Possible victims : New York

[aussie_mum]

Patrick Welsh
Last seen Harrisburg PA,15 April 2005
Body found in the Hudson River 2 June 2005

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22862&highlight=college+student+body

[aussie_mum]

Joshua Szostak
last seen at a bar in December 2007
Body Found Hudson River 22 April 2008

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57912&highlight=body+river

[aussie_mum]

These two I found thanks to a post by Blink34.

Albert Campbell
last seen at a restaurant Oct 2005
Body Found Raquette River (not sure of the date)

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30529&highlight=Adam+Falcon
Adam Falcon
last seen November 2004 at an Inn (pub?)
Body found Grasse River 18 November 2004
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16214&highlight=Adam+Falcon

[hockeymom]

interview with Josh Szostaks father,from my local radio station, http://www.wgy.com/podcast/al_roney.xml

[hockeymom]

Doctor Michael Baden to do 2nd autopsy on Josh Szostak.

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=684276&category=FRONTPG&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=4/28/2008

[aj1020]

McNeill's case is the one that started Detectives Gannon and Duarte's investigation into these cases.

I can't find any more info on Patrick - I only link back to articles about these recent investigations.

ETA: Nevermind, found this: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE7D7133FF934A25757C0A9619582 60

Autopsy Shows a Fordham Student Drowned

Published: April 17, 1997

The Fordham University student whose body was found floating near a Brooklyn pier last week died from drowning, New York City's chief Medical Examiner ruled yesterday, adding that the young man had a moderate amount of alcohol in his blood but was not overly inebriated when he died.
Dr. Charles Hirsch, the chief Medical Examiner, said his office does not release the precise numerical blood alcohol levels, which change depending on how long a person has been dead. But he said that the level of alcohol in the body of the student, Patrick McNeill Jr., was ''more than a little and less than a lot.''

[SeriouslySearching]

Another story on Josh Szostak:

http://media.www.cardinalpointsonline.com/media/storage/paper1064/news/2008/04/25/News/Students.Body.Found-3348355.shtml

[fran]

Joseph Patrick Martin

Age 15, 5'2"

Missing without a trace.......3/25/96
Kerhankoon, NY

Left to meet friends to watch comet - never arrived

http://www.find-missing-children.org/Posters/poster65.htm


I know he's a little younger, but still fits the basic profile.

fran

[fran]

John J. Restivo

Age 26, (youthful appearance), 5'9", 160 lbs.

Missing without a trace 11/1/98, New York, NY

Circumstances concerning his disappearance are unclear

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/restivo_john.html

[dimples37398]

Kieran McCaffrey

http://www.massapequapost.com/news/2008/0402/front_page/004.html

The family of Massapequa High School senior Kieran McCaffrey, as well as the community, is still waiting to hear how the teenager died. He was found earlier this month, lying in the water at a local canal in Massapequa and had been missing for several weeks

*more at link

[SeriouslySearching]

William Jacobson 19 yrs. Ithaca, NY (from St. Paul, MN)

Missing- 04/27/08

Found- 04/30/08 accidental drowning in campus pond

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S428484.shtml?cat=1

[Blink34]

These two I found thanks to a post by Blink34.

Albert Campbell
last seen at a restaurant Oct 2005
Body Found Raquette River (not sure of the date)

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30529&highlight=Adam+Falcon
Adam Falcon
last seen November 2004 at an Inn (pub?)
Body found Grasse River 18 November 2004
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16214&highlight=Adam+Falcon

AM, if you'd like to edit your post:
Adam Falcon DOD: 11/13/2004
Albert Campbell DOD: 10/07/2005

[Blink34]

William Jacobson 19 yrs. Ithaca, NY (from St. Paul, MN)

Missing- 04/27/08

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S428484.shtml?cat=1

Yeesh- how did I miss this- Ithaca student, from Minn, same circumstances, the day after the story breaks?

[fran]

Yeesh- how did I miss this- Ithaca student, from Minn, same circumstances, the day after the story breaks?

http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=4437ca0f-0f4f-4bb7-9669-acf344f0aff9&rss=112



Missing Ithaca College student found dead

Ithaca, New York (WSYR-TV) - The Ithaca College student who had been missing since Sunday has been found dead in a pond on campus.

The college public safety office said divers found the body at 9:30 Wednesday morning.

The office said freshman William Jacobson, 19, of St. Paul, Minnesota, had been last seen in the city of Ithaca between 3:30 and 4:00 a.m., Sunday April 27.

He was in a backyard on Grandview Ave., below Hudson Heights Apartments, leaving a party and was believed to be returning to his room.

[Blink34]

http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=4437ca0f-0f4f-4bb7-9669-acf344f0aff9&rss=112



Missing Ithaca College student found dead

Ithaca, New York (WSYR-TV) - The Ithaca College student who had been missing since Sunday has been found dead in a pond on campus.

The college public safety office said divers found the body at 9:30 Wednesday morning.

The office said freshman William Jacobson, 19, of St. Paul, Minnesota, had been last seen in the city of Ithaca between 3:30 and 4:00 a.m., Sunday April 27.

He was in a backyard on Grandview Ave., below Hudson Heights Apartments, leaving a party and was believed to be returning to his room.
Thanks for updating, God Bless, horrible

[Blink34]

Thanks for updating, God Bless, horrible

He was leaving a COSTUME PARTY?? Remind you of anyone?
Chris Jenkins was found in his Indian costume.

The weekend the detectives breaking their hypothesis on these similar cases are in NY, using the Chris Jenkins case as their case study, who went missing the eve of Halloween dressed in costume- wtf??
This guy was from St. Paul???

[eve]

He was leaving a COSTUME PARTY?? Remind you of anyone?
Chris Jenkins was found in his Indian costume.

The weekend the detectives breaking their hypothesis on these similar cases are in NY, using the Chris Jenkins case as their case study, who went missing the eve of Halloween dressed in costume- wtf??
This guy was from St. Paul???

Unreal, isn't it, Blink? And in the wake of the renewed interest of the case. Coincidence?

Eve

[Blink34]

I think I'm gonna hurl- seriously this is unbelievable

[hockeymom]

Wow!! I just saw this. Unbelievable! My friend's son goes to Ithaca College. I'll see if she knows anything.

[Blink34]

See if she can find out why they would have a costume party in April, if you can, please. A guy dressed as Wm. Shakespear ending up in a pond is more than I can swallow here-

[Silver~Bell]

Blink, costume parties are very popular in some places. Sometimes they call them "fancy dress" parties. Even here way in West Texas they have costume parties ALOT and our theater is always renting out costumes, year 'round. Yet Halloween is not celebrated hardly at all here. It just depends on your locale. BTW these parties are the rage on Australian campuses too.

[SeriouslySearching]

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Josh Szostak's family has confirmed to Capital News 9 that a second autopsy reveals that Szostak drowned.
The findings of the second examination are consistent with the initial State Police autopsy out of Greene County.

Snip~

In this instance, there were no evidences of injury or struggle that we confirmed with the second autopsy. The investigation as to whether he fell in accidentally because he had been drinking or whether he was pushed in or thrown in by others, really is a police investigation matter. The autopsy findings would be the same in either case."

http://capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/115144/forensic-pathologist-discusses-szostak-autopsy/Default.aspx

[vermontn03]

This article was on our news last night.

New Clues Emerge In Case Of Missing Plattsburgh State Student

ALBANY, N.Y. -- The father of former Plattsburgh State University student Joshua Szostak noticed a shocking image spray-painted on a tree near the Hudson River Wednesday, where he was last seen alive.

http://www.wptz.com/2008/0430/16092368_240X180.jpg

http://www.wptz.com/news/16090285/detail.html

[LovingTheChaos]

I know this is a stretch - but this is a missing person case near Albany (Glenville, NY). Craig Allan Frear was 17 when he dissapeared. He was approximately 2 - 3 miles from the Mohawk River when he went missing.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/frear_craig.html

[hockeymom]

I know this is a stretch - but this is a missing person case near Albany (Glenville, NY). Craig Allan Frear was 17 when he dissapeared. He was approximately 2 - 3 miles from the Mohawk River when he went missing.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/frear_craig.html

Not farfetched at all. I wondered the same thing myself

[LovingTheChaos]

Not farfetched at all. I wondered the same thing myself

Hi Hockeymom - I live in Charlton, not too far from you in Clifton Park.

I am tempted to take a ride down to Scotia & see if there is anything odd by the river.

ETA - What struck me was the physical resemblence between Craig & Josh

[hockeymom]

Hi Hockeymom - I live in Charlton, not too far from you in Clifton Park.

I am tempted to take a ride down to Scotia & see if there is anything odd by the river.

ETA - What struck me was the physical resemblence between Craig & Josh

Hi,used to go to the Charlton Tavern quite a bit.
I know what you mean about wanting to poke around. I feel like I want to drive down to the Port of Albany,but would be afraid even in the day time!
Yes,the resemblence is striking. I think some of the other victims as well.

[dark_shadows]

These two I found thanks to a post by Blink34.

Albert Campbell
last seen at a restaurant Oct 2005
Body Found Raquette River (not sure of the date)

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30529&highlight=Adam+Falcon
Adam Falcon
last seen November 2004 at an Inn (pub?)
Body found Grasse River 18 November 2004
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16214&highlight=Adam+Falcon
Dearest Aussie_mum,:blowkiss:
I read the thread about Adam Falcon that the poster fourboys posted on Nov 2005 in the located forum.
I cannot see his death being deamed an accident. His BAC was 0.21 at the time of his autopsy. Adam was last seen at around 1:30am on saturday November 13th, 2004. Adam was found in the Grasse River on November 18th, 2004.
A man here from Vermont, Thomas J. Grega was arrested on December 9th, 2004 for Unlawfully Dealing with a child 1st degree. (class A misdemeanor) This was in connection with Adam's death. Grega was a student at St. Lawrence U. Others were charged with serving alchohol to Adam.
The family filed a lawsuit.
Respectfully,
dark_shadows

[Blink34]

Dearest Aussie_mum,:blowkiss:
I cannot see his death being deamed an accident. His BAC was 0.21 at the time of his autopsy. Adam was last seen at around 1:30am on saturday November 13th, 2004. Adam was found in the Grasse River on November 18th, 2004.
A man here from Vermont, Thomas J. Grega was arrested on December 9th, 2004 for Unlawfully Dealing with a child 1st degree. (class A misdemeanor) This was in connection with Adam's death. Grega was a student at St. Lawrence U. Others were charged with serving alchohol to Adam.
The family filed a lawsuit.
Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Shadows- how was it connected- was he bartending at the Inn?

[SheerLuck]

[quote=hockeymom;2180497]Hi,used to go to the Charlton Tavern quite a bit.
I know what you mean about wanting to poke around. I feel like I want to drive down to the Port of Albany,but would be afraid even in the day time!

Hello Hockeymom; first time I been here since Porco case. Hope you've been well. I didn't think I'd ever find a case as creepy as the Porco case, but these drownings are equally as creepy(well; almost as creepy--Porco case was the worst). I'm not sure if the Szostak case relates to the other drowning cases nationwide, but it might. If it does relate, it has a unique clue that the others didn't have; as a stolen vehicle was found near where Josh's cell phone was found. All the other cases had just a misplaced or lost possesion like a cell phone or keys; but the Szostak case adds a stolen vehicle to the mystery. The NYC detectives; who say they linked 40 cases together; are very interested in the Szostak case; and they're making plans to come to Albany to visit with the father of Josh Szostak this coming week. Also; I believe; they might talk with WGY radio host, Al Roney(on the 81 am dial during the week). He's been covering the story everyday for the past week and he's got a great web page up and running with a lot of excellent links to the Szostak case; including some interviews with Bill Szostak(Josh's father) and Dr. Michael Baden(the pathologist). His podcast page has both live interviews and it's interesting to note that Baden does not say it was an "accidental drowning", but instead says a "drowning", which leaves open the possibility of foul play. Bill Szostak is sure that foul play is involved, but for now he's not sure if his sons case relates to any others; or if it's an isolated murder case. Here's Al Roney's web page. I hope the link works:

http://www.wgy.com/pages/onair/onair_roney.html (http://www.wgy.com/pages/onair/onair_roney.html)

[hockeymom]

Sheer Luck,
I haven't been grabbed by much since the Porco case myself,but probably due the local connection,I'm all over this. I have been following all along with Al Roney. I have lots of questions I would love to ask the Dad. I'm not totally sure this is connected to all the other cases,but I'm positive there was foul play. Just knowing the area and the amount of distance that Josh would have had to walk,doesn't add up for me.

[CNYRN98]

Hi Hockeymom - I live in Charlton, not too far from you in Clifton Park.

I am tempted to take a ride down to Scotia & see if there is anything odd by the river.

ETA - What struck me was the physical resemblence between Craig & Josh

Hi-first time poster here- so if any breach of board etiquette, feel free to let me know! Anyways, I read the above post, and finally realized why the Scotia thing was bothersome-less than 1 month ago, a Scotia man called Herkimer County Comm College to make an "unspecified threat" against Utica College. Whole thing was kinda bizarre, but worrisome,nonetheless.

http://www.uticaod.com/news/x170771617 (http://www.uticaod.com/news/x170771617)

[Blink34]

Link for Larry Andrews, didnt see any articles on him yet:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E5D7133CF930A25751C0A96E9582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

[SheerLuck]

Sheer Luck,
I haven't been grabbed by much since the Porco case myself,but probably due the local connection,I'm all over this. I have been following all along with Al Roney. I have lots of questions I would love to ask the Dad. I'm not totally sure this is connected to all the other cases,but I'm positive there was foul play. Just knowing the area and the amount of distance that Josh would have had to walk,doesn't add up for me.

Hey Hockeymom; I agree with you. Its too coincidental that a stolen car is found right near Josh's cell phone; so its got to be foul play because Josh's DNA wasn't found anywhere on the stolen car. I thought they'd open it up as a murder case; when the only DNA found was employees of the SUV. If the detectives determine this case is connected to the others; then the stolen car would be a new wrinkle from the other cases; and might be some sort of added clue. At this point; the killer or killers are taunting the cops and laughing at the cops; so hopefully they get overconfident and slip up. The actual murder looks very obvious: I think the killer is someone who has a cool looking demeanor; at least cool in the eyes of a young male; and that he offers young drunk men rides home; gives them a beer with GHB and then drowns them when they pass out. It could be an attractive women, but usually men do this sort of thing. Whats unusual is that this does not appear to be a sex crime and most cult crimes have trauma; so this is different(I have an idea that so far is connecting, but it's pretty far fetched). Hopefully there's a pattern to these locations and the detectives figure it out and they catch the killers in the act. I think the detectives are close, but might be missing the final clues

[SheerLuck]

Sheer Luck,
I haven't been grabbed by much since the Porco case myself,but probably due the local connection,I'm all over this. I have been following all along with Al Roney. I have lots of questions I would love to ask the Dad. I'm not totally sure this is connected to all the other cases,but I'm positive there was foul play. Just knowing the area and the amount of distance that Josh would have had to walk,doesn't add up for me.

Hey Hockeymom; I'm sure I have these drownings figured out and the Szostak case is connected; unless the stolen SUV next to his cell phone was a pure coincidence. I know the group who's doing these killings and their motive but I don't have the resources or time to learn the exact people. I e-mailed the detectives and asked if I can post my ideas here and I'm waiting to hear back.

[vermontn03]

Father Of Former PSU Student Wants FBI Investigation

Father Believes Foul Play Led To Son's Death

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Bill Szostak holds on tightly to every memory of his son Josh, the 21-year-old Plattsburgh State Student found drowned in the Hudson Fiver late last month.

Albany police closed the case a day after his body was found.

They said the drowning was accidental and there was no evidence of foul play.

But Szostak's father believes something did happen to his son the December night he vanished.

He said there are too many circumstances that just don't add up.

http://www.wptz.com/news/16219792/detail.html

[ohwell1971]

Joseph Patrick Martin

Age 15, 5'2"

Missing without a trace.......3/25/96
Kerhankoon, NY

Left to meet friends to watch comet - never arrived

http://www.find-missing-children.org/Posters/poster65.htm


I know he's a little younger, but still fits the basic profile.

fran

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8302574

"man charged with killing 15 year old"
"police won't say if the body was recovered"

[Blink34]

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8302574

"man charged with killing 15 year old"
"police won't say if the body was recovered"

Great post Oh well-

I would love to get my hands on that arrest warrant. Anyone else know anything?

Prayers for his family and friends, and of course, this poor young man.

[Blink34]

Another article.

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19676950&BRD=1769&PAG=461&dept_id=74969&rfi=6

Looks like Det are going through outstanding cases as the majority of these young mens cases are getting spotlight- that is encouraging.
His other friend was convicted of murdering another man.?

Another article, Joseph Martin allegedly beaten to death with a pipe.
http://www.dailyfreeman.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=19679519&BRD=1769&PAG=461&dept_id=74969&rfi=8

[fran]

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8302574

"man charged with killing 15 year old"
"police won't say if the body was recovered"

Wow! Thanks ohwell.

Just shows they really do work on 'cold cases!'

This is great news that they most likely solved this case after all these years.

fran

PS.......My condolences to the family over their loss. At least they now know, or at least part of what happened to their son. May he RIP.........fran

[fran]

http://www.irishabroad.com/news/irish-voice/news/Articles/Missing-Yonkers-Man051207.aspx

James Anthony (Tony) Devine disappeared 11/30/07 from a Manhattan bar, Galway Hooker Bar. He was last seen by his friend at 10:30 p.m. His last cell phone call was to his gf at approximatly 11:30. It went to her voice mail.

He was recovered from the Hudson River. Ruled accidental drowning

possibly linked, imho,
fran

[fran]

Martin Marpicek, age 28, Yukan, NY, 5/12/08

found drowned?, 5/14/08

JFWIW, it's accelerating, IMO....

:(
fran

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64797

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/May08/12/Marpicek_search-12May08.html

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8325950

[Blink34]

Martin Marpicek, age 28, Yukan, NY, 5/12/08

found drowned?, 5/14/08

JFWIW, it's accelerating, IMO....

:(
fran

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64797

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/May08/12/Marpicek_search-12May08.html

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8325950

Thanks for posting, I wish they would report on the circumstances surrounding his disappearance-

[SuziQ]

At the bottom of the page at the below link is a motherlode of articles related to Josh Szostak's case:

http://capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/116620/szostak-death-featured-on-cnn/Default.aspx

[fran]

http://www.childseeknetwork.com/oldsite/commonalities.htm

03/03/02 Brendon McNelis, 20, drowned,........Binghamton, NY

Disappeared from a fraternity party.

[Moe]

Wow, I just stumbled on to this area while listening to Al Roney, Josh's Dad will be on momentarily, WGY.com if anyone is around. I have not seen this area until today, I have some reading to do I see. I live in Saratoga Springs, so I'm close by too.

[PMLsmom]

I just stumbled across another possibility in New York - David Michael Reilly - from The Charley Project.

http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reilly_david.html

[Blink34]

I just stumbled across another possibility in New York - David Michael Reilly - from The Charley Project.

http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reilly_david.html

Possible, but I am almost inclined to think he may have committed suicide. Especially as they calssified him as "missing endangered"- they may suspect that as well.

[PMLsmom]

I just found it remarkably similar in that he also was separated from friends, obviously was very "drunk" (taxi driver couldn't understand him), and his items that were found appeared to be "neatly and deliberately" placed by the river.

[Blink34]

I agree with you totally at first glance he fits, but the age, loss of job 2 weeks prior and the "endangered" status makes me think at least LE thinks he's a suicide risk?

[CNYRN98]

This was all I could find about this so far...hopefully it is not related at all, but Cortland is uncomfortably close to Ithaca NY

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8705863 (http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8705863)

http://www.qcountry1037.com/page.php?category_id=62&item_id=38687

[Blink34]

I just stumbled across another possibility in New York - David Michael Reilly - from The Charley Project.

http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reilly_david.html


Has this been updated, or is it on the general thread:

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19867803&BRD=1769&PAG=461&dept_id=74969&rfi=6

He was found on 7/24/08 along the Hudson

[RR0004]

I saw the woman who's son was a friend of Patrick's (thought to be the 1st). I asked her if the family is still working with the detectives. She said they have been, but will probably stay out of the public's view. It's been difficult for their other son (supposedly the spitting image of his brother). They did win the lawsuit. This woman I spoke with said that Patrick definitely knew the way to get back to school. He did not get lost. The mother hated the way they portrayed him (drunk) and I got the feeling from talking to this gal that he wasn't nearly as drunk as they said he was (I just couldn't ask for numbers.) There was no "smiley face" found at the scene. Patrick did have issues of one of his quad matesat school (I think that's how she referred to it) . He refused to talk to investigators. I also found out that the doctor who delivered Patrick also delivered my kids. Life is strange.