Possible Victims: Vermont

[SeriouslySearching]

1) Nicholas Garza 19 yrs. Middlebury, VT (from Albuquerque, NM)

Missing- 02/05/08

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63297&highlight=nicholas+garza

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60275

[Salem]

Thanks SS for getting Nick Garza in here.

Prayers to Nick and his family,

Salem

[dark_shadows]

Gary Peterson has been researching the deaths of male college students long before this story came out.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

[Salem]

DS - who is Gary Peterson?

Salem

[dark_shadows]

My very dearest Salem,:blowkiss:
Hello to you my friend.
Wow I just saw that I did not finish my post!:blushing:
Gary Peterson is a man that vermontn03, her uncle and me had the honor of meeting saturday when we went to Moddlebury to help Natalie with the search for her son.
Please see this link and scroll to the bottom to see this;
http://www.findjodi.com/images/gary_missing.jpg (http://www.coldcaseclosed.com/)

Then click on this link;
http://www.findjodi.com/investigators.htm


So much Love and Respect for you,
dark_shadows

[Salem]

Thanks Dark Shadows!

And for all who are not watching the Nick Garza thead, it does appear that he is in the river. There are comments following some of the more recent media articles that also indicate there maybe "tags" in the area. I do not believe this is public information at this point and appears to only show up in the "comments."

Salem

[vermontn03]

dark_shadows and I have spoke with WPTZ news channel 5 for NY & VT. Please watch tomorrow night 5/6/08 @ 6pm, if you would like to know why we contacted them. We will answer any questions after the broadcast. We also contacted WPVI in PA pertaining to the link between the Thomas Booth & Nicholas Garza case.

[vermontn03]

:woohoo:WOOOOOOT HERE WE GO GUYS, IT FINALLY MADE IT.

THE VIDEO OF TOMMY BOOTH AND NICHOLAS GARZA UPDATED 30 MINUTES AGO.

NOW PROBABLY THINGS WILL START HITTING THE FAN.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6131011 (http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6131011)

[SuziQ]

Woo hoo! All it is going to take is for a few cases to be linked then the ball will get rolling. I'm going to put that vid in the drugs thread because of what the ME said about Tommy's case. That GHB would have passed through his system before autopsy. Thank you Vermont.

[SeriouslySearching]

Great video and great job! I noticed they said the ME noted that if the date rape drug had been used on the victim...it would have passed out of the system before autopsy. I found that to be VERY interesting.

ETA: LOL Suzi! We are on the same page again. :)

[SuziQ]

Great video and great job! I noticed they said the ME noted that if the date rape drug had been used on the victim...it would have passed out of the system before autopsy. I found that to be VERY interesting.

ETA: LOL Suzi! We are on the same page again. :)

Lmao, we usually are.

[dark_shadows]

Geraldo Rivera will be in Middlebury tomorrow to do a story on Nick Garza.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

[DeltaDawn]

Ah, the pressure is being applied through outside media. Middlebury LE will have to start cooperating with the independent search teams and the team from Maine that took the pictures of the creek in April and think they have spotted Nick in the Otter Creek..

Good work dark shadows, vermont03 and your uncle....you are angels to Nick and his mother Natalie.

[Blink34]

Geraldo Rivera will be in Middlebury tomorrow to do a story on Nick Garza.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

That is great news, was that in response to your efforts DS or is Geraldo doing a piece on the other cases as well?

[vermontn03]

Garza River Search Comes Up Empty


Middlebury, Vermont - May 9, 2008
Another underwater search for missing Middlebury College student Nick Garza produced no new clues.
A technical rescue team from Saranac, New York spent much of the day over a CVPS dam near the Weybridge-Middlebury town line in Otter Creek, looking under piles of debris.
The team from New York is headed home after two days of searching, but is planning to return to Middlebury at least one more time once water levels drop.

http://wcax.images.worldnow.com/images/8302750_BG1.jpgThursday




http://wcax.images.worldnow.com/images/8302750_BG2.jpg

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8302750

[Blink34]

I read this again on Nick's thread- and the pit in my gut for you, DS, Mrs. Garza and Uncle , looms. That being said, I felt it appropriate to thank and commend the S&R, and especially the divers who were involved in the search for Nick today. They are at risk for their own safety, and we thank you.

[vermontn03]

Dear Websleuthers,
I am Very Sorry that it wasnt on. I just spoke to Natalie and she says that it may be on tomorrow night because it had the presidents daughter on. So sorry to have you wait and it wasnt on. check again tomorrow night.

[nursebeeme]

vermontn03, you could not help that it was not on. So sad that the wedding of a low rating president's daughter takes the cake over a possible murder that is linked nationwide. That is a whole other conversation though, LOL. Thank you VM03.

[DeltaDawn]

Ah, are not all this people helping to find Nick angels on earth.. I agree that they go above and beyond to bring home the lost souls. I think all their mothers should be so very proud of the work they do.

I actually did get control over the remote..score one for the ladies.

[SeriouslySearching]

It was just on Geraldo and they ripped that evidence to shreds. :( Janine P. believes there is no connection, just drunk college kids, and stands by LE. The other talking head (didn't catch his name) was saying he has dealt with the FBI and it isn't like you see on tv...they don't investigate things all that well (or at least that was the gist of it).

[Blink34]

Janine P is a former NY criminal Judge turned Fox contributor, and I wish someone would check their facts and know the FBI has never conducted an independent investigation into this, and to simply say the FBI has looked into this is a misrepresentation.

[SeriouslySearching]

I totally agree! But then...since when do we know Geraldo's staff to be great fact checkers?! Sure would have saved him some unfortunate press of his own in the past!! LOL

[vermontn03]

BODY FOUND: Police recover remains from Otter Creek

MIDDLEBURY — Police have recovered the remains of an intact human male body from Otter Creek in what is likely a grim conclusion in the disappearance of a Middlebury College student.

Search-and-rescue teams from state and local police agencies pulled the body from the river at about 8:40 p.m.

Nicholas Garza, a 19-year-old freshman at Middlebury College, was last seen on campus Feb. 5. He was reported missing five days later, and Otter Creek has been the focus of several subsequent searches for clues into his disappearance.

A recovery operation was begun after Middlebury Police Chief Tom Hanley and Vermont (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080527/NEWS/80527041&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL#) State Police Lt. Jocelyn Stohl viewed “potential human remains” near the river’s surface at about 3:50 p.m. today during ongoing preparations for a Friday search.

The object of interest was sighted among sunken timber in a floating pile of debris below the falls in downtown Middlebury, police said. The afternoon’s operations were intended to take temperature readings and depth soundings in advance of a large-scale search of the river planned for week’s end

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080527/NEWS/80527041&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

[fran]

Thanks Vermont.

I'm in tears, but yet we knew it was going to end this way.

I guess it's better for the family to know than to live the rest of their life wondering and hoping.

My thoughts and prayers are with the Garza family.

May Nicholas now RIP.

:(
fran

[Reannan]

Does anyone know how far it would be from the dorm where Nick was last seen to Otter Creek??

[vermontn03]

Does anyone know how far it would be from the dorm where Nick was last seen to Otter Creek??

please go to Nicks thread in the missing/found located forum it is about a 1/2 mile or so. please we are all in shock and very sad at this time please just go to his threads. We are asking everyone to please read every post before posting. It just makes it so much easier instead of arguing on his thread. Thank you

[DeltaDawn]

Now the mystery begins of just how Nick ended up in Otter Creek?

I am glad they have found his body, Natalie and her family can now take her son home to New Mexico.

RIP Nick and grace and prayers to Natalie.

[Blink34]

[quote=vermontn03;2253761]BODY FOUND: Police recover remains from Otter Creek

MIDDLEBURY — Police have recovered the remains of an intact human male body from Otter Creek in what is likely a grim conclusion in the disappearance of a Middlebury College student.

Search-and-rescue teams from state and local police agencies pulled the body from the river at about 8:40 p.m.

Nicholas Garza, a 19-year-old freshman at Middlebury College, was last seen on campus Feb. 5. He was reported missing five days later, and Otter Creek has been the focus of several subsequent searches for clues into his disappearance.


V3- acknowledging on this thread what I told you this am- I'm here. Just tell us what Natalie and your team needs. But do this- rest, love your family, and regroup when you have strength. I got that advice from friends on here and it was true. My heart hurts, it makes no difference that we all were pretty sure this would be the outcome. The work is just begginning.