Laurean simply said "Proof"

[Seven]

"You know my name. You know who I am,'' said the bearded Laurean, who was wearing a red Aeropostal shirt. Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean simply said "Proof,'' but wouldn't explain.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7453948

Good one, Cesar! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_4.gif

Maybe he's planning an insanity defense.

Start with the video of him buying a wheelbarrow.
And that wheelbarrow being found in his backyard.
And Marie and her child (his too?) buried in his yard.
And him on ATM video trying to use Maria's card.

that's for starters, Cesar! :behindbar

[hollyjokers]

"Well, uh...let's see, here's a note written by you detailing where the body of Maria and your child are buried, here's blood smatter found in your garage which your neighbors' witnessed you attempting to paint over, I'm sure we could go on, or we could just ship your smelly-ass back to Camp LeJeune and let them fill you in on the proof."

[lkd-ga]

I not sure if maybe I missed this but has DNA results determined that the
baby was Laurean's?

[ceeaura]

I not sure if maybe I missed this but has DNA results determined that the
baby was Laurean's?


I had heard that they have the DNA but are not releasing the results.

[hollyjokers]

Oh sorry, I thought I had read that the child was his. My bad.

[JinxieJada]

If you read the LeJeune Underground forums, there are some on there who state they DO NOT believe he did it, and if they were selected for jury duty would NOT be convicting him of murder.

My two cents - Either it's the "good ole boys" (and girls) sticking together, or there is a HELLOVA lot more to this story than has been released.

*Notice I didn't say they wouldn't convict him of anything, Just that they wouldn't convict him of murder*

:waitasec:

[STEADFAST]

Well, hollyjokers, the point of your post is still valid.:)

You want proof, Cesar? How much would you like?

[STEADFAST]

If you read the LeJeune Underground forums, there are some on there who state they DO NOT believe he did it, and if they were selected for jury duty would NOT be convicting him of murder.

My two cents - Either it's the "good ole boys" (and girls) sticking together, or there is a HELLOVA lot more to this story than has been released.

*Notice I didn't say they wouldn't convict him of anything, Just that they wouldn't convict him of murder*

:waitasec:

It seems to be mainly just one poster whose hat is Sweet Addict or something like that, who keeps repeatedly posting that she couldn't convict him of murder. The others are jumping all over her.
Here's the link: http://lejeuneunderground.com/topic.jsp?topicId=11138941

[JinxieJada]

It seems to be mainly just one poster whose hat is Sweet Addict or something like that, who keeps repeatedly posting that she couldn't convict him of murder. The others are jumping all over her.
Here's the link: http://lejeuneunderground.com/topic.jsp?topicId=11138941

Same place I read - And Some are stating (like I said some not all) that they are waiting for it all to come out - Innocent until proven guilty and all that. But this is just people that post on a message board, and if they're being open about that feeling, I'm wondering how many others feel that way...Does that make more sense?

And then we go back in time, He does/did seem to have a few people in his pocket. If you kwim? I'm just wondering how far the commodarie goes...and A part of me does still think that his wife had more to do with this than he did.....Not that hes innocent by ANY means, just that, I think he did a whole lot for his wifey -


*"I'm still sticking with the "inocent until proven guilty"

*I'm still sticking with the "inocent until proven guilty".

:) meee too... blah *




*I got to agree with Swt on this one. *



*I'm still sticking with the "inocent until proven guilty".

How unAmerican of you ;)

*said sarcastically*

Yeah, me too! *






*I don't think he'll get a fair trial and I don't think him running helped any at all for that.

That being said, I understand what SwT is saying. *

*
I'm still sticking with the "inocent until proven guilty".

I was going to say the same thing. *






(Thats where I was getting my questions on how many others feel the same - hope that clarifies a bit :p

[STEADFAST]

Same place I read - And Some are stating (like I said some not all) that they are waiting for it all to come out - Innocent until proven guilty and all that. But this is just people that post on a message board, and if they're being open about that feeling, I'm wondering how many others feel that way...Does that make more sense?

And then we go back in time, He does/did seem to have a few people in his pocket. If you kwim? I'm just wondering how far the commodarie goes...and A part of me does still think that his wife had more to do with this than he did.....Not that hes innocent by ANY means, just that, I think he did a whole lot for his wifey -

I think there will be a few people around that base who will never be convinced that this whole thing is anything but Maria's fault, strangely enough. They just won't be able to wrap their minds around the idea that "female" (as they are called in the services) Marines do not cause problems for all those "stellar" males.

But the vast majority will be just like us. They'll watch Onslow County prosecute Cesar (and Christina?) and be happy when justice is served. It's not likely that local Marines will serve on a jury in the case, as they are exempted from local juries if their unit is deployable -- which they probably all are there. Now, spouses? They could serve.

[JinxieJada]

When you look at Xtina's sister's supposed MYspace the headline reads "When I close my eyes I picture you standing right there"


COULD Xtina been using Amber's Myspace page to Communicate w/ Cesar?? Anyone know if Amber's hubby is deployed or anything - it just makes sense of what smeone would say if someone were gone hence the Xtina/Cesare connection I ask about...

[Littledeer]

You might have a "few" on base that will think it is all Maria's fault. But I think the majority are feeling that CL has disgraced the "Marines", which includes them also, and are very glad that CL has been arrested and are hoping for a quick trial so this will just go away and they can get back to making the "Marines" the best it can be. (or something like that is their motto........I keep hearing how the song goes, but not the exact words).

[SuziQ]

Steadfast, you got it right.

JJ, isn't Cesar's arrest great news?!! Interesting info about the Myspace. I've been pondering what method Xtina and Cesar used to communicate.

[Littledeer]

I wonder what the number of registered voters is in Onslow County as this is what is used to make up a jury pool. Are there more "Marines" as registered voters as opposed to the remaining population of registered voters?

Is there any place to find this information out at?

[BeavisMom62]

You might have a "few" on base that will think it is all Maria's fault. But I think the majority are feeling that CL has disgraced the "Marines", which includes them also, and are very glad that CL has been arrested and are hoping for a quick trial so this will just go away and they can get back to making the "Marines" the best it can be. (or something like that is their motto........I keep hearing how the song goes, but not the exact words).

I thought that was the Army motto, LD? Silly me, I was in the army and I can't even remember it, LOL! Oh, but anyway, I am SOOOO happy about this! :clap:

[ember]

When you look at Xtina's sister's supposed MYspace the headline reads "When I close my eyes I picture you standing right there"


COULD Xtina been using Amber's Myspace page to Communicate w/ Cesar?? Anyone know if Amber's hubby is deployed or anything - it just makes sense of what smeone would say if someone were gone hence the Xtina/Cesare connection I ask about...


Don't know if this has been posted already....if it has, I apologize...but JinxieJada....you were right on with your assumption!

Just found this :

link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/10/missing.marine/index.html

*snip from link...

A law enforcement official said federal authorities recently seized a computer belonging to Laurean's sister-in-law, which Laurean's wife was using to communicate with Laurean while he was on the run. Laurean apparently told his wife in e-mails that he wanted to return to the United States, the official said.

[davenj]

When you look at Xtina's sister's supposed MYspace the headline reads "When I close my eyes I picture you standing right there"


COULD Xtina been using Amber's Myspace page to Communicate w/ Cesar?? Anyone know if Amber's hubby is deployed or anything - it just makes sense of what smeone would say if someone were gone hence the Xtina/Cesare connection I ask about...

Read somewhere that Amber's husband is with 2/6.I'm not sure if they're currently deployed though.

[JinxieJada]

I don't think he acted alone. Period.

I think Xtina's involvement is way more than what has been let on and I wouldn't be surprised if she's the one that delivered the blow.

Am I excusing Cesar's involvement? Hell no. But I don't find that he should go down for this crime alone.

Sad that that all three involved (Maria, Cesar and Xtina) have lost their lives that were "just beginning" over something like this.

Maybe he got tired of being on the run, covering for his wife, and decided jail was a better alternative to what he was currently going through.

I do feel sorry for "A" (Xtina and Cesar's daughter) she's already lost her daddy for all intents and purposes and she may very well be losing her mommy if he decides to spill his guts.

I don't believe he's innocent by any means, but I think it's going to get a whole lot more interesting and it's not going to be as open and shut as we all originally thought......

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe Cesar can provide proof that Christina actually did the murder and he was only involved in the cover up. He said, "Proof" right after he declared his love for Maria!

[BeavisMom62]

Maybe Cesar can provide proof that Christina actually did the murder and he was only involved in the cover up. He said, "Proof" right after he declared his love for Maria!
:waitasec: Hmmmm..... kinda makes you think! :waitasec:

[Snowlover77]

I just don't think Christina was involved in killing Maria....just what my gutt is telling me. I think Cesar did it by himself..and because we do not know all of the facts...he could have very will hidden Maria's body...there is so much that we don't know...

[panthera]

If you read the LeJeune Underground forums, there are some on there who state they DO NOT believe he did it, and if they were selected for jury duty would NOT be convicting him of murder.

My two cents - Either it's the "good ole boys" (and girls) sticking together, or there is a HELLOVA lot more to this story than has been released.

*Notice I didn't say they wouldn't convict him of anything, Just that they wouldn't convict him of murder*

:waitasec:
The problem is his wife had just as much reason to want Maria and her baby dead as he did. Yes, he put her body in his back yard and burned it, and that speaks volumes to his guilt, but it could also be covering up for what someone else did.

[panthera]

I wonder what the number of registered voters is in Onslow County as this is what is used to make up a jury pool. Are there more "Marines" as registered voters as opposed to the remaining population of registered voters?

Is there any place to find this information out at?
I'm not in that part of the state, but I understand the base makes up a lot of the population. This might be a good one for a change of venue (like where I live!). :)

[Littledeer]

If that's the case, then a change of venue request by the defense would be IMO a given.

I can't see a "fair" trial if the jury pool is made up of voters who are married or related to any Marine.

Not sure where to post this thought, but I thought it was very telling on CNN Headline News tonight that Christina supposedly refused to help CL on his requests............. hmmmmmmmmmmm (maybe a thread s/b started on this topic?)

[panthera]

If that's the case, then a change of venue request by the defense would be IMO a given.

I can't see a "fair" trial if the jury pool is made up of voters who are married or related to any Marine.

Not sure where to post this thought, but I thought it was very telling on CNN Headline News tonight that Christina supposedly refused to help CL on his requests............. hmmmmmmmmmmm (maybe a thread s/b started on this topic?)
She could be arrested and charged if she'd sent him money to help him stay a fugitive. Her attorney probably told her that. :)

[JinxieJada]

Steadfast, you got it right.

JJ, isn't Cesar's arrest great news?!! Interesting info about the Myspace. I've been pondering what method Xtina and Cesar used to communicate.


They WERE using myspace!!!!!

For once I did get it right LOL - (As ya'll know I totally screwed up on and read everything wrong when we were all researching Meredith's Emerson's Disappearance - So I'm "happy" that I haven't "lost it all" as far as gut instinct goes lol)


Snip
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/04/11/missing.marine.ap/index.html

On Friday, Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said Laurean and his wife, Christina, sent Internet messages to each other through the MySpace social-networking service. Christina Laurean used her sister's computer, which was seized, Hudson said.



So Amber's (xtina's sister) myspace page WAS actually Xtina's page - The Title and Headline I found and posted on another thread was something like



"I still love you with all my heart" and then the caption was something along the lines of "Everytime I close my eyes I picture you in front of me"



Still say she's the one that did it and he helped cover it up, and that's IMO what he meant when he said "Proof" And if thats the case it explains WHY she gave him a headstart, WHY she went to the xmas party, WHY SHE Held the yardsale UNDER HER NAME on Lejeune Underground and on and on and on!

[Ticamom]

Does anyone have link to the myspace page they were using to communicate to each other ? Thanks in advance !

[Mohabi]

Maybe Cesar can provide proof that Christina actually did the murder and he was only involved in the cover up. He said, "Proof" right after he declared his love for Maria!

Please point me to the site stating that Cesar declared his love for Maria. In spanish, if possible. Thanks!

[JinxieJada]

Does anyone have link to the myspace page they were using to communicate to each other ? Thanks in advance !

This is the one i THINK they were using - it's been released they WERE using myspace to communicate - just not for fact "this is the one" this is registered to Xtina's sister though...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=65833101

Heading

I love him with all my heart!!!

"byline"

"I close my eyes and I see you standing right there"

[Ticamom]

This is the one i THINK they were using - it's been released they WERE using myspace to communicate - just not for fact "this is the one" this is registered to Xtina's sister though...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=65833101

Heading

I love him with all my heart!!!

"byline"

"I close my eyes and I see you standing right there"

Thanks JinxieJada ! It seems like the one. What a shame that it is private. I got a spooky kind of feeling cause it says ONLINE NOW. Could Xtina be the one online right now ? Or is it LE ? I wonder.....

[JinxieJada]

Thanks JinxieJada ! It seems like the one. What a shame that it is private. I got a spooky kind of feeling cause it says ONLINE NOW. Could Xtina be the one online right now ? Or is it LE ? I wonder.....

:rolleyes: Think if I added them as a friend they'd accept? LOL

[Ticamom]

:rolleyes: Think if I added them as a friend they'd accept? LOL



Ya think ? :rolleyes: LOL

[JinxieJada]

Ya think ? :rolleyes: LOL

I just added them - I'll keep ya updated if they accept LOL

[KR2tonenow]

:waitasec: Hmmmm..... kinda makes you think! :waitasec:

Right, I think she had a hand in this as well. But through her "cooperation", the tables have shifted and all fingers point to Laurean. Someone will have to pay. The word "proof", brings to mind "proof of life" a military term. They have that!! HIM.

[BeavisMom62]

Right, I think she had a hand in this as well. But through her "cooperation", the tables have shifted and all fingers point to Laurean. Someone will have to pay. The word "proof", brings to mind "proof of life" a military term. They have that!! HIM.

Hypothetically speaking, IF she dealt the final blow and IF POS is covering for her (and added to his criminal charges by being a fugitive on the run), IF she turned states evidence and testified against him, what kind of sentence would be handed down on her?

Re-reading, that sounds kinda stupid, but does it make sense? :waitasec:

[Crime-Dreamer]

Jinxijada you were right. JDNEWS.com is reporting the Myspace page and that they traced him to the Internet cafe that way. Also the roadblock was on his way to the Internet cafe. Some said they thought the roadblock was a fake to catch him. Sounds like that was right too. I had read that the Mexican authorities could not capture him on the US Warrant. They had to "come across him" by stopping him for something else. I don't remember who posted that about the roadblock. I've read too much.

I posted the JDNEWS.com article on the media link today. It had something else you all said too. I'm impressed you all are good. This is the first case I have followed on here.

[ssgtbam]

Regarding Marines on jury duty: Most service members exercise the option the law allows them to register in their home of record state. This would preclude them from ever being in the jury pool... and I am not sure even if they were registered there if they would be required to serve... I suspect that they would be excused because of their affiliation with the Corps, and the same might apply for their spouses...
Even though the "jury of your peers" should be including Marines...
The important thing here is that in the event of Courts Martial, it would be enlisted Marines who would be on the panel.

[KR2tonenow]

Hypothetically speaking, IF she dealt the final blow and IF POS is covering for her (and added to his criminal charges by being a fugitive on the run), IF she turned states evidence and testified against him, what kind of sentence would be handed down on her?

Re-reading, that sounds kinda stupid, but does it make sense? :waitasec:

No, it makes sense BM. I know, somehow this has become very twisted indeed!

[SeriouslySearching]

Regarding Marines on jury duty: Most service members exercise the option the law allows them to register in their home of record state. This would preclude them from ever being in the jury pool... and I am not sure even if they were registered there if they would be required to serve... I suspect that they would be excused because of their affiliation with the Corps, and the same might apply for their spouses...
Even though the "jury of your peers" should be including Marines...
The important thing here is that in the event of Courts Martial, it would be enlisted Marines who would be on the panel.Thank you for the information, Ssgtbam! Welcome to WS! :)

[ssgtbam]

Thanks for the Welcome...I have been following these threads for the past three months, and one time did try to join, but for some reason it did not let me...so I have been satisfied with "lurking" in the shadows....but this particular aspect of the case I am fairly familiar with...such as the ability for the military to charge the same people with the same charges, and the military (as of last year) is able to charge with the death of the unborn in the activity which brought about the death of the mother... altho this is the case, the death penalty is Not available for that charge alone...but it is definately a possibility in the Murder charge....
I personally do not think that the civilian courts are going to relenquish the suspect for this purpose, and since the crime occurred in the civilian jurisdiction, the military will likely have to defer to the civilian authorities first, then, they may conduct the Courts Martial.
Again, thanks for the Welcome, SS!

[BeavisMom62]

Thanks for the Welcome...I have been following these threads for the past three months, and one time did try to join, but for some reason it did not let me...so I have been satisfied with "lurking" in the shadows....but this particular aspect of the case I am fairly familiar with...such as the ability for the military to charge the same people with the same charges, and the military (as of last year) is able to charge with the death of the unborn in the activity which brought about the death of the mother... altho this is the case, the death penalty is Not available for that charge alone...but it is definately a possibility in the Murder charge....
I personally do not think that the civilian courts are going to relenquish the suspect for this purpose, and since the crime occurred in the civilian jurisdiction, the military will likely have to defer to the civilian authorities first, then, they may conduct the Courts Martial.
Again, thanks for the Welcome, SS!

Welcome, SSgt! Thanks for the insight. After the PC there was an interview with a female prosecutor (not affiliated with the case) who mentioned the possibility of the USMC charging POS with the death of the baby, after the civilian trial, and possibly thereby bringing the DP to the table, since NC obviously cannot. However, you are saying this isn't possible. I didn't think they would/could but I had hoped. :mad: Oh, well. Hopefully, some kind of justice will be served.

[panthera]

I just added them - I'll keep ya updated if they accept LOL
I just clicked that link and it comes up that the person cancelled/deleted their account. :(

[lilpony]

I just clicked that link and it comes up that the person cancelled/deleted their account. :(

Well...They must have taken it down. Closed the site or something. Maybe law enforment closed it.