View Full Version : THE REASON for AMBER ALERT... Prayers requested
blueclouds
03-26-2004, 02:18 AM
ALTHOUGH AMBER IS NOT MISSING ANYMORE, I THOUGHT I'D POST HERE AS THIS IS READ MORE OFTEN... (hope mods don't mind)
I'm requesting prayers for little AMBER whose mother originated the AMBER ALERT.
Ambers murderer has NEVER BEEN FOUND. That's a horrible shame. I want to send prayers to Ambers family that they will find resolution in Ambers killing and the perp will be brought to justice.
Here's links:
http://www.amber-plan.net/about_amber.htm
http://www.puellula.org/en/Missing/Memoriam/Hagerman.html
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7348723&pt=Amber%20Hagerman
http://www.katyinfo.com/aboutamber.htm
http://www.codeamber.org/
Juliana
03-26-2004, 08:04 AM
ALTHOUGH AMBER IS NOT MISSING ANYMORE, I THOUGHT I'D POST HERE AS THIS IS READ MORE OFTEN... (hope mods don't mind)
I'm requesting prayers for little AMBER whose mother originated the AMBER ALERT.
Ambers murderer has NEVER BEEN FOUND. That's a horrible shame. I want to send prayers to Ambers family that they will find resolution in Ambers killing and the perp will be brought to justice.
Here's links:
http://www.amber-plan.net/about_amber.htm
http://www.puellula.org/en/Missing/Memoriam/Hagerman.html
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7348723&pt=Amber%20Hagerman
http://www.katyinfo.com/aboutamber.htm
http://www.codeamber.org/
Thank you, Blueclouds! Amber's family lives in the same area as we do, and I think of Amber and her family often. I remember the horror that gripped our community for those few days she was missing before she was found, and then a different kind of horror after she was found.
Thank you for initiating something for this family who has helped so many others through their tragedy.
johnny
03-26-2004, 09:34 AM
August 17, 1999
Richard Lee "Ricky" Franks was arrested and charged with aggravated kidnaping and indecency with a child after admitting to authorities that he abducted six-year-old Opal Jennings.
Police say Opal was taken on March 26, 1999 from her home in Saginaw, Texas. At around 5:30 that evening, Opal was in her front yard playing with two other children when a man got out of his car, walked over to the group and grabbed Opal. Police say the man put the six-year-old in the front seat of his car and drove away.
The abductor was described to police as a white or Hispanic male with dark shoulder length hair, pulled into a ponytail. The suspect's car was described to police as a dark colored, possibly a Chrysler or Plymouth model.
The initial tip on Franks came from his probation officer. Police say the officer noticed in an April 1st probation meeting that Franks had cut his hair. The officer also noticed he was driving a car that matched the description of Opal's abductor. Frank's probation officer told the cops.
But by the time the information made its way to the investigating officers in the case, it was one of many leads. With the detectives from Saginaw forging through hundreds of leads, the Franks tip was not checked into for weeks.
Ultimately, when the cops noticed the similarities in Franks and the abductor, and that he had a criminal record, he became a suspect. To get him into custody so the officers could start their interrogation, Franks was picked up on an outstanding traffic warrant on August 17, 1999.
When he was questioned, Franks admitted that he was the man that took Opal from her front yard, but said that the six-year-old went with him willingly. Franks also told police that Opal attempted to initiate sexual contact with him.
Police and FBI searched for any trace of Opal around Franks' house and car and several areas around Saginaw. Opal has still not been found. Franks is currently being held in the Tarrant County Jail in Fort Worth on a $1.5 million bond.
blueclouds
03-26-2004, 12:44 PM
JOHNNY, DID YOU POST THIS because you think Opal's killer could be Ambers as well?
johnny
03-26-2004, 06:55 PM
I wanted others to see the possibility without my opinion.
Looks like you came up with the same thought.
Studies say that many times sexual offenders (psychopaths) start at older ages many times and progress younger and younger. Wonder what his first sexual offenses were and if we can get more details.
tracie
02-02-2005, 02:02 PM
ALTHOUGH AMBER IS NOT MISSING ANYMORE, I THOUGHT I'D POST HERE AS THIS IS READ MORE OFTEN... (hope mods don't mind)
I'm requesting prayers for little AMBER whose mother originated the AMBER ALERT.
Ambers murderer has NEVER BEEN FOUND. That's a horrible shame. I want to send prayers to Ambers family that they will find resolution in Ambers killing and the perp will be brought to justice.
Here's links:
http://www.amber-plan.net/about_amber.htm
http://www.puellula.org/en/Missing/Memoriam/Hagerman.html
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7348723&pt=Amber%20Hagerman
http://www.katyinfo.com/aboutamber.htm
http://www.codeamber.org/
Hi ,i am just a lurker , but wanted to let you know something you may consider disturbing. If you go to the main page of this site,
http://www.puellula.org (http://www.puellula.org/)
instead of this link
http://www.puellula.org/en/Missing/Memoriam/Hagerman.html
you will find something that may make you feel sick to your stomach.
It is horrible that he is using the name and images of missing children on a site like this.
amandab
02-02-2005, 02:14 PM
OMG that is REVOLTING
I cannot even form into words how disgusting that is.
tracie
02-02-2005, 02:23 PM
OMG that is REVOLTING
I cannot even form into words how disgusting that is.
My same thoughts.
lisan1373
02-02-2005, 02:25 PM
I am so disturbed by the seemingly glorification this man impresses about his perversion. Although the internet is a mecca for information and affords so much positive opportunity...the downside is that a site such as this can be seen by anyone. The power of suggestion can be be just as tragic as it can be beneficial. I am disturbed.:behindbar
inquiringmindz
02-02-2005, 02:44 PM
Oh, what a shame. I don't know if this will fall into the category of pornography or not but maybe if enough email something could be done about it.
http://www.asacp.org/reportsite.html
Txswthrt5
02-02-2005, 02:48 PM
Hi ,i am just a lurker , but wanted to let you know something you may consider disturbing. If you go to the main page of this site,
http://www.puellula.org (http://www.puellula.org/)
instead of this link
http://www.puellula.org/en/Missing/Memoriam/Hagerman.html
you will find something that may make you feel sick to your stomach.
It is horrible that he is using the name and images of missing children on a site like this.
DISGUSTING! If you read further, ie the manifesto etc, Sounds a LOT like Michael Jackson...
JMO
WasBlind
02-02-2005, 08:30 PM
The site belongs to someone in France named Lindsay Ashford.
My suggestion would be to complain through the host company, which is Go Daddy Software, Inc. They can be reached at abuse@godaddy.com
I would NOT recommend contacting this Lindsay person. If you write once, he/she has your IP addy, and can attack your pc.
I know WS'ers can get this site shut down to honor Amber's memory, and the memory of all who were hurt or killed by pedophiles.
With HOPE, Lanie
GatorMom
02-02-2005, 08:44 PM
I just fired off an email to abuse@godaddy.com and I would encourage everyone here to do the same.
WasBlind
02-02-2005, 09:02 PM
I just fired off an email to abuse@godaddy.com and I would encourage everyone here to do the same.
:clap: Thank you, GatorMom
Here's a page (http://hfp.puellula.org/Mailbag.html) you might want to draw their attention to.
The index on the left is particulary frightening.
This manifesto (http://hfp.puellula.org/Manifesto.html) details how happy this guy is to be in France vs. America, since in America, pedophilia is a crime.
Here are his FAQ's (http://hfp.puellula.org/FAQ.html)
Scary that this is even on-line.
Prayers for our children, Lanie
audrey77
02-02-2005, 09:04 PM
He's been in the US!!! He's an American! Ugh...
http://www.nj.com/specialprojects/expresstimes/index.ssf?/news/expresstimes/stories/molesters1_otherside.html
'I'm tired of being forced into the shadows by society'
Sunday, February 22, 2004
By RUSS FLANAGAN
The Express-Times (nj)
After nearly three decades of failed relationships and emotional discontent, Lindsay Ashford has finally found himself.
Since he was a child, Ashford has always had a deep attraction to young girls but never acted on his urges or knew they had a name.
It wasn't until five years ago, at the age of 30, that Ashford realized why his brief marriage and his countless flings across the United States and Europe always ended the same.
Ashford is a pedophile.
For most of his life, he has buried his emotions and masked his long-secreted attraction. It wasn't until recently that Ashford decided to throw off the shackles of pedophilia and shed light on what he says is a misunderstood "sexual orientation." Last year, he became perhaps one of the first pedophiles in the world to put his name and face on a Web site to publicly profess his love for children.
"I am tired of being forced into the shadows by society," Ashford said recently in an e-mail interview. "I have committed no crime, therefore there is no good reason that I should have to hide myself. As long as pedophiles continue to hide, there is no chance of them ever being accepted."
Ashford, an American expatriate living in the south of France, believes it is time the public learned pedophiles are different from child molesters in that they enjoy a romantic and emotional, but not always sexual, connection with children. He also believes it is time for a child rights movement that will give kids more say in how to live their lives.
Ashford, 35, an unemployed business consultant, is part of a pioneering group of pedophiles from around the world who also believe pedophilia is not a sexual disorder that can be cured by medication and psychotherapy. He believes, rather, that it is a sexual orientation with which he was born, and therefore, cannot deny.
This is a view shared by numerous pro-pedophilia groups around the world. In the United States, the most notorious may be the New York-based North American Man/Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA....
Julie
02-03-2005, 01:17 AM
That is totally disgusting. That one girl condoning a sexual relationship with her mother! I cannot believe stuff like that is allowed on the internet, makes me sick.
messiecake
02-03-2005, 09:53 AM
That is totally disgusting. That one girl condoning a sexual relationship with her mother! I cannot believe stuff like that is allowed on the internet, makes me sick.
I didn't see that but I am ill none the less!!!!!!!!
:bang:
tennessee
02-03-2005, 12:41 PM
:sick:
I just can't think of anything more to say. This is so gross. These poor, innocent little children.
SewingDeb
02-03-2005, 01:51 PM
Hi ,i am just a lurker , but wanted to let you know something you may consider disturbing. If you go to the main page of this site,
http://www.puellula.org (http://www.puellula.org/)
instead of this link
http://www.puellula.org/en/Missing/Memoriam/Hagerman.html
you will find something that may make you feel sick to your stomach.
It is horrible that he is using the name and images of missing children on a site like this.
I'm just now reading this, but thank God the link doesn't work today especially if it's what I think it is.
Edit to say the main page doesn't work, but links to other pages still work. I read a little, but this is sickening to me.
blueclouds
02-04-2005, 12:16 AM
this is sick...............I am literally not going to be able to keep down my supper. I cannot imagine that there is nothing that can be done. I'm sending out feelers to see if a crime is being committed. HE IS luring little girls, letting them ask questions, sending emails............ he's looking.
OMG OMG OMG................. why can't this guy spontaneously combust?~
WasBlind
02-04-2005, 04:11 AM
Go Daddy is hosting a pedophile, URGENT
To whom it may concern
Your host company has a web site that promotes and endorses pedophilia. The site is www.puellula.com and I am writing you today to ask that you remove this filth and cancel this jerks contract.
His name is Lindsey Ashford, and he moved to France because it's more "acceptable" to date children there, apparently. I could not read much of his site, it's really bad. He claims nothing is wrong with him, this is a "lifestyle choice" and children are naturally sexual beings who desire to be touched and "loved".
I do realize that this site being removed will not stop his perversion, but at least he should not be able to "promote" it and teach people how to "get away" with molesting our children.
Thanks in advance for anything you can do to protect our future, our children.
With HOPE, Lanie
Help For The Missing
HelpForTheMissing@yahoo.com
txsvicki
02-04-2005, 06:57 AM
DISGUSTING! If you read further, ie the manifesto etc, Sounds a LOT like Michael Jackson...
JMO
I was going to try and find a site to report this pervert to Interpol and while looking at his site I noticed that he has a whole page of links to different authorities in case we viewers online are outraged and want to report him! He says that many have reported him and nothing can be done because it is free speech. I sent an email to interpol anyway. How disgusting.
WasBlind
02-04-2005, 09:06 AM
Sample letter (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=520876#post520876) for any other agencies you may contact.
Please feel free to use whatever you need from the samples I have provided.
Thanks to all who have contacted me for more information.
Prayers of HOPE for our children, Lanie
KatzHome
02-04-2005, 09:14 AM
What is the link to email GoDaddy? Links for the FBI, Interpol? Any others?
WasBlind
02-04-2005, 09:25 AM
What is the link to email GoDaddy? Links for the FBI, Interpol? Any others?
abuse@godaddy.com
http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm , find your city, click that link and then go to the contact page.
www.interpol.int or http://www.usdoj.gov/usncb/ , go to the contact page for e-mail or on-line contact form.
NCMEC (National Center for Missing and Exploited Children)
http://www.missingkids.com/
Click on their contact page under sexual exploitation, I believe.
But webmaster@missingkids.com will work to get the exact addy to use.
Blessings to all helping spread the word, Lanie
englishleigh
02-04-2005, 10:08 AM
ALTHOUGH AMBER IS NOT MISSING ANYMORE, I THOUGHT I'D POST HERE AS THIS IS READ MORE OFTEN... (hope mods don't mind)
I'm requesting prayers for little AMBER whose mother originated the AMBER ALERT.
Ambers murderer has NEVER BEEN FOUND. That's a horrible shame. I want to send prayers to Ambers family that they will find resolution in Ambers killing and the perp will be brought to justice.
Here's links:
http://www.amber-plan.net/about_amber.htm
http://www.puellula.org/en/Missing/Memoriam/Hagerman.html
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7348723&pt=Amber%20Hagerman
http://www.katyinfo.com/aboutamber.htm
http://www.codeamber.org/
Makes you wonder how many more missing and murdered babies this animal is responsible for. There is a little girl who was abducted and murdered one hour from me, Shannon Paulk, in Prattville, AL. Her killer has never been caught, either. :furious:
jolayne1963
02-04-2005, 11:24 AM
Although it's been almost 10 years, I can still vividly remember watching the news those 4 days while Amber was missing and how her family was praying and pleading for her safe return. I still can't believe how nobody saw anything, as there was a laundry mat close by full of people on that day and her brother was just too little to give much of a description. She'd been riding her bike alongside the abandoned Winn Dixie grocery store, and it was broad daylight. Abram's St. runs right in front of it. I'd hate to think I was driving down the street that day, not aware that a child was being kidnapped, yet it happens everyday. We go about our business, totally unaware, and our little ones are snatched right under our noses. I visited her memorial there at the spot she was taken, but only after the news said they we're taking it down. I couldn't bare to go there while there was so many people and so much pain and sorrow going on. She's buried in a beautiful location there at Moore's Cemetery, right outside of Baby Land. My husband and I have plots there, as Arlington was home to my ancestors, although I live in the town across the street. My dad believes that a guy whom got killed in a vehicle accident not long after Amber was found, was the one that took her. He was driving a vehicle like the one the suspect was in. It's just a belief. I would think that if Ricky Lee Franks, the one that took Opal Jennings, would have been thoroughly checked out as a suspect long ago. I'd give anything if Amber's killer would be caught, but face the fact that it may never happen. I do pray though, that if someone knows something, they will one day come forward. I do think that NCMEC should get involved in this pedophile's website. If the parents of these children knew about this, I can only imagine the outrage.......... In Christ, Jo Layne
I SENT INFO TO NCMEC ON PUELLULA.ORG ASKING FOR THERE HELP W/THIS HORRIBLE SITE. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE GOVERNMENT COULD ALLOW THIS TO BE POSTED. THIS PERSON/PERSONS NEED TO BE EXECUTED SO OUR CHILDREN CAN LIVE A LONG, SAFE & WONDERFUL LIFE--AND I WILL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO PROVIDE MY CHILDREN W/NOTHING LESS! THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ON THIS SITE TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE WORKING HARD TO MAKE THIS A BETTER WORLD FOR OUR KIDS! I KNOW THIS POST MAY SOUND DRAMATIC BUT I STILL HAVE NOT RECOVERD FROM GOING ON TO THAT SITE! I AM GOING TO GO HOME A HUGE MY KIDS AND NEVER LET THEM OUT OF MY SITE.
mysteriew
02-19-2005, 08:10 AM
This guy says he lives in France but the website is controlled, operated, and administered by HFP from Canada. So it looks like letters need to go to Canadian authorities also
http://hfp.puellula.org/FinePrint.html
scroll to the very bottom of the page
missacorah
11-10-2007, 04:48 PM
I really cant believe this. I hadnt visited the site concerned for a long, long time but had it saved to my favourites as it used to have quite up to date information about missing children.
When I saw it didnt seem to be there anymore I looked up why this could be and felt sick to my stomach when I found out. I got the site name through a search engine and feel sick to think that I was on some kind of sicko site. I feel really bad about it.
Do we know how the site was taken down eventually?
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