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christine2448
03-13-2008, 10:52 AM
Please post here anyone you think may be a match to this Jane Doe.

christine2448
03-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Got this tip on myspace, haven't looked at it yet.




Subject: RE: MySpacers work together to try and solve mystery
Body: It's ironic that you posted this. I've been awake all night trying to find a match. Here is what I came up with:
NCMC1046107
or
NCMC852270
or
NCIC #: M-947561205

christine2448
03-13-2008, 05:21 PM
Names that I recall mentioned as possible matches over the last year on this and other forums that I personally haven't checked out yet:

Heather Lindsay Silver. She went missing from St Mary's Hospital in Tucson, AZ, September 12, 1997. RULED OUT


Stephanie Condon. Missing since October 30, 1998 from Myrtle Creek, Oregon. Her date of birth is Octobber 4, 1984, she was 16 when she disappeared under suspicious circumstances. Her hair color and jaw line seems identical to our gal in AZ. Her case number is NCMC855808 RULED OUT

christine2448
03-13-2008, 05:22 PM
RULED OUT
Oops, found reply on Heather Silver from AZ ME:


I got an email from the ME this morning:


Subject: RE: Case Number 99-0305


Someone did suggest Heather Silver as a lead, so that is being looked into already by police.

Thank you very much for inquiring!
Suzi

christine2448
03-13-2008, 05:23 PM
Another message from myspace person who was trying to help with this. She sent Michaela's mom photos of Jane Doe and all info:

Michaela's mom doesn't think that this is Michaela. So far I think she's only looked at the two available composite drawings and not the actual post-mortem pictures.

She did mention that LE already has their DNA, so I would assume that perhaps it's already been checked against this Jane Doe? I don't want to push this..

eta Michaela RULED OUT

christine2448
03-13-2008, 05:23 PM
and another:

I heard from Michaela's mom again. She did look at the post-mortem pic and doesn't see a resemblance. I can't imagine how that would be to take a look at someone that might be your daughter.. she has to be pretty strong indeed!

As I said, LE has the DNA and at this point, since she doesn't believe it's her, I am not pursuing this lead. Perhaps something will come out of the efforts by the folks at Attempt to Identify. I just read their update and it appears they've met with some success.

absinthe
04-29-2008, 04:25 PM
Case File 813DFAZ RULED OUT

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/DPitcher.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/DPitcher2.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/DPitcher1.jpg
Left: Pitcher, circa 1993; Right: Age-progression at age 27 (circa 2006)
Danielle Therese Pitcher
Missing since May 23, 1993 from Sunizona, Cochise County, Arizona.
Classification: Lost, Injured, Missing


Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: March 11, 1979
Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'1"; 112 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes
Clothing: White tank top, white shorts, black boots with a heel.

These are young pictures, but I think the facial structure is similar. The Arizona connection doesn't hurt, either.

believe09
04-29-2008, 04:37 PM
Case File 813DFAZ RULED OUT

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/DPitcher.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/DPitcher2.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/DPitcher1.jpg
Left: Pitcher, circa 1993; Right: Age-progression at age 27 (circa 2006)
Danielle Therese Pitcher
Missing since May 23, 1993 from Sunizona, Cochise County, Arizona.
Classification: Lost, Injured, Missing


Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: March 11, 1979
Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'1"; 112 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes
Clothing: White tank top, white shorts, black boots with a heel.

These are young pictures, but I think the facial structure is similar. The Arizona connection doesn't hurt, either.

All of this would work for me if it weren't for the height. I cannot speak for other's, but most of my height was achieved by the time I was 13-I grew maybe another two inches until I was 16, and I am 5'7". The early newspaper reports from when she was rescued to when she died reported that she was 5'7" I believe...what does everyone else think? Also, this DOB puts mJD closer to 20, and I really feel she was younger....JMO.

absinthe
04-29-2008, 04:49 PM
The ME's site says that she was 5'4"..

absinthe
04-29-2008, 04:55 PM
The Doe Network:
Case File 1438DFBLR

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/ESoldatova.jpg
Soldatova, circa 1995
Elena Evgenyevna Soldatova
Missing since March 22, 1995 from Minsk, Belarus.
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: November 23, 1977
Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 165-168 cm
Distinguishing Characteristics: Red dyed hair; blue eyes. Oval face; thin build. She looked like 23-25 years old at the time of her disappearance. She had her hair straight, short and dyed red. Shoe size 37-38 european.Here's another one who looks like MJD, though probably is too old. Again, that oval Slavic face shape is so prominent.

absinthe
04-29-2008, 05:56 PM
The Doe Network:
Case File 1868DFMI

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/CPHall.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/CPHall1.jpg
Right: Age-progressed to 18 years
Coral Pearl Hall
Missing since September 22, 1998 from Flint, Genesee County, Michigan
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: September 21, 1984
Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 4'11" (150 cm); 85 lbs (39 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
Marks, Scars: She has a scar on the lower part of her neck.I think that Coral Hall has been mentioned before, but I didn't see her on the ME's excluded list.

VASHLEY88
04-29-2008, 05:56 PM
JESSICA CLICK-HILL
http://www.missingkids.com/photographs/NCMC810767c1.jpg
DOB: Sep 29, 1987
Missing: Sep 2, 1995
Age Now: 20
Sex: Female
Race: White
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Height: 4'0" (122 cm)
Weight: 60 lbs (27 kg)
Missing From:
REDLANDS
CA
United States






Has she been ruled out as a possibility?... The chin looks so similar..

absinthe
04-29-2008, 06:17 PM
I believe Jessica was submitted previously by Lorelei (as was Coral)..they are 2 of the very few possibles that are not on the excluded list.

Fairy1
04-29-2008, 10:33 PM
The Doe Network:
Case File 1438DFBLR

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/ESoldatova.jpg
Soldatova, circa 1995
Elena Evgenyevna Soldatova
Missing since March 22, 1995 from Minsk, Belarus.
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: November 23, 1977
Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 165-168 cm
Distinguishing Characteristics: Red dyed hair; blue eyes. Oval face; thin build. She looked like 23-25 years old at the time of her disappearance. She had her hair straight, short and dyed red. Shoe size 37-38 european.Here's another one who looks like MJD, though probably is too old. Again, that oval Slavic face shape is so prominent.



WOW! She may seem too "old" - but she looks soooooo much like MJD! She disappeared on a trip to Russia. It's not too much of a stretch to think she may have ended up in some prostitution ring that does business in the US, is it? Ahhhhhhhhhh! If only we knew if the %^*(*&(*&#* in the car with her said she had an accent.

Cubby
04-30-2008, 12:00 AM
The Doe Network:
Case File 1438DFBLR

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/ESoldatova.jpg
Soldatova, circa 1995
Elena Evgenyevna Soldatova
Missing since March 22, 1995 from Minsk, Belarus.
Classification: Missing


Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: November 23, 1977
Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 165-168 cm
Distinguishing Characteristics: Red dyed hair; blue eyes. Oval face; thin build. She looked like 23-25 years old at the time of her disappearance. She had her hair straight, short and dyed red. Shoe size 37-38 european.
Here's another one who looks like MJD, though probably is too old. Again, that oval Slavic face shape is so prominent.



Wow, she really does resemble MJD. Though, I want to mention something, I think the fullness on MJD's face is due to swelling from the accident. If you look only at the left side of her face, right for us viewing pics, it does appear that she would have had more of a narrow face.

I did a pic just copying her left half and copying it over to the other side.

From photo suite... which I don't know how to use too well.

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg

Fairy1
04-30-2008, 12:19 AM
Wow, she really does resemble MJD. Though, I want to mention something, I think the fullness on MJD's face is due to swelling from the accident. If you look only at the left side of her face, right for us viewing pics, it does appear that she would have had more of a narrow face.

I did a pic just copying her left half and copying it over to the other side.

From photo suite... which I don't know how to use too well.


http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg


I have tried to take the swelling into consideration when looking for possible matches - just concentrating on the right side of her face, eyebrows and her nose. But when I saw Elana's pic - I saw the BEST resemblance so far of any pic we've seen here. And...I have looked a every possible missing girl in every state for years back and have not come up with any possibles.

OT a little - has anyone noticed that the Doe Network does not seem to have posted any missing females past 1999? I've noticed that in looking for MJD - among others. It's disturbing to me. I use the Charley Project quite a bit also because I find it to be more "user friendly" for searches. But if the Doe Network isn't up to date, I would prefer not to use it. I've seen plenty of cases where missing people were not actually reported missing until quite some time after the fact. That could apply to our MJD - or anyone else for that matter!

Cubby
04-30-2008, 01:06 AM
I have tried to take the swelling into consideration when looking for possible matches - just concentrating on the right side of her face, eyebrows and her nose. But when I saw Elana's pic - I saw the BEST resemblance so far of any pic we've seen here. And...I have looked a every possible missing girl in every state for years back and have not come up with any possibles.

OT a little - has anyone noticed that the Doe Network does not seem to have posted any missing females past 1999? I've noticed that in looking for MJD - among others. It's disturbing to me. I use the Charley Project quite a bit also because I find it to be more "user friendly" for searches. But if the Doe Network isn't up to date, I would prefer not to use it. I've seen plenty of cases where missing people were not actually reported missing until quite some time after the fact. That could apply to our MJD - or anyone else for that matter!


Newer missing persons cases at Doe are listed at their sister organization, NAMPN. Click on the blue box for the sister organization.

Fairy1
04-30-2008, 01:12 AM
Newer missing persons cases at Doe are listed at their sister organization, NAMPN. Click on the blue box for the sister organization.

Thanks - I do search there as well. I just wish there was better cross-referencing with these sites!

Fairy1
04-30-2008, 02:09 AM
I have sent Elena's posting to Maricopa - just in case.

VASHLEY88
04-30-2008, 02:18 AM
Wow, she really does resemble MJD. Though, I want to mention something, I think the fullness on MJD's face is due to swelling from the accident. If you look only at the left side of her face, right for us viewing pics, it does appear that she would have had more of a narrow face.

I did a pic just copying her left half and copying it over to the other side.

From photo suite... which I don't know how to use too well.

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg



Hmmm.. I never did really take that into consideration (the swelling), thanks for posting this. Wow, MJD does bare a striking resemblance to some of these foreign girls.. I am hoping that maybe she did come from another country and her family didn't think to look in the US.. someone has GOT to be missing this beautiful girl..

JinxieJada
04-30-2008, 10:19 AM
is there a database for people that are missing internationally? Or would we have to search country by country? I know people usually run to somewhere other than the US, but could it a parental custody dispute thing and someone felt they could NOT report her missing? Mail Order Bride?

absinthe
04-30-2008, 11:56 AM
I have sent Elena's posting to Maricopa - just in case.


Thanks Fairy.

Yes, Vashley, I really get the feeling that she is Eastern European. It is difficult for me to convey the tens of thousands of young girls from former Eastern bloc countries who are tricked/kidnapped/go willingly into foreign prostitution. If I didn't have roots in Europe myself, I would never believe the extent of the phenomenon.

Fairy1
04-30-2008, 12:12 PM
Thanks Fairy.

Yes, Vashley, I really get the feeling that she is Eastern European. It is difficult for me to convey the tens of thousands of young girls from former Eastern bloc countries who are tricked/kidnapped/go willingly into foreign prostitution. If I didn't have roots in Europe myself, I would never believe the extent of the phenomenon.

I totally agree absinthe - and it sure would explain a lot with regard to this particular case.

BTW - when I submitted Elena's info to the Maricopa investigators, I also asked if we can have access to the police and ME's reports. Might not get very far with that request - but it doesn't hurt to ask!

absinthe
04-30-2008, 12:24 PM
I totally agree absinthe - and it sure would explain a lot with regard to this particular case.

BTW - when I submitted Elena's info to the Maricopa investigators, I also asked if we can have access to the police and ME's reports. Might not get very far with that request - but it doesn't hurt to ask!


Call me a conspiracy theorist, but sometimes I think that LE may be so tight-lipped about this case because they may have stumbled onto something big.

VASHLEY88
04-30-2008, 01:11 PM
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but sometimes I think that LE may be so tight-lipped about this case because they may have stumbled onto something big.

Yes, I agree completely.

Also, I looked up the origin of the surname "DeJong", and it is Dutch, which would be Slavic, right? Maybe there is a linking between Lindsay DeJong and MJD?..

VASHLEY88
04-30-2008, 01:20 PM
And maybe Lindsay was never questioned because her English wasn't very good.. and not a lot of people can translate those types of languages...

absinthe
04-30-2008, 01:36 PM
Yes, I agree completely.

Also, I looked up the origin of the surname "DeJong", and it is Dutch, which would be Slavic, right? Maybe there is a linking between Lindsay DeJong and MJD?..

The Netherlands is not a Slavic country, but it certainly has an infamous prostitution industry. Good sleuthing!

VASHLEY88
04-30-2008, 01:36 PM
You know, I was reading up on prostitution in the Netherlands, and it's legal there.. they have sex trafficking in a lot of other European countries, and the legal age of consent in the Netherlands is 16, probably pretty close to how old our MJD was.

I could be off the wall here, but I felt it was worth looking into since L. DeJong has a very common Dutch surname..

VASHLEY88
04-30-2008, 01:38 PM
The Netherlands is not a Slavic country, but it certainly has an infamous prostitution industry. Good sleuthing!

yes, I figured that out :bang:

VASHLEY88
05-03-2008, 01:15 AM
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/GetImage.asp?FIN=331193 (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/GetImage.asp?FIN=331193) Age Progressed to age 19 Additional Images of Child (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/mcicsearch/%5CMCICSearch%5CFlyerAddImages.asp?type=person&Id=90213) Printable Format (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/mcicsearch/%5CMCICSearch%5CFlyerPrintableFormat.asp?Case_Id=2 5149) http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/images/MCIClogoNew.jpg Florida Department of Law Enforcement
Missing Children Information Clearinghouse http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/images/Smallbadge.jpg MISSING CHILD
PARENTAL ABDUCTION LINDSAY MARIE JOHNSON Date Missing: 2/5/1994 Missing From: Fairfax,VA County: Birth Date: 5/14/1988 Age Disappeared: 5 yrs 8 months Height: 4' 00" Race: White Hair: Blonde Weight: 055 Sex: Female Eyes: Blue Narrative: The children may be in the company of their non-custodial mother and are believed to be in Florida.
(http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/FlyerNewPerson.asp?Case_Id=25149&Person_Id=90249&Title=MISSING%20CHILD)

believe09
05-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Voluntary missing (probably) from Missouri, Brown hair, blue eyes, Dob would have put her around 16 1/2

http://www.find-missing-children.org/Posters/poster344.htm RULED OUT

I like the full lips and the coloring...the teeth would be a give away right away I think because of the front ones....

believe09
05-03-2008, 10:25 AM
She was a family abduction from Mission Villejo in 1987, DOB 1983.

http://www.find-missing-children.org/Posters/poster RULED OUT

Auburnmommyof2
05-03-2008, 11:03 AM
Voluntary missing (probably) from Missouri, Brown hair, blue eyes, Dob would have put her around 16 1/2

http://www.find-missing-children.org/Posters/poster344.htmRULED OUT


I like the full lips and the coloring...the teeth would be a give away right away I think because of the front ones....
Found this about her also. She looks a lot like MJD to me.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hayson_racheal.htmlRULED OUT

Angie4b1g
05-11-2008, 12:15 PM
Wow that last one looks like it could be a match. The height is way off, but that could be a mistake. Easy enough to check the teeth and the ear piercings.

believe09
05-11-2008, 12:22 PM
Wow that last one looks like it could be a match. The height is way off, but that could be a mistake. Easy enough to check the teeth and the ear piercings.

:blowkiss:

Did we call or send this one in? i can't remember, lol. MJD height is listed at both 5'4" and 5'7", right? Racheal went missing when she was 14...now I know that I grew another inch or two between 14 and 16, so the 5'3" height for her could have been accurate for 1997...

Angie4b1g
05-11-2008, 08:58 PM
I think we can rule out Lindsay Johnson - unless I'm reading that wrong. If her DOB was 1988, she'd only have been 11 in 1999.

Angie4b1g
06-11-2008, 12:44 PM
Did we check this one?

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=888706&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_USRULED OUT

absinthe
06-11-2008, 12:59 PM
Did we check this one?

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=888706&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US


MJD died in Jan of 1999.

Angie4b1g
06-11-2008, 01:34 PM
I thought it was August, I must be on crack today. LOL

absinthe
06-11-2008, 01:36 PM
S'ok!

Angie4b1g
06-11-2008, 02:15 PM
Is it possibly they just didn't report her missing until later? 5 months seems like a long time to wait, but who knows.

(it does say she was scheduled to attend classes May 19 and reported missing when she didn't show up, so I guess not)

kaylenbabysims
06-11-2008, 02:52 PM
I thought it was August, I must be on crack today. LOL

LOL :Banane37:

if ya find someone ya really think might be a possible it might not be a bad idea to dig up more info.. I noticed some sites have different information .. and sometimes the dates could be off if they waited a long time to report them missing... or someone could of entered something wrong

Angie4b1g
06-11-2008, 04:58 PM
It's just one disappointment after another. I was almost convinced it was Sara Bushland. I wonder HOW they ruled her out. Hmm. I guess if it was DNA I fold, but otherwise I'm not giving up hope on her! LOL

kaas
06-11-2008, 05:10 PM
Greetings to the websleuths members. I have been a lurker for some time and been amazed at the caring and credible posters.
I would so like to see this girl be identified. I have not seen listed Jaycee Dugard as a nonmatch. Her listing with the National Center for Missing Kids is here http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=755248&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_USRULED OUT

believe09
06-11-2008, 05:12 PM
LOL :Banane37:

if ya find someone ya really think might be a possible it might not be a bad idea to dig up more info.. I noticed some sites have different information .. and sometimes the dates could be off if they waited a long time to report them missing... or someone could of entered something wrong

I ditto this thought!!!! There have been all kinds of cases where the missing date was later than thought...

kaas
06-14-2008, 11:51 AM
RULED OUT I have attempted a side by side of Jaycee Dugard, (her age progressed photo) with the photo of MJD as well as one of Jaycee from when she went missing to the composite of MJD. Does anyone else see the similarity? I am very new at this so please be kind. LOL


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http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/84/ncmc755248c1ta0.th.jpg (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ncmc755248c1ta0.jpg)http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg[URL="http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mjdnt6.jpg"]

believe09
06-14-2008, 12:04 PM
check out the amount of discussion she has generated on the web; What I find curious about her abduction is the age of the female perp listed for 1991: Approx 32 years of age....WTH? How do you come up with that age unless you have an idea who the woman is....JMO

My understanding is that Jaycee's step-father pursued the vehicle on a bicycle until the car got away from him....

She had a gap in her front teeth and a chicken pox scar on her forehead, so I would think she could also be ruled pretty easily against MJD.

Zanko
06-28-2008, 10:28 AM
RULED OUT She was a family abduction from Mission Villejo in 1987, DOB 1983.

http://www.find-missing-children.org/Posters/poster157c2.htm

I think Lisa's composite is very similar to our MJD. It would also make sense that mom wouldn't come forward because she would have another child she needed to hide. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z99/Zanko123/CompareZahariasMJD.jpg

dee10134
07-03-2008, 12:29 PM
I don't see Jennifer Rae Perry mentioned as a possible. I recall that MJD was going on a trek with Alonzo and Lindsay to Florida. Jennifer Perry is from Florida. The jawline is very similar to MJD's, as are the ears:

JENNIFER RAE PERRY Age Progression Case Type: Endangered Runaway DOB: Feb 18, 1980 Sex: Female Missing Date: Jul 30, 1993 Race: White Age Now: 28 Height: 5'5" (165 cm) Missing City: MONROE COUNTY Weight: 110 lbs (50 kg) Missing State : FL Hair Color: Black Missing Country: United States Eye Color: Blue Case Number: NCMC783071
Circumstances: Jennifer's photo is shown age-progressed to 25 years. She is a habitual runaway. She may have dyed her hair blonde. Her eyes are dark blue.
http://www.missingkids.com/photographs/NCMC783071e1.jpghttp://www.missingkids.com/photographs/NCMC783071c1.jpg
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=783071&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

dee10134
07-03-2008, 12:34 PM
Jennifer Jane Hughes

ttp://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet? (http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?)

http://www.missingkids.com/photographs/NCMC893308c1.jpg http://www.missingkids.com/photographs/NCMC893308e1.jpg View Poster (http://javascript<b></b>:MM_openBrWindow('/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=893308&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US', 'Poster', 'alwaysRaised=yes,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes,too lbar=no,location=yes,menubar=yes,status=yes'))
Case Handled By:http://www.missingkids.com/orglogos/NCMC_en_US.gif National Center for Missing & Exploited ChildrenJENNIFER JANE HUGHESAge Progression Case Type: Lost, Injured, Missing DOB: Jan 9, 1979Sex: FemaleMissing Date: Dec 1, 1996Race: WhiteAge Now: 29Height: 5'2" (157 cm)Missing City: FAYETTEVILLEWeight: 110 lbs (50 kg)Missing State : NCHair Color: RedMissing Country: United StatesEye Color: BlueCase Number: NCMC893308Circumstances: Jennifer's photo is shown age-progressed to 28 years. She may be in the company of family members who have also been reported missing. They have all been missing since December 1, 1996.act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=893308&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

dee10134
07-03-2008, 12:37 PM
RULED OUTJessie Kay Peters?

JESSIE KAY PETERS Age Progression Case Type: Endangered Missing DOB: Jul 29, 1981 Sex: Female Missing Date: Mar 29, 1996 Race: White Age Now: 26 Height: 5'4" (163 cm) Missing City: GLENDORA Weight: 110 lbs (50 kg) Missing State : CA Hair Color: Blonde Missing Country: United States Eye Color: Blue Case Number: NCMC817080
Circumstances: Jessie's photo is shown aged to 23 years. She may still be in the area. She may have dyed her hair dark brown and may no longer have braces on her teeth. She may be traveling with an adult male companion.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=817080&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

ETA: Nevermind, Jessie's been ruled out per the Ruled Out thread...

dee10134
07-03-2008, 12:39 PM
RULED OUTKimberly Riley: height is off, but it's possible:

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1077218&orgPrefix=NCMA&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_USKIMBERLY RILEY
Case Type: Missing DOB: Dec 12, 1979 Sex: Female Missing Date: Dec 23, 1998 Race: White Age Now: 28 Height: 5'2" (157 cm) Missing City: LORAIN Weight: 122 lbs (55 kg) Missing State : OH Hair Color: Blonde Missing Country: United States Eye Color: Blue Case Number: NCMA1077218
Circumstances: Kimberly was last seen wearing gold hoop earrings and a gold chain necklace. She has scars on her forehead and on her abdomen. Kimberly has a mole on her neck.

ETA: Nevermind, Kimberly's also been ruled out per the Ruled Out thread...

Cymro
07-05-2008, 12:05 PM
Juanita Jean Nelson

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2211dfca.html

A lot doesn't fit about this one: she's a little too old (but just within the range and looks young IMO), and there is already a suspect in the disappearance. In addition, I can't see that a 17-year-old girl would gain any advantage in saying to others that she was 15 if she were looking to live independently, even (especially?) on the streets.

Against that, height and weight match exactly, I can't see that she's been ruled out, the timescale matches Doe's arrival in Phoenix and she looks a heck of a lot like her.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/JJNelson.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/JJNelson1.jpg

Date Of Birth: June 27, 1981
Age at Time of Disappearance: 17 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 120 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: Tattoo on inside of ankle, belly pierced, breast pierced.
Clothing: White quilted jacket, green pants.
Dentals: Not available. An upper front tooth is angled inward, making it look as though she is missing a tooth.

Juanita has not been seen or heard from since December 14, 1998.
When she disappeared, she was a San Lorenzo Valley High School senior, leaving behind most of her possessions including her purse and identification
The investigation centers on a friend of Nelson’s who allegedly told two of his friends he killed her and dumped her body in the Santa Cruz Mountains. Police believe the car involved has been destroyed.

Zanko
07-05-2008, 05:28 PM
She does look a lot like her. I'm not so concerned about the age, since it was only reported by one individual that MJD supposedly tried to get a job as a stripper and claimed her age to be 15. But Juanita has brown eyes, MJD had blue eyes. Plus it would be unlikely that her ankle tattoo would be missed or the breast piercing.

VASHLEY88
07-05-2008, 10:09 PM
She does look a lot like her. I'm not so concerned about the age, since it was only reported by one individual that MJD supposedly tried to get a job as a stripper and claimed her age to be 15. But Juanita has brown eyes, MJD had blue eyes. Plus it would be unlikely that her ankle tattoo would be missed or the breast piercing.

I wonder if clouding of the corneas made her eyes appear blue? Although I'm sure that's unlikely as she was probably not deceased for very long prior to being taken to the morgue. Anyway, I highly, highly doubt they would have missed a tattoo or piercing, although I didn't see her navel ring stated. She does look very much like her, though.

VASHLEY88
07-06-2008, 12:32 AM
RULED OUThttp://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822441&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US



Has she been considered?.. I forget. She looks a little too dark complected though..

lorelei
07-06-2008, 01:04 AM
RULED OUThttp://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822441&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US



Has she been considered?.. I forget. She looks a little too dark complected though..


I am pretty sure Trudy Appleby was ruled out with DNA testing (its posted on the eliminated thread I think?). She is not on the Maricopa ME's list from what I can tell, but Christine posted an email from Moline LE that said she was ruled out.

Julessleuther
07-06-2008, 02:32 AM
What about Stephanie Benton? She is from Bullhead City, AZ.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=801778&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

or Cayce (sounds similar to Cory) McDaniel

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822496&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

or Andrea Parsons (similar facial/eye brow shape and from Florida!)
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=781548&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Teresa Larson
07-06-2008, 04:09 AM
What about Stephanie Benton? She is from Bullhead City, AZ.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=801778&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

or Cayce (sounds similar to Cory) McDaniel

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822496&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

or Andrea Parsons (similar facial/eye brow shape and from Florida!)
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=781548&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

IMO I do not think these girls look anything like MJD :)

believe09
07-06-2008, 09:44 AM
What about Stephanie Benton? She is from Bullhead City, AZ. (brown eyes and age)

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=801778&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

or Cayce (sounds similar to Cory) McDaniel (tattoo on her butt)

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822496&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

or Andrea Parsons (similar facial/eye brow shape and from Florida!) (her eyes look brown to me, but I think she might be worth checking...)
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=781548&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

These are my bold and italics with comments-what are everyone else's thoughts?

Julessleuther
07-06-2008, 05:42 PM
OMG. I must have been really tired last night. I was looking ONLY for brown an hazel eyed girls. There were two that looked so much like MJD, but I discounted them because they had blue eyes. I will go back and search for them again and post them...


These are my bold and italics with comments-what are everyone else's thoughts?

Julessleuther
07-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Ok--How about these:

Trudy Appleby (similar nose and jaw line)RULED OUT
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822441&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Jessie Kay PetersRULED OUT
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=817080&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Elsa Wind
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=775816&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Kacey Perry
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=745166&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Zanko
07-06-2008, 05:57 PM
Ok--How about these:

Trudy Appleby (similar nose and jaw line)RULED OUT
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822441&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Jessie Kay PetersRULED OUT
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=817080&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Elsa Wind
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=775816&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Kacey Perry
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=745166&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Jessie was a definite rule out.

absinthe
07-06-2008, 06:10 PM
I think Trudy looks like MJD.

believe09
07-06-2008, 06:10 PM
RULED OUTEtakerina Shcherbakova-there is a good chance she is alive, I believe.
RULED OUTJaycee Dugard-chicken pox scar between her eyes, gap in her front teeth, butterfly birthmark on her arm, moles on her back
RULED OUTAmber Crum-convicted child serial killer David Penton allegedly made statements to cellmates indicating he kidnapped and killed her.
RULED OUTMelissa McGuinn-worth checking-possibly sold to a couple who could not have a child.
RULED OUTLisa Zaharias-family abduction so might not have been reported as missing by mom, but would have been 13 in 1999
RULED OUTHeather Silver-DOB 1979, scar on cheek, birthmark on cheek
RULED OUTMichaela Garecht-we know how everyone feels about this one, lol! Mother states no way however.
RULED OUTAmber Jean Swartz Garcia-severely hearing impaired and needed a hearing aid at the time of her abduction. Suffered from migraines and dizziness which would make her nauseous.
RULED OUTJennifer Shawn Vagher-DOB 1979, already 18 when she went missing from Lubbock Texas in 1998...worth checking I think.
RULED OUTShannon Marie Sherrill-DOB 1980, 4 inch scar running across her abdomen
RULED OUTMonique Daniels-DOB 1976, auburn hair not brown, chipped incisor, mole on upper lip
RULED OUTKaelin Glazier-body was located 4/08

I added some of the information sleuthers had turned up already which was buried in the discussion thread....

believe09
07-06-2008, 06:11 PM
I think Trudy looks like MJD.

Trudy was ruled out via DNA comparison-Christine had confirmation from Trudy's LE contact...I agree btw.

believe09
07-06-2008, 06:44 PM
Ok--How about these:

RULED OUT Trudy Appleby (similar nose and jaw line)
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822441&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

RULED OUT Jessie Kay Peters-Michael Thornton and Janeen Snyder are suspected of her murder and of dumping her body off of Dana point.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=817080&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Elsa Wind-pierced nose, possibly pregnant
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=775816&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Kacey Perry-Mom's boyfriend confessed to killing her, then recanted.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=745166&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

My bold and italics...

believe09
07-06-2008, 06:56 PM
http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/index.ssf/2008/04/sightings_of_coral_hall_missin.html

Two independent representatives made reports to police that Coral and another girl missing from Ohio were staying in a motel in Indiana 5 years after she first went missing. The people who saw her apparently id'd her from the very distinctive scar on her neck...

VASHLEY88
07-28-2008, 01:00 AM
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200301625W

A little too old, and the eye color is off.. but you never know.. I understand that this one is highly DOUBTFUL, though.


Dana Elaine Becker

http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/becker_dana.jpg
Above: Becker, circa 2000
http://www.charleyproject.org/banners/bar.jpg
Vital Statistics at Time of DisappearanceMissing Since: July 17, 2000 from Phoenix, Arizona
Classification: Endangered Missing
Date Of Birth: February 10, 1966
Age: 34 years old
Height and Weight: 5'1, 82 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Blonde hair, hazel or green eyes. Becker dyes her hair; she is naturally a brunette. She has a scar under chin and a deep scar on her right leg just below the knee. She wears glasses. Becker may use the alias last names Griffin, Harcourt, Mays, or Thompson.
Clothing/Jewelry Description: A silver pinky ring.
Medical Conditions: Becker needs medication for unspecified reasons.

http://www.charleyproject.org/banners/bar.jpg
Details of DisappearanceBecker was last seen by friends on July 17, 2000, in the vicinity of 67th Avenue and Indian School Road in Phoenix, Arizona. She usually travels in drug circles. Becker has never been heard from again. The circumstances of her disappearance are unclear.
http://www.charleyproject.org/banners/bar.jpg
Investigating Agency
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Phoenix Police Department
602-262-6141 http://www.charleyproject.org/banners/bar.jpg

Fairy1
07-28-2008, 02:21 AM
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200301625W

A little too old, and the eye color is off.. but you never know.. I understand that this one is highly DOUBTFUL, though.

A wee bit more info here:


http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/becker_dana.html

christine2448
07-28-2008, 02:36 AM
Ok--How about these:

Trudy Appleby (similar nose and jaw line)
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=822441&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Ruled out...here is thread with rule outs. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61834)


Trudy Applebee

Hi Christine. I was the person that responded to your email. Sgt. Titus is my supervisor in charge of that case. He informed me that he has already been in touch with Maricopa County and our DNA in regard to Trudy did not match with their victim. Thank you for you assistance though. It is appreciated. You sound like a very dedicated citizen.



Captain Greg Heist

Moline Police Department

Fairy1
07-29-2008, 12:29 AM
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200301625W

A little too old, and the eye color is off.. but you never know.. I understand that this one is highly DOUBTFUL, though.

I can get past the eye color, the age, the timing and the implied drug use. But Dana is so tiny! It seems hard to believe that her "loved ones" could have been off 5 - 7 inches and 30 - 40 pounds.

Cymro
07-29-2008, 06:36 PM
Height is only 3" or so and the weight is probably the effect of heroin :(

However I can't get past the age, timing or drug use - Dana to me is what MJD might have become, perhaps even by now, had she lived a little longer.

Fairy1
07-30-2008, 01:10 AM
Height is only 3" or so and the weight is probably the effect of heroin :(

However I can't get past the age, timing or drug use - Dana to me is what MJD might have become, perhaps even by now, had she lived a little longer.

:mad::mad::mad:

Vask
07-31-2008, 09:57 PM
Came across this girl today. I don't like the age though - she would've only been 11 in Jan 1999.

The Doe Network:
Case File 1073DFCA

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/CATymich.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/CATymich2.jpg
*Bigger versions @ the missingkids link*

Crystal Ann Tymich
Missing since June 30, 1994 from Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing

* Date Of Birth: September 23, 1987
* Age at Time of Disappearance: 6 years old
* Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 4' 0" - 122 cm; 60 lbs - 27 kg
* Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Dark blonde hair; hazel eyes.
* Clothing: She was last seen wearing a pink T-shirt, shorts with a floral print and tennis shoes with a picture of a mermaid.
* Dentals: X-rays are available.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1073dfca.html

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=792466&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Vask
07-31-2008, 10:24 PM
The Doe Network:
Case File 170DFTN

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/MChildress.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/MChildress1.jpg http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/MChildress2.jpg

Marlena Danyele Childress
Missing since April 16, 1987 from Union City, Obion County, Tennessee.
Classification: Non-Family Abduction

# Date Of Birth: February 17, 1983
# Age at Time of Disappearance: 4 years old
# Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 4'0; 38 pounds
# Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Light brown straight hair; blue / hazel eyes.
# Marks, Scars: Pierced ears.
# Clothing: Light purple pants, a purple and white shirt and pink jelly-style shoes.
# Dentals: She has silver caps on upper and lower front teeth.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/170dftn.html

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=600739&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Aphra
08-01-2008, 12:14 AM
Geez. That poor girl. Her mother doesn't seem to have a very good track record with children!:furious:

ETA: I still think that Therese Vanderheiden should be looked into:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vanderheiden-walsh_therese.html

Teresa Larson
08-01-2008, 05:32 AM
I haven't seen any resemblance of MJD in any of the pictures posted as a possibility Not even close :-(

Vask
08-01-2008, 02:05 PM
I figured it was worth a shot. Both children were taken at a young age so all we have to go on are 'hunches' on what she might look like based on a forensic artists idea.

shadowangel
08-01-2008, 05:05 PM
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg http://www.nampn.org/cases/images/biggs_mikelle1.jpg

MJD; Mikelle Diane Biggs

(An actual side-by-side of these two to scale highlights the similarities much more effectively, but as I'm computer-challenged I'll leave that to the others)

I don't actually believe these two cases are related, as Mikelle was only 11 at the time she disappeared, is listed as just under 5' tall and weighing some 85 pounds. However, the physical similarities are interesting to note, as are their stories.

When compared at the same scale, face structure is remarkably similar (chin line, nose, bridge width and shape, spacing between eyes, etc).

Mikelle went missing 24 days before MJD was found. Mikelle mysteriously vanished from a street near her home in Mesa, AZ (a suburb of Phoenix in Maricopa County). She and her sister thought they heard the sound of an ice cream truck, borrowed money from their mother and went in search of the truck. Mikelle's sister, feeling cold, returned home for a coat. Mikelle's mother sent the girl back for Mikelle, but she was gone. An intensive search revealed no solid clues, no suspects were developed.

Vask
08-01-2008, 05:22 PM
Depends on whether or not Mikelle's DNA and fingerprints were entered into the system by the time MJD was found, but I think if it was Mikelle it would've red flagged almost immediately since her disappearance was so fresh.

christine2448
08-07-2008, 07:06 PM
Got this tip on myspace, haven't looked at it yet.




Subject: RE: MySpacers work together to try and solve mystery
Body: It's ironic that you posted this. I've been awake all night trying to find a match. Here is what I came up with:
NCMC1046107
or
NCMC852270
or
NCIC #: M-947561205

I need to see who these are?? Posted I posted this in the beggining of the thread...going to post more info or if ruled out.


Going through thread and marking RULED OUT on those we know have been compared by ME.

christine2448
08-07-2008, 07:18 PM
Juanita Jean Nelson

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2211dfca.html

A lot doesn't fit about this one: she's a little too old (but just within the range and looks young IMO), and there is already a suspect in the disappearance. In addition, I can't see that a 17-year-old girl would gain any advantage in saying to others that she was 15 if she were looking to live independently, even (especially?) on the streets.

Against that, height and weight match exactly, I can't see that she's been ruled out, the timescale matches Doe's arrival in Phoenix and she looks a heck of a lot like her.


Wanted to bring this up, just by quick peek at pic...did we discuss this one more? Or rule out on a definite find that would make her ineligble?

christine2448
08-07-2008, 07:25 PM
I didn't see this one on the liste either...thought i'd bump it.

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/GetImage.asp?FIN=331193 (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/GetImage.asp?FIN=331193) Age Progressed to age 19 Additional Images of Child (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/mcicsearch/%5CMCICSearch%5CFlyerAddImages.asp?type=person&Id=90213) Printable Format (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/mcicsearch/%5CMCICSearch%5CFlyerPrintableFormat.asp?Case_Id=2 5149) http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/images/MCIClogoNew.jpg Florida Department of Law Enforcement
Missing Children Information Clearinghouse http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/images/Smallbadge.jpg MISSING CHILD
PARENTAL ABDUCTION LINDSAY MARIE JOHNSON Date Missing: 2/5/1994 Missing From: Fairfax,VA County: Birth Date: 5/14/1988 Age Disappeared: 5 yrs 8 months Height: 4' 00" Race: White Hair: Blonde Weight: 055 Sex: Female Eyes: Blue Narrative: The children may be in the company of their non-custodial mother and are believed to be in Florida.
(http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MCICSearch/FlyerNewPerson.asp?Case_Id=25149&Person_Id=90249&Title=MISSING%20CHILD)

christine2448
08-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Not on the list...just bringing this one up again.JESSICA CLICK-HILL
http://www.missingkids.com/photographs/NCMC810767c1.jpg
DOB: Sep 29, 1987
Missing: Sep 2, 1995
Age Now: 20
Sex: Female
Race: White
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Height: 4'0" (122 cm)
Weight: 60 lbs (27 kg)
Missing From:
REDLANDS
CA
United States






Has she been ruled out as a possibility?... The chin looks so similar..

Cubby
08-07-2008, 09:37 PM
Jessica Hill does resemble MJD, and from the hospital photo's I see a similiar hair line in the temple area. However, Jessica would have been only 11 in January of 99. Is it possible MJD was as young as 11?

believe09
08-07-2008, 09:52 PM
I didn't see this one on the liste either...thought i'd bump it.

Well, she would have been 10, and I don't think our Jane Doe was as young as that...

believe09
08-07-2008, 09:53 PM
Wanted to bring this up, just by quick peek at pic...did we discuss this one more? Or rule out on a definite find that would make her ineligble?
Pierced breast and tattoo on ankle rules her out...

lorelei
08-07-2008, 10:46 PM
For Juanita Nelson- she has brown eyes not blue.

edit- I missed Believes post right above mine:) I also missed the part where Juanita Nelson has tattoo and pierced breast. Must get coffee now....

believe09
08-11-2008, 09:15 AM
Hi, all-SA brought this woman up on the discussion thread- Jennifer Jane Hughes: Here is the link: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._jennifer.html

Soulmagent
08-12-2008, 05:09 PM
I have not seen Karen Mitchell on the ruled out thread so I decided to post. Karen is listed as being an inch taller but the resemblance to the ME photo made me want to post the link. I know they have supects in karen's case but with nothing being concrete you just never know.http://www.pollyklaas.org/missing/kids/page.jsp?itemID=27044524

Cubby
08-12-2008, 10:35 PM
Hi, all-SA brought this woman up on the discussion thread- Jennifer Jane Hughes: Here is the link: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._jennifer.html


I see some resemblence but the noses, imo, are quite different. It's worth submitting if it hasn't already been done.

Cubby
08-12-2008, 10:40 PM
I have not seen Karen Mitchell on the ruled out thread so I decided to post. Karen is listed as being an inch taller but the resemblance to the ME photo made me want to post the link. I know they have supects in karen's case but with nothing being concrete you just never know.http://www.pollyklaas.org/missing/kids/page.jsp?itemID=27044524


I'd submit this too if it hasn't been done already. the pictures with the shorter hair look different in appearance than with the longer hair. While I think the pic with the long hair is the only one which resembles MJD, I commented earlier when I first saw the hospital photo of MJD I thought how much she resembles an old friend from HS, and this HS friend( too old to be MJD was born in the 60's)) resembles Karen Mitchell with both the long and short hair.

believe09
08-12-2008, 10:54 PM
I'd submit this too if it hasn't been done already. the pictures with the shorter hair look different in appearance than with the longer hair. While I think the pic with the long hair is the only one which resembles MJD, I commented earlier when I first saw the hospital photo of MJD I thought how much she resembles an old friend from HS, and this HS friend( too old to be MJD was born in the 60's)) resembles Karen Mitchell with both the long and short hair.

DITTO-I like this one a lot. Wanna give LE for Karen Mitchell a call SA?? Check this NMEC link first though-does she have a piercing below her lip??
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=840753&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Fairy1
08-13-2008, 12:00 AM
DITTO-I like this one a lot. Wanna give LE for Karen Mitchell a call SA?? Check this NMEC link first though-does she have a piercing below her lip??
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=840753&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Definitely see a resemblance here! I wouldn't put too much stock in the piercings - they can easily and quickly close up.

Soulmagent
08-13-2008, 06:01 AM
wow ..That was my first post ever to a message board.I was so scared. I wanted to do a side by side but dont know how. Could someone? Please? Maybe with the hospital pic to? Pretty Please?

Yours truely
Still Scared

believe09
08-13-2008, 09:35 AM
wow ..That was my first post ever to a message board.I was so scared. I wanted to do a side by side but dont know how. Could someone? Please? Maybe with the hospital pic to? Pretty Please?

Yours truely
Still Scared
Don't be-you did so good!!!

Zanko, the most talented fabulous incredible soul ever (ok along with the rest of you...) Would you mind doing a side by side with Karen Mitchell and MJD?

:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

Zanko
08-13-2008, 11:55 AM
Well Thank you for the compliment. That made my day. Hope this is what you wanted. Warning link contains photo of MJD in the hospital.
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg

believe09
08-13-2008, 01:11 PM
Well Thank you for the compliment. That made my day. Hope this is what you wanted. Warning link contains photo of MJD in the hospital.
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg


I think it is worth checking out further-the cleft (sort of) chin on Karen throws me a bit, but if you take away some of her baby-ness, I think the shape of the eyes is right even if the brows are not....

phenolred
08-13-2008, 01:12 PM
Well Thank you for the compliment. That made my day. Hope this is what you wanted. Warning link contains photo of MJD in the hospital.
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg

ooooh wow now that I see the side by sides looks like the nose looks the same and it looks like a really good possible match IMO WOW

cali_mommy
08-13-2008, 01:37 PM
they look nothing alike IMO, keep up the good work though :)

Cubby
08-13-2008, 04:14 PM
I think it is worth checking out further-the cleft (sort of) chin on Karen throws me a bit, but if you take away some of her baby-ness, I think the shape of the eyes is right even if the brows are not....


I agree. though, I think it is quite possible the cleft may have disappeared with swelling. What I notice most on MJD's hospital photo's is her hairline around the temple area. Imo it is one of her most unique features... I'm trying to see that on the possible matches but so few pics with the hair pulled away from the face. As for her brows, MJDs are shaped Karens appear natural- I wouldn't discount based on that.....

Cymro
08-13-2008, 06:29 PM
I see a resemblance and an inch in height is irrelevant - skeletons compress and expand by an inch or two over time and I suspect that most heights given for missing persons are estimated rather than measured anyway.

That said, Karen just has a whole other "look" than MJD - she seems as though she wouldn't conform to the 'pretty' ideal that MJD seemed to represent. Objectively she seems like a good match but my gut just tells me no.

Soulmagent
08-14-2008, 02:09 AM
Well Thank you for the compliment. That made my day. Hope this is what you wanted. Warning link contains photo of MJD in the hospital.

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/TMMJD/MJD_ID_TawniLee.jpg



Thanks for doing that Zanko.
When looking at that the noses look very much alike.Overall I think the ME photo and Karens long hair picture look the most alike.The shape of the face on both of Karens Photos look like the shape of MJD's ME photo. What realy throws me for a loop is how Karens pictures showing both hair styles look like two different people.
I read karen lived with her aunt and uncle. Maybe she wasnt allowed to wear make up and it was not so much about being concerned with it as not allowed to be a part of it? She is a beautiful girl and has such a whole some look.

Soulmagnet

Cubby
08-14-2008, 05:56 AM
FWIW, MJD had a small mole/birthmark on the right side of her nose. I've seen it in all of her photos... It appears that Karen has a similiar mark about the same area, but it is difficult to tell if that is a mole/birthmark or a blemish as the pics of Karen aren't as clear.
I'm always looking for that mole/birthmark when comparing photos. Anyone else?

Soulmagent
08-14-2008, 02:28 PM
Also didnt they say MJD went by coral or corry.Could it have been carrie?

phenolred
08-14-2008, 03:13 PM
Im not real sure on this but wanted to put it out there.....

SARAH MURRAY MISSING 1997


http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=863292&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Cubby
08-14-2008, 03:28 PM
Im not real sure on this but wanted to put it out there.....

SARAH MURRAY MISSING 1997


http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=863292&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US


I think the jaw line, and nose are very different. Ht is also off. Also noticed this:
She has an extra tooth growing from the roof of her mouth
I think that would have been noted in MJD's dentals.

cymster
08-14-2008, 07:32 PM
I don't know why, but Sarah Murray reminds me a bit of the Racine Jane Doe...Can't put my finger on it...Does anyone else see it too?

Teresa Larson
08-14-2008, 09:48 PM
I don't know why, but Sarah Murray reminds me a bit of the Racine Jane Doe...Can't put my finger on it...Does anyone else see it too?

Who is Racine Jane Doe? This is a thread for Maricopa Jane Doe LOL

Soulmagent
08-14-2008, 10:47 PM
FWIW, MJD had a small mole/birthmark on the right side of her nose. I've seen it in all of her photos... It appears that Karen has a similiar mark about the same area, but it is difficult to tell if that is a mole/birthmark or a blemish as the pics of Karen aren't as clear.
I'm always looking for that mole/birthmark when comparing photos. Anyone else?
I couldnt tell either. It apears in a slightly different location than Karens. I had a RN look at the hospital photo on MJD and asked her if the mark could appear to be in a different location due to swelling. She said it could. She also said she thought it could be a match.

Fairy1
08-14-2008, 11:19 PM
I don't know why, but Sarah Murray reminds me a bit of the Racine Jane Doe...Can't put my finger on it...Does anyone else see it too?

I follow that case too, cymster. But I don't see her in Sarah. I wish!

Fairy1
08-14-2008, 11:24 PM
Thanks for doing that Zanko.
When looking at that the noses look very much alike.Overall I think the ME photo and Karens long hair picture look the most alike.The shape of the face on both of Karens Photos look like the shape of MJD's ME photo. What realy throws me for a loop is how Karens pictures showing both hair styles look like two different people.
I read karen lived with her aunt and uncle. Maybe she wasnt allowed to wear make up and it was not so much about being concerned with it as not allowed to be a part of it? She is a beautiful girl and has such a whole some look.

Soulmagnet

Thank you Soulmagnet! You should send Karen's info into Suzi Dodt at the ME's office. Sure looks like a possibility to me! BTW - welcome!!!

Cubby
08-14-2008, 11:36 PM
I couldnt tell either. It apears in a slightly different location than Karens. I had a RN look at the hospital photo on MJD and asked her if the mark could appear to be in a different location due to swelling. She said it could. She also said she thought it could be a match.


FWIW on swelling. I just spent a few days in the hospital and one of the things I developed was bells palsy. I can certainly see a difference in the appearance on the paralyzed side of my face and interestingly swelling in the cartilage around my right ear. They are subtle differences but noticable enough and not having a before pic of MJD and thinking along some of the subtle areas I can see how Karen may be a match. Plus, some girls may appear tomboyish for a time being and suddenly make a few new friends and turn into real beauties... the plain Jane in JH compared to a year or two later in HS. I've seen it often enough.....

I too agree Karen needs to be submitted.

ETA: :Welcome-12-june:Soulmagent!

Soulmagent
08-15-2008, 01:26 AM
Thanks for the welcomes! It feels good to come from behind the screen. I have been lurking since 2003.I firgured I would rush in with all the other newbies and hope no one noticed.

Teresa Larson
08-15-2008, 01:31 AM
FWIW on swelling. I just spent a few days in the hospital and one of the things I developed was bells palsy. I can certainly see a difference in the appearance on the paralyzed side of my face and interestingly swelling in the cartilage around my right ear. They are subtle differences but noticable enough and not having a before pic of MJD and thinking along some of the subtle areas I can see how Karen may be a match. Plus, some girls may appear tomboyish for a time being and suddenly make a few new friends and turn into real beauties... the plain Jane in JH compared to a year or two later in HS. I've seen it often enough.....

I too agree Karen needs to be submitted.

ETA: :Welcome-12-june:Soulmagent!

I am really sorry to hear about your medical problems Cubby I hope you are better soon :blowkiss:

Fairy1
08-15-2008, 02:12 AM
Thanks for the welcomes! It feels good to come from behind the screen. I have been lurking since 2003.I firgured I would rush in with all the other newbies and hope no one noticed.

We're all grateful for new eyes and insights here!!! Glad you've joined us. :blowkiss:

Cubby
08-15-2008, 02:21 AM
I am really sorry to hear about your medical problems Cubby I hope you are better soon :blowkiss:

Thank you Teresa. Feeling about 80% better already!

Cubby
08-15-2008, 02:25 AM
Thanks for the welcomes! It feels good to come from behind the screen. I have been lurking since 2003.I firgured I would rush in with all the other newbies and hope no one noticed.

Glad you came out from behind the screen. The newbies have been wonderful the last few weeks. Lots of new interesting posters, and glad to have more eyes.

believe09
08-15-2008, 02:58 PM
Sgt Pat O'neill is the person in charge of Karen Mitchell's case and he will not be in until Monday. He and I will chat then-I was told that they have some new leads on Karen so it will be interesting to chat with him!!!

Angie4b1g
08-15-2008, 05:42 PM
Have we looked at this girl?

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=727561&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

The circumstances of her disappearance, make it seem unlikely that she's still alive (especially as 2 people were charged with her murder). But, I suppose it's possible she was abducted for the purpose of child prostitution, as horrific is that is to imagine. And her middle name is Dawn.

Here's another site with an age progression to 28 years (she would have been 23 at the time of MJD's death, I believe). I keep looking at her nose, it's asymmetrical like our girl.

http://www.geocities.com/farmgirl1032001/gina_brooks.html

believe09
08-15-2008, 05:52 PM
Have we looked at this girl?

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=727561&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

The circumstances of her disappearance, make it seem unlikely that she's still alive (especially as 2 people were charged with her murder). But, I suppose it's possible she was abducted for the purpose of child prostitution, as horrific is that is to imagine. And her middle name is Dawn.

Here's another site with an age progression to 28 years (she would have been 23 at the time of MJD's death, I believe). I keep looking at her nose, it's asymmetrical like our girl.

http://www.geocities.com/farmgirl1032001/gina_brooks.html

She was pretty petite compared to our girl, and she had a cute upturned nose IMO.

Angie4b1g
08-15-2008, 07:08 PM
Yes, but she was also a child, so lots could have changed between 1989 and 1999.

nicknjessesmom
08-15-2008, 09:17 PM
Have we looked at this girl?

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=727561&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

The circumstances of her disappearance, make it seem unlikely that she's still alive (especially as 2 people were charged with her murder). But, I suppose it's possible she was abducted for the purpose of child prostitution, as horrific is that is to imagine. And her middle name is Dawn.

Here's another site with an age progression to 28 years (she would have been 23 at the time of MJD's death, I believe). I keep looking at her nose, it's asymmetrical like our girl.

http://www.geocities.com/farmgirl1032001/gina_brooks.html

Gina would've been around 24 in 1999. The coroner said MJD age was 13 to 15 according to bone growth. Plus Gina's been gone for a looong time. MJD, her teeth were in good repair. That makes me think she wasn't on the street all that long. I've looked at Gina quite a few times myself, but I can't get past the timeline. It's too off IMO.

believe09
08-15-2008, 09:36 PM
Gina would've been around 24 in 1999. The coroner said MJD age was 13 to 15 according to bone growth. Plus Gina's been gone for a looong time. MJD, her teeth were in good repair. That makes me think she wasn't on the street all that long. I've looked at Gina quite a few times myself, but I can't get past the timeline. It's too off IMO.

You actually nailed something I told the Kansas authorities who are trying to help-I told them having seen the autopsy report, it really did not look like our girl was either on the street long or street walking long...good teeth and healthy.

christine2448
08-15-2008, 09:54 PM
When y'all 'hit' on a possible match that is worth going forward, investigating, turning in, yada yada, start a separate thread, I think it will help us organize and not be so confused. IMO, FWIW.

ArizonaGiGi
08-15-2008, 10:29 PM
When y'all 'hit' on a possible match that is worth going forward, investigating, turning in, yada yada, start a separate thread, I think it will help us organize and not be so confused. IMO, FWIW.

I miss the South :)

Soulmagent
08-15-2008, 11:13 PM
Kelly Yates Kimberly Yates. Parental Abuction,whats a girl do when her only entire known family is wanted by the FBI. Who knows what the girl is/was told about her dad. Crazy to think about how many different reasons one may not come forward.Do you think that someone knows her and has saw this website fearing the day she is indentified?[http://URL="http://http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=601944&

Vask
08-16-2008, 02:34 AM
Fixed link for Kelly:
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=601944&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Kelly Yates Kimberly Yates. Parental Abuction,whats a girl do when her only entire known family is wanted by the FBI. Who knows what the girl is/was told about her dad. Crazy to think about how many different reasons one may not come forward.Do you think that someone knows her and has saw this website fearing the day she is indentified?[http://URL="http://http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=601944&

Teresa Larson
08-16-2008, 02:54 AM
I haven't seen a girl/woman yet that looks like MJD at all. IMO :-(

cali_mommy
08-18-2008, 04:23 PM
What about Rachel Mellon?
Date of Birth - 10/13/82
Date Missing - 1/31/96
Missing from - Bolingbrook, Illinois

She's listed as having hazel eyes, they look greenish blue in some photos I've seen and brown in others. She's listed as Asian but she's biracial..mother from the Philippines, father white. She only looks vaguely Asian in certain photos. Rachel's face shape and eyebrows is what keeps bringing me back too her. Her brows could definitely be done to that shape. Plus MJD strongly resembles Rachels biological dad IMO. The step father was the last to see her. There is an entry in her journal a few months prior to her disappearance that stepfather had touched her inappropriately. She was alone with him the day she vanished.
The nose is very different, but they do look alike. good job!:)

The Green Hornet
08-19-2008, 06:46 AM
I'm grasping for straws here, but has Tabitha Brewer been ruled out?

She went missing in 1998 from Kansas, was aged at about 16 years old when she disappeared.

phenolred
08-19-2008, 08:59 AM
I'm grasping for straws here, but has Tabitha Brewer been ruled out?

She went missing in 1998 from Kansas, was aged at about 16 years old when she disappeared.

Tabitha has a Tattoo of initals on her ankle so I think we can rule her out

believe09
08-19-2008, 12:59 PM
Sgt Pat O'neill is the person in charge of Karen Mitchell's case and he will not be in until Monday. He and I will chat then-I was told that they have some new leads on Karen so it will be interesting to chat with him!!!


I left a message to have him call me today, so I will let you-all know which direction this heads in!

The Green Hornet
08-19-2008, 04:52 PM
Tabitha has a Tattoo of initals on her ankle so I think we can rule her out

Yeah, I later searched some info on Tabitha, and there seems to be a few things that don't match up with MJD.

As I said initially, I was grasping for straws. The hairlines seemed similar, and the date of disappearance and age seemed to play in line with MJD's death.

dee10134
08-19-2008, 05:49 PM
What about Rachel Mellon?
Date of Birth - 10/13/82
Date Missing - 1/31/96
Missing from - Bolingbrook, Illinois

She's listed as having hazel eyes, they look greenish blue in some photos I've seen and brown in others. She's listed as Asian but she's biracial..mother from the Philippines, father white. She only looks vaguely Asian in certain photos. Rachel's face shape and eyebrows is what keeps bringing me back too her. Her brows could definitely be done to that shape. Plus MJD strongly resembles Rachels biological dad IMO. The step father was the last to see her. There is an entry in her journal a few months prior to her disappearance that stepfather had touched her inappropriately. She was alone with him the day she vanished.

Rachael Mellon is mixed, Asian and Caucasian, but I really see the Asian in her. I doubt it is her because the nose is way off, IMHO.

believe09
08-20-2008, 11:50 PM
Christine received a some what anonymous tip regarding MJD and I am trying to run it down-Dear tipster, if you are reading, please respond to the email I sent you. I am available 24/7.

God Bless-and we can work through this all together.....

VASHLEY88
08-20-2008, 11:53 PM
Christine received a some what anonymous tip regarding MJD and I am trying to run it down-Dear tipster, if you are reading, please respond to the email I sent you. I am available 24/7.

God Bless-and we can work through this all together.....

Oh thank God. Bless you, tipster if you're reading.


Thanks believe. <3

Cubby
08-21-2008, 01:28 AM
thank you and Bless you tipster! thanks a million! :blowkiss:

believe09
08-21-2008, 02:32 AM
This a very credible tip-it puts our girl possibly in Mojave County and as a runaway who had not been on the street very long. As I vet the information, I will post it so we can all watch it unfold together-I can say that if this pans out, our girl had family who loved and missed her very much-and that our girl was all we thought she was...

Peace

The Green Hornet
08-21-2008, 07:38 AM
God Bless the tipster. I can only pray this is a credible lead and this beautiful young lady finally gets a name and a final farewell.

Someone else (I'm not sure if the tipster is the same person or not, nor am I going to ask) by the name of Matt O'Brien posted a message on another board claiming the girl's name was Tawnee and she was originally from Massachusetts. He also stated she was a runaway and believed that she was trying to find her way home when she made the final, fatal car ride with Fernandez and DeJong.