Cold Cases That Haunt Me

[joellegirl]

Hi, instead of starting a bunch of new threads I thought I'd make a list of several cold cases that haunt me. I've included links-which I hope work. I also hope when I submit this it looks neat and not all jumbled. Here goes:

Eveyln Hartley-teenager vansihed while babysitting in 1953. I've heard this story since I was a child, as my father was growing up in La Crosse, WI when this happened.

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2003/10/24/news.03h

Indiana Dunes Mystery-Three young women vanish in 1966.

http://www.geocities.com/athens/parthenon/6865/mystery.html


Trenny Lynn Gibson-vanished while on a field trip in the Great Smoky Mountains.

http://doenetwork.bravepages.com/425dftn.html

Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975

http//www.nealjconway.com/essays/whyweliketobe/lyonsisters.html

Janice Pockett-missing since 1973

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/pockett.html

Madeline Babcock-she wasn't a child-she was 35 when she vanished. Her sister is stil searching for her.

http://members.fortunecity.com/maggyw/

Suzanne Lyall-college student missing since 1998.

http://www.global2000.net/suzy/


There are more but this will do for now. I hope these links come out-please forgive me if they don't!

What are your thoughts on these cases, and what cases haunt you?

[joellegirl]

I'l try posting the links that didn't work:

Evelyn Hartley--

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2003/10/24/news/03h

Sheila and Katherine Lyon--

http://www.nealjconway.com/essays/whyweliketobe/lyonsisters.html

I apologize if these do not work.

[joellegirl]

Ok, one last try for Evelyn Hartley--

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2003/10/24/news/03hartley.bd

[MysteryMomma]

I can't find a link....it was a Dublin, CA girl, Eileen Mishaloff, I think I spelled her name wrong. She was an ice skater, she was walking I think home to or from the rink and she was never scene again. I was working in Dublin when this happened I can't even remember the year. I looked on www.missingkids.com and I couldn't find her missing poster. I think she was later thought to be a runaway and no one ever mentioned her again. She didn't take any of her stuff with her and she gave me the feeling that she wasn't a runaway................Does anyone else remember her? I still think about her.

[MysteryMomma]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=719556&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

I hope that link works....It was bugging me. Ilene's poster....from 1989

[MysteryMomma]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=767759&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Amber Garcia also went missing in the late 80's. I think these cases have stuck with me cuz they all happened relatively close together and they were never solved. There was a boy who was kidnapped during this time also, I think they found his body.....I may be wrong....I remember his father working to change the law's regarding child killers and things like that.

[MysteryMomma]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=600782&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Kevin Collins....was the boy I was thinking of. The poster says he is still missing. I thought they found him. Gosh he would be 30 yrs old now. This is another case from Northern CA.

[blueclouds]

Here's some further links to the 3 missing Indiana women

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/bruhl.html
http://doenetwork.bravepages.com/384dfin.html



"MERRIVILE, INDIANA: On July 2nd, 1966. Patty Blough (l9), Renee Bruhl (l9). and Ann Miller (21)- all from Illinois vanished from The Indiana Dunes State Park 36 years ago. With more than a l,000 pages of notes since their disappearance, police are not one step closer to the answer that 3 decades ago. Recently the case has been reviewed by a COLD CASE SQUAD, and there just isn't anything new or anywhere to start. The three very attractive and outgoing women were on a weekend get-a-away at the popular northern Indiana resort area, bikini clad & soaked in baby oil- what started out as a day in the sun, somehow became a plot-line out of a horror movie, but almost like the infamous Phantom killer in texarkana, texas in the early 40's, the killer eluded the police altogether, and still has investigative experts scratching their collective heads. It's not the Zodiac, or D.B. COOPER, even kansas city's infamous BTK (bind, torture, kill) strangler of the 1970's- But here's what can be said about this case after 36 years: S Y P N O S I S/ The three women vanished off the face of the earth, leaving behind their clothes, a car, a blanket, purses, and $60.00 cash. This was July 2, 1966/ A tanned man, with wavy hair was driving the boat that some witnesses (which have since deceased) say the women boarded. It has been rumored the man was, an abortion doctor, or friend. In the mid-1990's, investigators checked a possible lead involving a federal probe of the horse industry, which the 1977 murder of Brach candy's heiress Helen Vorhees Brach was solved eight years ago. The young women were also linked to the George Jaynes Stables, but the investigators did not provide new leads into their disappearances. Since then, there's been no leads and the story has faded from the public view. A one time photographer, for the Post-tribune, Dick Wylie- grew up in the area and was in the northwest Indiana bureau of the Sun-Times- working as both reporter and photographer when the three women disappeared. The mystery serves as a chapter in his yet unpublished book "Life & Death Through the Lens." He believes the women were coerced into white slavery or kidnapping, but over the years, he has changed his opinion to an abortion that went wrong, and the illegal surgery had to be covered-up by murdering the other two witnesses. Hope flared in 1975, when police recieved a call and tip that the three bodies were buried in the dunes. The bones turned out to be remains of Indians...................." Partial story from Myusm.com

[blueclouds]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=767759&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Amber Garcia also went missing in the late 80's. I think these cases have stuck with me cuz they all happened relatively close together and they were never solved. There was a boy who was kidnapped during this time also, I think they found his body.....I may be wrong....I remember his father working to change the law's regarding child killers and things like that.


Sad thing about Amber is that her dad (police officer) was killed sometime prior to her disappearance.

[joellegirl]

Here is another link about the Evelyn Hartley case that includes her picture. The text isn't easy to read as it is a picture of a old newspaper article. I can't seem to find a link that details her disappearance but will keep looking. There is a very detailed description in the book "Getting Away With Murder" by Ed Baumann and John O'Brien. I just wanted to mention that there were definite signs of four play as her glasses were on the livingroom floor, one of her shoes was in the basement, and the basement window was open, with blood splashed about, and a blood trail to the street. She was abducted within a half hour of starting her babysitting job, and the 18 month old girl she was watching was luckily unharmed.

Here is the link with her picture--

http://lplcat.lacrosse.lib.wi.us/digitalproject/images/hartley/00060006.jpg

[joellegirl]

Oh my, I had a major typo in my last thread. I meant "foul" play, not four play. I am so sorry..

[Cypros]

The case that always pops into my mind when I hear about a child disappearing while camping or hiking is the case of little Laura Bradbury (3 years old) who disappeared fom her family's campsite in Joshua Tree National Park (near Palm Springs, CA) in 1984. There was a big search and I remember daily updates in the news for quite some time. I have a vague memory that then child actor, Rick Schroeder, made some public pleas for her safe return. She was a distant relative of his.

I did a web search to try to find information about this case and only found some references which say that she was never found and is believed to have been abducted. I am surprised that her family doesn't have a website for her and that she is not on the official missing children sites (as far as I could find).

Anybody remember this case?

[kylie]

The case that always pops into my mind when I hear about a child disappearing while camping or hiking is the case of little Laura Bradbury (3 years old) who disappeared fom her family's campsite in Joshua Tree National Park (near Pal Springs, CA) in 1984. There was a big search and I remember daily updates in the news for quite some time. I have a vague memory that then child actor, Rick Schroeder, made some public please for her safe return. She was a distant relative of his.

I did a web search to try to find information about this case and only found some references which say that she was never found and is believed to have been abducted. I am surprised that her faily doesn't have a website for her and that she is not on the official missing children sites (as far as I could find).

Anybody remember this case?

Cypros, I remember. That was so sad. Don't you have to pay to get into Joshua Tree. I'm surprised they couldn't track the people at the park that day.
That is so tragic. I'm really glad I don't have kids, just for this reason.

[Cypros]

Cypros, I remember. That was so sad. Don't you have to pay to get into Joshua Tree. I'm surprised they couldn't track the people at the park that day.

You do have to pay, but it is not like the park is fenced or walled in. Anybody could hike in from the surrounding desert, I suppose. I'm sure they checked out all of the official visitors at that time.
I couldn't find anything that explained why they determined this was an abduction as opposed to a case of the child wandering off an getting lost or being dragged off by a wild animal. Was there evidence for an abduction?
All of these cases are terribly sad. I can't imagine a loved one, especially a child, just disappearing.

[MysteryMomma]

What struck me about all these old cases is when you look at missingkids.com there are hundreds of kids from my state that I have never heard of. I'm a news junkie CNN, Fox, local news is always on in my house even when I worked on listened to news radio. Why do only a few get air time? This is what bugs me about Audrey, the college student. She really got soooo much air time and little kids that are helpless hardly get any.

I know some are runaways, some are parental abductions, but a lot of these kids are just gone....Where are the children? I know life isn't fair.

[little1]

Isn't it sad how many people go missing and are never eard from again? No trace is ever found? That must be hell for their families......

I think the NCMEC estimates something like 500,000 children go missing a year......

[joellegirl]

It bothers me too how some people just simply vanish and are never found. One of the links I posted was about Trenny Gibson, who vanished on a school field trip in 1976. She was walking ahead of her classmates on the trail, was out of sight for an instant, and vanished. She was one of three people who simply vanished into thin air at the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. In the late 1960's little boy was with his family, playing hide and go seek with some other children, went behind a bush and was gone. The third case was a middle aged woman who was walking ahead of her two friends on a trial, went over a hill and vanished.

I think how many of these children vansihed doing things I did all the time as a child-riding my bike around the block, walking home from the store, playing in my own yard. I am so paranoid with my children, knowing how quick something can happen.

My heart breaks for all these families. I often wonder things like, how long did they keep their children's rooms as they were, did they keep all their toys, clothes etc. I would guess some never change a thing and some come to a point where they feel the need for closure even though they still don't know what really happened. It just makes me so sad. I came across a story about the missing Lyon sisters from Maryland (29 years now), where their parents, two brothers (and their families) a few years ago had a tombstone put in their local cemetery with the girls birthdates and missing dates. They visit it weekly.It is just so sad that they, like so many other parents of missing children, will probably never know what happened to their daughters.

I, too wish these cold cases would get some media again. Of the missing persons I mentioned in my first post, I have never seen their story on any show like Unsolved Mysteries, Cold Case Files and the like. It is wierd to think many of these "children" I mentioned wpould be in their forties and older now, but they are forever frozen in time at the age they vansihed.

Thanks to all of you who have posted and shared more links. Hopefully we will see the cases that haunt us solved one day.

Anyone else have more cases to share?

[GingerFitz]

Amanda Campbell (http://www.vca.org/missing/child_posters/a_e/campbelln.htm)

Michaela Garecht (http://www.vca.org/missing/child_posters/f_h/garecht.htm)

Here's the posters of two girls who disappeared around the same time as Ilene Misheloll. I used to live in the same small town that Amanda was abducted from

~Ginger

[messiecake]

A few years ago there was a little girl missing in the Mid-West(she was 3-5 years old ,blonde hair,blue eyes).
Her last name was Beers(?) and soon after some (horryifying)child pornography photos had surfaced of a little girl who looked EXACTLY like her.................DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER INFO ON THIS CASE???

It's another one of those "haunting" cases I learned about on America's Most Wanted.

[osme]

The only crime victim I have heard of named Beers was Katie Beers. She was held in
an underground bunker by someone named Esposito in Bay Shore, Long Island for 17 days before she was freed. She turned 10 on the second day of her captivity.

Diane

[MysteryMomma]

Amanda Campbell (http://www.vca.org/missing/child_posters/a_e/campbelln.htm)

Michaela Garecht (http://www.vca.org/missing/child_posters/f_h/garecht.htm)

Here's the posters of two girls who disappeared around the same time as Ilene Misheloll. I used to live in the same small town that Amanda was abducted from

~Ginger

Ginger I remember both of these cases. There were so many missing kids in No. CA during the late eighties that were never found. I have often wondered if the girls were all taken by the same person.

[October]

The little girl's name was Brittney Beers. Here's a link to her case:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/bbeers.html

[smile22]

some of these cases hount me as well the one on janice hits home to me im 22 so when she was born my parents were in school when she disapeard my parents just started college, the thing that links us is we are both from the state of connecticut i did some research on her and dead ends i cant even look at her pic for some reason i get goose bumps, she was linked to another case of a mising lowel mass boy andrew or andy puglise i think thats how u spell his last name he went mising a few years later shes from tolland its about an hr from where i live 20 miles from where andy lived in mass he went missing at the local pool he never came home he was epileptic, the suspected child molester charles peierce i think that was his first name he confessed while in jail for the murder of another girl that he killed a young girl and boy in that area in the late 50s early 60s thing is they went missing in the 70's, but he was out of it from tuberculosis and cancer but he brought them to a sight where he burried them but no bodies or anything was found to suspect someone was burried their, all the info on andy and some on janice can be found at haveyouseenandy.com his childhood friend melanie created the site, she was the last person to see him at the pool she left early and he wasnt ready to leave she said she felt something strange inside her so she asked to be walked home so his older or her brother walked her home i also was just reading about the girls from md who went missing from the mall how sad

[Pepper]

Mason City Iowa TV anchorwoman Jodi Huisentruit disappeared in 1995. Her remains have never been found. What happened to her?

http://showcase.netins.net/web/keithh/missing.htm

http://showcase.netins.net/web/keithh/missing2.htm

[smile22]

what do u think im doing some cold cases janice pockett and connie smith connie smith went missing also in ct in a camp called camp slone it was a ymca camp for a few weeks in the summer the camp is still running she went missing at the age of 10 in 1952 i belive, do you think its wrong to send out letters and copy of the flyer of when these people went missing to residents of the town someone might remeber something that could have been so trivial and stupid but can link another peice of the puzzle, i was thinking if i could get enugh poeple to help me we could eventualy do more cold cases, between 1950-the80s when computers werent around and stuff 80s we had more advances but in the 50s and 60s it was hard what do u think?

[Dugie]

This is my first post.

I found a possible answer to the Indiana State Dunes mystery. The below link is to a web site that outlines the arrest of two men, Kenneth Hansen and Silas Jayne, in connection with crimes involving horses/owners.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/761/IL/US/1/print

Apparently, they came into contact with Blough and Miller at the stable where the two young women kept their horses. This site mentions the Blough, Bruhl, and Miller specifically as being likely vicitims of the men.

Lovin' this website!

[SoonerMom]

Here is the one case that I will never forget as it happened the week after I was in Tahoe.

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/dugard.html

[gardenmom]

This is my first post.

I found a possible answer to the Indiana State Dunes mystery. The below link is to a web site that outlines the arrest of two men, Kenneth Hansen and Silas Jayne, in connection with crimes involving horses/owners.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/761/IL/US/1/print

Apparently, they came into contact with Blough and Miller at the stable where the two young women kept their horses. This site mentions the Blough, Bruhl, and Miller specifically as being likely vicitims of the men.

Lovin' this website!

Interesting, these were some bad people. Too bad they couldn't tie them for sure to the murders of the three girls. I also wonder why they didn't dig up Jaynes backyard for the girls since he claimed three bodies were buried there.

[messiecake]

The little girl's name was Brittney Beers. Here's a link to her case:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/bbeers.html


OMG! Her story is worse than I imagined! BEFORE being abducted she had been molested/abused by her Father,her Uncle AND her Mother's boyfriend????? : (


............I can't help but wonder if they were looked at? After all they were all under investigation when she went missing??? OR were they all aware of what they were each doing to her ? Were they some sort of pedo "group"??
Did they set up her abduction??? After all how do we know its NOT her in the found pictures?


SOOOOOOOOOOOO much WRONG in the case IMO not only just the abduction!

[kimmpp]

Hello I am a relative of Janice Pockett would be very interested in hearing what you think,,,,kimmpp@hotmail.com

[CaliKid]

The case that always pops into my mind when I hear about a child disappearing while camping or hiking is the case of little Laura Bradbury (3 years old) who disappeared fom her family's campsite in Joshua Tree National Park (near Palm Springs, CA) in 1984. Anybody remember this case?

If memory serves me right, Laura's remains were found 2-3 years after she disappeared either in the park itself or not far from it. I don't remember if a cause of death was listed or someone was involved in her disappearance.

[Azlaw]

This is my first post.

I found a possible answer to the Indiana State Dunes mystery. The below link is to a web site that outlines the arrest of two men, Kenneth Hansen and Silas Jayne, in connection with crimes involving horses/owners.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/761/IL/US/1/print

Apparently, they came into contact with Blough and Miller at the stable where the two young women kept their horses. This site mentions the Blough, Bruhl, and Miller specifically as being likely vicitims of the men.

Lovin' this website!

You're right. Ken and Si were responsible for the deaths of these girls. They rode at Si's brother's barn and witnessed Ken's brother planting a bomb on Si's brother's car. (Si eventually succeeded in killing his brother years later). An assistant trainer, a young woman named Cherie, was asked to bring the car around to the front. The car exploded and she was killed. The three girls were witnesses, so Si had Ken kill them. Ken used his boat (which matched the description given by eyewitnesses) and then burned it. (he also collected insurance for the 'accident' to his boat).

The real mystery is where did Si's nephew, Frank Jayne Jr., put the body of Brach candy heiress Helen Brach. There have been books and movies about Helen Brach, but no one has ever found her body. Jayne's accomplice, Richard Bailey is in prison for life for his involvement in her murder.

[mic730]

Hi, instead of starting a bunch of new threads I thought I'd make a list of several cold cases that haunt me. I've included links-which I hope work. I also hope when I submit this it looks neat and not all jumbled. Here goes:

Eveyln Hartley-teenager vansihed while babysitting in 1953. I've heard this story since I was a child, as my father was growing up in La Crosse, WI when this happened.

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2003/10/24/news.03h

Indiana Dunes Mystery-Three young women vanish in 1966.

http://www.geocities.com/athens/parthenon/6865/mystery.html


Trenny Lynn Gibson-vanished while on a field trip in the Great Smoky Mountains.

http://doenetwork.bravepages.com/425dftn.html

Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975

http//www.nealjconway.com/essays/whyweliketobe/lyonsisters.html

Janice Pockett-missing since 1973

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/pockett.html

Madeline Babcock-she wasn't a child-she was 35 when she vanished. Her sister is stil searching for her.

http://members.fortunecity.com/maggyw/

Suzanne Lyall-college student missing since 1998.

http://www.global2000.net/suzy/


There are more but this will do for now. I hope these links come out-please forgive me if they don't!

What are your thoughts on these cases, and what cases haunt you?
Those are haunting cases - thanks for posting.

I live close to the area where Jennifer Short and her family were murdred.
Does not seem they are any closer to an arrest than the first day it happened.
Wonder if the parents were the target or she was.
Here is a link:
http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story139268.html

Michelle

[mic730]

Hello I am a relative of Janice Pockett would be very interested in hearing what you think,,,,kimmpp@hotmail.com
First - sorry for your loss. You and your family have suffered a tragedy.
When reading the link it was sad to read that there were 2 pedophiles as suspects - children are prey and this reminds me of that lesson.

What jumped out to me was that she was classified a runaway at 8 years old.
Was there any reason for that classification or was it just the times before the awareness of child vicitms? Did that impeded a search at the time?

I hope that you get some answers someday soon.
Michelle

[kimmpp]

Funny thing about it was that I remember that she always had tictacs with her,,,my sister and Janice werre very close,,,would love to find closure need to know more but do not know where to look or what to do,,,very new at this if anyone can help please let me know

[joellegirl]

Funny thing about it was that I remember that she always had tictacs with her,,,my sister and Janice werre very close,,,would love to find closure need to know more but do not know where to look or what to do,,,very new at this if anyone can help please let me know
I really feel for you and your family, having had such a tragedy happen and having no closure. I guess the main thing is to keep Janice's story in the media. She is on several missing persons websites which is good. Perhaps create a personal website about her and her abduction? Though I realize that may be emotionally hard to do. Maybe have someone sketch a picture of what she may look like now.

Janice's case haunts many of us here and we really want to see it solved, and I think many of us would like to hear more tibits about Janice, like the tic tac story. It is nice to hear little things about her, to know more what she was like. Please share more with us if you are able to and want to. Bless you and your family and lets hope modern science and interest in her case can soon solve it.

[amandab]

OMG! Her story is worse than I imagined! BEFORE being abducted she had been molested/abused by her Father,her Uncle AND her Mother's boyfriend????? : (


............I can't help but wonder if they were looked at? After all they were all under investigation when she went missing??? OR were they all aware of what they were each doing to her ? Were they some sort of pedo "group"??
Did they set up her abduction??? After all how do we know its NOT her in the found pictures?


SOOOOOOOOOOOO much WRONG in the case IMO not only just the abduction!

OMG, my daughter looks SO MUCH like Brittney, it gives me chills.......

[messiecake]

OMG, my daughter looks SO MUCH like Brittney, it gives me chills.......


My daughter too............its really haunting isnt it???

[amandab]

My daughter too............its really haunting isnt it???

It seems like the only thing that's different is the cold, sad look that Brittney has in her eyes.....that poor little girl..... :-(

[kylie]

As far as the Evelyn Hartley case, did they save the blood-stained jacket and shoes? Can they do some DNA testing on them? It would be interesting to know.

[smile22]

i have a friend who has the gift of sight well he did at one point and i remember one day over breakfast telling him about the doenetwork, and websleuths, and finding info on this missing girl i gave him little details i was like she was 8 went bike riding never found, he goes she has blond hair right gap 2 front teeth, she had on shorts and a shirt, i was like omg,hes like whats her name i go janice pockett, he goes shes close by im like what do u mean? he says she was from around here i go yeah tolland 45 minns away he goes omg. so when i get home i send him a link to her picture and hes on the phone with me going omg omg that was her it was freeky, well im writing back and forth with someone who does writing for cold cases in ct and have recived intresting information that was in the hartford courrant about other girls missing after she went missing, and were trying to find a link between janice and the other missing girls, also peirce and bar-jones the people listed that may be involved dont really look like they are. at one point i thought peirce was involved cuz of his confession but i think he was just saying it, and the other girls who went missing after her a few years later the towns were relitvely close, and peirce was in mass at the time and i think already in prison for some murder he commited, also it was brought to my attention the guy who killed molly bish would have been around the time janice went missing so im trying to find out if he was in ct at the time, talked to my friend who said he thinks its a guy whos in dc commited alot of child crimes but is not doing it anymore meaning got help, from someone to stop the killings, does anyone know of anyone in the dc area that commited lots of crimes but was suspected but then never charged? or vis versa

dont think im crazy about the visons and stuff if anyone isnt crazy let me know

[kitty]

One of the cases that has stuck with me for a long time, even though it happened before I was born, is that of Marjorie "Christy" Luna. It may have something to do with the fact that she lived not even ten minutes from me. I can't find anything new on her case; I can't even find another picture of her. :(

Here is a link to her case:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/luna.html

They interviewed her mom on the news last year or so, and it's been 20 years since her daughter disappeared. I can't imagine what that must be like for her. It's something you never forget.


Another case that has stuck with me is Andrea Parsons. I remember when this happened. It was all over the news. I remember the pictures and the descriptions of her, I remember the searches, I remember the suspects.

Here is a link to her case:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/aparsons.html

[smile22]

was janice cassified as a runaway or a nonfamily abduction. also today on tv i was watching about the adam walsh story john walshes late son who was kidnaped and killed how sad and how back then they didnt do much for children who were missing, scarry, we need to keep these children in our memorie, i know im gona be lighting a candle for every anniversery of some of the missing janice, andy puglies, the lyons sisters, rachel cooke, evelyn hartly, connie smith, jacob wetterling, jason jarkowski, if u are intrested in starting a prayer circle for them let me know

[smile22]

you know how through the jason jarkowski foundation thing that they have the buttons for the missing such as murra murray rachael cooke and others, well what about pins for older cases. i know like a 20 year old case might not be important to most people. but, what if your taken a walk and u have the pin on u and someone goes omg i remeber that case i lived in the town such and such and starts talking to u about stuff, and then they start to remeber and some new leads pop up, if anyone thinks its a good idea let me know i thinking pins on evelen hartley, the lyon sisters, janice pockett, andy puglies. indiana dunes girls and any other cold cold cases. or they could even be a reminder to poeple that these are the missing still who have yet to be found, the reason i got involved in missing persons and cold cases were the young children and adults missing for years with no clues, as to where they are

[SoccerMom]

This is only my second post on this forum, so I'm still a "newbie." This case has always stayed in the back of my mind, partly because my Mom was in the area at the time of Christy's discovery, and partly because of another death in our area that occured around the same time. (solved but the killer is still fighting to get free) On the day that Christy's body was found, the police were diverting traffic so that they could bring the body out and not be interrupted. My Mom ended up having to wait (in her car) on the side of the road facing Christy's house. At that time, a man in a dark sedan was parked next to her. Mom considers herself to be a little psychic, and she said she got an overwhelming aura of anger from this man as he stared at Christy's house. In her head she kept hearing "good, the bitch is dead" over and over again. Then the man pulled out of his spot and went in the opposite direction. She swears it was the killer, and still gets freaked out about it. Everything I've ever heard about Christy is that she was sweet and kind, never a "bitch." I got this story from another site, so I hope it works.




A mother's dying wish
By Barbara Hough Roda
Dec 14, 2002, 18:53 EST
Lancaster Sunday News


Knowing she might not live to see the 10th anniversary of her daughter's unsolved killing, Gerry Mirack asked for an interview to tell her story of the pain of losing her "Chrissy' and her fear that justice will never be done.

Gerry Mirack was sick and weary when she got word to the Sunday News this summer that she wanted to talk.
Battling cancer, grief and the clock, she feared that she would die before the 10th anniversary of her daughter's unsolved murder. Mrs. Mirack wanted to leave this life knowing that she would have a say in a December article about her middle child, about the devastating loss to her family, about frustration with a murder investigation that has failed to produce a killer.

She did not want Christy Mirack, the daughter taken from her family four days before Christmas, to be forgotten.

"It's too late now ... I feel it's too late for me because of how sick I am," Mrs. Mirack said in a shaky and tired voice.

But on that day in September, as she glanced at her two surviving children during an interview at daughter Alicia's Philadelphia-area home, she added, "My kids are still here ... It's such a long time, 10 years."

Less than two months later, on Nov. 4, Mrs. Mirack, 59, died at her Shamokin home. Death came one day after Christy would have celebrated her 35th birthday.

Mrs. Mirack was a Catholic, a member of Our Lady of Hope Church in Coal Township, Northumberland County. There was daunting comfort in the belief that Christy, and truth about the murder, awaited her in death.

The terrible call

It was Mrs. Mirack who got the call from Christy's principal that her daughter hadn't arrived at Rohrerstown Elementary School the morning of Monday, Dec. 21, 1992. Did Christy visit Shamokin that weekend, the principal asked?

She had not, and a worried Mrs. Mirack started calling Christy's East Lampeter Township townhouse. Her daughter never answered but, after three hours, someone with the police did _ the family does not know to this day who that was _ and told Mrs. Mirack she needed to come to Lancaster.

The man would say no more. Mrs. Mirack persisted, as concern gave way to a mother's worst fears. There was an "accident," she was told. Christy was dead.

The sixth-grade teacher's strangled, beaten and sexually assaulted body was found by the Rohrerstown principal, who had driven to her Greenfield Estates home to check on her. It was one year and one day after Laurie Show was murdered in the same township.

According to a 1995 Lancaster New Era story citing police, neighbors saw a car pull into a lot directly across from Christy's home shortly after her roommate left for work at 7 a.m. A man jumped out of the car and headed toward her door. Police theorized at the time that Christy either knew the man, or opened the door expecting to see someone else, when he forced his way inside. No one saw the man leave.

Witnesses described the vehicle as a 1984 to 1991 Dodge Daytona or Turismo hatchback, the article noted. It was faded silver, dull gray or faded white in color. The vehicle's distinguishing features included roll-up head lamps and black louvers, or sunshades, on the back window. Police described the man as white, in his 20s, tall with an athletic build and sandy blond or light brown hair, possibly in a crew cut.

It appeared that Christy had put up a struggle. A 1993 Sunday News story citing unnamed sources close to the investigation noted that Christmas packages, bags and cushions had been thrown about; there was a slash in a sofa slipcover, though no furniture was overturned. There was a shoe scuff mark inside, on the top of the front door; scrapes on the entryway floor suggested that Christy might have been dragged, sources said. Her elbows and knees were badly bruised.

Previously published reports noted that a neighbor heard a single scream at 7:15 a.m. The killer left the townhouse with the door ajar, which allowed the principal to enter when he arrived looking for Christy shortly after 9 a.m.

Knew her killer

East Lampeter Township Police Lt. Renee Schuler, who heads the murder investigation, said the car and other information linked early on to the case are not being discounted.

But she and Lancaster County Detective Joseph Geesey provided little in the way of new information at an interview held at the District Attorney's Office last week. Although police initially proceeded under the assumption that Christy knew her killer, they won't rule out a random killing now.

But the family is convinced that Christy either knew the murderer, or opened the door to someone she was expecting that morning. There were no signs of forced entry to the townhouse, according to news reports.

Gathering to discuss Christy and the case in September was extraordinarily difficult for a family that has mourned with no closure for a decade. They've watched Christy's life be subjected to the microscope while the killer continues to elude police. Their heartwrenching loss was evidenced on the fatigued face of an ailing Mrs. Mirack, who sat close to her son, Vince T., on a sofa and looked to him, her daughter and husband, Vincent J., for support as she spoke.

The Miracks said Christy was adamant about safety, though they can't explain why she was so careful. Her father offered typical parental advice: keep the keys ready, take different routes home, don't park in the same place.

Recalling his years as a Lancaster nursing student, her brother, now 31, said he always rang the doorbell when he stopped by Christy's home and had to tell her several times who it was before she would let him in.

But last week Schuler and Geesey would only say that the killer is male. They wouldn't say whether there might have been more than one assailant. Dozens of men have been interviewed by authorities, though officials will not say specifically how many. Investigators said they are looking at specific individuals.

They would not comment on how many people have been exonerated by DNA or other evidence.

But three men who were considered suspects by police were absolved because DNA taken from semen did not match DNA found at the scene, county foresnic pathologist Dr. Wayne K. Ross said in a 1993 interview with the Lancaster New Era.

[SoccerMom]

Sorry, had to make it into two postings due to length.


FBI involved again

The Mirack case received federal attention while Schuler participated in an intensive 11-week training course at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Va., in 1995. Upon her return, the killer's profile had not changed: one man, possibly 25 to 35 years old, who knew that about 7 a.m. Monday, Dec. 21, Christy would be alone getting ready for school in her townhouse.

The motive is still unclear. Geesey would not comment on the crime scene last week. Police remain quiet as to what weapons were used in the crime, and will not comment on information from sources early on that one instrument was a kitchen cutting board.

"She was beaten," Geesey said. "She was beaten in anger, but ... I don't think we should get into specifics."

The tips that inundated police in the weeks after the homicide slowed with the passage of time. These days, it can be a few months before there's a lead on the case. The most recent tip came in Dec. 2; investigators refused comment on the nature of that information.

Schuler said East Lampeter Township detective Joseph Edgell was assigned to assist on the case about 10 months ago. Geesey continues to work with the department, which is aided by local municipalities as well as state and federal law enforcement when the need arises.

The FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit working out of Quantico is assisting on the case and working on a profile of the killer.

It's not the first time for FBI assistance. In addition to Schuler's training, East Lampeter Township investigators sought federal input in 1993.

Later that year, in a Sunday News story, the murderer was described as someone who wouldn't stand out in a crowd. He was an observer, not the center of attention or the life of the party. He probably hadn't killed before but might have committed date rape, according to information based in part on an FBI profile.

He may have gone into a rage when Christy either rejected him or wouldn't stop resisting.

Who and why

For most of the past decade, it was Mrs. Mirack _ a native of Sunbury who moved to Shamokin as a child _ who kept in touch with police for updates on the investigation.

"She always felt like she was on the outside looking in," her son said.

Schuler wasn't sure when last she spoke with the Miracks; Christy's brother, who also lives in suburban Philadelphia, said his mother hadn't talked with Lancaster County officials in at least a year.

That was about the time Mrs. Mirack faced a third bout with cancer, breast cancer that eventually metastasized to her brain. Treatments to fight the disease wore her out, yet she clung to a dimming hope that Christy's killer would be caught.

Mrs. Mirack worked in several Shamokin-area garment factories and was last employed in Northumberland County's maintenance department. She was proud of college-educated Christy, whom the family called "Chrissy." Mother and daughter's relationship was a close one. Family said they were like sisters.

Faced with her own mortality, Mrs. Mirack _ a wife for 38 years, a mother for almost as many, and a grandmother _ straddled a fence between her love for them and the daughter and sister they'd mourned as a family for a decade. Not knowing the killer's identity had been torment upon heartbreak.

"Who? Who and why?" Mrs. Mirack asked through tears, noting that it had been years before she could really even talk about the murder. "Was she that terrible a person that they had to kill her?"

Christy, who had also been a part-time waitress at Conestoga Country Club and an assistant to a pharmacist at the Neffsville Pharmacy, knew hard work.

And she was determined to be a good teacher.

At 25, she was on her way. Her youth, enthusiasm and rapport with the children made her popular with students, parents and colleagues.

The night before the murder she finished wrapping the last of her Christmas presents for her class. Each child was to get a paperback book, "Miracles on Maple Hill," by children's author Virginia Sorensen. A candy cane topped each gift, and inside, she wrote: "Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a great 1993! Love, Miss Mirack."

Her mother bristled at critics who tarred her daughter with a brush long on judgment and short on compassion because she liked to have fun with her girlfriends at local night spots.

"She was a young kid in college," Mrs. Mirack said of Christy's years at Millersville University. "What do you expect?"

The family learned of Christy's four-year relationship with an older married man after the murder. It was but one thread in a rich, 25-year-old life filled with potential and built around teaching, friendship and family.

As Mrs. Mirack put it, "She was just an ordinary girl."

Family's doubts

Blame for the murder is the killer's alone. But finding the murderer has been no small task.

At an emotional September interview with the Miracks, the pain of Christy's death was fresh. Her family second-guessed themselves, worrying aloud that they should have pushed law enforcement harder. They wondered whether the case would have been solved long ago if they lived in Lancaster County.

"We did whatever they asked us to do," said Christy's brother, a sentiment that was affirmed by Geesey and Schuler. "We assumed they told us everything we needed to know."

"We didn't talk," Christy's father, 64, said. "We didn't say nothing to nobody."

The last thing they wanted to do was jeopardize the case.

Now, her father sees things differently. "Nice people finish last."

Alicia, 37, wonders whether the case was too much for local law enforcement. "I didn't get a feeling they were used to dealing with these things," she said.

Then the family learned of allegations of prosecutorial misconduct in the investigation and prosecution of Lisa Michelle Lambert, one of Laurie Show's convicted killers. Although a Lancaster County judge found no evidence to support those charges in a post-conviction hearing reaffirming Lambert's guilty verdict, it raised questions in the minds of the Mirack family.

"They had so many changes of hands down there," Christy's brother added. "Every time you talked to them, somebody different was handling the case."

Schuler, who has been involved in the investigation from the beginning, said she understands the frustrations and doubts of the Mirack family. But she assures them, and the public, that investigators have been diligent in gathering evidence and working to solve this crime.

"This case has been on every police officer's mind in this county ..." said Geesey, suggesting that it is one that police _ Schuler, in particular, because of her contact with Mrs. Mirack _ have taken personally.

Although investigators have changed _ people get older, move to new positions and retire, noted Schuler _ "that does not affect the continuity," Geesey said.

The Mirack case is one of the unsolved crimes the county is continuing to look into. Others include the 1975 stabbing of Lindy Biechler and the 1984 disappearance of Mary Ann Bagenstose.

Resolve lives on

Schuler said the Mirack case will remain open until it is solved. Investigators believe it can be solved.

But, Schuler added, "We need (the public's) help. We are not an island. We need phone calls and letters to continue."

Investigators stressed that no piece of information is too small or insignificant. Someone may want to come forward who didn't before; there may be others who want to change, or add to, information they supplied to police.

Mrs. Mirack's resolve to find Christy's killer lives on in her husband and surviving son and daughter.

"You don't think something like this will happen to you," she said during the interview in September, "and when it does, it's overwhelming."

Less than two months later, mother was buried alongside daughter at All Saints Cemetery in rural Elysburg.

[smile22]

hi every one tomrow monday will be janice pocketts 31st ann, since the day she went missing in july at the age of 8 in 1973




i pray that she is found, and that the horable person who did this is also found




im going to light a candle at nite for her

[LinasK]

I can't find a link....it was a Dublin, CA girl, Eileen Mishaloff, I think I spelled her name wrong. She was an ice skater, she was walking I think home to or from the rink and she was never scene again. I was working in Dublin when this happened I can't even remember the year. I looked on www.missingkids.com (http://www.missingkids.com/) and I couldn't find her missing poster. I think she was later thought to be a runaway and no one ever mentioned her again. She didn't take any of her stuff with her and she gave me the feeling that she wasn't a runaway................Does anyone else remember her? I still think about her.Mystery Momma, Yes I know something about this case, I live in the area. Her name I believe is spelled Ilene Mischeloff. She was abducted walking between school/home and Dublin Iceland. She was never classified as a runaway. She is believed to be a victim of foul play. Her mother still holds candlelight vigils for her and her missing posters can still be found in a few storefronts in Dublin.
There was a murdering couple (James Daveggio & Michelle Michaud) just a couple of years ago that abducted and killed a Phillipino woman from Pleasanton walking on her way to work and dumped her body near Lake Tahoe. They grabbed her off the street and tortured her in their van. They are suspects in the disappearance of Ilene Mischeloff.:twocents:

[MaryBelle]

I just had to mention Angie Housmann on this thread. Hers is the most disturbing child abduction / murder case I have ever known of in my entire life.

Angie was found dead a short distance from where I live in a nature preserve area. She had been molested and tortured for days before being tied to a tree naked and left in the forest alone in freezing temperatures. Her clothes were in a bag nearby. Police believe she had been kept and tortured for about a week and then left in the forest for about 3 days & nights afterwards before she died - which by that time had to be a blessing for her. My husband used to be in law enforcement and one of the LE who was called to the scene when she was found (by hunters) told my husband that the things that had been done to this little girl were so horrible they could never be talked about.

She was just a sweet little girl who wanted to be everyone's friend. PLEASE read this article about Angie and remember her. It is just so sad. Periodically the local news does an update feature talking with her poor mother. My heart breaks for her. The monster who did this has never been caught.

[snip]
St. Louis, MO -- On Nov. 18, 1993, Angie Housman, a trusting fourth-grader, vanished after getting off her school bus up the street from her home. Nine days after her disappearance, a deer hunter found her body in a wooded area. Angie had been tied to a tree and died slowly of exposure.
She had been raped and tortured.

Police are nowhere near solving the case.

Detectives have tracked down more than 300 leads in their fruitless investigation into Angie's death. "If you're looking for a bunch of frustrated policeman, this is the place to come," said St. Louis Sgt. Riley Hughes, who is heading the Major Case effort.

"This is the most frustrating case I've encountered in my 30 1/2 years as a policeman."

[snip]
"It's our feeling she got in a car on her own," Hughes said. "She was starved for affection.
She told people, `I want to be your friend.' She was a little more trusting than many kids."

Another Major Case squad investigator added: "We've learned that Angie would meet you two or three times and you were her friend. We've been told that she'd go up to people and say,
`Hi. My name is Angie. Are you my friend?'

<http://www.kgl900.com/html/body_angie.htm>

[BethInAK]

Tara Leigh Calico
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news03/091903_news_tara.shtml
her disappearance was rather simple but the polaroids found later were not...
http://home.earthlink.net/~jenbird/calico.html

[messiecake]

Tara Leigh Calico
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news03/091903_news_tara.shtml
her disappearance was rather simple but the polaroids found later were not...
http://home.earthlink.net/~jenbird/calico.html

Isnt that creepy? We were discussing this case in another thread.To find three pictures in three different areas of what appears to be her........chilling.
I think all too often we discount "white slavery" cases as being just too far fetched but clearly,imo,Tara was/is being kept alive somewhere.

[KATKAT19691]

I am sure this will get many of you up in arms, but one way to make sure we can always find our babies is tracking device, much like they use for people on house arrest. if we can use those leg brac. to keep track of them we could use them to track our kids if they come missing. also they have a device in cell phones that can be tracked i wish they could somehow put one in jewerly or something so we could track them if needed. tell me what you think. the worst thing i can think of is not knowing where or what happened to my son.

kat

[blueclouds]

I am sure this will get many of you up in arms, but one way to make sure we can always find our babies is tracking device, much like they use for people on house arrest. if we can use those leg brac. to keep track of them we could use them to track our kids if they come missing. also they have a device in cell phones that can be tracked i wish they could somehow put one in jewerly or something so we could track them if needed. tell me what you think. the worst thing i can think of is not knowing where or what happened to my son.

kat
There is actually a PRODUCT they are working on that is embedded in the skin and works with a GPS system. NOT ready yet however. The ASIAN are working with "manipulating" skin with computer chips.

However scary this sounds with reference to "Revelations" in the BIBLE, I would rather put something in my kids skin than to wish I had NOT.

[emma l]

This case has bothered me for ages..its beyond creepy. I read that apparently the police siad at the time that they didnt believe the photos were Tara, but that her parents had an independent "ear matching" test done over here at Scotland Yard and they confirmed that it was indeed Tara. Also there was the v obvious clue of the Virginia Andrews book- which was apparently Taras favourite author..............This is too much of a coincidence. I wonder why they left them though? Is obviously not an accident. But then to have no other contact after that? Also read that the boy in the photos was believed to be Michael Henley- a boy missing at the time who has since be found dead. No other info on him though. It would be wonderful to think Tara was still alive.............

[smile22]

what if that book was left buy the kidnapers but she somehow when they werent looking got a hold of a pen and put down the number of where she was at im sure she heard them talking to people and im sure the kidnapers had to give out the number a few times u know like if they are calling a friend and they are like im at this place now this is the number. becuse there friends are most likely shaddy people and dont want them comming in and out of the house you know looks suspicus. didn the parents find a number but it was all scratched out i wonder if they used a magnifing glass to better see the numbers

[emma l]

Smile,
Appparently they DID call all possible combinatons of this phone number and none of them led to Tara. I think there were 30 something possible combinations.
I think you are right though- there are only 2 possible explanations for the number:
1) Tara somehow managed to write it as a way of tracking her.
2) The kidnappers wrote it as some kind of clue.

With either of these the number could be many things- a phone number, a code of a street name or address, a code of a persons name, some kind of message to Taras family, a message regarding her fate- perhaps a date...........The list just goes on and on!! I don't think that number is there by accident- WHATEVER it was meant to say, the message hasn't got through! On the other hand maybe its somekind of message to the abducters friends...some kind of secret code or something. Goodness knows, there are so many possible explanations, you could try and decifer this code forever.......

My personal view? I think the code is a message- a private message of some kind and that somebody, somewhere knows da*n well what it means, but has chosen not to say. Kidnappers don't have the time or inclination to make up complicated codes- I think this is something really obvious thats been overlooked. I think the photos themselves are also some kind of code- wasn't there a really weird one with her bound in gauze or something??

Interestingly I also found this link to missing boy Zack Bernhardt of a photo found of a boy bound and gagged which might be him.....Connected? Very possibly. Even if this photo isn't Zack, theres still a child bound and gagged.....

Heres the link http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/958923/detail.html

I'm gonna post this on Zacks thread as well.

[BethInAK]

This case has bothered me for ages..its beyond creepy. I read that apparently the police siad at the time that they didnt believe the photos were Tara, but that her parents had an independent "ear matching" test done over here at Scotland Yard and they confirmed that it was indeed Tara. Also there was the v obvious clue of the Virginia Andrews book- which was apparently Taras favourite author..............This is too much of a coincidence. I wonder why they left them though? Is obviously not an accident. But then to have no other contact after that? Also read that the boy in the photos was believed to be Michael Henley- a boy missing at the time who has since be found dead. No other info on him though. It would be wonderful to think Tara was still alive.............
Michael Henley was found in the same place he disappeared, hunting with his father or grandfather, I think. He died of exposure when he got lost. Took ten years or something to find him - must have been pretty lost.

I find it very interesting about the ear matching! I spent hours staring at the photo to try and see if both girls had the same type earlobe (attached or detached).

[sadiesue]

I recently had a long conversation with several friends about missing persons. I think it was right about the time that Lori Hacking was missing.

I hope this comes across well, and the story isn't viewed as totally insensitive. But you know how groups of good friends can get, hanging out with a couple of cocktails.

These are guys who grew up in the country, many working on farms, some now farmers themselves, some now businessmen, etc. I grew up in the city.

A couple of the men in the group started asking each other "if you wanted to make someone disappear forever, what would you do?" The overwhelming response was "I'd throw him in with the hogs".

Our resident hog farmer confirmed the fact that a pen of hungry pigs could make a person disappear pretty quickly, (insert Hannibal flashbacks here) and any "smart killer" would do just that. Horrifying, terrible thought, but one that made me wonder if some of the missing people in the world disappeared that way.

It also got me thinking, if there is a missing person in a farming community, do you suppose the local law enforcement even thinks to look around hog farms? Or question the farmers? Is it common knowledge? Being a city girl, I was pretty shocked and horrified, I knew hogs were mean, but damn!

My hog farming friend also told a story about another hog farmer that he knows (I do not know him) who was once approached by a wealty man who offered him big bucks to ignore any activity out by his barn late at night. The farmer refused, but my friend thinks that disposing of a body might have been the goal.

Brittany Beers lived within an hour of many pig farms. Seeing her name here in this thread reminded me of this conversation.

What is your opinion on this? Do you think it's something that should be looked into further, when people in rural areas go missing?

Could hog farmers all over the country be making cash by turning a blind eye?

Scary to think about, isn't it?

[emma l]

Bethinak,
I also spent hours looking at the ears and trying to work out whether it was Tara. Apparently the girl in the photos also had the same hair line as Tara and a scar on her leg from an accident she had as a child (I've spent hours looking for this and couldn't see it). i think its safe to to say it IS her..............too much of a coincidence otherwise.

Interestingly though I read that the police based the idea of the photo not being Tara on one simple fact- the girl in the photo has shaved legs, why would a kidnapper shave or allow an abducted girl to shave her legs?

I personally think its pretty self-explanatory.........You def would let the person shave their legs/wash/do their hair etc if you were keeping them for certain reasons........ I don't think i need to go into details...................
Apparently the girl in the photos was seen by witnesses on a beach shortly beore the photo was found. She was apparently surrounded by males and was being ordered around......but the police suspected it might have been staged...........Who knows? Its a pretty elaborate hoax.

[emma l]

sadiesue,

I think this is unfortunately a definite possibility............Weirdly I only thought about it for the first time when I saw that Hannibal lector film. I was watching it with my boyfriend and he wasn't suprised- he said that its a well known fact how vicious hogs are! Thinking about how often I read up on true crime, its unbelivable I never thought about it before really........

Its a truly horrible thought, but people will do a lot of things for money. You'd hope they'd draw the line where children are concerned, but most people have a price. People can be pretty cheap...........

As I was posting this I remembered about a case of missing womans DNA being found on a pig farm........heres the (RATHER GRUESOME- BE WARNED) link to the story
http://www.missingpeople.net/another_woman's_dna_found_at_pig_farm-sept_17,_2002.htm

[shellbee]

A couple of the men in the group started asking each other "if you wanted to make someone disappear forever, what would you do?" The overwhelming response was "I'd throw him in with the hogs".
This actually happened in a rather famous, or maybe I should say infamous, case here in Michigan.

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/ognjan.html

http://www.freep.com/news/mich/bros30_20031030.htm

[sadiesue]

Wow Shellbee and Emma, your links make me wonder even more if it happens more frequently than city dwellers might realize.

Pretty scary.

My husband, having grown up in the country, thinks that rural law enforcement probably isn't smart enough to think of hog farms when people come up missing. I'm hoping he's wrong.

[BethInAK]

Interestingly though I read that the police based the idea of the photo not being Tara on one simple fact- the girl in the photo has shaved legs, why would a kidnapper shave or allow an abducted girl to shave her legs?

I personally think its pretty self-explanatory.........You def would let the person shave their legs/wash/do their hair etc if you were keeping them for certain reasons........ I don't think i need to go into details...................
Apparently the girl in the photos was seen by witnesses on a beach shortly beore the photo was found. She was apparently surrounded by males and was being ordered around......but the police suspected it might have been staged...........Who knows? Its a pretty elaborate hoax.
I had read about the men ordering the young lady around, and considered it might have been a consensual relationship that she had with the men, but hadn't heard all of the other similarities you mention.

Yes, if you kidnap someone for sexual reasons, you might want them to shave their legs.

It makes me more scared to consider how long Tara might have lived like this than it would to think that someone took and killed her quickly. IIRC, this photo was found MONTHS after Tara was kidnapped.

And who the hell is that little boy?

[emma l]

BethInak,

I think about the boy in the photos a lot. Its weird that nobody came forward and said it was their child- apart from Micheal Henleys parents.....and as he was said to have died from exposure..................... Although I did notice in the article that Taras parents say that they "even have their doubts about that".....................

I was saying in the Zack Bernhardt thread that although it obviously couldn't be Zack in the photos with Tara, it is weird that the boy in that photo and the boy in the photo found bound and gagged around the time Zack dissapeared are both similar in looks- blonde haired, similar colouring etc. And that photo was also found outside a convience store as well- something about this is really bugging me.............

I also noticed that Tara disappeared in September 1988 and the first photo of her and the boy was taken on film not available until May 1989, the 2nd in June 1989 and the third in FEBRUARY 1990.

This would suggest that the photographer deliberately chose film that would tell people the time it was taken.......Why would anyone bother to do this if not to give some kind of clue or message that Tara was still alive months after she vanished?

Poor Tara, and that poor little boy. It must be devastating for her family, knowing she might have been alive for months after she disappeared- that she might even be somewhere right now. I think the pain of not knowing, of trying to keep some kind of hope alive would crush me. I don't know how people cope.

[messiecake]

BethInak,

I think about the boy in the photos a lot. Its weird that nobody came forward and said it was their child- apart from Micheal Henleys parents.....and as he was said to have died from exposure..................... Although I did notice in the article that Taras parents say that they "even have their doubts about that".....................

I was saying in the Zack Bernhardt thread that although it obviously couldn't be Zack in the photos with Tara, it is weird that the boy in that photo and the boy in the photo found bound and gagged around the time Zack dissapeared are both similar in looks- blonde haired, similar colouring etc. And that photo was also found outside a convience store as well- something about this is really bugging me.............

I also noticed that Tara disappeared in September 1988 and the first photo of her and the boy was taken on film not available until May 1989, the 2nd in June 1989 and the third in FEBRUARY 1990.

This would suggest that the photographer deliberately chose film that would tell people the time it was taken.......Why would anyone bother to do this if not to give some kind of clue or message that Tara was still alive months after she vanished?

Poor Tara, and that poor little boy. It must be devastating for her family, knowing she might have been alive for months after she disappeared- that she might even be somewhere right now. I think the pain of not knowing, of trying to keep some kind of hope alive would crush me. I don't know how people cope.



Emma,
I too have been thinking about these cases (I guess we're sharing brainwaves! :) )and in my opinion they are related as the m/os are just too similar.
Think about it.........how many people(children) are abducted and held for longer than 24-48 hours? I dont have a statisic handy but if my memory serves me don't they say that if an abducted child is usually murdered within 2-3 hours after being kidnapped? And if/when they are held is it more than two days? Very rarely(yes theres Elizabeth Smart & Steven Stayer but their cases are anomilies are they not?) and in addition,how often do the abductors take photographs? I know sometimes a memento of sorts is kept(a piece of jewelry or clothing etc) but to my knowledge concrete evidence,i.e photos is again quite rare as is leaving said photos in a public place (those photos were left on purpose to be found imo).

I belive you're correct Emma in regards to the boys similarities and I belive that was deliberate too.


Very chilling!!!!!!!!!

[BethInAK]

BethInak,

I was saying in the Zack Bernhardt thread that although it obviously couldn't be Zack in the photos with Tara, it is weird that the boy in that photo and the boy in the photo found bound and gagged around the time Zack dissapeared are both similar in looks- blonde haired, similar colouring etc. And that photo was also found outside a convience store as well- something about this is really bugging me.............

I also noticed that Tara disappeared in September 1988 and the first photo of her and the boy was taken on film not available until May 1989, the 2nd in June 1989 and the third in FEBRUARY 1990.

This would suggest that the photographer deliberately chose film that would tell people the time it was taken.......Why would anyone bother to do this if not to give some kind of clue or message that Tara was still alive months after she vanished?

Poor Tara, and that poor little boy. It must be devastating for her family, knowing she might have been alive for months after she disappeared- that she might even be somewhere right now. I think the pain of not knowing, of trying to keep some kind of hope alive would crush me. I don't know how people cope.

Emma!
Tell me about the second and third photos. In all my searches on Tara, I never heard of them.

[KATKAT19691]

There is actually a PRODUCT they are working on that is embedded in the skin and works with a GPS system. NOT ready yet however. The ASIAN are working with "manipulating" skin with computer chips.

However scary this sounds with reference to "Revelations" in the BIBLE, I would rather put something in my kids skin than to wish I had NOT.



I am in agreement with you on that. Just think how easy it would be to find these kids and return them home to mom, instead of mom spending the rest of her life wondering what happened to her child. It will be the best protection for our children.

[2sisters]

Case that haunt me are:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1ufny.html, the boy in the box. How could a child reamin unidentified for so long. Someone knows something and aunt, brother, sister, grandparent. Even a family aquantance.
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1ufny.html Caledonia, NY Jane Doe. I think her case can be solved. She is probably a runaway who had a falling out with her family and is estranged then met up with the wrong person/people (maybe organized crime?) Her family maybe hasn't looked for her yet and don't even realize she has died. There probably wasn't a missing persons report filed or it was lost.
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/34dfca.html Gayle Marks. I wonder if Wesley Shermantine has any information on her. He was convicted of killing 2 girls in Stockton, CA or the surrounding area in the 80's. The remains were never found but they had enough evidence to convict. Her mother has a nice website set up for Gayle at http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/GayleMarks/
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/374dfme.html Kimberly Moreau. I really have no thoughts about her. Maybe someone else out there does.

[emma l]

QUOTE=BethInAK]Emma!
Tell me about the second and third photos. In all my searches on Tara, I never heard of them.[/QUOTE]

Hey 2 sisters. Unfortunatley I've never seen the other photos,but they're mentioned in several articles.....

Theres this quote from the old MPCNN site and a news article

http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news03/091903_news_tara.shtml
"Two other similar photographs have surfaced over the years. One Polaroid, made on film that was unavailable until June 1989, was found near a residential construction site in Montecito, California and depicted a girl's face with her mouth covered by duct tape. The image is blurry, but Calico's mother says she thinks the girl in the photo is her daughter. She has a cowlick on her right temple like Calico, and also a lazy eye like Calico has. The blue-striped fabric the girl is lying on is similar to the pillow in the first photo.
The third Polaroid photograph was shot on film not available until February of 1990 shows a woman who is loosely bound in gauze and has her eyes covered with gauze and large black-framed glasses. There is a man sitting next to her on the passenger seat of an Amtrak train. Calico's mother is not sure whether the girl is daughter;or if its a cruel joke. Still, the man's face is included with two other suspect composites"
snip................................

I can't find a picture of the suspect composites anywhere which is annoying. Even if the 3rd photo is a fake, that still leaves the one taken in 1989. Thats a year after Tara was taken. Very spooky.............

Messiecake- we are indeed sharing brainwaves...........I believe that they are either related or are made to look like they are.....too similar otherwise. I wonder if its ever been looked into?

[taffy]

Don't know why this case sticks in my mind. She was only 20 years old. She had only been married 10 days. I think it happened in 1992 and it has never been solved. She's from Kansas. Have you ever heard of this case?

Taffy

[emma l]

Hey Taffy,

This was the only link I could find to a Jennifer Judd- is this her?

http://www.unsolvedcrimes.com/juddj.html

I hadn't heard of this case before and I can't find any other links- sometimes unsolved murder cases get almost no publicity- which is terrible. Do you have nay more info on her?

[fotoaus]

I been looking at this for a long time now and have lost 23MB of info stored also an old posting on websleuths disappeared as well.
http://fbi.edgesuite.net/mostwant/seekinfo/zywicki.htm

[emma l]

Hey Fotoaus- how did you manage to lose so much info?!! :( You know you can usually take PC's into a store and they can recover even deleted information.

My boyfriends computer died and in it was a full album of songs that his band had written and they have had interest from Sony Records so he was distraught!!
But they recovered it fine- he was sooooooooo worried. Anyway it might be worth a try. You might not even have to pay if it is a hardware or software problem that caused you to lose it and it is still under guarantee. :dance:

Anyway here's all Tammy's google links http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Tammy+J.+Zywicki&btnG=Google+Search

And here's an interesting article http://web.grinnell.edu/sandb/archives/volume119/07/news/zywicki.html

[curves]

You're right. Ken and Si were responsible for the deaths of these girls. They rode at Si's brother's barn and witnessed Ken's brother planting a bomb on Si's brother's car. (Si eventually succeeded in killing his brother years later). An assistant trainer, a young woman named Cherie, was asked to bring the car around to the front. The car exploded and she was killed. The three girls were witnesses, so Si had Ken kill them. Ken used his boat (which matched the description given by eyewitnesses) and then burned it. (he also collected insurance for the 'accident' to his boat).

The real mystery is where did Si's nephew, Frank Jayne Jr., put the body of Brach candy heiress Helen Brach. There have been books and movies about Helen Brach, but no one has ever found her body. Jayne's accomplice, Richard Bailey is in prison for life for his involvement in her murder.

Has this been proven, about Ken and Silas killing the 3 girls?

[kitap]

I am sure this will get many of you up in arms, but one way to make sure we can always find our babies is tracking device, much like they use for people on house arrest. if we can use those leg brac. to keep track of them we could use them to track our kids if they come missing. also they have a device in cell phones that can be tracked i wish they could somehow put one in jewerly or something so we could track them if needed. tell me what you think. the worst thing i can think of is not knowing where or what happened to my son.

kat
I doubt this would work as undoubtably kidnappers would take off the item. Anything in the skin would probably get ripped out (ouch!).

kitap

[misterallgood]

Isnt that creepy? We were discussing this case in another thread.To find three pictures in three different areas of what appears to be her........chilling.
I think all too often we discount "white slavery" cases as being just too far fetched but clearly,imo,Tara was/is being kept alive somewhere.
I normally wouldn't post to messages on a thread that are many months old, but I had to say somewhere that I too have been very bothered by these photos for years, since I first saw them on Unsolved Mysteries.

I've never thought it was an elaborate hoax, either. Things that have occurred to me are "pedophile gangs" or a ring - among criminals of a certain sort, they seem to be the ones most likely to band together at times in some fashion. There appears to be a mindset among pedos that they are not criminals, simply victims of a global prejudice. (I know...amazing, huh?)

Another thing that's occurred to me is of course that these were the taunts of a still active and mobile serial killer. This...

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/958923/detail.html

posted earlier in this thread, made me wonder.

If it's a hoax, it's a very strange and oblique one.

Other questions I've had were the same as some asked earlier in this thread...the significance of the book. If Tara Calico liked VC Andrews, does that mean the kidnapper cared enough about her to let her get a book by her favorite author? And what about the shaven legs? Could it have been done for her?

If the book was placed by the photographer, was there another sort of significance there altogether? The plot is classic gothic Andrews...deeply buried family secrets, rape, incest...control and possession. It would still be a rather vague statement.

Whatever the case, it also smacks of one of those big questions that just won't ever get answered, and that's perhaps the saddest part.

Steve

http://www.planethuff.com/darkside

[messiecake]

Whatever the case, it also smacks of one of those big questions that just won't ever get answered, and that's perhaps the saddest part.

Steve




So frustrating isn't it? The pictures have really haunted me and I just can't belive it wasn't really investigated(the thing about the shaved legs is so stupid! Of course someone being held "captive" could have shaved their legs or had them shaved for her-duh!!)

I tend to discount stories of missing persons being held for years by a group or gang usually because they're either scams,the ramblings of a nutcase or "satanic panic" cult nonsense but clearly ,imo,in this case there was more than 1 person at work and Tara was indeed held for a long period of time.


Thanks for posting and with cold cases its never TOO late to post!

[Richard]

[QUOTE=messiecake I tend to discount stories of missing persons being held for years by a group or gang usually because they're either scams,the ramblings of a nutcase or "satanic panic" cult nonsense but clearly ,imo,in this case there was more than 1 person at work and Tara was indeed held for a long period of time.

Although the sad reality is that most stranger abduction cases end in the death of the victim within a relatively short time, there have been cases where the victim is held for many days, months, and even years after the initial abduction. There is one case in particular - that of Cameron Hooker and his wife Janice who picked up hitch hiker Colleen Stan in California in 1977, and then proceeded to hold her for seven years. Most of that time, she was kept in a box in a mobile home and was repeatedly raped by Cameron Hooker. The crime is detailed in the book "Perfect Victim" by Christine McGuire and Carla Norton (1988).

[monkalup]

and Blue Earth MN Doe 183UFMN
found in 1980

[messiecake]

[QUOTE=messiecake I tend to discount stories of missing persons being held for years by a group or gang usually because they're either scams,the ramblings of a nutcase or "satanic panic" cult nonsense but clearly ,imo,in this case there was more than 1 person at work and Tara was indeed held for a long period of time.

Although the sad reality is that most stranger abduction cases end in the death of the victim within a relatively short time, there have been cases where the victim is held for many days, months, and even years after the initial abduction. There is one case in particular - that of Cameron Hooker and his wife Janice who picked up hitch hiker Colleen Stan in California in 1977, and then proceeded to hold her for seven years. Most of that time, she was kept in a box in a mobile home and was repeatedly raped by Cameron Hooker. The crime is detailed in the book "Perfect Victim" by Christine McGuire and Carla Norton (1988).

Ive read "Perfect Victim"-very intriquing case but the book dissapointed me somewhat.
Oh I know it HAS happened("I know My First Name Is Steven" being another) it's just very rare is all I am saying.
I am cautious about claims due to various scam artists .One of whom has even showed up here at W/S (although he is banned).

[smile22]

yes their are scam artists out their who will say anything to you to get you to belive in what they are saying always check with a reliable source ex le someone handing the case if you feel that you are dealing with a con

[monkalup]

I just had to mention Angie Housmann on this thread. Hers is the most disturbing child abduction / murder case I have ever known of in my entire life.

Angie was found dead a short distance from where I live in a nature preserve area. She had been molested and tortured for days before being tied to a tree naked and left in the forest alone in freezing temperatures. Her clothes were in a bag nearby. Police believe she had been kept and tortured for about a week and then left in the forest for about 3 days & nights afterwards before she died - which by that time had to be a blessing for her. My husband used to be in law enforcement and one of the LE who was called to the scene when she was found (by hunters) told my husband that the things that had been done to this little girl were so horrible they could never be talked about.

She was just a sweet little girl who wanted to be everyone's friend. PLEASE read this article about Angie and remember her. It is just so sad. Periodically the local news does an update feature talking with her poor mother. My heart breaks for her. The monster who did this has never been caught.

[snip]
St. Louis, MO -- On Nov. 18, 1993, Angie Housman, a trusting fourth-grader, vanished after getting off her school bus up the street from her home. Nine days after her disappearance, a deer hunter found her body in a wooded area. Angie had been tied to a tree and died slowly of exposure.
She had been raped and tortured.

Police are nowhere near solving the case.

Detectives have tracked down more than 300 leads in their fruitless investigation into Angie's death. "If you're looking for a bunch of frustrated policeman, this is the place to come," said St. Louis Sgt. Riley Hughes, who is heading the Major Case effort.

"This is the most frustrating case I've encountered in my 30 1/2 years as a policeman."

[snip]
"It's our feeling she got in a car on her own," Hughes said. "She was starved for affection.
She told people, `I want to be your friend.' She was a little more trusting than many kids."

Another Major Case squad investigator added: "We've learned that Angie would meet you two or three times and you were her friend. We've been told that she'd go up to people and say,
`Hi. My name is Angie. Are you my friend?'

<http://www.kgl900.com/html/body_angie.htm>


Simply breaks my heart

[Becba]

The picture of Tara and that little boy have haunted me since a child. I was in my teens when this photo was found outside a convience store. The town it was found in was about 20 miles away and in the same county.

The official statement released at that time was that one of the families said it wasn't their kid despite the police believing it was. Gossip went around that this family did not care about their kid. Terrible things to say about a family suffering such a loss.

Tara seems like a good match and so did the boy untill I heard his remains were found. But his family do not believe those are his remains.

A white Toyota van was parked in the parking lot. When the person that found the photo came from the store, the photo was there and the van was gone.

I have always thought these kids were transported far from where they were stolen and transported down south in FL. I still hold out hope they maybe alive.

[smile22]

their is hope that they could be still alive but with each year that passes it fades faster and faster.. lately ive been really wanting to solve the case of missing ct girl janice pockett it has haunted me for a while and is close to home since i live in the state she was taken from and its about 45 minnuts from my house. if anyone is intrested in the pockett case their is a thread on it and you can pm me

[Sunshinelady]

There are many cold cases that haunt me but this is perhaps the most haunting cold case against a child that I have ever come along. It involves an unidentified African American female child found in St. Louis, Missouri on February 28, 1983 in a vacant apartment building. She was lying face-down in a furnace room with her hands tied behind her back with red and white nylon rope. The victim had been sexually assaulted prior to being strangled, which was the cause of her death. She was decapitated and her head was never found. She is the only child on The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children(NCMEC) without any type of photo or sketch. Only the bloodied yellow v-necked sweater she was wearing is pictured.

Here is her Doe Network Page:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/54ufmo.html

Read More Here:

The Case That Haunts The most notorious cold case in the history of the St. Louis Police Department still haunts homicide detectives BY CHAD GARRISON


http://riverfronttimes.com/issues/2004-12-01/news/feature.html

[Richard]

There are many cold cases that haunt me but this is perhaps the most haunting cold case against a child that I have ever come along. It involves an unidentified African American female child found [font=Times New Roman][size=3]in St. Louis, Missouri on February 28, 1983 in a vacant apartment building. She was lying face-down in a furnace room with her hands tied behind her back with red and white nylon rope. The victim had been sexually assaulted prior to being strangled, which was the cause of her death. She was decapitated and her head was never found. She is the only child on The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children(NCMEC) without any type of photo or sketch. Only the bloodied yellow v-necked sweater she was wearing is pictured....]

I have often wondered if this little girl might have been a victim of the BTK killer of Kansas. Except for the decapitation, there are a lot of similarities. It occurred during the span of killings generally attributed to him, the child was found inside a building, bound, strangled, and stabbed (if you consider the decapitation). Here is some more info on her:
Unidentified African-American Female Child

Located on February 28, 1983 in St. Louis, Missouri
Cause of death was homicide; the victim was strangled.

Vital Statistics
Estimated age: 8 - 11 years old (DOB circa 1972-75).
Approximate Height and Weight: 4'10"; 70 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: She was well-nourished. She had no scars, deformities or irregularities. Medium complexion.
Clothing: She was wearing a yellow v-necked sweater and 2 coats of red fingernail polish.

Case History
The victim was located in a vacant apartment building on Clemens Avenue in St. Louis, Missouri on February 28, 1983. Two men who were in the basement of the building discovered the young girl. She was lying face-down in the furnace room with her hands tied behind her back with red and white nylon rope. The victim had been sexually assaulted prior to being strangled, which was the cause of her death.
The victim's head had been removed with a large-bladed knife after her death. Her head has never been discovered. She had been killed elsewhere and brought to the vacant building after her death.
There were no signs of previous abuse on the victim's body. There was no specific features that would give clues as to her identity.
The St. Louis authorities have conducted extensive investigations into the victim's identity since 1983 and have received no clear leads. Her murderer(s) remain unknown, although several suspects have been under investigation. No arrests have been made in the case.

If you have any information concerning this young girl's identity or the circumstances surrounding her homicide, please contact: St. Louis Police Department, Detective Thomas Carroll 314-444-5371

NCIC Number: U-470002710

Source Information:
NCMEC
Jane Doe: The Girl Nobody Seems To Miss
The Doe Network: Case File 54UFMO

[indigomood]

Nancy Jo Canode was young and beautiful, with two children, a hard-working husband and a comfortable two-level apartment in Ponte Vedra Beach.
So why did someone rape her, tie a rope around her neck, and stab her with an ice pick and a kitchen knife until she died?

No one knows, except her killer...

http://www.staugustine.com/stories99/060399/unsolved_murder.shtml
(register)

did the husband do it??

[LinasK]

Mystery Momma, Yes I know something about this case, I live in the area. Her name I believe is spelled Ilene Mischeloff. She was abducted walking between school/home and Dublin Iceland. She was never classified as a runaway. She is believed to be a victim of foul play. Her mother still holds candlelight vigils for her and her missing posters can still be found in a few storefronts in Dublin.
There was a murdering couple (James Daveggio & Michelle Michaud) just a couple of years ago that abducted and killed a Phillipino woman from Pleasanton walking on her way to work and dumped her body near Lake Tahoe. They grabbed her off the street and tortured her in their van. They are suspects in the disappearance of Ilene Mischeloff.:twocents:
There will be a candlelight vigil held for Ilene in the next few days, I forgot the exact date. It has been 16 years since she disappeared, she is gone, but not forgotten.

[mysteriew]

I just started a thread on this case today:
16 yo Cheryl Fossyl Georgetown, Ohio She was taking law enforcement classes at the local vocational school. Her head was located in Adams County. Ohio and her torso was located in Brown County. Ohio. Still unsolved. Allegations of an offical coverup.

http://www.kdbs.us/help_the_children_link.htm


Carrie Culberson Blanchester, Ohio 24 yo disappeared in 1996 and presumed dead. Body has never been found. Boyfriend has convicted of the murder and his brother of helping to cover up the murder. A civil suit was filed against the city of Blanchester by the victim's mother for misconduct by the police chief in investigating the murder.

http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/index.html
http://www.justice4vinceandtracey.com/

The two cases are in adjoining counties: Brown County Ohio and Clinton County Ohio.

[JDB]

I can't find a link....it was a Dublin, CA girl, Eileen Mishaloff, I think I spelled her name wrong. She was an ice skater, she was walking I think home to or from the rink and she was never scene again. I was working in Dublin when this happened I can't even remember the year. I looked on www.missingkids.com and I couldn't find her missing poster. I think she was later thought to be a runaway and no one ever mentioned her again. She didn't take any of her stuff with her and she gave me the feeling that she wasn't a runaway................Does anyone else remember her? I still think about her.


OHH how well I remeber this one. I live in the Bay area. IMHO she was and is not a runaway. Then you had Michela Gerhardt (I know I spelled that one wrong)She was taken from a grocery store just a few miles where I grew up. To this day no leads what so ever.

[Becba]

Pamela June Ray has been missing since 1992. She came to Panama City Beach from Atlanta, at about 5:30 am she parked with her 2 samll children at Whites Motel in search of a room. A man was senn following her as she left her car and a scream was heard. The police fed and saw to her little children but she was never found. Whites motel is within 2 miles of my house. It has long been thought one or more serial killers come to this area due to the vacation atmosphere and people less wary while on vacation. Unidentified bones have been found in wooded areas on roads miles from the town. Aside from her scream Pamela has never been heard from or seen again. Her keys and purse were in the car with the small children.


http://doenetwork.us/cases/595dffl.html

[messiecake]

What's scarier............the fact someone's murder can never be solved OR the fact someone's body is never identified? It just amazes me a body,esp. that of a child,can go without anyone stepping forward saying"that's my child".........it's not like they fell out of the sky! There's family out there somewhere!

It's haunting to think how so many people can just "dissapear" with no clues or witnesses.


Both of these thoughts really scare me.

[joellegirl]

What's scarier............the fact someone's murder can never be solved OR the fact someone's body is never identified? It just amazes me a body,esp. that of a child,can go without anyone stepping forward saying"that's my child".........it's not like they fell out of the sky! There's family out there somewhere!

It's haunting to think how so many people can just "dissapear" with no clues or witnesses.


Both of these thoughts really scare me.

Those thoughts have always scared me too. It is sad how some bodies are never identified-these people must have had some one who noticed them missing and cares!

And the people who just simply vanish, that haunts me so much. That is why the Evelyn Hartley case (I know, I know, I talk about it alot here) has stayed with me for so many years. She was dragged out of that house and simply vanished. The point is, she is somewhere as I write this, dead or alive. Sadly it is more likely she is dead, and has been dead probably since that night 51 years ago. Whoever killed her, hid her body and hid it good. There was such an extensive search to find her but no trace was ever found. There is so much open countryside around La Crosse. I sometimes think maybe a new house will be built, or a new subdivision or shopping mall or road. Maybe her body will be discovered as they dig into the ground. But there is still so so much open land around there, that she could lie there undiscovered for a 1000 years , or forever. And this is just assuming she was buried. Who know what her killers did with her body. That poor girl, I can't imagine the terror she felt as she was sitting in that livingroom, being surprised by the intruders and dragged out and injured badly.

I sometimes wonder what her surviving sibling(s) think. (Her parents, as least her father, have passed away). I wonder if late at night, maybe sitting at the computer, they do a Google search on her name. I wonder if they've read Websleuths. I am disappointed the book that was being written by three LaCrosse residents in no longer in the works, due to money. I hope someone can come forward and help the book get published. According to an article in the La Crosse Tribune some man came forward last year saying he had a tape recording of a man saying he and another man killed Evelyn and buried her near a town south of LaCrosse. I wonder how much that was looked into. It may be made up but who knows-there may be truth in it. It has been always thought that Evelyn was taken south out of town, as the bloodstained jacket they believed to be the abductors, and bloodstained underclothes her size were found along Rt 14. There has been no more talk of that article, though the authors of the book were looking into it at that time, and so were the police.

When I first discovered the MPCCN amd Doe Network, I never realized how many people have just simply vanished, and how many are unidentified. I knew of many cases already (like Evelyn) and knew it has been happenening since the beginning of time, but to see them all together on one website like that. It is just so haunting.

[smile22]

i totaly agree the case of little janice pockett is so close to home she was taken about 45 minnuts from where i live and its so sad that she was never found. went riding her bike to find a butterfly and she vanishes without a trace its been a little over 30 years and still never been found how sad im gona take a trip up to where she was taken with a friend of mine who has visions i duno but we will see what happens

[DonnaNV]

The case that always pops into my mind when I hear about a child disappearing while camping or hiking is the case of little Laura Bradbury (3 years old) who disappeared fom her family's campsite in Joshua Tree National Park (near Palm Springs, CA) in 1984. There was a big search and I remember daily updates in the news for quite some time. I have a vague memory that then child actor, Rick Schroeder, made some public pleas for her safe return. She was a distant relative of his.

I did a web search to try to find information about this case and only found some references which say that she was never found and is believed to have been abducted. I am surprised that her family doesn't have a website for her and that she is not on the official missing children sites (as far as I could find).

Anybody remember this case?

I have thought of this case many times over the past 20 years. I lived in Riverside, CA at the time. Also with a small daughter who resembled Laura.
It haunted me all through the Danielle Van Dam case. Wondering if Westerfield may have been camping at Joshua Tree when Laura disappeared.
Think about it.....Motorhomes, desert, little girl. I always felt that Danielle Van Dam was not his first victim.

[karma100]

You're right. Ken and Si were responsible for the deaths of these girls. They rode at Si's brother's barn and witnessed Ken's brother planting a bomb on Si's brother's car. (Si eventually succeeded in killing his brother years later). An assistant trainer, a young woman named Cherie, was asked to bring the car around to the front. The car exploded and she was killed. The three girls were witnesses, so Si had Ken kill them. Ken used his boat (which matched the description given by eyewitnesses) and then burned it. (he also collected insurance for the 'accident' to his boat).

The real mystery is where did Si's nephew, Frank Jayne Jr., put the body of Brach candy heiress Helen Brach. There have been books and movies about Helen Brach, but no one has ever found her body. Jayne's accomplice, Richard Bailey is in prison for life for his involvement in her murder.

This is my first post here. I found your post and this site because I did a google search to find out about the girls that were missing. I did not know Ken Hansen was a likely tie in. There was a recent story about this -
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050123-114635-5123r.htm (http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050123-114635-5123r.htm)
A horse trainer claims he shot her with the same people that were proven involved in killing three little boys killed in the 1950's and part of that whole Jayne/Hansen scene.

He claims Brach's body was then dumped via mob connections to the Inland Steel Mill in Indiana, which interestingly enough doesn’t seem that far from the Indiana Dunes. Either way, maybe that could be the tie in needed to Indiana for both Helen Brach and these girls to Indiana. There used to be a website that listed a lot of interesting stuff on the Jaynes. Frank Jayne had a son who died in Indiana and a house that burned in Indiana. I think they are getting closer to the truth of what really happened.


Is the information about Ken Hansen’s boat having been used to pick up the girls common knowledge? That is fascinating. I had never read that, but I do recall reading they had a picture or movie of the boat that picked them up from someone on the beach.

[LinasK]

There will be a candlelight vigil held for Ilene in the next few days, I forgot the exact date. It has been 16 years since she disappeared, she is gone, but not forgotten.Update from Contra Costa Times:

"More than 16 years have passed since Mike and Maddi Misheloff last saw their daughter.
Sixteen years of worry. Sixteen years of wondering. And 16 years of candelight vigils to remember the horrible anniversary.
It was Jan. 30, 1989 when Ilene Misheloff, then 13 years old, left Wells Middle School in Dublin at the end of the school day. Ilene, dressed in a charcoal-gray pullover polo sweater and horizontally striped pink-and-gray skirt, was supposed to go to the Dublin Iceland rink for her lesson that afternoon.
She never showed up at the rink.
Detective Mike Toms with the Dublin police, who has been in charge of the Mischeloff case for more than three years, said his department gets a lead on Ilene about every other month.
Mike and Maddi Misheloff have not given up hope of finding Ilene. They and two other volunteers still operate the Ilene Misheloff Recovery Effort out of an office on Village Parkway.
Every Wednesday between 10a.m. and 2 p.m. they send out fliers with Ilene's information and a picture of what she may look like today to law enforcement and fire departments throughout the United States and Canada. Last week they sent out 500 envelopes."
For more information, visit www.find-ilene.org (http://www.find-ilene.org/). Ilene Misheloff was 5 feet 3 inches tall and 115 pounds at the time of her disappearance. She has brown hair and brown eyes and wore braces on her teeth. Anyone with information is asked to call Dublin Police at 925-833-6670 or 1-800-635-6306, or the FBI at 415-553-7400.
A $95,000 reward is being offered.

[coldcasedetective]

I don't know, the cases that haunt me the most are the ones involving children that would be my age today. I can't help but think as I make major milestones "They should be making these too, or at least there parents should be able to see them." I can't imagine what it must be like for the parents of these children, all that uncertainty. Well, here are the Cold Cases that Haunt Me Most(in no particular order)
Karen Grajeda : Missing in 1996 from Arizona
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grajeda_karen.html

Thomas Gibson : Missing in 1991from Oregon
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gibson_thomas.html

Michael Hughes(most of you know about that twisted story)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hughes_michael.html

Bryce Herda : Missing in 1995 from Washington
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/herda_bryce.html

Morgan Nick : Missing in 1995 from Arkansas
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/nick_morgan.html

Randi Evers : Missing in 1992 from Nevada - Something doesn't sit right with me on this, someone knows something they're not saying
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/evers_randi.html

Corrine Erstad : This one bothers me the most, it sucks that they can't try Guevara again, but I got a theory once suggesting that her case and Leeanna Warner's case could be related. Whatever works for you
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/erstad_corrine.html

[golfmom]

I haven't had a chance to read through the entire thread yet, but I wanted to weigh in with the cold case file that I still pray about.

Morgan Nick
At 10:45 p.m. on June 9, 1995 in Alma, Arkansas, six year old Morgan Nick was abducted from a little league ball game by an unidentified man. She was attending the game with her mother and had joined some friends to catch lightning bugs. Morgan was last seen standing near her mother's car where she had stopped to empty sand from her shoes.

[emma l]

I think about Morgan all the time. I created a thread for her some time ago but I cant find it now. Morgans parents set up a foundation in her name and they believe Morgan is still alive. www.morgannick.com

Theres a letter from Morgans parents to her on the site and it broke my heart:
Dear Morgan,

We want you to know how special you are! You are a blessing we cannot live without. We feel cheated every day that goes by that we do not see your smile, hear your bubbly laughter or listen to your thoughts and ideas. We have never stopped believing that we will find you. We are saving all our hugs and kisses for you. Always know that you are loved. Most of all, don't ever give up. We will find you. We promise!

Love,
Mom and Dad

Prayers for Morgan and all missing children..........

[sporto531]

The Sharin Morningstar Keenan case. In 1983, the 9yr old was abducted,molested , murdered and stuffed in a refridgerator in Toronto, Ont. She was found 10 days later, only a couple of house down the street from her home.Dennis Melvin Howe has been charged with first degree murder. He has never been caught. If you have any information regarding this case, please contact me at olivertrio@shaw.ca. Thank you. Todd

[felder]

Bumping this thread. I wish they would solve this case. I am from St. Louis and remember this like it was yesterday. They have fingerprints. Here is an update from the St. Louis Major Case Squad on 11/17/04:

http://www.majorcasesquad.org/releaseb.asp?ID=265

"Angie was 9 years old when two deer hunters found her body in the August A. Busch Memorial Conservation Area. Angie had died from exposure. . .

Police responded to a wooded crime scene on Nov. 27, finding Angie's partially clothed body duct taped to a tree in St. Charles County. Someone had sexually abused the girl and left her to die. . .

St. Ann Police Chief Bob Schrader said investigators have used the best talent and the best technology to crack the Housman case, but to no avail.

"We haven't had that little bit of luck you need in every investigation," Schrader said. "At some point, you need to be in the right place at the right time, like overhearing somebody say something. That hasn't happened. This is a baffling case."

The problem is not a lack of evidence. Schrader said police found fingerprints on the adhesive side of the duct tape.

"We haven't found anyone who matches the fingerprints," he said. "This is not a case where we know who did it and can't prove it. If we had him, we could prove it."

Lt. Robert Boerding, of the St. Charles County Sheriff's Department, said local police make inquiries every time a similar crime occurs anywhere in the United States.

"We want to make sure there is not someone else out there continually preying on kids," Boerding said. "This person is still at large, so there is always a chance he is still preying on children. But it does not appear that he has the latest lead was 53-year-old Ronnie Johnson, a trucker accused of abducting a 13-year-old Illinois girl and leaving her to die in a manner similar to the Housman case.

"We found out that suspect was locked up at the time of the Housman crime," Schrader said.

Boerding said the leads in the Housman investigation fill about 20 binders, each 4 inches thick. Angie's photograph is on the cover of the first binder."