View Full Version : Brooke Bennett, 12 yrs. old Randolph, VT #2
Amster
07-01-2008, 12:12 AM
Did I read correctly that Brookes Dad knew about this but felt it was awhile ago and she got to visit with her cousins?
What?? :censored:
evelyn24
07-01-2008, 12:15 AM
Did I read correctly that Brookes Dad knew about this but felt it was awhile ago and she got to visit with her cousins?
You know, I don't think that is what he thought, I think he was trying to explain to Nancy Grace why the mom was letting her around the uncle.
As far as I can tell from his various interviews, Jim Bennett does not know too much about the pos uncle.
That's my take on Jim Bennett's comment about Brooke visiting the cousins.
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 12:21 AM
see now I have a problem with this, we can say "shame on the mother, shame on the aunt" for knowing and allowing her to visit her cousins but shame on the father as well. I know he has another family but this is HIS daughter too. He also said in an interview "there was some questions about the uncle but i've never met him" yet, he knew what he IS. I do have my questions about MOM but DAD is the other parent too! I know this is not the time to place blame but I can't help it, this had poor parenting written all over it.
Feel free to attack me on this but he does interviews with his "I don't know" I know only what you know" my a**! He knew alot more than that.
And to top it off mom asks LE not to publicly discuss family dynamics. An odd thing to be worried about when your daughter is missing, IMO.
bluestarzz
07-01-2008, 12:22 AM
oh doesnt sound good :(
bluestarzz
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 12:25 AM
The Burlington Free Press appears down. I haven't been able to access it for an hour.
swanniee11
07-01-2008, 12:25 AM
And to top it off mom asks LE not to publicly discuss family dynamics. An odd thing to be worried about when your daughter is missing, IMO.
Thank you SuziQ, I agree. I've had a hard time with the fact that she would not talk to the press either. Its not like Mom and Dad are still together and he was the one doing the talking, she could have added alot of insight ( obviously she didnt want to) as to what was going on. This whole thing just kills me.
Someone needs to be our childrens advocates, if its not the parents then who?
swanniee11
07-01-2008, 12:26 AM
The Burlington Free Press appears down. I haven't been able to access it for an hour.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that I have every paper/news station as an open file right now. lol
amomandherblog
07-01-2008, 12:26 AM
Feel free to attack me on this but he does interviews with his "I don't know" I know only what you know" my a**! He knew alot more than that.
I've been thinking that for a couple of days now. I think I even blogged it. If my daughter was missing, I'd sure expect to know more than what they're saying on the news.
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 12:29 AM
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that I have every paper/news station as an open file right now. lol
That explains it!
swanniee11
07-01-2008, 12:30 AM
I've been thinking that for a couple of days now. I think I even blogged it. If my daughter was missing, I'd sure expect to know more than what they're saying on the news.
are you kidding me, if this were my child I would sell my mother out to make sure she was found safely, this "DAD" wont even tell anyone about his EX SISTER IN LAWS HUSBAND. I mean really!
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 12:36 AM
The Burlington Free Press appears down. I haven't been able to access it for an hour.
My very dearest Suzi,:blowkiss:
I have been on it for awhile, you might want to try it again.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
cheko1
07-01-2008, 12:38 AM
I'm trying to catch up on posts, so I'm way behind....I'm sure this has been answered, but....no, Vermont most certainly DOES NOT have the death penalty. Sadly.
Welcome to WS amomandherblog! Hard to catch up here tonight.
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 12:40 AM
My very dearest Suzi,:blowkiss:
I have been on it for awhile, you might want to try it again.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
I still can't get on. Are there any updates? Or if we're lucky...charging docs?
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 12:45 AM
I still can't get on. Are there any updates? Or if we're lucky...charging docs?
Dearest Suzi,:blowkiss:
There is nothing at all new on there.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
swanniee11
07-01-2008, 12:46 AM
I still can't get on. Are there any updates? Or if we're lucky...charging docs?
not that i've come across.
I'm going to say goodnight to all, see you tomorrow, hopefully we will have positive news.
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 12:47 AM
Thanks guys. Probably no new info tonight then.
DeterminedPI
07-01-2008, 12:48 AM
I still can't get on. Are there any updates? Or if we're lucky...charging docs?
DS, How do you know that the uncle or others associated with the sex ring made threats against the family? Was that publicized somewhere?
cheko1
07-01-2008, 12:55 AM
I had sincerely hoped LE had laid heavy on MJ & he broke down & told where Brooke was at.
I also don't understand why her Mom hasn't spoken begging for any information from the public. I just don't get it......she lets her daughter stay at a RSO home. Whether he has daughters or not would make no difference to me.
On the video where he was in court his eyes appeared to be wild....scared the daylights out of me. His wife Denise was at court today is she standing by her man? Lots of unanswered questions for me.
KR2tonenow
07-01-2008, 12:55 AM
I am coming in late, we were right on target.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20080630/Vermont.Missing.Girl.Arrest/
I'll get caught on the past posts...
byomoi
07-01-2008, 12:56 AM
Did I read correctly that Brookes Dad knew about this but felt it was awhile ago and she got to visit with her cousins?
Swanniee, perhaps Brook's dad doesn't know what you and all of us know, that a SO doesn't change. One of the posts I read this evening even stated that Jacques had been required to take some kind of a "class" as a condition for release from his last offense. Now you and I know that's a bunch of carp-- but maybe Jon Q. Public thinks that a SO can be "healed"?
:confused:
cheko1
07-01-2008, 12:57 AM
DS, How do you know that the uncle or others associated with the sex ring made threats against the family? Was that publicized somewhere?
Welcome to WS DeterminedPI....
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 12:58 AM
DS, How do you know that the uncle or others associated with the sex ring made threats against the family? Was that publicized somewhere?
Welcome to WS!
RR0004
07-01-2008, 12:58 AM
I've been thinking that for a couple of days now. I think I even blogged it. If my daughter was missing, I'd sure expect to know more than what they're saying on the news.
Welcome...I've read your blog!
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:05 AM
I have to agree with Evelyn on this. I know how NG works things and Jim was trying to explain on his exwife's behalf, I believe. He didn't want to come off as bashing her while their child was missing. I don't think he really knew all about the brother-in-law's past history, but I could be wrong.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:10 AM
DS, How do you know that the uncle or others associated with the sex ring made threats against the family? Was that publicized somewhere?Welcome, PI. I wondered about that myself.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:12 AM
From what the Great Uncle said today about this being very bad for his family and pointing out the women were sisters...I got the feeling that this is dividing his family. In that respect, I would say the answer is likely she is supporting her husband still.
DeterminedPI
07-01-2008, 01:12 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome. This site is very informative. I would still like to know exactly how many people are involved in this sex ring and if threats were actually made against the mother/family.
RR0004
07-01-2008, 01:13 AM
I'm thinking that a 9 year old would believe the president, sex training, slit throat perverted vomit.....but, at some point, it probably changes to "Your family will be killed" type threats. A 12-13-14 year old would know the first lie was a lie, I think.
I wonder if the latest victim is a step daughter?
Missed Greta....did she have anything?
Nothing much on Greta. I understand the dad is in a difficult place tonight, but perhaps Greta could have asked "Do you this guy took your daughter?"
RR0004
07-01-2008, 01:16 AM
Anyone know where it said the girl involved actually saw the "other men"?
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:17 AM
Swanniee, perhaps Brook's dad doesn't know what you and all of us know, that a SO doesn't change. One of the posts I read this evening even stated that Jacques had been required to take some kind of a "class" as a condition for release from his last offense. Now you and I know that's a bunch of carp-- but maybe Jon Q. Public thinks that a SO can be "healed"?
:confused:You do make a valid point, Byomoi. If the system is saying he is reformed and cuts him loose...there are probably many people who believe he truly would not re-offend. They are dead wrong, but it is what our legal system is telling them.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:22 AM
Boy, was I wrong! James Bennett did know.
News of Jacques' possible involvement with his daughter's disappearance came as a surprise to James Bennett. Brooke's father says he knew about Jacques' past conviction on kidnapping and sexual assault and had brought it up as an issue with Brooke's mother.
"It wasn't made a big deal. He was married to Brooke's aunt and there were kids there here age and there was no indication that there was a problem of any kind, so it was never made an issue," he said. "Looking back, knowing what I do today, it would have been a lot different."
http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8580434
Carrington
07-01-2008, 01:23 AM
Swanniee, perhaps Brook's dad doesn't know what you and all of us know, that a SO doesn't change. One of the posts I read this evening even stated that Jacques had been required to take some kind of a "class" as a condition for release from his last offense. Now you and I know that's a bunch of carp-- but maybe Jon Q. Public thinks that a SO can be "healed"?
:confused:
I agree with your reasoning on this issue.
What can LE/Courts do to correct this everlasting and ongoing problem?
The jails aren't big enough to keep the hordes of Sex Offenders.
Everyone should be aware there isn't a magic cure and jail time does no good to stop them once they are back on the street.
We also have the problem of the young still thinking "it won't happen to me" (present case excluded)
Maybe he rented her out for a week to one of his Breckingridge friends and she will be found alive.
There's always hope.
IMO
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:26 AM
Anyone know where it said the girl involved actually saw the "other men"?
The girl, identified only as "A.R." in court papers, said she was told two other girls also were in the program. "The first who does it lives and the second gets her throat cut," she told police, according to the affidavit.
According to the affidavit, the girl said she met two other men besides Jacques who were affiliated with the program. But it didn't specify whether the girl said she had sex with the other men.
Baker said police were investigating whether the alleged sex ring actually existed or whether it was a ruse Jacques allegedly created to intimidate the girl into having sex with him.
http://www.heraldextra.com/component/option,com_contentwire/task,view/id,62959/Itemid,53/ (Bolded by me)
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 01:27 AM
Anyone know where it said the girl involved actually saw the "other men"?
http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8580434
In the police affidavit, it says the victim was told the president of the United States had selected her for the sex program. The president assigns a trainer, and her trainer would be Michael Jacques. And then she was abused-- almost tortured-- on a weekly basis in many different ways for the next five years. The victim testified she had met three men as part of the "Breckenridge" ring who had told her what types of sexual activity she needed to work on to graduate.
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 01:29 AM
You beat me to it SS. See the difference in wording?
It sure would be nice to have a look at those charging docs. Hint...hint...
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:29 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome. This site is very informative. I would still like to know exactly how many people are involved in this sex ring and if threats were actually made against the mother/family.I can't answer about the threats, but if you read the post above...it explains about two other men meeting the latest victim of MJ under the pretense of the "program".
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:31 AM
You beat me to it SS. See the difference in wording?
It sure would be nice to have a look at those charging docs. Hint...hint...Yes, there is definitely a discrepancy in reporting. What I don't understand is, at the presser, they talked like the press were given those affidavits.
RR0004
07-01-2008, 01:32 AM
Baker said police were investigating whether the alleged sex ring actually existed or whether it was a ruse Jacques allegedly created to intimidate the girl into having sex with him.
Thanks, SS. This is more what I was thinking. I hate to say this because looks can be deceiving, but this person doesn't look clever enough to be running an interstate sex ring. He is slimy enough IMO to use g-d awful ruses to intimidate a young child and take advantage of her.
adnoid
07-01-2008, 01:32 AM
...What can LE/Courts do to correct this everlasting and ongoing problem?...
Public execution of child molesters on first offense.
...The jails aren't big enough to keep the hordes of Sex Offenders...
See above.
...Everyone should be aware there isn't a magic cure and jail time does no good to stop them once they are back on the street...
See above.
...We also have the problem of the young still thinking "it won't happen to me" (present case excluded)...
See above.
...Maybe he rented her out for a week to one of his Breckingridge friends and she will be found alive.
There's always hope.
IMO
Had he not been released after his first offense (see above) we would not have to have your scenario as a best case.
I am completely serious. Anyone who would molest a child is a broken, defective human being, and there is no point in keeping them around.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:34 AM
Except RR...the girl claims to have met the two men and possibly three. I would call that a "Ring". If she is telling the truth about the five years of sexual abuse, why would she make up the men?
RR0004
07-01-2008, 01:36 AM
Oh, and I also wouldn't put it past this guy to be a part of an online "network" of peds in which he shares graphic details about his exploits. JMO
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 01:36 AM
Yes, there is definitely a discrepancy in reporting. What I don't understand is, at the presser, they talked like the press were given those affidavits.
And IMO, if they if they are released to the press they are public. I just emailed WCAX asking if they could put the documents online.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:37 AM
And IMO, if they if they are released to the press they are public. I just emailed WCAX asking if they could put the documents online.Great idea! Why didn't you do that hours ago?! :crazy: LOL
RR0004
07-01-2008, 01:38 AM
No arguement here, Adnoid...
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 01:39 AM
Great idea! Why didn't you do that hours ago?! :crazy: LOL
I was trying to be patient, which I'm not good at. lol, I figured it would at least be up after the 11pm news. But.....nooooooo.
evelyn24
07-01-2008, 01:40 AM
Boy, was I wrong! James Bennett did know.
News of Jacques' possible involvement with his daughter's disappearance came as a surprise to James Bennett. Brooke's father says he knew about Jacques' past conviction on kidnapping and sexual assault and had brought it up as an issue with Brooke's mother.
"It wasn't made a big deal. He was married to Brooke's aunt and there were kids there here age and there was no indication that there was a problem of any kind, so it was never made an issue," he said. "Looking back, knowing what I do today, it would have been a lot different."
http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8580434
I was wrong too. I was giving him the benefit of doubt because Brooke didn't live with him.
It's really sickening.
RR0004
07-01-2008, 01:40 AM
Except RR...the girl claims to have met the two men and possibly three. I would call that a "Ring". If she is telling the truth about the five years of sexual abuse, why would she make up the men?
This guy is sick enough to use whatever people he has in his little circle to try and intimidate her. "Hey, you see those guys over there...they're with me...and if you step out of line...they'll come and get you!"...stuff like that
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:40 AM
Oh, and I also wouldn't put it past this guy to be a part of an online "network" of peds in which he shares graphic details about his exploits. JMOI think distribution will probably come as one of the next charges when they are through ripping this guy's house and life to shreds.
RR0004
07-01-2008, 01:41 AM
G-d knows what kind of torture and mind games this creep inflicted on this poor girl!
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:42 AM
I was trying to be patient, which I'm not good at. lol, I figured it would at least be up after the 11pm news. But.....nooooooo.Since when do we have time to be patient here?! It has never been one of our best virtues, Suzi. :blowkiss:
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 01:43 AM
I think distribution will probably come as one of the next charges when they are through ripping this guy's house and life to shreds.
Have you ever noticed that guys like him are usually busted by their need to share their pics and videos way before any victims come forward? They really are good at scaring their vics into shutting up.
Carrington
07-01-2008, 01:43 AM
Public execution of child molesters on first offense.
I am completely serious. Anyone who would molest a child is a broken, defective human being, and there is no point in keeping them around.
Well, I can't really think of one point....
Can anyone?
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 01:44 AM
Welcome, PI. I wondered about that myself.
Dearest SS,:blowkiss:
Sorry, I have to go back and fix my post. I was typing that out for everyone while the news was on here. That should be "A.R" (I think those are the right initals) stated in the affidavit that Jacque threatened the girl with going after her family members so that she would comply and not say anything to anyone. Not that Brooke's family was threatened. That was said during the live report on the livestream link. SuziQ posted the link for everyone on post 157. I just had to weed through all the posts to find the thing. I was had my local news on also. WPTZ.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
cheko1
07-01-2008, 01:45 AM
Welcome, PI. I wondered about that myself.
SS check your messages.........
DeterminedPI
07-01-2008, 01:45 AM
Thanks for the clarification DS
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:46 AM
I think the victim who came forward must have freaked out immediately when she learned that Brooke went missing thinking that she was the one who got her "throat cut". Since the abuse had stopped with her (we don't know why), she was most likely petrified she could be next. She was very brave to come forward with such detail and it sounds like she poured her heart out to them. Bravo, A.R.!
cheko1
07-01-2008, 01:47 AM
Dearest SS,:blowkiss:
Sorry, I have to go back and fix my post. I was typing that out for everyone while the news was on here. That should be "A.R" (I think those are the right initals) stated in the affidavit that Jacque threatened the girl with going after her family members so that she would comply and not say anything to anyone. Not that Brooke's family was threatened. That was said during the live report on the livestream link. SuziQ posted the link for everyone on post 157. I just had to weed through all the posts to find the thing. I was had my local news on also. WPTZ.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
Thanks DS for amending that.....!!! :blowkiss:
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:48 AM
No worries, Dark! It is difficult to catch every detail when you are reporting live re-caps. :) Thanks for letting us know.
cheko1
07-01-2008, 01:49 AM
I think the victim who came forward must have freaked out immediately when she learned that Brooke went missing thinking that she was the one who got her "throat cut". Since the abuse had stopped with her (we don't know why), she was most likely petrified she could be next. She was very brave to come forward with such detail and it sounds like she poured her heart out to them. Bravo, A.R.!
I think thats what happened to SS.......
Poor girl must of been scared to death!
Taximom
07-01-2008, 01:49 AM
This reminds me of a case where the kidnapped girl is made to sign some type of "slavery" contract and is held captive, raped, tortured etc. I can't remember the name right now. There were (and probably still are) internet groups with instructions on how to do this, with copies of contracts etc.
UGH, I feel so sorry for A.R. and any others that were subjected to this hell.
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 01:51 AM
No worries, Dark! It is difficult to catch every detail when you are reporting live re-caps. :) Thanks for letting us know.
My dearest SS,:blowkiss:
I appreciate it. I am a pecker when I type and it is hard when I am listening live.. LOL.
Love and Respect for you,
dark_shadows
SuziQ
07-01-2008, 01:51 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0806/30/ng.01.html
NANCY GRACE
Vermont Police Shift Focus to Missing 12-Year-Old`s Uncle
Aired June 30, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. (more at link)
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 01:54 AM
Thanks, Suzi!
Taximom~ Spazkat brought that up earlier. She mentioned Colleen Stan's case in California. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Hooker
Taximom
07-01-2008, 01:55 AM
Thanks, Suzi!
Taximom~ Spazkat brought that up earlier. She mentioned Colleen Stan's case in California. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Hooker
I'm always behind! Thanks for that link. I don't remember the name, but that's probably her. Anyway, there's just too many sicko's out there. I'm with Adnoid. Execute them. I'd even be happy with them in prison for life though.
philamena
07-01-2008, 02:00 AM
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/16748833/detail.html
Uncle's property being checked out.
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 02:01 AM
This is the press conference;
http://www.dps.state.vt.us/vtsp/press/press_063008c_royalton.html
Also this;
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080630/NEWS/981229953
press conference
Respectfully,
dark_shadows
philamena
07-01-2008, 02:02 AM
I have a dozen questions about this case. It's literally taken me two days to post about it. Another young girl, vanishing, last seen with a family member.
Another young girl vanishing after my space visits. :banghead:
I watched a short news clip about this case earlier and one LE officer said this case was definitely a my space case. Any confirmation about that?
Rhetorical questions:
Why was a 12 year alone with an uncle that her daddy really didn't know?
That just seems weird to me.
Has LE or the family found out who the 'Internet' person is that she was interested in meeting? Do you all think the myspace person is connected to the sex ring?
Why o why was she allowed to go off with her uncle?
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:14 AM
I have a dozen questions about this case.
Why was a 12 year alone with an uncle that her daddy really didn't know?
Has LE or the family found out who the 'internet' person is that she was interested in meeting?
Why o why was she allowed to go off with her uncle?Because the mother didn't see Uncle Creepy as a current threat. Obviously her sister felt he was reformed since he was allowed with their own two little girls and the mother let her guard down (which should never have happened).
If they have, they have not released that information. That being said...going over Brooke's computer is how this came back to Uncle Creepy...so it is possible it came from his computer address.
Why, indeed?! On NG, Robi Ludwig went off the deep end saying that the maternal grandfather was probably a molester (makes me dislike her even more), but the truth is...we don't know why the mother would allow it and we will never know what was going on in that family. (I think it was awful to drag the grandparent into it tho with no shred of evidence.)
LOL Sorry...you added "Rhetorical" after I answered them.
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 02:16 AM
The Times Argus updated their site and it states what WPTZ today did when I was updating today.
The alleged victim, identified only by her initials in court papers, said she was told two other girls were in the program and had met three men affiliated with it, too. She said the girls were graded based "on how you perform," said the sworn affidavit, which was filed at Vermont District Court for Orange County as Jacques was arraigned.
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080630/NEWS/391544518
WPTZ had more read from the affidavit.
Respectfully,
dark_shadows
philamena
07-01-2008, 02:18 AM
SeriouslySearching,
(((hugs))) Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.
If I'm lucky I'll catch the repeat of NG.
I am so sick about Brooke's disappearance.
This never stops....it seems child kidnappers and abusers come out of the woodwork.
cheko1
07-01-2008, 02:21 AM
Robi Ludwig should of kept her mouth shut about the Grandparents! The Grandmother called LE to report Brooke missing. Which brings up another issue why didn't the Mom call?
I can't imagine letting my granddaughters be around a RSO! I guarantee there would be 1 less RSO if he'd of been hanging around one of my GD.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:24 AM
If they have, they have not released that information. That being said...going over Brooke's computer is how this came back to Uncle Creepy...so it is possible it came from his computer address. On Monday, Baker said this: "As a result of information developed late Saturday and early Sunday, the focus of our investigation shifted drastically." He said it was during the weekend that the computer forensics probe "eliminated the whole world out there and narrowed our focus."
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080630/NEWS/391544518
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:26 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0806/30/ng.01.html
NANCY GRACE
Vermont Police Shift Focus to Missing 12-Year-Old`s Uncle
Aired June 30, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. (more at link)In case you missed it, Philamena~ Here you go! :blowkiss:
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:27 AM
Did anyone notice that he has rather one of those Chester Molester Mustaches in his mug shot?! I remember when we discussed this during the Chester Stiles' case and it caught my eye earlier today.
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 02:28 AM
G-d knows what kind of torture and mind games this creep inflicted on this poor girl!
My dearest RR, :blowkiss:
That was also said on the news tonight. The she was almost tortured I was flipping stations during the news and listening to the live feed, I will try to find something about that on their websites. It was stated in the affidavit. Give me a few ok.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
cheko1
07-01-2008, 02:29 AM
Did anyone notice that he has rather one of those Chester Molester Mustaches in his mug shot?! I remember when we discussed this during the Chester Stiles' case and it caught my eye earlier today.
SS I noticed it right away...thought it was just me seeing it.
Carrington
07-01-2008, 02:31 AM
Robi Ludwig should of kept her mouth shut about the Grandparents! The Grandmother called LE to report Brooke missing. Which brings up another issue why didn't the Mom call?
I can't imagine letting my granddaughters be around a RSO! I guarantee there would be 1 less RSO if he'd of been hanging around one of my GD.
I can't think of a reason why the mother didn't call BB friend's mother that she was meeting at a convience store, and get the facts about a visit to a hospital. Who was picking her up? Time of return to home, not store? Who would be going etc.....
12 years old, off to see the wizard?
Maybe I am just old fashioned, I would have never have gotten away with this road trip and neither would have my daughter.
IMO
cheko1
07-01-2008, 02:39 AM
I can't think of a reason why the mother didn't call BB friend's mother that she was meeting at a convience store, and get the facts about a visit to a hospital. Who was picking her up? Time of return to home, not store? Who would be going etc.....
12 years old, off to see the wizard?
Maybe I am just old fashioned, I would have never have gotten away with this road trip and neither would have my daughter.
IMO
Not that I'm knocking the Mom but seems to me the girl wasn't very well supervised. She was allowed at a RSO home & the family knew he was one. Once a RSO always a RSO.......just because he was married why would he change? 2 daughters gave access to 2 girls.She was allowed to travel with him / she had no means of escaping. Couldn't call for help, cell phone left at home. Where was his wife while he was doing all of this???
Didn't she have a clue????
RR0004
07-01-2008, 02:40 AM
On Monday, Baker said this: "As a result of information developed late Saturday and early Sunday, the focus of our investigation shifted drastically." He said it was during the weekend that the computer forensics probe "eliminated the whole world out there and narrowed our focus."
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080630/NEWS/391544518
Do you think they picked up the uncle's computer right from the start as Brooke was staying there the night before her disappearance? If that were the case...they've known for a while about the uncle's proclivities.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:40 AM
We are not sure the mother was aware of this "trip" to the hospital.
CarpeDiem
07-01-2008, 02:41 AM
Did anyone notice that he has rather one of those Chester Molester Mustaches in his mug shot?! I remember when we discussed this during the Chester Stiles' case and it caught my eye earlier today.
He keeps reminding me of Joseph Duncan.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:42 AM
Do you think they picked up the uncle's computer right from the start as Brooke was staying there the night before her disappearance? If that were the case...they've known for a while about the uncle's proclivities.They stated in the presser they knew about his past history from the beginning of the case. I would assume they did not have probably cause to get a warrant for his computer until they examined Brooke's. Even if Brooke had been staying there, I don't see them being allowed a warrant on that alone and MJ would never have offered it up to them without one, imo.
RR0004
07-01-2008, 02:43 AM
And we have no idea if the child who came forward is related to Brooke, right? I know someone speculated about the girl's initials- but they never did say a relation IIRC.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:44 AM
He keeps reminding me of Joseph Duncan.Yes and he looks a little like Chester Stiles...in a way. (That wormy, skinny, and slimey way.)
RR0004
07-01-2008, 02:45 AM
They stated in the presser they knew about his past history from the beginning of the case. I would assume they did not have probably cause to get a warrant for his computer until they examined Brooke's. Even if Brooke had been staying there, I don't see them being allowed a warrant on that alone and MJ would never have offered it up to them without one, imo.
Probably right...just don't know how smart this guy is.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:45 AM
And we have no idea if the child who came forward is related to Brooke, right? I know someone speculated about the girl's initials- but they never did say a relation IIRC.I was mistaken according to the one article. It was confirmed to be a relative of MJ's.
dark_shadows
07-01-2008, 02:47 AM
G-d knows what kind of torture and mind games this creep inflicted on this poor girl!
My dearest RR, :blowkiss:
That was also said on the news tonight. The she was almost tortured I was flipping stations during the news and listening to the live feed, I will try to find something about that on their websites. It was stated in the affidavit. Give me a few ok.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
My dearest RR,:blowkiss:
That was quicker than I thought. I am past my sleep time.
The words are from the script of the 6 p.m. news. Here is one place where it says it.
http://tv3.wcax.com/n/mon6p.htm
convinced a young relative that she was part of an underground sex program call "Breckenridge" and repeatedly assaulted her over the last five years. Papers also state that Jacques told the girl that he would cut her throat if she did not go along with the program. But, at this time, we do NOT know if Brooke Bennett was a victim of the same program.
2} JACQUES_PKG ((Nats: Michael did you have anything to do with the disappearance of Brook Bennett?)) 42-year-old Michael Jacques did not comment to press as he was lead into Orange County District Court. Jacques-- who is the Uncle of Brooke Bennett and the last person to have contact with her before she disappeared-- was arrested Sunday for Aggravated Sexual Assault on a Minor. According to police, Jacques sexually assaulted a DIFFERENT relative over a 5 year period of time. ((Will Porter: Orange County State's Attorney: "she has provided details of the events including different sexual acts that started when she was 9-years-old and continued up until a few weeks ago.")) and this is Jacques second charge of this type. He was convicted 15 years of kidnapping and sexual assault // underwent sex offender treatment .. and had been listed as a sex offender on the state registry. Family of Brooke Bennett was on hand for the arraignment. However, they said little about either case. ((Storm Woodard/Great Uncle: "Brooke's mom is my niece, and that is my niece I was sitting with up there. They are sisters. This is not doing a good thing for my family. That is about all I have to say.")) ((nats: "do you folks want to comment on today's charges")) Jacques' wife Denise left the court without comment all together. (house) Meanwhile, state police had been scouring the home of Michael Jacques for most of the day. But, police maintained before the court case that Monday's charge against Jacques is separate from the Brooke Bennett case. The criminal charge could land Jacques behind bars for the rest of his life. ((Porter: "maximum penalty is life imprisonment. Question: An just to clarify...today's charge has nothing to do with the disappearance of Brooke Bennett? Answer: For all information on Brooke Bennett I would rely on any of the press releases issued by the state police and other and other law enforcement agencies."))
3} JACQUES_TAG he said nothing in court, but his lawyer entered a plea of not guilty to the charge, and he's being held for lack of 250 thousand dollars. Marselis Adam any details of this breckenridge program...? Yes in the police affidvait it says the victim was told the president of the united states had selected her for this sex program. The president assigns a trainer.. and her trainer would be Michael Jacques. And then she was abused .. almost tortured.. on a weekly basis in many different ways for the next five years. She testified she had met three men as part of breckenridge .. who had told her what types of sexual activity she needed to work on to graduate. Marselis. Thank you Adam.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:49 AM
Probably right...just don't know how smart this guy is.When it comes to staying away from LE...I bet being in jail made him smarter as far as "due process" and what they can do. He is smart enough to have avoided the other girl telling for five years. He would not be in jail right now if that girl had not come forward when she did. You can't underestimate a predator.
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 02:59 AM
I am mentally exhausted from trying to wrap my head around all of the new developments in this case in some way. Everytime I read something else, I get a worse mental picture of where Brooke could be.
Amster
07-01-2008, 03:01 AM
Boy, was I wrong! James Bennett did know.
News of Jacques' possible involvement with his daughter's disappearance came as a surprise to James Bennett. Brooke's father says he knew about Jacques' past conviction on kidnapping and sexual assault and had brought it up as an issue with Brooke's mother.
"It wasn't made a big deal. He was married to Brooke's aunt and there were kids there here age and there was no indication that there was a problem of any kind, so it was never made an issue," he said. "Looking back, knowing what I do today, it would have been a lot different."
http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8580434
This makes me seriously angry. Never made an issue!! NEVER MADE AN ISSUE?? Brooke was on her own....Bless her heart.
i.b.nora
07-01-2008, 03:05 AM
"The alleged victim of the sex assaults, a relative of Jacques, told police Jacques assaulted her during a five-year period, ..."
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080630/NEWS/391544518
Carrington
07-01-2008, 03:05 AM
This makes me seriously angry. Never made an issue!! NEVER MADE AN ISSUE?? Brooke was on her own....Bless her heart.
Seems MJ was allowed to run two households.
:eek:
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 03:13 AM
"The alleged victim of the sex assaults, a relative of Jacques, told police Jacques assaulted her during a five-year period, ..."
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080630/NEWS/391544518Oh, you are right! Sorry! I will go change that post. I guess I am tired and making stupid mistakes now. :bang: (I could have sworn I read it somewhere tho.)
Amster
07-01-2008, 03:19 AM
Seems MJ was allowed to run two households.
:eek:
Pathetic, isn't it? NG said she has the statement from A.R. and there are things in it that she can't say on the air.....
I don't think I want to hear another word from Jim Bennet or Cassandra. Or, Denise! :mad:
(I don't think Denise has said anything, yet, but I don't want to hear it!)
SeriouslySearching
07-01-2008, 03:19 AM
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