RKnowley
03-14-2008, 09:24 PM
Princess Blue's Dentals - Broken down by our lovely LionRun.
Eruption Charts
Primary Teeth Eruption Chart
http://www.ada.org/images/public/topics/chart_eruption_primary.gif
Permanent Teeth Eruption Chart
http://www.ada.org/images/public/topics/chart_eruption_permanent.gif
From the original ME's report dated circa 9/90. My comments are in blue.:
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"teeth 1, 17 and 32 (wisdom teeth) were present and unerupted."
There is no mention that any of the 3 wisdom teeth were impacted, and that none had yet erupted further indicates that Princess died between the ages of 17 and 21. There are exceptions to this, and I think someone may have posted here that their wisdom teeth didn't erupt until the age of 24. This would be more of an exception.
ETA: Other methods, including examining/measuring the long bones and studying certain sutures may have also been used to estimate Princess Blue's age at date of death. I didn't include this in post 451 on thread 3, and it may have caused some unnecessary confusion. I am sorry about that.
Tooth 16 was absent. The corresponding alveolar spavce was totally obliterated by mature bone tissue.
That there was mature (fully formed) bone tissue filling the gap where wisdom tooth 16 should have been, the tooth was perhaps either surgically removed some time before death (the gap was completely filled with fully formed bone--that takes time to occur afte a tooth, especially a tooth with a large root is removed). Or it is possible that wisdom tooth #16 never formed.
Okay, I will try and keep it as simple as possible from now on.
This report seems to lack detail in that some teeth are not even mentioned. It is inconsistent concerning the condition of all of the teeth. Some teeth are describes as, "present", yet we don't know what condition they may have been in. I assume that if there was anything outstanding it would hopefully have been mentioned.
"?" means the tooth was not mentioned either way.
Tooth Numbers
1. present-wisdom tooth-unerupted.
2. present-large carries
3. present-good condition
4. present-good condition
5. absent-but this occurred after death, so a missing report would not list tooth 5 as missing.
6. present-large carries
7. ?
8. ?
9. present-fractured tip after death, so this would not have been on a missing report
10. Absent-was surgically removed prior to death. The gap in the bone was partially filled in with new bone, and this indicates that the dental procedure was possibly performed a few months to a year prior to Princess's death from my recollection of such things. I am unsure of exactly how long it takes for bone to grow into the alveolar space once a tooth of that size is removed. So, please don't quote me on that.
11. ?
12. ?
13. ?
14. present-small filling
15. ?
16. ?
17. present-wisdom tooth-unerupted
18. present-small filling
19. present-large carries
20. present-large carries
21. present
22. present
23. present
24. present
25. present
26. present
27. present
28. present
29. present-small carries
30. present-good condition, except that the tooth had black discoloration indicative of a possible small carries
31. present-good condition
32. present-wisdom tooth-unerupted
Lion
Eruption Charts
Primary Teeth Eruption Chart
http://www.ada.org/images/public/topics/chart_eruption_primary.gif
Permanent Teeth Eruption Chart
http://www.ada.org/images/public/topics/chart_eruption_permanent.gif
From the original ME's report dated circa 9/90. My comments are in blue.:
http://www.ada.org/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.ada.org/images/public/topics/permanent_number_chart.jpg
"teeth 1, 17 and 32 (wisdom teeth) were present and unerupted."
There is no mention that any of the 3 wisdom teeth were impacted, and that none had yet erupted further indicates that Princess died between the ages of 17 and 21. There are exceptions to this, and I think someone may have posted here that their wisdom teeth didn't erupt until the age of 24. This would be more of an exception.
ETA: Other methods, including examining/measuring the long bones and studying certain sutures may have also been used to estimate Princess Blue's age at date of death. I didn't include this in post 451 on thread 3, and it may have caused some unnecessary confusion. I am sorry about that.
Tooth 16 was absent. The corresponding alveolar spavce was totally obliterated by mature bone tissue.
That there was mature (fully formed) bone tissue filling the gap where wisdom tooth 16 should have been, the tooth was perhaps either surgically removed some time before death (the gap was completely filled with fully formed bone--that takes time to occur afte a tooth, especially a tooth with a large root is removed). Or it is possible that wisdom tooth #16 never formed.
Okay, I will try and keep it as simple as possible from now on.
This report seems to lack detail in that some teeth are not even mentioned. It is inconsistent concerning the condition of all of the teeth. Some teeth are describes as, "present", yet we don't know what condition they may have been in. I assume that if there was anything outstanding it would hopefully have been mentioned.
"?" means the tooth was not mentioned either way.
Tooth Numbers
1. present-wisdom tooth-unerupted.
2. present-large carries
3. present-good condition
4. present-good condition
5. absent-but this occurred after death, so a missing report would not list tooth 5 as missing.
6. present-large carries
7. ?
8. ?
9. present-fractured tip after death, so this would not have been on a missing report
10. Absent-was surgically removed prior to death. The gap in the bone was partially filled in with new bone, and this indicates that the dental procedure was possibly performed a few months to a year prior to Princess's death from my recollection of such things. I am unsure of exactly how long it takes for bone to grow into the alveolar space once a tooth of that size is removed. So, please don't quote me on that.
11. ?
12. ?
13. ?
14. present-small filling
15. ?
16. ?
17. present-wisdom tooth-unerupted
18. present-small filling
19. present-large carries
20. present-large carries
21. present
22. present
23. present
24. present
25. present
26. present
27. present
28. present
29. present-small carries
30. present-good condition, except that the tooth had black discoloration indicative of a possible small carries
31. present-good condition
32. present-wisdom tooth-unerupted
Lion