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christine2448
03-12-2008, 09:22 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/mjd2.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/mjd.jpg
christine2448
03-12-2008, 09:24 AM
One of our posters (looking back to see who) did these to show what she may have looked like.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabwsmall2jk7.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabwsmalltx7.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabwle2.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabothgf1.jpg
SieSie
03-12-2008, 11:29 AM
I used Photoshop and tried to blend the skin tone so you could see what she might look like without the bruising...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
I don't think that the image the NCMEC has looks anything like her - her face looks too long, her eyebrows look too close together, and even her chin looks bigger/longer. Do you guys think this is a good example of what she might've looked like??
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
christine2448
03-12-2008, 11:32 AM
I used Photoshop and tried to blend the skin tone so you could see what she might look like without the bruising...
I don't think that the image the NCMEC has looks anything like her - her face looks too long, her eyebrows look too close together, and even her chin looks bigger/longer. Do you guys think this is a good example of what she might've looked like??
Great work Sie, did you do the others I posted, I couldn't remember who did them....also, I totally agree, the render by NCMEC is horrible.
I wonder if I could get artist at GBI to do one? She is REALLY good. We just would have to get investigating LE to write GBI asking for assistance w/case and then the artist can help out. I will add this to my questions for our next call to ask about if they would consider it.
SieSie
03-12-2008, 05:01 PM
Great work Sie, did you do the others I posted, I couldn't remember who did them....also, I totally agree, the render by NCMEC is horrible.
Thanks, christine - no, I didn't do the other ones, but they look great! I don't think I'm good enough (graphically) to give her open eyes where they were closed, etc...
The rendered sketch by NCMEC, though, doesn't look anything like the photo, IMO.
JinxieJada
03-12-2008, 09:48 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
awesome work siesie!!
teonspaleprincess
03-13-2008, 09:10 AM
Wow, great work everyone! I find it amazing that so many girls have features that are so close. It really is hard to pinpoint anything really unique about any of them.
OT: Stephanie Benton looks just like this girl that stayed with me for a while back in 1997. She was dating a black guy that was friend of mine and claimed that her mother had put her out because of it. I was 17 and she was around my age or a little younger maybe. I am going to see if I can dig up her picture. I think I still have one of them together.
believe09
03-13-2008, 10:08 AM
I think that MJD has a distinctive nose and jaw line-one of the questions i had was if her nose was broken however with the fall....because of it's slant. I recall that because of the roadrash, somewhat superficial scars on her body would have been obliterated for ID purposes, but I can't figure out why her head and face did not take more of a beating...am i making sense? I think that the fall needs to be reconstructed with speed etc...
christine2448
03-13-2008, 10:11 AM
Several of these have been submitted. I know which I have worked on, don't we have a list someone of rule outs?
For me, I worked on Kristy Rogers, that work I believe is here some where or on Justice Quest, she was not a match. Michaela, I still think it may be her...but cant' remember were we left off on that....Jinxie, if you could go to the www.myspace.com/do_u_recognize_me (http://www.myspace.com/do_u_recognize_me) page we have messages...seems the problem there was mom didn't think it was her so we had trouble going forward?? It was awhile back....it may have gotten dropped, sadly, in the shuffle of things. The rest I have to look...I know we have a list somewhere of those we have submitted.
JinxieJada
03-13-2008, 10:36 AM
Several of these have been submitted. I know which I have worked on, don't we have a list someone of rule outs?
For me, I worked on Kristy Rogers, that work I believe is here some where or on Justice Quest, she was not a match. Michaela, I still think it may be her...but cant' remember were we left off on that....Jinxie, if you could go to the www.myspace.com/do_u_recognize_me (http://www.myspace.com/do_u_recognize_me) page we have messages...seems the problem there was mom didn't think it was her so we had trouble going forward?? It was awhile back....it may have gotten dropped, sadly, in the shuffle of things. The rest I have to look...I know we have a list somewhere of those we have submitted.
Yes, mom was certain that it wasn't her, and LE had no reason to go forward since mom had no desire to do so (Paraphrasing here!!) and it's been "cold" since then....
believe09
03-13-2008, 12:30 PM
Yes, mom was certain that it wasn't her, and LE had no reason to go forward since mom had no desire to do so (Paraphrasing here!!) and it's been "cold" since then....
I read a correspondence from Mom regarding that very subject, and it was clear that she had not looked at the photo's...perhaps from fear? This was a recent one-so did you guys check in with her a while ago when she might have actually checked it out?
Several of these have been submitted. I know which I have worked on, don't we have a list someone of rule outs?
For me, I worked on Kristy Rogers, that work I believe is here some where or on Justice Quest, she was not a match. Michaela, I still think it may be her...but cant' remember were we left off on that....Jinxie, if you could go to the www.myspace.com/do_u_recognize_me (http://www.myspace.com/do_u_recognize_me) page we have messages...seems the problem there was mom didn't think it was her so we had trouble going forward?? It was awhile back....it may have gotten dropped, sadly, in the shuffle of things. The rest I have to look...I know we have a list somewhere of those we have submitted.
Bolded I to still think this one is her.
Angelray
03-19-2008, 12:28 PM
Hi everyone, glad to see others working on this...great job everyone!
I sent things in to the Hayward police on this and all I got back was they would forward to proper authorities..
absinthe
03-26-2008, 02:09 AM
Wow Michaela looks just like her...
Sensational work y'all.
Fairy1
04-11-2008, 01:55 AM
Bolded I to still think this one is her.
I have to agree here. Of all the girls that have been sumitted as possibles, Michaela is by far the closest. I totally understand Michaela's mom not wanting to look at Maricopa JD, but is a DNA check possible? Anybody know?
Angie4b1g
04-13-2008, 11:07 AM
One of our posters (looking back to see who) did these to show what she may have looked like.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabwsmall2jk7.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabwsmalltx7.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabwle2.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/maricopabothgf1.jpg
I did those, and they are still in a folder on my desktop and I see the little thumbnails every day. I would love to put this one to rest :(
Teresa Larson
05-01-2008, 02:50 AM
I don't think the drawn sketches of JD are very good at all because I do not think they even resemble her If you use those to try and find out who she is you won't be able to because the girl in the real pictures and the other ones do not look alike at all. IMO
christine2448
05-16-2008, 02:01 PM
Pictures from Attemptoidentify Myspace, they visited here, where MJD was found, and prayed. What an amazing group! :blowkiss:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/AZSCF4042.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/AZCF4052.jpg
BethInAK
05-22-2008, 02:03 AM
There isn't any post in the eliminated thread that LE has ruled out Stephanie Benton, who disappeared in Arizona in 1995 . Its a long shot but hope LE has looked into this.
Zanko
06-28-2008, 10:51 AM
I just want to commend SieSie for the photo comparisons! They're amazing.
I am blown away at the resemblance between Ekaterina and MJD with that photo.
Zanko
06-28-2008, 10:52 AM
One more thing, SieSie can you do a comparison like the previous ones you did, for DANYEL SPARPANA?
Fairy1
06-28-2008, 04:47 PM
One more thing, SieSie can you do a comparison like the previous ones you did, for DANYEL SPARPANA?
Wow - I can really see a resemblance with Danyel! She was blond, but most likely her hair color would have changed as she got older. Wow, if MJD was her - or another little girl gone missing at such a young age, I fear we will never be able to ID her! What if he sold her or gave her away? Whoever had her would not step forward in a million years. Unless they called it in anonymously.....that could happen! Right?
SieSie
06-30-2008, 12:25 AM
One more thing, SieSie can you do a comparison like the previous ones you did, for DANYEL SPARPANA?
I haven't checked this forum for ages, I don't know what made me decide to check on the progress tonight, but I'm glad I did! I'd be happy to do a comparison - do you have a link for the information for Danyel - is she on CharleyProject or DoeNetwork or what?
ETA: Never mind, I just did a quick Google search and found her photo - will work on the comparison...
Fairy1
06-30-2008, 12:42 AM
Thank you so much SieSie! Seeing them side-by-side makes me think it's not a match. What do ya'll think???
Zanko
06-30-2008, 11:21 AM
When I sent in Danyel as a possible match (a while ago) from the response I got from Suzi was that it may be possible that the road rash could have hid a scar on her knee. She stated that Danyel had not be investigated and she would send this information on to the investigating team. Since then, there hasn't been any information on if she was ruled out due to obvious physical differences or if she was checked in anyway. I will send an email to Suzi again in the near future checking on this.
christine2448
07-23-2008, 01:53 PM
I just viewed the hospital pic.
Omggggggggggggg……that was hard. That upset me. I wasn’t expecting to have such ‘feelings’……looking at her like that……wow.
She also looks MUCH different to me.
christine2448
07-23-2008, 01:54 PM
K..Omggggggggggggggg, again....can anyone even see the freakin' ring???
The sandles are different then I imagined.
Teresa Larson
07-24-2008, 05:38 AM
I used Photoshop and tried to blend the skin tone so you could see what she might look like without the bruising...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
I don't think that the image the NCMEC has looks anything like her - her face looks too long, her eyebrows look too close together, and even her chin looks bigger/longer. Do you guys think this is a good example of what she might've looked like??
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
Not at all!! I think that sketch looks like a complete different person :)
believe09
07-24-2008, 10:07 AM
I don't think MJD looks anything like these girls or the sketch on the posts IMO :)
I like Sandige, but I think her DOB makes her pretty young now that we have the hosp picture.
What I like about Baskin was that she went by her middle name, Christy, which sounds like the recollection LDJ had of her street name...Cory...
phenolred
07-24-2008, 11:20 AM
I just viewed the hospital pic.
Omggggggggggggg……that was hard. That upset me. I wasn’t expecting to have such ‘feelings’……looking at her like that……wow.
She also looks MUCH different to me.
Yeah she REALLY LOOKS SOOOO MUCH Different to ME TOOOO
Hey who did the composite that Shaine thought looked most like her???
is it possible to do something w/this hospital pic??? remove tubes etc she looks like a different person to me wth??
LaWanda
07-24-2008, 12:16 PM
Oh Yeah... From that angle she looks like a different person almost. Also, the ends of her hair appear to be brown. Or am I seeing things?
christine2448
07-24-2008, 12:31 PM
Oh Yeah... From that angle she looks like a different person almost. Also, the ends of her hair appear to be brown. Or am I seeing things?
I think at this point we totally have no idea what her natural color was. It looks like she had it died so many times. In the hospital pic she appears to have blonde and even grey roots.....I think she could have any color hair! :waitasec:
concernedperson
07-24-2008, 12:32 PM
Oh Yeah... From that angle she looks like a different person almost. Also, the ends of her hair appear to be brown. Or am I seeing things?
She has blood mixed in with her hair. It is in several areas....around the neck close to the vent and at the top etc. They don't get the blood out during emergency procedures. She also has some swelling due to the accident that gives her a different appearance than the photo of her at death.
Angie4b1g
07-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Yeah she REALLY LOOKS SOOOO MUCH Different to ME TOOOO
Hey who did the composite that Shaine thought looked most like her???
is it possible to do something w/this hospital pic??? remove tubes etc she looks like a different person to me wth??
I can try, but that hospital picture is taken at such an odd angle.
Angie4b1g
07-24-2008, 12:43 PM
Actually, I think if I just make her face a bit thinner in the original composite, we might have a winner.
Angie4b1g
07-24-2008, 12:52 PM
This might be a little creepy lol but here she is with a slightly thinner face and more makeup.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1952/maricopafullblonde2eu8.jpg http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6085/maricopafullblonde2bwbv2.jpg
BeavisMom62
07-27-2008, 03:47 PM
Can someone put the hospital pic next to the morgue pic? I'm hopeless with that sort of thing. Its amazing the difference between the two. They really cleaned her up for the morgue picture. She really looks "good" if you know what I mean.
christine2448
07-27-2008, 04:03 PM
This might be a little creepy lol but here she is with a slightly thinner face and more makeup.
wow, you do incredible stuff w/pics/computer.....freakin' amazing to me.
VASHLEY88
07-27-2008, 11:50 PM
Is that a scar coming up from her mouth (on the left side)? Or is it tape residue?
it's residue from the tape adhesive.
VASHLEY88
07-27-2008, 11:55 PM
Can someone put the hospital pic next to the morgue pic? I'm hopeless with that sort of thing. Its amazing the difference between the two. They really cleaned her up for the morgue picture. She really looks "good" if you know what I mean.
Yeah. It looks like they photoshopped a lot of it. Like the hole on the right side of her head has been edited out, and they moved her hair over the area that was shaved before snapping a photo. She really does look more "angelic" than most morgue photos I've seen..
phenolred
08-01-2008, 08:45 AM
the ring looks BIG to me, and like a mans ring.....so I think those initials are NOT hers
fmw63
08-01-2008, 10:32 AM
the ring looks BIG to me, and like a mans ring.....so I think those initials are NOT hers
I thought it looked big too, until I looked at other things around it. Then it still looked big:crazy:. That style ring, though, is a lady's ring, Maybe a big lady?
dee10134
08-01-2008, 12:16 PM
I think the ring is a man's ring and was possibly worn on his pinky finger.
Do we know what size the ring was? Maybe we can narrow it down to a possible finger for a man or woman.
dee10134
08-01-2008, 02:39 PM
I think it was fmw who said the detective believes the ring to be a man's ring...
LaWanda
08-01-2008, 06:34 PM
Do we know where the flowery bed sheet came into play? And the fact that there was bungee cord there with the hooks pulled away from the cord is kinda odd to me. Or is it just me?:waitasec:
The bed sheet is from a passerby who stopped to help. It says somewhere in the police report that someone had covered her with it when they tried to help.
FMW I think it was in the other thread mentioned the bungee cord could've been on the road beforehand, I'm inclined to agree.
phenolred
08-02-2008, 12:27 PM
Do we know where the flowery bed sheet came into play? And the fact that there was bungee cord there with the hooks pulled away from the cord is kinda odd to me. Or is it just me?:waitasec:Thats the first thing I noticed too. It struck me as very odd...It almost looked to me like it could have been used to tie her up. I would like to know if Shaine remembers the bungee cord, since he was the first to get to her, I wonder if he saw it and could it have been attached to her?
Teresa Larson
08-02-2008, 09:41 PM
Thats the first thing I noticed too. It struck me as very odd...It almost looked to me like it could have been used to tie her up. I would like to know if Shaine remembers the bungee cord, since he was the first to get to her, I wonder if he saw it and could it have been attached to her?
The bed sheet is from a passerby who stopped to help. It says somewhere in the police report that someone had covered her with it when they tried to help MJD. I think the bungee cord had probably been there before It looks old like it had been laying there for awhile.
BeavisMom62
08-03-2008, 01:34 PM
I can't remember now, wasn't there supposed to be pics of her clothes too, or no? I'm thinking now that they were disposed of before pics were taken but not sure. Any other pics to share, fmw? For some reason, I thought that there were more that we were waiting for. Also, can someone put her morgue pic next to her hospital pic for comparison? She almost doesn't look like the same person in those two pictures. You're right Vashley, she does almost look "angelic" (I like that word for her!)
BeavisMom62
08-03-2008, 01:36 PM
Is there a link to more photos that I missed? I don't see any with a bed sheet and bungee cord.
believe09
08-03-2008, 04:17 PM
Thank you Vask!!!!
Would all of you please review two photos with me?
Photo 73-see the brown purse in the back seat upside down next to the shoes? If the black purse in the front passenger seat is LDJ's, then whose is the tan one?
Photo 65-do you see what the tech was photoing? a handprint on the door-frame to the roof...it looks to me like someone grabbed the outside of the doorframe while inside the car...see what I mean???
fmw63
08-03-2008, 05:19 PM
Thank you Vask!!!!
Would all of you please review two photos with me?
Photo 73-see the brown purse in the back seat upside down next to the shoes? If the black purse in the front passenger seat is LDJ's, then whose is the tan one?
Photo 65-do you see what the tech was photoing? a handprint on the door-frame to the roof...it looks to me like someone grabbed the outside of the doorframe while inside the car...see what I mean???
Not sure of your photo numbers, but I think I know which ones you mean:
73 - the brown thing in the back seat is the corner of large brown folding garment bag. Another photo (19730022) shows the whole thing.
65 - or had their hand on the top of the door while getting out of or standing in the door.
PrayersForMaura
08-03-2008, 05:25 PM
thanks for posting.
Wow, the trunk is nearly immaculate!!
Wish my trunk was that clean and i have a mercedes.
How did they get the trunk that clean?
Was it cleaned out after the fact?
Please forgive me as I just started reading about this case. I am way far behind in reading.
I wonder what is those duffle bags? anything belonging to her?
How did she get into that car? Was she a hitchhiker or friends with Lindsey? I need to keep reading. This poor girl! :(
annemc2
08-03-2008, 05:35 PM
I'm with PFM - still waaay behind!
Was this a stolen car? The cleanliness of it and the hats in the back remind me of an old man's car (like my grandpa).
Did somebody already check out the stuff on the pink bag? It looks like a note and maybe an AZ ID on top? I'm not sophisticated enough to enlarge those to see. :blushing:
fmw63
08-03-2008, 05:56 PM
Did somebody already check out the stuff on the pink bag? It looks like a note and maybe an AZ ID on top? I'm not sophisticated enough to enlarge those to see. :blushing:
There's an AZ driver's license, but I tried to enlarge/resample it, but it wasn't clear enough to read.
Zanko
08-03-2008, 06:44 PM
FWIW
Here's what I think the letter says,
Line 1: Now I'm far from
Line 2: ?ing to better
Line 3: ? and I feel
Line 4: further he gets to
Line 5: I (I'm:?) slowly slipping away
Line 6: ?? together
It may be folded in a way that there are key words missing. For example Line 3 to Line 4 most likely is missing the word "the". I'd guess the word missing between line 4 and 5 is "me". Purely speculation: Now I'm far from wanting to better myself and I feel the further he gets to me I'm slowing slipping away.....
believe09
08-03-2008, 06:47 PM
There's an AZ driver's license, but I tried to enlarge/resample it, but it wasn't clear enough to read.
Can you look at the light inside the glove box-looked like blood on it to me...
Zanko
08-03-2008, 07:07 PM
I can't remember now, wasn't there supposed to be pics of her clothes too, or no? I'm thinking now that they were disposed of before pics were taken but not sure. Any other pics to share, fmw? For some reason, I thought that there were more that we were waiting for. Also, can someone put her morgue pic next to her hospital pic for comparison? She almost doesn't look like the same person in those two pictures. You're right Vashley, she does almost look "angelic" (I like that word for her!)
Here are all four pictures of her. WARNING GRAPHIC! Photo contains two hospital photos and two post mortem photos.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
pics deleted
Zanko
08-03-2008, 07:18 PM
Looking at the photos side by side, I realize that the post mortem photos must have been altered to cover the injuries to the forehead. Unless the marks on her forehead aren't injuries. But looking closely at the ME's photos, it appears that there has been some alteration of the photo.
nicknjessesmom
08-03-2008, 07:20 PM
Would you all go back and take another look at her tattoo? My husband says it's not a heart. It's a butterfly.
nicknjessesmom
08-03-2008, 07:28 PM
Looking at the photos side by side, I realize that the post mortem photos must have been altered to cover the injuries to the forehead. Unless the marks on her forehead aren't injuries. But looking closely at the ME's photos, it appears that there has been some alteration of the photo.
I think the marks on her forehead are stains. They follow the same pattern as that brown gunk they have on her in the hospital photos.
I could see a similarity with a butterfly, but homemade tattoos, which this one looks like, depending on how they're done will come out with weird imperfections. My friend used a needle, thread, and indian ink and hand 'stabbed' another friends' tattoo into his skin. The speed at which you 'stab' the ink into them can result in weird details.
Regarding the drivers license.. I'm thinking it's LDJ's because if it was MJD's she would not be a UID.
I don't think it's blood. #19730036 shows an angle of the light where it looks like just scuff marks.
Can you look at the light inside the glove box-looked like blood on it to me...
nicknjessesmom
08-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Yeah. Like that. I could see it just as soon as he said it. I really think he might be right about it. I mean dang...even a jailhouse tat of a heart isn't usually that off balance. But it DOES look like a butterfly now that he pointed it out. The thing is, I've combed thousands of missing girls, and I've disregarded anyone who was listed with other kinds of tattoos, because I just knew she only had that little heart.
Beyond Belief
08-03-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm with PFM - still waaay behind!
Was this a stolen car? The cleanliness of it and the hats in the back remind me of an old man's car (like my grandpa).
Did somebody already check out the stuff on the pink bag? It looks like a note and maybe an AZ ID on top? I'm not sophisticated enough to enlarge those to see. :blushing:
I don't know if someone answered you or not, but there is a carwash receipt in the glove box. Its a receipt that I can only read on the bottom of it,
Thank you come again.
Your Carwash code is 6255
EXp. Date 02/06/99
The car was not stolen, it belonged to Alonzo. I think someone on one of the main threads was even able to get that it had been totaled a few years ago.
Could that be blood on the front, right corner of the seat? I wonder if it was swabbed and tested.
concernedperson
08-03-2008, 10:29 PM
Could that be blood on the front, right corner of the seat? I wonder if it was swabbed and tested.
It is a very odd pic. No seat in front of the wheel just the cloth looking thing with what could be blood. However, until this is a verfied pic of the actual car I have hesitation.
The photos that I trust are the morgue pics and the hospital pics which are truly the same person with a different set of circumstances. Being pre and post mortem.
This child belongs to someone and is a child of the universe. Something very bad happened to her and the fact that she is not identified after all this is very disturbing. Very.
Zanko
08-03-2008, 10:32 PM
What is the LE officer pointing to in this photo? None of the other photos had this "frame of reference" so it made me curious. Any ideas? http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/MJD99305/MJD/19730026.jpg
@Concerned: What do you mean "No seat in front of the wheel just the cloth looking thing with what could be blood"? The stain I'm referring to is on the passenger seat, which is cloth covered.
@Zanko: He might just be holding it in place rather than pointing at something specifically.
An interesting fact though, Cowtown only has stores in 4 states: Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and New Mexico.. oddly enough the only Nevada store is in Las Vegas (where prostitution IS legal mind you). That box however looks unbeaten so I'm willing to bet they bought it at one of the Arizona stores.
http://www.cowtownboots.com/storelist.html
They only sell western wear and Harley shoes mainly, so chances are Alonzo dresses as what's called a "Vaquero" in spanish - pretty much a mexican cowboy.
fmw63
08-03-2008, 11:04 PM
What is the LE officer pointing to in this photo? None of the other photos had this "frame of reference" so it made me curious. Any ideas? http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/MJD99305/MJD/19730026.jpg
That box was up against the rear passenger window. The photo was taken with the door open. Maybe he was just holding it in place with his finger, in the closest original position?
fmw63
08-03-2008, 11:05 PM
Could that be blood on the front, right corner of the seat? I wonder if it was swabbed and tested.
I sent an email asking about that seat. I'll see if I get an answer tomorrow.
Zanko
08-03-2008, 11:07 PM
Thank you FMW63. I was thinking of the photos of the car top with the finger prints. When I first looked at them I almost dismissed them as pictures of the car being "officially" sealed. That's why I was wondering if there was something interesting to see on the photo of the box that maybe I was missing. Guess not.
Thanks!
I sent an email asking about that seat. I'll see if I get an answer tomorrow.
Can you also find out if the prints from the hand mark on the hood of the car (above the right passenger door) matched MJD's by chance?
ArizonaGiGi
08-04-2008, 03:02 AM
Would you all go back and take another look at her tattoo? My husband says it's not a heart. It's a butterfly.
It looks to me like it was a cover up. Maybe she had some initials and didn't want them any more (broke up with the guy?) and tried to cover it up with a butterfly heart. The horizontal line at the bottom looks like maybe an L and the right side of the heart/butterfly is so razor sharp it's unnatural. I'm thinking she tried to cover up initials cause it really doesn't even look like a butterfly OR a heart.
ArizonaGiGi
08-04-2008, 03:05 AM
Could that be blood on the front, right corner of the seat? I wonder if it was swabbed and tested.
Looks like blood to me. Like somebody tried to wipe it clean. Hope LE swabbed it.
BeavisMom62
08-04-2008, 11:08 PM
Looking at the photos side by side, I realize that the post mortem photos must have been altered to cover the injuries to the forehead. Unless the marks on her forehead aren't injuries. But looking closely at the ME's photos, it appears that there has been some alteration of the photo.
ITA, especially the morgue pic with the board next to her face, you can sorta see where the wounds were, but they are blurred out. the other morgue photo, the whole picture is a little blurred so you really can't see where the wounds were.
Fairy1
08-04-2008, 11:48 PM
An interesting fact though, Cowtown only has stores in 4 states: Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and New Mexico.. oddly enough the only Nevada store is in Las Vegas (where prostitution IS legal mind you). That box however looks unbeaten so I'm willing to bet they bought it at one of the Arizona stores.
http://www.cowtownboots.com/storelist.html
They only sell western wear and Harley shoes mainly, so chances are Alonzo dresses as what's called a "Vaquero" in spanish - pretty much a mexican cowboy.
As a Las Vegan - I have to weigh in here!!! Prostitution is NOT legal in Las Vegas - or anywhere else in Clark County. The legal brothels are located in Nye County or further north.
Somehow, I just can't picture Alonzo as a vaquero!
dee10134
08-07-2008, 03:05 PM
FWIW: The ash tray pic has butts from Newport cigarettes in it. Looks like Newport 100s. I used to smoke them but switched to Winston Lights a few years ago and quit entirely 2 years ago. From the position of the butts in the ashtray, I'd say LDJ is a cigarette smoker. She also may have been smoking the cigarettes to try clearing the air of the weed smell.
I don't know how or if this helps, but I wanted to put it out there... lol.
jen_renee
08-10-2008, 12:27 AM
Hey everyone. Someone, I can't remember who, asked for someone to try to fix up the hospital picture. I thought I would give it a try, and here's what I came up with. It's not my best work, those tubes were tricky.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
phenolred
08-11-2008, 08:58 AM
Hey everyone. Someone, I can't remember who, asked for someone to try to fix up the hospital picture. I thought I would give it a try, and here's what I came up with. It's not my best work, those tubes were tricky.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg
I think that was me, and you did an EXCELLENT JOB, I think this really shows how she looked......except for the swelling of the lips, BUT I think YOU DID GREAT
jen_renee
08-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Thanks!
phenolred
08-18-2008, 01:38 PM
This picture just shows how STUPID Alonzo is he had 20 miles to get rid of stuff and he still has his Joint placed nicely and blatantly in the ashtray. In full view of the police, was he busy getting rid of other things and overlooked getting rid of the weed. Of maybe the weed has effected his judgement and he is a "slow"
Cubby
08-18-2008, 03:05 PM
That looks like a few roaches in there..... I'm quite certain weed was the last thing on alonzo/Bill's mind. I can't help but wonder what else they might have been using besides dope and beer.
phenolred
08-18-2008, 03:23 PM
My vote is PCP
Cubby
08-18-2008, 03:42 PM
Very well could be Phen'.
OT- but for some strange reason your last post got me thinking to the days when marijuana was sold as "nickels", "dimes" and "lids". I think that ages myself.
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