE hater or basher. In fact I'm a local that came here for the Jesse Davis case. I will be 48 soon and worked security and crowd control in my younger days. I have many friends in LE in NE Ohio which I actively support but, when I feel mistakes have been made I will not turn a blind eye to them.
I respect you for saying what you feel. I too see mistakes here but I've seen more with some other LE agencies on other cases, like Boulder CO comes to mind. :)

[DeltaDawn]

SeriousSearching,
I do not believe adnoid was comparing you to the nut jobs from Kansas. We had a couple of local soldiers die in the war and that group came here to Reno to protest at their funeral. It was dispicable. They were carring signs "God Hates Reno" They need to be locked up as well as the rapist/killer IMO

Evil lurkes everywhere..talk about the antichrist..well you get my drift..I won'tgo further on that one because this isn't the thread for that

[SeriouslySearching]

We had a couple of local soldiers die in the war and that group came here to Reno to protest at their funeral. It was dispicable. They were carring signs "God Hates Reno" They need to be locked up as well as the rapist/killer IMOI feel exactly the same way!! It is despicable what they do. They have been here, too. :furious:

[teacherbonnie]

Square chin with inch long hair growing under it. Aren't those the only 2 facial facts we know about the perp?

[panthera]

Square chin with inch long hair growing under it. Aren't those the only 2 facial facts we know about the perp?
That and the composite sketch.

http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7882858
(composite sketch is on left side of page)

[SeriouslySearching]

Ugh! The composite sketch is NOT from THIS suspect!

[teacherbonnie]

But I thought the victims didn't see him?

[10EC_Dad]

I think this guy did want Brianna to be found. There are plenty of second story windows to assume someone would have seen her there. Why that didn't happen a couple of days before when the snow melted is beyond me. IMO, there are alot of windows facing that field.

IMO, this guy feels no anxiety. That charactaristic is what enables people to be risk takers. This guy is whatever you want to call him, bold or risky. He's certainly not afraid of a body being found and may in fact enjoy it.

I still don't think he put her there to be found. If so, just leave her in the road.

[SuziQ]

The fact that the sketch keeps cropping up is exactly why LE should not have released it in connection with this case. People are taking that sketch literally even though there has never been a conclusive connection made. It's done much more harm than good.

[10EC_Dad]

At least, I am not the only one who thinks this way. They did drop the ball. :rolleyes:

So they would have been more successful then with the DNA then than they are now?

[SeriouslySearching]

The victims of the three which are connected by DNA did not see him clearly.

The sketch came from another victim in a parking garage at the college, but the only relation to these cases is location. They have no DNA, not the same MO at all, and they have nothing to connect this to Brianna's abduction suspect.

[Ca-Sun]

Ugh! The composite sketch is NOT from THIS suspect!It seems that sketch may, or may not be this suspect. They don't know for sure at this point.

[SeriouslySearching]

So they would have been more successful then with the DNA then than they are now?The best description came from the second rape victim...so yes.

[SeriouslySearching]

It seems that sketch may, or may not be this suspect. They don't know for sure at this point.The "MAY NOT" is the reason they should not be using it. They should have been CERTAIN before they put this sketch out in respect to Brianna's killer!

[panthera]

It seems that sketch may, or may not be this suspect. They don't know for sure at this point.
That's what I thought but then the media keeps posting it as the guy LE is looking for in the 2 assaults & Brianna's murder. :confused:

[SeriouslySearching]

That's what I thought but then the media keeps posting it as the guy LE is looking for in the 2 assaults & Brianna's murder. :confused: It is a mistake made by LE for putting it out there. :eek: They need to retract it publically and make sure people are not ONLY looking for that man. However, he DID commit an assault/rape...so they do want to find him, too.

[SuziQ]

That's what I thought but then the media keeps posting it as the guy LE is looking for in the 2 assaults & Brianna's murder. :confused:

From the beginning LE stated IIRC, that they were erring on the side of caution by releasing the sketch from October rape of which they have made no definitive connection. Originally Reno Pd and Brianna's sites had the sketch on there. Now it's gone from both.

[10EC_Dad]

The best description came from the second rape victim...so yes.

Wait, they knew no more then than they do now. How would they have been more sucessful? You are not making sense.

I hate it when this board becomes a place to prove how much smarter the posters are than the LE.

I guess everyone needs to feel important somehow.

[LionRun]

I fully agree with you 10EC_Dad. I understand that she was found 100 feet from the road. He would have left her there right on the side of the road, or he would have chosen another location where he felt comfortable dumping her where she would have more likely been found quickly. I am not sure why it is that so many think that a serial rapist/killer want to get caught or want a body to be found. According to all that I've read and listened to most of them don't. Sure once in a while a killer wants a body to be found or wants to be caught. But, I don't think that is the case for this killer.

Lion

[Ca-Sun]

That's what I thought but then the media keeps posting it as the guy LE is looking for in the 2 assaults & Brianna's murder. :confused:Perhaps LE has a reason for posting it. Just because we don't know, doesn't mean they don't. LE is keeping many details confidential - I can only guess they have reason to do so.

[panthera]

From the beginning LE stated IIRC, that they were erring on the side of caution by releasing the sketch from October rape of which they have made no definitive connection. Originally Reno Pd and Brianna's sites had the sketch on there. Now it's gone from both.
I can understand them doing that, but that information should be included in a caption with the sketch, imo.

[Ca-Sun]

I hate it when this board becomes a place to prove how much smarter the posters are than the LE.

I agree. They know, we can only guess.

[SuziQ]

Wait, they knew no more then than they do now. How would they have been more sucessful? You are not making sense.

I hate it when this board becomes a place to prove how much smarter the posters are than the LE.

I guess everyone needs to feel important somehow.

That wasn't necessary was it?

For whatever reason LE dropped the ball. I don't know whether it was neglegence or not but it happened. They had two rapes they didn't, by their admission even think about the possibility of being connected.

[SuziQ]

I can understand them doing that, but that information should be included in a caption with the sketch, imo.

I agree!

[10EC_Dad]

I fully agree with you 10EC_Dad. I understand that she was found 100 feet from the road. He would have left her there right on the side of the road, or he would have chosen another location where he felt comfortable dumping her where she would have more likely been found quickly. I am not sure why it is that so many think that a serial rapist/killer want to get caught or want a body to be found. According to all that I've read and listened to most of them don't. Sure once in a while a killer wants a body to be found or wants to be caught. But, I don't think that is the case for this killer.

Lion

I think this was a situation that was not well thought out by the perp. It looks smewhat like he was not planning on killing her. You would think he would have tried to hide her in a more secluded area if he had planned it.

[SeriouslySearching]

Wait, they knew no more then than they do now. How would they have been more sucessful? You are not making sense.

I hate it when this board becomes a place to prove how much smarter the posters are than the LE.

I guess everyone needs to feel important somehow.I am not trying to outthink LE here. I am not trying to prove how smart I am. I don't give a rat's behind how important I am to anyone. Trust me, I know how important I am to the people I love and that love me. I don't have a need for it.

My concern is that if LE had done the testing between the two rapes...they would have a connection. They would have known to go back and reinterview the victims for more information. This would have put them in a position to know they had a serial rapist already and to step up patrols, warn the public, and pursue him with that information. How does this not make sense to you?! :confused:

[MeoW333]

Do we have any maps of where Brianna was abducted from, where her body was found, and any of the other rape cases that are likely by the same man? If we can get some maps up we can geographically profile him. There is no doubt he will try to rape and kill again, as he's either killed before or just killed (with Brianna).

[Leila]

Let me preface here I am talking about the second vic, then Bri.

We know he returned her to her place of residence..that freaked me out right away, who lets a rapist take you home? I am wondering if he didn't take her back to her place and rape her again....and then he burglared that place on Jan 19th, why , because he thought she would be there to rape, when she wasn't there, he looked for another vic, Bri which was on the 2oth of Jan. this is someone who rapes about 1 x per month..again I say we are looking at him doing this again either this week or next.

LE needs to be very vigligant and so do women in this area of the college. And I live in PA so I don't know the vic..just profiling here.

I agree............the rape in November and the one in December are linked to Brianna through DNA. The November rape was around Nov. 15th; the December rape was on Dec. 17th, and Brianna was kidnapped on January 20th.

Today is the 18th of February and we're within the one-month time frame of the rapist's pattern. He could strike at any time. :eek:

[SeriouslySearching]

Do we have any maps of where Brianna was abducted from, where her body was found, and any of the other rape cases that are likely by the same man? If we can get some maps up we can geographically profile him. There is no doubt he will try to rape and kill again, as he's either killed before or just killed (with Brianna).I don't know how to show you the mapping I have done with not only the four incidents they are talking about...but I have mapped other rapes, murders, attempted rapes in the area dating back to 2003 that I could find. There are a few which have occurred along the corridor of Virginia Ave. between where Brianna was abducted and found. The most striking thing for me was the descriptions of others indicated similarities, but stopped when olive skin and Hispanic came into play.

[panthera]

I think this was a situation that was not well thought out by the perp. It looks smewhat like he was not planning on killing her. You would think he would have tried to hide her in a more secluded area if he had planned it.
I'm leaning toward that too, that he hadn't planned on killing her, and think he disposed of her there because it was convenient for him. I do agree that if he'd wanted her to be found right away he would've just dumped her at roadside, like was done with Imette St. Guillen.

[SeriouslySearching]

Do they have Neighborhood Watch programs set up in Reno?! We have those all over here. They are volunteers that are set up to go out and drive around to report all suspicious activity in the neighborhood.

[LionRun]

I think this was a situation that was not well thought out by the perp. It looks smewhat like he was not planning on killing her. You would think he would have tried to hide her in a more secluded area if he had planned it.

True, but I know of a serial killer, Roger Fain, who left two of his victims, Darlene Anderson and Sandra Dumont right near to each other in a field fairly near to his home. Fain likely planned to murder them, yet he left them in a similar type of place that Brianna was left. Then again, Brianna's killer might not be that experience at killing and dumping bodies. That sounds so awful, I know. It's just so hard to know if he meant to kill her or he just choked/asphyxiated her for too long. But, like Pat Brown said tonight on NG, he has now killed once--he will probably kill again.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

His planning will depend on when she was dumped in that field. Obviously, since LE has decided it is information only known to them and the killer...it wasn't right after she was abducted. This could mean he did plan for her to be found eventually at least. Look at the remote locations he could have taken her within minutes of abducting her. He could have driven five minutes away and dumped her body under such brush...and it may not have been found.

[SeriouslySearching]

Greta is discussing the case now on Fox.

[panthera]

Greta is discussing the case now on Fox.
And once again the reporter had to correct her on the dates of the assaults, and now I'm hearing that the man who discovered Brianna's body saw her out an office window, where Nancy's show said he took his lunchtime walk through the field. I just wish they'd get the stories straight!

[SeriouslySearching]

LOL Go Mark F! "I question this...why wasn't this connected long before Jan. 20th?!" asked Mark Furhman when talking about the previous two rape cases 4 blocks from one another. He pre-empted it with not wanting to really second guess LE. LMAO

[panthera]

LOL Go Mark F!
I'm listening (and watching :blowkiss: )!!

eta ~ that wasn't long enough! I wish he were the lead detective on this case!

[LionRun]

But, killers often dump bodies in a location that they feel comfortable doing so in--regardless of whether or not there is a huge open space just minutes away from their choice. Some plan a little better, but some don't.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

Remind me to write him a nice thank you letter and another one to Nancy. LOL I feel vindicated for my outrageous behavior here. :) I left out Brianna's uncle, too. Funny how we can all come to one conclusion and others want to believe it didn't exist or didn't warrant discussion.

[SeriouslySearching]

But, killers often dump bodies in a location that they feel comfortable doing so in--regardless of whether or not there is a huge open space just minutes away from their choice. Some plan a little better, but some don't.

LionI am beginning to think more and more that he does work or live around there. He wanted to see everything going on. He may feel "accomplished" at this point since he has not been caught and the clues could be leading the public away from him. He has an ego which is evident because he went back to victim #2's apt. He is very arrogant.

[SeriouslySearching]

And once again the reporter had to correct her on the dates of the assaults, and now I'm hearing that the man who discovered Brianna's body saw her out an office window, where Nancy's show said he took his lunchtime walk through the field. I just wish they'd get the stories straight!The man turned it into his manager before contacting LE. This could be the person who could see it after the other man pointed it out. So both stories could be correct. :)

[10EC_Dad]

I can understand them doing that, but that information should be included in a caption with the sketch, imo.

I agree with that also.

[panthera]

The man turned it into his manager before contacting LE. This could be the person who could see it after the other man pointed it out. So both stories could be correct. :)
Oh, thanks. I missed the part about the manager. :)

Have a good night everyone!

[10EC_Dad]

True, but I know of a serial killer, Roger Fain, who left two of his victims, Darlene Anderson and Sandra Dumont right near to each other in a field fairly near to his home. Fain likely planned to murder them, yet he left them in a similar type of place that Brianna was left. Then again, Brianna's killer might not be that experience at killing and dumping bodies. That sounds so awful, I know. It's just so hard to know if he meant to kill her or he just choked/asphyxiated her for too long. But, like Pat Brown said tonight on NG, he has now killed once--he will probably kill again.

Lion

The escalation will just continue.

[SeriouslySearching]

Will he change his location or his MO? Or both?! I don't see him stopping the behavior, but does this escalation make him go back into the same area and do even worse?!

[10EC_Dad]

Remind me to write him a nice thank you letter and another one to Nancy. LOL I feel vindicated for my outrageous behavior here. :) I left out Brianna's uncle, too. Funny how we can all come to one conclusion and others want to believe it didn't exist or didn't warrant discussion.

This just sounds so much like middle school playground behavior.

[LionRun]

I have the same questions that Mark F. and several people here have had. They may have made mistakes in this case. I never said that they didn't. Some things thought of as mistakes may not be mistakes. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes. I choose to focus on what can be done now, what can be learned from mistakes to help prevent future attacks, and what we can do to make a difference. What can be done in my own city and state to help prevent the same thing (no funds for DNA testing) from happening here?

That is one reason why I decided to do K9 SAR years ago. I was a victim and wanted to find a way to do something in other victims' best interests. Well, that and I love dogs and working with them. It is troubling to see so much LE fault finding. It doesn't help make positive change, and that is one of the main reasons that I'm here on websleuths. I'm sorry if I offended anyone for that is not my intention.

Lion

[10EC_Dad]

Will he change his location or his MO? Or both?! I don't see him stopping the behavior, but does this escalation make him go back into the same area and do even worse?!

He will just continue to escalate. He is out of controll. His mo will not change. The location may change but that probably depends more on the timing of his next attack. If it is soon, the location will probably change. But I agree he is very arrogant so, he may not. I hope he is just arrogant enough to get caught in his next attempt.

[LionRun]

The escalation will just continue.

I think so too. I sure hope that they catch this slime before he hurts or kills any other young women.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

This just sounds so much like middle school playground behavior. You just haven't gotten to know me well enough to know I don't hate. My "bashing" as you called it was what everyone else was thinking, too. I wasn't out of sync with the perception of other people...I was just more adamant on speaking my mind. It is what I do. I will defend my views and myself. It isn't a NEED to bash LE. It is a desire for LE to take more seriously crimes committed against women. It is problematic in this country. Unless you are a woman and have been on the other side...you don't have a clue where I am coming from.

I like you just fine and I will argue when I feel the need arises. Doesn't mean I hold any ill will towards you or anyone else that disagrees with me. I am not a mean spirited person at all. :)

[LionRun]

He sure is arrogant, bold, and twisted. His MO may change a little, but what turns him on he might continue to do. So, his MO may not change very much if at all. If there is another area somewhere in the Reno area that he feels comfortable abducting young women from he might change his abduction location in an effort not to get caught. Then again, he might be so bold and arrogant and redevelop a strong compulsion to abduct/rape and possibly kill that he might just grab a young woman from the same area.

Lion

[chicoliving]

I agree SS.

[Leviosa]

Whew!! This is great to see…that this case is generating so much…even leads! Okay I saw this person on the original "Our Fave Suspect" myspace page. He was listed as a friend of the main guy. However, when I saw this person—the loopy eye, ears, facial hair, and stature was enough for me to investigate more; then when I saw that his profile was set to 'Friends Only' I got suspicious.

Then when the sketch was released the resemblance was way too close to ignore. Anyway, if you want to you can visit: http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/ (http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/) and I've tried to put a comparison up for you to view and hopefully give your opinions on.

If there are any problems with the WordPress blog "The Thinker" one can also go to http://img402.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img402/4237/1203387936v4i.smil where the photos actually look better. CHEERS!

Let's keep the intensity up!

[adnoid]

I respect you for saying what you feel. I too see mistakes here but I've seen more with some other LE agencies on other cases, like Boulder CO comes to mind. :)

Hindsight is always 20/20.

[MeoW333]

SS, did you do the mapping online? If you did can you link us? I need to visually see it..

[KR2tonenow]

Whew!! This is great to see…that this case is generating so much…even leads! Okay I saw this person on the original "Our Fave Suspect" myspace page. He was listed as a friend of the main guy. However, when I saw this person—the loopy eye, ears, facial hair, and stature was enough for me to investigate more; then when I saw that his profile was set to 'Friends Only' I got suspicious.

Then when the sketch was released the resemblance was way too close to ignore. Anyway, if you want to you can visit: http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/ (http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/) and I've tried to put a comparison up for you to view and hopefully give your opinions on.

If there are any problems with the WordPress blog "The Thinker" one can also go to http://img402.imageshack.us/slideshow/done.php (http://img402.imageshack.us/slideshow/done.php) where the photos actually look better. CHEERS!

Let's keep the intensity up!

I'd say its a pretty good match!

[SieSie]

So sad to hear the news that they found Brianna's body. I'm glad for the family to finally have some answers and so that they can give her a proper final resting place, but sad that it turned out that he killed her. I hope they catch this serial-raping killer before he strikes again. My prayers for Brianna's friends and family. May she rest in peace.

[adnoid]

I think this was a situation that was not well thought out by the perp. It looks smewhat like he was not planning on killing her. You would think he would have tried to hide her in a more secluded area if he had planned it.

I've come to the same conclusion - if he wanted her to be found he could have left the body out in the open, if he wanted to hide her a little research would have found a much better place.

[KR2tonenow]

I found the following at another site without a link, so I searched it and found the original author and the entire article. I'm bringing it here as I feel it's extremely relevant to this case. The author is Daniel Collazzi, a forensic biologist:

Violent offenders who rape their victims fall into different categories. These are different types of rapists, who rape for different reasons and do it in different ways. Nonetheless, they are all monsters. Profiles created for each kind of rapist can be used to track down and punished the different types of rapists accordingly.

The Power Reassurance Rapist is the most common type of rapist. He usually will carry a weapon or claim to be, but will not use it or use any more force than necessary to fulfill his fantasy. He wants to express his power through sex, not physical injury. This offender spends an extended period of time with the victim, may compliment her appearance, and may even apologize for what he has just done to her.


The Power Assertive Rapist is primarily concerned with showing how "manly" he is through extreme violence. Unlike the Power Reassurance Rapist, this one is not concerned with the extent of suffering of the victim and usually uses more force than necessary to subdue her.


The Anger Retaliatory Rapist is even more violent. He has a deep hatred towards women and so lashes out against them. Many of his victims require hospitalization.


The Anger Excitation Rapist or sexual sadist is sexually stimulated by the amount of suffering his victim endures. He is the most dangerous type of rapist.

The Opportunistic Rapist will rape someone during another crime taking place, for instance, a robbery or kidnapping. He does not spend very much time with the victim and is usually either high or drunk during the ordeal.

http://www.bxscience.edu/publication...s/f-psyc01.htm (http://www.bxscience.edu/publications/forensics/articles/psychologicalprofiles/f-psyc01.htm)

There's a lot more at the link on criminal behavior. The portion above is only a small snip of the article - the portion that deals with rapists.

This is a great index for us to go by. The Anger Excitation Rapist applys in this case.

[KR2tonenow]

I've come to the same conclusion - if he wanted her to be found he could have left the body out in the open, if he wanted to hide her a little research would have found a much better place.

Right, I get that he really didn't give a darn, rape, kill, dump and go.

The guys a sickco.:mad:

[SuziQ]

Leviosa, very interesting. And I almost choked on icewater when I saw the name "Mr. Perp". I snorted so loud I got a very strange look from my son! lol.

[philamena]

http://www.kren.com/Global/story.asp?S=7890333&nav=menu616_2

Reno Police did not return phone calls seeking an update on the search for the suspect.
Over the weekend hundreds of people called police and secret witness with tips.

[philamena]

http://www.keyt.com/news/local/15751812.html


A massive manhunt is underway for a serial rapist accused of killing Santa Barbara City College student Brianna Denison.

[LionRun]

Philamena, thank you for the links:).

Lion

[Leila]

I think so too. I sure hope that they catch this slime before he hurts or kills any other young women.

Lion

It was reported on Greta that there's been safety seminars at the college, and students are scared and taking this seriously. They bought pepper spray, tasers, and are walking in pairs or groups. This is good, and hopefully will make it too difficult for the suspect to grab any girls from that area. But, that may only make him go to another area.

I just hope LE can catch him before anyone else gets harmed.

[LionRun]

It was reported on Greta that there's been safety seminars at the college, and students are scared and taking this seriously. They bought pepper spray, tasers, and are walking in pairs or groups. This is good, and hopefully will make it too difficult for the suspect to grab any girls from that area. But, that may only make him go to another area.

I just hope LE can catch him before anyone else gets harmed.

Thank goodness for the seminars! I hope that young women all around Reno listen and do what is suggested. Unfortunately, some young women may let their guard down or not heed the warnings at the wrong time. I sure hope he is caught before the compulsion to rape and kill outweighs any apprehensions he might might have to do this again.

Lion

[Leila]

This is a great index for us to go by. The Anger Excitation Rapist applys in this case.

I agree.......I think he falls into either the "angry retaliatory rapist" or the "angry excitation rapist."

[Rolex]

Armchair quaterbacking is a great sport, huh?

Unfortunatly, we do not know all that LE does, even though we all have relatives or friends in law enforment. Example, my husband is a pilot but I have no idea how to fly an airplane)
You guys don't know all the details, the talking heads are great at drama including Mark F
I think Reno PD is doing what needs to be done. And don't forget the FBI is involved as well

[chiperoni]

I agree.......I think he falls into either the "angry retaliatory rapist" or the "angry excitation rapist."
Whatever he is I hope he's caught soon. He's already ruined a lot of lives and it has to be so scary for all the young college women.

[SeriouslySearching]

I have the same questions that Mark F. and several people here have had. They may have made mistakes in this case. I never said that they didn't. Some things thought of as mistakes may not be mistakes. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes. I choose to focus on what can be done now, what can be learned from mistakes to help prevent future attacks, and what we can do to make a difference. What can be done in my own city and state to help prevent the same thing (no funds for DNA testing) from happening here?

That is one reason why I decided to do K9 SAR years ago. I was a victim and wanted to find a way to do something in other victims' best interests. Well, that and I love dogs and working with them. It is troubling to see so much LE fault finding. It doesn't help make positive change, and that is one of the main reasons that I'm here on websleuths. I'm sorry if I offended anyone for that is not my intention.

LionThis was an excellent post, Lion. I just wanted to make sure that people read it. You never offend anyone. :) You do bring good points to the table tho.

[philamena]

Philamena, thank you for the links:).

Lion
Lion,
You're welcome. :)

[Ca-Sun]

This is one of the early news reports - it answers some of the questions we all have been asking.

By MARTIN GRIFFITH
Associated Press Writer

RENO, Nev. (AP) -- Police said Sunday a DNA link between the disappearance of a 19-year-old woman and the December sexual assault of a college student leads them to believe a sole attacker was responsible for both cases.

DNA taken from the scene where Brianna Denison was last seen Jan. 20 matches DNA gathered after the Dec. 16 sexual assault of a University of Nevada-Reno student who lived several blocks away, police commander Ron Holladay said.

Police believe a white male in his 30s is responsible for Denison's disappearance and the attack, Holladay said.

"Our chances of capturing the suspect are exponentially increased now because of the DNA," he said. "He probably lives in the area. It's still my hope that Brianna is alive, and we're expending every resource possible to get her back safely."

Holladay said the victim of the earlier attack was interviewed again after the DNA match was made and that a more detailed description of the suspect was developed.

That victim was abducted outside her home on Dec. 16, taken to another location and sexually assaulted, then brought home by her attacker, Holladay said. She also was the victim of a Jan. 19 attempted burglary at her home that may be connected to the attacker, Holladay said.

About the blood belonging to Brianna:
Crime lab technicians have determined a small stain on a pillow at the house where Denison vanished is the blood of Denison, a student at Santa Barbara (Calif.) City College, who was visiting her hometown over winter break.

[SeriouslySearching]

Armchair quaterbacking is a great sport, huh?

Unfortunatly, we do not know all that LE does, even though we all have relatives or friends in law enforment. Example, my husband is a pilot but I have no idea how to fly an airplane)
You guys don't know all the details, the talking heads are great at drama including Mark F
I think Reno PD is doing what needs to be done. And don't forget the FBI is involved as wellYes, hopefully people who don't know how to fly planes will not because they are only related! LOL Do you consider the FBI to be the ultimate in the crime fighting area?! Did you realize it only depends on the people in the area and the involvement of what they can bring to the table with forensics? Not saying that they are not good at what they do...they are. Saying they are selective in what they do. They are limited by the local PD.

[SeriouslySearching]

This is one of the early news reports - it answers some of the questions we all have been asking.

By MARTIN GRIFFITH
Associated Press Writer

RENO, Nev. (AP) -- Police said Sunday a DNA link between the disappearance of a 19-year-old woman and the December sexual assault of a college student leads them to believe a sole attacker was responsible for both cases.

DNA taken from the scene where Brianna Denison was last seen Jan. 20 matches DNA gathered after the Dec. 16 sexual assault of a University of Nevada-Reno student who lived several blocks away, police commander Ron Holladay said.

Police believe a white male in his 30s is responsible for Denison's disappearance and the attack, Holladay said.

"Our chances of capturing the suspect are exponentially increased now because of the DNA," he said. "He probably lives in the area. It's still my hope that Brianna is alive, and we're expending every resource possible to get her back safely."

Holladay said the victim of the earlier attack was interviewed again after the DNA match was made and that a more detailed description of the suspect was developed.

That victim was abducted outside her home on Dec. 16, taken to another location and sexually assaulted, then brought home by her attacker, Holladay said. She also was the victim of a Jan. 19 attempted burglary at her home that may be connected to the attacker, Holladay said.

About the blood belonging to Brianna:
Crime lab technicians have determined a small stain on a pillow at the house where Denison vanished is the blood of Denison, a student at Santa Barbara (Calif.) City College, who was visiting her hometown over winter break.What date was this report? There is no question they vamped up the other two rapes DNA after Brianna was abducted.

[Ca-Sun]

What date was this report? There is no question they vamped up the other two rapes DNA after Brianna was abducted.There was no link posted with it, but the post was made on the 27th of January. I posted it because of all the talk about the sketch.

[SeriouslySearching]

Holladay said the victim of the earlier attack was interviewed again after the DNA match was made and that a more detailed description of the suspect was developed.

This is what bothered me.

There is no question that the other rapes were from the same man. The problem is the October rape. There is nothing that leads them back to there such as DNA and they keep using the sketch from that victim.

[Ca-Sun]

I think so too. I sure hope that they catch this slime before he hurts or kills any other young women.

Lion
I hope LE gets what they need because time might be running out.

Nov 13th - First attack.

Dec 16th - 2nd attack. (34 days from 1'st attack)

Jan 20th - 35 days from 2nd attack.

So, 34 days would be Feb 23.

35 days will be on Feb 24.

[Ca-Sun]

Holladay said the victim of the earlier attack was interviewed again after the DNA match was made and that a more detailed description of the suspect was developed.

This is what bothered me.

There is no question that the other rapes were from the same man. The problem is the October rape. There is nothing that leads them back to there such as DNA and they keep using the sketch from that victim.They aren't talking about the October attack. It says they interviewed the Nov. survivor again and obtained a more detailed description.

[SeriouslySearching]

They aren't going to catch this guy with decoys. He knows his prey now. Brianna and the others were chosen because of opportunity. He is going to look for women he has seen before.

[SeriouslySearching]

They aren't talking about the October attack. It says they interviewed the Nov. survivor again and obtained a more detailed description.
Oh, sorry...I read it wrong. :)

[SeriouslySearching]

The best case scenario is they will find this bast$#d now. The worst case scenario is that he will haunt Reno for years. Perhaps he already has...we just don't know.

[FireGurl26]

Thank you chicoliving. I won't post the pic or info. I did send it to authorities.

Does anyone know if Brianna liked to swim in the school pool during her visit? I believe this is where the suspect first stalked her.

[LionRun]

Thank you for the compliment earlier, SS:). I think that if the killer's compulsion to rape/kill increases to the point where he must satisfy his twisted needs he will take the risk and abduct/attack again. And, it may not be anyone he has ever seen before. Like a drug addict he may risk all to get what he craves. He has already proven himself to be a risk taker. If he is riveting with the compulsion to rape he will likely forgo all self-safety measures.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

Thank you for the compliment earlier, SS:). I think that if the killer's compulsion to rape/kill increases to the point where he must satisfy his twisted needs he will take the risk and abduct/attack again. And, it may not be anyone he has ever seen before. Like a drug addict he may risk all to get what he craves. He has already proven himself to be a risk taker. If he is riveting with the compulsion to rape he will likely forgo all self-safety measures.

LionYou could very well be right. He has taken some huge risks already. I just hope that the women in the area really listen to the warnings. It will break my heart if he strikes again.

[LionRun]

Is the only think that may seem inconsistent concerning the October versus the later attacks that it was reported that he had a gun?

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

He had a gun is a big point. The description didn't seem to match either. I would have to go back to find the other traits...but no it didn't match his mo. The fact they cannot connect this case with DNA is another huge point. He actually raped this woman. (Not saying that oral sex is not rape...but MO is different.)

[LionRun]

You could very well be right. He has taken some huge risks already. I just hope that the women in the area really listen to the warnings. It will break my heart if he strikes again.

Me too. And, it will inevitably happen again unless he is caught. He may be keeping himself in check due to all of the publicity. But, sooner or later his overwhelming compulsion to rape/kill will win out. I hope and pray that he is caught before this happens. Serial rapists/killers generally don't stop unless they are caught, dead, in prison or disabled. And, it looks like this slime was just getting up his momentum.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

Me too. And, it will inevitably happen again unless he is caught. He may be keeping himself in check due to all of the publicity. But, sooner or later his overwhelming compulsion to rape/kill will win out. I hope and pray that he is caught before this happens. Serial rapists/killers generally don't stop unless they are caught, dead, in prison or disabled. And, it looks like this slime was just getting up his momentum.

LionI could not agree more. Now he has added to his sick addiction.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't want to hear of another. I want to hear that LE stopped another attack. I want to hear that people are listening to their gut instincts and turning the right person in so that LE can zero in on him.

[Ca-Sun]

He had a gun is a big point. The description didn't seem to match either. I would have to go back to find the other traits...but no it didn't match his mo. The fact they cannot connect this case with DNA is another huge point. He actually raped this woman. (Not saying that oral sex is not rape...but MO is different.)They couldn't connect this case with DNA because LE doesn't ave any from the October attack. Actually, they continue to say this case "could be" connected.

[LionRun]

He had a gun is a big point. The description didn't seem to match either. I would have to go back to find the other traits...but no it didn't match his mo. The fact they cannot connect them with DNA is another huge point. He actually raped this woman.

I thought that the only thing that was definitely different was that whomever attacked the young woman in October had a gun. If that is the case, then it could be the same killer. It could be that after the attack in October, he realised that he didn't need the gun. the gun was not to kill. The gun would have been to overpower his victims. He may have gained enough confidence so as to no longer need it.

He seems to like to disable and kill in the most intimate of ways--with his hands. He deprived the one young woman of oxygen with no weapon--just his hands and his own strength. He strangled Brianna, and although we don't know what he strangled her with (I'm leaning towards the possibility that he used his bare hands), we know that a gun didn't kill her.

I know that the attacker in October may have been a different man, from what we know thus far. But, it is also possible that it is the same man. I think it is a good idea to place a caption under that sketch to explain that this may or may not be the sketch of the rapist/killer.

Lion

[Ca-Sun]

Me too. And, it will inevitably happen again unless he is caught. He may be keeping himself in check due to all of the publicity. But, sooner or later his overwhelming compulsion to rape/kill will win out. I hope and pray that he is caught before this happens. Serial rapists/killers generally don't stop unless they are caught, dead, in prison or disabled. And, it looks like this slime was just getting up his momentum.

LionYou are absolutely right, unfortunately. If he isn't caught, he will strike again. Like I said earlier, given his current pattern we are getting very close to him attacking again.

[LionRun]

They couldn't connect this case with DNA because LE doesn't ave any from the October attack. Actually, they continue to say this case "could be" connected.

Thank you, Ca-Sun:).

Lion

[LionRun]

You are absolutely right, unfortunately. If he isn't caught, he will strike again. Like I said earlier, given his current pattern we are getting very close to him attacking again.

I know! Patterns can change depending on what state of mind he is in and what other things are going on in his life. But, his cooling off period might be about over. His compulsion will likely redevelop soon if it hasn't already. Huge media coverage with people everywhere talking about this case might keep him in check for longer than if there was no coverage. But, eventually he will likely give in to his twisted needs.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

I disagree. Most of men who do crime in control situations will use what works for them. The gun worked...he will use it again. The fact he did not brandish a weapon tells me it is not the same person. The other man who attacked these women used his strength and mind as weapons. He did not bring anything else to the situation. It would have been easier for him to do this. You don't go backwards. The ultimate factor was that he strangled her. It tells me he had no other weapon.

Police say DNA links Brianna’s killer to the man who tried to sexually assault one UNR student in November and who kidnapped and raped another UNR student in December. A third attack on another student who said she was raped at gunpoint in a UNR parking garage has not been linked forensically, but police say they are looking at it as being connected.
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

[Leila]

http://www.kren.com/Global/story.asp?S=7890333&nav=menu616_2

Philamena,
Thanks for the links, to the one above and to the other one posted after that one.

It's good to know that the police are getting hundreds of tips!

In a report from the RGJ, they state that they've had to put 6 more detectives on the case, just to handle all the tips that are coming in. They're pulling the additional detectives from other cities in the county to aid the Reno police.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS01/80218030/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

[SeriouslySearching]

That is great news! They need additional help! I can't wait til they get this Bast@$D! WOOOHOOO! They need to get him off the streets NOW!

[LionRun]

I agree that in most instances a criminal will stick with what works and that he/she is more likely to graduate to using a gun versus no longer using a gun. And, there could very well be two different slimes involved. Yet, in this case if Brianna's killer was responsible for the October attack, I can see the logic in no longer bringing a gun.

If he found that it did nothing for him psycho-sexually to bring the gun, and he developed the confidence to use his hands to disable and control his victims (which he seems to prefer), I can picture him ditching the gun. I may be totally off base, but I can see the logic in it in this case.

Lion

[SeriouslySearching]

So you think a person will just defy HIS norm and drop a weapon to commit such a crime?! No way. I will always believe they are two separate people who commited the crimes. They do need to find the guy in the sketch...he just is not the guy that killed Brianna.

[Ca-Sun]

I agree that in most instances a criminal will stick with what works and that he/she is more likely to graduate to using a gun versus no longer using a gun. And, there could very well be two different slimes involved. Yet, in this case if the killer was responsible for the October attacks, I can see the logic in no longer bringing a gun.

If he found that it did nothing for him psycho-sexually to bring the gun, and he developed the confidence to use his hands to disable and control his victims (which he seems to prefer), I can picture him ditching the gun. I may be totally off base, but I can see the logic in it in this case.

LionPerhaps he felt he needed it the first time, and then found it was not necessary. Using a gun only leaves him with 1 hand free. Not using a gun, he has two free hands.

[SeriouslySearching]

But the gun worked for him the first time!! He raped her! OK I didn't want to have to get into this...but the second victim only said she was orally raped. Now...since we heard tonite that they were gone for three hours...this could be in the first commission of his crimes. We have only heard about her testimony of being raped in his truck.

[Ca-Sun]

But the gun worked for him the first time!! He raped her! OK I didn't want to have to get into this...but the second victim only said she was orally raped. Now...since we heard tonite that they were gone for three hours...this could be in the first commission of his crimes. We have only heard about her testimony of being raped in his truck.
Where did you hear all this?

O/T Did anyone watch Prison Break tonight?

[SeriouslySearching]

The woman who was the spokesperson for the Denison family, told this tid bit when she was discussing Brianna (That the second victim was held for 3 hours.) She also mentioned the shoe was from a 3yo or younger. This gives us good information.

[Ca-Sun]

The woman who was the spokesperson for the Denison family, told this tid bit when she was discussing Brianna (That the second victim was held for 3 hours.) She also mentioned the shoe was from a 3yo or younger. This gives us good information.
It is good info - at this point we'll take anything!

[Ca-Sun]

I hope tomorrow's headlines read: Brianna's Killer Found!

Good Night.

[SeriouslySearching]

OK NO I do not watch Prison Break EVER. Sorry. LOL I heard all of this by following every ounce of this case. There are so many links in the first threads that I refuse to get them for you.

[SeriouslySearching]

I hope tomorrow's headlines read: Brianna's Killer Found!

Good Night.I cannot wait until that day!!! WOOHOO! Let's just pray for justice tomorrow!!

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think I was clear that I thought the sketch of the man that raped the October victim should be pursued. I want him to be posted with national attention! Of course, he should be caught and prosecuted!

I think there are two perps in these cases. I simply do not think they should have blended the two. It puts stress on this case to come up with that perp..when they have no indication it was really him. The day they connect this one with DNA...I will be behind them One Hundred Percent. (Until then...not so much.)

[H0NEYWEST]

I was out today (in Reno) and I never noticed before that almost everyone in town drives a friggin' truck or an SUV - needle in the haystack time.

People are really paying attention. The place I had lunch had big screen TVs all around and when a story came on about Brianna most of the patrons stared at the sceens transfixed.

Now, now for a really huge stretch. STRETCH.

I have read the perp's shirt described as, "Suspect clothing at the time of the Kidnap/Sexual assault: red (not maroon) short sleeve shirt described as being made of material similar in feel to a Fubu jersey-type shirt (silk/rayon/polyester type) with a medium blue-colored neckline, short printed (possibly embroidered) word on the upper left breast area..."

Unfortunately, I have no idea what a "Fubu" shirt is like and my googling didn't help much, so in my mind I just had colors. While I was out I went to Lowe's. The employees wear interesting shirts - to me anyway. What do you think?

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/HoneysOcelot/Lowesshirt.jpg

More of a vest - but I was looking at the colors.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, they do! I also found that the colors of Reno High were the same. Bright blue with red. (And they do jerseys.)

[Chicogirl36]

Whew!! This is great to see…that this case is generating so much…even leads! Okay I saw this person on the original "Our Fave Suspect" myspace page. He was listed as a friend of the main guy. However, when I saw this person—the loopy eye, ears, facial hair, and stature was enough for me to investigate more; then when I saw that his profile was set to 'Friends Only' I got suspicious.

Then when the sketch was released the resemblance was way too close to ignore. Anyway, if you want to you can visit: http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/ (http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/) and I've tried to put a comparison up for you to view and hopefully give your opinions on.

If there are any problems with the WordPress blog "The Thinker" one can also go to http://img402.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img402/4237/1203387936v4i.smil where the photos actually look better. CHEERS!

Let's keep the intensity up!


OMG- I checked this out and you have found an excellent match!! WOW- this looks better than some famous perps that have been captured and convicted off of a sketch. The hair color may be off, but the similarities of the facial structure are so close, this cannot be overlooked-IMHO Reno/Sparks is a small area for locals that age group. Myspace just may be the way to track someone down and looking at friends is always a great place to start. Look over at Chester Stiles thread how we tracked down the "family" thru Myspace, and learned quite a bit about their lifestyle.I dont see that anyone has responded to your pic./post. It was busy on the board and maybe got overlooked? I hope that you have passed this on to RPD- If you haven't, I will. :waitasec:

[10EC_Dad]

I know! Patterns can change depending on what state of mind he is in and what other things are going on in his life. But, his cooling off period might be about over. His compulsion will likely redevelop soon if it hasn't already. Huge media coverage with people everywhere talking about this case might keep him in check for longer than if there was no coverage. But, eventually he will likely give in to his twisted needs.

Lion

If prostitution was illigal in Reno, it would be a great time for a sting.

[paddy01]

I don't know how to show you the mapping I have done with not only the four incidents they are talking about...but I have mapped other rapes, murders, attempted rapes in the area dating back to 2003 that I could find. There are a few which have occurred along the corridor of Virginia Ave. between where Brianna was abducted and found. The most striking thing for me was the descriptions of others indicated similarities, but stopped when olive skin and Hispanic came into play.

Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't it Virginia Street?

[adnoid]

If prostitution was illigal in Reno, it would be a great time for a sting.

Prostitution is illegal in Washoe County (and Clark County, where Las Vegas is). IIRC the law allows it in counties with populations of under 300,000.

[Taximom]

The bend in the nose, has facial hair...Leviosa, that looks like a very interesting match.

[adnoid]

Hundreds of Brianna tips pour in (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/NEWS18/80218048&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews)

“People are truly concerned and want to help,” said Lt. Robert McDonald, head of the Reno robbery/homicide unit. “They are letting us decide if what they saw or heard is helpful to the investigation.” Detectives have talked with those identified in tips, and they have taken voluntary DNA samples from some people.

[paddy01]

Whew!! This is great to see…that this case is generating so much…even leads! Okay I saw this person on the original "Our Fave Suspect" myspace page. He was listed as a friend of the main guy. However, when I saw this person—the loopy eye, ears, facial hair, and stature was enough for me to investigate more; then when I saw that his profile was set to 'Friends Only' I got suspicious.

Then when the sketch was released the resemblance was way too close to ignore. Anyway, if you want to you can visit: http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/ (http://onemorecup.wordpress.com/4-ws/) and I've tried to put a comparison up for you to view and hopefully give your opinions on.

If there are any problems with the WordPress blog "The Thinker" one can also go to http://img402.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img402/4237/1203387936v4i.smil where the photos actually look better. CHEERS!

Let's keep the intensity up!

WOW, so much more of a resemblance then "myspace guy," IMO. TY, for the links.

[10EC_Dad]

I agree that in most instances a criminal will stick with what works and that he/she is more likely to graduate to using a gun versus no longer using a gun. And, there could very well be two different slimes involved. Yet, in this case if Brianna's killer was responsible for the October attack, I can see the logic in no longer bringing a gun.

If he found that it did nothing for him psycho-sexually to bring the gun, and he developed the confidence to use his hands to disable and control his victims (which he seems to prefer), I can picture him ditching the gun. I may be totally off base, but I can see the logic in it in this case.

Lion

I may be wrong on this but I thought the victim he took home stated that he threatened her with a gun. Am I mixed up on this?

[10EC_Dad]

Prostitution is illegal in Washoe County (and Clark County, where Las Vegas is). IIRC the law allows it in counties with populations of under 300,000.

His appetite may not subside but he may be too afraid to attack again. It is very possible he will use a prostitute this month.

[TheBugHouse]

Armchair quaterbacking is a great sport, huh?

Unfortunatly, we do not know all that LE does, even though we all have relatives or friends in law enforment. Example, my husband is a pilot but I have no idea how to fly an airplane)
You guys don't know all the details, the talking heads are great at drama including Mark F
I think Reno PD is doing what needs to be done. And don't forget the FBI is involved as well
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It's very easy to blame LE for "not doing something sooner" or say "they should be letting us search". Most of these outcrys come from people without a clue about evidence preservation or crime scene integrity or due process. It is indeed easy to conduct an investigation from ones armchair and keyboard.

[newshound81]

Let me preface here I am talking about the second vic, then Bri.

We know he returned her to her place of residence..that freaked me out right away, who lets a rapist take you home? I am wondering if he didn't take her back to her place and rape her again....and then he burglared that place on Jan 19th, why , because he thought she would be there to rape, when she wasn't there, he looked for another vic, Bri which was on the 2oth of Jan. this is someone who rapes about 1 x per month..again I say we are looking at him doing this again either this week or next.

LE needs to be very vigligant and so do women in this area of the college. And I live in PA so I don't know the vic..just profiling here.
I have been wondering how he knew her address. Did he make her tell him? Or had he been stalking her and knew where she lived already? I think this is an important question to look into, because of the stalker element. That means he very well could have stalked the Mackay Court house prior to Brianna's abduction, or stalked her the night before at SWAT, or as she was leaving that house to go to SWAT. Or, one thing I haven't heard put out there is whether or not the perp could have followed Bri from her mom's house in another part of Reno. Remember that either KT or her friend picked Bri up from her mom's and took her to Mackay Court.

[newshound81]

I am glad they are conducting safety seminars on campus and stepping up security at the college. Those are positive steps.

It is a very scary scenario to think he could strike again within that time frame. Yes, it could happen.

It does bother me that he went back to victim #2's apt. the night before he abducted Brianna. He is very bold to try to go back to rape her again. Was he going to kill her instead? Did he realize he had made a mistake in leaving a witness? Is this the reason he killed Brianna?

Maybe he came back again to see if victim #2 was home and not finding her there...he happened to see Bri through the open doors and windows. He was already in his predatory state and seized the opportunity. Makes sense to me.
Aren't there some rapists who try to turn their victims into "dates?" I just saw a case like that on some show. The rapist dropped the victim at the house and actually came back a few nights later to bring her a Christmas tree and take her "out." I think at that point the cops were already staking out the place. Could this perp have been hoping the Taiwanese girl could be his "steady" victim?

[10EC_Dad]

Refocusing on the suspect, I want to restate my "profile" of the perp and get your thoughts.

Male in early 30s
Married/recently divorced
Lives in suburb within 30 mins of crimes ( I have suspected an area like North Valleys based on proximity and demograhics obtained from Google Maps and Census websites)
Works within 15 mins of crimes
Chose his "territory" due to the availabilty of chosen "targets"
Is quite, no close friends, however can be charming
Has no previous criminal record

I may be way off base in my opinion. I would greatly appreciate others' "profile".

I do not think murder was his motive with Brianna. It may have been contemplated but not the ultimate objective. I think the murder is an example that his sickness is writing checks that his intelligance can't cover. Thus, Brianna was found in an unlikely location not indicitive of a well th