Brooke Bennett, 12 yrs. old Randolph, VT #3

[SeriouslySearching]

NOt to get off topic, but my stepdaughter was 16 years old. So, as we can see the age varies; and 14 is definitely not "too old."I stand corrected! I had no idea as everyone I know that waited were of a concern for the Gyn because of the late onset.

[christine2448]

Here is another link to MJ's arrest affidavit:

http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

Gagnon, were was he arrested again? And is it Raymond? LOL

[CarpeDiem]

NOt to get off topic, but my stepdaughter was 16 years old. So, as we can see the age varies; and 14 is definitely not "too old."

I agree. My own daughter is an athlete and trains year round, that is also said to delay it, seems to have in her case too.

[SailorMoon]

You can't rule it out though. It could very well be the reason he stopped all of a sudden a few weeks ago.

Maybe there was/is a pregnancy scare??

[christine2448]

Is this him??


Name
GAGNON,RAYMOND A Birth Date
Mar 19 1966Sex
MRace
Caucasian Alias Name
Address
2130 S 6th ST,Milwaukee,WI 53215-2741 Address Update
8/21/2002 Case No.
2002CF004767Case Type
CFCase Status
Closed Filing Date
8/21/2002 County Name
Milwaukee Fingerprint ID
Charge No.
1 Status Cite
941.29(2) Charge Descr.
Possession of Firearm by Felon Severity
Felony E Offense Date
8/18/2002 Plea Descr.
Guilty Plea Date
3/4/2003 Charge Modifier Statue Cite
Charge Modifier Statue Descr.
Finding Date
3/4/2003 Action
Guilty / No Contest Court Official
Manian,Victor, Sentence Date
3/24/2003 Sentence Descr.
State Prison Sentence Time
24 Months Begin Date
Sentence Condition

[Busylady]

MJ is married to Denise
Denise is Cassandras sister
Cassandra is Brookes mother
RG is Cassandras ex husband and brookes stepfather
AR is MJ stepdaughter and Denises daughter.

Are MJ and RG related? I mean, how would they know each other? I am trying to get this straight in my mind. How did police find this girl, AR? I know that MJ is her stepfather. Did police go to her and question her because MJ is the one who dropped off BB? Is MJ the (step) uncle to BB? If so, I bet that he was either molesting her or setting her up to be molested. Since AR said that you would be killed (throat slashed) if you were the second girl to participate, perhaps, BB was murdered because she refused to participate.

It is quite strange that MJ supposedly dropped off BB. Are police thinking that he really didn't drop her off and instead went somewhere else with her. Wasn't MJ the one that supposedly found some of her belongings??

[SailorMoon]

Well, not to get onto "Denise" too hard, but the things she found on page 3 of this would have made me suspicous. Very suspicous.

Here is another link to MJ's arrest affidavit:

http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

[SuziQ]

Whoa, on page three at this link is Denise's statement. Discuss away!

http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

[christine2448]

GAGNON,RAYMOND A (http://javascript<b></b>:credit_details("/members/country/US/US_pd_detail.php?do=resultdetail&db=WIAOC&rec=1228796&ed=17&dlnumber=CASHFL001&dlstate=CORP&id=7A798CB86610C3E34C99188B2CF820C8")) Mar 19 1966Wisconsin Criminal CourtsGAGNON,RAYMOND A (http://javascript<b></b>:credit_details("/members/country/US/US_pd_detail.php?do=resultdetail&db=WIAOC&rec=1228798&ed=17&dlnumber=CASHFL001&dlstate=CORP&id=7A798CB86610C3E34C99188B2CF820C8")) Mar 19 1966Wisconsin Criminal CourtsGAGNON,RAYMOND A (http://javascript<b></b>:credit_details("/members/country/US/US_pd_detail.php?do=resultdetail&db=WIAOC&rec=1228797&ed=17&dlnumber=CASHFL001&dlstate=CORP&id=7A798CB86610C3E34C99188B2CF820C8")) Mar 19 1966Wisconsin Criminal CourtsGAGNON,RAYMOND A (http://javascript<b></b>:credit_details("/members/country/US/US_pd_detail.php?do=resultdetail&db=WIAOC&rec=1228794&ed=17&dlnumber=CASHFL001&dlstate=CORP&id=7A798CB86610C3E34C99188B2CF820C8")) Mar 19 1966Wisconsin Criminal CourtsGAGNON,RAYMOND A (http://javascript<b></b>:credit_details("/members/country/US/US_pd_detail.php?do=resultdetail&db=WIAOC&rec=1228793&ed=17&dlnumber=CASHFL001&dlstate=CORP&id=7A798CB86610C3E34C99188B2CF820C8")) Mar 19 1966Wisconsin Criminal CourtsGAGNON,RAYMOND A (http://javascript<b></b>:credit_details("/members/country/US/US_pd_detail.php?do=resultdetail&db=WIAOC&rec=1228795&ed=17&dlnumber=CASHFL001&dlstate=CORP&id=7A798CB86610C3E34C99188B2CF820C8")) Mar 19 1966Wisconsin Criminal Courts

This is all my database is pulling up on that name under nationwide criminal search.

[SeriouslySearching]

Here is another link to MJ's arrest affidavit:

http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdfThat reads like a bad dream, doesn't it? GRRRRR! Denise HAD to have known and chose to do absolutely NOTHING. She should be next on the arrest list.

[SuziQ]

Gagnon, were was he arrested again? And is it Raymond? LOL


Raymond A. Gagnon was arrested in Vermont. Was he in town when Brooke went missing? Scary thought.

[SailorMoon]

Well-- could be but read page 3 of the arrest affidavit a couple of posts before this and that would raise big ole honkin red flags to me. Big ones.

Not to make excuses, but the Mother and Aunt could of both been victims themselves. It's very common for woman like that to end up with a pedophile. These men are preditors and very good at finding their vicitms. Single mother's with children, etc.

[Amster]

Here is another link to MJ's arrest affidavit:

http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

OMGosh....Denise is not that stupid! Is she?? :furious:

She KNEW what was happening. I hope they arrest her.

[galvino]

Sailor- It would have made me more than suspicious0 it would have scared the carp out of me and set off alarm bells that would not stop ringing!

[SuziQ]

That reads like a bad dream, doesn't it? GRRRRR! Denise HAD to have known.

She knew. I don't care what excuse these women use. It's against the law to turn your head, play dumb and not protect your children.

[SailorMoon]

If I found my daughter wrapped in a towel, saying she was taking a shower, porno dvd in my bedroom, ky jelly that I didn't use and all this happened when I came home early from work one day..........HUH HUH. What the heck is with these women???

[Busylady]

I do not think it is the same Ray is 40 yrs of age so the 1966 dob would not match

The Vermont State Police have arrested Ray A. Gagnon (age 40) of San Antonio, Texas for Aggravated Sexual Assault on a minor.

[quote=christine2448;2341125]Is this him??

snip

Name
GAGNON,RAYMOND A Birth Date
Mar 19 1966Sex
MRace

[FourWands]

Why was his arraignment canceled???

[SeriouslySearching]

Why was his arraignment canceled???I don't know! Interesting.

[close_enough]

oh my goodness!....another thread, & i'm totally lost now...what's this about Raymond Gagnon?????.....i did a search on that name the other night, but when this Jacques name came up, i stopped my search....would someone be kind enough to give me a brief update as to what's up now??????

[CarpeDiem]

If I found my daughter wrapped in a towel, saying she was taking a shower, porno dvd in my bedroom, ky jelly that I didn't use and all this happened when I came home early from work one day..........HUH HUH. What the heck is with these women???

After reading that document, I think I'm moving over to SuziQ's side on this too. I gave her every benefit of the doubt, but there is now no doubt. :(

[cheko1]

I can see this case has just gotten increasingly more complicated. SuziQ~ We have our answer as to why the mother wouldn't want the family in the news, don't we?!


Without a doubt SS.......
What a awful mess & it could of all been prevented!!!!

[CarpeDiem]

Why was his arraignment canceled???

Hopefully because he is taking them to her.

[SailorMoon]

Here's what gets me. Those are only a couple of little statements that Denise said probably because she knew she had to say something. I'm sure there were lots more incidents and lots more ODD things. She needs to be slapped first. Then arrested.

[SuziQ]

Why was his arraignment canceled???

He decided to talk?

[angelmom]

I'm sorry, but I think parents are stupid when they believe their kid who says they are holding cigarettes or alcohol for a friend.

Who would hold a friend's dildo????

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Denise was being willfully ignorant, IMHO.

[SeriouslySearching]

If I found my daughter wrapped in a towel, saying she was taking a shower, porno dvd in my bedroom, ky jelly that I didn't use and all this happened when I came home early from work one day..........HUH HUH. What the heck is with these women???Denial won't work for Denise. She has already stated that she knew and it will come back on her. We don't know how much Cassandra really knew or suspected...but sisters talk. :furious:

[close_enough]

If I found my daughter wrapped in a towel, saying she was taking a shower, porno dvd in my bedroom, ky jelly that I didn't use and all this happened when I came home early from work one day..........HUH HUH. What the heck is with these women???

:eek:....huh?????....has Brooke been found???

[SuziQ]

http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/NEWS/879828529

An arraignment scheduled for 1 p.m. today in a White River Junction courtroom for Roy Gagnon, the San Antonio man charged with aggravated sexual assault on a minor in connection with an alleged internet sex ring, was canceled.

It was not immediately clear why the court proceeding had been canceled. The Times Argus will have more on this story. (more at link)

[Busylady]

After reading that statement I do not even know what to say. This mother knew and did nothing to protect these children. The kids need to removed and into some counseling ASAP as far as I am concerned.

[SeriouslySearching]

He decided to talk?Maybe. However, I would think they would still have to formally charge him with an arraignment. I wonder if the charges are changing instead? Is there anything on the search front we haven't heard yet?

[fran]

oh my goodness!....another thread, & i'm totally lost now...what's this about Raymond Gagnon?????.....i did a search on that name the other night, but when this Jacques name came up, i stopped my search....would someone be kind enough to give me a brief update as to what's up now??????

Brooke's stepfather, Ray Gagnon has been arrested on the same charges as her uncle. He was to be arraigned at 1, but it's been postponed.

HTH
fran

[close_enough]

HEY CP!!!!!....if by some chance you read this, please pm me & get me up to speed ok????.....lost as an easter egg here!!

[fran]

Maybe. However, I would think they would still have to formally charge him with an arraignment. I wonder if the charges are changing instead? Is there anything on the search front we haven't heard yet?

Bet both the perps are squeeling on the other as we type.:rolleyes:

JMHO
fran

[SuziQ]

Maybe. However, I would think they would still have to formally charge him with an arraignment. I wonder if the charges are changing instead? Is there anything on the search front we haven't heard yet?

Nothing about the search status that I am seeing.

[SeriouslySearching]

Everyone already answered that one for Close.

It could also be court related as to why it could be cancelled. I wish they would release some reason tho.
Maybe the Court Appointed Atty had a conflict or something along those lines.

NEW VT SEARCH VIDEO COMING SOON ON FOX!

[close_enough]

Brooke's stepfather, Ray Gagnon has been arrested on the same charges as her uncle. He was to be arraigned at 1, but it's been postponed.

HTH
fran

thank you, thank you, thank you, FRAN!!...you're a doll......ok, this IS all about a sex ring then....this is the same man's (ray gagnon) family that Brooke was suppose to have been going to visit......

[SuziQ]

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/NEWS01/80630028&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

An arraignment was planned to be held at 1 p.m. in Vermont District Court in White River Junction, but moments ago, federal jurisdicition was invoked, and the arraignment now will take place in federal court. That arraignment's time and location has yet to be scheduled. State police have scheduled a press conference at 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel.

[close_enough]

gosh, i sure wish we knew where BROOKE is!!!!!

[SailorMoon]

:eek:....huh?????....has Brooke been found???

No, no, no!! This comes from Jacques affidavit -- this would be his daugher.

[SuziQ]

Oh boy, some people are going to be in deep doo doo.

[Vegas Bride]

What I want to know is who is the third man? In the affidavit the female victim says she met with 3 men, 2 have now been arrested but who can the 3rd one be? Can he be holding Brooke right now?

I agree, the mother of the victim had to have known her daughter was being abused, she chose to ignore it :(

VB

[close_enough]

I'm sorry, but I think parents are stupid when they believe their kid who says they are holding cigarettes or alcohol for a friend.

Who would hold a friend's dildo????

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Denise was being willfully ignorant, IMHO.

one more question.....who is Denise???

[Carrington]

Denial won't work for Denise. She has already stated that she knew and it will come back on her. We don't know how much Cassandra really knew or suspected...but sisters talk. :furious:

Both of them showed up for MJ's bail hearing, showed support in my book.
:mad:

[fran]

I don't know why they didn't make it federal charges to begin with. He crossed state lines to commit a crime.:mad:

JMHO
fran

[angelmom]

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/NEWS01/80630028&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

An arraignment was planned to be held at 1 p.m. in Vermont District Court in White River Junction, but moments ago, federal jurisdicition was invoked, and the arraignment now will take place in federal court. That arraignment's time and location has yet to be scheduled. State police have scheduled a press conference at 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel.

Federal Jurisdiction.

Do you think it involves multiple states? What do you think triggered this?

[close_enough]

No, no, no!! This comes from Jacques affidavit -- this would be his daugher.


ok, thanks SM for setting me straight...i'll try to sift thru the rest now....you folks have been awfully nice to get me up on the sitch!.....:)

[christine2448]

Raymond A. Gagnon was arrested in Vermont. Was he in town when Brooke went missing? Scary thought.

Thanks Suzi.

[SeriouslySearching]

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/NEWS01/80630028&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

An arraignment was planned to be held at 1 p.m. in Vermont District Court in White River Junction, but moments ago, federal jurisdicition was invoked, and the arraignment now will take place in federal court. That arraignment's time and location has yet to be scheduled. State police have scheduled a press conference at 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel.WTH? MJ was arraigned in Orange County District Court...so why not Ray?!

Could this mean it is because things were done on the internet and/or he took the girl across state lines at some point?

[close_enough]

Federal Jurisdiction.

Do you think it involves multiple states? What do you think triggered this?

what probably triggered this was Michael Jacques arrest record, since he was last seen with Brooke, then one thing led to another....kudos to LE there in VT!!!!

jmo

[Busylady]

Denise is MJ's husband and Brookes mothers sister.

one more question.....who is Denise???

[Busylady]

Thats what I am thinking something to do with across state lines.

WTH? MJ was arraigned in Orange County District Court...so why not Ray?!

Could this mean it is because things were done on the internet and/or he took the girl across state lines at some point?

[SuziQ]

I think images were being traded over the internet and kids being transported back and forth from Vermont to Texas for illegal sex. That's why there is fed charges. And I wouldn't be surprised that Ray is charged today as well.

[oceanblueeyes]

Federal Jurisdiction.

Do you think it involves multiple states? What do you think triggered this?

I think the Feds are taking over because it is illegal internet activity that are crimes against children in this case.

I am glad, they should try MJ through them too.

imoo

[swanniee11]

I thought I could not get more mad then I was last night. I'm so sick and ticked off now I can barely type. These kids need to removed NOW. AR's mother saw these things in her daughters room,child porn on the computer and knew her husband was a RSO and she believed MJ? WT????

[cheko1]

"I don't KNOW the Uncle, SS, and I know no more than YOU!! So please hang in there with that, I just offered help to Brooke's Dad, honestly."

Who cares if you know more than the next person....anything anybody knows is crucial to finding this little girl and returning her to her family!

All the info coming in is great! But the facts remain little Brooke isn't found yet. I am heartsick with worry for this little gal. My prayers are going out for you Brooke......

[CarpeDiem]

what probably triggered this was Michael Jacques arrest record, since he was last seen with Brooke, then one thing led to another....kudos to LE there in VT!!!!

jmo

There was an internet connection too.

[Busylady]

Ok does this statement mean there are two different girls that we know about so far one that MJ sexually assaulted and one that Ray Gagnon sexually assaulted?


A statement released by police said the sexual assault by Ray A. Gagnon, 40 of San Antonio, involved a minor in Royalton in the summer of 2007. The victim was not Brooke, the statement said.

The arrest of Gagnon comes one day after Michael Jacques, 42 of Randolph was arraigned on an identical charge involving another minor and police disclosed they are investigating whether an alleged child sex ring named Breckenridge is involved.

[SuziQ]

http://www.dps.state.vt.us/vtsp/press/press_070108b_royalton.html

PRESS CONFERENCE
UPDATE ON MISSING BROOKE BENNETT
July 1, 2008
Contact: Sgt. Tara Thomas, Vermont State Police – Public Information Officer (802-234-9933)
The Vermont State Police will have a press conference to update the media in reference to the investigation over the weekend into the disappearance of 12 year-old Brooke Bennett of Braintree, VT. Brooke has been missing since June 25th, 2008 where she was last seen in Randolph, VT.
WHEN: Tuesday July 1, 2008 - 4:00 PM
WHERE: Whitcomb High School, Pleasant Street - VT Rt. 12, Bethel, VT

[SeriouslySearching]

Awww, the new photos of Brooke are beautiful. These must have come from Jim. There is one with her in a flowered straw hat leaning on her Dad. Very sweet. She looked happy with him and there was another with her pictured with two young boys. (I can only assume they are from her father's side.)

MJ's house is HUGE and relatively new. I guess money was coming in to this family from somewhere.

[Beyond Belief]

Just curious. Does Jacques employment support owning that nice home the media is showing?

[cheko1]

Click here to read the Michael Jacques affidavit (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11190771.PDF)
Part 2 of the Michael Jacques affidavit (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11190871.PDF)
Part 3 of the Michael Jacques affidavit (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11190971.PDF)


I hope someone gets ahold of this sorry azz SOB & puts him out of his misery!!!!

[SeriouslySearching]

Ok does this statement mean there are two different girls that we know about so far one that MJ sexually assaulted and one that Ray Gagnon sexually assaulted?


A statement released by police said the sexual assault by Ray A. Gagnon, 40 of San Antonio, involved a minor in Royalton in the summer of 2007. The victim was not Brooke, the statement said.

Good question. Are they two separate girls since the one they stated that MJ was arrested for was from Randolph, VT? Where is Royalton?

[SeriouslySearching]

Just curious. Does Jacques employment support owning that nice home the media is showing?To my knowledge, we haven't been told what that POS supposedly does for a living.

[gaia227]

What a betrayal of trust on Denises part. She is this girl's mother and she first married a man who was a RSO and let her daughter have extended, unsupervised contact with him and then after seeing what she saw she did not step in and save her daughter. She didn't do anything and left her daughter to deal with this abuse alone. Absolutely sickening.

[cheko1]

Is your head spinning like mine??:crazy:

Yes Christine my head is spinning & I'm just so very mad!!!!
To think anyone allowed girls to be around trash like that is beyond me!!!!

[SuziQ]

This is from the Houston Chronicle. I hope Texas media digs up some info on Ray.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5865873.html

(snip)
A San Antonio man has been arrested as part of a sexual assault investigation that grew out of the search for a 12-year-old girl who has been missing since June 25, Vermont State Police said Tuesday.

[SeriouslySearching]

Police said Gagnon's arrest was related to the Sunday arrest of Brooke's uncle, Michael Jacques, 42. He pleaded not guilty Monday to a charge of aggravated sexual assault against a girl, now 14, over a five-year period, ending last month.

"This arrest is a result of Gagnon sexually assaulting another minor in the Royalton, Vermont area during the summer of 2007," police said in a news release issued Tuesday morning.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5865873.html (Bolded by me)

To me, this indicates another victim and not the same girl as MJ is charged with.

[tamfish]

Page 3 of Jaques arrest affidavit states that A.R. would receive "calls and emails from Breckenridge" and that this correspondence would tell her what sexual acts she was to perform.

This is how they got Brooke. They were emailing her (thru a Myspace account or otherwise). This is why she was taken to the convenience store by Jaques and supposedly dropped off. She was on a "mission" for Breckenridge.

So she's either somewhere with a pedophile who belongs in this sick ring..... or more likely she's dead somewhere because she wised up and was going to tell the whole truth loud and clear.

I have faith that LE is looking at Jaques very closely, as he was the last person to see her before she went missing.

And I don't care what sort of abuse you've suffered or how you've been manipulated --- if, as a mother, you find evidence that your child is being molested, you take the kid and RUN. There is no excuse for this Denise woman's actions, in my book. She should be behind bars.

Just my opinion.

Edited to add: Right now I'm not feeling much different about Brooke's mom, either. I have a feeling she knew about her ex-husband's record and that her POS bro-in-law was a pedophile too, yet according to Brooke's dad it "wasn't an issue".

WTF is WRONG WITH PEOPLE??

[DM5632]

Ok, I am the poster from the in session boards that lives in Randolph and is aware of the families involved in this mess. I have been banned from IS because the Admin is on some power trip and didnt like what I had to say....So, that being said, I am JUST tuning today as I was away from TV & internet last night and I cannot beleive the twists this case has taken. The grandmother is not the one who first reported BB missing, a family friend did, then LE called back and spoke w/ the grandmother. The family friend is a woman that I know personally and heard this info directly from her, she insisted that they report her missing as it looked like the mom & grandma really werent concerned yet even thoiugh it had been 12 HOURS since they spoke to her last!!!. According to the friend, she actualy spoke w/ Jacques and he had access to BB Myspace passwords and log in names. He made her give it to him if she was going to be using his computer. Jacques is also the one that found her belongings at the Floating Bridge (not confirmed, but according to friend). The incident back in 93 is not the only involving him, he has had other charges but dont think he was ever convicted. This came from my daycare provider who used to babysit for him & his wife years ago.


Bdmama, this is such important information. That the mom & grandma really weren't concerned yet. God, where is Brooke?

[DM5632]

This is from the Houston Chronicle. I hope Texas media digs up some info on Ray.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5865873.html

(snip)
A San Antonio man has been arrested as part of a sexual assault investigation that grew out of the search for a 12-year-old girl who has been missing since June 25, Vermont State Police said Tuesday.
SuziQ I am at work and have to get going, but can you find Gagnon's arrest or court info from his last sex offense in Royalton for us? Blessings to you, sorry have to run.

[Beyond Belief]

ancestry.com picked up 3 other male names living at that bethel rd. in randolph center. would these be men who lived with jacques?

[SeriouslySearching]

They weren't concerned yet because it happened frequently is my guess. The girls were probably often gone with Uncle Creepy or stayed away as much as possible.

[SeriouslySearching]

ancestry.com picked up 3 other male names living at that bethel rd. in randolph center. would these be men who lived with jacques?Go ahead and put them up so we can find out who they are, BB. If you have ANY information which could be remotely related...let's check it out.

[Beyond Belief]

Go ahead and put them up so we can find out who they are, BB. If you have ANY information which could be remotely related...let's check it out.
ok brb

[swanniee11]

I'm sorry, but I think parents are stupid when they believe their kid who says they are holding cigarettes or alcohol for a friend.

Who would hold a friend's dildo????

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Denise was being willfully ignorant, IMHO.

Not to mention, lets take into consideration of how old AR was when she was caught with this. The mother didnt put 2 and 2 together to think where would a girl that age get one of these friend or not? Last I checked they didn't carry them at Toys R Us

[GoodAim]

I'm thinking that Brooke's posture in the convenience store, arms folded, protecting herself, resenting something, didn't have to do (soley) with anything that happened the night before, but.... what she knew she was scheduled and was being forced to next...

[SeriouslySearching]

IMO, A.R. stating she got phone calls and correspondence telling her what to do along with what she mentioned about being tied up on the futon in the computer room tells me that MJ was running a payperview site and men were on computers watching this all happen live then giving "instructions" on what was to be done to the girl or by the girl.

[swanniee11]

they should check survailance from earlier then when they walked in, I know I watch way to much tv but she went towards the back of the store,she could have gotten an email telling her about a note in the store, there could have been a note left there telling her where to go from Gagnon ( or another guy) she could have put it in her back pocket, she was looking around when she was at the register. Just throwing it out there since there were notes left for AR.

[Beyond Belief]

no females listed.
and i don't know what year this was, just public records.


1850 E Bethel Rd Randolph Center, Vt Living w/ Michael S Jacques.

Preston I. Young
Ronald A. Shanahan age 60
Kenneth J. Stenger

Also wondering if Jacques used St. Jacques. I sort of fell over that in People Finders.

Have to leave for work soon. Find out who those guys are, please.

[Busylady]

I believe 1850 E Bethel Rd is the rental property they own. 1820 E Bethel Rd is where MJ resides.

no females listed.
and i don't know what year this was, just public records.


1850 E Bethel Rd Randolph Center, Vt Living w/ Michael S Jacques.

Preston I. Young
Ronald A. Shanahan age 60
Kenneth J. Stenger

Also wondering if Jacques used St. Jacques. I sort of fell over that in People Finders.

Have to leave for work soon. Find out who those guys are, please.

[Beyond Belief]

hmm, might be nothing then.

[Busylady]

Good idea though when you plug in the 1820 address under Denise a

Robert Flanagan from New Hampshire pops up.

hmm, might be nothing then.

[GoodAim]

swanniie -- I guess I meant that Jacques might've brought her there for something he'd arranged for her and (either he or another man in the "group") was going to be picking her up some time later to do --- something she was familiar enough with from the past to assume the rejecting, displeased body language she did in the convenience store. I hadn't thought about her wandering around and finding a note or anything. I feel so, so sorry for these children.

[SuziQ]

http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/NEWS/211694891

(snip)
The Vermont U.S. Attorney's office says the second suspect in a child sex case has been arrested on federal charges and will appear in court Wednesday.

Vermont's First Assistant United States Attorney Paul Van de Graaf says 40-year-old Raymond Gagnon has been arrested on federal charges.

Van de Graaf says the charges against Gagnon have not yet been filed so he can't say what they are.

[SailorMoon]

Okay...my head is spinning. There will be more arrests and I repeat....Denise should be slapped, then arrested. She has other kids, is that correct?? Remove them or he/she. NOW. I'll bet poor Brooke's dad is just beside himself right now.

[Amster]

The next arrest should be Denise. What a pathetic excuse for a human being. Was she so desperate to hold on to her man that she sacrificed her little girl? YES!

[SuziQ]

Good idea though when you plug in the 1820 address under Denise a

Robert Flanagan from New Hampshire pops up.

Freak, I haven't checked any of the names for RSO in NH. I'm kinda swamped here on the home front and can't check.

[fran]

swanniie -- I guess I meant that Jacques might've brought her there for something he'd arranged for her and (either he or another man in the "group") was going to be picking her up some time later to do --- something she was familiar enough with from the past to assume the rejecting, displeased body language she did in the convenience store. I hadn't thought about her wandering around and finding a note or anything. I feel so, so sorry for these children.

Wasn't there a comment by someone who saw her at one of the other locations that day, say she was kind of quiet. Not her usual self?

I don't have a link but thought I saw that somewhere a few days ago.

JMHO
fran

[swanniee11]

swanniie -- I guess I meant that Jacques might've brought her there for something he'd arranged for her and (either he or another man in the "group") was going to be picking her up some time later to do --- something she was familiar enough with from the past to assume the rejecting, displeased body language she did in the convenience store. I hadn't thought about her wandering around and finding a note or anything. I feel so, so sorry for these children.



I feel so sorry for these kids as well. I was just going down that road for a second because they made it sound like a group, very secretive etc.

[GoodAim]

fran - yeah, i think it was a young guy, around her age who went to school with her and said that in an interview. She seemed a bit quiet.

[Amster]

When Brooke and the creep 1st enter the store, it looks like Brooke is putting up her hair. I think they go towards the back so the creep can get coffee.

[Beyond Belief]

CULLMAN, AL
RANDOLPH, VT
BLOOMINGDALE, GA
BLUE SPRINGS, MS
CARIBOU, ME

GAGNON, RAYMOND A (Age 40)
(http://www.peoplefinders.com/order.asp?1=RAYMOND;;A;;GAGNON;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;27 833753;;&2=name&3=people&4=4&5=;;;;gagnon;;bloomingdale;;GA;;;;;;;;&rc=5)

Cities connected to Gagnon, if I got the right guy.
According to People Finders.

Sorry for the throwing this in here, but have to leave.

[Cheri_G]

I'm sorry, but I think parents are stupid when they believe their kid who says they are holding cigarettes or alcohol for a friend.

Who would hold a friend's dildo????

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Denise was being willfully ignorant, IMHO.

That was my impression as well. I called DCF about this. I think the children need to be checked on. I think anyone who can miss/ignore such obvious warning signs may not be taking proper care of their children even now.

[fran]

fran - yeah, i think it was a young guy, around her age who went to school with her and said that in an interview. She seemed a bit quiet.

Thanks GA.........that would fit with what MAY have been going on, IMO.

fran

[SeriouslySearching]

hmm, might be nothing then.I disagree. A rental property that he could access next door would be a perfect set up for his child sex ring operation and the people that lived in that house need to be checked out extensively, imo.

[Beyond Belief]

I disagree. A rental property that he could access next door would be a perfect set up for his child sex ring operation and the people that lived in that house need to be checked out extensively, imo.
none of them were listed on the SO list for Vt.
Gotta to go. :)

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, BB! Of course, it doesn't mean they didn't come from other places. He would have access to the house where others would not if he were renting to "clients".

[Beyond Belief]

Thanks, BB! Of course, it doesn't mean they didn't come from other places. He would have access to the house where others would not if he were renting to "clients".
You may want to investigate those other towns for Gagnon and see if there's missing kids, etc. in those areas. Talk to you tonight. Solve this mess, SS.

[mercibeaucoup]

Hello everyone,

I've been reading these forums for a few days now, pure speculation but here's what I think happened:

1) I think maybe the Uncle knows something about where Brooke was going/currently is - but is not directly involved.
2) I think when Brooke first came up missing, he realized due to his background and last seeing Brooke he would be the prime suspect, so to throw the police off the trail and/or make himself look innocent, he planted Brooke's clothing by the floating bridge. She spent the night at his house, he could easily have access to extra clothes.
3) This means maybe Brooke is still alive and lost/kidnapped/hiding somewhere, but where? with whom?

[Class-z]

http://www.dps.state.vt.us/vtsp/press/press_070108b_royalton.html

PRESS CONFERENCE
UPDATE ON MISSING BROOKE BENNETT
July 1, 2008
Contact: Sgt. Tara Thomas, Vermont State Police – Public Information Officer (802-234-9933)
The Vermont State Police will have a press conference to update the media in reference to the investigation over the weekend into the disappearance of 12 year-old Brooke Bennett of Braintree, VT. Brooke has been missing since June 25th, 2008 where she was last seen in Randolph, VT.
WHEN: Tuesday July 1, 2008 - 4:00 PM
WHERE: Whitcomb High School, Pleasant Street - VT Rt. 12, Bethel, VT

And I hope this time, the mother doesn't get her wish for the family dynamics not to be released, she doens't need to be protecting anyone, herself, her sister none of them. The only ones that count now are the innocent children and her daughter. Argh! I'm spitting mad

[SuziQ]

Merci, welcome to WS!

CheriG, way to go!

[CarpeDiem]

And I hope this time, the mother doesn't get her wish for the family dynamics not to be released, she doens't need to be protecting anyone, herself, her sister none of them. The only ones that count now are the innocent children and her daughter. Argh! I'm spitting mad

As long as she is sharing with LE, it seems she is being extremely honest now with them. I hope it's not too little, too late.

[cheko1]

That was my impression as well. I called DCF about this. I think the children need to be checked on. I think anyone who can miss/ignore such obvious warning signs may not be taking proper care of their children even now.

Good job Cheri for calling DCF.....she needs the kids taken away ASAP before anymore damage can be done to them. She sounds like the type of woman who will stand by her man at any cost!

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome to WS, Merci! Anything is possible at this point as to where Brooke could be.

With other men being involved in such a sex operation, it puts Brooke in a position of being with any of them, in my opinion. Or they could have decided she was a "loose cannon" and decided to shut her up.

I believe that Uncle Creepy and his brother know basically what has happened to Brooke. I also believe they are responsible for it. However, if they left her for another man to abduct...they may not know the outcome.

[cheko1]

Hello everyone,

I've been reading these forums for a few days now, pure speculation but here's what I think happened:

1) I think maybe the Uncle knows something about where Brooke was going/currently is - but is not directly involved.
2) I think when Brooke first came up missing, he realized due to his background and last seeing Brooke he would be the prime suspect, so to throw the police off the trail and/or make himself look innocent, he planted Brooke's clothing by the floating bridge. She spent the night at his house, he could easily have access to extra clothes.
3) This means maybe Brooke is still alive and lost/kidnapped/hiding somewhere, but where? with whom?

Welcome to WS merci & any others who I may of missed.....

[SuziQ]

I doubt we'll get a peek at any federal documents.

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8584106&nav=menu183_6_4_4

(snip)
Gagnon was arrested in Vermont by the FBI. Authorities will not say when or where that arrested occured. He is being held pending a court appearance Wednesday in federal court in Burlington. Charges against him will be made public at that time.

[Class-z]

The next arrest should be Denise. What a pathetic excuse for a human being. Was she so desperate to hold on to her man that she sacrificed her little girl? YES!

Yeah, remember the attorney wanting bail for the perp so he could work cause his family depended on him?

I said a few days ago, follow the money, where did an ex con get money enough to buy property in so few years, plus a rental property?

Denise didn't want to loose her security

[SeriouslySearching]

As long as she is sharing with LE, it seems she is being extremely honest now with them. I hope it's not too little, too late.It is ALREADY too little too late! Look at what that POS husband put her child or children through for five years!! So she doesn't come clean until a girl is gone before she comes forward to help her child/children and her niece?! She can be as extremely honest as she wants now...but it will never excuse the fact she waited and left them in that position for all those years. :furious:

[cheko1]

So much is happening in this case today I want to sit glued to my puter & not miss a thing. But have 4 grandkids today so impossible......I'm outta here.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yeah, remember the attorney wanting bail for the perp so he could work cause his family depended on him?

I said a few days ago, follow the money, where did an ex con get money enough to buy property in so few years, plus a rental property?

Denise didn't want to lose her securityYou are right! She didn't want to lose her nice house and her lifestyle even if it meant pimping out her children! :furious: I will not be surprised if she isn't a part of everything going on.

[SuziQ]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,374368,00.html

Brooke Bennett's stepfather Ray A. Gagnon, 40, was in federal custody Tuesday on a charge of aggravated sexual assault on a minor, according to Vermont State Police.

[Cheri_G]

Good job Cheri for calling DCF.....she needs the kids taken away ASAP before anymore damage can be done to them. She sounds like the type of woman who will stand by her man at any cost!

I had the same thought about the kids being removed from the home. At the very least I hope DCF will be paying the home some visits.

[SeriouslySearching]

Why aren't we getting the mug shots of this POS?

[SeriouslySearching]

I had the same thought about the kids being removed from the home. At the very least I hope DCF will be paying the home some visits.DCF should have acted as soon as it was written on the page of the affidavit. Any children in direct contact with these men should be removed and interviewed immediately, imo.

I have to get ready for work and get out of here! Keep us posted!

[athy]

some women are so "needing" a male in their life that they're willing to believe anything one says to them and to turn a blind eye to what normal women would feel in their gut isn't right. i knew one like this who ended up marrying a guy that was/is a RSO. i dated him a couple times until i found out myself...she started dating him after i dropped him. then she came crying to me how she found an email to him from a 14 year old. i told her i'd call the LE and report it while he was at work and let them pick up his pc and him. instead she ignored me and later married him. a few months later another phone call crying this time it was another email and even worse (won't go into that). she also had a 13 year old tell her she might as well move over because he was going to marry her. i wanted to report him since she wouldn't but since they were in another state and i was his ex i thought they might (he and his wife) would pull the i'm just the scorned ex deal. also i guess technically the only info i had was hearsay. i finally had to stop all connection with them. i know he kept telling her how his actions were just misunderstood when he was arrested the first time and he only pleaded guilty to save the child from having to go to court...yeah right if i'm innocent i'm going to plead guilty NOT!! he also was very involved in their church and so well thought of and swore he had changed....rolls eyes. makes you really want to smack these women upside the head and say GET A CLUE!!

[close_enough]

So much is happening in this case today I want to sit glued to my puter & not miss a thing. But have 4 grandkids today so impossible......I'm outta here.

no grandkids here to look after, but i do have some errands to run....my goodness, this case has gotten so twisted, i can't make heads nor tails of what's really going on, per these threads/posts.....i would think Greta will have the lo-down tonight at 9 pm central.....yall don't forget to watch CBS at 8 pm central!!!.....Tara Grinstead & Jennifer Keese's cases will be discussed......

[joga]

newbie here, just wanted to say hi to everyone. :) i'm obviously hoping for Brooke's safe return along with everyone here! this situation just keeps making my jaw drop.

[jnodrog]

CULLMAN, AL
RANDOLPH, VT
BLOOMINGDALE, GA
BLUE SPRINGS, MS
CARIBOU, ME

GAGNON, RAYMOND A (Age 40)
(http://www.peoplefinders.com/order.asp?1=RAYMOND;;A;;GAGNON;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;27 833753;;&2=name&3=people&4=4&5=;;;;gagnon;;bloomingdale;;GA;;;;;;;;&rc=5)

Cities connected to Gagnon, if I got the right guy.
According to People Finders.

Sorry for the throwing this in here, but have to leave.
I would assume thats him, and one of those myspace profiles i definetely remember seeing, said something like Cullman, Egypt???

Allen

[Cheri_G]

DCF should have acted as soon as it was written on the page of the affidavit. Any children in direct contact with these men should be removed and interviewed immediately, imo.

I have to get ready for work and get out of here! Keep us posted!

Its quite possible they were notified by LE and did become immediately active.

I couldn't tell by the conversation I had with the guy who took my call and I didn't ask the question. Just gave him my name, number, and address, told him what I'd read and how he could find it to read himself, and what my conerns are.

I don't know what the standard procedure is in these cases. Odds are DCF was probably already notified by LE and knew about this before talking to me, but for my own peace of mind I'm glad I made the call.

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome to WS, Joga! My jaw has been dragging on the floor for since Sunday. When I think it can't get worse, it does. We all hope for her safe return. Bless her little heart!

[SuziQ]

Welcome to Joga and everyone new.

[SeriouslySearching]

I would assume thats him, and one of those myspace profiles i definetely remember seeing, said something like Cullman, Egypt???

AllenYes, I noticed that myself...but didn't have time to go back to check it. Good catch, Allen!

[SeriouslySearching]

Its quite possible they were notified by LE and did become immediately active.

I couldn't tell by the conversation I had with the guy who took my call and I didn't ask the question. Just gave him my name, number, and address, told him what I'd read and how he could find it to read himself, and what my conerns are.

I don't know what the standard procedure is in these cases. Odds are DCF was probably already notified by LE and knew about this before talking to me, but for my own peace of mind I'm glad I made the call.I am glad you did, too. People need to make sure DCF does their job in every state. Their record here is lousy.

[SuziQ]

Presser in 1hr 10 mins.

[evelyn24]

Thanks Suzi!

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome, Athy. Wow. I don't know what to say to that story. While it is hearsay, I think it should have been reported even if you are an ex. You say he was working in the church which means he still has access to children and trusting families. To me, this is a nightmare scenario. If you know where he is...I would still report it. The church needs to be aware of his past history and his wife...well...I could say a lot about her and what I think needs to happen along with him.

[athy]

Welcome, Athy. Wow. I don't know what to say to that story. While it is hearsay, I think it should have been reported even if you are an ex. You say he was working in the church which means he still has access to children and trusting families. To me, this is a nightmare scenario. If you know where he is...I would still report it. The church needs to be aware of his past history and his wife...well...I could say a lot about her and what I think needs to happen along with him.

i stopped talking with her and know they moved soon afterwards but not where to. but i do still think about it because a part of me keeps wondering if because i didn't report it did anything happen to another child. i have looked him up on the RSO and found him listed in a few states, he never stays in one place for long.

[SeriouslySearching]

Presser in 1hr 10 mins.I have one hand grasping firmly on my mouse and the other on the front door jamb trying to pry myself away to go to work! :smiliescale:

[jnodrog]

heres the link to the myspace page that is Cullman, Egypt
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=358797754

Allen

[SeriouslySearching]

i stopped talking with her and know they moved soon afterwards but not where to. but i do still think about it because a part of me keeps wondering if because i didn't report it did anything happen to another child. i have looked him up on the RSO and found him listed in a few states, he never stays in one place for long.Obviously, it did happen to others and will continue. I am sorry...not trying to make you feel worse guilt here...but it is the truth. Pedos don't stop behaviors and by our silence...we are giving them free reign to keep molesting. People need to realize how important it is to always err on the side of the children in such cases and not worry about the ramifications against ourselves or the adults in the situation. It is one thing to suspect, but quite another if you are being told by one of the adults directly involved.

Do you know the church? Maybe contacting their central board would at least let them get the word out to other churches under their umbrella to be forewarned about this perv.

[Amster]

So....Cassandra has been married how many times and has how many kids?

Savannah is 17 and her last name is Andress. I think she has a brother....no idea if Cassandra was married to Mr. Andress.

Brooke Bennett.....poster this morning said Cassandra and Jim weren't married.

Ray Gagnon....she divorced him. Did they have any kids together?

[SeriouslySearching]

I am not exactly clear on how many kids Cassandra has either.

[SuziQ]

I have one hand grasping firmly on my mouse and the other on the front door jamb trying to pry myself away to go to work! :smiliescale:

There is alot I'm not getting done today. I think I'm ordering pizza tonight.

[Amster]

Janet Bennett on FOX!

[SeriouslySearching]

Good job, Amster! Thanks!

She seems so sensible and sweet. She said she has been in her life since she was 16 mos. old.

So with Jim never married to Cassandra...sounds like he distanced himself quickly after she either became pregnant/had Brooke and took up with Janet. So Jim has been a weekend type father since then.

[Amster]

Good job, Amster! Thanks!

She seems so sensible and sweet. She said she has been in her life since she was 16 mos. old.

Huh?? Never had an inkling of anything wrong?? How about the perv uncle?? Shep asked her if thinking back, was there anything to give a clue?? She said nope, nothing.

Maybe she was just talking about Brooke showing signs of something being wrong....

[athy]

Obviously, it did happen to others and will continue. I am sorry...not trying to make you feel worse guilt here...but it is the truth. Pedos don't stop behaviors and by our silence...we are giving them free reign to keep molesting. People need to realize how important it is to always err on the side of the children in such cases and not worry about the ramifications against ourselves or the adults in the situation. It is one thing to suspect, but quite another if you are being told by one of the adults directly involved.

Do you know the church? Maybe contacting their central board would at least let them get the word out to other churches under their umbrella to be forewarned about this perv.

no i don't know what church. perhaps if i had been a bit less frustrated that she kept ignoring my advice to turn him in i would/should have paid more attention. i just couldn't figure out how someone could be that stupid..she had the info right in her hands and could have done something about it. i know if it were me i would have without a doubt. only reason i didn't was because i had no proof other than her words really.

my daughter was molested when she was five it was one of my ex hubby's best friends i turned his butt in asap as soon as i found out. i basically caught him in the act. i uumm locked him in the bathroom and called LE and told them what i saw. he was arrested immediately.

[SeriouslySearching]

Huh?? Never had an inkling of anything wrong?? How about the perv uncle?? Shep asked her if thinking back, was there anything to give a clue?? She said nope, nothing.

Maybe she was just talking about Brooke showing signs of something being wrong....Janet is the step-mother (Jim's wife). She was talking about exactly that...Brooke didn't talk to them about it nor did she show the normal signs of being abused when she was at their house. They didn't have anything to do with Cassandra in the sense of being able to tell if something was going on with Uncle Creepy or the Step-father.

I should say at this point, we do not know that Brooke was ever sexually abused either. This is about other female members of her family and not about Brooke when talking about the sexual abuse involved so far. Brooke could have been told by one her cousins finally and why she is missing. We just have no way to know this.

[swanniee11]

I am not exactly clear on how many kids Cassandra has either.

I thought I read there was a brother who is younger than Brooke?

[SeriouslySearching]

no i don't know what church. perhaps if i had been a bit less frustrated that she kept ignoring my advice to turn him in i would/should have paid more attention. i just couldn't figure out how someone could be that stupid..she had the info right in her hands and could have done something about it. i know if it were me i would have without a doubt. only reason i didn't was because i had no proof other than her words really.

my daughter was molested when she was five it was one of my ex hubby's best friends i turned his butt in asap as soon as i found out. i basically caught him in the act. i uumm locked him in the bathroom and called LE and told them what i saw. he was arrested immediately.You certainly did the right thing there. I am so sorry about your daughter tho. :(

[christine2448]

Continue here please. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2341639#post2341639)