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Filly
04-17-2008, 05:24 AM
Carmine Baffa is a real charmer. The supposed hypnotist who ran "Life Imporvement" seminars has been accused of using his motivational self to rape two teen girls who were sent to him by licensed psychotherapists. So, these poor kids needed help and they get raped by this creep face. Baffa is fifty-seven years old and described as one very charismatic man. Yeah, I hope he's charismatic in jail right now.http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2008/04/16/baffa_0417.html

Filly
04-17-2008, 05:26 AM
His shoddy website is under construction.http://carmine.net/

michelle
04-17-2008, 05:49 AM
What a pig!:loser:

Taximom
04-17-2008, 07:31 AM
Oooohhh, 57 yrs old. How many others have been touched by this man? :(

Mygirlsadie
04-17-2008, 08:09 AM
Obviously the adults had no problems with it.... ''The adults at the time said they knew what was going on, but were convinced that it would help their treatment," Spellman said. (disgusting)

SteveHuff
04-17-2008, 08:24 AM
His shoddy website is under construction.http://carmine.net/

There's a lot more to that website. He's just removed the links. Consider this, for instance:

http://carmine.net/articles/attitude/NLPandSex.htm

"NLP" is "neuro-linguistic programming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming)," btw.

Steve

SteveHuff
04-17-2008, 08:25 AM
I forgot -- have y'all seen his photo? Bug-eyed, big-toothed, weirdly young-looking. I would have found the guy scary, personally.

Steve

SteveHuff
04-17-2008, 10:56 AM
I've done a pretty thorough blog post about Mr. Baffa. Not as thorough as I'd like, but I'm not feeling well:

http://www.truecrimeweblog.com/2008/04/fall-of-carmine-baffa.html

I did manage to include his mugshot -- infinitely more creepy than the photo that's out there now -- and a short video promoting Baffa as a seminar leader. The video is pretty incoherent, btw.

Steve

NewMommy09
04-17-2008, 11:41 AM
When I lived in Salt Lake, I had a friend who's father was a local comedic-hypnotist. He had weekly shows at an old Theater on State Street. We went all the time and I had numerous friends who went up on stage. It was always a good time. I went up on stage once, and I felt him put me under, but I kept coming back out of it, so he sent me offstage. It was kinda a weird experience.

But the stuff he had my friends doing was hilarious. Anyway, the reason I bring this up, is my friend (the hypnotists son) HATED hypnotism and would never talk about it. I got the feeling he felt aspects of it were evil or wrong.

I'm sure there are many different opinions on whether it even works. But I think it's different for alot of people. Personally, I seem to have issues with the thought of being hypnotised, and that makes me unsusceptible, but I definitely felt him put me under at the show.

I feel really bad for these girls. They obviously needed some help to begin with, and instead they got abused. It's awful. :mad:

SteveHuff
04-17-2008, 12:52 PM
Baffa has his fans, is my bet. Read a comment someone left on my blog entry about Baffa (http://www.truecrimeweblog.com/2008/04/fall-of-carmine-baffa.html): based on that way you wrote about carmine baffa, seems like you know quite a bit about nlp. sure carmine broke the law by having sex with a 13-year old but your writing is not exactly unbiased base on taking very limited snapshots of his writings. what is your agenda here? were you a student of carmine and thought that he harmed you so you are presenting a rather tinted perspective? seems like you are putting quite a bit energy to demonize this person. i wonder why you are doing that? there are many other rapists in GA. you have not dedidated your time with them but you are with carmine.
I added emphasis to the part of the comment that made think, WTF? The person was basically saying, 'he only had sex with a 13-year-old, why are you picking on him?'

I only called them out as a troll, but I was think they were a family member, friend, or devotee of Baffa's. Or just a sex offender who likes to self-justify.

Steve

KatK
04-17-2008, 01:06 PM
He looks to me like he's had his face broken by fists, and his nose broken and not properly set as well. (I've seen a battered woman whose husband broke her face, cheekbones, nose etc. She looked something like he does.) ETA: Except the woman didn't get medical care for her broken face in time I think she said. She looked something like a cracked and badly glued porcelain doll, you could see where the lines/breaks were. She's lucky she got away alive.

KatK
04-17-2008, 01:15 PM
Ok, now after seeing a bit (couldn't stand to watch 'em all, might later) of both YouTube clips, I have to say, this guy is *BATSHIT*! Round the bend, loop de loop, cracked, nutso.

Blink34
04-17-2008, 01:42 PM
Baffa has his fans, is my bet. Read a comment someone left on my blog entry about Baffa (http://www.truecrimeweblog.com/2008/04/fall-of-carmine-baffa.html):based on that way you wrote about carmine baffa, seems like you know quite a bit about nlp. sure carmine broke the law by having sex with a 13-year old but your writing is not exactly unbiased base on taking very limited snapshots of his writings. what is your agenda here? were you a student of carmine and thought that he harmed you so you are presenting a rather tinted perspective? seems like you are putting quite a bit energy to demonize this person. i wonder why you are doing that? there are many other rapists in GA. you have not dedidated your time with them but you are with carmine.
I added emphasis to the part of the comment that made think, WTF? The person was basically saying, 'he only had sex with a 13-year-old, why are you picking on him?'

I only called them out as a troll, but I was think they were a family member, friend, or devotee of Baffa's. Or just a sex offender who likes to self-justify.

Steve

Well Steve, take some small solace in that if you read their post (I enlarged and bolded above) they actually do refer to him as a rapist.

I agree, I think this freakshow comes with a mega bucket of kool-aid

shadowraiths
04-17-2008, 02:07 PM
Sadly, cases like Bafa's sexual abuse of his clients, is simply not new. That he was also involved in the quack science, NLP, is not at all surprising either. That is, imnsho. Unfortunately, quack science and egregiously abusive practitioners seem to go hand-in-hand. Whether it falls under the rubric of NLP, EMDR, RMT, rebirthing (aka holding therapy), or what have you. That is, from what I've seen wrt the various court cases that I have researched over the past decade—of which btw, over 50% of those cases involved various forms of sexual abuse of the clients under hypnosis. In any event, I do hope they also charge the adults who knew what he was doing and did nothing. Imho, it's time we (as a society) start holding those who also play a part in the abuse, accountable.

Filly
04-17-2008, 07:16 PM
There's a lot more to that website. He's just removed the links. Consider this, for instance:

http://carmine.net/articles/attitude/NLPandSex.htm

"NLP" is "neuro-linguistic programming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming)," btw.

Steve

Steve thank you so much for all the information on this whackadew. I'll be reading up on this weirdo. Hoping that you feel better soon, Steve.

KatK
04-17-2008, 08:21 PM
Comments are offline on that entry now? Uh oh...gotta preserve one or two of 'em?!

SteveHuff
04-17-2008, 08:49 PM
They'll be back, Kat. Don't worry.

KatK
04-17-2008, 08:51 PM
They'll be back, Kat. Don't worry.

*nod nod* But I is curious, and I know I probably won't know the behind the scenes dis time... =^..^=

SteveHuff
04-17-2008, 08:54 PM
Oh, there's just some trolls lurking around that entry. If the comments seem to disappear, it just means I am not at the computer. I'm not in the mood for nastygrams in general right now, and if I'm going to get them, I'd rather control when they arrive.

KatK
04-17-2008, 09:02 PM
Oh, there's just some trolls lurking around that entry. If the comments seem to disappear, it just means I am not at the computer. I'm not in the mood for nastygrams in general right now, and if I'm going to get them, I'd rather control when they arrive.

Ahhhh, I see. *comfort* Wish I could sic Oscar (http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3581/oscarandjanie2bl7.jpg) on 'em. He'd wrassle 'em to death. He's the big grey fellow, he's the size of a toddler. Not kidding. The hand is mine, and it is about 6 1/4 inches long from palm to middle finger tip. ETA: That robe-covered chair is 18 inches from side to side. ETA2: Oscar loves to chase pests. Bugs, mice, little ankle biting dogs...Great Danes, Pit Bulls, humans he thinks are shadey, etc. He's sweet, and loving to almost everyone but dogs. He even tries to be gentle to crickets so he can play "chase" with them longer. I'm thinking net trolls sorta smell like dogs, so siccing Oscar on 'em would work. ;)

Filly
10-02-2010, 05:33 AM
Here I sit trying to find out where Carmine Baffa fake hypnotherapist is and what happened to him.

I get this



http://carminebaffa.com/CARMINE%20BAFFA%20carmine%20baffa.htm

A bunch of conspiracy theories yadda yadda.

His brother is in some hot water as well. Seems they are two con men. O.K. but where the heck are they?

junkly
03-07-2011, 12:55 PM
Wondering where Carmine Baffa is? Still sitting in the Gwinnett County Jail.

He has an excellent and very well known attorney in Atlanta, Drew Findling, according to some news quotes on the internet. (You can easily find Mr. Findling on the internet and his firmís website appears to show he has been on Fox News numerous times).

I have heard trials can take a long time, but often wonder why such long delays when a person is to be guaranteed a speedy trial according to the Sixth Amendment. I can only assume with a top-notch attorney and the Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial that possibly the defense wants things to drag things on for a longer time. What would the prosecution gain by delaying for this long and would they be able to drag this out legally? Maybe the courts are just over-loaded or this case is quite complicated with various counties/jurisdictions involved?

I hope the trial comes sooner rather than later. As time goes on people want to move on with their lives Ė whether it is the defendant or the alleged victims. If a defendant is innocent they do not want to sit in jail for something they havenít done. If they are guilty, the victims want justice and would rather have him locked up in prison for a long time instead of sitting in a county jail without being convicted wondering when they will have the chance to testify against him.

Missizzy
03-07-2011, 06:11 PM
Welcome, Junkly!! I too have a hard time with some of the cases which just drag on and on. I watch a lot of child porn cases and the "turn-around" seems to be 1-3 years from arrest to trial. That seems like an awful long time for an innocent person to just sit and an ungodly amount of time for a victim's life to be put on hold, if they're guilty.

Children grow up, people move, people die. I do know that the defense has to willingly give up their right to speedy trial and undoubtedly, sometimes, it must be helpful to their case. Very confusing and something I did not know before coming to WS.

Again, welcome!! Please let us know if you see any updates.

Filly
03-07-2011, 11:45 PM
HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead ::banghead::banghead:

Thank you junkly. I was wondering where he was.

junkly
02-10-2012, 02:04 PM
Update on Carmine Baffa: On Friday morning (2/10/12) at the Gwinnett County Courthouse in Lawrenceville, GA, Carmine Baffa plead guilty to a plea bargain between himself and the 3 GA counties that had charges against him. He will serve 25 years (15 minimum and 10 on probation) and will have to register as a sex offender. He will be transferring to the GA prison system soon enough!!!

Missizzy
02-10-2012, 03:06 PM
Thank you, Junkly, for the update. Are there any news articles on the sentence? I can't seem to find any.

junkly
07-03-2012, 05:34 PM
Nothing in ther news or online, but he plead guilty 25 years with minimum 15 with 10 on probation

junkly
07-03-2012, 07:06 PM
http://www.gwinnettcountysheriff.com/asp/Activeb.asp

This shows he is still in Gwinnett County jail. Apparently it takes awhile to transfer into prison system. But if I see when transfer to prison I will post.

junkly
12-05-2012, 04:33 PM
This shows Carmine Baffa was convicted and in the GA prison system. You can go to the Georgia Dept of Corrections website and do an offender search - just type in Carmine Baffa on the site below.

http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/OffenderQuery/jsp/OffQryForm.jsp?Institution=