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Dark Knight
03-31-2007, 02:49 PM
It's the coldest of cold cases, and yet it keeps warming to life. Seventy years after Amelia Earhart disappeared, clues are still turning up. Long-dismissed notes taken of a shortwave distress call beginning, "This is Amelia Earhart...," are getting another look.

The previously unknown diary of an Associated Press reporter reveals a new perspective.

A team that has already found aircraft parts and pieces of a woman's shoe on a remote South Pacific atoll hopes to return there this year to search for more evidence, maybe even DNA.

If what's known now had been conveyed to searchers then, might Earhart and her navigator have been found alive? It's one of a thousand questions that keep the case from being declared dead, as Earhart herself was a year and a half after she vanished.

The extraordinary new info is at this link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070331/ap_on_re_us/search_for_amelia (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070331/ap_on_re_us/search_for_amelia)

dhchick04
03-31-2007, 04:10 PM
What an amazing story. I have been captivated by the disappearance since I was a little girl. Thanks for this.

Marilynilpa
04-03-2007, 05:56 PM
I read the article in the newspaper a day or so ago and was very intrigued. I came away with the impression that had people been aware that Amelia was truly lost, a more intensive search might have been conducted in the area where she last reported being.

The article mentions the heel from a (possible man's) shoe was found, as well as an woman's entire shoe. Since this is an island where the natives did not wear shoes, it is intriguing to speculate where these items came from.

I think someday this mystery will be solved once and for all.

gaia227
05-13-2008, 05:00 PM
I have searched this site for a thread on Amelia Earhart and cannot find one. I find this hard to believe! Earhart's disappearence is the most famous cold case and tantalizing missing persons case in history and I thought for sure I would find a thread about her.
It is possible she just crashed but there is a lot of theory's that she went down in the Marshall Islands and was captured by the Japanese and even speculation she was on a special top secret mission under FDR to 'crash' in the Marshall Islands and gather info. 2 teens with transistor radio insist they heard Amelia's distress calls the day after she disappeared. One of those people was still alive when the below article was written and she still insist on what she heard. At the time she had written it down in a note book and her father contacted the Coast Guard. Considering some of the artifacts that have been found on Gardner Island it seems plausible they crashed but survived for awhile.
As far fetched as some of these theories may get I find her disappearence fascinating.
Please point me in the direction of a thread about her on here if there is one and I shall delete this.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/home.php

http://www.tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/AEoverview.html

http://www.livescience.com/history/070401_ap_earhart.html

http://www.tighar.org/TTracks/12_2/logjam.html Itasca Logs

believe09
05-13-2008, 05:44 PM
i will dive in to discussion as soon as I have finished packing and moving, lol...

tempusfugit
05-13-2008, 05:48 PM
I've always been fascinated about Emilia's disappearance, would love to know what really became of her.

Trino
05-13-2008, 06:10 PM
tighar.org is the best resource for Amelia. They have spent years, including visits, to possible sources of her disappearance.

michelle
05-13-2008, 06:13 PM
tighar.org is the best resource for Amelia. They have spent years, including visits, to possible sources of her disappearance.
I am going to check out that site.

gaia227
05-13-2008, 07:55 PM
Wow, so there really wasn't a thread for Amelia. I thought for sure someone would be like, old news here's the thread.

tighar.org has a TON of information. Very interesting.

The History Channel had a special on about her disappearence over the weekend which is what re-sparked my interest. I am excited to hear people's theories and sources of information. Can't spend much time right now - American Idol is on!

Trino
05-13-2008, 10:22 PM
Not much discussion from me. I've followed tighar.org for years, and I think they've been serious in all their searches and are "right on" with theories about Nikumaroro. I note that tighar has changed it's format a bit, allowing people to discuss ideas.

One thing that surprised me, however, from what I've read about Amelia is that she may not have been the best woman flier but the publicity generated by her husband made it seem so.

AmandaBrown23
05-13-2008, 11:49 PM
I am so glad someone started this. I just wrote an englsih paper on her. i have always wanted to know what really happened to her since I was a kid.

gaia227
05-15-2008, 11:01 AM
I also tend to go with the Nikumaroro theory. The discovery's they have found there are pretty convincing. In 2007, TIGHAR went back and found a lighter, a zipper and snaps, and most intriguing an AMERICAN pocket knife.
The cover-up, sealed documents, etc that ensued suggest to me not some top secret mission but rather the Coast Guard trying to protect themselves from the mistakes which were made that day. The incidences of mis-communication are amazing. The Itasca broadcasting on the wrong frequency, using morse code when Amelia made it clear she didn't know morse code, etc.
Eventhough I find Nikumaroro the most compelling I can't ignore the 'eye-witness' accounts that came out of the Marshall Island, Saipan and other locales in Japan. As we know, eye-witness accounts are not the most reliable but these people obviously saw people they believed could be Earhart and Noonan. They can't all be lying. But, of course, they could all be mistaken.
Is it possible they landed at Nikumaroro, were there for a few days and then picked up by the Japanese? I know Niku was Britain's territory and it seems a little out of the way but......
From http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0299.shtml - much longer article but I have just included the part about them possibly being taken prisoner.

Other evidence that Earhart and Noonan ended up as Japanese prisoners comes from residents of various islands administered by Japan and US servicemen who served in the Pacific during the war. Many researchers have maintained that if Earhart could not find Howland Island, a contingency plan was to fly northwest to the Marshall Islands held by Japan. Natives of the Marshalls and the island of Saipan in the Marianas much further west have told tales of two American aviators, a man and a woman, being held there around 1937 to 1939. While it is virtually impossible the Electra could have flown all the way to Saipan, it is conceivable that Earhart and Noonan landed on or near the Marshalls and were brought to Saipan.

One of the most popular of these theories claims the Electra crash-landed at the Mili Atoll where, after several days, its crew was picked up by a Japanese fishing boat. The flyers were then taken to another island, probably Jaluit, where Noonan received medical treatment for cuts received in the crash. The two were moved again to Kwajalein and ultimately imprisoned at Saipan. In 1960, a woman named Josephine Akiyama who had lived on Saipan came forward suggesting she had seen two Americans being held on the island in 1937. Four other native women also told stories of a thin foreign woman with short hair cut like that of a man who was on Saipan around the time. They said the woman had been a pilot who was captured spying after her plane crashed to the south. Additionally, some of the women remembered excitement about an aircraft with a broken wing being transported aboard a Japanese ship. The natives also said the foreigner was kept under guard and looked sickly. They went on to suggest that the woman was either killed or died of illness and was buried on the island.
These stories caught the interest of a CBS Radio correspondent named Fred Goerner who traveled to Saipan in the 1960s looking for evidence to solve the Earhart mystery. While some 50 residents claimed to remember two American aviators, no official documentation of their presence could be located. Goerner hired divers to search Saipan's harbor for aircraft wreckage, and although some was found, it was from a Japanese plane and not the Electra. Goerner also looked into rumors from a US serviceman who said he was shown graves of the two flyers while stationed on Saipan in 1945. Although bodies were uncovered, they did not match those of Earhart or Noonan. Another US soldier who served on the island even claimed that he watched as fellow Americans destroyed a Lockheed Electra stored in a Japanese hanger at Saipan's airfield. Perhaps Goerner's most extreme contention is that US servicemen recovered the pair's bodies which may still be in the possession of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. He also maintained that some of his theories were confirmed by no less than Admiral Chester Nimitz who commanded the US Pacific Fleet during the war. Despite the lack of success finding compelling evidence placing Earhart and Noonan on these islands, at least ten other expeditions to the Marshalls and Marianas have continued to seek clues to the fate of the famous flyers. One of the most recent was to the island of Tinian just south of Saipan. A US Marine named Saint John Naftel who was stationed on the island in 1945 says he was shown two graves where the Japanese had supposedly executed and buried Earhart and Noonan. Archaeologist Jennings Bunn tested the theory by organizing an excavation of the site, but no remains of any kind were found. Additional excavations have been conducted elsewhere on Saipan near locations where rumors suggest the aviators were held, but no trace of their remains have been found. Still other rumors place the pair on the island of Truk (now called Chuuk) or at a prisoner of war camp in the Philippines, China, or mainland Japan.

iconoclast
05-15-2008, 12:01 PM
From what I've read, the TIGHAR people make a pretty compelling case for the Nikumaroro theory. My problem with the Japanese-capture theory is this: it would have taken an ironclad conspiracy of huge size. If as "they" say FDR knew about it when it happened, why has nothing turned up, even with all the efforts since the 80s to discredit his presidency? Then if there was no political conspiracy, evidence would certainly have been collected after the war and occupation of the Mandates. All the "evidence" we have is third-hand and conveniently omits such things as photos, aircraft parts, specific locations, etc.

Problem with "secret" conspiracies is, someone usually speaks up. Until that happens convincingly, I'm going to have to relegate the capture theory to the Tinfoil Hat Brigade.

gaia227
05-15-2008, 01:22 PM
Sure, iconoclast I agree. I am just looking at different theories that have become prevalent over the last few decades. You make a good point regarding the efforts in the 80's to discredit FDR - if he was involved it would have most likely come out then.

kline
05-17-2008, 04:06 AM
This is a facinating case.
And there are some compeling theories.
Although I think If I had to pick one I think they probably did simply run out of fuel and take it in to the ocean though it wouldnt surprise me if one day the wreck is found.
Wouldnt that be something,

gaia227
06-25-2009, 12:36 PM
Bumping!

Laura_Bean
06-25-2009, 02:05 PM
Did u guys see the Unsolved Mysteries on Amelia Earhart? It was really interesting. There was this guy who was in the army. He says they arrived on this island that had been inhabited by the Japanese during part of the war, and he found all of these flight documents about Amelia. He showed them to his commanding officer who right away started yelling to have them BURNED. Right than and there. And supposedly he was told to NEVER tell anyone about them. Welp, he did eventually tell Unsolved Mysteries. A woman who was living on the island at the time, told Unsolved Mysteries the two of them were picked up and believed to have been spies. When neither of the crew revealed any secrets, they were believed to have been lying. She directed these people to where she believed Amelia was killed. No bones were found, but a blindfold was, and the woman had said that Amelia was blindfolded when she was killed right at that spot.

Interesting... Very Interesting. Another person from an island close by said when he was a child, he and his friends played in the water in an airplane that had gone down in that water. They hadn't seen bodies, but they said they used to climb on the plane that had crashed in that water.

gaia227
06-25-2009, 02:24 PM
I have seen that before but i can't find it on UM website now.

THe theory that Amelia and Fred ditched and ended up on Marshall Islands has been a prevailing one. Some people believe they really were spies working for FDR but that is the least viable theory, imo.

I do tend to think they survived the initial crash. In the TIGHAR files they document the radio signals that went out in the days following the disappearence and those are pretty compelling.

Since overview of the the 3 prevailing theories:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/12/1215_031215_ameliaearhart.html

Hilary Swank is playing Amelia in a new movie. Hopefully it will be done well. I saw pics from set and Hilary really does look like her once she is in 'costume.' Amelia was a very striking, attractive woman - I could actually see someone like Cate Blanchete playing her but oh well.

Laura_Bean
06-25-2009, 03:15 PM
I just read the story from the link you sent. Wow. Very interesting. Thank you.

gaia227
06-25-2009, 04:52 PM
http://www.tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/AEoverview.html

It wasn’t until the summer of 1997, months after the expedition that found the campfire, that a file was found in the national archives of the Republic of Kiribati in Tarawa which confirmed the legend as historical fact with sixteen pieces of official British colonial correspondence. Human remains, the sole of a woman’s shoe, a Benedictine bottle, a campfire and other artifacts were indeed found on the island in 1940 at a site which fits the description of the one later found by TIGHAR. The Colonial Service officer in charge of the island suspected that the castaway who had died at the primitive campsite might have been Amelia Earhart. The bones and artifacts were sent to British headquarters in Fiji for examination and the matter was declared “strictly secret.” In April of 1941, an analysis of the bones by a physician concluded that the individual was probably a muscular middle-aged male of European descent, and that is where the matter appears to have ended. Later that year, other events in the Pacific overshadowed any remaining curiosity about an unidentified castaway on a minor atoll.

With the war the findings of a man's remains wouldn't not have been that extraordinary but now looking back at the findings in the 40's it seems a good chance the evidence they found belonged to Amelia and Fred.

I want to post the radio signals that were heard in the days after the crash that are believed to be Amelia trying to get help. I will have to dig around for it.

gaia227
06-25-2009, 04:59 PM
Diary of AP reporter who followed Amelia and was there at ISTASCA was found in 2007. This article talks about the distress calls heard.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,263087,00.html
Meanwhile, several shortwave radio listeners as far away as the U.S. mainland were picking up the faint voices of a woman and a man, sending apparent distress calls. And both the Itasca and a New Zealand cruiser, HMS Achilles, reported what seemed to be Morse code "dashes."

Among reports of voice messages, two from teenagers using shortwave antennas rigged by their fathers were most disturbingly credible.
In Rock Springs, Wyo., Dana Randolph, 16, heard a voice say, "This is Amelia Earhart. Ship is on a reef south of the equator." Radio experts, aware that "harmonic" frequencies in mid-ocean often could be heard far inland, viewed the report as genuine.
Turning the shortwave dial in St. Petersburg, Fla., 15-year-old Betty Klenck was startled to hear a woman say, "This is Amelia Earhart Putnam," followed by pleas for help and agitated conversation with a man who, the girl thought, sounded irrational.
Having heard Earhart's voice in movie newsreels, she had no doubt that it was her.
"In my mind, a picture of her and what she was saying lasted for years. I remembered it every night of my life," Betty Klenck Brown, now 84 and widowed, said in a recent telephone interview from her home in California.
The man, she recalls, "seemed coherent at times, then would go out of his head. He said his head hurt ... She was trying mainly to keep him from getting out of the plane, telling him to come back to his seat, because she couldn't leave the radio.
"She was trying to get somebody to hear her, and as the hours went by she became more frantic."
Betty listened for nearly two hours, taking notes in a school composition notebook as the signals faded in and out. They ended when the fliers "were leaving the plane, because the water was knee-deep on her side," she said.
She believes she may be the last living person to have heard Earhart's distress calls.
Her father, Kenneth, who also heard the voices, contacted the Coast Guard at St. Petersburg, but was brushed off with assurances that the service was fully engaged in searching for the fliers, she said. "He got mad and chucked the whole thing because of the way he was treated."
Both teenagers' accounts would support TIGHAR's premise that Earhart crash-landed on Gardner's flat reef at low tide, was able to run its right engine to power the radio, and escaped the aircraft before tides eventually carried it off the reef into deep water.
On July 18, 16 days after Earhart and Noonan disappeared, the Navy and Coast Guard ended what the AP called "the greatest search ever undertaken in behalf of a lost flier." To justify the official finding that the Electra was lost at sea, the government dismissed the radio distress calls as hoaxes or misunderstandings.
Betty Klenck Brown's response today: "I know I am right."

shadowangel
06-25-2009, 05:27 PM
As I recall, a review of the 1940's report on the remains (conducted in '98 or '99 I think) indicated that the remains were in fact those of a tall female of European descent. The evidence found by TIGHAR on Nikumaroro is intriguing, to say the least. The shoe sole is known to be of similar size to that worn by Amelia, and is of brand she is believed to have worn (from photographic evidence). Much has been made of the sheetmetal found on the island, and I recall experts on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries stating that the rivet pattern did not match that of any area on an Electra. However, Amelia's plan had been modified, not to mention hastily repaired after it crashed on take-off from a repair stop at Pearl Harbor.

travelgal
06-25-2009, 07:20 PM
Hi Gaia227! I did not notice this thread until today. I have been a fan of Amelia since I read a biography about her when I was in the 1st grade. The book was not very big and the bio was brief but it was enough to get me hooked. I live in KS and when I found out that she spent a large portion of her life at her grandparent's in Atchison, KS I was really hooked. My parents took me to see her gp's home, library, etc. She has been a role model for me (not that I was as adventurous as Amelia) most of my life. I have read books and followed the stories of the recent development of the mystery off and on. I am just thrilled you started this thread and I look forward to reading all of the posts and links provided here to try to get up to date on this unsolved case.

gaia227
06-25-2009, 08:24 PM
Hi Gaia227! I did not notice this thread until today. I have been a fan of Amelia since I read a biography about her when I was in the 1st grade. The book was not very big and the bio was brief but it was enough to get me hooked. I live in KS and when I found out that she spent a large portion of her life at her grandparent's in Atchison, KS I was really hooked. My parents took me to see her gp's home, library, etc. She has been a role model for me (not that I was as adventurous as Amelia) most of my life. I have read books and followed the stories of the recent development of the mystery off and on. I am just thrilled you started this thread and I look forward to reading all of the posts and links provided here to try to get up to date on this unsolved case.


I look forward to hearing your input as you have followed her life and kept up with her disappearence.

I was looking at a big picture of her today and was struck at how stunning she was. Judging from the pics it appears she was very tall.

She is a very interesting woman regardless of her mysterious end. She was a real trailblazer in aviation and more importantly in what was acceptable for a female in the 20's and 30's. She did not let convention keep her down. I have a lot of respect for her. She was definitely her own woman.

Lurker Steve
06-25-2009, 11:42 PM
Ham guy here...

I find it pretty very that some kids in the Rockies or Florida would be picking up Earhart's distress call. Why?

She was broadcasting at 50W, and using a V-type antenna (i.e. "rabbit ears")

If I want to send a message to you locally using 50W, I could use a cheap antenna to broadcast, though it wouldn't be very efficient. It's especially inefficient because Earhart would have wanted to broadcast in all directions, since she was lost, so the energy from her transmitter would be spread out. The V-type is good at receiving, but not so good at transmitting.

Also, Earhart would have wanted to make sure her signal was picked up locally, i.e. by Navy ships and other possible rescuers. The way you position your antenna is different (and also the frequencies you use, but that is another matter.) Think about it this way: if I wanted to send a radio transmission to (say) Europe on limited power, I need to have my signal bounce off the ionosphere at some point between here and Europe, and back down. That means I need to effectively point my antenna 'up'. But that also means that my signal wouldn't get picked up between those points.

Earhart and Noonan knew enough about radio to make sure that the signal was picked up locally. Sending it to a far-off land would only do them good if someone was listening on that particular frequency, at the time they were broadcasting.

Second, the frequencies that Earhart and Noonan were using are HF frequencies (which is what you want for long-distance communications) but at the time were allocated for aviation-only use, and it's unlikely that some kids would not only have the equipment to change the tuning frequencies on the radio (probably a crystal change back then), but also modify their antenna so it could pick up transmissions ON that frequency (yes it matters, my antenna is fine for some transmissions and lousy for others), and at the right angle to the sky to hear them. Oh, and they'd have to know what frequency she was using, or be "in the right place at the right time."

It's far more likely that the kids either lied or someone was playing a trick on them.

travelgal
06-26-2009, 01:41 AM
I look forward to hearing your input as you have followed her life and kept up with her disappearence.

I was looking at a big picture of her today and was struck at how stunning she was. Judging from the pics it appears she was very tall.

She is a very interesting woman regardless of her mysterious end. She was a real trailblazer in aviation and more importantly in what was acceptable for a female in the 20's and 30's. She did not let convention keep her down. I have a lot of respect for her. She was definitely her own woman.

There are displays of her clothing & luggage designs as well as other pieces from her ward robe at the Amelia Earhart Birthplace Museum in Atchison, KS. I was very amazed at her long slender body as evident in her clothing. I believe she was one of the first women of her time to wear pants in public most of the time. Her love letters to her hubby, George Putnam, are there also. Quite an interesting place. Here is a link to more info:

http://www.ameliaearhartmuseum.org/

Also every July there is an Amelia Earhart Festival:

July 17-18, 2009
Amelia Earhart Festival
13th annual celebration. Friday evening LakeFest concert at Warnock Lake featuring Rodney Atkins, Little Big Town and Jack Ingram. Click HERE for more information on LakeFest 2009, including ticket information. Other highlights include a downtown fair with arts & crafts, live entertainment, food vendors and children’s activities, panel discussions with authors and researchers, award luncheon, carnival rides, aerobatic performances, aviation displays, and spectacular fireworks over the Missouri River. Call 800-234-1854 or or CLICK HERE for more Amelia Earhart Festival information.

Atchison is quite an interesting town about 45 min NW of Kansas City. I have escorted groups to visit Atchison, so I can fill you in on the many things to do if you are ever interested in a visit!

gaia227
06-26-2009, 11:04 AM
There are displays of her clothing & luggage designs as well as other pieces from her ward robe at the Amelia Earhart Birthplace Museum in Atchison, KS. I was very amazed at her long slender body as evident in her clothing. I believe she was one of the first women of her time to wear pants in public most of the time. Her love letters to her hubby, George Putnam, are there also. Quite an interesting place. Here is a link to more info:

http://www.ameliaearhartmuseum.org/

Also every July there is an Amelia Earhart Festival:

July 17-18, 2009
Amelia Earhart Festival
13th annual celebration. Friday evening LakeFest concert at Warnock Lake featuring Rodney Atkins, Little Big Town and Jack Ingram. Click HERE for more information on LakeFest 2009, including ticket information. Other highlights include a downtown fair with arts & crafts, live entertainment, food vendors and children’s activities, panel discussions with authors and researchers, award luncheon, carnival rides, aerobatic performances, aviation displays, and spectacular fireworks over the Missouri River. Call 800-234-1854 or or CLICK HERE for more Amelia Earhart Festival information.

Atchison is quite an interesting town about 45 min NW of Kansas City. I have escorted groups to visit Atchison, so I can fill you in on the many things to do if you are ever interested in a visit!

Thanks TG - I am actually from Missouri and come home to visit at least once a year. My home base in Springfield which is about 3 hours from KC.

In addition to being the home of Amelia Atchinson is also considered to be one of the most haunted cities in America.

gaia227
06-26-2009, 11:17 AM
This video contains the interviews of 3 WWII American Vets who were on Saipan during the war.

Laura_Bean - they interview the guy who says he found Amelia's briefcase containing all her papers, airplane papers, visa, etc. Also interviews with a man who claims he saw her on 4 occaisions on Saipan and another man who watched the U.S. military blow up her plane after it was found.

What Really Happened to Amelia Earhart

gaia227
06-26-2009, 11:24 AM
Remember the show In Search Of hosted by Leonard Nimoy?

YouTube - 1-15 In Search Of... Amelia Earhart (Part 1 of 3) (part 1)

YouTube - 1-15 In Search Of... Amelia Earhart (Part 2 of 3) (part 2)

YouTube - 1-15 In Search Of... Amelia Earhart (Part 3 of 3) (part 3)

shadowangel
06-26-2009, 05:17 PM
I remember the show when it was originally broadcast.... Sheesh, Im getting old.

George Noory, on his Coast to Coast AM late-night radio show, has discussed at length the phenomenon of military broadcasts in the South Pacific being picked up thousands of miles away---even though those same broadcasts were not heard by stations much closer.
Similar reports were received after the disappearance of Flight 19 off Florida in 1945, and also after the disappearance of the Star Ariel passenger liner in 1948.

The last radio transmissions from Amelia will always be a major point of contention in the mystery. The Electra had been outfitted with a directional loop antenna, which at that time were very new. Some involved in the investigation have stated the belief that Amelia was unfamiliar with the operation of the antenna. Ive also read that Amelia and Noonan made the decision to cut their 'hanging wire" antenna, as they did not want to reel the cable in after each use.

gaia227
06-29-2009, 10:50 AM
I know nothing about radio transmissions and how they work especially in regards to antenna's. I thought I had read somewhere that they had lost their radio antenna when they took off and didn't know it. ISTACA could hear her but she couldn't hear them because of it. I am not sure if that is true or not.

I love Coast to Coast. I have never caught a show where he is talking about what you mentioned. Interesting. Do they have any theories as to why that happens in the S. Pacific?

Hockeynut
10-22-2009, 01:22 PM
Hello all. Just to add to the mystery, or maybe explain some of it, here are my personal observations.

From 1974 to 1976 I was stationed on Saipan in the US Coast Guard at the Coast Guard Loran Station. I arrived there as an 18 year old from New Jersey, and was somewhat interested in the WWII island history since my uncle had been a Coast Guard coxwain on one of the landing crafts that put Marines on the beach when the invasion began.

While I was stationed there I was shown a memorial stone that had Amelia Earhart's name on it with an inscription, can't remember what the inscription said or even if it was in English, but I did see it and I just confirmed that is was seen by one of my other shipmates as well. I also married a local Saipanese girl and had asked my mother-in-law if Amelia Earhart was actually buried where the stone was, and she said that she had been buried there. My mother in law (now deceased) was born in 1916 so she would have been in her early 20's during this time period. It didn't mean too much to me back in 1975 because I just assumed that Earhart was buried there and that was all there was to it. But it does mean something now, with the new movie supposed to be splashing the silver screen this Friday. I just ordered the latest paperback publication of the book of her disappearance and intend to watch the movie.

I've done some extensive research to determine if anyone has ever mentioned seeing or excavating the memorial in Saipan, but I have found none, with the exception of my shipmates who have also seen the memorial.

Next time I go back to Saipan, I may just see if I can find that thing. I vaguely remember where it was but things have changed so much out there (commercial development) it may be impossible at this point.

If anyone has heard that the memorial stone that I refer to has already been investigated, let me know and I'll apologize for wasting your time.

shadowangel
01-11-2010, 12:24 PM
It's being reported this morning that in the spring of 2009, About 20 staffers from the Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute took part in a hush-hush search for Amelia's Electra in the Pacific near her last reported position. No wreckage or other evidence of what happened to Amelia or her navigator, Fred Noonan, was discovered; however, members of the expedition still deem it a success because of the scientific information compiled and discoveries made along the way, including a new species of deep-water fish and the mapping of about 2,500 nautical square miles of the ocean floor. The expedition used two autonomous underwater vehicles, nicknamed Ginger and MaryAnn, to sweep the ocean floor.

Its good to see that this mystery is still generating interest within scientific circles.

gaia227
01-11-2010, 01:15 PM
Interesting. Thanks for posting. Here are a couple links:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/fl-treasurecoast-amelia-20100111,0,5916777.story

http://www.oceantreasures.org/blog,harbor-branch-part-of-hush-hush-search-for-amelia-earhart-s-plane,202100.html

gaia227
12-12-2010, 03:59 PM
Finger bone found on Nikumaroro could be Amelia's. Forensic testing is being done. That would be amazing wouldn't it? If we finally knew for certain what happened to her.

http://news.discovery.com/history/amelia-earhart-castaway-finger-bone-101210.html

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
12-12-2010, 05:03 PM
Very interesting article, gaia!

Richard
12-12-2010, 06:09 PM
...George Noory, on his Coast to Coast AM late-night radio show, has discussed at length the phenomenon of military broadcasts in the South Pacific being picked up thousands of miles away---even though those same broadcasts were not heard by stations much closer. ...
The last radio transmissions from Amelia will always be a major point of contention in the mystery. The Electra had been outfitted with a directional loop antenna, which at that time were very new. Some involved in the investigation have stated the belief that Amelia was unfamiliar with the operation of the antenna. Ive also read that Amelia and Noonan made the decision to cut their 'hanging wire" antenna, as they did not want to reel the cable in after each use.

Today we have handheld cell phones with internal antennas which can link us to satillites and back down to anywhere on earth. But back in Amelia Earhart's day, Aircraft and ships used High Frequency or HF radios for communication. This meant the need for a long wire antenna, and often for the use of Morse Code rather than voice signals.

In modern aircraft such as a C-130, the HF radio antenna is a long wire which stretches from the front top of the aircraft to the tip of the vertical stabilizer (the top of the tail). Amelia's plane was not as long as a C-130, and to get the necessary length on the HF radio, they had to trail the wire out behind the plane. Because of the possibility of entangling it in the tail or wing controls, they may have elected to jettison it after each use.

The comment about Amelia's signals being picked up by distant stations but not by closer ones is very typical of HF radio transmission theory. HF signals bounce off the Ionosphere at night time and can be picked up as "sky waves" by distant stations because these signals tend to "skip", hitting some places and missing others.

Close stations can pick up the HF signal via "ground waves" which have not bounced off the ionosphere. Because of static, voice signals would often be attenuated to the point of not being understood, while Morse Code - a series of dots and dashes could be more easily picked up even through static and at greater distances.

The directional antenna mentioned is not for transmitting, but rather for receiving signals and for navigational purposes. Looking at a photo of Amelia's Electra aircraft, one can clearly see this antenna. It is a ring or loop on a stick extending downward from the nose of the aircraft. It works like the old AM radios which had to be turned to pick up a stronger signal. When turned to pick up the maximum signal strength, you could get a relative bearing from the aircraft to the transmitting station. Knowing the location of the station, you could draw on your chart/map a reciprocal bearing which would go through your projected track, thus giving you a line of position. A pilot could turn into that bearing/signal and fly to the station IF that was the destination.

Unfortunately, it was easy to get a "Back Bearing" or a reciprocal bearing reading on the ADF (Automatic Direction Finder) antenna because the loop could get a reading on either side of the loop of equal strength. Thus, if the station was 90 degrees from your position, it might also be read incorrectly as the reciprocal of 90 degrees, which would be 270 degrees.

Some investigators theorized that Amelia may have thought that she had a back bearing and was running in different directions to see if she could resolve the problem and get a good bearing to home on before running out of fuel.

LinasK
12-13-2010, 02:39 AM
Interesting that this topic came up, because just last night my husband and I were watching a program that concluded that most likely Amelia & her navigator crashed on Gardner (re-named N_____(?sp)) Island because she ran out of gas before she reached her destination of Howell Island. These researchers appeared very credible because they have been researching her for many years. They interviewed the woman in Florida who was a teenager and heard Amelia's distress calls back in 1937 and had taken extensive notes, and explained how the signals could have bounced off the atmosphere and that Amelia was using a very powerful radio to transmit. They found the coordinates from where her plan most likely went down- also they spotted a plane tire in a photo in that location of a coral reef-and spotted some wire under the surface, but their G.P.S. got destroyed by getting too close to their boat's propeller, so they couldn't go back to find it. They also found a skeleton whose bones were the same height Amelia would have been and artifacts like the penknife aboard her plane, a woman's shoe, a sextant, glass bottles for hand lotion, and a woman's compact, and an American-made metal zipper from the 1930's.(Amelia was known to carry make-up with her in case of press conferences). That sealed the deal for me...
They concluded that because of several campfires with fish and other animal bones that Amelia and her navigator died of dehydration or other natural causes.

LinasK
12-13-2010, 02:41 AM
I look forward to hearing your input as you have followed her life and kept up with her disappearence.

I was looking at a big picture of her today and was struck at how stunning she was. Judging from the pics it appears she was very tall.

She is a very interesting woman regardless of her mysterious end. She was a real trailblazer in aviation and more importantly in what was acceptable for a female in the 20's and 30's. She did not let convention keep her down. I have a lot of respect for her. She was definitely her own woman.
She was 5'7".

gaia227
12-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Interesting that this topic came up, because just last night my husband and I were watching a program that concluded that most likely Amelia & her navigator crashed on Gardner (re-named N_____(?sp)) Island because she ran out of gas before she reached her destination of Howell Island. These researchers appeared very credible because they have been researching her for many years. They interviewed the woman in Florida who was a teenager and heard Amelia's distress calls back in 1937 and had taken extensive notes, and explained how the signals could have bounced off the atmosphere and that Amelia was using a very powerful radio to transmit. They found the coordinates from where her plan most likely went down- also they spotted a plane tire in a photo in that location of a coral reef-and spotted some wire under the surface, but their G.P.S. got destroyed by getting too close to their boat's propeller, so they couldn't go back to find it. They also found a skeleton whose bones were the same height Amelia would have been and artifacts like the penknife aboard her plane, a woman's shoe, a sextant, glass bottles for hand lotion, and a woman's compact, and an American-made metal zipper from the 1930's.(Amelia was known to carry make-up with her in case of press conferences). That sealed the deal for me...
They concluded that because of several campfires with fish and other animal bones that Amelia and her navigator died of dehydration or other natural causes.


I think the group you are referring to is TIGHAR. Here is their website. It has a lot of info regarding their research into Amelia's disappearence.

http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Overview/AEhypothesis.html

Steely Dan
12-16-2010, 10:01 PM
Link (http://news.discovery.com/history/amelia-earhart-castaway-finger-bone-101210.html)

Amelia Earhart's Finger Bone Recovered?
A tiny bone fragment collected on a remote tropical island could be turtle -- or it could belong to the legendary pilot, researchers say.

By Rossella Lorenzi
Fri Dec 10, 2010 09:25 AM ET

THE GIST

* A bone fragment found on a remote island in the Pacific is being investigated as possible remains of Amelia Earhart.
* Initially researchers believed it was turtle bone.
* Only DNA testing can confirm whether the fragment is, in fact, human.



http://news.discovery.com/history/2010/12/10/bone-fragment-278x225.jpg

Turtle or human bone? Researchers recovered the fragment from a remote island in the Pacific Ocean where, they believe, Amelia Earhart may have perished as a castaway. Click to enlarge this image.
Courtesy of Ric Gillespie/ Tighar


http://www.unmuseum.org/earhartp.jpghttp://www.kendallgiles.com/kegblog/turtle3_web.jpg


I'm sorry, but I just don't see any resemblance. :waitasec:

Steely Dan
12-17-2010, 03:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4COKAGaGN9U&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_3lxO1vUQ&feature=related

smile22
04-14-2011, 03:12 PM
saw the movie on hbo last night this case has always fascinated me. in the endings of the move it shows her calling out to the itasca something was wrong with her radio and so was the itasca. the itasca also had problems with something else that would have aided them in searching for her but the thing was left on all night and was dead.

smile22
04-14-2011, 03:18 PM
http://tighar.org
"The Earhart Project is testing the hypothesis that Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan landed, and eventually died, on Gardner Island, now Nikumaroro in the Republic of Kiribati. Now in its 23rd year, a major underwater search is planned for July 2012, the 75th anniversary of the flight."

belimom
04-14-2011, 03:47 PM
Don't we have two threads on this... ? Let me find the other one.

ETA: Here it is - I've asked the mods to merge the other one into this one...

Okla. tests inconclusive in Amelia Earhart search - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

smile22
04-15-2011, 05:47 PM
there was a book written by a man who claimed a nj women was in fact amelia and lived under another name until her death he did lots of research on the suposed women who was amelia. Amelia Earhart Lives was the book and it was taken off the shelves soon after it went to print saying the book was based on lies and such you can still get the book on amazon.com

Steely Dan
04-16-2011, 12:22 AM
there was a book written by a man who claimed a nj women was in fact amelia and lived under another name until her death he did lots of research on the suposed women who was amelia. Amelia Earhart Lives was the book and it was taken off the shelves soon after it went to print saying the book was based on lies and such you can still get the book on amazon.com

IIRC, that woman hated that guy. She was hounded by the media and she wasn't Amelia Earhart. She had a provable history going back to birth.

Reality Orlando
04-16-2011, 12:56 AM
It's being reported this morning that in the spring of 2009, About 20 staffers from the Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute took part in a hush-hush search for Amelia's Electra in the Pacific near her last reported position. No wreckage or other evidence of what happened to Amelia or her navigator, Fred Noonan, was discovered; however, members of the expedition still deem it a success because of the scientific information compiled and discoveries made along the way, including a new species of deep-water fish and the mapping of about 2,500 nautical square miles of the ocean floor. The expedition used two autonomous underwater vehicles, nicknamed Ginger and MaryAnn, to sweep the ocean floor.

Its good to see that this mystery is still generating interest within scientific circles.

Due to my line of work, I've spent time at Harbor Branch and have up close contact with the "subs". Those things are amazing. I can only imagine how awesome it would be to go down in one. I can only imagine if her plane was anywhere those subs were roaming, they'd have found her.

smile22
04-16-2011, 06:58 AM
IIRC, that woman hated that guy. She was hounded by the media and she wasn't Amelia Earhart. She had a provable history going back to birth.

true i did find a website that said her son said that the irene women was not who he remembered from his childhood the theory was that this irene did pass away but the family covered it up amelia survives and takes this womens id. i also found a website that says the government knows what happened to her and covered it up. if they truly did know what happened to her it would have been sad

Ransom
03-20-2012, 04:58 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2012/03/20/nr-new-amelia-earhart-expedition.cnn

Steely Dan
03-20-2012, 07:25 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2012/03/20/nr-new-amelia-earhart-expedition.cnn

I wish they had shown the photo.

Ransom
03-20-2012, 07:47 PM
I wish they had shown the photo.

Me too. I'm looking for it, but no luck so far.

Might be this one. Scroll down to top of page 14 and bottom of page 13.
http://tighar.org/Publications/TTracks/2010Vol_26/whereelectra.pdf

Steely Dan
03-20-2012, 08:22 PM
Me too. I'm looking for it, but no luck so far.

Might be this one. Scroll down to top of page 14 and bottom of page 13.
http://tighar.org/Publications/TTracks/2010Vol_26/whereelectra.pdf

Thanks, I found this too.

http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh396/Rfeynman/nikumaroro-map.jpg

Ransom
03-21-2012, 02:01 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57401423/photo-a-new-clue-in-amelia-earhart-case/

at about 57 sec. pause and you'll see what is believed to be the landing gear of AE plane. It's near the old wrecked ship.

Steely Dan
03-21-2012, 02:16 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57401423/photo-a-new-clue-in-amelia-earhart-case/

at about 57 sec. pause and you'll see what is believed to be the landing gear of AE plane. It's near the old wrecked ship.

Thanks.

I'm convinced Nikumaoro is where she landed/crashed. I think there is more than enough evidence to support it. I hope they can find the plane because it may give us insight into what exactly happened. Was she shot down by the Japanese or have navigational problems or system failure of some sort?

Steely Dan
03-21-2012, 02:33 PM
I think this answers all the questions we have about the upcoming trip and why they haven't found wreckage on the island. Evidently there is a sharp drop off on the reef that nobodies been able to get to before.

Finding Amelia Earhart - YouTube

Ransom
03-21-2012, 03:05 PM
Thanks.

I'm convinced Nikumaoro is where she landed/crashed. I think there is more than enough evidence to support it. I hope they can find the plane because it may give us insight into what exactly happened. Was she shot down by the Japanese or have navigational problems or system failure of some sort?

I think she's there too. I hope they find some conclusive evidence. I wonder what happened to Noonan since everything seems to point to a female "remains"?

Steely Dan
03-21-2012, 03:23 PM
He was either killed in the crash or perhaps went back for something when the plane tumbled off the reef. That's why finding the wreckage would be interesting.

LinasK
03-21-2012, 03:38 PM
Thanks.

I'm convinced Nikumaoro is where she landed/crashed. I think there is more than enough evidence to support it. I hope they can find the plane because it may give us insight into what exactly happened. Was she shot down by the Japanese or have navigational problems or system failure of some sort?
Was Nikumaoro the new name for Gardner Island?? Hillary Clinton is funding the new investigation!:woohoo:

Steely Dan
03-21-2012, 03:46 PM
Was Nikumaoro the new name for Gardner Island?? Hillary Clinton is funding the new investigation!:woohoo:

I don't think she's funding it, but is a spokesperson because the government is contributing a little.

Nikumaoro is a new name, I forget what the old name was.

LinasK
03-21-2012, 03:50 PM
Nikumaoro is a new name, I forget what the old name was.
If so, I believe it's her!


Interesting that this topic came up, because just last night my husband and I were watching a program that concluded that most likely Amelia & her navigator crashed on Gardner (re-named N_____(?sp)) Island because she ran out of gas before she reached her destination of Howell Island. These researchers appeared very credible because they have been researching her for many years. They interviewed the woman in Florida who was a teenager and heard Amelia's distress calls back in 1937 and had taken extensive notes, and explained how the signals could have bounced off the atmosphere and that Amelia was using a very powerful radio to transmit. They found the coordinates from where her plan most likely went down- also they spotted a plane tire in a photo in that location of a coral reef-and spotted some wire under the surface, but their G.P.S. got destroyed by getting too close to their boat's propeller, so they couldn't go back to find it. They also found a skeleton whose bones were the same height Amelia would have been and artifacts like the penknife aboard her plane, a woman's shoe, a sextant, glass bottles for hand lotion, and a woman's compact, and an American-made metal zipper from the 1930's.(Amelia was known to carry make-up with her in case of press conferences). That sealed the deal for me...
They concluded that because of several campfires with fish and other animal bones that Amelia and her navigator died of dehydration or other natural causes.

Steely Dan
03-21-2012, 04:13 PM
If so, I believe it's her!

It's funny. Soon after you asked if it was Gardner Island previously, HLN ran a story on this thing. According to their report it was Gardner Island.

LinasK
08-20-2012, 04:55 PM
By Thomas H. Maugh II Los Angeles Times August 20, 2012, 12:30 p.m.

Examination of high-definition underwater video obtained from the Pacific island of Nikumaroro has revealed what appear to be pieces of aircraft wreckage that might have come from Amelia Earhart's plane, according to researchers (http://tighar.org)from the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, commonly known as TIGHAR. Although the pieces may not be readily apparent to the naked eye in the images, forensic scientists say they could be a pulley, a fender and a wheel.
The location of the presumed wreckage coincides with what appears to be a plane's landing gear sticking up from the water in a controversial 1937 photograph taken by British Colonial Service officer Eric R. Bevington three months after Earhart was lost.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-amelia-earhart-wreckage-20120820,0,6013116.story?track=rss

Steely Dan
08-20-2012, 08:31 PM
By Thomas H. Maugh II Los Angeles Times August 20, 2012, 12:30 p.m.

Examination of high-definition underwater video obtained from the Pacific island of Nikumaroro has revealed what appear to be pieces of aircraft wreckage that might have come from Amelia Earhart's plane, according to researchers (http://tighar.org)from the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, commonly known as TIGHAR. Although the pieces may not be readily apparent to the naked eye in the images, forensic scientists say they could be a pulley, a fender and a wheel.
The location of the presumed wreckage coincides with what appears to be a plane's landing gear sticking up from the water in a controversial 1937 photograph taken by British Colonial Service officer Eric R. Bevington three months after Earhart was lost.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-amelia-earhart-wreckage-20120820,0,6013116.story?track=rss

The one piece definitely looks like a landing gear.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5032862e/turbine/la-sci-sn-amelia-earhart-wreckage-20120820-001/600

coco36
08-27-2012, 12:09 PM
Did anyone see the Discovery Channel show that was to have aired August 19?

From the TIGHAR site:

The TIGHAR team will now be reviewing and analyzing all of new material recovered from the site. Putting the pieces of this historic forensic mystery together is being documented for Discovery Channel’s upcoming television special. Only until we have had thorough analysis can we say what we have found and that answer will be revealed Sunday, August 19th only on Discovery.

I'm not sure it's aired yet as the preview does not indicate a date.
http://news.discovery.com/videos/history-amelia-earhart-search-continues.html

Steely Dan
08-27-2012, 03:24 PM
I haven't heard about it.

Veidt
03-10-2013, 06:51 PM
I'm surprised that I haven't found this thread before! Amelia Earhart was amazing.


...In last Friday’s public presentation at American Memorial Park arranged by the Northern Marianas Humanities Council, a member of the audience’s second-hand story about Amelia Earhart’s ring piqued the interest of the Earhart investigators.

...

On their website, earhartonsaipan.com, the Earhart researchers wrote, “We are going to their old home tomorrow to dowse and use ground penetrating radar for the ring — which was reportedly lost during a rainstorm somewhere under the old house.”

http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/53887-in-search-of-amelia-earhart-s-ring

Snipped by me.

There are also reports that people in Saipan had her jacket: http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/53952-wwii-veteran-earhart-jacket-on-saipan .

The same site reports that investigators are still waiting for permits.

It's such an intriguing case.

Steely Dan
03-10-2013, 07:15 PM
I'm surprised that I haven't found this thread before! Amelia Earhart was amazing.



http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/53887-in-search-of-amelia-earhart-s-ring

Snipped by me.

There are also reports that people in Saipan had her jacket: http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/53952-wwii-veteran-earhart-jacket-on-saipan .

The same site reports that investigators are still waiting for permits.

It's such an intriguing case.

Thanks, but I still go with the Nikumaroro theory.

Veidt
03-10-2013, 07:33 PM
Thanks, but I still go with the Nikumaroro theory.

Ok - I should have made it clearer that I'm not leaning towards any of the theories. I think both of the main theories sound possible, just which one is the right one (or if something else entirely happened) depends largely on things we don't know for sure. I just put those links here in case people were interested. Even if she was not in Saipan at all, I do think that investigating all the claims that she was could help rule out this theory and figure out who the reports are about then.

Steely Dan
03-10-2013, 07:39 PM
Ok - I should have made it clearer that I'm not leaning towards any of the theories. I think both of the main theories sound possible, just which one is the right one (or if something else entirely happened) depends largely on things we don't know for sure. I just put those links here in case people were interested. Even if she was not in Saipan at all, I do think that investigating all the claims that she was could help rule out this theory and figure out who the reports are about then.

I'm sorry if I came across as not being interested in the articles, I read them and liked them. I just think that all of that has been looked at and dismissed. I like any information on this topic though. I hope they can find something when they go back to Nikumaroro.

Keep adding stuff. It's an interesting topic. What's your theory?

Veidt
03-10-2013, 10:31 PM
I'm sorry if I came across as not being interested in the articles, I read them and liked them. I just think that all of that has been looked at and dismissed. I like any information on this topic though. I hope they can find something when they go back to Nikumaroro.

Keep adding stuff. It's an interesting topic. What's your theory?

Thanks, it's fine. :) I think that even if it wasn't her, there has GOT to be a reason why so many people would report seeing a short-haired American woman who disappeared, etc. It'd be interesting to know if there's a reason behind it and if so who it could have been.

I don't really have a theory, my mind isn't fully made up yet. I think that the Nikumaroro theory is probably the most likely one IMO. I don't see how they could have found a woman's shoe of the same brand she wore, if it's a coincidence then it's a huge one. I think it's likely that they died on the island or while trying to escape. I don't know if I think that there was a cover-up where the bodies are concerned (someone here said that a man's skeleton was found, so not hers, and I wonder if any connection to Noonan has been ruled out), they could have simply been washed away by the tide or if someone found them and didn't know who they were, they could have been buried.

I think that if they were ever somewhere else, it was via Nikumaroro (e.g. being found by a passing ship).

:moo: of course. As I said, I'm not entirely sure of anything.

Steely Dan
05-31-2013, 07:05 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/30/world/earhart-plane-search/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews

(CNN) -- A grainy sonar image taken hundreds of feet below the ocean's surface may help unravel a mystery that has baffled historians for decades.

What happened to aviator Amelia Earhart, and where's her plane?...

http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/66_NikuVIIUpdate/1_anomaly.jpg
http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/66_NikuVIIUpdate/1_anomaly.jpg

Steely Dan
05-31-2013, 07:09 AM
Here's the link to the expedition's website; http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/66_NikuVIIUpdate/66_NikuVIIUpdate.html

Steely Dan
05-31-2013, 07:22 AM
Well the second link says it's about 200 feet below the water and according to this; http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_deep_can_man_dive_in_the_ocean a man can dive 500 feet. So it seems that a diver could get a very good look at this thing.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
08-17-2014, 02:00 AM
Federal judge rejects lawsuit claiming searchers secretly found Amelia Earhart's missing plane

A federal judge on Friday dismissed a Wyoming man's claims that an aircraft recovery group secretly found wreckage of aviation pioneer Amelia Earhart's missing airplane in the South Pacific but kept it quiet so it could continue raising funds for the search.

[snip]

Expert witnesses for Mellon filed statements in court earlier this year saying they saw similarities between parts of Earhart's plane and objects shown on video of the ocean floor from the aircraft recovery group's 2010 search.

However, in his ruling Friday, Skavdahl said underwater video showing objects that may appear similar to airplane parts wasn't good enough to keep Mellon's lawsuit alive.

http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2014/07/25/judge-dismisses-lawsuit-over-amelia-earhart-search

dotr
10-30-2014, 12:19 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/10/29/amelia-earhart-plane-fragment-identified/

Amelia Earhart plane fragment identified

"New research strongly suggests that a piece of aluminum aircraft debris recovered in 1991 from Nikumaroro, an uninhabited atoll in the southwestern Pacific republic of Kiribati, does belong to Earhart’s twin-engined Lockheed Electra.

The search for Amelia Earhart is about to continue in the pristine waters of a tiny uninhabited island, Nikumaroro, between Hawaii and Australia".

dotr
10-30-2014, 12:26 AM
Lots of interesting pics and detail,

"Earhart Project Research Bulletin
October 28, 2014

The Window, the Patch, & the Artifact"

http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/73_StepbyStep/73_Step_by_Step.html